Diagnosing Chevy Corvette That Stalls Out But Has No Codes

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@scrappy7571
@scrappy7571 Жыл бұрын
That's a great diagnosis. But the problem is how do you get paid? This industry rewards ignorance and stupidity. If I told the service manager that I need 4 or 5 hours diag time (@ $200.00 per hour) he would get another tech to fire the parts cannon. Managers love it, the mark up on parts along with labor to install. Not a care in the world if the problem is solved. I've been in dealers for 48 yrs, and each one is the same.
@rodvan-zeller6360
@rodvan-zeller6360 6 ай бұрын
Diagnostic techs hurt the financial bottom line, that is why we are frowned upon. I think the way this man and many others who are very good at diagnosing and have very good equipment get paid by having a successful you tube channel, and they work for themselves. A half hour video means many hours before editing, how much do you think the Corvette owner was charged? Do you think he was charged for every hour this man spent on it? Not to mention how many hours of studying, research and investment on equipment. With all that said, I am very thank full for this you tube channel and others like it. These guys are very good at what they do, and help many of us furthering our knowledge.
@scrappy7571
@scrappy7571 6 ай бұрын
@@rodvan-zeller6360 Guess I should start a utube channel, just so I can get paid to diagnose vehicles. My boss sure isn't go to pay us. We only get paid to install parts. More parts, more pay even if it does not fix the problem. It's the life of flat rate.
@rodvan-zeller6360
@rodvan-zeller6360 6 ай бұрын
@@scrappy7571 Flat rape. Most places only pay for manual labor, not brain labor.
@johnnysprocketz
@johnnysprocketz 4 ай бұрын
Replace dont chase
@alfee9411
@alfee9411 4 ай бұрын
​@@rodvan-zeller6360 As with most of us who do it daily, we usually bill 50% of our diagnosis time to be fair! Lots of distractions etc
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals Жыл бұрын
Great job! I think the hardest part of analyzing scope patterns is knowing what looks valid and what doesn't look valid, especially if you are in a shop that works on every make and model.
@ryan.mullen
@ryan.mullen Жыл бұрын
That scope is incredible. My dream tool. Great video. You guys are next level. Professor is an incredible teacher. And shout out to the camera man. 😂👍
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
There are quite affordable automotive 8 channel scopes available. From $€ 125
@gfbemc0256
@gfbemc0256 Жыл бұрын
Who make 8-channel scopes & what are the pros & cons of each?
@ryan.mullen
@ryan.mullen Жыл бұрын
@@gfbemc0256 this scope is an ATS eScope elite8. It’s top of the line but it’s expensive.
@doomkid02
@doomkid02 11 ай бұрын
​@@Conservator.Like which brands?
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 11 ай бұрын
@@doomkid02 just search “8 channel scope” to find brands and prices.
@johnnigro4536
@johnnigro4536 Жыл бұрын
How squeeze years of knowledge, experience and butt kickings into a 35 minute video!
@davechan5159
@davechan5159 11 ай бұрын
The importance of using an oscilloscope is vital - as demonstrated here fully. Just today I got off the phone with a potential employer - Honda dealer , their position on scopes is “We haven’t used those for years, we use scan tool data” - I thanked them for their time. Keep up the good work fellas!!
@deerhunter8533
@deerhunter8533 6 ай бұрын
Dealers don’t diagnose cars. They do the parts cannon approach to repair
@troywilliams2630
@troywilliams2630 2 ай бұрын
You my friend need to do training. You are very articulate and have a calm voice and the knowledge to train people . I worked almost 40 years as a truck mechanic.. I've Ben to Cummins, Cat and some Detroit electronics schools . But your computer and reader skill is awesome .love to watch and gain more knowledge. Knowledge is power, your pretty powerful .
@Illusivegaming
@Illusivegaming Жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from watching your videos. Thank you so much. I've been a mechanic for about 4 years now, but im starting to want to get more into the deep diagnostic side of things with scopes and reprogram and flashing awsome awsome video blessings and shout out to your boy the camera guy 🙌
@flycatchful
@flycatchful Ай бұрын
Having the right tools is one thing but knowing how to use them is another.
