Rebuilding Traditional Barge Boards - DIY Dry Verge

I originally set out to use undercloaking and mortar for the verges but the more I looked around the other slate roofs in the area the more I wanted the cleaner and more traditional look of slate on barge boards. This is what I came up with.
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[@garyhollywell2112]

I think this is a massive project and I really do take my hat off to you for taking this on and completing a really high quality outcome. I can imagine costs have been much greater than you anticipated but in reality you will have both saved a fortune and added significant value to your property. I am really looking forward to the workshop build....all DIY people need a Great workshop!! As an Operations Director in the FM world, I really find your work ethic and quality approach refreshing.......well done.

[@jillfrancis8380]

Well done, this is DIY at a new level; literally and figuratively. God bless you.

[@acidlumin]

Nice job. This is why you diy, how do you explain to a roofer that you want tight grain quality redwood, biscuit jointed, bevel detail etc without them thinking you’re crazy or not worth the hassle (or pay big money). That’s why I tend to do things myself in my own time. Thank god for KZbin!

[@ukpipeline]

That’s it in a nutshell...

[@gtimoney1]

Roofer joiner two different trades

[@thejtizzel]

You go to a bench joiners workshop lol. They’ll do you anything you want, you not seen the fancy barge boards.

[@acidlumin]

They will, for a price. Or you could (if you have the ability and tools and desire) do it yourself.

[@nikcrosina]

Amazing you got the time amid all the singing engagements ;)

[@sygad1]

As others have commented, it's this level of detail and preference for a desired finish that makes DIY the only option in most cases, I can't tell you the number of dis-agreements i've had with electricians who always say, "that's not how I would do it....ain't your house mate, do it the way I WANT IT"

[@shandyooo]

“I’d like exposed copper conduit for the electrics in our office please.” Electricians mind blown...his reply, “why don’t you use plastic it’s quick, easy and cheap”.

[@gbshahaq]

Stunning attention to detail as usual. Following you would make a fab Netflix doc

[@kayenacur]

That house is lucky to have you, Tim. I love how you respect the original materials and look of it and take so much care to bring it back to its former glory, while making it comfortable and durable for decades to come.

[@serverstatuscouk]

No roofer would spend the care, attention and detail that you are doing and it looks great.

[@gtimoney1]

A lot of us definitely do

[@tomtht3355]

@@gtimoney1 Yep, if they want to pay, then anything is possible.

[@TheToolnut]

The problem with most homeowners is that they expect a champagne job for cider money, 🙄 🔨 🇮🇪

[@markstevens6002]

Your work, your thought process, is totally giving me the enthusiasm to have a go at my roof 👍

[@michaelward4847]

As a joiner and clerk of works for over 40years I must congratulate you on your standard of work and the actual detailing it looks fantastic, I’m sure it will stand the test of time.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Thanks Michael. 👍

[@seanhands1980]

Tim Tim Tim, all I'd like to say is you make me feel very lazy. I work 38h a week and work restoring my house for roughly 30h on top of that.. You sir are what I call a grafter and I admire it.

[@T8RTU]

Super quality workmanship throughout Tim, this is professional level that could inspire others in the trade to lift their game. Everything has been well planned and executed ✅👍

[@martinbelshaw4050]

I started watching a bloke doing a campervan!!

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Sorry! Still not finished the van. 😂

[@lukemagee462]

@@TheRestorationCouple i started on the stairs and landing vids. couple of years later and he's on the roof having done a van conversion, porch, garage conversion, kitchen and everything in between. god bless you tim, you dont half do a lot mate.

[@stevesawbridge4849]

It was the kitchen renovation for me. Been DIY-ing for best part of forty years and still learning from these vids. Such attention to detail. Top man, Tim.

[@lewispewsey6843]

Been looking forward to this tim👍

[@jps7562]

Awesome job! Keep the videos coming.

[@Shane_O]

This roof has been a great series.... keep up the great work!

[@magill4046]

Really coming together now 👍

[@bertrandducouedic8621]

Congratulations. Really good work done here.

