ThermaCell / Off Clip On Mosquito Area Repellents - Part Two - Honest Review

[@chv72]

We tried out a thermacell for the first time and not impressed with it at all. You are right about needing perfect conditions for it to reduce the amount of mosquitos.. seen so many reviews that say its great but maybe they got them for free. I appreciate your honest review. How many of us enjoy the outdoors in perfect conditions

[@EconoChallenge]

Thank you for this feedback. I argue with people in the comments all the time about whether this works or not. It seems when we buy it we don't want to admit we've made a mistake.

[@joearledge1]

It's the exact same chemical as the mosquito coils/sticks, but I think the concentration is slightly higher in the thermocell, and the same concept as the coils, just more portable. Great tests, but I'm not convinced enough to buy one. Maybe if you got several and set them up around your camp or one in a hunting blind or something like that. But at the end of the day it's a "hi-tech" version of mosquito coils/sticks. Which also begs the question why butane... they could have gone with heating coils in the unit similar to what is in vape modules... guess it's just so they can make a little more money by selling you the butane refills...

[@DoYerBest]

I wish I could thumbs this up 100 more times just for the sacrifices you made making it

[@slicktype001]

Love this comment 👍🔥

[@justinhenkel8372]

It’s like finding pirates treasure when I find the incredibly rare comments that make me smile after reading their appreciation and gratitude. Well done mate. 🤙

[@toxicteabaging]

The thermacell i got works wonders in the woods of Scandinavia, i've been using it for like 30-40 butane canisters now and i don't go into treks without it anymore even though i want to travel as light as possible because of the distances i walk, it's that important to me personally because it works so well for me where i want it to work. However; i only use it when stationary over a longer period of time, like when i am fishing for a longer duration or at my camp location to let the radius build up over time, it doesn't work so well on the go, in the wind or in temporary stops. It works well for me for where and when i expect it to perform,, i would recommend it based on that. If you live in a windy place however i would not recommend it since the slight smoke just blow out of the zone you're trying to de-bug, just use some plain ol' jungle oil, mosquito lotion or spray for that to ensure you don't appeal to them on the go. Now, the actual advantage with the thermacell i find that makes me use it instead of creams and oils is in the afternoon-> night i can clean myself in a river or lake at night, go back to my camp location and don't have to oil myself up or spray myself into a icky mess or cover myself in a bug net before sitting down and taking it easy for a while and enjoying the view and sounds of nature before clean and dry crawling down into my sleeping bag or wait for the bugs to go away. As for perspective , i am not a car camper, i go by train to my start location and do week-long treks in the north of Sweden, Norway and Finland then go back home the same way most of the time. Thanks for sharing your perspective on the product, i was curious what other people thought about it and found this to be a good and genuine opinion on these kind of products.

[@Jonisco1]

Hello from Finland. Thermacell works here. I don,'t use it because it can kill dogs. It poison. Thermacell is too expensive to use, euro/hour. I use mosquito smokes or spray. But spray can cause damage to clothes.

[@AvoidingChores]

The problem I'm finding is that a lot of you tubers are getting free product and not giving a real test or gush a little more than if they paid money. I've held back getting this since I couldn't tell if it was useful. Glad your video is the real deal 😀

[@EconoChallenge]

+Jim Cyr I know what you are saying. I think I will have more to say about that subject in a coming video.

[@scarfade1635]

if you are given a free product to review you have to say exactly what they tell you to say. Proof of this is when the nintendo switch was released and reviewers were forced to say its small and compact and cute

[@mikejw58]

I have the perfect solution. An air conditioned hotel with an indoor heated swimming pool. Problem solved.

[@alingjeprox7610]

lol

[@boarnold8911]

I was itching just watching you go through that. Thanks for you honest review.

[@EconoChallenge]

You are welcome

[@10Flat]

I listened to another KZbinr swearing by it, but he never did a demonstration. I had a $106 order on amazon for a few kits. Thanks to your review. I just canceled. Nice work

[@sharonc9041]

Bo! Absolutely right. It was indeed an HONEST REVIEW. Two thumbs up.

[@timgoode826]

Thank-you for taking the time to put this product to the test in an actual real life scenario. It is really disappointing to see companies putting out products that do not work as advertised, even in the best of conditions. Thanks for the honest review!!

[@EconoChallenge]

If it helps you it was worth it. Thank you for the visit.

