Top 5 VEHICLE Myths about driving your own vehicle around the world overland

[@johnnychen9897]

Sometimes we tend to forget that normal people live in these "exotic" places all over the world, it's their daily life, and they can get by driving their normal, basic vehicles just fine. Just take a gander of each country's national taxis if you need a good baseline of what you actually "need".

[@DaciaProject]

A stock Toyota 4x4 in low range on 31 inch All Terrains will go 99% of all places ANYONE will ever go.

[@Chicknontheroad]

I definitely agree. As long as you have a decent vehicle, no matter what it is, and maintain it properly, I think you’ll do fine. I’ve heard several people say, “... the best overlanding vehicle is the one you already own... “

[@Strawhatandacane]

I have " overlanded " 100s of miles in Death Valley National Park , on horrible rough roads in a 1999 Honda Accord and later a 2005 Toyota Camry. Carried 3 full size spare tires. Both cars did great.

[@clayton9549]

Couldn't agree more mate. I have owned a Jeep, Nissan, Toyota and Ford. Everyone of them did everything I normally do when adventuring. I remember my adventures more than the rig, though I do live building the rig! Cheers!

[@philiphannum4211]

This makes me feel so much better about my 2001 S-10 Chevy pickup. I could actually go somewhere with it. LOL!! Now, where to go? hmmmmm

[@TheWayISeeIt69]

I’ve taken my 99 stock f150 all over the place. No mods. Just good tires and and maintenance

[@NikkiTheOtter]

Yup. I've taken my Silverado 1500 and my brother's Jeep Renegade to all sorts of places. Just throw a come-along or manual winch in your bed and drive until you get stuck.

[@jatorresrv]

KISS! From > Keep It Simple Stupid > to > Keep It Simple & STOCKED! All common sense and well said. Thanks for sharing!

[@sweetsweet3753]

Great summary. i have done a 12k km road trip on 2nd hand 125cc motorbike thru Europe and 13k km 220cc around India. I have no need for speed as everything is new for me to look at.. 60-70km / hr quick enuff for me. and if the bike falls over i can pick it up.. and if it gets stolen well i am < usd1k down and i can always hitch a ride to the nearest bus/train station to continue my trip... keeping it simple reduces the overlanding stress and adds a load of fun factor..

[@ONeilYu]

"East African has been driven in a stretch-limousine" XD I want to see someone film that

[@next-horizon-overland]

Most points you mention are right but not the first one. A diesel vehicle with the Norm Euro 6 is defenatley you suitable for a world tour (actually already after Euro 4 it starts to be a problem). The diesel you get in Asia or Africa or South America is not suitable for such a vehicle and it will start to make problems or even stop to work. Sure, this concerns actually only vehicles bought in Europe. But this is a point which has to be considered otherwise you won't get far and the world tour is soon over ...

[@PaydayGabeBCNV]

💯% solid advice again. I've owned and driven a plethora of different vehicles in my life, some wonderful, others not so much. As you mentioned,, regular maintenance is key to a safe enjoyable stress free trip. And, " Less always equals More ". 🙏Safe travels and thank you for your wisdom. Cheers 🍻, G .

[@allalphazerobeta8643]

Crown Victoria with a rear locker kit, here I come world!

[@mugumyapaultheafricannomad9488]

I started out driving around Africa using a 2wd model 1997 Toyota Haice van. This year I realized the van was too huge and now I moved to a 2wd minivan Toyota ipsum. I realized it's all about a car that can run.... Perhaps people who think of vehicles much they copy rock crawlers not adventure goers. This topic comes in handy Dan, thank you.

[@richardtaylor7457]

Wise words as ever Dan. Thank you! You are the voice of experience who has walked the walk, or certainly driven it. It's all about the experience not the bling or the latest, biggest best etc. From on foot, cycling, motorbike, car, truck , 4x4 , boat or plane... travel, .it's all about the journey what ever people wish to label it. The world is an amazing place , full of life to interact with. Keep spreading the word. Have a great 2021 what ever it may result in. Bring me the horizon!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Thank you kindly

[@umcosta]

Maybe this is the most insperational overlanding video that i've seen.

[@EveryDayHoliDay]

In North Korea the internet doesn't work ;) But there no one goes with his own vehicle!. Kidding. :)) Thanks for the video!