@johnboutsikos6049
@johnboutsikos6049 11 ай бұрын
As usual a superb presentation with a step-by-step elimination of all possible causes , enjoy watching and learning even at my age 😊
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
I’m 24 minutes in and I’m getting impatient 😁 but I shouldn’t because you are showing us your diagnosis process of excluding one component after another instead of just showing the cause of the issue. This is much more informational and valuable and it’s why I like watching your videos so much! Thanks! Happy holidays!
@windward2818
@windward2818 Жыл бұрын
The microcontroller clock is usually very robust and not a common exception reset source. There are many other reset sources that are much more likely to cause a ECM strategy reset, for example a faulty power supply or brown out event. It is clear from the scope trace that the ECM reset and batch fired all of the injectors at once, which means they overlap (occur at the same time). There are other indicators of ECM reset. One would be a freeze on real time data from a scan tool. Meaning if a scan tool was set up to get periodic real time data from the ECM it would show that when the car shut down the communication also stopped.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals Жыл бұрын
That depends on how long the reset occurs if your scan tool freezes or not. I had a Jeep Commander with the same issue as this one with a stumble and intermittent stall, but it was caused by the failure of the PCM's flyback zeners for the ignition coils. The zeners wouldn't clip off the flyback intermittently and cause the excessive flyback to reset the controller. I had a Autel Elite scan tool connected watching data and it never stopped updating during the events.
@windward2818
@windward2818 11 ай бұрын
This may be tool or network dependent, I have a MaxiSYS MS909. Your Jeep may use a gateway to the PCM (Chrysler was one of the first to use a OBD II gateway), which would be different than the Chevy in the video, which has an OBDII powertrain high speed CAN bus directly available at the DLC. When your jeep reset did you see any data PID dropouts that would indicate the module reset? I am not sure of what type of ignition system your jeep has, but if it is coil on plug with the ignition amps (no smart coils) in the module then the driver is a protected IGBT, with uses an active clamp internal to the device to clip the flyback pulse (at around 430 Volts) at the ignition output. I have never seen a separate flyback Zener used to clip flyback energy. But I have not worked on a Jeep Commander. When the Chevy Corvette ECM resets you will lose both fuel and spark at the same time depending on how the pulse processor enters its reset state. You should be able to see a simultaneous failure caused by a module warm boot (microcontroller reset) in a number of ways. For example monitoring cylinder #1 injector and cylinder #2 ignition pulse (the corvette has smart coils). Both will drop out at about the same time and then reappear at about the same time. You really don't need eight channels in my opinion to spot an ECM reset. The reason the vehicle hiccups is the ECM reset time (boot time) is very fast probably under 100ms, meaning the vehicle may or may not actually stall at idle. @@Discretesignals
@windward2818
@windward2818 11 ай бұрын
In the case of the Chevy Corvette the only bank fired port injection (high impedance) engine family is the L98 C4 (excluding the ZR1) which was superseded by the LT1 in 1992 which had sequential fuel injection using high impedance injectors. With the L98 all injectors fire at once. Although, there are actually two fuel injector output pins one for the left bank and one for the right, both originate from the same power driver within the PCM. If you look at a 1990 Ford Mustang, for example, it had sequential port fuel injection using high impedance injectors. I don't think I have ever seen port peak and hold fuel injection on domestic vehicles, just with throttle body injection, which used two injectors.@kafax123
@shaffere33
@shaffere33 11 ай бұрын
How much time in testing did you have for an issue like this?
