These cards will NEVER be UNBANNED!

[@RenniganEagle]

Konami shouldve made victory dragon even more toxic. Wouldnt have cost them a thing to add "Other Players cannot concede the duel while this card is on the field"

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

Bro figured out the erata

[@ultrachrisgeometrydash]

Or if you surrender while Victory Dragon is on the field, you lose the match.

[@theshinydisciple3228]

Preach.

[@jeffmx5923]

Literally just make a ruling that u can't concede as soon as victory dragon is on the board.

[@mariocruz591]

An errata would be: "you can reveal this card from your hand: your opponent cannot surrender for the rest of the duel. Your opponent cannot respond to surrender on this card effect activation"

[@rjbourgeois5490]

"If any player voluntarily concedes the duel at any point during the summoning of victory dragon or while it remains face up on the field, that player concedes the match."

[@Casper-jx3vv]

You can just stall a game and win in time then

[@raddgaming1052]

Scoop before its summoned when they have 3 dragons on the board

[@Casper-jx3vv]

@rjbourgeois5490 then you're playing a guessing game which is also unhealthy I'm not scooping to dragon link or branded every time they have 3 dragons on field as it still may be winnable at that point

[@jangelaclough5457]

​@@raddgaming1052 Me: "it's over! I finally got three dragons out. Time for me to summon MY ULTIMATE DRAGON! COME FORTH-" opponent, assuming I'm summoning victory dragon: I conceed Me, who was preparing to summon Blue Eyes Ultimate: ...um...ok

[@undeadinside3571]

"A player can only concede on thier own turn" would also suck. Might as well just ban victory dragon for rulings' sake

[@wiewio8035]

Just realised that Voltester destroys "everything" that a link monster points to, so it can destroy spell/trap cards as well

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

Yeah, it's an annoying card but can zap the whole field lol

[@stock_movie1875]

If a Link monster points to a spell/trap zone which has a spell/trap that card is IMMEDIATELY destroyed regardless of who owns it. So it doesn't destroy spells/traps

[@MrThemelloman]

​@stock_movie1875 the link monster would need to be summoned to the main monster zone and then immediately point to a trap/spell card to destroy it. It doesn't just travel across the field. Needs to be in the direct zone next to the arrow.

[@stock_movie1875]

@@MrThemelloman yes. That's what I said. Granted it may not have been clear, but let me monsters are bs anyway

[@user-fx8cz9dh7t]

​@@TagTeamDuelDeck depending on How much link monsters you rely on, this card literally costs ALL of your opponentes deck...does it zap away your own cards If your enemie's link points to your field?

[@PGW85Productions]

Graceful Charity can NEVER come back. Before the prevalence of graveyard effects, it was a riskier, often times less good version, of Pot Of Greed. But with every deck now running so many graveyard effects, it would be even more broken than Pot Of Greed if it came back.

[@TheGreatSalsaMan]

Honestly pot of greed would be allowed back before graceful charity 🤣

[@scrapkingkeita3825]

Even back in the day, dumping was due to hte lack of special summon restrictions letting you revive big monsters easier. To say nothing of pre-errata OCG Witch and Sangan

[@cjramos1158]

In today's YGO, that would be an easy +5 or more.

[@Yomi2012]

Eratta graceful charity. Saying cards sent to the graveyard by this cards effect can not activate

[@PGW85Productions]

@@Yomi2012 even then, there’s too many options for retrieving them once they’re in there now, that just makes it a much, much better Upstart Goblin, without the drawback of giving your opponent more resources (life points). The eratta you proposed is a good idea, the issue is that the card is still too strong, even with it.

[@plasmawarper5837]

Painful choice is never coming back

[@robertomomento]

Ultimate dark world card

[@undeadinside3571]

They dont get discarded. They dont trigger. But lightsworn, infernoid, shaddoll, burning abyss, phantom knight, orcust, TEARLAMENT, dragon rulers, ogdaodic, and countless others all benefit way too much from it

[@david_8916]

​@@robertomomentoliterally unplayable in Dark World lol

[@shindukess]

​@@undeadinside3571 it clearly says discard and it's not a cost. DW was the reason it got banned.

