All About Emotional/Partial Amnesia

[@HelloEmmaClare]

I do actually see a lot of my headmates memories from a third-person perspective, like looking down at my body from the outside while they are controlling it. Does anyone else experience this?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yup! We went to a system meet up a couple weeks ago and multiple other systems said they experienced things like this :)

[@catnatgamble]

yup! pretty much all our memories are 3rd person and if it’s someone else’s memory (from when they were fully fronting) then i (host) can access the memories but not clearly and i don’t feel anything connected to the memory

[@PhoenixAusten]

Every memory I try to remember is from third person. Mostly I'm looking at the back of my head when I do this but sometimes I'm kinda across the room. I'm kinda guessing I could have a dissociative disorder, like I can relate to a lot of the symptoms. And looking back I see a whole lot things that I did that hint at types of abuse and trauma that I never thought I could have. So, I really need to find a new therapist.

[@nostxlgia.mp4185]

I do all the time, or that I’m watching next to them controlling.

[@s.c218]

i thought it was normal to see ur memories as like looking at the memory like a movie..

[@littl_late]

I totally relate but I thought everyone is like this. It's so confusing.

[@thunder956]

Niria Starr yeah me too! is everyone not like this?? i agree this is confusing. 💟but it makes sense at the same time

[@thedestroyasystem]

@@thunder956 Same!!! especially the seeing yourself through a third person lens part. im trying to figure out if i have osdd or some other disorder, and the rings systems videos have helped a lot

[@neonbeams5923]

Just realised I've experienced this my whole life...

[@thepatchworksystem2467]

This was a wonderful topic, and you explained things so well. I think it's important to talk about the type of amnesia that OSDD-1B systems can experience. Because while we do not experience the complete blackout amnesia, there is still the emotional disconnect. And yes, forgetfulness definitely happens a lot too! - Rey

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!! Yes! I see very few people talk about this and it’s very important in my opinion

[@totalcontrol4205]

I can give an example of all of this. I have been diagnosed with DID but probably have not had more than three blackouts in my life. I do have a lot of forgetting though. My counsellor wanted me to get an assessment by a psychiatrist. I found one who specializes in trauma and DID but he was in another state. I made an appointment, I got on a plane, did my interview, joined a healthfund, agreed to go into hospital in a few months, found a gp who deals with this issue, and a psychiatrist close by. All in the last month and a half. I remember it all as a dream because one of my others was doing it all. She wanted all of this. Last Wednesday, I was verbally abused. She disappeared, left me dealing with things. I have no interest in seeing the shrinks or going to hospital and as for the counsellor we do see, once a week, yesterday, I feel or experience it like about two months between sessions and I'm not really that close to her. A lot of what happens is what I call flavouring. There's a constant surface 'I' but others flow in and out, so it's I+, but if the stress and anxiety gets bad, there's less I and increasingly more +. My life is spent mostly double-checking whether what I experienced really did happen or if was a dream or daydream.

[@dawnkitchen5909]

I've tried to explain this to my therapist so many times. When I first heard about emotional amnesia it just clicked. Thank you for going more in depth with this.

[@treybledsoe7640]

This helps a lot, I believe I have OSDD-1b, but I’m still getting the hang of things and at first I thought it was weird that I could still remember things but the emotions felt more like someone was telling me that I felt (or should feel) them not like I was feeling them, this clears a lot of things up!

[@TheRingsSystem]

I'm glad it was helpful! ❤️

[@scaldu4225]

I can really relate to that and now I feel a even bigger need to get into therapy asap...

[@TheRingsSystem]

Good luck!! I hope you find a good therapist!

[@iliveonatropicalisland6086]

So is it like watching a movie in a VR headset?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Kinda!

[@likillith]

Haha kinda

[@asmaadil1842]

Thats how i feel

[@banillabb]

oh my god that’s how i described it earlier today lmao

[@fanpet3912]

I've been using the words 'emotional amnesia' for a while now, and only found out yesterday (thanks to you) that it was an actual name for an actual thing that I experience, and all of a sudden everything makes a lot more sense.

