Shotgun World Cup feat. TGS

[@weissrw1]

I live in Missouri (USA). Only recently we can buy a 30" Yildiz Sporter. They sell for $700 (before that only game models were available in 28" versions). Adjustible comb, 5 choke tubes and a plastic case. The wood is walnut with a poly finish, so I fitted it myself (after shifting the comb fairly far in I had an impossible ledge that had to be eliminated). It's easy to re-stain and refinish, which I would have never thought of doing with a more expensive gun. It turned out great. I sold my Browning Cynergy. I like the Turkish guns. They are plain, but I am fairly utilitarian -- why engrave a hammer or a wrench; they're just tools. Good video. I follow both of your channels. Thank you.

[@czredhead8286]

I just love these videos with both of you guys. Fun, entertaining and informative with a heavy accent on the fun. Please make more of them.

[@ibelieve1468]

Looked like you both had fun, it was good to see 2 people with different veiws not calling each other Nazi etc lol 😇😇😇

[@paulwilson7234]

Brilliant 👍👍👍👍680 series Beretta has stood the test of time, the new cnc made Beretta's haven't been around long enough. S O range in my opinion are outstanding. 🏆

[@garyK.45ACP]

Side by Sides? I'll throw you a curve. I had the great opportunity to live and work in eastern Europe for 7 years. When I had holidays I loved to travel around and one of my favorite countries was Czech Republic. (get their soon, sleep when you get home) I picked up a few really nice Czech made guns while there. They were most helpful in shipping them to the USA through a dealer with a an importer license and forwarding them to my local dealer, who held them until I got back. As you know, most Czech guns are named for the city of the armory (Zbrojovka) which makes them. I bought a beautiful Opava Ferdinand 16 ga. Side by Side. Sidelocks, chopper lump barrels, rust blued, side clips, engraved, double triggers, straight grip, splinter forend, fine checkering fitted canvas covered hard case. British "Best Quality" grade in every aspect. I bought that one in 2007 for $1000 USD. Import duties and transfer fees added another $300. A similar quality British gun in the USA would be 10 times that cost, a similar Spanish gun, probably 4-5 times that cost. I also bought a BRNO O/U 12 ga. and a BRNO O/U double rifle in 9.3x74R, both for around $1000 each. Try a good Czech made gun sometime! (FYI, the newer CZ-USA guns are made in Turkey)

[@andyp2343]

Absolutely love these videos. Great collaboration of two top gun reviewers whilst also having some fun. Hopefully more of these to come.

[@edbigtruck]

So Great seeing you two together.

[@thomasashton9302]

Great video chaps. Thanks for giving us something really cheerful and interesting to watch. And a quietly compelling case there for the Bettinsoli too, which is food for thought.

[@matthewfenton8775]

I love that you can both have your opinion so both having to be down each other throats.

[@woodysteve1953]

Bought my beretta 686 sporter from oxford gun co in 1984 still going strong cant beat older berettas.

[@ivorbaker5223]

The Beretta you were using is the 682 Gold, not a 682 Gold E. The action & chokes are totally different on each model.

[@efinkens]

Fantastic format. Do more of these!

[@kevlec1947]

Great to see TGS and TSC working together..

[@matthewh1983]

You guys need to do a shoot off between TSC and TGS. 50 birds at a venue of each choice and a independent judge: Winner gets the bragging rights and the loser has to work at the others shop for the day. Could be a charity fundraising gig. My idea so I’ll come and release the clays.

[@mattcartwright8272]

cracking idea!

[@kenboutin6719]

@@mattcartwright8272 zz

[@petec1050]

My game gun is a 1986 Beretta S687 and the missus gun is a modern Beretta SP1. Mechanically I can't pick between if honest but the finishing and engraving is superior on the old Beretta as it's a lot more had finished

[@chrissywhiskers]

Love these TGS/TSC collabs. You guys should do a game day video together - maybe a walked-up day.

[@tgsoutdoors]

David could take us as a treat?

[@TSCTheshootingchannel]

Maybe we need to Jonny any ideas??

[@cfoutdoors0624]

This was a video I’ve been wanting to see and didn’t even know it! Really enjoy watching both of you guys

[@redduc9523]

Great video guys, love watching you and Jonnie together, great fun!’

[@garyK.45ACP]

I am in the USA. I have several O/Us...Ruger Red Label, Browning, Remington 3200, Beretta 686, Valmet. A couple years ago I bought two Turkish guns, a matched set for my wife and I, of Tedna "Excellence" O/Us in 20 gauge. Not Yildiz, per se, but Turkish made. I paid less than $1000 for THE PAIR! $489.00 each be precise. They both have gorgeous walnut stocks, case colored receivers, false side plates with lots of engraving, excellent...really excellent, wood to metal fit and, so far, very durable finish. Excellent checkering. The guns are real head turners, they look as good in a gun rack as any Perazzi, better than most grades of Browning or Beretta. They are slim and trim, built on true 20 gauge receivers and handle like a magic wand! I cannot find any differences worth the price, from any of the others. We have been using them for Sporting Clays for two years, two rounds a week. We have not had any malfunctions of any kind. 100% reliability of all functions. Barrel selectors, single trigger, auto selective ejectors...all perfect function. I bought a full set of Carlson extended choke tubes for each gun Cyl. through Full for each gun, 7 tubes each. They use the "Huglu" pattern thread. I have one concern that is yet to be seen, and may not be seen for years. When we received the guns they were very "stiff" to operate. After about 200 rounds each, they loosened up and now open and close smoothly and easily, but lock up tight as they should. I do not know how they will last over many 10s of thousands of rounds. We shoot each gun 100 rounds per week, (2 - 50 target courses) after two years, each has fired about 10,000 rounds, give or take. That is not a lot of shooting...not for a competitor and certainly not for an Olympic level trap or skeet shooter. I also shoot 100 targets a week in skeet and occasionally use the Turkish gun for that, but it is not my primary skeet gun. A competitor's gun, and especially if you are talking an Olympic level competitor's gun, has to be able to handle 50,000 rounds per year, for many years. Will these stand up to that level of shooting? I don't know. I will probably never find out, and neither will an average recreational shooter.

