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@mattj6676
@mattj6676 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty hard to call a $5000 bike underrated. I was hoping for underrated bikes that don't cost as much as a used car.
@oliveralcantara4889
@oliveralcantara4889 2 жыл бұрын
Dfyfim
@gregorytoland
@gregorytoland 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you getting used cars for under 5k in todays market lol
@colbymercado7303
@colbymercado7303 2 жыл бұрын
Yo my car was 2k
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorytoland EVERYWHERE
@dimitriosfotopoulos3689
@dimitriosfotopoulos3689 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed Matt J. Although I would say the use of the word 'underrated', as it's being bandied about in this obvious plug, to be very disingenuous. At $5,000.00 a pop, the manufacturers seem to rate them pretty high.
@Fastcar5000
@Fastcar5000 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Jamis Ventura and it has been in races, commuting, gravel, and trailering my kids around the neighborhood and has performed without a flaw. $525 when I bought it.
@macroglossumstellatarum3068
@macroglossumstellatarum3068 2 жыл бұрын
My first squishy bike was a Jamis Dakar XC Comp. Still have it and it rides like a champ. It’s light af too, got it down to 25 pounds after some part swaps
@sabiti5428
@sabiti5428 2 жыл бұрын
I have a renegade s3 and I love the geometry and having a steel frame
@davidedwards3161
@davidedwards3161 Жыл бұрын
Jamis rules. Owned a 1986 Dakota
@maxgonzalez214
@maxgonzalez214 2 жыл бұрын
2:31 "FELT" I love you man, finally someone recognizes this truly underrated brand, I own a 2017 Felt VR30 and it rocks, its beautiful alloy frame with smoothed down welds almost looks like carbon fiber, it sports a mechanical 105 and I didn't have to sell a kidney to buy it!
@tmayberry7559
@tmayberry7559 2 жыл бұрын
I own two Felt bikes the F60 and F 70. The 60 (Ultegra 10 speed) is more about climbing and comfort while the 70 (105 9 speed) is prone to speed. Love them both. I didn't have to break the bank or sell a kidney to get them
@maxgonzalez214
@maxgonzalez214 2 жыл бұрын
@@tmayberry7559 👍
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 2 жыл бұрын
Weight? I have an aluminum Java with carbon forks that was actually marketed as carbon because of mistranslation (possibly intentional?) and because like you say, the welds are so well done! The only real tell tale is the weight (11kg 😳).
@Yocambio
@Yocambio 2 жыл бұрын
Calling Factor and Orbea underrated is a stretch. Perhaps not well known in the United States but very well known and not at all uncommon in Europe. Both brands are used by UCI professional teams. A better example would be Fuji, particularly after the demise of Performance Cycling shops. Great bikes, affordable but also uncommon.
@Yocambio
@Yocambio 2 жыл бұрын
@obimk1 - Not sure what this has to do with my comment. Superior to what? Since they're not mentioned in the video perhaps you meant to post this comment directly to the original post? I would say that, in the United States, those Dutch brands are not only underrated, they're almost completely unknown / unheard of. I only know about Koga Miyata because of their reputation in the very niche world touring bicycle segment.
@markj.a351
@markj.a351 2 жыл бұрын
Orbea "they're one of our great partners"
@jeremylawson8872
@jeremylawson8872 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Oreba are a big name; even in. Canada.
@randallmason9687
@randallmason9687 2 жыл бұрын
I have a carbon Fuji road bike, and love it!
@run4cmt
@run4cmt 2 жыл бұрын
I ride a Fuji road bike for bike and triathlon racing.
@rogerbloom9721
@rogerbloom9721 2 жыл бұрын
Jamis comes to mind right away.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@sgltrak1
@sgltrak1 2 жыл бұрын
In 1988, a coworker had the Tomac Mongoose and I had the Bridgestone MB-1. They were very similar. I had 4 MB-1s and loved each one. Currently I have a Reynolds 853 Jamis MTB and a FELT MTB in the garage and have been impressed with both.