[@jamescatlover123]

Best mosquito repellents review I found

[@EconoChallenge]

Wow, thanks!

[@Curiosityuk]

Very impressive test and your effort is much appreciated. I nearly bought the Thermacell. You saved me a few pounds, so thank you.

[@RockPaintingMomma]

Oh, you deserve a medal for enduring THAT!!!! Thanks for an honest, informative review!!

[@EliMTL]

Great review and I like your honest review- the audio is 100% bang on- I could even hear the mosquitoes in the beginning. Your self sacrifice to these pests is something to be commended for. Awesome review.

[@EconoChallenge]

Comments like this are what keep me going. Thank you so much.

[@raykiii]

Well said! The bottom line is "If I carry it, it has to work." There is the 3 second sound byte that covers the essence of this video.

[@EconoChallenge]

Ray Konold Well said !!!!

[@raykiii]

Thank you!

[@ToniasBusy]

By far the best review I've ever seen. I'm 35 and prepping for my first camping trip in August. Over the past several years my reaction to mosquito bites has worsened significantly - changing from small circular annoying bites to 1+" firey welts. As a gardener w/ a house by the river, I've found that a mixture of coconut oil & tea tree oil, applied all over (even under clothes) protects me for a couple of hours - even better than Off which I had to apply every 20 mins. I get that not everyone's skin may tolerate or benefit from a liberal amount of oil but it helps me tremendously and leaves my skin soft. I may try the Thermacell to serve as backup while gardening or in the backyard relaxing, but I'm going to invest in one of those bug jackets for any woodsy excursions that require hiking while mosquitos are out and stick to topical applications as you suggested.

[@EconoChallenge]

This is the kind of feedback that makes it all worth it. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@stashinko]

Thank you so much for this series of videos. As someone who always gets 10 bites before anyone else gets one, this speaks volumes. You saved me a good $50+, sir!

[@EconoChallenge]

This is awesome to read. Thank you so much for your encouragement. It keeps me going.

[@1o1s1s1i1e]

Excellent review! This is what makes your videos so special Jeep and why we trust your reviews. Way to take one for the team! I've been a trout fisherman, backpacker, and camper for over fifty years and the best protection comes from repellent applied directly to your skin and clothes. Sitting by the campfire early in the evening during the "mosquito hour" green break ferns tossed on the fire to make a smudge works well, if you can stand the smoke. Take care, Ossie

[@EconoChallenge]

Ossie Weinert Thank for that tip and your support. It means a lot my friend.

[@bigmac3006]

Fantastic video! Finally a real life test of these things. Great job.

[@markashlock8058]

Thermocells work well for us, even in somewhat "breezy" conditions. In light wind, we just set the thermocell up wind from us. If the wind is blowing to hard for the thermo to work, it's normally blowing the skeeters away. I will admit that I have never tried it with the type of infestation you were experiencing ; ) Great job and thanks for taking one for the team!!

[@novedekne]

I appreciate the effort you went in to testing this product, although I’m not all the way convinced you used it in its intended setting. The package itself states that it can be used for camping, fishing, hunting, backyard, or DIY which seems to imply that its intended use is in a stationary environment. I found brand new one of these at my local dump’s free table with some refills included so I have an opportunity to test it out myself while camping.

[@ebbtides]

FINALLY a review with mosquitos like I'm used to seeing! Thanks for the comprehensive test - I had a hunch that most of these reviews I saw weren't representative of the big mosquito swarms I get up here in northern Manitoba! Guess I'll be sticking with the heavy duty OFF lotion

[@daijoubu4529]

I'm getting itchy just by watching your video, thanks for sacrificing yourself in the name of science lol

[@Druetty]

Thanks for 'taking one for the team'! Great revue and thanks for sharing it.

[@RomeoEdward]

I'm not a backpacker but very much an outdoors woods guy. I have had some luck with the Thermacell based on conditions. My go to is Repel brand Lemon Eucalyptus. One thing I have found out after spending over 50 years in the woods is don't spray the repellent on your skin directly. Spray it on your hand and rub it into you skin. I works much better and longer that way. Enjoyed your video very much, thank you.

[@EconoChallenge]

Your feedback is much appreciated. I agree the key to success is conditions. I use a brand of lemon eucalyptus repellent also. I think it works very well.