[@coffeefortwosolly]

Loving the progress and craftsmanship! 👏🏻👏🏻🙋🏻‍♀️🇬🇧💕

[@paulthompson5416]

Attention to detail is second to none as per usual 👌🏼

[@PB200559]

Just amazing. Phenominal attebtion to detail and finish. Brilliant work.

[@ColinDH12345]

Good job. Well done Tim.

[@MrJohnnynapalm7]

Looks great, Tim - thanks for sharing 👍

[@famia1070]

Amazing video. Respect you for this extra effort in making this video while Ur trying to complete this huge project at the same time. Very informative video. Thanks very much.

[@boxingday11]

I am in awe of your skills and attention to detail, oh and I'm very jealous of your abilities, thanks for sharing your journey.👍🇬🇧❤️

[@bryanrobertson3068]

Some beautiful work done there and well thought out. Should be good for another 100 years! Thanks for sharing

[@johnrimmer1228]

Great job as always, and as my dad used to say it will see you out... Looking forward to seeing the finished result as I am sure you are. Always nice standing back and thinking I did that. Great work. Stay safe and well.

[@DaddyDee193]

Love your innovation, great workmanship too.. A little love, care and attention to detail goes along way. I'm inspired to do my roof myself!

[@davidcoleman6032]

Fantastic job!Very nice-splicing in the oak rafters, time that's painted it will look superb!

[@spainter1985]

Admire the level of detail and sympathetic approach to reroofing an old property, it looks superb and probably wouldn't be replicated if you got someone in to do it - or it'd certainly cost!

[@Stop..carry-on]

Brilliant job

[@mikedeman5351]

Top quality job. Well done :)

[@garethheathcote4988]

Tim it was a smart move not reinstating the capping boards over the verges like your roof had before as no matter how well you fixed and sealed n painted them they would eventually fail and come off,even if it took ten years it would still have left you needing to get back up there to repair and re-fix a long long time before any of the rest of the new roof would fail. We have been out to fit new ones or simply re-fix sound ones that had blown off probably over a hundred times over the years and once a roof has been set up in that manner it would cost a significant amount of money to latex the verges.ive also had to go out and fix the plastic dry verges that are used on tiled roofs more times than I could count as people seem to be allergic to fitting them correctly. Your making a cracking job of your new roof I'm sure that it will last a couple of lifetimes.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Good to hear. Yes my attempt last year to upvc cap it for a quick fix blew off in a storm within a few months. 🙄 I also think the previous plastic is what had trapped much of the water in on the timbers and made things worse.

[@09conrado]

@@TheRestorationCouple these reaction answered quite a few of my questions. What an excellent find on both the tape and the flexible strip liner! Still wondering how the end slates are held in a storm though

[@TheRestorationCouple]

09conrado nailed and hooked. Im confident wind would never be a problem, it was driving rain which I was more concerned with but seems to be just fine, (having been out there in driving rain this week! 😂)

[@CKDJBOY123]

looks great

[@chrispayne1029]

Great Job Tim 👏👏👌🏻👍

[@bazroyle9316]

Your doing a great job 😀

[@samnichols]

Looks great buddy! Very impressed with your workmanship considering it's not your day job!

[@barrydoherty636]

Great job, well done.

[@davesaxon7348]

Top job, well done.👍🏼

[@AndrewMartinIsHere]

Every time I hear you say ‘biscuits’ my mind drifts.... 🤣

[@hernebaybob]

Beautiful 🤩

[@bryanwatt9751]

Brilliant!

[@vivaldi1236]

Brilliant.

[@andypsunshineisle5655]

I replaced the clay tile roof on my house in 1987 using board and cement verges and you are right to avoid it. It just moves and every year some of it needs clearing and replacing, which can mostly be done off a ladder but I am in my late 60s now and my knees are getting ladder averse. I think the channel seal system you have chosen should see you out as direct sunlight will not affect it. Decent grade wood is not really available forom most

[@johnfithian-franks8276]

Looks great to me

[@johnthresher259]

Amazing workmanship Tim. While I have no intention of doing the stuff you do I find your videos fascinating. If I was 30 years younger maybe! Also where do you get your energy from? You must be as "fit as a butchers dog" as the saying goes. Keep up the good work and keep them videos coming!

[@Midlander]

The roof looks awesome. Loving the mix of modern and traditional tech, will we get an update on how it holds up to the elements?

