These Are Some of the Ugliest Tram Systems in the World (Top 10 Cities with Ugly Trams)

[@joannmceachin9010]

Just because they are different and older does not mean they are ugly! They are all cool and special.

[@kailideaza9302]

Well it is his Opinion! You have to understand this!

[@BillLaBrie]

Nahh, some are just freaking ugly.

[@cat9083]

@@BillLaBrie shut up

[@blakelockridge6145]

@JoAnn McEachin I do agree with... you public transport don’t have to be similar in all countries and the fact they are different make them special nice and cool

[@boi497]

I agree

[@jg-7780]

I think they all have their unique charms

[@fritzyboi6390]

Yeah, I like the one in Lille, France. I'm not much of a fan of low floor trams, but this one I like

[@nelsonricardo3729]

@Payton Maximo Nice try. You're either in cahoots or are the same person as this spammer.

[@gravelpit1960]

Even shit have uniqe charm

[@shanewalters4171]

I think the ones in Boston are interesting looking, they even have my favorite color on them, lol

[@clauddcruz31]

@@fritzyboi6390 &khkkkhkkkkkk

[@baronjutter]

There's absolutely nothing remarkably ugly about most of these trams. Almost all of them are just very normal average looking trams for their era.

[@KasabianFan44]

…which makes them ugly.

[@MusikCassette]

@@KasabianFan44 No it does not.

[@FenceThis]

they make ugly screeching noises

[@AtoZbyLocalBus]

​@@FenceThis most trains and trams do make ugly screeching noises, when going around corners. More so the faster they go around the corner.

[@Whycantichangemyhandle.]

Right!

[@danielp1728]

we no longer use the CLRV anymore in Toronto. and they are not ugly, the are actually pretty cool

[@TheBurlingtonTransitFan]

They actually appeared in several movies too!

[@FenceThis]

Yeah, quite nice looking and pleasant sounding too

[@thomaskirchmeier6649]

The Torontoan CLRV was a modern swiss version of a PCC-Car.

[@trollface5084]

Idk but CLRV looks like Tatra T3 trams

[@aodhganmerrimac]

@@trollface5084 I think the Tatra T3 was also based on PCC design & tech.

[@randomroveruk6715]

Beauty (and ugliness) are in the eye of the beholder. What is ugly is the amount of litter in Buenos Aires!

[@elconquistador932]

I thought it was down town Portland for a moment 😉

[@edgardojaviercanu4740]

But it is still a wonderful city.

[@randomroveruk6715]

@@edgardojaviercanu4740 I expect it is, though I don't suppose I will ever visit it. There are many wonderful places, but litter does not do them justice.

[@sergios515]

@Random Rover UK The Premetro runs by some of the poorest neighborhoods in Buenos Aires City. It is a feeder of one subway line to the Center. BA isn't a european-like clean city, but the Premetro Zone is not very representative, and definitely not touristic.

[@randomroveruk6715]

@@sergios515 Sorry, Sergio, if I'm unsympathetic to your city, especially when I've never been. I didn't mean to be, and I realise that the difference between rich and poor is greater in a lot of countries compared with Europe. At least you have a tram system! We had them in lots of towns in the UK until the mid-20th century and then they all got replaced with buses. However, they are slowly making a comeback in some cities, but in London there is just the Croydon tram in the suburbs, making London one of the few capital cities in Europe without trams in the centre.

[@scottyerkes1867]

The trams are not the best looking but they don't polute and keep autos off the streets

[@nelsonricardo3729]

Better-looking trams also keep cars off the street and don’t pollute.

[@scottyerkes1867]

@@nelsonricardo3729 Absolutely!!!

[@sharannadeeproyroy6211]

And some place trams are curbed to give cars and autos space!

[@Kaslidaughterofchaos]

@@scottyerkes1867 wdym not the best looking I would kill to own one of these trams ;-;

[@scottyerkes1867]

@@Kaslidaughterofchaos thanks William 123xx

[@RealConstructor]

I don’t mind trams and streetcars being old as long as they are well maintained.

