MEMBRANE AND BATTENS ARE ON! 🔨 Complete DIY Roof Restoration

So good to have the house wrapped and weatherproof before the end of the good weather! Today's episode was a collaboration with Proctor's Roofshield membrane and hopefully gives a good overview of what was involved in the process. With so much time, effort and money going in to the slates, joinery and gutters it was worth getting this stage done right. My main concern with any building make up is moisture and the risks of condensation, this was the main reason for deciding on Roofshield and it is also so well suited to a loft conversion/room in roof type setup.
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[@SirShoX0r]

Good to see the sponsorship coming, you've earned it

[@proctorgroup]

Great work Tim and was awesome working with you on this! We love watching projects coming together, especially ones as well documented as yours.

[@engr810]

BBC level animation with great detailing. I love his presentation detailing and passion about work. many thanks ... keep posting ...

[@andyb3331]

Good job, I would say though measure up / gauge from both gables then fire a chalk line between, every batten will be straight as a dye and by measuring up from the eaves you can shut down or slightly increase your gauge so you don`t end up with a poxy sized cut at the ridge.

[@yoyosgymandstrongmancentre3000]

Chalk line agree

[@jobie3015]

Love the colour scheme of the green roofshield, blue batons, and purple scaffolding netting. Really pretty. I bet the kids loved it.

[@PeowPeowPeowLasers]

Creating a template using a long bit of wood is a good idea, thanks for that. I'm doing my roof soon and I intend to copy the original layout (it's a mid terrace with a continuous roof) and I was worried about batten spacing, but I'll just get a long bit of wood and mark off where each batten is in relation to the top and bottom, and that should keep me safe.

[@Joe74854]

I use that on my new roof installations never had any problem not introducing any further ventilation brilliant membrane but very expensive

[@leehensey]

I am a professional roofer and have to say well done for this, there are some picks for me but not going to say as on the whole and DIY great job

[@unknown6192]

Definitely different to me, 20 year roofer in Southern California. We are used to having plywood on the deck. Not criticizing you just not used to seeing this, I understand installations are different all over the world. Thank for the video

[@pauls6085]

I commented on your previos video. I'm a roofer of nearly 40 years. Be aware that breathable membrane lets water in if left exposed for a lengthy period. Not having a go just letting you know. Keep up the good work

[@TheRestorationCouple]

I’m going as quick as I can! 😀 Hopefully only be a couple of weeks and seems to be ‘beading’ off well still. 👍

[@pauls6085]

@@TheRestorationCouple well done mate you'll be fine. Hope weathers on your side😁

[@JackHxnter]

Could leave roofshield out in the elements for months and defo no water ingress would occur

[@kermitefrog64]

Nice work. I was surprised that OSB or plywood was not put down first but it works out. There is a lot more rain in the U.K. generally than California with exception of this year where we have been drowning.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Brilliant work Tim, really enjoying this series

[@kaielisha3485]

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[@zaydmalcolm6176]

@Kai Elisha Instablaster :)

[@kaielisha3485]

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[@kaielisha3485]

@Zayd Malcolm It worked and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thanks so much you saved my account!

[@zaydmalcolm6176]

@Kai Elisha no problem :D

[@francescodobherman3487]

Put a batton along the side of the valley boards so you have extra nailing space for your valley cuts👍

[@pankajmakwana2300]

Thank you for the video, really inspired me to complete my roof repairs have some torn felt, and was looking at the better solution on type of membrane before i came across your workmanship. Excellent, please keep it up.

[@magill4046]

Herculean effort mate, not just on the roof but the production of the video. Loved the cg animation explanation & the capture of the sunset. (Not to mention all the grafting!) With a young family & a day job, I seriously don’t know how you find the time or the energy. Inspirational

[@millsbrian55]

Thank goodness for cordless tools!

[@brynnhowell9916]

Brilliant - I’ve watched loads of your videos......this takes DIY to a new level....you’ve definitely got ‘balls’

[@robkettle1971]

Has always great video, I'm trying to gain enough courage to replace my 20-year-old st Helens glass polycarbonate roof on my conservatory, watching your videos give me inspiration, i wish we could be so confident with the great English weather, I found it interesting how the membrane vents moisture .

[@T8RTU]

Lots of great points made throughout that will be useful to many of us. Brilliant animation....still going well with the weather too. 👍

[@Jason52597]

Don't know how much I trust the roof shield, seems too good to be true

[@GamingHorizonYT]

Reason it’s $100 plus a roll

[@davidcoleman6032]

I really admire your work there Tim,especially doing it solo aswell as producing the video!I re-roofed our house 8 years ago so I appreciate the task in hand,not to be underestimated!Great work!👍

[@athloneduke]

Enjoyed the format of time lapse and voice over. It’s an cracking job you’ve done, glad to see sponsors, helps with the outlay.