[@xorinoa]

I did not know that there was an actual name for that. Things make so much sense now. Thank you!

[@daseijasystem5566]

You are INSANELY well spoken. I feel SO grateful to have found your channel!!

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!!! ❤️

[@mugendub]

Hi, want to say a thank you for this. I've been finding so much of how you describe the sensations esp of emotional amnesia is exactly what we've been searching for the explanation of. "I" have been in denial for so long, for many reasons, like stigma of "there should only be one mind/memory set in one head" etc. :') Finding your channel & others with dissociative disorders is really helping us accept this & come out of our isolated shells. Thank you

[@TheRingsSystem]

💕💕 good luck on your journey :)

[@Slipping_thru_the_Seams]

"doesn't feel like they're your memories, but they're there anyways" yeah!!! the open book test metaphor is great too. many times a day i need to look through my back catalog of memories to see what i was trying to do lol. i used to think it was just ADHD but i CAN remember so that's a clue i guess. i think with ADHD it more often just gets wiped.

[@jewelbox8167]

Found this 3 years later. It’s genuinely so nice to hear someone who has the same experience as you especially when dealing with self gaslighting. Thank you :) - Kenneth

[@doktorryeen5124]

to a T, this is EXACTLY what I experience when I don't identify with something I did. I don't think I'm a system (either that's true or I'm in major denial) but either way I experience this emotional amnesia thing very often. thank you so much for this video. I thought I was just crazy or not remembering things on purpose because it feels like certain memories are on the tip of my tongue but I just can't reach them. i thought "partial amnesia" was just having blackouts sometimes but not at other times (as opposed to "full amnesia" being blackouts all the time). I'm more informed now. again, thank you so much

[@Drmorganaurora]

Great content, as usual, Silver. Very well explained.

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thanks!! ❤️

[@AstralArbourSys]

This is exactly what we experience. Also, I know what my alters were doing, but I don't know exactly what they did. For example, yesterday Kai was playing Minecraft with a friend of ours. I know that without being told. I sort of remember it. But I don't remember anything that happened or was said, whereas Kai does.

[@rainbowsprinkles4234]

Thank you for making your videos. For a few years, we've been comfortable thinking of ourself as "we dunno, maybe some kind of ego boundary minority no one's catalogued yet? We've learned to be stable and not self-harming, so what more is needed?" ...buuuut we're brought here by need to understand recent experiences, (some details of which are kinda private at the moment) and learning of partial amnesia and OSDD helps us understand that our experiences are totes normal and there are lots of others whom we can relate to and who can relate to us, which defo soothes an "othering" feeling "I" have been in denial of but not our whole self. Using a metaphor wherein a singlet is a bubble and some DID systems might be closed-cell foams, we're an open-cell foam? There are parts of ourself with ego-dystonic feelings for other parts, and less-common-than-we'd-like experiences of coconsciousness, but those clear and sharp emotional boundaries seem to be more the exception than the rule and most experiences aren't so much on one side of them as between gossamer-like threads. Lately, though, it seems our foam might have parts less open than previously thought, so maybe a hybrid foam?

[@TheRingsSystem]

❤️

[@RHxTBK]

This video very strongly helped me tonight actually. Its been kind of something that has recently been more prevalent as of late. Thank you! I appreciate your content a lot. ^^

[@TheRingsSystem]

❤️

[@apsuenbwyfer11]

I only found out I was a system when I was 18 in 2014, but watching this video made me realize I've been struggling with this kind of emotional numbness and trouble with memories for literally as long as I can remember. It feels so good to finally have a way to describe what we've been experiencing, and to be validated like this. Thank y'all so much for these videos, they've been a great help for us.