[@dmwil1]

Thanks, Dan! We sit and dream about these adventures and imagine what is important and your videos often show how far off we are in what is and is not important! Your sharing of your vast experience is so deeply appreciated!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

My pleasure!

[@kisbushcraftdownunder]

I think many people spend years preparing for a big trip and overthink what they actually need and end up with a mini monster truck parked in the driveway most cars are designed to be reliable with strong enough drivetrains for the stock motor output

[@GrizzlyPath]

The ‘ol “analysis paralysis” or at least overthinking things. Easy to fall into that black hole, I know I’ve been guilty of it!

[@NikkiTheOtter]

My main reason for going the route of a near-monster truck is not because of overthinking what I need, but determining what luxuries I can't live without (Hot shower, Toilet, Air Conditioning) and building a vehicle that can handle that. (In practice, it's going to be a flatbed pickup with a camper on the back. Nothing as insanely large as the Earthroamer or any of those commercial expedition vehicles. Just a 3500 with as compact of living quarters as I can get, even with a wet-bath. And that will serve a dual-purpose. While it is unlikely to get stolen in OTHER countries, the first leg of my global journey is going to be entirely in my own country. Flatbed trucks stand out, as do campers. And a camper that can't be removed from the bed without a crane and tools, is going to be far less likely to be stolen.

[@RobertVinet]

Thank you for doing this video Dan. Despite what has become popular these days, it's not about the vehicle. Almost anyone, with the right frame of mind, can drive around the world. Here are a couple more of examples » In 2011 three guys in their 20's set out in an old 1992 London Taxi they found on eBay with 500,000 km around the world. Their journey took them across four continents and 50 countries over 15 months and 69,720 km (~ 43,320 miles). They had many breakdowns, but I'm sure a lifetime of stories to tell. From 2014 to 2017 Heidi Hetzer circumnavigating the world in her 1930 Hudson Greater Eight. She did it solo. She was 79 years old when she finished her world tour. She passed away a couple of years later.

[@TylerMillieWood]

Really enjoy these videos! Wife and I want to do a overland trip through Europe and Asia in a few years and watching these videos eases my worries!

[@VCV_Travel]

Thank you for sharing. I'm from Brazil, and I have the plan to overland in Africa. I'll buy the book.

[@GATORADDAM]

Yes. I am one of those Toyota guys that's gonna razz you! Hahaha. I must say though .... For someone who says the vehicle doesn't matter you sure put together one pretty sophisticated highly equipped vehicle!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

For Africa I certainly built a good vehicle, though remember I did nothing to the vehicle itself, I just added creature comforts. For Alaska to Argentina I drove a bone stock little Jeep. It cost $5k. I sold it in Argentina for $5k. Winning!

[@jacktyler7599]

Totally agree, Dan. You briefly mentioned getting support from 'back home' and the necessity or workarounds of that issue might make a good topic. E.g. we experienced a frozen USA engine in Portugal, registered IRS letters piling up back home while in Malta, and a U.S. Postal Service box with critical equipment we needed had gone missing when we reached Pago Pago in American Samoa. All those benefitted by some kind of home-based support...but not everyone we met is so encumbered by the complexities of life. Mail? Filing tax returns? Annual vehicle registration? Meds not locally available? What did you learn from others about benefiting by/coping without home base support?

[@cameronwood1994]

What's most important is that Dan still has his Kenyan insurance sticker in the windscreen, just like me!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

My Zambian one fell recently.. but I kept it in the hopes I can stick it back on!!

[@cameronwood1994]

@@TheRoadChoseMe I still have mine from Zambia and Tanzania. Must admit, my windscreen is so tiny, the passenger can't see out now!

[@explor360]

Once again Dan shows he has more common sense than just about anyone in the Overland community. Having gone on expeditions from Alaska to Namibia I completely agree with everything he says. Thanks Dan!

[@thomasmullins1783]

If you feel like you need more power, re-gear your diffs first. That's a quick way to add more low rpm torque (or high rpm if that's what you need, depending on how tall/short your gears need to be) and it won't put much stress on the engine and transmission like a super charger or custom tune will

[@guidok3762]

Thanks for the video, after seen all your video’s I am ready to drive around the world 👍👌

[@Onward4x4]

As always-a set of solid authentic objective and practical advice. Thank you!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Glad it was helpful!