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 11 ай бұрын
@@windward2818 It was a 2007 Commander with a 4.7L that I had diagnosed about 10 years ago. It does use a gateway module (the front control module) between the DLC and the network. I honestly don't remember if any PIDs were dropping out, but communications never was lost. I still have the scope captures and its coils' flyback was over 400 volts. If my scope wasn't attenuated, it would have blown the front end right off it. I figured out it was resetting or halting because the NGC was tripping the ASD relay right after a coil kickback event. That is when I focused on coil primaries. It uses two wire ignition coils and the coil drivers and suppression diodes are in the NGC. To be honest I am not sure how the spikes are clamped inside the NGC, so I'm guessing a zener or some form of suppression is used. I didn't realize the kick back voltage was abnormal until after all other possibilities were exhausted and I replaced the NGC. I even replaced all coils and plugs with dealer parts before condemning the NGC because for sure I thought it was an inductive kick issue. When I replaced the NGC it fixed the problem. I rescoped and found that normal flyback was suppressed to around 280 volts. That is why interpretting waveforms is difficult if you don't know what is good and what is bad. Interpreting comes with experience and sometimes that can get expensive or time consuming unless you have a known good vehicle to compare to. The reset time was 250 microsecs. I agree, you surely don't need 8 channels to see a reset. I wonder if this year Vette uses a batch fire strategy during first start and goes straight to sequential firing? Good luck finding that in service data. By the way, happy holidays.
@edlopz1722
@edlopz1722 Жыл бұрын
Video of the year, good video to wrap up the year with. Thanks for all details and tips. BTW, the camera man, AKA your son. does an outstanding job filming and zooming in so close to show us everything. Thanks both.
@danabbene6507
@danabbene6507 11 ай бұрын
That is outstanding troubleshooting. Narrow down the problem and isolate the issue instead of shotgunning. I did much of the same when diagnosing networking issues.
@arthuraucar3696
@arthuraucar3696 Жыл бұрын
That's a hard one for a lot of top notch techs.! Great find.! Congratulations..!
@milehigh3054
@milehigh3054 11 ай бұрын
What you're explaining here is 100% spot on what is happening to my 2005 Dodge Ram 1500. I don't have a scope. I've been thinking for awhile, it's my PCM. I think I'm going to just take a shot in the dark. And change it. It runs for 5 mins-10 mins and shuts off. Happens while driving as well. It will buck and keep going. Gets slightly better as it warms up. I've also noticed it charges over normal. Which is not normal. Changed crank sensor, plugs, wires, coils, checked everything. Still stalls just like that corvette. I think the voltage regulators in the PCM is going bad. My PCM is around $300. Think I'm going to change it.
@JamesSmith-xs7sr
@JamesSmith-xs7sr Ай бұрын
Wiggle the pcm harness connector at the pcm. I've repaired a few with that issue. Engine running, lightly push up/down on the connector & the engine would shut off.
@milehigh3054
@milehigh3054 Ай бұрын
@JamesSmith-xs7sr I replaced the pcm. The problem went away completely for 9 months and going now.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
29:06 I‘d love to know that saying! 😁 30:50 I’m here for the camera work! 👍😁 33:38 Yes, you definitely need a scope for the less obvious faults. You also need capable technicians who know and understand how to use them.
@jeffgoetz7919
@jeffgoetz7919 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for actually diagnosing the issue and proving the problem. Not many technicians do! I’ve been watching a lot of Bernie Thompson’s videos and will now be watching yours, too.
@geraldfiorello6231
@geraldfiorello6231 11 ай бұрын
Glad you were able to diagnose the problem. Great work great video.
@ICONBADGTA
@ICONBADGTA Жыл бұрын
Had a similar scenario on a OBD 1 TPI 7730 setup.... Gm 350CI engine, Gm Fastburn heads and LT4 Hotcam, GM sold it under the "ZZ430" crate engine... Once the car was being tuned properly and the AFR ratios being dialed in via VE Tables to properly reflect the modifications made, it suddenly out of nowhere developed this rare "TIP IN" dying out situation like the Vette in this video.... You could start it and leave it in P/N and rev it, or idle all day long until it drained the gas tank dry..... But soon as it went in gear, 50% of the time it would sputtered out...... Worse part is it wouldn't throw a code that stayed due to engine quitting each time having to restart... Would start back perfect and idle every time! It finally took doing a data-log and watching it via playback to see what was happening... Code 33 would flash for a split second (CODE 33 = HIGH MAP) reading and the engine would go crazy when it would happen even though it was just a split second event. Once MAX MAP was set from (67 KPA to 80 KPA ) due to overlap of cam, (PROBLEM SOLVED)! Never had that issue again.,.. So whenever you install a cam with overlap or that can cause less vacuum at certain spots, be sure the settings in the ECM are changed to compensate it. But none the less, it took a logger like this to find it... Anyone can be a "PARTS CHANGER", and keep throwing parts at something, then still have the issue... A real "MECHANIC" properly diagnoses the problem, figures it out, then fixes it for good or tries to..