[@kobayashimaru8114]

Thank you sincerely for your suffering to bring us this video review! I was skeptical yet tempted to try out the Thermacell due to all the positive reviews. But after watching your video I think my skepticism is justified.

[@EconoChallenge]

Really glad this review helped you out. Thank you for that fantastic feedback.

[@rcracer3235]

thank you for taking one for the team I don't think I could have done it. It helped out a great deal.

[@CastanedaFishing]

First time seeing this channel and I was thinking about buying the thermacell and glad I saw this. Love channels like these that actually do real world test and give honest reviews about products

[@sigzulu6749]

I love how honest you are ! Great job .

[@EconoChallenge]

Thank you very much. That compliment means a lot.

[@andreluu2115]

Thank you so much, you are really an honest review. This is the video that lots of the manufacturers don't want me (consumers) to see :) Great works. Thanks again.

[@shanec8812]

Thank you so much! Thumbs up from me my friend. Mosquitos have been so bad here this year it hard to go out and water my garden for 5 min before I retreat and get eaten alive. I really like your netting and will look into that also because it seems to work great.

[@thedukelives24]

Not the hero we asked for, but the hero we needed.

[@MrBarrySell]

That’s funny shit!

[@mobiltec]

Yep I've been using Deep Woods Off forever. I fish and sometimes the best fishing is in areas that are over run by mosquitos.

[@EconoChallenge]

mobiltec I am guess that is because only the real hardy fishermen could stand the mosquitoes long enough to catch any fish. LOL

[@mobiltec]

EconoChallenge Good point. I do find myself alone a lot when I go to these places LOL.

[@janebray9392]

Way to take a hit for the team😍good grief!!! I watched both videos and realized a bug spray will do!! Saved me money, thank you!!! Loved seeing the trilliums in the background, what a display!!!

[@PiH18]

Thank you for the review. It was extremely useful in helping me decide whether it was a good idea to buy the product.

[@johnmyers52]

Thanks so much for your sacrifice on our behalf.

[@ladyIWG]

Thank you so much for your review. I identify as a mosquito magnet and am trying to come across any solution to keep them from biting me. I appreciate your honest feedback with the visuals very much! Thank you thank you!

[@CoolHuman]

Breath of fresh air compared to the 'free product for a glowing review' army of youtubers and TikTokkers out there. Integrity is rare these days.

[@EconoChallenge]

Thank You

[@scarletNbloom]

I gotta give it to you for putting your body on the line for these reviews. Thanks for the great insight.

[@EconoChallenge]

You are very welcome.

[@normhill1748]

ive been looking for a video like this for a long time.THANKYOU.

[@jimmiedisherjr1536]

I was just getting ready to buy one tomorrow, I actually have a frog sanctuary behind my house. You can hear them at night. I've got a screened in inflatable hot tub that has a few openings and I was thinking about it for that, but there is always wind back here. Thank you for this disturbing but great review! I think I'm going to put the purchase on hold.

[@gnohn9366]

Simms bug shirt and thermacell is mainly what we use on BWCA canoe trips. Works great and we have very little need for DEET. We only use the thermacell in camp not while portaging. We also treat our hats with permethrin.

[@Dieiamgi]

glad to run into your video. i am happy to sub to this channel. You suffered a lot of bites for this review and I thank you for your dedication.

[@EconoChallenge]

+Jake B ;-) You are welcome. I am thrilled it is helping people out.

[@shugemery]

I have had fairly good luck with the Off....seems to keep most off me but they stay around me. Knocks them backa bit. You got some stubborn skeets! Last trip in BWCA used sticks, Off, deet and permetharin.

[@EconoChallenge]

***** Spring bug conditions you can feel like you need to throw everything you got at em just to stay sane!! I am just testing out the permethrin clothing spray for the first time this year. So far I am impressed with the result. For some reason you can`t buy the stuff in stores up this way. Kind of like the coffee crisp situation but in reverse. LOL

[@hobbitlongshanks9129]

the mosquito jacket is awesome and on my list for sure

[@EconoChallenge]

Hobbit Longshanks Make sure the face screen is black. That way when the sun hits it you can still see through the screen.

[@alextownsend3264]

I live in South Carolina and I have had my thermacell run out of butane without my knowledge until I was being swarmed by mosquitoes and after refueling and lighting it they were gone again. there are haters everywhere I have used this product for over 10 years and love it

[@jeffmcgovern5674]

I don't know you suggest he is a "hater". He used the product (twice) in areas that had a lot of mosquitoes and he feels, with video evidence, that the product doesn't work effectively. That doesn't make him a hater.