[@calsurflance5598]

Keep it simple , keep it stock, it the absolute best advice when it comes to reliability and longevity. I heard it said once , that if there is someplace you can’t get to in a stock Rubicon, you probably don’t need to go there. Listening to your real world advice is far more prudent than letting a salesperson sell you $15,000, worth of upgrades you will never need. Safe travels!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Well said!

[@c_hanley]

2:02 Fear and Loathing in East Africa Imagine being a giraffe and your first encounter with humanity and technology is some mad lad driving through your watering hole in a stretch limo

[@wildcatoutdoors]

Can't wait for some adventure videos! Love your practical style and applications.

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

We're back in lockdown here... but hopefully next year another BIG adventure is coming!

[@blythg1394]

I rode around SE Asia on a 155cc motorbike, so a rusty Subaru would have been a major upgrade.

[@marcohenar2516]

Dan, your comment in a previous video about diesel and gasoline is valid: gasoline engines are more tolerant of impurities

[@thejackofalltravels8267]

Can’t wait to see where you go next have a great adventure and tell me all about it

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

I will be documenting the whole thing here for sure! All the planning, prep, vehicle build, route planning, etc. etc. ! Coming in 2021 (fingers crossed)

[@henrycolestage7650]

The best vehicle to start overlanding in is...(drum roll please!); the one you have. Just like Dan's little 4cyl Jeep or whatever it is you drive. Once you are out there, you will find the things you like and don't like, things you need and the things you don't. The MOST important thing (to me anyway) is mechanical reliability and/or the ability to fix it yourself. See you out there,

[@markuffindell]

Once again you are bringing us down to earth. Thanks Dan.

[@andredupuis5432]

Binge watching over Xmas break! Great job myth busting Dan. Cheers

[@vvk]

Dan, not to play the Devil's advocate but I would like to see a video where you discuss the disadvantages of overlanding. I understand it is difficult for the believer to speak against his or her own fate but if you can do it it would make your arguments much more convincing. Let me share my experience to hopefully make it more clear what I mean. 1) Is Overlanding mostly for people who have a lot of free time? In our busy world it is difficult to always find friends to join you for adventures so when I was single I liked to join adventure travel groups for climbing, skiing, snowshoeing, biking etc. The more the merrier as they say. So I would be curious to hear your arguments for going Overlanding with your own car for shorter let's say up to a month adventures vs. joining a group, hiring a car locally and staying in hotels. 2) Depending on the goal using your own vehicle may be pointless. For example, you can't take your car skiing or trail running (In Tanzania it took me more than a week to climb Kilimanjaro, similarly about 10 days walking the Alps etc. The idea is a car may be a burden because you can't leave it it is almost like turning yourself into a snail that carries it's own house. So if the argument is you need a personal vehicle to reach certain parts of country X , my counter argument is that in over 50 countries I have always been able to hire a car or guide + car ( to get to the trail). So you have to give me some specific examples. So in short I hope in the video you can discuss who is Overlanding for and who should avoid it like a plague :)

[@lrworkshop]

I'm glad someone wrote this!

[@therobertsfamily9611]

When he made a "whole video" about mistakes he made on his build (first and only build, mind you), and the only thing he would change is his high lift. What a joke. It is amusing though to see him pretend to be an error free, ultimate overlander. I guess it is the "brand" he is trying to establish but it completely destroys any credibility.

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

@Col. Overlander - I also said I made a mistake on the suspension, I also said I made a mistake that it's too heavy. I've said many times I made a mistake when I rolled the Jeep in Uganda. In multiple videos I've said I poured a ton of time and money into the diesel swap that was a HUGE mistake. Trust me, I've made a TON of mistakes, and I would never pretend to be error free. I hope others can learn from my mistakes so they don't have to learn the hard way, which is why I talk about them so often.

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

@vvk - great idea, thanks. I will certainly do that, and you're absolutely right that overlanding is not for everyone and it's not for every situation! Like everything, there are pros and cons!

[@stout_tossme7541]

@@therobertsfamily9611 do you have counter-arguments to his claims? He does have a brand to push, we all do, but calling him a joke without any facts to back it up is a bigger joke. However, you are probably a troll and have nothing to offer to the conversation.