@jonathanrees3765
@jonathanrees3765 11 ай бұрын
Highly unlikely crank or cam sensor could reset the ecu, both low power 5 or 12 volt reference, hall effect (magnetic) - so very little ability to spike anything. 3 common faults with electronics especially at this age are: Faulty capacitor(s) (not usually an issue in automotive electronics) , weak component (often from static damage - which can occur early in life but show up much later) or most likely a dry solder joint. Solder is basically crystalline, oxidation forms along the lattice structure causing bad joints - or just badly soldered to start with. Temperature cycles put stress on the solder joints over time. Holden VN V6s had common failures of ECMs at 160K Kms/100K miles. Resolder was an easy fix. Worth a visual inspection of ECU connectors and board - and using a soldering iron (proper electronics one) on and any (or just all) even slightly dodgy looking joins.
@toms66gtstang
@toms66gtstang Жыл бұрын
What a great video, showing how you can use a scope, with a step by step diag plan, to exclude or confirm each component that could cause the issue. Very informative! Unfortunately my Hantek 8 ch scope doesn't have anywhere near the same specs & features as your AES wave scope. But I don't actually wrench for a living, so it fits my needs. I'm an internal service "advisor", but I have a lot of old school experience & doing all I can to learn the new tech, so I can try to help out my young, inexperienced guys.
@acmenditto
@acmenditto Жыл бұрын
I had a 2007 with 39k come in my shop with this problem. Lucky it had a code complaining about a internal module failure. I replaced the battery and module. Nice work with that scope!
@elias8654
@elias8654 Жыл бұрын
I've been dealing with a similar problem with a Pontiac 1996. But this one is double firing injectors. Cam and Crack signals good. Pwr grd good. We called it a pcm. Customer is waiting till after the holidays. So hopefully that is it. But you are right like barnie said need more channels in the scope. Specially me with a 4 channel.
@robertjohnson4401
@robertjohnson4401 2 ай бұрын
An expert on diagnosis with a scope and a top of the line scope. A pleasure to try to soak up the knowledge.
@steveanderson4553
@steveanderson4553 11 ай бұрын
Great job! The scope doesn’t lie.
@astrotwo
@astrotwo 2 ай бұрын
True diagnostics on display. This is how you build a great customer base. Great video!!
@davidjackson4112
@davidjackson4112 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sherwood for this valuable information on diagnostic every aspect of this vehicle.
@jessemackenzie6516
@jessemackenzie6516 Жыл бұрын
I love the Hz plot feature... Great video
@mariob1653
@mariob1653 11 ай бұрын
Good call,I also check 5v reference when having a ecm reset
@unkleeyerose
@unkleeyerose 2 ай бұрын
You are like the Bob Ross of engine diagnostics.
@GearJamminHank
@GearJamminHank 6 ай бұрын
10:46 I had a Super Trooper moment! Mac: "What about that little fella?" Thorn: "OH, that little guy, I wouldn't worry about that little guy". Man I enjoyed that movie! 😂
@DJ-tn7vj
@DJ-tn7vj Жыл бұрын
ATS escope 8 channel is On my 2024 wish list for sure
@shakeelsss
@shakeelsss Жыл бұрын
Bernie Thompson yourself in 2024. If you could get it from G. It would cost you less than $6,000. Happy Holidays seasons
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals Жыл бұрын
just sitting here thinking of other tests you could do to to eliminate what is causing a reset condition. Could you run a bi directional test, such as commanding the purge valve duty cycle, lets say 50%, with the KOEO. That's as long as the bidirectional test doesn't have a timer. Watch the purge valve signal at the valve itself using your scope. If a reset occurs, you should see the purge valve command signal drop off. If it drops out, you just eliminated coil spikes, excessive AC ripple, CMP/CKP glitches, etc.