[@victoriawhite9215]

This is amazing! I don't know whether to be more impressed that you have done this roof by yourself or that the British weather held off long enough for you to get it watertight again in September! This series is really interesting, and I can't wait to get caught up and see the final result. 🙂

[@marcusregan4815]

Nice, clean work on a massive job, and very well explained.

[@tomasmorrissey7324]

Loving the colour of both beats the cream colour on felt

[@lijpowww]

Loved the animation fade to real life scenario.

[@thamesgutterlondon1074]

The felt needs to be hanging into the guttering Maybe take the bottom batten off & use an eve's tray underneath the felt at the bottom so as to prevent leaking into the house

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Eves trays still to go in which will be under the loose membrane at the bottom. 👍

[@thamesgutterlondon1074]

Yeah sorry I commented before I'd watched all of it 🤭 it looks great 👍

[@craigkearney8883]

Eaves trays are cheap crap nowadays they'll be twisted and warped first warm day. On slates we like to use the trusty old 5u felt as the trays cause kickers when they are overlapped

[@yuzhao-tc3eq]

Excellent job, Tim. Excellent 3D video explanation. Can I show this 3D video to my clients? It's very useful.

[@kallekaliff4475]

I would recommend counter batons running vertically up the roof under the batons the the normal horizontal baton nailed to them as this allows air flow stopping condensation from forming and rotting the batons

[@Joe74854]

Think with proctor roofshield being the best membrane out there you don’t even need any further ventilation not even from soffits it the ultimate membrane and cost a fortune

[@martinbyrne6643]

That’s hard physical work ‘ and the constant threat of rain make it a pressure job

[@kielarmour9884]

As a roofer for 20+ years so far so good. Seen worse from people who think they no what they doing

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Good to hear. 👍

[@paulwilliams4575]

Great work. Inspiration to watch.

[@fredscott6022]

Works fantastic, would recommend. Good value

[@teatimetraveller]

i always thought you had to counter batten to avoid moisture build up on the horizontal battens

[@crouchingtiger5431]

U do if a warm roof however roofshield is breathable felt

[@colinlaybourn354]

Been waiting for this to drop!!!! 😁😁😁😁

[@Trent_Uk]

we use breather membrane as standard nowadays the only time we use traditional felt is if it's specified by the bat conservation people

[@jacksmith4375]

Same here bud

[@insaneseinn]

Absolutely smashed it Tim! Brilliant work, had to replace couple slates over the weekend.. Mine need doing sometime in the near future.

[@gregorymcd944]

Great episode! Making great progress and teaching me something along the way!

[@ratchriat1716]

fantastic work Tim

[@1986rikki]

i cant wait to see the finished roof, good job my man.

[@kevinbutchart7187]

Done a great job so far...good-luck with the rest of it...British weather is so bloody unpredictable though..lol

[@peterwooldridge7285]

Looking good ....nice drone photography

[@footballmangerchampion2023]

Ive never done roofing in my life my mate has got me work tomorrow with his boss i lied..doing some felt and batton haven't got a clue what to do wish me luck lol..i need the 80 pounds a day so ive lied and im hoping i pick it up quickly

[@pinkeye00]

Here's a thought. By standing on your battons (sp?) are you causing sheer that might make it out of whack?

[@Ragnar8504]

What they'll do in central Europe to maintain that 50 mm spacing between the insulation and tiles is nail down 50 mm battens parallel to the rafters on top of the membrane or felt. The downside is that it raises the roof by those 50 mm, usually more because they typically sheath the whole thing with 19 or 24 mm boards before putting on the felt.

[@dannymurphy1779]

That can be a problem with planning here!

[@master_Blaster91]

Counter lat

[@allroofingsolutions2275]

You should take your 1st course batten size with fascia fitted, or take into consideration it will be sitting higher than the rafter, not doing this can give you too much overhang into gutter. Doing a good job 👍

[@johnfithian-franks8276]

Hi, what is it with blue batons? is it that they have been dipped in some sort of protection or is it just stain. You did very well getting all those tiles off and then getting the roof watertight, I can hardly wait to see the finished roof in all its glory with the soffits, paint job and gutters all done. Good luck and stay safe.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

I believe it is just I identify them as the graded roofing battens rather than any additional treatment. It’s just a light spray paint that’s added.

[@jamesdyas542]

I had a pack of ‘graded’ roofing lath the other day. Opened it and one of them fell in two where there was a dead knot. Yeah right. Excellent videos thanks.

