Thermite On Ice Explosion

[@THYZOID]

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[@LabCoatz_Science]

Great video man, glad to see the German chemtubers together again! I do have a different explanation for the thermite explosion though: I believe it is a coulomb explosion, similar to sodium in water. Essentially, in some cases when a reactive liquid metal contacts water, the water will solvate some of the metal's electrons, causing the metal to develop a net-positive charge. This causes the liquid metal to basically repel itself, blowing itself apart! Thunderf00t actually has a great video on this phenomenon, which explains its relation to thermite in much greater detail. I personally find this theory more believable, since an oxy-hydrogen detonation would require a very large amount of hydrogen to build up around the white-hot metal without prematurely igniting or blowing away.

[@the_needle_lies]

LabCoatz! Love your channel, you should collab with Thy Labs sometime!

[@THYZOID]

Damn thats a good theory too!

[@ThijsKops]

Most likely from molten and unreacted aluminium.

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

Also thought about it maybe brimg a coloumb explosion. Happens super darn fast. Wonder if you could observe it in high speed like TF did it with alkali metals. Another mystery to solve I guess.

[@argoneum]

Yep, just like (molten) alkali metals exploding in water. Or molten zirconium exploding in Chernobyl. Still theory, but a good one, and this kind of explosions are more powerful than just hydrogen, especially in open area. Not only a loud BANG, but also coming from within metal itself (rapidly losing electrons into water), causing it to splash around.

[@EliasExperiments]

It was great doing this with you and advanced tinkering! Hopefully we can do a lot more projects like that in the future!

[@unf3z4nt]

Distributor: How much crude thermite do you need? This guy: YES!!

[@Progamezia]

Thermite ignition with KMnO4 and propane 1,2,3-triol. Interesting.Also,that frozen cyclohexane was quite funny because it was so random and out of the world

[@TheBackyardChemist]

Whatever the mechanism is for the explosion, it cannot happen without a process that can exponentially increase reaction rate. Since ice is solid and iron is liquid it must involve some mechanism of creating more and more reactive surface area. I think the iron directly reducing the water is probably a component, perhaps the main component of how it happens.

[@ai_serf]

ice goes to gas, lots of oxygen in that gas, you now have oxidizer and fuel(thermite). i guess we go boom now.

[@That_Chemist]

I think it's more likely the metal is reacting with water, forming metal oxides + H2, and that reacts with O2 from the air

[@THYZOID]

That is another great theory. Would explain the massive amount of released energy

[@LabCoatz_Science]

I think the metal definitely reacts with the water, but I think the main detonation comes from a coulomb explosion, similar to sodium. The hydrogen would be formed far above its auto-ignition temperature, and it would need to build up and mix with the oxygen in the air to detonate.

[@kateonianlaw1127]

@@THYZOID Maybe your next test would be molten iron oxide pored onto ice.

[@AdvancedTinkering]

Great video! It was such a fun day!

[@LumirayYT]

Amazing Video as always. Was a pleasure to be there :)

[@TheGayestPersononYouTube]

Thermite, you love to see it! Great work, guys! If that method of ruby formation didn’t work out, I know when I was doing chromium thermite (chromium oxide + aluminum + a little potassium nitrate as the regular reaction was too slow) some parts of the slag were fluorescing bright red so maybe if you want to continue down the rabbit hole of thermite rubies that may be a good next try! I have a feeling I posted this in someone’s comment section before some years ago so ignore me if I’m repeating myself here.

[@TheRolemodel1337]

yes the original thermite guy i enjoyed your videos when they came out

[@TheGayestPersononYouTube]

@@TheRolemodel1337 I wouldn’t say THE original by any stretch, but thanks regardless 😅. Also, “when they came out” is a perfect way to phrase that as it’s been half a decade already since the last ep.

[@TheRolemodel1337]

@@TheGayestPersononKZbin time flies we're getting old :,D

[@leothecrafter4808]

By the viscosity and the shininess, you ignited it with permanganate and glycerin?

[@THYZOID]

that shall remain a mystery

[@leothecrafter4808]

@@THYZOID everyone acts like permanganate is super illegal, but surprisingly you can buy concentrated solution without issue and solid KMnO4 in small quantities without issue and larger amounts with an end-user certificate

[@kirkc9643]

yes

[@Db42069]

Lol. He wasn't trying to hide it from you or make it a guessing game. They're trying to keep their videos from being blocked or pulled down from KZbin for violating the terms and conditions. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what it is.

[@Drinksfromtap]

Very cool, looks fun! Chemistry lecture in college set off a thermite reaction as a demonstration and I still remember the waves of heat radiating across the lecture hall. :)

[@jadentonkin466]

Super underrated channel deserves way more views !!!!

[@THYZOID]

nobody deserves anything but if it stays like that for much longer i´ll be gone

[@kylepalmer9432]

Could it be that the iFe is reacting directly with the water similar to Na with water, the explosion from Na & water is due to a build up of positive ions in the metal, I don't know if I'm remembering that right but a channel called Thunderf00t did some videos on alkali metals reacting with water!