If it drives you to where you want to go, then the vehicle qualifies as perfect for your trip. Use it until you find somewhere where it will no go, you'll probably can get there by walking some km . Until that happens more than you wish you wont need to worry about finding a better vehicle.

[@ralphbernhard1757]

A 4x4 is a big advantage because they have high-clearance, much more important than the offroad capability.

[@Furniture121]

When I lived in Winnipeg the most stolen car was the Honda Civic. It was extremely common, so easy to strip for parts, and wouldn't get you noticed when driving.

[@aasphaltmueller5178]

ever heard of the "Plymouth - Dakar " Rally - from Plymouth in UK to Banjul in Gambia ? Vehicles to be bought for the Rally for max. 500 GBP or such. In Banjul the Vehicles were auctioned off for Charity. Germans copied it with the "Allgäu - Amman" From Bavaria to Jordania. Me, I drove 1989 from Austria to Mali, over Spain and the Hoggar in a stock 1975 VW Van, and 1991 in a stock Peugeot sedan. Help from Locals and Travellers in the Dunes was appreciated, but it did work.

[@joelletendre1011]

I think possibly one of the best videos yet Dan. Best advice for first time overlanders/travelers. Our first trip from Northern Canada to Mexico was in our BMW 3 series sedan. It did just fine in the deserts. For us now though, our vehicle is not a tool, it is family. We need to have a connection to our vehicle. We have owned Dodges, Chevrolets, Jeeps, Bmws, Jaguars etc. Nothing connected with us like our Land Rovers. We name our vehicles, and they become our family. We own acreage and I still have my original 1954 Land Rover and 1946 Jeep CJ2A from when I was teenager. We have sold many collectable vehicles that we didn't feel a connection to. Porsche is one that comes to mind. Amazing cars, amazing handling, no emotional connection for us. Toyotas are arguably THE most reliable vehicles made. Would I own one? Never. They are way to bland for us, with zero road feedback and no emotional connection.(As much as 30 years repairing vehicles wants to argue with my other self). When it comes to theft, talk to a local auto technician(mechanic). Get him to show you simple things like a fuse, or plug in that can be disconnected to disable the vehicle.

[@overlandsally]

My daily driver is a nissan pathfinder 2002 and its my overland vehicule. I have travel all around Colombia

[@stout_tossme7541]

Absolutely. I can not agree with you more. You don't need a 100k rig to go out and explore.

[@cayman9873]

Getting your vehicle in great condition before you start would be my priority. And i would want something big enough to sleep in. Toyota sequoia or land cruiser or 4 runner would be great. A subaru outback works.

[@yaroslavkrymov9955]

People drive cheap 500 euro cars from Europe to Mongolia every year. Google it, Mongolia rally. Good video Dan.

[@philjachowski1709]

Well said!

[@slowboat6021]

thanks Dan, so much sensible advice

[@IbericaOverland]

I totally agree with you, my best adventures have been with rentals actually

[@lrworkshop]

If you hear a rattle, just turn the radio up

[@failranch9542]

A rental can actually make it to places where Dan fears to take his Rubicon

[@ryansuriol2808]

As always, nice video Dan!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Thanks again!

[@DavidMSA]

Merry Christmas

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Same to you!

[@10digittrading]

Point 4. Foreign vehicles being stolen in Southern Africa is real, except left hand drives. Top on the list of cars stolen in SA are the Toyota Hi -Lux, Land Cruiser and Fortuner. Parking the vehicle in a remote place is risky. The point is you need to be aware, on the flip side Africa has some awesome places to go, where it's absolutely safe!

[@MKwan82]

You missed key exceptions. Lambos, Ferraris, Maserati and Aston Martin. That low ground clearance would kill the car on the gravel road, now imagine the rocky ones in Africa. Granted you can lift your exotics and put undercarriage guards in there but bone stock Lambos would be a bad idea

[@ethanwong9950]

Another question I have is a bit personal, but how do you manage relationships during a big road trip? Both with people who travel with you and people who await your return?

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

That is a big topic, and actually there are chapters in each of my books about exactly that. I'll do a video on it at some point too!

