The JasonR Controversy Explained

[@sebastiancangahuala514]

The best part was on V1 Zellsis's stream and watching him throw it back mid-argument

[@LarshFPS]

Zellsis was the main character all along

[@clarksolarts2884]

Zellsis be flexin those guns in the stream

[@daffapradana8557]

@@clarksolarts2884 BIG GUNS

[@nicknt9328]

I followed him on twitch cuz of the drama

[@k0smos0]

@@daffapradana8557 BIG DADDY GUNS

[@GeniusLad32]

I'll be honest, that does not sound like the healthiest relationship if you literally aren't allowed to talk to random women lol

[@alisquin315]

Sounds like a really poor excuse of just not wanting to play with women b/c you deem them of lesser skill.

[@gixxern]

@@alisquin315 this is it

[@shawnseguro5184]

especially in a children’s game haha

[@lukeh8512]

​@@alisquin315 This is lowkey it and that older clip of him badmouthing girls proves that. He's using the "but my wife" excuse when in reality he doesn't want to play with girls because he doesn't view them as good players.

[@fikiassegaf400]

like there is no trust between them lmao

[@flipz1083]

The innocent bystander was the shining light of this stream

[@PotionMaterials]

I heckin love Zellsussy

[@flipz1083]

@@PotionMaterials W bystander

[@contessa4490]

GIGACHAD Zellsis

[@borki7469]

@@contessa4490 it's zellsussy dzuhh

[@themaskedman2780]

All females i've played with have bottom fragged idgaf if you call me sexist

[@SnipeGhost]

“how do i disrespect woman i don’t talk to them” *pure gold*

[@perma8034]

half of the valorant community

[@amanray5946]

- He should have been upfront from the first second about why he is dodging - His relationship with his wife seems very unhealthy if she has a problem with him playing a "virtual" game with a girl/woman - He is a grown adult and it is just ridiculous to be whining, moaning and cursing the shit out of Tarik on a public forum.

[@idrinkmilk282]

And people in general aren't healthy for having a problem with JasonR not wanting to play with certain people on a virtual video game. The irony and hypocrisy here is stinking. As it is in most of modern "politics". Fucking pathetic.

[@chiga3388]

Hes hiding all the replies on his twitter where people post the screenshot of him liking some lingerie models post 💀

[@velky_reeds]

WHAT!? no way 😆

[@hungstepbro]

@@velky_reeds look at QT's reply on his tweet

[@ch1rag932]

LMAO 💀

[@tachadocarmelojudeb.355]

I actually saw this last night.

[@happyhopehuber]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@trippasnippa119]

Instead of getting mad at everyone and being so ambiguous as to why he was dodging and avoiding women, he shouldve came out as to why he was doing it to begin with. At the very least with his close friends so they can feel confident in backing you up.

[@ToxicDoesMinecraft]

He didn't want to talk about it because the only way to bring it up without throwing his wife under the bus would be to divulge personal intimate details about their relationship. Which he eventually had to resort to in his final statement/apology.

[@shawngannaway2758]

he lowkey was probably embarrassed, i assume that since the last time i avoided women like this was when i was in a toxic relationship back in middleschool/highschool and in my opinion i lowkey think people should just get their nose out of his business since its most likely just a relationship issue which is personal.

[@favournjoku7594]

There's a reason why even Tarik said Jason's reason is personal. Internet mfs are just nosy.

[@yeaaaaaaaaaaaah-u2o]

@@unbeatable617 i have like 3000-4000 hours in FPS-Games. And ive never personally witnessed a women being better than me. Im MG in CS, I was plat in overwatch. never ever have i seen a women being kinda decent. its either the mercy mains in OW or the bottom fraggers in CSGO. Its not even hate, its just my personal experience. So i kinda get this point. its still a shitty move to dodge them

[@potatoman9698]

Tarik is a shitty friend bruh He blocked his friend whom he knew on a personal level the The moment the guy gets into a bit of drama online He himself was getting views on twitch didn’t wanna be dragged into the situation. a fucking traitor

[@DeletedTaters001]

I can't help but feel like there's a huge mountain of "personal relationship stuff" we don't know about. In a healthy relationship, both parties should be secure enough with each other to not be threatened by their significant other being in the *mere presence* of the opposite sex. Something is definitely off or missing. I guess it's his right to keep his personal relationship details private, but he shouldn't expect to not receive any fallout for excluding women. ( Assuming nothing illegal or toxic is going on)

[@adenkyramud5005]

I've been in a very bad relationship with an extremely manipulative and... Weird... Girl. Tried to control every aspect of my life. Who I talk to, hell if I even said "have a nice day" to the waitress when I took her out for dinner she flipped the fuck out. Seems like he's in a similar situation...

[@bhopstraining]

He cheated on his wife in the past, that is the reason he said he dodges/mutes females. He doesn't want to be put in a situation where his wife can get jealous. Not saying its right or wrong, but that's the reasoning he gave.

[@linjix]

@@bhopstraining ok so now i got the other side of the story, guess that connects some of the it

[@diegoaragao6618]

@@bhopstraining jasonL is pathetic in EVERY possible way cheating dodgin refusing to awknoledge his mistakes Blaming tarik for not taking his side even tho he was wrong - he knew he was wrong and was pissed bc his friends would rather be moral then be his friend being that much controled by his mentally ill SO - that lvl of jealous is toxic If someone just simps that hard for his/her toxic SO, If someone doesnt respect himself enough why should the rest of the world respect him?

[@FTLoHH]

he cheated prob ez

[@PandaKnight-FightingDwagon]

The mere idea that simply interacting with women in a casual manner is disrespectful to your partner is some absolutely maidenless thinking.