[@SoulThrasher]

thanks for the videos ;) I know it is an old video, but why would you use a 15-20year lifecycle and warranty membrane product under a roof with 100 years lifespan?

[@MrJohnnynapalm7]

Great informative video, Tim 👍

[@tariqwaseem_]

Excellent job.. 👍

[@aadamskii]

Brilliant video, great working with you and you’ve done a smashing job 👌🏻

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Thanks for all your help Adam! 👍

[@yoyosgymandstrongmancentre3000]

Great Chanel well done very informative

[@dannymurphy1779]

Thanks - looks a great product potentially. Perhaps you could do a Q&A in a future video??? My questions 1) is it approved by Building Control??? Does it come with any sort of guarantee??? Also do you have to use a felt support tray at the bottom on account of the sunlight damaging roofing felts??? Cheers.

[@craigmorris3941]

If you had made your batten spacer to hook onto the bottom of the batten then the spacing would be accurate from one bottom of a batten to another, even if the battens were different sizes. Looks great though.

[@jarnailsingh9447]

Very nice thanks.

[@graveurgraveur2691]

For some reason I think you should wear a security harness.

[@shavenhaven6869]

Proctor roof shield is the best by miles ..

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Good to hear, definitely feels stronger than any other membranes I’ve used in the past. 👍

[@marko4524]

@@TheRestorationCouple no permo air is better

[@JL-hn6hi]

It looks fabulous!

[@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb]

How do you control moisture inside the heated airspace? You've used rigid foam insulation, and presumably it's quite air-tight, so has little vapor transferance thru to the ventilated attic space. Do you have an ERV or something?

[@m0nk3yl0v3r]

Watched your videos for years... how the hell do you know all this stuff..!?

[@iainmacinnes1660]

Looking good. Well done 👍

[@sundayboss3062]

Just surprised you're are not using a harness to hold you back from a fall especially when working alone.

[@pahooper99]

What a great job. I don’t suppose that the roof shield membrane is compliant for bats 🦇???

[@Rogerdodger-z7x]

No you gotta use traditional bitumen felt in bat areas the new membrane apparently the bats can get tangled in and died or something..

[@davidbanner9001]

Insulation and airflow in old houses can be a real pain. I have an old 1958 chalet bungalow which needs PIR insulation. The problem as stated in this video is I only have 70mm of space between the rafters allowing the 50mm gap for airflow. The membrane used here is great, but obviously you would need to strip the entire roof. Apart from extending the the depth of the rafters internally, which then takes up living space, is there another alternative?

[@emmaslow]

You can fix the membrane internally - you 'loop' the membrane over the face of the rafters, and then fix it up on the side of the rafter using a batten along the rafter, with the top of the batten set to ensure your 50mm airflow gap. Pretty hard to explain in words but you essentially make 'hammocks' between each rafter (pulled taut, fixed in place with the battens. This then allows you to fill between the rafters with PIR (20mm in your example), and then you would want to board across the rafters with insulated plaster boards (or woodfibre boards and then plasterboard if you had enough room). If you really don't have any room to go perpendicular across the rafters with anything much more than plasterboard then have a look at the multifoil insulations - I did my parents' 1950s chalet bungalow bedrooms like this but if I'm honest I'm not totally convinced it is performing well. Hope some of this helps.

[@davidbanner9001]

Thank you very much for the advise. It's much appreciated.

[@ash-n2g]

@@emmaslow if water gets behind the tile, might it start to wet the rafter, and rot the rafter? - if it's done in the manner you suggest?

[@simbrk6458]

Nice work mate but that 1 purple slate is doing my head in.

[@fionntainmacb]

Thanks so much for the video, i never knew there was a difference between air permeable membrance and breathing membrane, is it correct to say that the former allows more air through than the latter ?

[@frank1847]

Crikey Tim! You have been lucky with the weather of late. I emptied a large bucket in my garden been there about a month there must have been a foot of water in there!. It seems to have rained here non-stop, well almost for over a month. Nice job by the way. Not having a go, but those battens were poor quality, best to pay a bit more. Good luck with the rest of the roof.