[@cerberos1]

@@shindukessIt says discard because it’s an old card and the text wasn’t updated Back in the days mill cards used to say "discard from your opponent decks" like needle worm when obviously discarding doesn’t work like that

[@whatmesage]

If you scoop to Victory Dragon, you should have to eat the match loss and a penalty for being a putz. Can't blame them for not wanting to deal with that again though.

[@aleksandarkovacevic7138]

Actually victory dragon was dominant card in no bans tourmament

[@Merik2013]

​@@aleksandarkovacevic7138traditional format?

[@donavanh7776]

What am I missing with Victory Dragon? Isn't it obvious that if you have zero life points you lose?

[@eddisonclarke3092]

​@@donavanh7776if you deal a finishing blow with victory dragon, you win the best of 3, not just the game

[@eddisonclarke3092]

​@@aleksandarkovacevic7138only because it was in the OCG, where condeding a game is only possible after turn 10 or something. Basically scooping isn't viable in the OCG

[@heroman3259]

Hot take: Master duel would be better if pot of greed would be at 3 instead of maxx c

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

Not a bad take lol

[@BOGOworms4sale]

Nah I’d rather play around Maxx C than have SIGNIFICANTLY more consistent FTK strategies

[@undeadinside3571]

​@@BOGOworms4salesame! Why would i wanna deal with my opponent opening 9 cards instead of 5?! 5 cards already gets like 5 negates / interrupts sometimes

[@soloman1234soloman]

maxx C stops a lot of special summon that creates toxic omni negate

[@heroman3259]

@@soloman1234soloman i feel like its way more toxic to... 1. Get your turn instantly stopped by it so your opponent can just otk next turn. It would be more acceptable if you couldnt attack the turn after you activate maxx c. 2. Watch your opponent build up a (breakable) board, maybe even get excited for the upcoming grindgame u might win, just for a maxx c being thrown at you on top of a full endboare, making playing the game even more impossible. A restriction against that is also need. So now tell me again how maxx c makes the game less toxic!

[@danielmay9349]

The "win a match" ones are also banned in masterduel , which makes no sense since masterduel only does single duels

[@sandstorm7790]

Forgot to mention graceful charity but I assume you just lumped that together with pot of greed. If we're being honest, a draw 3 discard 2 is infinitely better than pot of greed's draw 2. Not only does it let you dig deeper into your deck, the discard is often beneficial for a majority of decks nowadays. Being able to draw and set up your graveyard effects in 1 card is just crazy.

[@brianaguilar8283]

Funny because that’s not how it was intended. It was meant to fix bad hands because it’s a +0 card

[@slinemrayen4688]

pot of greed can will be unbanned if he do an update to its effects for exemple : -draw 2 card,you can use "pot of greed" once per duel.and the banned pot of greed will be pot of greed (anime)

[@marioruiz1530]

Would be kinda cool to get a version of painful choice that banishes the cards face down rather than sending them to the grave.

[@nnnp634]

I love the idea so much, but it's basically a strictly better Prosperity which was already amazing in some formats.

[@marioruiz1530]

@@nnnp634 not really, cuss with prosperity you’re not banishing a bunch of potential combo pieces from your deck face down.

[@nnnp634]

@@marioruiz1530 Oh, fuck, I didn't think about that. Now, that's an interesting thought. I still think it could be too good since you can just pick 5 non-engine cards, like 5 floodgates, and decks seems to have room for that

[@prodmoira]

While it's a fun thought there's still decks that could take advantage of those banished cards. Floo would be way more broken then it already is for example. Banished face down might be okay though since very few cards can interact with those

[@Asurataer]

Kaiser Colosseum, Fiber Jar, Cyber-Stein, and Cold Wave are a few cards I don't see ever getting unbanned for the right reasons

[@trinketmage8145]

I never thought Raigeki or Feather Duster would ever be unbanned,and now they're not even played in the maindeck.

[@lolplays8279]

pot of greed isnt that strong triple tactic thrust is much better you can take opponent monster or draw 2 also ash counter it almost 70% of the time opponent have ash in hand so idk why is it still banned

[@rexusiglesias_08]

​@@lolplays8279 I think you mean Triple Tactic Talent. Also, Pot of Greed is a generic plus one that fits in most, if not all, decks.