[@berritandersen288]

This is so validating. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@marleyabbott7203]

thankyou so much for your videos. they have really helped me as i'm having a super confusing time at the moment. hope you're having a better day than i am haha

[@Sieggis]

Thank you. I forget things just like that! I remember when I come out and it's like I have bunch of notes of the things and after a while, just like you put your notes away, if I'm not being careful (and at times even if I am trying!), I will 'just put them somewhere' and forget. A lot. And since we have alzheimer's in our family, I often tend to think that what if it's that. Juuuuust at really early age. But now I can understand myself a little better and this makes a lot more sense! (Tho... can't wait to get older and possibly have them both at the same time :'D)

[@AnnainAwe]

I also thought I had early onset Alzheimer’s in my late 20s and early 30s.

[@aaronace4754]

when i was a little kid i would describe this feeling as me being a camera, my eyes were the camera's lenses and my brain was the memory and storage for all of the information the camera was recording. in hindsight i can understand this is just how my kid brain coped with dissociation and emotional amnesia

[@lindsaybyrne523]

You are very gifted at articulating about dissociative experiences. I really appreciate all that you share with us so we can understand your experience.

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you ❤️💕

[@MooseJ2468]

I have DID I go thru a lot of emotional amnesia and a lot of forgetfulness its getting worse :/ I will be about to do something and look to see its already been done or I will think I have done something when really I haven't. I been losing time like I will look at the clock and realize an hour has gone by and I will have no clue cuz I think its only been 5 minutes. I am usually around enough to know what's going on but sometimes my friends have to fill in the blanks or I will have to ask them to repeat themselves. it feels like a lot of the time im there and im seeing what's happening but I cant control anything or really react I can sometimes regain control but it can take a lot of effort and a lot of arguing...… gotta love when ya fight with your system......all the time..... -_- -the art system

[@asteriavlogs8312]

I just started the video, so nothing really to comment on yet, but THANK YOU!!!! You have captions!!! Real captions!!!!!!! This system with auditory processing problems thanks you so much 😭😭

[@ElenaAideen]

We've described our memories for years and years and years like stories we've overheard other people telling about us to someone else. We've had a C-PTSD diagnosis for many years and are only now coming to realize there is plurality as well.

[@ruherosrue8392]

Thank you so much. I never knew there was a way to explain what I was experiencing and knowing that there is has made me so happy.

[@TheRingsSystem]

💕 I'm glad we could help

[@noa0172]

I really relate to the example with the test. I also describe it to other like this: It’s like when you wake up and right after you’ve woken up you remember everything about the dream and then it quickly slips away and all you have left is a vague feeling about that dream. It might come back at a later stage though.

[@havendidit]

This explains so much. Loving your videos on OSDD. They're so helpful in my current gap between therapists

[@ChristAndChristCrucified]

Great video! We just mentioned emotional amnesia in our latest video, we didn't go into detail about it though, so now I totally want to share your video! You explained it so well, and used really good examples. We love how synchronistic it was that you posted this video close to around the time we just posted ours. Anyways, thanks for educating the public and helping to break the stigma on living with a dissociative identity! 💖💖

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!!! ❤️❤️

[@bwupup]

This is very accurate to our system. Thank you for telling us about this. Very well explained. - Felix

[@Freelance8441]

This is very helpful to us. Thank you!

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you! ❤️

[@TheDarkestShadeOfLight]

HOLY SHIT THERES A NAME FOR IT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS NOW I CAN FINALLY EXPLAIN IT TO MY MOM

[@TheRingsSystem]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I'm glad we could help!

[@blubox2424]

Your videos are always so helpful, Ive felt lost in this whole thing for a while but i feel like im finally starting to get grasp on this. One of the ways Ive been denying it is because I mostly experience partial disassociation, and before now i didnt understand it and felt it didnt counted as dissociative amnesia. Thank you so much!

[@TheRingsSystem]

❤️❤️ Of course! I'm glad they're helpful!