@n.elliott9122
@n.elliott9122 5 ай бұрын
The best channel for transparency and diagnostics. Anyone can change a part but proper diagnosis ability wins the race. Excellent channel! I`ll recommend it to all my moto people.
@AAB371
@AAB371 Жыл бұрын
Good job Sherwood. I remember back in the OBD1 days with GM ECMs and their failure prone issues, we would give the ECM a few light raps with a screwdriver handle and get them to cause stumbling/stalling issues. Wonder if this might have helped identify the PCM as the issue?
@billsmith2212
@billsmith2212 Жыл бұрын
Had that on a 1989 Regal with a reman Delco unit . Get it hot and it shut off . Spank the heck out of the ECM and it stumbled and shut off . IDIOT shop has put complete exhaust , CAT , coils and plugs !
@theroyaltyautoservice
@theroyaltyautoservice Жыл бұрын
The old "Tap Test". Did it many times. Doesn't really work on modern modules. The reason it worked back in the day was the problem in the module was usually a connection issue (solder joint). If I knew then what I know now we could have probably fixed them rather then replace them. Except for the GMs that the board would crack.
@anthonyiannone7618
@anthonyiannone7618 Жыл бұрын
Great job , I agree with your diagnosis procedure / process 100 percent . I watch Ivan, scanner danner, Eric o Bernie ect.. all work logically and decisively . I understand this part , i have been doing this type of work in a different industry for many years , automotive repair as a hobby. What i would like to know is how do you charge for a job like this? Thousands of dollars worth of test gear , hundreds tied up in software subscriptions for wiring diagrams and specs and hours and hours of diag time. Thanks for any incite
@RileyPowersports
@RileyPowersports 11 ай бұрын
Most shops bill their hourly rate for diagnostics. I coordinate and communicate service for a living and diagnostic communication about complexity and cost is one of the more difficult parts of the job. Give or take your area that hourly rate for a high quality shop capable of this level is nearing $200 an hour. At the end of the day diagnostics are not normally where a shop makes money. A lot of diagnostic time is given away for a variety of reasons and even if you bill for all your diagnostic time you could have been knocking out three brake/fluid services making more money with easier work. There are exceptions to this but, as a whole, shops are just looking to cover their time in it and move on to solving the problem and selling more work.
@scottnusser6232
@scottnusser6232 11 ай бұрын
Been a one man band shop owner for 40 yrs. Hear me out haters, so you have at least 4-6 hrs. proving a bad pcm, then putting on a junkyard unit? I say check powers, grounds and load the cannon. Most times you have pattern failures that will save a lot of time. Yeah prove the crank and cam signals, maybe replace them with factory parts, then go for the pcm. Of coarse you should keep customer in the loop! In my shop I can't afford to putz around for a day proving a bad pcm. On normal vehicles they are not that much with programming vs. time spent proving it. Just my humble opinion. Good video though, nice shop too!❤
@OnceIHadAPony
@OnceIHadAPony 11 ай бұрын
Just did this exact thing and I buy all my tools as I need them. Best part is when I'm done at the end of the day all my tools can be used for my hobbies too. Same thing with learning: just do it gradually over time
@anthonyiannone7618
@anthonyiannone7618 11 ай бұрын
where you getting your service info from?@@OnceIHadAPony
@E99584
@E99584 11 ай бұрын
That escope is amazing. Got to use it for a week at the shop. Need to invest and buy one
@Joe.O_623
@Joe.O_623 Жыл бұрын
Great video! The one thing about those scopes is that there isn't any channel labels. I would get confused running 8 channels without labels to remember whats what when I went back to look at the captures.
@theroyaltyautoservice
@theroyaltyautoservice 11 ай бұрын
In some of our previous videos we show how we use small dry erase boards to keep track of leads. Definitely can get confusing if you don't write them down.
@JoesAutoElectric
@JoesAutoElectric 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff Sherwood. Need more like you.
@brakesitr
@brakesitr Ай бұрын
I have watched your KZbin channel and have learned a lot. Great video every time.
@djosbun
@djosbun Жыл бұрын
Thank you AND the camera guy for another great video! I hope you and your families have a wonderful Christmas!