[@karolus28]

cool

[@100-pc-notbot]

I loved playing with thermite... it's wonderful to watch Liquid Metal pouring down a hill :) (No humans, animals or anything else was hurt)

[@TheRolemodel1337]

What about remaining super heated aluminium reacting directly with water could this be responsible for the explosion? (similar to a flash powder) burning magnesium also explodes in water and burning magnesium can even use CO2 as an oxidizer

[@ΠέτροςΚαλαμπόκης]

possibly for those wondering about this mysterious mixture that ignited the thermite, i guess it is potassium permanganate and glycerol...

[@ronaldbrowne]

Great video. My son theorizes that the extreme heat rapidly produces steam which causes the explosion.

[@tomgray8512]

Has there been an experiment with thermite on snow?

[@jordoncailifours4488]

this is a good one keep up the great work

[@gigogrozni]

Educated guess: I'd say water vapor and aluminum caused that big bang, as H2 evolved and burned later with O2. Dehydration of sugar didn't do the same thing, as C is pretty good at quenching free radicals.

[@alllove1754]

That was awesome!!

[@PoorMansChemist]

Fiery but mostly peaceful thermite. 😁

[@PoorMansChemist]

PS Sorry. Couldn't resist. 😇 Very cool demo. I was looking as thermate compositions the other day. Just to play around with. MnO2 thermite reacts quite rapidly I discovered.

[@THYZOID]

I might be able to show a large amount of magnesium thermite in the future

[@foc2241]

Ah yes, KMnO4 and glycerol 😂😍

[@yasserotb1454]

make more chem fun vids this quenches my thirst for chemical reactions

[@horatiumoldovan4836]

I saw the one in which someone poured molten Al into a watermelon 🍉 and it resulted in modern art

[@TheMono25]

I hate how you just wasted all that dry ice I can't even find a Ice cube sized chunk in the uk

[@THYZOID]

i have an entire factory nearby. the dry ice comes fresh out of the machine and costs only 1 euro a kilo.

[@TheMono25]

@@THYZOID I hate u lol ( just kidding) That's awesome, you're so lucky.

[@TheMono25]

My Wife Get it at work. It comes when they get a delivery That needs to be kept cold She works in a pharmacy dispensary. They have to pay to have it taken away For disposal She could quite easily. Give me some. But she Thinks it's too dangerous for me to play with pmsl

[@TheMono25]

I just want to make some dry ice hash

[@iamsonedisoncahaya4845]

Damn, that's must be cost you a lot since aluminum powder is expensive.

[@100-pc-notbot]

KMnO4 + a triol as the ingnighter?

[@deandeann1541]

May thermite be used to speed up the barbeque process? Can the radiant energy be harnessed to flash cook barbequed chicken? I believe this could lock in that chicken barbeque flavor without excessively drying the meat. I have not been able to find anyone with experience in thermite cooking or cuisine. I would like to obtain any relevant details for thermite cooking eg how deep should chicken be buried in thermite, what flavor of thermite is tastiest?

[@THYZOID]

your chicken will be completely burned on the outside while remaining basically uncooked on the inside

[@Linus-nq2op]

My theory is, that the hot metal and water result in an coulomb explosion. Similar to alkaline metals.

[@That_Chemist]

Terrifying

[@THYZOID]

Terrifying but mesmerising to watch

[@argoneum]

> Do NOT try this at home! How about outdoors then? 😸

[@erwinz5926]

seen a more awsome explosion when my chemistry teacher made simple ironoxide aluminum mix in a furnace. the furnace was washed and dried with a towel before the experiment... i remember a "soft" but effective explosion, spreading liquid lava in the classroom... everyone hiding behind the tables... : )))))) however. do not do such experiments in planes, crashing in skyscrapers.--

[@robertsmith4681]

Kind of makes me wonder if the resulting lumps of iron could be forged...

[@Resonanttheme]

There's this just adding molten salt to water. Also water to steam expansion ratio is 1600 times more volume. kzbin.info?search_query=molten+salt+explosion

[@EvocativeKitsune]

I haven't seen so much thermite since The Gayest Person on KZbin. It's glorious!

[@Abdcwyxz]

I saw a french guy doing the thermite on ice, and he foud little balls of metal with a hole.in them. They thought that water gets trapped in a blob of hot metal and blows up

[@Phosphoric1111]

Must have cost a lot. cool video tho :)

[@andie_pants]

Why can't I have cool neighbors like this?

[@Sleepy_zzzzz]

I love you

[@nielsschmidt5680]

There is also thermites that can detonate :D

[@Linus-nq2op]

When I hit aluminium foil on a rusty steel surface with a hammer, it exploded. I can't confirm it, but it really sounded like a detonation shockwave - although I managed to create a small shockwave just by hitting the hammer at the right angle.

[@gorgie739]

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