[@lydiaahrens4470]

Your analogy about watching a movie was really helpful. I was just having partial amnesia right now because of playlists! I didn't seem to like any of the host's music, but that's because I was the one fronting, not the host. Time for some musical soundtracks :))

[@ericalavallee4625]

You described me to a tee! I hate when this happens. With my therapist I am getting better at understanding osdd

[@1441musiclover]

Awesome vid Silver! Love hearing from you -Kailyn

[@BurningBlackScarlet]

Thank y'all so so so much for these videos ;_; It helps us so much with figuring things out since we're a very new system (only a week into discovery) and it helps with me (the host) not feel like I'm faking things. These videos mean everything to us. Thank y'all

[@melissagibsonart]

Another very informative video! Thanks for sharing 💜

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you ❤️

[@Orion-fq1oq]

Your explanation is so amazingly good 😭😭 This is exactly how we're going to explain this to others now! We have such similar experiences in this!

[@letterborneVods]

Is it very obvious to you what’s happening? I mean, who the alters are, that there are alters at all ... are the barriers between alters very clear, or is it possible for an OSDD- 1b system to not know they’re a system and only be aware that something weird is going on?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Not always!! It’s honestly a skill to identify alters, who they are, ect. Some alters are easier to notice than others, some alters are easier to communicate with than others, and it can take years to figure out you’re a system in the first place! It always gets easier over time though :)

[@sad_doggo2504]

This is very interesting. Are there certain things that can interfere with memories being communicated from the previously switching alter to the next? If you were in a space where you found it difficult to think (like a social function), is there a "window" you can miss or is it still possible to relay that information much later? I'd imagine this is the case, but most of us are very introverted so it's possible our "minds" just work that way. Or is being introverted a thing that's common with DID and OSDD-1 systems in general!? This has really got me thinking! - Cub (and Zen, I'm sure of it, hahaha)

[@TheRingsSystem]

I think so! We’re introverted too but either very quick switches or situations where you HAVE to deal with something (“oh crap silver accidentally lit the pasta on fire”) normally results in less memory retention :) Plus, you can always just talk to alters via internal communication about memories!

[@thunder956]

Thank you!!!! Words for something ive been experiencing!!! ♥️♥️♥️🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@alexistaylor8417]

Omg I’ve been trying to find words for this forever thank you

[@guiseofyouth]

This is a REALLY valuable video, thank you!

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you! 💕

[@AnnainAwe]

I really appreciate you talking about 0SDD 1b I’m starting to believe this might be an accurate diagnosis for me/us Personally it’s like I get further and further away from an emotionally charged life event. Additionally… I think there’s a facet of me (the closest she would come to having a name is to be called “storyteller”) that can access the majority of our memories and a handful of traumas. However I have observed that storyteller doesn’t know how to do hardly any of the things that she can tell the story about: • Re-thread a four thread Surger sewing machine • Collect garage sale items, disassemble them and/or cut them up, and reassemble them into a prototype • remodeling and new construction, as good or better than a professional. Storyteller can really go into great detail and tell the stories with enthusiasm and keep her audience totally engaged. However, when a disbeliever asked her to demonstrate she didn’t know how. The situation resulted in internal extreme confusion and external embarrassment. I’m sure that person walked away thinking it was a “fish tale”. Later, under different circumstances, a facet of me that knows how to do one these various things will show up and perform the skill as though this work was done on a regular basis or even as a profession. I’m pretty sure this is abnormal.

[@TheRingsSystem]

those do sound like dissociative symptoms, and I'd encourage seeking professional opinions if that's something accessible to you :) Good luck in your journey of self discovery! ❤️

[@AnnainAwe]

The Rings System Thank you for your reply. By any chance do you know of other OSDD1B systems that are making KZbin videos or any other social media support or education? As far as finding professional support that has been a long fruitless journey. Despite getting a diagnosis in late 2015 at an Amen Clinic that states, in part: dissociative disorder unspecified, I just learned that the mental health program I have been working with since 2016 has my diagnosis listed as PTSD and BPD, what the f___! Government/State funded programs really suck! A few times when one of us has had the wherewithal we have tried to find a local professional that works with dissociative disorders. So far we’re batting zero🤯😢 In the here and now we are in need of an attorney for a disability hearing as well. Really struggling to have the wherewithal to call around and request appointments and THAN keep an interview appointment.