[@Campfirepiston]

I was going to buy one of these until I found this review ...Great job I am now a new sub

[@EconoChallenge]

+Mike “campfirepiston” M Awesome. Thank you for feedback.

[@billb5732]

Holy cow, that's some serious mosquitoes. I feel as though you should get paid to do this particular review. I'm surprised that lemon-eucalyptus works so well. THAT was very helpful! I'm always shy about using too much picaridin and I avoid DEET. I am sparing about permethrin in the Summer when I wear a single layer of clothing. But I wouldn't feel bashful about going wild with botanical spray. So, thanks!

[@EconoChallenge]

I am glad some of these ideas helped.

[@BudFox559]

Excellent review this is exactly what I wanted to know. A very relevant review

[@birdsculptures]

I remember watching somewhere about 20 years ago about a concept device that burnt mosquitoes' wings off with a low power laser. Where is that product already?

[@mrblueskynm3968]

This was an excellent review. I have a ThermaCell unit and your review is spot on with what I've observed. It definitely works to some degree and will help reduce massive swarms around you in light wind conditions. The problem most people aren't aware of is the ThermaCell does not stay lit in high elevations. Mine usually stays lit at elevations to 8,000' and is useless/frustrating at higher elevations. The ThermaCell manufacturer is aware of this problem, but they do not mention it in the product labeling. Deet containing repellant lotions work best when you're not worried about scent while hunting. Buyer beware!

[@EconoChallenge]

Awesome additional info in this comment. Thanks for sharing.

[@taft1734]

Great review! You da man!!! Thank you for your personal sacrifices doing these types of videos.

[@joekool19671]

Bought 2 and they worked great besides dosent say be around 10000000 of mosquitoes and should be turned on b4 you actually start hanging out around it I set mine up b4 I go outside to hang out

[@Forestwalker111]

Great review Jeep! I think you put these products through their paces and they proved that your best bet is something that doesn't run out of batteries or pads or could or even lotion...good ol cover! And I agree with Rob...cover and smoke are your two best friends any day anywhere! Great to see you my friend. :) Be well Craig

[@EconoChallenge]

Forestwalker111 Thanks brother.

[@42mag]

I'd say that you earned my sub. I'm still itching from watching that. The improvement from the ThermaCell was nice to see how it works better than the competition, but it's obviously not the wonder product they make it out to be. I think I'll give it a shot.

[@EconoChallenge]

That is great feedback. Thank you so much for leaving a comment.

[@MaffTUK]

Nothing better than a good honest reviewand that was most certainly that.Thank you for thatMaff

[@EconoChallenge]

+Maff T You are welcome and I hope it helped.

[@tjinla9850]

Thanks for working so hard in presenting this review and keeping it real. I have one of the thermacell units and it works great inside a two man hunting blind. A little strong but man you can see those mosquitoes exiting quick. I also like it in my work shop on those days I don't run the AC and keep the door open. The little pests stop at the door. So there are places for which the unit serves a purpose but you are correct in saying they don't work well whenever there is wind that disperses the "goodies" coming from those flavor packets.

[@EconoChallenge]

That is awesome feedback. Several people have said it works well in hunting blinds. The instructions and advertising should give people this information so they know how best to use this tool.

[@gelssonreyes6582]

thank you very much for a very honest review, that is one of the reasons i subscribed to you channel, because of the honesty of your videos , thank ageing

[@SpartanJohns]

I liked your review. Last year I was in the Danube Delta for 3 days and at 8 pm the mosquitos would come out for about 3 hours...We were in a bug tent and had those coils. We also used a few different brands of mosquito repellant creams...nothing worked. I will try to see if I can get the OFF Botanicals that you showed here. That situation was the only one where mosquitos were as bad as seen in your clips. Usually in the woods I would have a few around me..not like you had... And I will get bitten 1-2 every 5-10 minutes... In the Delta it was a bit worse than your camera picked up. A nice trick that locals swear by and really works: Moonshine! Not on your skin, but taken internally.