[@juliewebb9025]

Just like the KTM 5.

[@massimopalomba5009]

Milan Peter Witt are very old (build in 1928-1930) e well maintained, for exemple. Over 100 unities are still in daily service, part of originally 500.

[@harryscorah2091]

As a Mancunian, I have a soft spot for the M-5000s. I think their high floor makes them look quite unique too (they were built like that to operate on former railway lines taken over by the metrolink like the Bury and Altrincham!).

[@lzh4950]

Somehow I remember they're quite noisy though when going round corners

[@harryscorah2091]

@@lzh4950 That’s definitely true, although the noise level is far lower on newer sections of track such as the second city crossing via Exchange Square.

[@lzh4950]

@@harryscorah2091 I 1st experienced that kind of NVH when riding the Bombardier Cobra in Zurich & originally thought it was due to it's low-floor design preventing its bogies from rotating round corners (& thus increasing wheel slippage). But then I realise the M5000 is high-floor & has a similar NVH, which somehow some other low-floor trams e.g. Siemens Combino in Amsterdam, Bombardier Flexity in Berlin don't have

[@hobog]

I forgot Mancunian means of Manchester

[@enthusiastisch1922]

@@hobog Same.

[@joegermains]

manchester trams are nice imo

[@koekelakouwnt7949]

It's just the high floors not being very attractive. Sort of like LA.

[@ProStevenPlayz]

@@koekelakouwnt7949 But a lot of trams use high floor.

[@sgtdebones]

@@ProStevenPlayz Not in NA. Majority of LRT here are low floor with the exception of Los Angeles, Calgary, Edmonton, St. Louis, Mexico City, Monterrey, and to an extent, San Francisco and Pittsburgh.

[@douglasthompson296]

In there defense Manchester started the tram (Metro) system using existing train lines with existing higher platforms. All the newer lines and station stops were then built the same so the trams could use any line at any time. Manchester is to be applauded for taking the initiative to bring back non polluting fast and safe mass transit system. Of course I live in Manchester, so I would be biased 😏

[@juliewebb9025]

Yeah, M5000 trams are nice

[@offichannelnurnberg5894]

American public transport always has the looks to it that it is only meant for the scum... In Europe it is meant for everyone, it is polished, low-floor-entrance and most of the stations appear nice

[@TheBurlingtonTransitFan]

Shut up. You europeans always think you are so great! Yall aren't!

[@TheBurlingtonTransitFan]

The CLRVs are the best.

[@andreiurs]

@@TheBurlingtonTransitFan typical American seppo lol. Not going to ask you where the European cities on video are located lol

[@automation7295]

@@TheBurlingtonTransitFan You haven't have been to Europe, so you don't assume anything. Please leave this planet, go to Mars.

[@briandynamite7942]

In many actuality large cities like Boston, New York, Chicago etc, they were never ment for “scum” yeah the trains are a bit old, some of the stations are really old. The Europeans had to rebuild all of the trams, trains, stations etc after WW2. After ww2 America just made massive highways. In some parts of the country public transit is seen as poor, but that’s for things like buses, buses are cheap, dirty, and poor.

[@Skyfoogle]

i'm not sure how you find toronto's CLRVs ugly, but they've been retired since 2019

[@xzchc]

I thought they look pretty.

[@curtyn9183]

It says in vid

[@233CFH]

I personally don't think any trams/lightrails/streetcars are ugly. I love all types of trains from all different countries.

[@JudgeMarmianWiZard]

i use them sometimes and think they are too cramped seats together and small seats....also the tram shelters are too small...most people in england are fat

[@233CFH]

@@JudgeMarmianWiZard Yes, I can definitely agree with the cramped seats. That's how our light rails are here in Jersey City, NJ. But there's a section where the seats aren't in rows and you can have much better legroom.