[@davidfox5878]

Like it a lot, except the oversell of the Roofshield product - you can't compromise on the 50mm gap (at least, not where I live because Building Control enforce it . . . )

[@coops6621]

I’ve been converting lofts for years and never found ‘breathable’ membranes to vent warm air moisture sufficiently on their own whatever manufacturers say they’ve achieved in tests. Don’t know how this product differs but I’d personally go belt and braces and add eaves and ridge ventilation while it’s still easy to do

[@craigkearney8883]

Standard breather is only vapour permeable roofshield is air permeable

[@philbotherobot]

Agree , used this on a couple of jobs ... still get beads of condensation. Got to add additional ventilation

[@jimbolger264]

Does the roof not need to be counter battened to add eves and ridge ventilation, I've ran into trouble before with condensation with breathable felt solitex , it's a mínefield when it comes to insulation, you can never be too careful

[@coops6621]

@@jimbolger264 the vent gap is between back of insulation between rafters and the underside of the roof felt

[@jimbolger264]

@@coops6621 I understand that you keep the insulation away from the breathable membrane and batten it doesn't touch it, but condensation can still form on the membrane and get trapped behind the batten, if your roof is counter battened it has a clear run off to the eves plus you have more air circulation and it doesn't sweat, it's like wearing a coat that is not breathable your body will create heat and you will start to sweat if the heat cannot get out it will turn to moisture and you become wet. The tiles or slates are not breathable that's where the problem is the hot air can get out till it reaches them and then it condensates back onto the membrane, maybe I'm completely wrong.

[@TheMorsey123]

you were right that the felt wants to have a slight sag between rafters but wrong in installing it with the sag. you want to install tight and it will naturally sag slightly when it settles. other than that looks good

[@clivewilliams1406]

SPROCKETS!!?? These should have been fitted before the sarking but can still be placed with your loose eaves. The depth of the sprocket should be = depth of the batten + 3x the thickness of the slate. this is all to guarantee that the water on the sarking is properly guided into the gutter. Relying on only the fascia board will cause a depression in the sarking behind the fascia board that will allow water to permeate down the back of the fascia board, especially with the pereable sarking. Did you consider multi-layer insulation like TriIso 10 that with 2 layers and a limited amount of board insulation provide tghe highest insulation values with minimal rafter depth? Multi-foils are over priced in UK but can be purchase at around £6.00/sqm from various on-line sources and at this price they are very competitive with other insulations that are slower to lay. The multifoil does away with the ventilated sarking and provides a warm roof that is so much better than a cold roof with the insulation at ceiling joist level. Check out the Actis French web site to see how the product is used to very great effect in roof insulation and sarking. It is commonly used in Alpine buildings that defines its pedigree.

[@jesperMOlsen-mn3nx]

I'm surprised that you're not using a timber board as an underlay for the membrane, like the supplier says on their homepage. In the nordics, often times we use a cold-asphalt membrane on top of timber-boards, bc that thin membrane isn't gonna last 100yrs like the previous slate roofing material

[@jacksmith4375]

R u American

[@jacksmith4375]

We don’t do that in England and if u did u would counter batten before battening u need air flow

[@jesperMOlsen-mn3nx]

@@jacksmith4375 No I live in Norway, why do you ask?

[@jesperMOlsen-mn3nx]

@@jacksmith4375 I know how it’s done, bc I’m a carpenter, and I’ve worked on roofs for 13yrs. I’m not criticizing your work, it looks skilled. I was just wondering, also about not using batterns above the membrane so the wood isn’t in contact with the moisture the membrane is collecting Thank you for replying 😊

[@grantcook5376]

Hi , please tell me your going to do work on the chimneys , new flashings , repointing etc ideal time while the battens are on. Even a coat of storm dry cream will help the brick work although expensive brilliant stuff.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Yes all the brick and stone works is being raked out and repointed, with all the lead replaced too. My list isn’t getting shorter! 😔

[@pdbennett69]

Hi Tim, I presume this all needed building regs approval? When did building control come and inspect? At which points?

[@francescodobherman3487]

If your phelt isnt tightish it could flap in high winds roll it out tec it 1 end then nail it out your doing this by yourself very impressive

[@martinsutherland4270]

Not supposed to be tight it’s supposed to sag a little to let moisture drain, or use counter battons

[@francescodobherman3487]

@@martinsutherland4270 tight,,,,ish not to saggy not to tight

[@martinsutherland4270]

@@francescodobherman3487 Sag a little A “ little” being the key word

[@steindebooy8834]

U have cut ends on your batton which will result in quicker decay time

[@redsresearch]

boards arent treated anyway

[@hypnotherapist4058]

Should the cut ends of the Baton be primed.

[@NICKDEVILS420]

I am having some trouble with the batten and wondering if someone can help. The roofer has advised 20 blanks 4x4.8m when i went to the supplier he advised that they do in meters that is 192, my roof is a pitched roof, is this correct as it doesnt seem right, doesnt help the roofer themselves didnt make it clearer and is currently abroad so his work number only puts a out of office.

[@petemoring67]

Great Job - Great EFFORT!! :-)

[@trevordante8787]

How did you learn all these skills? Any books you could recommend?