[@EconoChallenge]

SpartanJohns One year a buddy of mine that comes on the Econo Challenge tried eating raw garlic for three days before the trip. He was eating cloves two and three at a time at meals. The only thing he kept away was the rest of the group. Another year one of us tried vitamin B with similar disastrous results. I tried a home recipe for a repellent based in the yarrow plant and got sick from all the bites I received. I am betting the moonshine helps them not feel all the bites they are getting LOL. At least it would have other fun effects.

[@BorealBushcraftCanada]

Thx for taking one for the team! I don't see any point buying these considering your test results! Great review! Cheers Jeep!

[@EconoChallenge]

Boreal Bushcraft Canada Thank you my friend. I wonder why so many reviews say these things work great. What am I missing?

[@BorealBushcraftCanada]

I just saw the commercial for the OFF battery powered thingy you tested. In the commercial it says the test was ran in a 30cm3 closed Plexiglas box.... What a joke... As for other reviews, I've seen a few of them ,and none of them come even close to the amount of mosquitos your were exposed with... So thumbs up to you for really testing these products in proper conditions. This product might be perfect for having lunch with friends outside on the patio or in different environments where mosquitos are much more rare or less aggressive...

[@BorealBushcraftCanada]

Ya that plexy glass test is a true joke them skeeters probably died from lack of oxygen lol I say just bare with them buggers and eventually you will be amune .Andy

[@EconoChallenge]

I wondered it that might happen. It seems to me that I don`t react to the bites in the same way I did 20 years ago. So you think that might be possible?

[@sharonc9041]

Very interesting; thanks for all your time and effort because it isn't wasted. I GOT IT without having to go through all you did for us. Thank you very much for all this.

[@simonmcmillan896]

Thank you for that comprehensive review. Was considering buying a Thermacell for my Algonquin trip coming up but I think you've convinced me that my money will be better spent on a bug shelter and good old spray.

[@Qantz]

Thank you! I'm glad I watched this before buying.

[@ruthless4645]

Excellent and honest review Jeep, please if you could, follow it up with a further review using Picaridin and Permethrin and it would make it all the more complete. I'm in Ontario, and this year is shaping up to be a particularly bad year for the Black Legged Tick (Lyme disease) and a heavy year for mosquitoes as well. A review of those two products would undoubtedly be a very welcomed addition for your viewers.

[@EconoChallenge]

ruthless4645 Just received a batch of Sawyer Permethrin spray from Amazon this week. I have one outfit sprayed, dried and ready to test out on my adventures this weekend. If I like what I see there will certainly be a follow up video. I am also from Ontario and am not looking forward to having to deal with Ticks. So far I have never had any tick problems. I hope that continues.

[@flashmanv3260]

I hike/backpack in the woods alot, have never seen that many mosquitos before ! Thanks for doing such a great test. My friend has the thermacell, had it running when we sit in the backyard at the table, seems to work well,.. but it is not fighting off what you have there for your test.

[@EconoChallenge]

If it will fight off one ... then it should also work on many as I see it. So I deliberately went to a place with many to really give it a good test. I also need to make sure the results ... good or bad were easily visible on camera. Thanks for watching.

[@davidharkins5345]

Great job on doing the test on these products. But I do have and use a thermacell and very happy with it. I use it hunting, fishing and grilling out on the porch . The thermacell is not 100% but it works well enough for me.

[@saradreaming]

Excellent demonstration and discussion. You covered much more than I expected. I was kind of wishing that stuff would work. Guess it's back to the chemicals and bug nets like you said. I've been using with Sawyer Picaridin repellent lately. So far it seems to work as well as the DEET. I like that there is no worries of melting plastic gear, eye glasses, and skin like the DEET will do.. Oh and by the way. I mentioned previously that the mosquitoes are bad here on the coast. Yours are apparently still much worse. I'm still itching from watching you. Hope you had some After-bite or something.. :-)

[@EconoChallenge]

saradreaming We were out for an overnight in a prime mosquito area a few weekends back. You could not take the bug jacket off your head to eat. I would drink water right through the screen to avoid letting them get at my head. So I decided to order the Sawyer clothing gear and tent spray with Permethrin from Amazon. They don`t sell it up here. I have treated one outfit so far and am hoping to get out this weekend and see if it works better. I am even more hopeful now that I know you have tried it.

[@mauricecardinal6352]

Excellent reviews. Thank you. Saved me a few bucks.