[@duorigl]

Hahaha great pun lol

[@neilnair5388]

you know whats surprising, people getting upset about some guy just avoiding some random conversation with some random women and all of these people making a big deal out of it...he is constantly saying this is his choice and he did not cause no harm to anyone

[@vendyM]

@@neilnair5388 but he is causing harm to all the girls who just want to play games

[@neilnair5388]

@@vendyM explain how..how does his absence from thier games ‘harmed’ them… sure it will feel wierd if it happens to me but by no way i would be harmed….is this some 1st world shit i dont understand or is it really blown out of proportion

[@ayushbhandari9355]

@@neilnair5388 not when that some guy is a big twitch streamer with a following

[@akiharuse825]

What annoys me the most about the argument is that JasonR repeatedly says "I don't want you to defend me, I just wanted you to be a witness of my character and say I'm not the person they think I am." like that's literally the same exact thing. Tarik is a W streamer and a W friend.

[@veniiFPS]

W streamer but not a W friend, I don't think Tarik knew the whole story about J and his wife. I mean I sorta know how it feels to fk up a long time ago and to make a promise to myself never to fk up again by completely removing what I messed up on. I don't think it's anyone's business to dive into his own, I personally don't see why him dodging girls or muting them affects them if it doesn't even affect their rank status or game. Sure it may take away some fun but that's his choice.

[@Yoru197]

@@veniiFPS true but his behaviour towards the incident made it worse

[@tweeze123]

Tarik is not a real friend.

[@Yoru197]

@@tweeze123 a real friend helps and doesn’t ruin them even more

[@takaginishikata3250]

Tarik literally stream their argument. If tarik really want to help jason he will turn off the stream but no he wanted to look cool

[@Suspinded]

So he either has a toxic relationship with his wife, or he's done something in the past that justifies her not wanting him to interact with women online. As an outsider looking in, neither of these are a good look. At. All.

[@growarmygtvo8463]

Uhh from what I know apparently he cheated on her in the past but I dont really know.

[@SkyrozzB]

I mean I can’t think of anything bad enough you could do to deserve this. Either he just hates women or his wife is insecure af. Does he have to runs and hide if he sees a girl on the street?

[@kadalix]

from what all these comments are saying its most likely both, which leads to drastic actions

[@TachibanaTengoku]

@@SkyrozzB Probably not, but his wife might give him shit if a girl talks to him in public, it's just not worth dealing with shit like that so a lot of guys just put up with it and distance themselves from other girls in public, including in games.

[@user-pi6zk6jq1j]

I don't say what he is doing right or wrong the sad part that he in both gusses fucked up and try to do better so why don't you leave him alone if he dodge no problem at all for me but mute is a little bit

[@itspaaach]

This is how you know this guy is a narcissist 5:30 - Does Jason not realize he banned the name in chat out of respect for Jason's privacy and to take a neutral stance?

[@p0Rp]

Also can't forget the logic of "not backing me up regardless of my actions = L friend"

[@megaV]

I think in that position where Jasonr was u can perceive a lot of stuff differently no one is that calm and collected to think about everything in a "logical way" Not even defending him just saying this cuz that how humans works sometimes ur emotions can go over the top and u go blind hahahaha

[@neilnair5388]

thats the problem , you dont expect your old friend to take a neutral stance, you expect them to back u up

[@trikxx13]

@@neilnair5388 thats not the problem, your friends arent yes mans. They are allowed to disagree with you and are not obligated at all to defend you when they dont agree with you in the first place. You can expect your friend to want whats best for you, like not agreeing with you when you are being an asshole, or doing wrong things. Your friends are not minions thatll agree to everything you say.

[@megaV]

@@trikxx13 Yea I agree with u but I don't think Jasonr was looking for that after all he said in the argument I think he just wanted Tarik to say something like "Jasonr is not a bad person" keep in mind saying this does not implies he supports jasonr actions u know? but again Tarik can do whatever he wants right? But he's huge he gotta be careful with what he says after all I honestly think if Tarik is an actual friend he could have said something like... Bro what Jasonr is doing is weird asf but ik hes not a bad person He's just acting like nothing is happening and in the heat of the moment u can see that as... He's dont care about u at all (Jasonr perspective)... Again not defending him I just don't think ppl understand Ppl be like Tarik w friend he just don't care about Jasonr or jasonr gotta be more logical about it... Tarik is not being a good friend simple bc he's just acting dumb and Jasonr is taking that WAYYYYY too personal like he is being extremely emotional in a situation where u should think more logical But overall but pov are completely normal Imo all this should be manage privately.. which imo was the play not on stream and using it for content 🤓

[@CuriousPug12]

If your relationship prevents you from having a social interaction with anyone no matter what gender, then that's a HUGE red flag for you or your partner

[@ShadowDashh]

bot

[@adcarry1180]

lol

[@attriox1]

Lmfao did you even listen to what he said? He said he didn’t want to cause any drama. He never said his relationship prevents him from having interaction?

[@attriox1]

We got a future journalist here! Just re phrase what he said into something completely different and than say it like it’s truth. I respect your ignorance and to the 113 that liked this, they probably didn’t even watch the video just read your comment and assumed this is what happened lmfao

[@onyx7557]

@@attriox1 mad?

[@nezan4682]

He used "girl" like its an insult to Tarik, that just says a lot. I think his wife is not the real reason why he discriminate against women. He used his wife as an excuse the way racists uses 'black friend" as an excuse

[@alphaz27]

@tee_yen Literally what does that prove??? Nothing. Jason could be an angel to his wife in front of others and vice versa, that statement doesn't prove anything

[@nezan4682]

@tee_yen this line of thinking is exactly the problem

[@kevinkous2753]

He said it like ''ooh don't to like a girl now '' .In the same way a girl can say to another girl oohh u don't understand me emotionally , u doing like a man .This is not insult , maybe u disagree but this is so stupid.LET'S STOP sex racist , with free speetch racism

[@marblesoda._.]

@@kevinkous2753 i had a stroke reading this

[@kevinkous2753]

@@marblesoda._. lol but u right. commentators.are next

[@Brian-lk5fx]

Yes, because screaming “he’s in U-hall” to a team of 4 other people, one of whom happens to be a woman, is tantamount to cheating. Makes perfect sense lmao

[@akame545]

Idk man, not defending jason but in my past relationships there's girls that get mad at you queueing up with a woman.