@newoldsteel
@newoldsteel 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing gets my heart rate up while sitting down than vintage bikes 🤤
@OszoNegro
@OszoNegro 2 жыл бұрын
focus is very underated
@larisonjohnson
@larisonjohnson 2 жыл бұрын
Felt! I love my Z5. Carbon frame, BB30, internal cable routing, endurance geometry, light weight. Very easy to upgrade and all fittings are standard.
@victorrodriguez2806
@victorrodriguez2806 2 жыл бұрын
Basso, Cinelli, Kestrel Yep, those are my picks. I still have all three.
@haddonhts
@haddonhts 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Cinelli last year, it’s now my favourite bike brand. Also love Kestrel, I believe they made the first carbon frame.
@victorrodriguez2806
@victorrodriguez2806 2 жыл бұрын
@@haddonhts the first monocoque U.S. made carbon frame. With an Aluminum fork.
@timothyhollmann8571
@timothyhollmann8571 2 жыл бұрын
Fuji, Kestrel and pre-Trek Gary Fisher thank you....
@Ridewithjst
@Ridewithjst 2 жыл бұрын
Does DeRosa count or are they too visible now?
@victorrodriguez2806
@victorrodriguez2806 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ridewithjst yes DeRosa counts!! Unfortunately, I think they only make their steel frames in house anymore. Someone else is making their carbon frames. I don't know much about their Titanium frames. They were once a coveted frame to own. But the new company leadership has muddied the waters for them.
@robertbonavolta2252
@robertbonavolta2252 2 жыл бұрын
Argon 18 Nitrogen is my current underated road bike- Di2, disc. This is my upgrade from another underrated bike-Litespeed L1R had SRAM red, Reynolds 58 wheels.
@lizwillding8253
@lizwillding8253 2 жыл бұрын
Where was Serotta?
@jackthepickledhound
@jackthepickledhound 2 жыл бұрын
Gone with the wind....I have 2 steel bikes that I got used from the same crazy customer when I worked in the shop
@markmoreno7295
@markmoreno7295 2 жыл бұрын
Most under-rated are the cargo bikes. Workhorse of the post-apocalyptic era and certainly a welcome addition to any ranch on a budget. My favorite was the Yuba Mundo version 3. However Yuba still hand crafts some mullet style bikes with a smaller rear wheel to lower the center of gravity.
@larryfahn132
@larryfahn132 2 жыл бұрын
Devinci... Still made in Canada and very, very rare to have any frame/warranty issues. I've loved Trek for 20 years. But warranty work every year gets old. I went to Devinci and haven't had any issues since 2017.
@robbank8027
@robbank8027 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@shanestarling957
@shanestarling957 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Devinci, I beat the hell out of it and it keep going.
@adriandrozdowski293
@adriandrozdowski293 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I have 2016 carbon Troy and it's held up very well over the years. Aluminum frames were made in canada, but if my info is correct, carbon was made in China. For a carbon frame it's rather heavy, only about 2 pound lighter than aluminum. This way they were able to add more material and provide lifetime warranty on frames.
@brianhagan4728
@brianhagan4728 2 жыл бұрын
Bilenky/Sterling, I have 3 of their bikes, all Reynolds steel, a mountain, and 2 road bikes. My race bike and mountain bike are filet brazed and my training bike is lugged; I’ve been riding them for minimum of 33 years. Steel bikes are far superior in comparison to carbon, except at the very highest levels, such as professional race bikes. But it doesn’t matter, I love them all.
@cperrineIII
@cperrineIII 2 жыл бұрын
Bridgestone for the vintage win! MB-3 and up, mmm triple butted goodness.
@endcensorship874
@endcensorship874 2 жыл бұрын
Had an MB-2 back in the day.
@billfreeborn5356
@billfreeborn5356 2 жыл бұрын
Orbea Orca M20 Team is a fantastic road bike! Light, fast and smooth ride. Love it.