[@Patrick_RBX]

@@JudgeMarmianWiZard well thats not the tram companys fault its the problem with the people also being fat is probably not healthy

[@JudgeMarmianWiZard]

@@Patrick_RBX it is abit, manchester trams were made in Italy where its hot, it shows as the shelters let rain and wind in. I prefer the sheffield trams as they are roomier and have staff onboard making it safer and you can buy your ticket from them instead of rushing on those vending machines before tram arrives. Its not just about being fat..those seats are very small..just the size for an 8 year old!

[@shanewalters4171]

I agree, regardless of their design, we should love them for what they are regardless

[@rickybee]

I remember way back when the CLRV started replacing PCCs in Toronto. My first thought was: These cars will never have the long life that the PCCs had. But they lasted 40 years, and they had windows with sliding bottoms that could open! My same thoughts in Philadelphia, when the K cars replaced the subway/surface. And here we are, again over 40 years later, and they are still operating and look fantastic. In both cities, these replacement cars had longer than most of the PCCs. (Notice I did not write 'all'). For some reason I also like the trolley pole, probably because that is what I grew up with in Pittsburgh.

[@Laughandsong]

What exactly is "ugly" about these systems? The fact that they don't pollute makes them beautiful!

[@Bloor25]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@qjtvaddict]

Old rolling stock

[@ilikeoranges9653]

In some cities trams don't use electricity, they use diesel.

[@ronylouis0]

@@ilikeoranges9653 like 4 cities in the world and they still pollute less what's your point

[@RealConstructor]

The ones in Buenos Aires seem to ride on a garbage dump. So much litter, I think people use it as a trash can.

[@pbasswil]

What an unusual pretext for a video. These machines are all interesting and diverse solutions to local conditions. The 'pretty' and 'ugly' that you refer to only reflects your personal tastes. What you find ugly, I find quirky and fascinating!

[@chickenbokernot2598]

is this your very first time seeing an opinion-based video on youtube? it’s very common and not “unusual”

[@grahamariss2111]

To me Trandheim trams are beautifully functional, as trams should be. Simple and unfussy but without the crude brutality of the Soviet designs.

[@hanslembl9103]

The "Soviet design" in Nishni Novgorod is really a Czech design as far as I know.

[@grahamariss2111]

@@hanslembl9103 I was drawing a comparison with that Soviet classic the KTM 5, which has a lot to be said for it, but it is brutal in its simplicity.

[@SiqueScarface]

@@hanslembl9103 No, the KTM-5 is a soviet design. It looks a little bit like the KT4 or the T6 from Tatra, but it was designed and built in Ust-Kataw, today's Russia. A similar design was used by the polish Konstal 105N. Its predecessor, the Konstal 102N, is even more strange. The overall body shape is based on the Tatra T1, which in turn is based on the PCC waggon. But the front and back don't fit the overall rounded design, and are completely angular shaped.

[@marina28zg]

I agree ... nice trams. but white does not suit them.

[@slavakaza]

@@hanslembl9103 The design is actually the only thing about that cars that is not Czech. They were initially designed based on the Tatra T3 optically and technically in russian Ust-Katav with few modernisations. However after some prototypes they changed the optical design into something more edgy looking nothing like the T3 anymore.

[@fasol1998]

None of these trams are ugly. Setting the question this way is really weird.

[@johngardner5636]

Yes! Anyway, how is ugly defined?

[@chickenbokernot2598]

@@johngardner5636 personally not liking the look of something, it doesn’t matter what your own opinion is.

[@LO-lm4zh]

The audacity of putting TTC streetcars on this list

[@davidt-rex2062]

Manchester is awesome. Actually they are all pretty awesome systems

[@commentinspector728]

Yea Manchester trams are nice looking. Except for the front I think it needs redesigning

[@chrispontani6059]

I love Boston’s green line. Granted it avoided it like the plague when I lived there, but it’s far from the ugliest.

[@Actual-Knight]

me the entire video: yeah I guess I can see why that one's ugly me when the Toronto streetcars appear: I will FIGHT you Timothy

[@pierreernoult]

Le tram de Paris est super beau ! ;-)

[@luciedvorakova2167]

Oui! Ils sont beaux, en particulier les nouveaux modeles.