[@daveybernard1056]

nice reality check

[@christophermartinez5314]

Awesome video

[@seantowlson7051]

Whats with the Subaru on your jersey? Something we should know Dan?

[@stephenmayeske7792]

Such good advice.

[@yorkchris10]

I think Lyndon Poskitt had problems with DHL in a couple of countries. "Nora" made a YT video on all the popular routes for overland. The actual mileage in non-developed areas is probably less. Without incident, you'd go developed-to-developed with a few oil changes.

[@rblbatb]

I am starting to think a toyota minivan and a good tent is all I really need.

[@davidhays7749]

Well put, I've had some wonderful adventures in cars that were bog standard. If you need further proof of this, I'd highly recommend the Ed March KZbin channel. He's been all over the planet on a Honda 90cc cub.

[@robertvoss9111]

Did you earn any money on the road on your trips? If so how do know which job is good, wages etc. Might be a good video idea 🤔

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Absolutely, I can do a video on that soon!

[@questioner1596]

The main concern for me is whether the vehicle you're driving is reliable, whether it's easily serviced and whether parts are available. For this reason, I would avoid a vehicle such as the W8 VW Passat or 6.0L Ford Super Duty diesel because they are difficult to service and less reliable.

[@p.antoniocasasph.d.8802]

Sir, Absolutely great video with superb real world experience and information. Question regarding myth #1 and your vehicle safety video as it pertains to my way ahead to travel the world. In your opinion, is a newer Land Cruiser 200 series to much of an attention getter to the degree that it may compromise safety? Your thoughts are deeply appreciated. Gracias!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

No, not at all. There are TONS of 200 series getting around in Africa. How you treat people will have a MUCH Bigger impact on how they treat you than the vehicle you're driving.

[@p.antoniocasasph.d.8802]

Sir, Thank you! I definitely appreciate your thoughts and recommendations. Gracias!

[@dzheyd9609]

What about vans for overlanding? May be old ford econoline 4x4 conversions or toyota hiace? And what about vw t4?

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Absolutely, plenty of people are using them these days and they do great!

[@andywt8460]

As Dan says “you don’t need a 4x4” a T4 is a bit of an oddball to go around the world as they weren’t available is some countries notably North America only a small number of Wanabgo built campers, in South America and South Africa the old rear engine VW was produced long after Europe stopped production. If a T4 is your flavor OK, the last was produced in 2003, I have a 2000 2.5 Tdi Westi, at my age I’m unlikely to go so far but would I take it, yes but there are some down sides, although the T4 is one of the toughest van out there I would avoid 5 cylinder engines (its actually an Audi engine) as was only used in the T4 and a few Volvo’s and Audi 100, a 4 cylinder is fine just about every pre 2004 will fit and/or parts are available. (A 4 cyl will not mount to a later 5 cyl gearbox). But being sensible if you want to take a van, get a rear wheel drive Toyota they are everywhere, do not get a FWD Toyota van. That being said I would still take my T4 5 cyl, it’s a bit like having an old dog, that 5 cyl make weird noises and growls at you, it’s my part time home and after 30 years at the heavy end of VW’s empire as mechanic/engineer/bush mechanic, it feels like home.

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

A T4 is actually a great choice to go around the world, plenty of people have done it. North America is such a tiny and easy part of the world puzzle. With great infrastructure and logistics, it will be by far and away the easiest place to have parts sent if really needed.

[@andywt8460]

@@TheRoadChoseMe Hi Dan, can agree with you to a point if they are pre-electronic ie 1995/6, problem is VW and Bosch have stopped producing many of the electronic components and are very difficult to find and many of the knockoff parts are very poor, this will becoming relevant to many of today’s vehicles, having spent half of my 68 years traveling in many ways, from the UK to OZ & NZ with 16 years in Southeast Asia have seen many poor souls on the road, anything metal can be repaired and have been training local mechanics in many interesting places, have seen some amazing illiterate mechanics who can work miracles. But things come to a stop when electronics are involved, a code reader is insufficient many times requiring full on factory diagnostics, you can’t setup injection timing if you break a belt on a pre 2003 VW Tdi as it’s dynamic timing ie running, without dealer/factory level diagnostics if lucky you might get it to run badly. Not being negative as many have no problems, it’s the big rigs that have the most problems having rescued a few, euro 4,5 & 6 fuel systems are killed by high sulfur diesel, we used to ship a lot of secondhand heavy trucks from Europe, we had to downgrade all of them to euro 3 to avoid expensive failures. On the big rigs there is no code readers and you could wait days for someone like me to turn up, was not uncommon before I retired to have to take a flight 2-3 hours & 4 hours in a pickup just to sort a simple electronic problem. Just don’t bother coming with a common rail diesel.