[@hendysetiawan5508]

​@@lolplays8279you need to be second to play triple. Pot of greed will make any one turn kill deck on first turn more destructive.

[@jacobfenske6819]

Unban everything. Announce that major tournaments will occur every 3 months and afterward analyze decks, and a new banlist will be made based on the results.

[@thanoseid2883]

That won’t work. The banlist will pretty much be the same.

[@prodmoira]

A big problem with that is the format would be filled with nothing but ftks. With no banlist there's probably a hundred different ftks minimum. You can't learn anything like that.

[@izzy_theog9658]

Pot of Greed will always stay banned for this specific reason. We don't really know what it actually does XD

[@BWPNC]

Its yu gi oh old heads gassing it up like maxx c dont exist

[@undeadinside3571]

​​@@BWPNCit's literally a free, always live, never dead in hand plus 1 for free no matter how you look at it. Maxx C's downside is if you go 1st, your hand is essentially smaller. Pot of greed is the opposite going 1st. It has no downside no matter what going 1st or 2nd! Edit: Remember why konami stopped letting players draw if they went 1st? Adding pot of greed would remove that safeguard anytime a going 1st player opens with it.

[@MoiveGuy24]

Pot of greed was never banned lol it’s a basic staple card that everyone uses

[@alexjohnson452]

I think pot could be a fun 1 off just for the hype

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

That'd be pretty funny. And with our luck we'd draw into 2 copies of prosperity or smth lol

[@undeadinside3571]

And the opponent would draw a whole engine with thiers. The opponent starting with 5 cards in snake-eye is bad enough, but 6 in thier opening?... no thanks!

[@brianaguilar8283]

@@undeadinside3571I think what op meant is that maybe, just for fun, Konami would unban Pot of Greed for one format just to let players use it for a hot second before it got banned again

[@evanwildermann7034]

​​@@undeadinside3571it definitely need an errata to nerf it's going first potential that's the main problem with the card going first it's way to strong going second its more balance mayby just make a new pot with restrictions like evenly or something similar

[@kyuven]

Pole Position. Causing an infinite loop just by existing is more trouble than it's worth.

[@Dragonfire-gq4qd]

pole position isn't banned though

[@ImMacke3000]

Victory dragon could be erratad to have this line added: "If your opponent surrenders the duel while this card is on the field, you win the match."

[@seijicaito8860]

Oh I just remembered card of safe return since this one was a hell of a crazy key card to get the 5 pieces of exodia in one turn

[@solidsnakeandgrayfox]

Self destruct button, given that caused a 53 minute shenanigans lol

[@logansager1362]

Thank you. I remember the good ol days again

[@kombatserbia6034]

It's weird how they made monsters that blocks all zones, but won't unban cards that can EASILY be negated by other card effects

[@Infinite160]

Sixth Sense. That card was so powerful it was limited on release before shortly getting banned.

[@Yatezylad]

Even calling 3 or 4 is crazy if you mill 5 or 6 cards

[@nnnp634]

I don't think it would be that powerful at all. Milling 5 or 6 is decent, but not working dedicating a trap card for it. However it should stay banned because first effect is powerful enough to make a game end in a coin toss which is something that shouldn't happen

[@Prince_Eva_Huepow]

Usually call 5-6 cards since you'd mill 1-4 cards if you lost the toss

[@joshua739]

Thing is you can unban pot of greed and nothing changes because meta decks revolve around busted archetypes so they'll always prefer searching from deck

[@megaspacewaffles]

No. Because you can still get deeper in your deck for non engine. Handtraps and extenders. So no. It would still be played today

[@joshua739]

@@megaspacewaffles even if it sees play it can't break the game any worse than links have

[@megaspacewaffles]

@@joshua739 no. It would break the game lol

[@dyaztama1364]

It turns a 40 cards deck to 37-39 without literal drawback except maybe drawing bricks do yeah no

[@megaspacewaffles]

@@joshua739 links do not let you draw 2 for absolutely no cost or downside

[@Luna-xr3dk]

Talk about graceful charity. That gives recourses in the graveyard and simultaneously drawing cards for a opening hand

[@niLnevyH]

Self destruct button

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

I think the issue with this card became that the ruling changed and dealt damage to the player who activated it first

[@sean1oo1]

@@TagTeamDuelDeckwouldn’t that defeat the purpose of the card? It’s supposed to force a tie so damage priority on it makes about as worthless as errata’d ring of destruction

[@seijicaito8860]

@@TagTeamDuelDeck but wouldn't be pointless to ban a card that can automatically end a duel in a Draw?