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yes!! kzbin.info/door/OqdGUT6zfPHMel_os__yTw amplexus system, and kzbin.info/door/tBWQlkXR95FCIfvhul7wGg alexandrite system! I hope yall are able to find a good provider soon, and wish yall the best of luck :)

[@AAAnjOOO]

Thank you for this. It makes complete sense to me

[@Finn-fw8db]

is it emotional amnesia if i can't ever remmeber what i was thinking or how i felt on the moment?

[@TheRingsSystem]

It could be or it couldn’t be! If you’re finding yourself in the comments, it’s worth checking w a professional if you have that capability :)

[@skipperkippz4564]

It’s awesome to see this topic being covered ^u^ I’m probably not going to get this question answered but I assume this can apply to flashbacks as well? Since those are technically a way of processing memory, I guess I would assume so. We’ve never experienced flashbacks in the traditional sense and that’s always confused us. An example would be like a person would ask me “don’t you remember that time when (insert childhood event here)?” and I’d be like “Nope.” But then I get this image in my head, like a picture taken of the event and I don’t feel any emotional connection to it; then I’d say, “actually... maybe,” and carry on with the conversation without any, like, massive triggers or mental alarms going off. Again, it’s different from a flashback in the traditional sense, and it’s only really happened a handful of times, but it would be interesting to see if anyone else has had a similar experience. - Skipper (host, online alias) and Alex (co-con), The Skyworld System

[@TheRingsSystem]

Hello!! From what you described, that matches up really well with what we call internal communication!! Sometimes alters will send pictures or memories inside to each other and it’ll still feel disconnected, as with emotional amnesia. I might stray from using the word flashback through - I’ve had a few times where another alter has experienced a flashback and I’ve been in co-conscious (aka, flashback+emotional amnesia) and it’s really rough Bc the body goes into a flashback and I’m complete disconnected from it. Other times, an alter on the inside will have a flashback - I can’t remember a time well enough that we’ve experienced, but from what other systems describe it’s a very distressing experience as an insider is having a traumatic episode and they’re unable to help. Flashbacks in the sense of DID/OSD are usually surrounding traumatic memories and experiences, and are under the “re-experiencing of traumatic material” section of PTSD criteria! It’s 1am and I’m not sure how to finish this but I hope that helps!! :)

[@skipperkippz4564]

@@TheRingsSystem Thanks! I'm still trying to learn about this, so I appreciate the reply ^u^ - Skipper

[@percyparker923]

Who else sees their memories literally in third person?

[@another_person_1370]

I thought everyone has that I remember doing that in elementary school and it's so weird

[@acesubliminals7169]

6:19 we have tried to explain this to a friend the body has who has DID but we feel as if they don’t understand because they have big amnesia barriers

[@noabinnendijk361]

Alright, so I have (I think) an alter named Dis who experiences emotional amnesia in regards to my memories, but I don't experience amnesia at all in regards to his memories. That's why I spent a lot of time confused on if he's an alter or not, because his memories feel like they're mine, and I remember him not feeling like me like I was him. But Dis experienced my memories as not-his. But I remember that like they are my memories. It's very confusing.

[@TheRingsSystem]

hello! I don't know what you're experiencing, but something that could be helpful to research would be DPDR - my professor once described her DPDR as having dissociated moments convinced that she wasn't the same person as she normally is feeling like all the memories weren't hers, but later coming out of the dissociation and realizing it was her, but just dissociated. Here's some good reading on the subject if you vibe with that description: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lROqp1wycVJVLyRk_HR6Bpy_41A9hcT6?usp=sharing

[@noabinnendijk361]

@@TheRingsSystem that's what I thought it was, but 'Dis-me' is firmly male while I am not, he has different responses and reactions... Thank you for the link, I will investigate. Edit: to clarify, I definitely do experience depersonalization, but it's always (as far as I can tell) 'not feeling like myself' and not 'feeling like a different distinct person'.