[@marcoconci7867]

@@akame545 its not a you problem then

[@melllleesss1996]

​@@akame545 bro yall just not mature enough to be more serious bout relationship and have a time w person like at least 6 months to understand if u match each other.. im married for a long time and we never had such trust issues like this.. ofc if jason already been cheating - its his fault, although i think he just making all this as an excuse) none of such things u described should happen in good healthy realtionship. Just dont date anyone or be more patient and dont be a dick urself

[@akame545]

@@marcoconci7867 Yes, I know that's why I broke up with her when I had the balls to. In jason's case it maybe a manipulative relationship as stated in his twit longer or maybe not, idk.

[@1UcMeOnce1]

@@akame545 "Queueing up" is not quite the same as "ending up on the same team" though. Like one is totally within your control, the other is not, big difference. An analogy to how that would be IRL is like asking a girl to go and get a coffee together (which I could totally understand someone's partner being somewhat suspicious about) vs leaving the Starbucks because there is a girl there when u went to get coffee for yourself.

[@apolloisnotashirt]

How brittle does your relationship with your wife have to be that you have to not talk to any women? Yet he also likes certain pictures in twitter.

[@1bullneck1]

How brittle does your life have to be to care about a random dudes relationship to his wife?

[@retiredtidepodeater3339]

It's just all about respecting your relationship and being mindful about how these clout chasing, new age of females will try to drum up drama out of the blue. Being proactive and removing yourself from a potential situation shouldn't be a big deal.

[@SparkleMore]

@@retiredtidepodeater3339 Bro stfu - girls also just wanna play video games wtf 😂

[@Deaderthandead69]

@@retiredtidepodeater3339 If some guy has to not be around other women because he knows he can't control himself and has had issues in the past with cheating, then why the fuck would people complain? Sounds like he realized real life is more important than gaming lmao. He should def stop dodging games though thats lame as fuck to ruin the fun for other people. Just mute them or some shit.

[@premojha979]

@@1bullneck1 It’s not about questioning his relationship but the rather questioning the validity of JasonR actually using it as an excuse.

[@epicgames9883]

im not a mysoginist 5 seconds later "you chose to be a f*cking girl about it" einstein right here

[@machtwo_]

yeah... told me everything I needed to know

[@hiimdarius]

@@machtwo_ he's not a mysoginist. He decided to take responsibility to address it and will no longer dodge women in matches anymore. Get over it. People change

[@hiimdarius]

@@machtwo_ no it doesn't

[@puifyb6994]

'Being a girl about it' doesn't mean sexism - it is a phrase which describes someone whining about something.

[@jabronijackpot]

@@puifyb6994 If you can't understand how that's an inherently sexist statement idk what to tell you lol

[@yusefoku]

even if he isnt sexist, the way he treated tarik was messed up and with the way he talks about women just doesnt sit right with me.

[@enashimo]

Yup, dude was textbook definition gaslighting Tarik

[@yusefoku]

@Son Haru dont care

[@spero7279]

@@yusefoku Imagine having thoughts and opinions and god forbid sharing them on the internet

[@yusefoku]

@@spero7279 ok?

[@spero7279]

@@yusefoku That was my response to "this isn't about you" ...

[@ThatGuy_1220]

JasonR: "I'm not a misogynist!" Also JasonR: "You chose to be a fucking GIRL about it" If you don't think what he said is misogynistic, then surprise! You're just like him, lmao

[@pottyputter05]

I don't think that makes him a misogynistic person. Wouldn't you agree the vernacular tends to rule all.

[@PlasticgamerPC]

@@pottyputter05 he's a grown ass man he can think about his words and actions before he says/does them. The only people ruled by their vernacular are children

[@alexalorraina916]

@@pottyputter05 it’s misogynistic cause it implies that women don’t speak out about their opinions and be soft spoken

[@doggydog7839]

He is just saying u r no more my boy

[@valmiro4164]

@@pottyputter05 It's misogynistic because he equates "girl" to a derogatory term.

[@saeheon]

The fact remains that he initially lied about dodging games and subsequently doesn't sound sincere about his apology. It felt like he only came out admitting it when things are blowing up further and he was afraid of losing more. Where is his explanation or apology for lying?

[@Bluessoulphoenix]

His explanation? "VoiceMeter Benena"

[@idrinkmilk282]

He doesn't need to apologise for picking who he does or doesn't play with. He owes you people nothing. More artificial outrage from the alphabet people on twitter. Typical bored ugly women finding ways to spite and hate the world just because they were born ugly. Take it out on the men.

[@spadezthemusician8499]

7:48 “You chose to be a girl about it and wouldn’t fuckin say shit to me” Bro you sure you didn’t mute him? 🤨

[@chinosandiego]

W comment

[@CeeJayLerod]

Treating all women as "potential drama" is a huge problem. Seems like this guy is avoiding problems with himself, instead of trying to fix them.

[@markadorf7938]

Did you watch the whole video? I think not, as one of the concluding statements, Jason's final message, was an apology and a reform statement. He said that he would no longer be avoiding the situations that he was previously avoiding.

[@xuyukun123]

@@markadorf7938 in said apology he just blamed it on his wife and chat anyway, it's more of a cop out than a sincere apology

[@nomorecakes]

​@@xuyukun123 I really don't see what he should be blamed for? For respecting his wifes wishes? For his friend to leave him out in the dirt and ban his name in the chat for no reason? Kind of strange people are up in arms about this.

[@GemKun-w2y]

@@markadorf7938 his apology was sad

[@michaeldayao1512]

@@nomorecakes people are up in arms because he’s literally not keeping himself accountable

[@titantv4567]

That seems like a toxic relationship to me. Not being able to even play with girls who you dont even know or see, they are just a female voice behind a monitor. Whats so wrong about it.