[@daves4026]

Awesome

[@darz3]

Impressive

[@jodirauth8847]

That roof will out live you forsure

[@rich8037]

You're right to avoid concrete. I'm here looking at what other people do with verges, after discovering that mine is absolutely knackered - all the concrete is loose and cracked and I've pulled most of it out with my fingers. Mine's a boring old brick-built house and I'm putting UPVC fascias on it so I'll probably use plastic dry verge too, but I admire your solution to your problems.

[@mobeenahmed2271]

I rate you for doing your own roof. Next project build a house.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

That's the plan... one day!

[@peterwooldridge7285]

Nice..

[@johnfitzpatrick2406]

Brilliant work! Did you consider priming the whole of the barge boards before fixing them in place?

[@davebayne3327]

fantastic videos you make , in this one you talk about the easy trim for the verges to make the water seal , can you tell me pls where you got that from cheers

[@fumthings]

i seem to remember that so called hardwood or softwood species has little to do the the density or wear of a piece of timber and that amazingly balsa wood is in fact called a hardwood species, so it seems reasonable that the redwood you have is dense and can be hard wearing and long lasting even if its species is "softwood"

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Same with poplar. Like you say, good quality softwood like this or cedar, larch etc can be just as good. Given that most of the 120 year old softwood I removed was just fine, this should be just fine.

[@johnmit]

That level of attention to detail should easily see the rough last another 120 years. And that's a good choice on the verge setup - shame the rubber fins aren't a fraction longer, but rain will be doing well go get past 4 fins in those tiny gaps. I'm not a fan of the mortar method - but that's probably because I almost got hit by a piece that had cracked and got pulled out by a strong cross wind (as once it's cracked even relatively small movement of the roof will see most of your mechanical grip completely gone).

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Ouch! Yea hopefully this route will work well.

[@karl9675]

Nice attention to detail however easy trim also make an easy verge which is specifically designed for finishing the gable. Having longer fins it would have filled those small gaps and comes in longer lengths.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

I avoided it as the trim is all visible on that product and wanted the traditional look. That is how I found this product though. 👍

[@karl9675]

@@TheRestorationCouple I completely understand. What you would have need to do is route 50% or more of the thickness of the the barge board away from the portion that extended above the last rafter. This would have allowed you to install the correct verg, which also caps the end of the batten protecting against wind driven rain causing rot via the cut and exposed end gains. This would have given your gable the look you wanted and a more waterproof finish. Also extremely important that the fins are "pushed" out against the flow of water.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

I had imagined there would be a way however my requests for samples were never sent out so couldn’t picture how it would work without it in person. Hence why I got the flat strip. That said, with the decent slate overhang I’m hoping it’s fine as is.

[@chriscardwell3495]

Wonderful job - a cabinet maker does roofing woodwork - what ever next? :-)

[@maggiesue4825]

Will last 150 years!!

[@johncoppock3823]

Really elegant results. Dry verge units would be abombinal, and you have avoided mortar. Think about how you are going to paint them, ladder access etc. for the long term.

[@shandyooo]

Glad you mentioned anthracite grey plastic. In 10 years there’s going to be a lot of terrible looking washed out grey houses. Have you seen the Welsh Millennium Centre in Cardiff? Looks as good as it did when they first opened it.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Too true. The colour of some anthracite grey upvc trim I have when I moved a cover strip was so much darker after just a year of sunlight.

[@slylee4864]

👍👍

[@CWillC1972]

Nice work, and great detail explained. You said you were using "redwood", but I didn't recognize that. Is that a different species from California redwood?

[@pauldade7412]

Where did you get the easy trim / easy slate roll and the double sided sticky tape ?

[@handle1196]

Question. Would you use the verge rubber strip with a upvc barge board still, or is there no need then? Does it not kick the slates up on the ends? Is the butyl tape part of the rubber strip or only required if fixing to timber? Overall amazing work, keep it going.

[@handle1196]

I'd have liked an answer to this too for my future roof

[@gabrielcampbell4657]

do you have a link to the easy slate roll? i can only find strips to buy

[@barringtonsmythe3464]

Class act. Looks superb. Was there any reason for not joining the boards with a biscuit joint or similar

[@TheRestorationCouple]

They were?