[@trisertricordoh2127]

@@seijicaito8860 Win game one draw till time is called for the round.

[@Aescalona]

​@@seijicaito8860 apart from the toxic strat the comment above me said, Konami has been trying to remove ties completely from the game, an example of this being errata'ing ring of destruction l

[@Guero388]

Victory Dragon could be fix if they implemented the surrender rule like in the video games where you can only surrender during your turn

[@ryudarkness4564]

From what i know in japan tournaments you can only surrender after the 10. turn

[@MightySuki]

I would make HUGE limited and ban list. Then i would extend min and max deck size to like 50-100cards. If you have more 80-100 caeds in deck you do not have baned cards, but if you have 50-80 you have banlist.

[@maximus13161]

grass looks greener on the other side of this format

[@RaceBandit]

I don't know, it seems pretty easy to load your deck with lots of banned cards if you take the 80+ road, especially if you have a big limited/ban list.

[@MightySuki]

@@RaceBandit Try it with some friends, any card that looks somewhat powerfull limit it to 1 and use deck of 80 cards. Try using any archtype thatbis curently powerfull litim its serchers, 1 card combos all to 1 and fill the deck woth other powerfull cards and ypu get the old school yugioh woth new cards :)

[@deadzone6661]

Last Turn is never getting unbanned as long as Jowgen exists lol

[@MrPizzaslice]

In the TCG both Pot of Greed and Maxx "C" are banned which makes sense but what makes 0 fucking sense is how in the OCG and Master Duel Maxx "C" is unlimited. Considering how much players special summon in Yugioh nowadays Maxx "C" might as well just say "draw 10".

[@soloman1234soloman]

maxx C stops 1st player to do a lot of special summon that creates toxic omni negate, giving more room to 2nd player to counter

[@MoiveGuy24]

There’s no way pot of greed is banned lol it’s a staple card that everyone uses, it’s in every deck

[@soloman1234soloman]

@@MoiveGuy24 too staple/generic is the reason why it is banned

[@MoiveGuy24]

@@soloman1234soloman but it’s stupid though it’s like the one card everybody has in their deck, why don’t they just band mirror force because that’s too generic or staple lol or just ban all the originals for that matter like mystical space typhoon,spellbinding circle,magic cylinder etc because those are two generic/staple lol.

[@soloman1234soloman]

@@MoiveGuy24 The one that you mentioned (MST, magic cylinder. mirror force) were limited for the reason of too generic and good at that time period. Not the case for now. They are not powerful anymore nowadays Even if pot of Greed is unbanned, there will be errata to make it way less generic and less powerful like the following cards(EX: Crush Card virus, Dark Magician of Chaos, Chaos Emperor of Dragon, Summon Sorcerers, Dark Strike Fighter) Also nowadays, there are so many more card recycle resources from GY. Without errata, pot of Greed definitely creates more toxic OTK deck like burn deck or exodia deck. Some Errata example can be - only can use card with same name once per turm, (most of the other pots are strightly once per turn like pot of prosperity and pot of desire) - only can activate when you have less LP - only can activiate this card when total card on the field is X amount less than opponent

[@lowtiermod]

Painful choice in something like dark world would just be unfair, no longer do you get to search one card but also discard the rest, gaining even more advantage

[@VampireQueen696]

Graceful charity. God that card breaks so many decks

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

Can you imagine tearlaments with graceful charity?

[@VampireQueen696]

@@TagTeamDuelDeck I cringe at that thought. I play casual a lot and we allow banned cards at one copy I ran graceful in Shaddoll deck and in my Darkworld fabled combo deck....I uh...I think I broke the decks XD

[@Agertar]

For those talking about not being allowed to surrender against victory dragon, the bigger problem would be people 'stalling' the match by not doing lethal damage to simply wait to draw victory dragon, which is a much worse situation. And while they could simply surrender when they realize they're stalling, it's certainly a toxic situation.