[@steveevans3927]

Appreciate your time and efforts making this. thankx

[@EconoChallenge]

It is viewers like you that make me do it. Thank you for watching.

[@jamesburrows7942]

Excellent trustworthy review! You even challenged your thinking, which is rare. Based on my needs, I think I'll pick one up. But my expectations are probably more realistic now. Thank you!

[@Flashahol]

I think people who recommend this product must not hike one bit. How could fumes protect you when they are TRAILING behind? Great test and thank you for doing this.

[@Winterreise189]

It's not meant for hiking and doesn't claim to be... you'd have to be pretty stunned to think this is for anything other than being on a 15 x 15 radius spot and not leaving it

[@-bdl2696]

good for hunting, especially when you are in a tree for a while.

[@regat70]

I just walk outside to sit on my carport and about 20 mosquitoes landed on my leg as I was sitting down. I got went inside to get my Thermacell that my son bought me and started it and came back outside to put it on the ground by me. I was again attack by 20 or so mosquitoes. I went back inside to let it warm up and after about 8 minutes I went back outside and I didnt see a single mosquito on me or flying around me. After about thirty minutes I cut on my fan because it's hot In South Carolina right and still no mosquitoes. I love mine, but I haven't tried it like a place where you are. Thanks for your review but I'll keep mine. Best thing I've ever used besides off.

[@EconoChallenge]

Thank you. This review has received many mixed comments from users. One common theme is if you use it in an enclosed or simi enclosed areas it works much better than out in the open.

[@tperk100]

Great Review!! I have TWO Thermacells and using them BOTH at the same time has proven to be only moderately effective. I have "retired" them and gone back to (VERY effective) DEET Lotion. I like the lotion because I can carry it with me in a small tube, and apply it ONLY if the critters are out....and get INSTANT 99.9% protection. I just don't understand why my fellow hunters say these things are so good.

[@EconoChallenge]

I don't understand it either but man I am so glad you commented. Thank you.

[@brettkelly4575]

Mine works amazing I've been on my porch for like three hours relaxing and no mosquitoes I turned it off and showered and when I smoked a cig outside easily 12 bites

[@oh_ive_eatenhere_before6421]

Thank you for this thorough review! Plus the amount of mosquitoes you had to endure to make this video! Haha, much appreciate it.

[@tomhamp2915]

Brilliant review...thank you!!!

[@Sigma_Freud18]

As usual, Jeep...Great content and very useful.

[@christineizzo123]

I did some research and the active ingredient is allethrin, which is the same thing as Black Flag flying insect fogger that is used with heat as well. Rather than being a repellant, it's an insecticide (that supposedly isn't harmful to humans). Because you have so many mosquitoes, it is probably taking much longer to kill all of them that fly in from beyond the 15 feet perimeter and that's why it's taking so long to work.

[@EconoChallenge]

As a kid I remember watching "PIC" coil smoke waft up to the ceiling in our tent trailer and then watching the mosquitoes fall to the floor and table. I would not burn that stuff inside now as I don't think it was a good idea to breath in that smoke. You needed to reach a certain density of smoke inside before they started dying. I really don't think you can achieve the same affect in the outdoors.

[@AlbertaBushcrafter]

Curiouser and curiouser. The OFF! Clip-On Fan has the same poor results out here in Alberta, but my Thermacell still has great results out here and I truly do get about a 4-metre radius off this device. The sticks and coils have the same effect unless you're in a depession that blocks the wind. And my property butts right up onto swampland - I'll get swarmed if I walk even one metre outside that radius. Any bugs inside that radius don't bite as much, either. But I'm now a huge fan of the Sawyer Controlled Release bug repellent lotion (more than the OFF! stuff), and the permethrin clothing spray as well. I'm trying to get some of the latter shipped up from the US but I keep running into issues with Customs. More to come.

[@EconoChallenge]

Alberta Bushcrafter The Thermacell performed pretty good in this test with almost no wind. Certainly not a mosquito free zone and certainly not the 15 foot by 15 foot protection zone advertised. But I rarely find myself in a no wind situation. Your review on this was the one that pushed me to give it a try. I certainly will take it car camping now that I own one. As for the permethrin, I purchased mine from Amazon and it was shipped to me without any issue. I plan to review it after I play with it a bit more. I want to prove or disprove the claim that it will last for a few wash cycles. Otherwise this is also another expensive way to protect yourself from mosquitoes.