@bartscave
@bartscave Жыл бұрын
What made you decide to scope all 8 injectors first? Thanks for sharing!
@theroyaltyautoservice
@theroyaltyautoservice Жыл бұрын
I actually scoped the crank signal, cam signal, coil, and a couple of injectors on my first capture. That's my normal process for a shutting off problem. I want to see what i lost then make a decision based on that data.
@johnwiggins1385
@johnwiggins1385 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, these type problems is what separate's the men from the boys as far as mechanics are concerned.
@lanwickum
@lanwickum 10 ай бұрын
Ever try just reprogram the module? I have had module issues multiple times on equipment. Combine, tractor, sprayer, loader, different equipment. Reprogrammed it and fixed the problem. Software went goofy. Every time the dealer or tech told it won't fix it. Never had one when the issue came back when a reprogram fix it. Doesn't take long and can often cost only time. Just a thought.
@zenombereznicki
@zenombereznicki 6 ай бұрын
Great idea to reprogram
@mlrable
@mlrable 11 ай бұрын
Learned fifty years ago the value of a. Ancient scope when cook guy captured my car I. A garage avd said figure it out . I did and it was great
@kennethd7048
@kennethd7048 5 ай бұрын
I remember the old guys who had the old analog scopes and parts books thicker than 4 telephone books!
@bbeauregard4181
@bbeauregard4181 11 ай бұрын
Nice shout out for Bernie! Nice job!
@jasoneyes01
@jasoneyes01 7 ай бұрын
Wow. Amazing to see how a multi decade technician explains how he thinks. Diagnostics can lead you into a rabbit hole no doubt about that. What caused the ECU to fail?
@theroyaltyautoservice
@theroyaltyautoservice 7 ай бұрын
The client stated he had had a lot of battery problems and had jump-started it several times. We believe this is what damaged the ecm.👍
@DD-gd3fr
@DD-gd3fr 4 ай бұрын
You covered alot great diagnosis guys . Alot of shops I remember didnt have scopes due to the cost.
@chicanobluesaz4191
@chicanobluesaz4191 2 ай бұрын
I have seen multiple corvettes of that body style have the engine and electrical system act very funky and weird after a battery dead issue or replacement issue. Of those that i saw, performing a global capacitor discharge fixed all the weird ecm/warning lights issues on , I believe, every one of them that I worked on. Those cars sit most of the time and this causes the battery to go dead. Most corvette owners did not know how to properly jump start their cars.
@pontiacsrule8761
@pontiacsrule8761 11 ай бұрын
This guy is a great teacher & he can really read a scope. I haven't seen GM put the PCM in the wheel well in a really long time. Usually there are in the engine bay. Reminds me of the old days when they had cracked solder joints on the PCM. The test was to tap it lightly to get it to work again Then you knew it was bad.. Great video.
@HYBRIDEVMASTERSGARAGE
@HYBRIDEVMASTERSGARAGE Жыл бұрын
Another great ONE !! Thanks to the Camera Dude : )
@Aiirbear715
@Aiirbear715 11 ай бұрын
Great Diagnostics. That's what people pay for.
@Codadams
@Codadams Жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation- I would t ever own anything to that caliber but it is great to see.
@jameskelly2515
@jameskelly2515 3 ай бұрын
I love these scope videos. Keep em coming! I also like any video showing the shop dog!
@ericlindal8008
@ericlindal8008 6 ай бұрын
Great video, nice scope. Keep in mind the Fast Fourier Transform (FFT) analysis is looking at the frequency content and relative power contained in each frequency bin of the time based signal out of the sensor.The bottom axis is frequency in HZ many those anomalies are digital signal processing phenomena or electrical noise. Probably more useful just to look at the time based signals out of transducer, and overlay it on top of a good trace of the cam sensor. The vertical axis is only useful for relative signal power and comparison purposes. Especially if your vertical axis is displayed in decibels. You really can’t scrutinize the FFT plot unless you have a baseline plot of a normal functioning sensor response. So if you see new frequencies at high amplitudes that weren’t present before, you know something is wrong
@charlesmecum5009
@charlesmecum5009 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CALLING naturally aspirated A engine, I ask others what are you going to call your tesla a engine? No they will call it a drive MOTOR they won't call it a engine, so thank-you fir calling it a engine, sry for rant. Grt video, and when you are as professional as your shop is, always grt to hear you refer to people as your client versus customer, we're not at autozone lol
@robertparamore2863
@robertparamore2863 11 ай бұрын
I yelled at you the whole video. It's the CKP, it's an intermittent shorted injector. It's a PCM. You took the right steps, and I have learned something. Thanks brother. P.S. take it easy on the cameraman. He can make you look good, or he can make you look bad. Great video.