[@TheRingsSystem]

That's so valid! Again we can't really tell you anything about what you're experiencing, just share our experience and point you towards resources. Good luck! P.s. We've recorded a video about the professor + her experience w DPDR vs OSDD, and will be posting tomorrow - this doesn't have anything to do w y'all! We decided earlier it would be nice to talk about that subject and it's a coincidence :)

[@jonathanmurray2986]

I think the effects of this (coupled with some other at home issues) may have gotten me a misdiagnosis of adhd...

[@poppysquids]

Do you guys have a very good idea of how to tell who's fronting? Is there a distinct feeling of not fronting ?

[@poppysquids]

(a problem I am currently facing)

[@AhsetofAtum]

I still don't understand why osdd and DID are seperated at all. I mean what if someone has both depending on which alter/part is around...which is it then? Is it by majority rules...if most alters have emotional amnesia and only one or two have full amnesia is it osdd? I mean it all just seems really convoluted...it's all amnesia and memory issues but instead of just grouping it all together lets say it's just a different thing altogether....even though the treatment for both is still the same. Also it seems to be that full amnesia is mostly prevalent in early/undiagnosed DID and as more communication is formed full amnesia episodes lessen over time (at least for everyone I've ever talked to). Also most systems tend to have a mix of both types of amnesia to some extent or other...at least early on, yet with treatment this lessens..which also begs the question that if someone is diagnosed with DID and amnesia lessens do they now have osdd? Just frustrated with the logic of the dsm categorizations and this is not in any way targeted toward you... I'm just venting. Anyway, great video on this lesser known type of amnesia 😉👋

[@TheRingsSystem]

This is a really valid critique of the OSDD/DID separation (and I have a lot of thoughts about that myself too haha (Here's a link to the dialogue: the-rings-system.tumblr.com/post/187826444242/on-the-anpep-asks-recently) But I do want to point out that if any full amnesia is experienced at all in day to day life, regardless of which/how many alters, the diagnosis would be DID. OSDD-1b systems experience no day to day full amnesia, at all :)

[@b0624bs]

it kind of feels like watching a 1st person gameplay to me

[@infinitelithium]

is there something similar to emotional amnesia, but for when you're co-con and you are expressing the emotions of another but you yourself feel no connection to the emotions? Like watching an emotional breakdown from a 3rd person perspective but your body is the one going through the motions of it?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yes!! That's dissociation!! If another alter's feeling the emotions, it's emotional amnesia flavored dissociation, and sometimes I can just be dissociated to heck while having a panic attack or a breakdown, and feel like I'm watching my body go through the emotions without feeling them

[@infinitelithium]

@@TheRingsSystem yeah that's exactly what happens for me! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one :) I'm very new to it all, having only discovered I have headmates just over a month ago, and my brain still tries to deny everything! But I'm getting there ^-^ Your videos are so helpful - you are the first OSDD system on youtube that I've come across! Most of the information I've been finding has been about DID rather than OSDD, and it's so wonderful to be able to see/hear and learn more about OSDD :))

[@TheRingsSystem]

Good luck!! It's always a rough start but I'm proud of y'all. I'd recommend The Alexandrite system and the Amplexus system as other OSDD-1b systems to follow (check our featured channels page on the channel!) did-research.org has some good info for OSDD as well! :) 💖

[@JeanCarloms]

A question: when you “remember” those things, is it confusing because you “know” it was you but it doesn’t feel like you? How was it before you knew you have OSDD?

[@TheRingsSystem]

1. Yes, until we figured it out and it made sense :) 2. It was confusing!! But the experience itself was the same - before we knew we had OSDD, we still had osdd!

[@abbyg1466]

..everything about this video describes everything about us

[@felixmastropasqua2820]

Thanks so much for talking about this. I'm very forgetful, but it's hard to tell if it's "abnormal" i.e. a symptom of a dissociative disorder, or if it's normal, since it's all I've ever known. How does one even begin to compare their experience to that of others? I relate to what you call emotional amnesia, but I guess I thought everyone's memories were fuzzy like that, or that they can forget what they did six hours ago. If anyone can relate I'd love to hear from them.