@justinwatts6210
@justinwatts6210 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I have a jamis highpoint and nobody has ever heard of jamis when I bring it to the trail
@RadioReprised
@RadioReprised 2 жыл бұрын
Still riding my '76 Nishiki Sport 10 speed....that's 46 years and original but the tires and brakes. That is quality for $139!
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@RaneBane
@RaneBane 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats buying an old frame and building it up with these years parts
@mjor6406
@mjor6406 2 жыл бұрын
Giant is the most underrated brand. They make bikes in Taiwan for some of the biggest bike brands. They are well priced too. Their bikes ride better than most brands.
@godwindracing6056
@godwindracing6056 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely huge in Asia though
@daniels.2720
@daniels.2720 2 жыл бұрын
I do most of my own bicycle work, yet this goes along with some 'Car Buying advice' I give = find a honest, trustworthy mechanic & buy what he works on. They'll generally give you the hard, unfiltered Truth as they see it...
@1trucxhondamov589
@1trucxhondamov589 2 жыл бұрын
Do you find yourself, actually knowing MORE than a bike mechanic that only seems to make a quick buck ?
@devintaylor8702
@devintaylor8702 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@mileyledford8537
@mileyledford8537 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I went with a Cube Reaction pro from Germany and love it. Wanted a Ghost bike but couldn't find a deal in my size.
@carravagio16
@carravagio16 2 жыл бұрын
for vintage bikes, i think Pro-Flex was way ahead of its time. the 90's was such a great time for MTB innovation and design, sure the bike of today are far superior but still gotta love the history.
@endoalley680
@endoalley680 2 жыл бұрын
In the 1990ś I was a Litespeed fan all the way.
@possibly8180
@possibly8180 2 жыл бұрын
I'd ride their coil-equipped stuff tbh. They actually look fun to ride
@sldoby52
@sldoby52 2 жыл бұрын
Yes my buddy had the pro flex 854 was it 954 something like that it was awesome
@jackthepickledhound
@jackthepickledhound 2 жыл бұрын
Disc brakes are nice and all but 8 is enough. I have a lifetime of replacement drivetrain parts for what a derailleur costs now.
@antonioacuna1486
@antonioacuna1486 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely Orbea. They are really good
@michaelmann6482
@michaelmann6482 2 жыл бұрын
Pre-Trek Fishers we’re pretty innovative. And speaking of pre-Trek, my Bontrager Race is the bike I’m least likely to ever sell. So Fun! If I could get a vintage Bontrager cross bike that would be sweet!
@voodoo7008
@voodoo7008 2 жыл бұрын
I remember looking at Bontrager’s in the lbs. they were so sweet.
@dannytalley5559
@dannytalley5559 2 жыл бұрын
My problem is you got to grease the barons after 100 mile an it's hard to do I go 100 miles in 3 days
@voodoo7008
@voodoo7008 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannytalley5559 which bearings?
@dannytalley5559
@dannytalley5559 2 жыл бұрын
@@voodoo7008 where the paddles go in and I don't know if the if it's a hub or the axle
@wolfman231
@wolfman231 2 жыл бұрын
Pre-Trek Fishers owe a lot to Tom Teesdale. He built the original Mt. Tams.
@DescubriendoLaFlorida
@DescubriendoLaFlorida 2 жыл бұрын
I have 9 GTs from 1992 to 2018. Can't be happier
@dmo9158
@dmo9158 2 жыл бұрын
Fat Chance, hands down for me.
@edmundshaw
@edmundshaw 2 жыл бұрын
Spot, another small US brand with distinct style.
@Mosely2007
@Mosely2007 2 жыл бұрын
Ritchey Road Logic, and Salsa steel gravel. 30 yrs of broken carbon frames. Never again. 2 I have hang unused in years. I like steel tubes
@szymongolis
@szymongolis 2 жыл бұрын
Iconic Triple Triangle GT
@rolandcordero1980
@rolandcordero1980 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Orbea is underrated. They are excellent Spanish made bikes.
@markj.a351
@markj.a351 2 жыл бұрын
made in China.