[@AlbertaBushcrafter]

I've seen dozens of good reviews on the spray-in permethrin treatment, so I'm debating whether to pay the really steep cost of this stuff on Amazon. Apparently Bass Pro Shops in Calgary may have the stuff so I might just have a relative there buy some and ship it to me instead (and save half of the cost). I'm curious about how many washes it stays in for too. I bet there are restrictions such as "wash separately in cold water" to get the full effect, but I'm willing to live with that.

[@EconoChallenge]

A viewer who is employed as a veterinarian suggested a brand of flea spray that contains permethrin as a cheaper alternative that is available in Canada. She suggested using this in the same way as the more expensive Sawyer product. What do you think of this idea?

[@AlbertaBushcrafter]

I'm not sure if it would last more than one wash, but it certainly is worth researching. If it works, then it would be the first time I've ever criticized Sawyer - and that's for not making their product more available in Canada. Sonetimes it seems that the rest of the world (especially the US and UK) seem to think Canada is just the 51st state anyway (hint: we're not...). It would be really interesting to see their reactions to the madness that is the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency. We can only get about half the gear other countries can, it seems, and at a much higher price.

[@adamw2785]

I don't know if you ever solved the issue of getting permethrin products. But if you live near a farm supply store, they should carry it by the jug, or have large spray bottles of it. Horse farmers use it to protect their horses from mosquitoes and flies.

[@MarcelloNesca]

Fantastic and highly objective review!

[@birdsculptures]

Excellent review. You said it, the best way to repel mosquitoes is to apply mosquito repellent to your skin.

[@RaymondRios]

Great review and I'm sorry you had to endure the biting of those pesky blood suckers. I personally thank you for this review because I was on the fence about buying one.

[@EconoChallenge]

You very welcome

[@kennethspeed2019]

Jeep thanks for going through all that effort to test these products out. It's really depressing that none of them seem to work. I recently read that Sawyer's Fisherman's Friend is the best insect repellant bu I haven't tried it yet. I used to use repellants that had lots of Deet in them but they always made me feel vaguely ill for some reason. I tried a repellant called Herbal Armor and I have to say that I'm surprised at how well it worked. Last year I started spraying my clothing with paramethrin which works amazingly well at keeping insects away you and your clothing but is banned in Canada.

[@EconoChallenge]

Kenneth Speed I purchased Sawyer Permethrin spray for my clothing and plan to try it out this weekend. Shhhhh don`t tell the Government. LOL

[@lafielanarchy]

THanks, well thought out video

[@cincinnatiking8008]

Thank you for this video!

[@garng3217]

Your are so brave! Thank you for the video.

[@EconoChallenge]

You are very welcome. Thank you for the visit.

[@brainfreeze1925]

Great job on this video. What conservation area where you visiting?

[@EconoChallenge]

HR Frink Conservation Area and Outdoor Education Centre

[@jacqueline7118]

Very informative and useful info, thanks for the testing and the videos!

[@erichilligoss598]

Nice educational video, thank you

[@alguzman1072]

Thank you so much for doing these tests thank you for saving me tons of money🙏

[@crisdelgado1008]

Thank you for your committed effort to demo these products. Sorry about all the bites you endured to show what really works.

[@Stumpman61]

Great video thanks for taking the time and effort 🇺🇸👍🏻

[@HKGDot]

Zoooone of protection that tone is so great

[@EconoChallenge]

LOL ;-)

[@grimaldo99]

Thank you for your great review!!! I have learn alot, and a very detail explanation of the products!!!! Big thumbs Up!!!

[@EconoChallenge]

grimaldo99 Wow. Awesome. Thank you!!!!

[@axenz1]

Omg, I was worried the mosquito biting over you. Thanks for the video

[@EconoChallenge]

It was a sacrifice well worth it if I gave you some useful information.

[@jgrudier]

Can't find any recent videos relating to bug deterrents, so sorry for posting on a old video. I came across this one while researching the thermacell and have since watched about 30 of your videos. Love the blatant honesty. They are all well done. Now that Off Botanicals has been discontinued, what are you using? Or is it only not available in the US? Have you tried Repel brand of Lemon Eucalyptus?

[@EconoChallenge]

Oh no. I did not know that it was discontinued. I'm still able to buy it in Canada.