[@TheRingsSystem]

Hiya! If it helps, emotional amnesia isn’t quite just forgetfulness - here’s an example: If Mia makes a memory 6 hours ago, and then I front, it will feel like I didn’t experience it and it will be foggy ect. But! If Mia fronts again that day or in a week, she’ll remember it fine compared to me! Vs. when singlets forget, it’s always foggy and never comes back like that with switches. This can be hard to figure out for big systems where lots of alters front or alters don’t front often though! Hope that helps!

[@emmynorman6952]

Does this mean everyone in your system know the trauma the body has experienced if they wanted too? Or does the other alters who don’t hold that trauma forget it? Also I love your channel and I think you are doing an amazing job!!

[@theblanketfortcohort7332]

AH!!! AH!! THIS!!

[@kyrabytes563]

Is like, after you switch back and you think about what happened when you switched and is easy to remember but if someone asked you all you did when someone else's was fronting with full detail you wouldn't know how to answer

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yes, Kindof! Looking back on someone else's memories, we get a general sense but feel disconnected.

[@ChibiYotsuba]

This explains SO MUCH for me... thank you! I always see people signing off with their name. How do you do that, if you're not always aware who's fronting? I would like to sign off as well, but I'm often unsure about who's fronting until later... - Ellen I think? Maybe a bit of Unknown Alter (yep that's the name) as well? -

[@TheRingsSystem]

We sometimes sign as -blurry or -someone if we don't know! :)

[@ChibiYotsuba]

@@TheRingsSystem Makes sense. Thank you. 😊

[@vivilonrane1330]

this is interesting. Do any scientific resources exist that explore this? Couldn't find some sadly

[@vinatoskywalker3768]

One question.. When an alter memory does load up and You see it from ur perspective, but that memory is of something that alter enjoys Would you feel positive that you know that alter was enjoying something?( (Am I phrasing it right? Sorry English is not my first language)

[@TheRingsSystem]

Not always - if I was near the front during the memory, I will have a better idea of whether the alter enjoyed the experience (because I was more aware of their emotions when it happened). If I was farther from the front, I will have a harder time knowing what they felt during the experience, and might not know at all. This video may help! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4DNdJ2qhL18oqM

[@noah-ys2ho]

is it possible if there isn’t always lag? or for an alter who was in thr back of the mind and not paying attention to front and immediately remember something that they didnt experience if someone reminded them of it?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yes! It affects everyone a little differently :)

[@MarleyMothBard]

can emotional amnesia affect ppl who arent in a system, but were traumatized? and do you have a link or references for if someone is looking to learn more about emotional amnesia specifically?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Ok! So I'm not actually sure where I first heard of the term "emotional amnesia" to describe the disconnect between alters where full amnesia wasn't experienced - and I still can't find where I heard of it years ago. My therapist uses the term, so it is out there... furthermore, the actual experience of emotional/partial amnesia is documented in almost every book/reading on DID that I encounter when they talk about differences in sense of self between alters, differences in narrative memory, and the "lowering of dissociative barriers" in the path towards integration. Sadly, terminology isn't used often while writing about emotional amnesia, because until recently, being distinct without full amnesia was just considered a stepping stone to integration (and because OSDD-1b isn't given nearly enough love....). I hope that puts y'all on the right path. Oh! And yes, singlets can feel like the things they've did/done aren't things they've done due to DPDR. We've had long conversations with one of our professors on this subject (she has DPDR) and the conclusion we came to is DPDR emotional amnesia is one way, meaning that in moment #1, you are dissociated and you think a past moment (#2, where you were grounded) wasn't you or your memories. However, in a third moment you snap out of the dissociation and re-ground yourself and realize it was all you - "that was me, but just me being dissociated." With OSDD-1b, that third moment never comes because it's 2 way. Alter A experiences emotional amnesia towards alter B in moment #1, thinking B's #2 wasn't them. When #3 comes, B switches out and experiences emotional amnesia towards moment #2. Then they switch back and forth, and construct two separate narrative threads. I individually, as an alter, also experience DPDR dissociation and emotional amnesia towards myself, and have moments when I don't feel "me" but it passes and I realize it was just me, but dissociated. (or I realize in the moment I'm just dissociated).