@JoshuaDomoslai
@JoshuaDomoslai 2 жыл бұрын
Diamondback seems good. Kinesis industry makes the frames which makes many big brand frames. Most models have really good specs, better then more expensive bikes and cheaper price.
@shoff535
@shoff535 2 жыл бұрын
Always been a fan of Calfee.
@andrewpm2
@andrewpm2 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Mongoose BMX bike back in the early 80's so I'd love to see them make a comeback. They should've used this past year of bike shortages to introduce a high quality mid-spec full suspension MTB in both aluminum and carbon . Diamondback tried but did it too soon and their pricing was too aggressive.
@killjoy8914
@killjoy8914 2 жыл бұрын
The Big box mongoose bikes like walmart models are overpriced trash for sure.
@heyg7819
@heyg7819 2 жыл бұрын
I came across a Roger DeCoster Mongoose frame back in the early '80s that I traded to a friend who moved to Alaska with this family. He kept it all those years and build it up for one of his kids around 2009/10, and it turned out amazing.
@tomatostakefabrik9429
@tomatostakefabrik9429 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Mongoose Californian in the 80's . Great bike for the money. Someone stole it on me. I ride an older diamondback overdrive I replaced the lower end components with better. Frame is solid, it rises decent and no one will steal it.
@1trucxhondamov589
@1trucxhondamov589 2 жыл бұрын
Force the new tech on customers.
@1trucxhondamov589
@1trucxhondamov589 2 жыл бұрын
@@killjoy8914 sold out and fell off!
@markito9864
@markito9864 2 жыл бұрын
Miyata Team Pro is very underrated...1st Japanese bike to win a stage in the Tour de France
@miketz9360
@miketz9360 2 жыл бұрын
Have a 916 from 1994. Its sick
@walkingdistrict
@walkingdistrict 2 жыл бұрын
I had a vintage Miyata 712 a few years ago - I loved that thing. Fast and light. Purple. I named her "Tiffany" haha. Rode her from NYC to DC and beyond. But she got stolen :(
@PEDALINGANT
@PEDALINGANT 2 жыл бұрын
Obed & Seven! Was in luv with Inependent Fabrications back in the day never had enough cash for one. Marin and Kona also make great bikes!
@beenrudy
@beenrudy 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 Felt FS mtb. Still daily ridden. I'll hold on to it as long as I can
@NewIndigo
@NewIndigo 2 жыл бұрын
True North. Small company, handmade Canadian bikes are the gold standard adventure/touring bikes for many of us in Ontario.
@adammiller8096
@adammiller8096 2 жыл бұрын
I used to ride Cannondale’s but after all the years of Haro and Cannondale bikes I went back to Huffy. I’m 35 and I found a beautiful Huffy OUTLIER, the original seat was terribly uncomfortable but I put a SELLEROYAL ROYALGEL seat on it and I love it. My first bike I learned to ride on was a HUFFY. Schwinn used to be really nice but after they became a Walmart Target bike they lost something. Huffy is a great brand even though they’re sold at Target and Walmart they’ve always had great style and builds. But what ever happened to HoffmanBikes it’s like they were there then I haven’t seen any of the BMX’s at any of the bike shops I’ve been to.
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the rare and unusual. This was a good vid. For me I was always a big fan of the Unified Rear Triangle. Bikes like the Trek Y series, Klein Mantra, Schwinn homegrown sweet spot, and the Ibis Sazbo. I'm not a fan of 1x drive trains, so any bikes with a front derailleur are very under rated. Thanks.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@Somepepperwiththatsalt
@Somepepperwiththatsalt 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have a verb gt and i sold it due to a move and no use anymore. I had 4k miles on it and commuted it daily only ever had a tube change. I need a new bike and my budget is 500-700$ and i was looking at a Schwinn super sport. Beverage of your comment i think i will side with it.
@basilyashchenko5389
@basilyashchenko5389 2 жыл бұрын
KLEIN
@johndavis6871
@johndavis6871 2 жыл бұрын
GT iDrive functionally changed the game by solving the suspension kickback problem.