[@NigelNaughton]

Well, the vehicle doesn't have to be the focal point of the conversations but that's the point of having a reliable vehicle.. (Toyota Land Cruiser..hehe)...so you barely worry about it and the 99% of the time is spent soaking in all the experiences. No doubt about it that if things constantly go wrong you will NOT be having a good time.

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

It was always easy to spot the Land Rover drivers... every time I pulled into a campsite or game reserve they would come running over and say "Where the hell do you get parts for THAT?". !

[@manimalworks7424]

Another great video! Thanks!

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cayman9873]

I would want a large 4x4 toyota. 15 years old.. and manual if possible

[@ReduxGarage]

Another "Stop the BS" video. Dan for Prime Minister!

[@ralphbernhard1757]

Unless you have a limitless budget, you need a reliable vehicle that the local low-tech mechanics can fix cheaply, plus a model that has readily available spare parts all over the world. As few technical gadgets as possible.

[@wolfgangwust5883]

I totally agree. No bling-bling. Plus said vehicles are surprisingly cheap.

[@stout_tossme7541]

Wait, so my heated seats are bad? Just kidding. I actually do not have heated seats. Lol. The main reason I went with a 4 runner (here in the states). I did not want all the bells and whistles but wanted the reliability and well built rig.

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

I actually have heated seats in my Jeep - least used feature in Africa, let me assure you!

[@stout_tossme7541]

@@TheRoadChoseMe hahaha.

[@dsego84]

westfalia ftw!

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

common size tires ,

[@1988texasaggie]

How did you arrange to receive the packages from RockAuto, etc.? Did you have them sent to 'the next town' or did you stay put until they made it to you? I've had friends hike the Appalachian Trail and there are certain 'mail stops' that they can have things sent ahead to. Are there things like that or do you totally depend on having the package sent to an address you are waiting at when you place the order?

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

Usually I get it sent ahead. I just look in iOverlander for a likely place, then contact them and ask if it's OK to have something sent there. It has always been no problem.

[@bernardinolagasca1153]

Any vehicle will do if there's a road underneath you. Offroad is another story.

[@jeremy8715]

Yours was the 2.5L, 120ish HP

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

When it was new, but I bet a few of those horses had escaped by the time I hit the andes, and driving at ~12,00ft reduced the power A LOT!

[@erichughes9098]

A few years ago I watched a thing on the second running of the Peking to Paris Road rally the vehicles involved had to be over 20 years old stock vehicle. They had a 32 Ford car that’s known for running moonshine. They had a Rolls-Royce that the queen of England had used in Australia. They had a Camaro but the one that want it was a World War II Willys/Ford Jeep. This would prove your point that if you wanted to overland anywhere in the world The vehicle choice is not that important.😎👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aniZlayleLBqfq8

[@yak.adventure3347]

Expedition & overland in Iran

[@dAg-1-2-3]

Done 40 countries in old beat vans.....tell me more about your 1k shovel lol

[@christophermartinez5314]

✌️✌️✌️

[@adelarsen9776]

1) You're supposed to visit monuments - not drive one. 2) The presenter obviously thinks things through unlike most people who live in a Copy and Paste bubble and just buy what all the others have. 3) One pertinent point the presenter made was about how it's not about the vehicle. Most of the gherkin stroking grand edifice builders only transport their Red Arc Espresso machine 200km and then spend their time around the camp site playing confirmation bias games with like-minded dull twits.

[@MKwan82]

Exactly. I hate American made for that poor reliability. I would much rather be in a Toyota hilux ISIS truck or a lifted Subaru Wrx. At least I know I won't be stuck with hungry tiger in the middle of Africa. Minimalism = Honda fit lifted with undercarriage guard. Probably cheaper than his set up.

[@jeremy8715]

4th comment

[@TheRoadChoseMe]

O so close!

[@carghai9235]

second comment!