@pablo156v6
@pablo156v6 5 ай бұрын
i had a similar issue on the A/C module of one of my cars ( Alfa romeo 146 td 1996) the only electronic module it has, 15 minutes running and then turn off hahaha. There i learned to read schmatics... thanks Good video !!
@fakeaccount4092
@fakeaccount4092 11 ай бұрын
We send those to the dealership and fix it after they diagnose it for us! That way customers can't blame us and we don't have to buy $1,500+ Scanners and Accessories!
@deerhunter8533
@deerhunter8533 6 ай бұрын
Most dealer techs would not be able to diagnose a problem like this
@Louie88
@Louie88 10 ай бұрын
Another great video with absolutely great info
@dogburrito
@dogburrito 5 күн бұрын
I need a shop like this is Raleigh. I'm sick of service writers pretending to be mechanics, quoting me a grand or two for the wrong repair after i paid $200 for a bad diagnosis.
@Omar80533
@Omar80533 3 ай бұрын
Thank you guys for filming and sharing this!
@benb4688
@benb4688 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I have the escope and it's really nice that someone besides Bernie uses it to make diag videos. Those that have a pico this can be don't using the math channel feature on pico. But it's way way way easier on Bernies scope. The escope has so many more features that are way more user friendly. I have used both and escope wins for sure.
@dogburrito
@dogburrito 5 күн бұрын
This is how I would troubleshoot digital circuity ... by displaying the various waveforms of inputs and outputs of the chips.
@CrazyCat229
@CrazyCat229 11 ай бұрын
Scopes are one of my favorite tools to use. But I was never brave enough to do my own shop....
@CrazyCat229
@CrazyCat229 11 ай бұрын
Other problem was places down playing the diags. Its like ummm no youre not waving the diag.
@SeilerRdAuto
@SeilerRdAuto Жыл бұрын
Great diag for sure!! You’re going to have to take over for Bernie if/when he retires!
@theroyaltyautoservice
@theroyaltyautoservice Жыл бұрын
Haha, I don't think I could ever be at his level. But thanks!!
@dannyd.8753
@dannyd.8753 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Really good video. Was able to learn a lot. Thank you guys.
@rayhofmeister6693
@rayhofmeister6693 11 ай бұрын
That's really helpful technology right there
@SuperJoes70
@SuperJoes70 Жыл бұрын
If I didn't have a scope and like you said no codes could I use a break out box to get to the right direction of the problem ?? Thanks again you guys are 10 stars ! keep the videos coming
@theroyaltyautoservice
@theroyaltyautoservice 11 ай бұрын
I don't see any way this could be diagnosed with a definitive answer without a scope.
@patm95
@patm95 Жыл бұрын
Amazing troubleshooting.
@bradroute3998
@bradroute3998 11 ай бұрын
Did it get repaired? Do not see a follow up video? This stuff is well over my head but I enjoy watching and learning.
@markschroth5700
@markschroth5700 Жыл бұрын
Great video loaded with information thank you.
@PoXFreak
@PoXFreak 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like the mosfet drive circuit took a hit during the jump start that causes the mosfets to all close circuit at once. MP detected this and shuts down. Had a Nissan doing the same thing but only on one injector.
@Mr42960
@Mr42960 11 ай бұрын
Great diagnostic tutorial.