@macroglossumstellatarum3068
@macroglossumstellatarum3068 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shot I’m Lithuanian and I haven’t even heard of wittson. It is now my dream bike.
@bobbyhempel1513
@bobbyhempel1513 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Giant brand bicycles after all they make Treks frames for them you get the same quality build same quality components for far less money and their customer service is amazing.
@richf.7845
@richf.7845 2 жыл бұрын
Still have my old Turner Flux. Dave Turner did some innovative stuff, made a quality frame and their customer service was second to none.
@northernairmtb4183
@northernairmtb4183 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a Turner
@aaronwebster5685
@aaronwebster5685 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, Dave designed and made quality bikes. I rode my Turner Flux today in the forest. Great bikes.
@Romanonissimo
@Romanonissimo 2 жыл бұрын
Built m'y Production Privée SHANN5 this week. Loved the vid ! Peace
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rebeccas7450
@rebeccas7450 2 жыл бұрын
Felt all the way. We have several felt bikes, xc road and trail. Just put together awesome build with edict carbon frame. Love it. Just sad felt isn't making mtn bikes anymore.
@grantbuxton
@grantbuxton 2 жыл бұрын
I had a schwinn 1987 trainer bike from the Olympics, it was in Colorado Springs, beautiful light blue with silver and yellow highlights, it had an aluminum crankset and chain movers, I was told it was one of three training rigs, I can't remember exactly the name, air craft aluminum
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@wolfman231
@wolfman231 2 жыл бұрын
Pet peeve: the T in often is silent, (or at least soft,) like the T in soften, or fabric softener.
@skiak004
@skiak004 2 жыл бұрын
I raced that Tomac to many victories back in the 80's. It was a blast to ride- very forgiving and balanced. Sold it because I got sponsored by Diamond Back (still have their titanium race bike hanging in my garage) and the girlfriend was getting mad about all the biikes filling up our space. Wish I had kept that bike.
@tongalizia3175
@tongalizia3175 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sure is nice to hear that there’s a twin brother that has that many bikes…… Trimble time trial bike was a lot of fun
@jethrohealy3277
@jethrohealy3277 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Some underrated or slightly less well known brands to add here would be Basso (Italian) and Pyga (South African).
@robertcrawford718
@robertcrawford718 2 жыл бұрын
Priority. Their "gimmick" is that all of their bikes use belt drive.
@michigandogman3060
@michigandogman3060 2 жыл бұрын
I rode a Takara bmx bike in the late 70’s and it was a pretty cool bike, I had the JT racing seat, SR bar stem, and Z rims.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@Mottleydude1
@Mottleydude1 2 жыл бұрын
My most under rated bike…and I probably win this for vintage bikes, was a Huffy Road bike. This was no ordinary Huffy. In the mid 80’s Huffy made some pro quality steel bikes for 7-11, La Vie Claire and the U.S. Olympic team (Alexis Grewal won gold on a Huffy Road bike). The bikes frames were constructed under the supervision of Ben Serrota. Ben later sold these bikes under his own name as the Serrota Colorado. I was able to buy an overstock model as my sister worked at Huffy’s main plant in Celina, OH and they had made a few extra of these bikes available for sale to employees for $1000. So when she told me about the offer I gave her the money to buy it for me. Oh the teasing I got from guys on that bike. It was painted in the U.S. Olympic Team colors (matte red) but only had the Huffy logo. I had the last laugh as that True Temper framed bike with Dura Ace was as good as any European made road bike. Still folks would look at the Huffy logo and snicker about it. It was an excellent steel framed bike that had an unfortunately short life when I had a major crash and bent the top tube, head tube and down tube.
@saltygenx2743
@saltygenx2743 2 жыл бұрын
I used to own a Montgomery Ward aeromega road bike. That bike was a beast.
@Mottleydude1
@Mottleydude1 2 жыл бұрын
@@saltygenx2743 I bet it was. It probably weighed close to 30#.
@saltygenx2743
@saltygenx2743 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mottleydude1 yeah it was heavy, it moved when I converted it to a gravel bike, before gravel bikes were popular. I kept the drive line though. That huge front chainring made all the difference.