[@georgerobinson9110]

Hi Tim, What size nails did you use for fixing your battens to the rafter? 63mm or 75mm? Thanks

[@-_James_-]

I realise it's a bit late now, but wouldn't it have been better to install vertical battens first and then run the horizontal ones over the top? That's how I've seen people doing it around here. That would provide full clearance for any water to run off and improve the ventilation over the whole roof.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Yes, counter battens are a good option if you can account for the additional raise in height, lead flashings, fascias, barge boards, etc. That said, all being well there won’t be any water running down it! 🤞

[@-_James_-]

@@TheRestorationCouple Yeah, already having those roof windows in place might have made for some trickiness around them with the extra height. :)

[@janismezulis7436]

all the water flowing from the membrane will soak into the wood planks..

[@Rogerdodger-z7x]

I wouldn’t trust the breathable membrane alone, I’d install fascia vents and dry ridge system just to be safe me Also use 3B eave carrier bitumen felt and UPCV eave carrier trays for a double layer of eave protection it helps protect the rafter feet more and at a cost of £20 for 3B felt and £40 for the trays it’s money well spent it will protect against wind blown rain at the eave Also you can roll the felt down and over the window to weather them just make sure you get it over the ridge and that will weather it until the slates go on yes you can open or see out the window but I’d rather that then a little leak at the top of the window

[@worzelgummidge3617]

100% ive had serious issues with it. Tempted to remove and go back with just battens. I mean its the tiles job to keep the water out

[@TheRestorationCouple]

As good as my scribing is, the new timber soffits will likely give around 10mm all the way along both sides so that will help in addition. 👍

[@francescodobherman3487]

Your a machine fella lol bravo

[@jacksmith4375]

We use roof shield felt on all our main roofs on site it’s good stuff but tyvek is better

[@nes531]

Why not snap a line

[@jamestonks3042]

How do you know how the last tile will finish at the top of the roof ?

[@colingmaccoll]

Love this roof series, why are the battens blue?

[@jaywest4102]

What happened to the couple part of Restoration Couple

[@kayenacur]

Since they now have three kids they need one parent as backup in case the other falls off the roof... (obv that's a joke, don't chew my head off...)

[@twinklekink]

They have two girls and a young baby girl too, what with the lockdown difficulties in England right now I don’t think anyone would be allowed to come and assist with looking after them even if they were able to, so i am sure Jo is with the girls!

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Heights are not Jo’s thing at the best of times. For now though she is super busy being mum and growing her business. She also gets the joy of sourcing and paying for roofing materials!!

[@nigelwood5127]

I am building van mobile home do you now if the manbring look really good keep up good video aaaa

[@isyt1]

Fantastic job! I didn’t quite understand how you got the battens level over the whole length of the roof though?

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Measures up each end the required distance and then pulled a taught string line to get the first one marked up straight. Then everything else is base off that. Is that what you mean?

[@isyt1]

@@TheRestorationCouple That’s it thanks! I thought it’d be more complicated if you assumed the roof might not be square

[@normanpouch]

10mm ?sag. How do they test for holes in the inside for 25 year warranties please?

[@worzelgummidge3617]

Unfortunately that roofshield isn't ad great as you've been told. I've got it on my terraced house of similar age and I've had worse condensation on the roofshield than I did on the old hessian felt. Thats with soffit & ridge ventilation.

[@pamelahowat1762]

Hi Worzel. Please contact me as I work for the technical team at Proctors and your instances are most definitely not common with Roofshield and usually we can find a reason. If you have ventilated the roof at eaves and ridge then this is bypassing the benefits of Roofshield but we would welcome further discussion and to review photos etc of the issues.

[@mattan147]

How long did this take? I’m thinking about attempting one side of our roof rather than pay somebody £3600 to do it.

[@macsmith6216]

Not a criticism Just wondering why no counter battens

[@ollysdiykoipond455]

Only really counter batten on a boarded roof

[@ahti29]

How the ventilation works under the tiles?

[@gpower9572]

You have some great tools, but a cheap stapler would come in handy for the membrane rather than all that hammering.

[@The_Dua]

Smashed it, that is a full days hard graft (the first day) how do you keep your energy up? I did my roof recently and was to knackered to work the next day 😅

[@mitchmix999]

Get some 300mm DPC and use as an eave protection strip. It goes underneath the bottom piece of membrane and will be close to flush with the bottom slate to ensure any water getting through goes into the gutter. There's also plastic and metal systems you can use for this. You don't want any green visible by the bottom slate once done....

[@TheRestorationCouple]

We have a black plastic eaves carrier to go on but yes essentially does the same as the DPC. 👍