[@barringtonsmythe3464]

@@TheRestorationCouple sorry I must have had the volume down 🙄

[@handle1196]

Tim, Where was the easy verge 3m strips from, I seen a company called permavent do a similar product but not the 3m strips.

[@StefanR33]

Bill burr, in another life

[@gw9265]

Where did you get the tight grain redwood from? Is Valley good for that? Thanks

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Robbins in Bristol for the barge boards. Some of the redwood for soffits was just from local builders merchants.

[@zilvinostogai27]

how will water run through the membrane so installed??????

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Not sure what you mean? No water should ever really get passed the slates.

[@lbh002]

If you can...

[@mikeadamson6696]

What primer will you be using to coat the barge board/fascia

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Linseed pint thinned with natural turpentine and linseed oil for first coat. Video to follow.

[@vicinglis3736]

Hi any info on the interesting scaffold hoist, hire or purchase any details appreciated.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

I did an overview in an earlier video but will do a full episode soon now I've used it for a while.

[@rossmale8715]

The scaffold hoist you can buy from Screwfix or Toolstation mate. I bought the hoist and the bracket for the scaffold for less than £200 just Google it

[@quintdewit4870]

I just have a question why did you take down the asbestos vid from the garage I was trying to find it but i can't

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Just felt people may use it for advice rather than just me sharing my experience doing it so thought I’d take it down. Didn’t want people to think it was a how to. 👍

[@paulswebba]

By slating up vertically at that verge have you only one nail in the slate.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Hooked. 👍

[@timsaxon8944]

Hey Tim! Love your channel and have been a long time subscriber. Just interest to know if it's possible for KZbinrs to use affiliate links other than Amazon. Appreciate Amazon probably the most sophisticated but it would be great if you could partner up with a UK based tool company if they could offer you similar terms. Just conscious as I'm sure you are that Amazon is quite a harmful company to lots of businesses and people's shopping habits. Be interested to know your thoughts? I'm part of the industry but just fearful of Amazon's global takeover 👍. Keep up the great work!

[@garethheathcote4988]

Yay 2867th .

[@rsg666]

Should have cut the angle off every edge slate to encourage the rainwater to run in towards the roof mate. Also would definitely have fit a dry verge system to keep everything tight especially when the high winds come.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Did see a few examples around here that were cut like you say but most left square. Having seen it throughout heavy and driving rain, I was pleased to see very little tracking under at all even in the worst of it. With the verge slates hooked and nailed they are going no where. 👍

[@rsg666]

@@TheRestorationCouple it wasn't criticism mate , it was only advice, I'm a roofer of 33 years experience up here in the west of Scotland and we get horrendous weather. We dont use the baton system up here, we nail directly on the sarkin boards..But hey , everyone has their own ways. Take care mate 👍

[@danielohara5749]

@@rsg666 You were polite and informative it so refreshing to see youtube used this wat. Good on you.

[@rsg666]

@@danielohara5749 cheers mate 👍

[@agt155]

I'm no expert but I thought the main purpose of the verge was to secure the exposed edge of the slates.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

They’re hooked. 👍

[@gdfggggg]

Epdm over the whole lot mate, bish bash bosh. Tea up.

[@TheRestorationCouple]

😂

[@harrrycowell7201]

Traditional ,glue

[@jla3772]

I notice you Brits often use handsaws; why do you use handsaws as opposed to cordless power tools?

[@taffytop]

As a roofer you really should of used undercloack on the verge and you never slate in a vertical motion always at 45°

[@superseven220]

He might not have slated at 45° and taken longer because of that but he's saved himself thousands and done a good job that will last for decades

[@TheRestorationCouple]

Yes, all slated at an angle on the back and most of the front but came up straight to give me access up and down the verge. Obviously it wouldn’t be possible without hooks.

[@jlewis1688]

@@TheRestorationCouple taffytop you are bang on mate well said !!!

[@ChelseaPensioner-DJW]

Next job. Get stray nose hairs trimmed. 😆

[@TheRestorationCouple]

😂 that low winter sun!!

[@ChelseaPensioner-DJW]

@@TheRestorationCouple 😂