@victorrodriguez2806
@victorrodriguez2806 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! How lucky you were!!! I was racing cat 1 in California and Japan. I knew exactly what that bike was. Boy!! To have one now would be golden!! Wow!! I didn't know they made extras.
@Mottleydude1
@Mottleydude1 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorrodriguez2806 They only had a few. The one I had was a second due to some cosmetic blemishes. I was just lucky in that there were only a handful of people in little rural Celina who were into road bike riding and that my sister worked at Huffy’s. I never thought of it back then of being a collectors item because…well…it was a Huffy. LOL
@michaelmyers7416
@michaelmyers7416 2 жыл бұрын
Fat Chance, my bike for 1991 Montezuma’s Revenge.
@johnelbersii7108
@johnelbersii7108 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Fairdale Weekender and Iove having the only one in town. Steel, durable, and very cool.
@zenofthemoment
@zenofthemoment 2 жыл бұрын
And designed by one of the raddest BMXers of all time, Taj Mihelich! 🤘
@Icehso140
@Icehso140 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Orbea inspite of propriety parts like pivots and hangers.
@denvermatt
@denvermatt Жыл бұрын
I had a Mongoose mountain in bike 1989 (6th grade) that I bought with newspaper money at Bicycle Village in Littleton, Colorado. It sat next to my neon green Haro Master bmx freestyle bike. People would stop me all the time to ask me about mountain bikes since they were so new in the area. The top tube was so long that I felt like I was riding a Kawaski ninja, which at 12yrs old that looked cool :) Now I'm old and I love my ebike thumbs up
@fiLthy_Rx
@fiLthy_Rx Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear someone mention FELT, I definitely think FELT has some of the most solid road bike offerings coming out of the United States, and they're never pulling any gimmicky bullshit such as TREK and Specialized.
@JasonScottCarter
@JasonScottCarter 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie Bikes is pretty underrated. I currently ride a Spot Ryve 115. So I will say Spot Bikes as well because that thing is awesome!
@johnschmidt2766
@johnschmidt2766 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Really like it. I put 130 on the front. Climbs like a hardtail but w suspension always on!
@walkingdistrict
@walkingdistrict 2 жыл бұрын
Love Jamis! Have their touring bike - Aurora Elite - and the components are real nice for the price I paid. Rides like Cadillac.
@grantwelch9255
@grantwelch9255 2 жыл бұрын
Commencal for sure!
@MrRSCHECK
@MrRSCHECK 2 жыл бұрын
Late 80s and early 90s Novara bikes... Scott Nicol frame designs then followed by Tange Ultralight frames. Great bikes and specs on the higher end models.
@JuanWay2Rock
@JuanWay2Rock 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...I'll admit that I once rode a "John Tomac" signature GIANT 990 full suspension bike back in the day...awesome bike for its time.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@thegoods9317
@thegoods9317 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on a Druid and it hasn't disappointed. Such a fun rig!
@aironbaron
@aironbaron 2 жыл бұрын
I have never ridden one, but the Forsaken brand is so cool looking haha
@markuskorn4829
@markuskorn4829 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a split down tube on a mongoose mtn bike that was made of carbon fiber from the 90’s
@jackthepickledhound
@jackthepickledhound 2 жыл бұрын
Mongoose bought that frame from some little company....can't think of it. They were just not strong enough.
@scotthamilton1054
@scotthamilton1054 2 жыл бұрын
As a roadie… I’m really impressed with my tarmac sl6.. I ride amongst a lot of buddies that ride some sexy “off brand” rigs,, a year or so in they are busting spokes Also, I never would have thought this but my specialized is faster… it’s pretty obvious amongst the group that the wind tunnel designed frame makes a big difference. It’s all about the frame design and this is where I think we should be looking. How much R&D is put into the frame design
@manuelsanmartin4124
@manuelsanmartin4124 2 жыл бұрын
Still ride my Calfee Luna Pro from 1999 great solid bike.