[@spartax8986]

In his apology he stated that he mistreated her in the past. I'm assuming cheating was a thing back then and they're agreement came down to not talking to girls online. As dumb as that is lol. The whole thing was just handled horribly regardless

[@yvngzxm9190]

not really he fucked up in the past and is trying to mend his relationship thats not toxic in the least bit if its true. As a creator they can be thrust into any number of situations that can be misconstrued so id do the same thing in his position. Plus people have insecurities so if you are in an intimate relationship with them then youd wanna make sure they know whaat lengths you go to make that insecurity go away. If anything what hes did is perfectly humane if his defense to it is true

[@muhdfadlan]

toxic or not, its their own relationship. if thats what they agree and okay with it why even people try do judge it. lmao

[@dylanmh7150]

we dont know how bad situation was on his statement saying "When I was younger I was not a good person to Her" , we dont know about situation on their relationship, and we dont want to know about their private life if he doesnt want to talk publicly . But the fact that his denying at the beginning and led this situation to a "big drama" . If He just accepted it at the beginning and saying He want to respect His relationship with His Wife I dont think this "drama" will be longer

[@kuromaki6226]

@@dylanmh7150 It really depends, imo internet is shit sometimes on prying other's personal live

[@henbi7264]

I think its pretty important to note that while he claims to be doing it out of respect for his wife only, he was caught liking tweets of women in lingerie, so if his wife for some reason wouldnt even let him talk to women online id love to know what she thinks of that

[@NoVisionGuy]

"I'm not talking to women, that's not disrespect" Respect

[@adenkyramud5005]

This shit just screams manipulative and over controlling partner to me... Because I've been in exactly that situation myself. Y'all guys might not understand that situation cause you've never been in it but to me this looks almost exactly like what I went through, especially the weird jokes trying to cover it up. Cause you know you shouldn't let others know in what kind of situation you are... So you need to cover it up even if you don't realize what the situation really is... Sorry if none of that made sense, english isn't my native language and it's late as fuck here lmao

[@jisootrash8820]

they sayin jasonr cheated b4 so

[@thebuzh3rd]

Even if true, that doesn't make his behaviour as described not toxic. If he's being abused, fine, but this behaviour doesn't resolve that issue - and may further be enabling his abuser. He needs to get out of that situation if that is the case. If that isn't the case, then that is just some hateful loser man-child ish.

[@jisootrash8820]

@@thebuzh3rd i dont think he’s being abused i think his wife just has trust issues knowing that jason had a history of cheating. idk maybe he just didnt want no conflict w his wife, thats why he just avoids playing w women in general, its kinda hard to say bc his statement was pretty vague but yeah we never know. but dont get me wrong i still think what he did is pretty fckd up

[@RCmetal11]

it can be 2 things. He can have a controlling partner, and be a major misogynist.

[@muhdfadlan]

@@asdfghjklmnop850 said the guy never in relationship

[@militarymeerkat520]

The one gamer not hunting for a gamer girlfriend online

[@Sinocrez]

as a user of voicemeter banana, there's never been a time where my game has ever crashed cause of VMB, this includes games that are more demanding than Valorant. Such claims that he doesnt hear anyone during loading screens is such bs.

[@mazefur]

i'm about to say the same thing

[@joelking313]

He took it back though and admitted that he did dodge the games. So he basically admitted that it was bs.

[@quadoooo]

@@joelking313 what can u tell me the story

[@kuma8030]

@@joelking313 but it does happen if you dont pay for it tho. every 4 hours or so that shit notifies you and if its in a loading screen it gets buggy af. it was bullshit but it is true that happens in certain situations

[@markpaulpangan7618]

@@quadoooo watch the entire video bruh he doesn't need to tell you any story

[@Lothrean]

What a weak character one has to be to feel being forced to not interact with people of a specific gender, or to feel forced to do so by the chosen partner.

[@henriquerocha6688]

This dude could've gone out of this situation in a very simple way, but chose to drown himself into deepwater to finally do the right thing. Admiting he dodges women, because it's how his relationship works and is an agreement between him and his wife, people in spite of not agreeing with that, would've understood.

[@yunsengc]

are u some kind of stalker? why u prey into people life because he is a streamer? if today a no namer dodging girl in valorant will u still commenting here?

[@henriquerocha6688]

@@yunsengc Well, he chose to be a public figure, not me, also I wasn't the one exposing him, I just got into de drama.

[@deep_swamp]

"You chose to be a girl about it" -JasonR Acts like a mysogonist yet expects people to believe that he's not. Really not how that works Jason...

[@abhi8441999]

That was the nail in the coffin. What more explanation would anyone need from that guy on this..🤣

[@JaminDaHouse915]

The stream went wild with that

[@jackhanna7426]

He did tho

[@MONSTERKILL2013]

Stop being such a girl

[@fillatron8795]

mysogonist means he hates women tho.. i dont think he can hate women if he has a girlfriend or wife. Its just a saying tho tbh, alot of guys say "bro dont act like a little girl" doesnt make them mysognist lool.

[@gvw2519]

what i don’t understand: how does playing a game ON STREAM with a female in your game (that you aren’t queued with) effect the relationship with your wife? if he’s scared a women will make a move, if he streams the game there is clear evidence jasonr doesnt reciprocate any feelings. if he had a trusting relationship with his wife his wife wouldn’t get hurt over some girl trying to rank up in a video game. i queue valorant all the time without my boyfriend, do i dodge the second i hear a man’s voice? no! because i don’t make a move and if the boy does i just mute them. his logic doesn’t make any sense

[@eatmypost9500]

nice analysis of a person you dont know based on your fucking personal relationship. thtats just dumb

[@austinstidham3425]

I mean ninja did the same thing because of his wife. I don’t understand why people care so much, let the man live his life how he wants.

[@nivlazhang9756]

@@austinstidham3425 because you ruin other people’a experience of the game if you dodge or mute just because they are female.

[@maxwellsherman3673]

affect*

[@ligitstrawberry]

You don't have to understand someone's opinion that is why it is theirs. His wife didn't want him even playing with other females and he simply honored his lifelong commitment to her. I do believe that he is handling the situation like a bit of an idiot but he is an individual he can lead his life how he wants. Without being canceled he didn't do anything that horrible

[@yongwatv]

"Don't disrespect women" Called them b***es before the statement.

[@kennethg1092]

If you have ever seen his stream for fucking 30 minutes you'd know that he calls everyone bitches, and 99% of the time is it not with bad intent. Jesus christ, women and drama.. gloves and hands.