[@hanslembl9103]

Oui, vraiment. Le design est tres beau.

[@johnloncar7785]

Je préfère le tram de Lille

[@partickdistel6580]

Je prefereert un croissant avec hagelslag

[@harri2626]

Your video should be called "These are some of the Oldest Trams" as many are 25+ years old. Styles have moved on, but at the time they were built they were "state of the art". Most of them would look far better if they had proper liveries and not disfigured with vinyl advertising wraps.

[@mariopigwa8538]

0:21 At first I thought it was a post-Soviet country. I can't believe this is "America".

[@ahyes589]

Many parts of Massachusetts look like that, as Boston itself is one of the oldest cities in the country

[@mariopigwa8538]

@@ahyes589 In comparision with Europe, today even with Central Europe, looks poor. :( Your infrastructure must be improved soon. :( Here you have Warsaw for example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXW4Y4yLgJKKd6c

[@ahyes589]

@@mariopigwa8538 Looks way better than Boston that's for sure. The state is always working on infrastructure, but with the amount of harsh weather and traffic it degrades faster than they can maintain it

[@mariopigwa8538]

@@ahyes589 I agree with you, but see what money China is investing in infrastructure where traffic is much higher. See what it looks like... As I was in the USA, I had the impression that the greatest investments in infrastructure took place in the 1950s and 1960s. Since then, little has been invested. :(

[@andrew_ray]

@@mariopigwa8538 It's widely agreed that the US has some of the worst public transit in the developed world. The problem is that there is a widespread misconception here that public transit is for "lazy poor people" who "can't be bothered to get a job and buy a car." I've actually heard people use the term "transit peasant" unironically. And thus, there is a sizable contingent who will throw a fit whenever the government suggests spending _their_ tax dollars on transit that they will never use. Meanwhile nobody ever sees an issue with spending _our_ tax dollars on roads that we never use.

[@ramanandbhatt7775]

One who has graded them as ugliest is a real idiot or a fool. All of these trams are an unique symbol of their country & people are proud of this ancient system.

[@rash_a_agil]

I've been wondering.. If you take the tram do you need to ring the bell for it to stop at station you wanted to disembark? Or it will stop at every station its passing by just like LRT/MRT? Anyway, I enjoy looking at the tram, they nvr look ugly to me.

[@joesmith8701]

the only tram systm ive been on is manchester and it works like a train it stops at every stop

[@hesterbeard]

It depends on the system

[@joachimlabudde3260]

As a fan of any railroad I think it makes no sense to vote for the most ugly tram. All the trams shown have their beauty within the limitations of technical nrcessities. With your video footages you could have ask for the most beautyful one also. I found the french trams very well designed.

[@picklejuice1277]

I’m from Manchester and I get the tram to school everyday I think they are perfectly fine.

[@Bloor25]

i agree

[@David-ts8zn]

Same i live in Manchester they are smooth fast and it way more faster than the buses

[@picklejuice1277]

@@David-ts8zn I bloody love em. Agreed so smooth Gets you to A and to B in no time at all.

[@David-ts8zn]

@@picklejuice1277 i wonder if they will do express Middleton to piccadilly or manchester airport express

[@trevordance5181]

My local tram system is the Croydon Tramlink in South London. I wonder how that would rate in the ugly stakes?

[@gamereric2189]

Nah, those are nice. They look very modern and pretty imo

[@bowlerstuff9589]

@@gamereric2189 ,despite some of them being nearly 20,the livery makes them look really good

[@Tolya1979]

'Ugly' is a relative term.

[@edgardojaviercanu4740]

They seem beautiful to me. Thank you for showing the Buenos Aires Premetro. Even the inhabitants of our city forget there is a pair of tram lines here.

[@seanpatrickmccarthy1]

The Manchester M5000 is identical to many other Bombardier high floor Flexity trams used in Frankfurt and Koln. The Manchester, Lille, Toronto and Paris trams do not belong on this list. They are modern, efficient and attractive.