@Pudding175
@Pudding175 2 жыл бұрын
Mongoose definitely still makes high quality bikes. You just have to buy one at a real bike shop or directly from them.
@Dragon1165
@Dragon1165 2 жыл бұрын
Still love the older bikes, Chicago Schwinn, FUJI, a few others... there's a reason they last
@mikewalker2274
@mikewalker2274 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce is underrated. I would rather him as a sportscaster than half the dudes with the actual job. Very personable and clear.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
We like him too!
@endoalley680
@endoalley680 2 жыл бұрын
Carbonda. I just built an FM1002 and an FM909. Also ICAN Bikes. I have their full suspension fat bike. And a P9.
@mattdubbz6508
@mattdubbz6508 2 жыл бұрын
Marin
@lakerrob5514
@lakerrob5514 2 жыл бұрын
Jamis has a nice line and very under rated.
@c.d.3485
@c.d.3485 2 жыл бұрын
I've started going old school vintage and have left my Specialized Secteur in the garage for a long time now and ride my 1984 Moulton APB, though it did need a bit of individualising, better gears and bars etc.
@jackferris999
@jackferris999 2 жыл бұрын
Otso - I’ve ridden their full range haven’t found another company with as much consistency in terms of ride quality and thoughtful design. Bonus points for having great customer service.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@noahthegildedone5917
@noahthegildedone5917 2 жыл бұрын
Guerrilla Gravity for the win! Had mine since 2019 and it's unbreakable! Eats up park days and single track.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@chasendirtmtb
@chasendirtmtb 2 жыл бұрын
And also salsa, their cutthroat gravel’s geometry is soooo comfortable
@grndezyns
@grndezyns 2 жыл бұрын
I still ride my Aegis, Aro Svelte, purchased over 20 years ago. Underrated, and extremely rare. I may have seen one or two of them in person.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@criticalmile
@criticalmile 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated is Fuji I have a transonic 2.1 and the bike is amazing 👍🏻
@andrewrebeiro7495
@andrewrebeiro7495 2 жыл бұрын
Diamondback has always been a well priced brand.
@jasonwooden
@jasonwooden 2 жыл бұрын
Can attest. Just prior to COVID I scooped up a new Diamondback Overdrive carbon HT 29er with SRAM 1x11 and Rock Shock Reba for $1100. Weighed 21lbs out of the box. Gosh I love that bike.
@Jproulx426
@Jproulx426 2 жыл бұрын
I shopped for a long time for something rugged and truly jump worthy and in fell in love with NS Bikes, I would have paid twice what I did for my Soda Slope if I went with one of the big brands like a the specialized demo which was my original desire.
@pedaleone
@pedaleone 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated and with their particular frame design which allow me to go further/ longer rides would be PARLEE! Small brand made in Boston - Massachusetts By Bob Parlee, someone who has developed a “unique” carbon layout that gives you better long term reliable, lighter, comfortable frame. Have the ALTUM DISC and it’s a nice to have something kind of “particular “ Love the comfort (even if the shape it’s something that doesn’t kill me) and they are pretty decent about their power transfer. And it’s one of the few brand that offers lifetime warranty on their frame too.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@cra_55
@cra_55 2 жыл бұрын
I think most brand snobs overlook bikes from Decathlon. Sure the cheaper end of their catalog is rubbish, but their more expensive stuff are actually decent options for more casual and beginner cyclists.
@stephenbethell7548
@stephenbethell7548 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, many look down upon Decathalon but I have a full suspension model ST540S , for the price I simply can't fault it. I'm 69 though so no radical stunts for me :-( But it does spend most of its time off road :-)
@ItsMorbinTime03
@ItsMorbinTime03 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most extreme example of underrated. Got to test st530 and it's great for the price! 350€ for hydraulic brakes, 1x9 advent drivetrain with clutch and decent quality wheels with in my opinion above average qr skewers is a great deal. Only thing that made me angry was seatpost. Straight to trash, it 700g (1.5lb) with no adjustment piece of garbage. Another story is my friend that won several xc races on rockrider xc100. Reputation of Decathlon bikes is ruined by kids abusing them at local spots.