[@Edogmonkey]

jason's behavior is weird but please explain how people feel unsafe that he doesnt want to play with women. thats fucking silly and a frankly shitty excuse to make this a way bigger deal than it needed to be. stop infantilizing women.

[@cjnogodula]

Weird to see this controversy go down in Valorant Not sure if JasonR ever dodged queues with women in CS but as someone who has followed this scene since then, this story is WILD never thought I'd see the day where Tarik and JasonR had a public beef like this

[@krishay993]

If he just admitted It I think life would have been easier for him

[@matj7982]

agreed so now he looks so much worse than he actually is imo

[@vuskeedoo]

The way he explains himself on stream after the fact sounds forced. Just own up to it. People make allegations because no one knows the truth. Tell the truth.

[@snowy2154]

Finally, i was waiting for a trusted source to upload an explanation.

[@nateh9764]

The scary shit is he genuinely doesn’t think he’s being a misogynist. If your wife literally can’t trust you to talk to women online that’s an issue

[@MamisNovaClass]

Any dude who calls women b****es and calls men who don't agree with him, being a "girl" about it, is not a genuine person. Never trust someone who can't respect the people who criticize them. We shouldn't give him a free pass just cuz he threw his wife under the bus

[@pandey2170]

Tarik owned JasonR. No debate, period.

[@kejadventures241]

You don't own someone by wasting an hour of your life complaining about theirs. That's not how it works.

[@senjusasuke6906]

Warik

[@svool8613]

@@kejadventures241 nope he did own him

[@somegalulbad642]

@@kejadventures241 youve never been into an argument

[@-sorta]

You all are childish. This isn't middle school there is no "owning". They aren't trying to best each other they're trying to come to a resolution with their individual opinions.

[@cooliots1629]

he probably cheated on his wife with someone he use to game with and that might be why he wont play with women. just my thoughts

[@kingkaffa6967]

Maybe

[@flarebear5346]

Honestly if there is that little trust in the marriage then you might as well just divorce. I smell a future divorce here

[@rs660alec]

Agreed

[@ctrujillo1994]

I’m pretty sure that’s correct or someone from his twitch chat.

[@HoneyReno]

I feel like he is saying.... *I cheated on my wife, probably with a girl I found in a game("I was not a good person to my wife") but she's chosen to stay together. *To not make her feel like I'm gonna cheat again, I'm not gonna interact with girls in games(which is rude to the girls). Or she has asked me to not have any girls in my games so I dodge(still rude becauses it's randomized lobbies) *After showing her that I'm being shit on for this and threatening my income(aka streamer), she's said, "fine you can play with girls I guess" Am I close?

[@360gamingwizard2]

Ok fair, but please explain why its rude to not interact with those girls. He has no obligation to do so.

[@PsychoEye]

@@360gamingwizard2 agreed, it's definitely a societal problem.

[@krizos5305]

@@360gamingwizard2 because its just a random lobby you cant tell if the girl queue sniped you or something to the point you have to not interact and doge, and we're supposed to play it as a team so we need communication its not an E date. Plus if you just silent dodge, make unconvincing excuses those people will accuse you being rude or sexist, its not an obligation for him but acting like one without an explanation makes it rude for everyone

[@thetydalwave_]

@@360gamingwizard2 he's not obligated to be their friends but Valorant is a game where a lot of it is based on communication. At least be communicative in game for game sake and never talk to them again if you don't want to.

[@Popoybato123]

@@360gamingwizard2 let's say you walk into a restaurant. You get a table, take a seat. Just when you were about to order the waiter all of a sudden just walks away and refuses to take your order. Sighting your gender as an issue. Simple as that.

[@ItsQkaisen]

"Im sorry" proceeds to chuckle and smile at the camera...

[@merc3rmixer475]

If he has to dodge a game with a women in it because of his wife. There’s bigger problems in that relationship then online valorant.

[@thebestjoshua8288]

Does having "personal stuff" in your life limits you on what you do? JasonR is a professional streamer and his wife cannot take it? then why be a streamer when you cant even interact with half of the population of the world.

[@joeking1669]

If he is so sorry now, why did he react the way he did when he was in a game with Shaz and his girlfriend?

[@KennyKennTV]

Oh my god, so he cheated and he wanted to avoid women to make her feel secure. it all makes sense now.

[@jadenngl]

why do you think he cheated im confused

[@peterparker1119]

@@jadenngl its these people making up assumptions again. Remember we live in a pro-feminist era, where he might be scared to voice stuff against his wife and get cancelled ?

[@dman7985]

@@peterparker1119 How do you even know that's true? He's lied about it, and said other misogynistic things. He's probably just using it as a cop-out. Not everything is about "cancelling" bro, but you say "pro-feminist" like it's a bad thing, so that tells me all I need to know.

[@jannig9322]

@@peterparker1119 in his apology he did mention he did not treat his wife very well in the past so maybe that's where his assumption came from. We won't really know anything until Jason tells the whole story which may not happen since it's most likely a personal matter and people might just end up attacking his wife if she's actually involved. Maybe even his wife will come forth and talk about all this LOL (99% chance of that not happening). All we can do now is make assumptions and his was not bad tbh. Good chance of it being true.

[@peterparker1119]

@@jannig9322 completely possible and not. The reason could be a whole lot of different things. We sitting and conspiring and making up things won't change the real reason is what I am saying. Also Evey person has the right to play with whoever they want, now cos this guy happens to be a big streamer, now it's become a big talking point.

[@thoseriseofkingdomsadswith972]

"How can I be a woman-hater when I willingly design my life to avoid them like a disease." Hmm.

[@aimest2963]

3:15 this is absolute bs, i play on a VERY bad computer so i actually go through this and you actually can hear people in the game, it doesnt matter if you arent loaded in or not

[@maheerhuq6708]

How can you look at the clip at 2:44 and tell me he's not guilty LMAO

[@nono-es1zl]

No one is saying he isn’t guilty people are saying it shouldn’t matter because it’s a personal relationship thing.

[@ElCapitanY92]

People joke like that all the time, but these days everyone tries to be sissy and sensitive about everything .. when u know what he is going thru with his marriage u would immediately understand what he means by what he said .