[@TheRingsSystem]

(Not quite sure if it was y'all who gave us a thumbs up already but we've edited the comment a few times with more stuff! ❤️)

[@MarleyMothBard]

The Rings System thank you for mentioning that and for the explanation! its very helpful and i think i know how to look for more info on it now!

[@lit2021]

I thought everyone's memories are like this :O :O :O Are you telling me not everyone remembers a situation like they're seing themselves as a character in a game? :S

[@tyrannica5974]

Hello, my name is Morgan. I have been dealing with some things for a while now and if I’m being honest... everything I’m dealing with is just too complicated to be JUST depression or JUST anxiety. It’s a much more complex thing. And I have so many questions and I’m so confused and honestly scared. If you’re okay with it and comfortable, I was wondering if I could ask a few questions in hopes I could find answers for myself. I’d be grateful for any info you can give me. Thank you

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yup! I'm not a psychologist or a therapist so I can't diagnose you but if you have any questions about DID/OSDD ask away :)

[@virtualgamers9022]

Omg this is us 😂😤😮 -Host

[@sagenazarian8852]

hold up............... ive thought i had did for a while now but i dont have blackouts or full amnesia but i actually get emotional amnesia ! imma bring it up with my therapist n see what he thinks >:)

[@TheRingsSystem]

Good luck! Hope it goes well!

[@sagenazarian8852]

@@TheRingsSystem thank youuuu

[@the-nighttimes]

well, the fact that I relate to this isn't concerning at all. /sar

[@xydoit2024]

Do you have OSDD 1a?

[@TheRingsSystem]

OSDD-1b :)

[@kaleidoscopingme]

but how do you know who you are and who is mia? I dont know why but manny of us are never aware of who the fuck they are and it makes it all so chaotic and please somebody help! I hate to feel like I am a shell I feel so drained ;(

[@TheRingsSystem]

The truth is that sometimes you cant! But a really good way to try to figure this out is Identity-Based grounding techniques. This is done by usually asking and answering self-based questions: What kind of music do I like? What is my favorite color? How old am I? Where do I live? What is my name? What is something I care about? Who is someone close to me? Do I like hot chocolate? Keep doing that until you have a good sense of you you are, or realize you won't be able to figure that out. It's ok if you can't! You can also try normal grounding techniques: Physical grounding techniques -5 things you can see, 4 things you can touch, 3 things you can hear, 2 things you can smell, 1 thing you can taste. -Connecting with your body - Ex: touching limbs/hair as a reminder they exist -Interesting/Profound sensations: Ex: Holding ice cubes, eating spicy food -Slow/rhythmic counting -Engaging with comforting music, objects, and people -Taking note of the physical location around you This can also apply to the other comment you left about long blurring periods! Hope that helps, and sorry for the long wait for a response! I've been thinking about it awhile :)

[@Luna-ft8yh]

BAM clothes change random

[@TheRingsSystem]

Shh, haha. There's a new collaboration coming out w the alexandrite system in a week or so and if you look closely I change shirts between our video and their video due to when we recorded :)

[@devongene9584]

well shit, i think it's time i find a therapist that actually believes in dissociative identity disorder and osdd…

[@TheRingsSystem]

I hope you find one :) (our next video is recorded but not edited yet and will be on this subject so please keep an eye out!!)

[@raedole6540]

I like your pride flag

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thanks!

[@yukiandkanamekuran]

This actually helps me a lot. I lose A LOT of my memories overtime but not right away. And this explains it. Ive been confused on whether or not I experience amnesia or not, but this helps me understand that I am an OSDD-1b system and not a DID system.

[@noli1363]

Do you know if emotional amnesia is exclusive of non switching systems ?