@Leslie-ye2is
@Leslie-ye2is 8 ай бұрын
Ive recently purchased a Keith Davis 708 racer, I'm interested in what your thoughts are on the bike. Keith Davis was living in Canberra, act of Australia.
@cabarete2003
@cabarete2003 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pro or a very good amateur for that matter...but I have an old Univega and I love it. So light. Everything on it works and after all this time (since the 90's) it is still great for the trails I ride.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@matthewheimann4492
@matthewheimann4492 2 жыл бұрын
Team Fat Chance! The new Yo Eddie is spectacular!
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@intraterrestrial69
@intraterrestrial69 2 жыл бұрын
Vitus. Very simple looking carbon road bikes that have a classic style. They’re skinny and don’t look like they’re from the future, but still have a striking appearance. Attention is diverted away from the seat tube to an extent that it looks like a parallelogram rather than a double triangle.
@augustinekentli8772
@augustinekentli8772 4 ай бұрын
My ultimate both road bike and gravel bike brand is Favaloro. The Favaloro Arch and the Favaloro Fire; they are both completely rare to find and only comes in a frameset. But then they are like the prize bike to have.
@matthewbloom19
@matthewbloom19 2 жыл бұрын
Trinity Mountain Bikes looks to be doing some cool things, definitely, worth looking at.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
👀
@NeilKasselman
@NeilKasselman 2 жыл бұрын
Liteville. Aluminum art. German, incredibly well engineered. 10 year TRANSFERABLE warranty (so good resale) and hands down the the best mountain (and gravel) bike you will ever ride. can't get better. the Koeningsegg of bicycles.
@theproscloset
@theproscloset 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@DIY-DaddyO
@DIY-DaddyO Жыл бұрын
80’s mountain bike Bromwich Cyclone. Hand made 531 Reynolds tubing. Yum.
@CT37BN
@CT37BN 2 жыл бұрын
Cube bicycles puts really good mid-to-high level parts on their bikes as compared to more popular brands that have more mid-to-low just because the frame is more known.
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 2 жыл бұрын
Correct . cube is in no way underrated in Europe . their frames are massed produced as most bikes are but what makes them standout is you get very good components for a very fair price and their bikes are designed and assembled in Germany which gives them a huge amount of quality control and their service network is gigantic .
@pappydaddy7447
@pappydaddy7447 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Mongoose Tomac Signature that I bought new in 1988 and raced. It really is a fabulous bike. Light and fast.
@ameykamat5918
@ameykamat5918 2 жыл бұрын
I have been using Decathlons Van Rysel for a year now. Good value for money endurance bike but isn't much talked about
@markadams8041
@markadams8041 2 жыл бұрын
Redline is my favorite. I found a one speed steel 29er at a steal five years ago. I did make triple money from it and I still hate that I let it go.
@slayerkillkillkill2212
@slayerkillkillkill2212 2 жыл бұрын
I still ride my rocky mountain full fox suspension . It's 20+ yrs old.. it's not in excellent condition. But it's never let me down. Definitely due for a one over.
@jackthepickledhound
@jackthepickledhound 2 жыл бұрын
I have one like that that needs a home
@bartmullin8018
@bartmullin8018 2 жыл бұрын
An acquaintance of mine has a Diamondback (their version of a Santa Cruz Bronson) that is apparently better (stiffer frame) And cheaper. So, according to my acquaintance's experience as a rider/mechanic, Diamondback could qualify as sadly underrated.
@justinfletcher5189
@justinfletcher5189 2 жыл бұрын
My 2016 Diamondback podium Equipe road bike is criminally underrated. When Accell Group sold the brand to Regent L.P. They appear to have given up on road bike R&D.
@kevindequeiroz6122
@kevindequeiroz6122 2 жыл бұрын
Still loving my Canfield Brother's EPO.
@kaltonian
@kaltonian 2 жыл бұрын
druid were one of the 1st for high pivot bikes and lead the way really
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