[@Nonock]

@@ElCapitanY92 people just tryna find small shit and make it big nowadays, its stupid people are brittle snowflakes that break down when you say something mildly offensive now

[@dermax1027]

"How is not interacting with women disrespecting women?" Lmao how dense. :D

[@kejadventures241]

I mean it is a free country, If he doesn't want to he doesn't have to. Too many virtue signaling tools out there.

[@user-nr7it1bz8y]

fr

[@ATHRxeyz]

So if I decide to not interact with a specific group of women does that mean I'm sexist?

[@dermax1027]

@@kejadventures241 Sure, but women are like half the population. Yeah the scale maybe tilted a bit to men side in online games, but still.

[@kejadventures241]

@@dermax1027 But still what? What else is there to say? He utilized his freedoms to do what he wanted how you feel doesn't matter.

[@BadDFWDrivers]

Very well written and presented piece.

[@Phox7227]

Honestly if Moe comes to your defense...it makes me think you are more likely to be on the wrong side.

[@idrinkmilk282]

Or he has personal issues and the drama vampires on the Internet have jumped all over it because they have nothing better to do with their lives and literally live for the moments such as these, other peoples pain and discomfort. Because it makes them smile. It entertains them. There's a more accurate measure of this and many other "dramas" on the internet/in politics these days. Alphabet people born ugly so they take it out on white men that are straight. Welcome to 2023.

[@lowerpower2528]

if he doesnt want to play with someone - this is his full right to do it. The problem is how he was trying to offer excuses lul

[@danny.8887]

Yea bro I don’t understand why people get mad

[@chillenrules]

@@danny.8887 everyone thats mad is just a white knight or dont wanna get canceled lol

[@einarsa7196]

yeah i dont get it either. Yet they make it like its end of the world ....

[@Askemanden]

Yeah, next up: JasonR doesn’t want to play with black people. It’s his full right to do it. stfu idiots, do none of you understand what discrimination is? It doesn’t matter if it’s gender or race, it’s not okay

[@justahugenerd1278]

damn bro have we really devolved as a society where we say it's okay to be blatantly sexist because it's their right? i thought we moved on beyond that. like this ain't even the keyboard warrior "sexism"... it's pure, unadulterated sexism. that's not okay for anyone to be participating in.

[@tessagrimm7819]

As a woman, if my husband played games, id let him play with anyone. He must have cheated.. thats on his wife for staying with him. Jason should be able to show hes trustworthy another way without putting females down.

[@campbelldare5717]

In his apology, he written that he had done something terrible to his wife (many suspect cheating) and he claimed that he avoided women out of respect for his wife.

[@Solidsnake3848]

You know what’s fucked? In the 1hr argument with Tarik, he claims to dodge games out of respect for his wife yet he also claims he has played unrated with girls. Damn.

[@trikxx13]

ye hes contradicted himself so many times that it makes him seem untrustable lmao

[@trikxx13]

@Something Nice the fuck are u on? the point of the original comment is that its pointing out that he doesn't play with women because of his wife. But he does, pointing out that its a lie and that he is using his wife as an excuse. Its just another excuse made up by him because of him handling this whole situation terribly. This situation has been out for a long time, do your goddamn research. And obviously theres nothing wrong playing with women. Like wtf r u even trying to say?

[@machtwo_]

so it sounds like he previously had problems with not respecting his wife and his relationship by approaching other women. and his solution to this was to avoid women all together? instead of learning how to see women as something more than just a potential partner. I truly feel bad for his wife.

[@kiwayakotako5320]

talking with other women = bad not talking with women = bad what the fuck's a man supposed to do to stop being shat on from every side, jesus

[@broom_404]

@@kiwayakotako5320 who said talking to woman bad?

[@kuromaki6226]

This sounded like a toxic manipulative relationship imo and his wife is behind it. You do realize he even said that his wife can be watching anytime or so. Which implies, "My wife is watching me so I can't do shit".

[@Chain69killeR7]

@@kiwayakotako5320 But that’s not even the situation here, lmao.

[@rakurai7367]

@@broom_404 his wife

[@tlin5563]

crazy how he went from saying his PC was crashing, to "respecting his wife"

[@bread4799]

It’s crazy how now a days some people are making this situation OD than it needs to be, like it’s just a game… not real life

[@snozzberry1916]

Lmao so he cheated on his wife and to make up for it he stops interacting with women completely as his "punishment"

[@corbinc1938]

You’ve obviously never been in a relationship, especially one who works through ups and downs - I know guys who’ve stopped going to the gym for the same reason, get a grip

[@toonbotime]

@@corbinc1938 what does cheating on your wife have to do with the gym

[@frankmartel3428]

if i got a girlfriend i would not have a friendly talk to any woman cause if im in relation its because i love her and only her and i know myself that if i begin to talk to a beautiful lady even thoo im in relation ship with my love i would start having feeling.. i wouldnt cheat but feeling hurts.... of corse open relation ship is there but its not for everyone ! sooo yea if i had cheat on my gf and she give me an other chance ( just the fact that she give me a chance is huge ) i would not care about anything and do whatever it take prove i love her more than anybody

[@jesse1697]

@@corbinc1938 beta male behavior lmaoo only loser scared to girls

[@uglyhippos]

@@corbinc1938 wait is this a joke or /s post because Im also confused. What does going to a gym have to do with anything?

[@wordbird35]

As if a woman in any of his games “want”him at all lol

[@shiberu_7s]

huh?

[@ahtiulanen6122]

How can you not feel safe, wtf ks this bs, how can someone feel unsafe when playing valorant, just bcs 1, 1 single dude dodges your gender, explain to me wtf is this I feel threatend by this dude that refuses to play with me?