[@jgrudier]

@@EconoChallenge It is unavailable anywhere online in the US. I purchased the Repel brand. Worked on the porch. Next week I will test in the woods, but nothing like what you have. I will report back and let you know if it might be worth a new challenge. Repel vs Off Lemon Eucalyptus.

[@EconoChallenge]

@@jgrudier Wow. Good luck with the test.

[@jgrudier]

@@EconoChallenge It was nothing like your test, but 4 days, no bites at all. Same 2 hour limit and black flies and mosquitoes started hovering around you. Seems like it might be the same as the Off version. I would still love to see the Repel vs Off challenge. Please do it!

[@jimconway3301]

Why do you wait till you get to where you are going to turn it on.Turn it on at your car.Then let it get going.I hunt turkeys on the DELMARVA Peninsula in the USA.Check your map and those critters are the worse.In the morning in my Jeep i turn it on and wait 10 min.then head into the woods.When i first sit down they swarm me but don't bite.I still use Off on exposed parts to help keep the ticks and chiggers off.Hope that helps.

[@matthewfranco4170]

Great video. How long does the off botanicals work before you need to reapply in those conditions?

[@EconoChallenge]

If you are sweating a lot you will need to reapply ever 1-2 hours. Otherwise, I put it on at dusk and that does me for the night.

[@jacquelinemahon4098]

That was a great video. You are very thorough in your review. I am interested in your netting protector. Does it work? Where would I get one of those? Thank you.

[@EconoChallenge]

My tip is always by your netting one to two sizes larger than what you would normally wear. Baggy fit avoids having them bite you through the netting. I purchased my bug jacket at a camping store.

[@jacquelinemahon4098]

@@EconoChallenge Thank you.

[@walleyefishinrod3115]

Well, I was hoping it would work better than it did. Thanks for the review Jeep. Saved me some money. Good video brother.(as always) Take care my friend...Rod

[@EconoChallenge]

walleyefishin rod I was hoping they would work better than they did. I was betting the mosquito stick were going to work better than they did. That was a surprise for me.

[@12bi]

Thanks for doing this honest review. I was going to buy a ThermaCell, but after watching your video, I decided not to get one.

[@lloyd2654]

That 15 x 15 area is not a walking area it is while you are non-mobile sitting in your boat fishing sitting in your Treestand hunting sitting at the table in the park it was wonderful no mosquitoes but if that 15 x 15 area is constantly changing because you are movingIt will not work that way it was made for sediment Terry use

[@kurtbaier6122]

Sitting on a lit stick might increase your subs! Seriously, you went above and beyond. Many thanks for the vid. I just sub'd.

[@EconoChallenge]

Fantastic feedback my friend. I will be posting again soon.

[@keitharoo1962]

Thanks for doing an honest and scientifically valid comparison and review. I too was ready to fall for the positive reviews for this product on KZbin. Now I know the truth. Thank you so much for doing this video.

[@viewtheworld08]

Thank you I just watched your videos after purchasing a Thermacell Patio Shield, and I will do exactly what you recommend keep for the Patio no camping. appreciated thank you again.

[@EconoChallenge]

You are very welcome.

[@burtenplays]

I already purchased the two larger pad camp fuel ones off Amazon and can return them if they don't do nothin. Will try to remember to update if it does anything for maybe a quarter to half as bad mosquito conditions in my backyard in Florida. There is a large stagnant pond I'd like to clear up and try and aerate, not there yet and have been chipping away at a near impenetrable forest (which is as bad with mosquitos in your video if I go in) of bamboo. The old residents must have let it get out of hand and it spread real bad. So just even being out there for grilling burgers then eat inside you still have to hose down. I'll have to try out that type of off. I got that red can off deet alternate that started with p I think and it was worthless so it kind of put me off alternatives. If it keeps them off and doesn't make me feel like I'm suffocating in the heat you will be my absolute hero👍

[@EconoChallenge]

I purchased the patio version they started selling a few years ago. It is powered by a fuel bottle. I am expecting it to work about as well as the belt version I tested in this video. I am hoping to complete the next test in the coming spring bug conditions.

[@burtenplays]

@@EconoChallenge The mosquito menace died down right after a couple days in the 30s. The weekend before I got absolutely lit up hence the purchase before going nuclear and fogging that garlic stuff then a insecticide if that doesn't do it. So I haven't really got to put it to the test... A unfortunately timed blessing lol.