[@edprior2821]

Toronto's CLRVs and their articulated variant the ALRVs were weird ducks, but they were well liked and served for almost 40 years. I doubt their replacement Flexities will last nearly as long. A favourite memory I have of these streetcars is riding beside my then 3 year old son on the seats just behind the rear doors. Being high floor with opening windows my son was eye-to-eye with the driver of a pickup truck that was stopped beside us at every stop and having a great conversation every block. Made my day, made my son's day, and I hope it made the truck driver's day.

[@JimmiAlli]

Manchester’s trams are lovely.

[@yorkie556]

The Toronto CLRV has become an icon of the City. They no longer run but I love the design. I love Manchester MetroLink.

[@wilfstor3078]

The fact that the CLRV was deemed uglier than the Soviet Brutalist KTM-5 insults me on a personal level

[@chance2526]

The most nostalgic and old trams still exist. They can be found in Calcutta, India. First horse drawn tram started running in 1873 and the first electric tram started running in 1902. Calcutta still preserved the old world trams and system is still running in the same condition.

[@The_Weirdstar]

Some of those Trams would be better than some of the ones we have here in Melbourne (which is also currently the worlds largest tram network). Try taking a Z-Class tram on an extremely hot/cold day. with no Air-conditioning and limited heating... can make for an extremely unpleasant journey

[@Aehnen_Kohben]

I don’t think there is anything wrong with the trams in Manchester. I find them quite modern compared to others in the list. I may be biased because I regularly commute on the Metrolink

[@AviatorCameron]

M5000s are comfy

[@johnhammond5022]

Indeed. Just a shame Manchester wasn't brave enough actually to call them trams. Metrolink: I ask you!

[@nelsonricardo3729]

Hudson-Bergen Light Rail and Newark Light Rail are sorely missing from this list. They hurt my eyes.

[@LSM_Lover]

YES

[@Bobrogers99]

Some of these trams are just old and dated, but I'm sure they have their fans. As a former Boston resident, I must admit that even the brand-new Green Line trams look old and dated. They lack the sleek styling of trams and light rail trains in many other cities.

[@briandelamater8887]

I disagree in calling these ugly. Some models are old. True. Nothing wrong with them.

[@michealfeeney8920]

So, question. What was your criteria for this list then? Okay, these are not hyper futuristic looking stylish, but they are clearly well desgined for their purpose, short haul transportation of mid to large numbers of passengers between two points for the length of their work day

[@sweetlakers]

With all the modern look-a-like trams now a days; i love to see these trams. They are beautifull! Especially the KTM-5; really stunning.

[@gerdpapenburg7050]

Have you ever been to Würzburg, Germany and have seen the GT-N 6xNfGITwER?

[@honkhonk8009]

no

[@alextaie-rieur2035]

4:41 This rolling stock operates only on this line because it's the oldest, the 9 other lines got much recent trains. I don't call ugly tho. Also this line (T1) crosses some of the poorest parts of Paris region, it is not running downtown

[@nelsonricardo3729]

Oh, I see. The poor deserve ugly transport. Got it loud and clear.

[@Baloongis2]

@@nelsonricardo3729 well atleast they have transport plus i actually quite like these trams

[@yobb1n544]

YOU PUT THE CLRV's FROM TORONTO IN THIS HOW COULD YOU

[@automation7295]

Timosha21 has no taste, none of the trams are ugly. People who think trams are ugly should've been born in 1776, so they wouldn't make it into 21st century. Trams aren't cars, so no trams are ugly. Any rail vehicles aren't ugly. So Timosha21 calls tram ugly because they're small and seats are cramped, I bet Timosha21 also thinks trams are ugly because they don't belong on the roads.

[@luzflorez8558]

The TTC (toronto transit commission) has retired all of those streetcars 2 years ago. The new ones look very nice and modern.

[@qjtvaddict]

Facts

[@christophermatthews6972]

And the old ones were elegant.