[@IanStrain23328]

0:03 Not accused, has been CAUGHT of dodging games with women and blaming it on a "crash/lag" when he makes his camera full screen in some clips, you can clearly see him Alt+F4 his game, and this is why he doesnt wear his glasses anymore so that people cant see him pressing Alt+F4 because in game it brings up a little window saying something along the lines of "Are you sure you want to close your game blah blah blah" and you can see in the reflection of his glasses and his arm makes the movement to Alt+F4

[@shankzu4970]

if Jason is really doing this for the sake of his wife, their relationship isin't healthy at all

[@rekxs1963]

I respect JasonRs decision of respecting his relationship with his wife at a certain level but that he dodges every game that he can just to "respect the relationship" is extreme u can mute them sure and not talk to them but theres a behavior that every human being deserve u dont have to start flirting with them or invite them over just give quick callouts and thats it no need for further conversation and stuff that is not threatening at all if u agree to be with someone u cant just forbid the other one to stop talking to the opposite sex

[@coasterthekid8867]

Here’s the thing, ninja did the exact same thing and his reasoning was the exact same, that he didn’t want people shipping him with every female streamer or player he plays with. I can understand the perspe-ctive of it looking sexist but I can also understand the perspective of him not wanting to be shipped with every single female he plays with. The real problem with this in my opinion was his response because he kind of seemed like he was in shock at the time(which is understandable if he felt like people who had no problem with him beforehand were turning on him) and this seemingly led to him not giving a very good response. In all reality though, I think that if you gave ninja a pass, It’s only fair to give this guy a pass too.

[@itsyeaboi5333]

ninja didnt want to party or collab with women streamers but doesnt avoid it if he gets queued up with a woman. jasonr would dodge or mute random women he gets queued with. the latter takes a more hardlined stance. take it how you will how they arent exactly the same thing.

[@coasterthekid8867]

@@itsyeaboi5333 Yes but since their reasoning is the same, for similar actions it makes it difficult to hard condemn one and not the other

[@josedeleon3179]

who's ninja?

[@Aqcalamity]

Jason r did nothing wrong.

[@josedeleon3179]

@@Aqcalamity lul JasonL is absolute dogshit for blaming Tarik.

[@BoxiesAU]

What a sad bloke.

[@broganders3709]

So sad

[@internetexplorerchan2697]

The word "sad" doesn't deserve to describe him for that actions. He's way absolutely worse than that, karma pays him anyways.

[@q2puke]

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that this is what his dodging was about, but the things he says in those clips where he dodges are just... ew. Valorant, like a bunch of other games, has a problem with sexists on VC and prominent streamers like JasonR spouting things that sound like those views on stream are just going to embolden those idiots.

[@Tommy_Tran023]

The main thing is this, friends dont have always back you up especially if you are being a fuckhead. Not everyone has to agree with your choices, and most importantly a REAL W FRIEND will call you out on your bullshit.

[@ekuLul]

My guy got 300 dollars while admitting to being mysoginistic

[@TheCnidarians]

westeners are so twisted thinking a married guy wanted to avoid interacting with other women is considered misogynistic no wonder the divorce rates are so high.

[@cloudknotval]

deserves it, man really tried changing careers and thought he could get away with his biggest issue (jasonR)

[@voidthespacecreator6010]

What is his biggest issue? I’m kinda new to this drama

[@diztinger]

@@voidthespacecreator6010 +

[@cloudknotval]

@@voidthespacecreator6010 being based and an ex-csgo pro he thinks quitting to a new game will clean his sheet of instances of where he has said very offensive things

[@c0rpse1]

almost 100 years into women's liberation where's something to show for it? A piece of great literature written by a woman? A philosophical treatise of note that's not just endless nitpicking about social position? An invention? Something?

[@sway_onthetrail]

No matter what the reason is, it looks bad. If it's that he wants to respect his wife, that ultimately means that he has done things in the relationship to make her not trust him or feel secure in the relationship. If he's dodging because he just doesn't respect women, which is the vibe I get considering he used "girl" as an insult and unironically uses language like bitches and hoes, it's arguably even worse. Either way, no place for someone like this in this space and it's a shame that nothing will end up happening. People like that don't deserve a platform or the luxury of having the job they do.

[@ViperDivinity]

If he only told the truth earlier or talk with Tarik peacefully, people will understand it and let it go. He just made it even worse than it shouldn't be.

[@Versace_sheets]

Nah fuck that. Nothing this douche could've said would've made him look less douchey. Imagine trying to argue that you're not sexist and you let "stop acting like a girl" slip out

[@slamoto2]

Hes such a liar its actually insane. At first he is denying it, then suddenly he is doing it. And then he comes up with the bullshit excuse "its because my wife said so" Toxic relationship yikes. And after all of this he said he wont dodge anymore???? so its suddently ok with his wife? Makes it look like it was all a made up excuse from the start. Hope he gets perma banned soon.

[@RCmetal11]

yeah this is my thinking. There are people in chat justifying jasons actions like its okay now because he apologized? Dude took a page from the narcissist playbook -- do action, deny doing action, admit so doing some of the action sometimes, admitting to doing the action but because of "x" reason, and saying he will stop when no one buys it.

[@slamoto2]

@@RCmetal11 So true. I mean why is he lying in the first place? Be honest and say its because of your girlfriend. But that back and forth pretty much confirms that it was a lie from the being. he handled that situation the worst way possible.

[@RCmetal11]

@@slamoto2 and even if it's "I respect my wife" as the actual reason. It's a shit reason and doesn't make it okay lol.

[@JustaRandomGuy890]

How is his wife so insecure wtf?!

[@corbinc1938]

The guys makes millions off people watching him, there are tons of “e-girls” who would love to be in her spot - like this is common sense really, tons of athletes don’t control their social media partly for the same reason

[@senshy290]

He cheated on her a long time ago

[@muhdfadlan]

its human afterall

[@perniciousthought9173]

If talking with other woman is disrespecting your wife, then there is something really really wrong

[@juliussins8736]

I'm a married man, and I played Valorant where there's a time a girl/woman gamer on my team because I solo queue. What's the correlation between you played a game with a girl/woman gamer on your team with you respect or disrespected your wife? Are you flirting with these girl/woman gamer? If not, there shouldn't be a problem.

[@bigswings2414]

I remeber when Ninja did this too. "I don't play games with girls because my wife" like it's a valid excuse. Jason R is a slimy little snake. He straight up lied for a month about dodging game with girls in it. Also, I don't buy the wife being a puppet master and abusive because by his own omission he has said he wasn't good to her in the past. I think he has some weird thought process about what is ok in a relationship and it bit him in the butt.