@mikesautorepairs858
@mikesautorepairs858 9 ай бұрын
love all the information and great find just want to know if you able to find this without a scope
@charlesmecum5009
@charlesmecum5009 11 ай бұрын
I have question its this, on chrysler jeep vehicles, that add aftermarket headlights, tipm always has codes for these, what is tipm looking at or for that causes codes, when headlights wrk, my guess is some sort of power and or resistance change it sees, but see all the time when scanning, says headlight and if park light circuit codes if Led bulbs used, can you cure this after using aftermarket lights, not huge deal but didn't know, what tipm uses to determine u changed bulbs, MERRY CHRISTMAS
@alfonsominopoli9301
@alfonsominopoli9301 22 күн бұрын
Loved the diag and the patience to work through it. How do you bill your time? I’m a small independent and have had a few involved diags and always try to come to a compromise with the owner so everyone is happy. I know I’m shorting myself a little but I hope I’m building a relationship with a customer who I hope will name drop me to their friends.
@puterg0d
@puterg0d 6 ай бұрын
I just realized y'all were in the Kings Bay area. I might have to bring something down there if I find myself struggling to diagnose it...
@EATSLEEPFARM
@EATSLEEPFARM 11 ай бұрын
Ats is a good scope but i dont like how you have to buy everything ats to work with this scope. From pressure transducers to amp clamps and secondary ignition. Pico will work with any custom probes. Otherwise its a great scope
@blaze2051
@blaze2051 9 ай бұрын
if the ecm is bad, it would probably wouldnt throw a code, since it bad it wouldnt self diagnose an issue with it self, im glad the ecm did not blame something else and initiate a rabbit hole run
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 11 ай бұрын
Happy Christmas, Royalty Auto Service 👍 From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 20:24pm Good Evening
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 11 ай бұрын
Thank you 📷 man, your son
@mayowaodus6310
@mayowaodus6310 Жыл бұрын
What if In a case were you do an AC ripple test on an Alternator and you have no ripple effect. What does this translates into. Nice job here
@theroyaltyautoservice
@theroyaltyautoservice Жыл бұрын
You're going to get a ripple but you may have downward spikes. If you do have spikes the the diode trio is bad. Most people just replace the alternator, which will fix that problem. Hth.
@stagename2
@stagename2 11 ай бұрын
How many hours of diagnoses did you charge versus how many hours you have into it?
@hhn2002
@hhn2002 Жыл бұрын
Great work 🫡
@rm5902
@rm5902 11 ай бұрын
Excellent skills
@ThunderbirdRocket
@ThunderbirdRocket 11 ай бұрын
That was great 👍🏼 ! Thanks
@PrinceAlberts
@PrinceAlberts 11 ай бұрын
29:00 I just want to know what you couldn’t say on KZbin. I’ve been working on computers forever and I agree, computers almost always fail due to bad maintenance or an associated gear failure.
@robertfinnerty7201
@robertfinnerty7201 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video
@Taillighttim26
@Taillighttim26 7 ай бұрын
Never fails when you have an issue but as soon as you tell someone about it it will make a liar out of you happened to me a few times it drives you crazy
@rodvan-zeller6360
@rodvan-zeller6360 6 ай бұрын
Great video, I am surprised there was no code in failure records.
@Andy-ms9vi
@Andy-ms9vi 9 ай бұрын
Thats awesome that you can call Bernie for advice, even the best techs need help sometimes. But who does Bernie call? Probably God.
@kyletuttle9064
@kyletuttle9064 Жыл бұрын
Great video shout out to your son good work.thanks for sharing
@ophirb25
@ophirb25 4 ай бұрын
Great one. Thanks for sharing 🙏
@amigo2k10
@amigo2k10 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, camera man
@dogburrito
@dogburrito 5 күн бұрын
I've got an 04 Outback with a hesitation problem to challenge you with. Even the best shop in Raleigh won't fix it.
@sirfrancis1756
@sirfrancis1756 Ай бұрын
Could I use this tool for tuning my C6? Or do I have to buy HP tuners as well
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
Intermittent faults are the most difficult to diagnose.
@philh9238
@philh9238 Жыл бұрын
4 channel scope would work. Been a nice capture of a current ramp of the injectors when they all fired at once.
@sheerwillsurvival2064
@sheerwillsurvival2064 Жыл бұрын
More like this please
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