[@thestig3601]

Instead of getting rid of litterally all of the BEAUTIFUL old trams in Blackpool like the stupid transport company did Why did they just keep about 5 or 6 of them Reason cost of the upkeep & maintenance work old the older ones became extremely expensive. & They couldn't be bothered to keep more of them SADLY MANY was DESTROYED & SCRAPPED!!!! but a very, very few got sold privately & turned into either a holiday home or a café or something else. SO SAD!!! that these BEAUTIFUL old iconic trams were lost FOREVER!!! & We are lumbered with these REPULSIVE things they have the ORDASITY to call a tram more like a small train than a tram. 👎👎👎👎👎😠😠😠😠😠💩💩💩💩💩 & That's just being polite.

[@tobeytransport2802]

I like the Manchester one... it’s styled like a metro but with the expense of a tram and that’s good 👍

[@24ada97]

I wanted to say the same thing

[@sollows44]

I agree with many of the commentators: Toronto's single unit CLRVs were not ugly and I'm shocked to learn that they were withdrawn from service in 2019. I'm actually old enough that I thought of them as the "new" trams as I witnessed them replacing the PCCs starting in the late 70s. What was truly ugly in the history of Toronto's public transit was the tossing of the city's entire fleet of trolly buses and replacing them with diesel units. It was particularly awful on routes such as Bay St., the downtown portion of which was narrow and highly populated with pedestrian traffic.

[@popcorn19761]

I won't term them ugly : they are special in their own ways.

[@cluster3859]

agreed

[@davidPTcruiser]

Lots of people don’t agree with your opinion

[@henrymulvey6599]

why are the MBTA Type 7's on here, those are not ugly at all

[@henrymulvey6599]

the KTM's are the worst

[@billpenna]

Manchester and Lille are quite lovely imo.

[@ianmansbridge3646]

Who cares what they look like? Question is how effective are they as transport? I grew up with London's excellent transit system and I have found Manchester Metro system equally effective and reliable plus very disabled accessable. Not many systems are that good.

[@michaelyblam]

Why is it ugly?!?!?!?! They all look beautiful to me.

[@David-ts8zn]

Same

[@MrTSK27]

Nothing ugly about Manchester's.

[@OrechTV]

I love the phrasing "Models in question" :D :D :D like interrogation room :D

[@animationpineapple327]

Boston actually has two tram systems, the Mattampan Trolley has much older looking trams on it. Also the newer type 9 trains on the green line are pretty nice.

[@centredoorplugsthornton4112]

It seems the surrounding communities served by these tram systems involuntarily influence whether they're "ugly" or have any other characteristics.

[@glennhavinoviski8128]

IN the case of downtown Baltimore, especially.

[@richwallace7637]

Seriously, have you seen the trams in Kolkata India?

[@anarghyasumanth8590]

True

[@qjtvaddict]

Dear GOD NO

[@ronnyskaar3737]

Toronto and the russian one a not ugly. They are very charming. And the Philadelphia one. Love it. What ruins trams is ugly advertising.

[@BTin416]

You may hate the KTM5's, but there's two things I like: spacious windows, and with the high floor its a flat floor inside with room for passengers. Might not be the prettiest machine, but they are comfortable. I would argue it isn't even that ugly, its just old and they would have looked fine fresh from the factory many decades ago with new parts and paint.

[@cata49]

is in Bucharest the v3a_93-faur ugly?

[@ramzanninety-five3639]

Any former Soviet Union city has trams that look like cargo containers, so they will easily take all 10 spots here. Plus, CLRVs of Toronto and Boston Type 7 are iconic and relatively attractive, CLRV certainly was before it was retired two years ago.

[@keithalexander3386]

Trams provide an excellent service, adding life to towns and cities all over the world. So they are not ugly.

[@thihal123]

I don’t find any of them ugly. They look mostly quite standard.

[@robwillie226]

The Toronto ones are beautiful

[@hanslembl9103]

I can't see why rhey should be ugly. Some of them have a more appealing design than others. But ugly - no way! I love trams. They are a perfect means of public transport in cities, and a perfect supplement to metro systems.