[@bantxc5616]

I’ll admit this is a copy paste from a comment I already made cause I’m lazy. it was only with large female streamers to avoid controversy not some random girl he got into a game with. Also it was only 1 on 1 things like duo queue he has played like among us lobby’s etc with girls. Ninjas take is a bit dumb but it makes sense at least Jason’s doesn’t.

[@puifyb6994]

'Being a girl about it' is a well known phrase desribing someone often whining about something- it is a stereotype where some women whine A LOT. Also there's no harm in looking and liking other girls on twitter, it's natural to do that. Everyone can find someone else attractive and like them, but 'to love' is a different story. You guys are all young, you should be taking this as a lesson so you don't repeat them in the future not as a chance to harrass someone. Tarik wouldn't want you guys harrassing him either, he's probably also embarrased with the immaturity of his own audience. It's your constant harrassment that has altered his behaviour. Right now all he needs is someone to stand beside him and comfort him. You don't have to show him some support, all you need to do is stop commenting nonsence everywhere. Verbally bullying an individual wont help in shaping him into a better person, instead it makes YOU more evil. Take action and be a better person, a year from now, you would have wished you started today.

[@vivian-alexandrarivers897]

Just because you have a reason, doesn't mean it's reasonable. However, I feel like if he was more transparent about this sooner, he could have made this whole thing way less damaging in the long run.

[@jenokrivanszki7762]

like whats wrong blocking or not wanting interaction with women anyways? does he flames no does he trolls no. in some years it would be a rule to talk with girls online or what?

[@vivian-alexandrarivers897]

@@jenokrivanszki7762 From what I understand, the interactions with women would make him seem unfaithful to either himself or to his significant other, but the spirit of such a contract to 'not interact with women' doesn't really feel like it should include professional interactions. People playing in video game queues are leaves passing in the wind, if you don't make a motion to continue the interaction after, they just pass right by. If you just outright avoid women entirely and give no explanation, you cannot expect people to understand.

[@jenokrivanszki7762]

​@@vivian-alexandrarivers897 no simply avoiding women is a common thing you dont want drama and rather focus on your self and carrier-family or many other things but i have a question if he would admited it and said yes i did dodge games because this creature was in my lobby would it change anything beside getting hated for it online? also if women can ghost or block man in a text arent we allowed to do the same to them i mean they wanted equality sooo yeah..

[@vivian-alexandrarivers897]

@@jenokrivanszki7762 That... isn't what I'm talking about, I'm talking about if he explained his reason for doing it. Avoiding people for something out of their control is toxic behaviour no matter what, if you're playing a matchmade game, you are going into it understanding you will be matched with random people, which includes random genders, religions, races, ages and beliefs. Yet we all play together.

[@jenokrivanszki7762]

​@@vivian-alexandrarivers897 yeah we cannot choose gender and the others but we can select who we will play with and if he refuses to play with the creatures is his choice he is not promoting hatred towards women like feminism would do againts men so its not realy a toxic as you say he just dodges quietly to avoid them thats all its not toxic not abusive its nothing in league you can even dodge because you got a polish duo on botlane thats refuses to communicate on english there are no rules for dodging or even ignoring women out of the box and yeah that one who did not name jason but posted the tweet is the real toxic one who lacks attention and wants drama

[@eviltears650]

i think it started off as a passive aggressive thingy when he started intentionally dodging women cus "content", then he started using his relationship as an excuse when everyone started condemning his actions. that's toxic either way

[@BKieza]

If your relationship is weak enough that u need to dodge women u need to sort out ur relationship

[@duseifert]

that Tarik stream with jason was the definition of "gaslighting"

[@Hawksey_]

My mums was sitting next to me whilst I was watching and said, “looks like he has short man syndrome”.

[@wordbird35]

And that sentiment is just as wrong as anything JasonR is saying

[@sparv1067]

Oh well, he can do what he wants?

[@bryce4650]

Dude be throwing the biggest career in his life as well as his reputation to act like a 9 year old with a "no girls allowed" poster on the door of his room

[@shotarcherz1690]

7:46 *joker voice* “Very poor choice of words”

[@grump1807]

jasonr really got L ratio'd... also love u my fav stoner

[@terryheeb6668]

Nothing wrong with this. Does he have to play with women

[@presleynguyen3047]

if he doesnt want to play with females then who fucking cares. hes gonna live his life.

[@Diamond-vg4ep]

only real comment

[@slavicdude1016]

It feels weird and sad to see this. I watched tarik when he was in CLG all the way till he retired from pro csgo. Jason was one of tarik's closest stream friend in that period and it's strange to see them publicly fight but also to see them reach such high viewership.

[@Gigi-oq2cy]

i dont think this is that big of a deal i wouldnt even call this controversy

[@emilbigum9751]

Imagine every girl saying "No, I have a boyfriend" being canceled... Let the man be..

[@Knockdownisland]

This video insinuated that women felt unsafe because some dude named jasonr wouldn't talk to them lol. Lets take a step back here and realize that you can talk to or not talk to anyone you want its a video game its not that serious.

[@satisfrying5497]

this dude still alive 🤧💀

[@zdklive]

Is it bad that he is alive?

[@iangracia2414]

This seems ridiculous, dodging games just because women are in them doesn’t make any sense if Jason doesn’t cut out all women out of his life. Women are everywhere, you cannot avoid them forever. Respecting a relationship is one thing but not talking and avoiding all women is a totally different beast. There’s gotta be more to the story.

[@im.weasel]

He made a tweet saying that "he" was not faithful to his wife in the past. Its not his wife telling him he can't play with girls. He has made the decision to not play with girls for respect for her. Where this argument falls apart is that he was muting and dodging girls 4 years ago and still was dodging and muting girls recently. I don't know if it's just me, but I feel like 4 years is plenty of time to grow and become a better person for himself and Stephanie. We don't know the entire backstory and maybe things are worse than we see behind the screen with Jay and Stephanie. That's none of our business honestly. I agree with Jay not wanting to share his personal life with everyone, but this could have been a lot better for him if he did.