[@stephenmac3105]

That flinch at 13:36 🤣 Good to see experienced shooters do it too! Great video

[@cgjaz414]

My old S682X trap is an amazing clays shotgun. Feels more solid than the new ones.

[@dperk1757]

Great video.. 👍

[@keithhaynes8079]

Give me a Fausti FX4 any day David , I had the Beretta 686s for forty years from new but I still love my Fausti.

[@sofalugger]

Can remember in the early 70`s there was a advert for `Mirooks` a shooting school used one and reckoned it had over 1 million cases through it and never faulted or re-jointed??? I have a old B25 , loose-ish but 95% ... Had to fix a cracked ejector and replace one ...Great guns...Also have a couple SO`s one is now being Tightened for first time and it has had a LOT of use....Now great value compared to some `modern` guns?? Safe shooting . . . .

[@MR-oy6jd]

I love your videos ❤️ greetings from Germany

[@markcatherall8460]

They took the time to make the older brothers my Silver Pigeon still looks amazing

[@w1zardssleeve]

A Bettinsoli was my first gun, you're right, Italy's best kept secret

[@ronaldscarce2969]

What a great peace of nonsense sport well done ,nice to see some safe friendly fun keep up good work

[@nateeller2683]

I work at a clay range in kansas in the US. Had a fella with a brand new dt-11, and after 8 shots, his trigger fell out. I have also seen both high and low end guns fail, and I have seen a lot of turkish guns that have failed in some way.

[@winters6052]

22:23 Jonny" can I have two bullets. tut tut Jonny you should no better

[@tgsoutdoors]

Definitely shotgun ‘bullets’, who even says cartridge!!!

[@DFox-ud3gx]

I like Dave dad's old gun always wanted one,miruku is a machine I will get one of these days.

[@Charliepowis]

Tgs view is always right he works in a gun shop go tgs

[@edwinmir26]

Good entertaining video lots of fun. Having owned couple of side by sides, i find the older guns like David’s dads gun are manufactured and finished to a closer tolerance giving its excellent build quality. Ps will there be a part 2 of the video

[@alexsayer2499]

Yes there will Edwin

[@alanhardy581]

Hi having ad both of these guns beretta and yildits . Beretta and browning all day long.

[@robgreen7576]

Yip older berettas better. The quality control was lost for years. I know a gun shop that returned 4 out of 8 new guns because of faults. I do believe they are back on track now. Think they must of been sick of warranty work.

[@alanhardy581]

Yes the ones are the best. Beretta or Browning. Alan

[@robbreeze7599]

Re Berettas. What constitute an “old “ or “new” Beretta?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Modern 2000 and onwards?

[@DFox-ud3gx]

English side by side any day I was a kid had a LC Smith 12 bore.

[@adriantyler6911]

I see that David's Dad's gun is a Miroku ORE, But what model is Jonny's? MK3800...6000? Looks too old for an MK38 or MK60??

[@stephenhothersall3655]

Mk38 modified trap gun

[@adriantyler6911]

Thanks!

[@cgjaz414]

I’d stack my 1984 S682 XTrap against any of the new Berettas.

[@charlesholder8009]

So the only thing you could have agreed on, was that you did not agree on anything. Great fun day.

[@garyK.45ACP]

You guys need a golf cart.

[@Jolly56Roger]

Browning and miroku end off

[@theessexhunter1305]

Shoot that pigeon under what...crop protection. you lads should know better lol Nice video

[@richardtimms8733]

I rate Jonny’s opinion as a qualified Gunsmith, he see’s the hidden horrors on cheap sub standard marks, he has consistently rated Beretta, and Miroku, aka Browning non B25’s. I had a 682L Sporter dated 1985 for 3 years, was Beretta’s flagship model in the day, well made and was pure quality now owned by Nathan for Avalon Guns, I now shoot a DT10EELL for once again everything from Game, Pigeons to Clays, it’s dated 2014, I think the quality is actually better than the 682L.

[@TSCTheshootingchannel]

Hi Richard I hope you are well thank you for your comments you seem to have a lot of interested in my Channel and the gun trade it would be great to meet you and have a chat my email address is [e-mail] Thanks David.

[@Bamagolfer35226]

You guys need to start a new channel with bot of you reviewing guns together ... great fun from a fan from the USA ... I watch both channels

[@eddboswell877]

Hello

[@007nawafe]

9

[@welditmick]

Did you really have to put the bloody mask in the video?

[@Pen15UK]

What’s wrong with a mask? What’s so offensive about it?

[@przemekrybka]

I know this beretta 😉

[@rayhawkins1312]

Shot 5,000,000 cartridges, get a grip !! even if your gun was a 100 years old that would still be 961 cartridges every week....

[@bmkbmk4469]

5 million ...thats 1500+ cartridges every week for 60 yrs ?