[@PierreDole]

I love old trams. For me they all are beautiful. :)

[@MrScoot27]

The tram you've listed as from Paris, while being part of the RATP, doesn't actually go into Paris itself, it only runs on the outskirts. Even the video itself is from St. Denis. I'd say that the Alstom trams on T3a and T3b are a lot more representative of the city.

[@vincentrochette3756]

How dare you put Toronto!! They are the best street cars ever. 😡

[@gbdreviews2691]

The Toronto streetcars that you put haven’t been in service for like 4 years now, the flexity’s are way better

[@billyehh]

Actually, 17 months. CLRV's were retired in December 2019

[@gbdreviews2691]

@@billyehh yeah but still, there were barely any on the road at that point and it’s also 2021 now, I’m just saying our team system is better now.

[@MartinIbert]

I totally fail to see anything wrong with any of them. They all appear to be perfectly funtional trams, providing transportation from point A to point B with minimal drama. Yes, a KTM-5 isn't the pinnacle of 21st-century tram design. It can't be as it was designed in the 60s of 20th century. But it still gets the job done, every day. And if it doesn't, for some reason, a hammer is usually all that is needed to fix it.

[@mattingham83]

The livery on the Lille trams looks better than the grey they had previously. Whilst the front looks a bit odd (and I can't quite work out why I find it so) the windows are lovely and big. The ones in Paris are quite nice! And the Manchester ones are fine; certainly useful if I go to the heritage railway in Busy or the Heaton Park Tramway. As a few people have said, many are a product of their time. And some look the way they do because there are safety regulations, etc to be adhered to :)

[@Thomas1980]

Very good Video👍👍👍 Best regards from Switzerland

[@liveenjoy6821]

I heard Baltimore is a very dangerous city. I cannot imagine roaming at night in a tram or anywhere outdoors in that city

[@nanba25]

And the most elegant in France is, in my opinion, the Tours one : sleek, shiny metal and piano black cars. Some of the tracks are surrounded by immaculate lawn, in the french fashion, so much favored by streetcar system planners (why? it's utterly costly). If you watch video about it, you think of a golf club cart riding among golf courses… Very classy, judging by the surroundings that are not so much

[@atul1024]

I don’t find anything ugly

[@acaciafruit347]

Manchester's are great, idk what your talking about, they imo look nice

[@paulhuggins5901]

I've travelled on the Trondheim system and thought it was lovely. The trams aren't ugly, just unique.

[@lloydypantz1]

I'm completely agree with the mention of the greater Manchester tram being ugly. I'm very proud of my city being in the north of England, but iv always sed they are ugly. The model 1 before these newer yellow trams where even worse . I believe they where built in Italy, which is a same we couldn't build them ourself, as we have a sea side town not far from here that has kept the original trams from when trams 1st started. The m/cr trams look too much like a train, which is why they had to build high platforms for the tram stops. Manchester 1st started the tram craze in the UK, but looking at other cities in the UK they are alot nicer to look at and alot lower. The cost for new tram lines is unbelievable. I bet they are easy run at the highest in the country. I wouldn't mind but newly all the routes and main roads in the greater Manchester area still have original trams lines buried under 6 inches of new tarmac complete with the original cobbles??? Go figure!! If they dug up the tarmac, they would find 100s of routes that would reach 100 times more places and easy access to more of the population and to the people who would benefit the most rather very limited developed areas.

[@leopold7562]

The first Manchester trams ran from Altrincham to Bury on old rail lines, they needed to be tall to save the cost of rebuilding the old train stations. Plus, Blackpool has replaced all its old rolling stock with new trams which were specially designed for them, as the old lines have too many tight corners to negotiate. The end result is a two car tram with five bendy sections and they look weird.

[@stephencowley8968]

It's not a beauty contest, teams do a job and do it well. They're not ugly they are functional, quite plain, and non polluting👍

[@crvcrfing]

And… you’re wrong. We don’t live in modernism ages anymore where things had to be useful rather that pretty. Right now if You want to make a customer to use your services you need to make your fleet look good and blend in with surroundings as most people choose things with their sight. That’s how things work in XXI century.

[@ekvedrek]

@@crvcrfing then don't complain about an industrial style tram in fucking Manchester of all places

[@MorganTheTimeLord]

Manchester doesn't have ugly trams!

[@gamereric2189]

I personally think the norristown high speed line trains are ugly. On this list, the one from Russia was the ugliest. I also think the type 8's are fine from Boston - I respect type 7 slander, but the 8's are nice and feel very roomy!

[@hesterclapp9717]

I found I dislike the older trams and liked the modern ones. I think this is all just a matter of opinion

[@MacIn173]

KTM-5 is really nice tram. You should take St Petersburg LVS steel coffins, to demonstrate what is "ugly".

[@michaelXXLF]

Most trams are just uninspired boxes on wheels. Do check out the ones in Tours, France though! They look as if Darth Vader would take on of them to work every morning.

[@claudermiller]

Kudos to all of them. I'm from Cincinnati which has only within the past several years completed 3.6 miles or 5.2 km of light rail after an absence of 60+ years of having none since they dismantled the old trolleys.

[@DByers-ci5kr]

I think trams are useful, egalitarian & a great investment. I note that my experiences with trams, streetcars & LR are they're well used in many countries (I never got on one in Toronto that wasn't crowded) but not so much in the US. I remember reading years ago the Swiss president took a tram to work. What ugliness I saw here was so much trash in Buenos Aires & the dilapidated buildings in Philadelphia. I always enjoyed my trips to Philly but there was always a building collapse in the news too. Time to spend some money on the US. Buildings, bridges, streets, rail, power grids, etc all need urgent attention here. We're promoting electric vehicles but let's face it, you must have reliable supply to power EVs.

[@David-ts8zn]

How dare you say manchester metro link is ugly

[@PsychicLord]

The Manchester trams were very clean too.......... surprised to see the in your top 10.

[@David-ts8zn]

@@PsychicLord I know right

[@sfmike711]

@Timosha21 : Just remember, as Saint Thomas Aquinas once said, "Quidquid recipitur ad (or "per") modum recipientis recipitur". I believe that sums it all up. (Did you catch my word play with "sums"?) Your profoundest apologies for calling these cars ugly and not-so-pretty is accepted.

[@thomasnovacek4686]

You have forgotten the really worst tram companies, these are in the former Soviet republics, like Kachastan. Endless rail breaks, dented tram cars with missing window panes, often only poorly repaired, often the drivers have to pull off the bracket so that the contact wire does not tear, ...

[@jordanbrooks7468]

I'm from Manchester, and I personally think our Metrolink trams are nice. They're sleek, compared to the old rusty blue trams. The interiors are spacious, except for when it gets crammed.

[@pals_312]

9:56 why does the pantograph look so tall 😂

[@sepruecom]

Well, the first generation of low floor trams range pretty high on the ugly list: Not just the TFS2 or those things from Lille, but also the Socimi trams of Rome, the RT6N of CKD Praha or the MAN/AEG-GT6M of Augsburg (whilst the standard gauge version looks decent, the metre gauge version has really ugly bumpers). They were experimenting a lot back then, since it was a new technology. Also, you don't seem to like angular tram models ;-)

[@MATT-dp3my]

Manchester’s Metrolink is to represent the bee which is Manchester’s symbol, it’s called the worker bee, after the 2017 bomb the bee became even more of a symbol and signature of the Manchester People because of how fast we all came together to work together to rebuild and care for each other.

[@tobeytransport2802]

3:45 eww I can’t believe this is the city where my granny was born.. she moved to England cause that’s where our family is from (including her dad) and I bet she’s glad she moved here, I’d like to visit Buenos Aires but my god is it a mess.

[@johnhammond5022]

BsAs is a wonderful city, though.

[@tobeytransport2802]

@@johnhammond5022 looks very dirty is what I mean. I’m sure it’s very nice but looks dirty

[@merccadoosis8847]

Hi Tim Another great video. I esp liked your disclaimer at the end because *there's no such thing as an ugly tram or trolley!*