[@reisen9584]

For me painful choice and gracefull charity. Those card can be use both going first and 2nd and feels like it's game winning effect. Even confiscation, sentry, delinquent duo can only be good going 1st.

[@Combaticon]

Last time I checked the Yu-Gi-Oh rulebook (the one comes with all those decks), nowhere did it mention that surrendering was a win condition. So technically you could say all surrenders are and were illegal, and thus match-winners would have a purpose, even if those on the receiving end don't like it. And yes, Mai should've have had no choice but to watch her Harpie Ladies get chopped to pieces by Black Luster Soldier.

[@metalmario1231]

....forfeiting a game is not a rule of any game....but you can't stop me from giving up

[@yuumijungle548]

i think painful choice is the best card and its not even close, searching 5 cards from your deck is unmatched, i doubt there will ever be a better card

[@ctcarpen]

The Forceful Sentry > Confiscation, IMO. It's a free, 1 for 1, Phoenix Wing Wind Blast. Delinquent Duo, as well.

[@anyways827]

honorable mentions: Photon jar( that card basically resets the whole duel to 0, dragged out games way too long if thats the right jar im thinking of) graceful charity( draw 3, then discard 2 is imo even more powerful than pot of greed), cyber stein( pay 5k life points to cheat out nearly every fusion monster in the game is quite literally broken) there are shockingly tons of cards that come to my mind that will never be unbanned but these are the 3 best ones imo

[@Jsuelieta]

Painful Choice used to be my keystone card for Exodia back in the day. Throw the normal pieces and something like Mystic Tomato out there, opponent will often pick Mystic Tomato, crash that into something to summon Sangan or Witch of the Black Forest for the head, drop a couple Backup Soldiers to win on the next draw step.

[@Whoholies]

I lamo after reading victory dragon card effect

[@mhc706]

I’m only more confused after reading it. Basically “this monster behaves like every other monster in the game”?

[@Whoholies]

@@mhc706 yeah

[@derekwst3-YGO]

@@mhc706 kind of, its effect wins the match, not a duel. so using wins the best of 3

[@rjbourgeois5490]

​​​​@@mhc706sort of. While exodia wins you a duel, victory dragon wins you the entire match. Matches usually consist of a best of three duels in tournaments, so you wouldn't have to play duel 2/3 if you win with victory dragon. ...Although I'm curious if someone insists on playing the last duel after losing both 1 and 2, and then wins with victory dragon, that should give them the match. While it's usually cut off after the second win, I don't see why judges could refuse the request for the third duel to play out as long as the opportunity to win the entire match remains possible and there is still time to play it out. Lol

[@williamborjamancia]

​@@rjbourgeois5490thanks for explain it, i got it clear now

[@derek8134]

Meanwhile Jowgen casually existing preventing your opponent from special summoning entirely and isn't banned. What makes it worse is it can be special summoned and is usually apart of an end board so any hand traps you had you already probably used them.

[@CreamerOfTheDairySquad]

I say unban everything for a single major tournament and call it the tournament of chaos

[@JamieFlett-b6n]

They did it in the ocg and tear was the best deck and it didn’t even run pot of greed lol

[@undeadinside3571]

​@@JamieFlett-b6nit didnt need it. It took droll existing into account and decided it didnt need pot of greed to be the best anyway

[@ceetee3370]

Its actually crazy thay Graceful Charity was even printed. Let me draw three and then setup my graveyard real quick before making every play imaginable. Yes I know it never actually did that, but if it came back...

[@nnnp634]

In the infancy of the game in the OCG it was better than that. Discarding Witch or Sangan, triggered their effects, so you could basically go plain +2 and thin ypur deck a lot

[@Nyghtking]

The game has sped up so much i can honestly see Pot Of Greed getting unbanned eventually if the theme keeps up, because there are already cards for specific archetypes that do better then it.

[@nnnp634]

I think it could come back already

[@Nyghtking]

@@nnnp634 Maybe, pot of greed has 3 things going for it, it has no requirements, it's generic and can be put in any deck, and it's a free +1. I said it could probably be taken off the ban list because there are already decks that go +7 off the use of a single card.

[@BOGOworms4sale]

@@Nyghtkingthe only problem with pot of greed as it stands is making FTKs that much more consistent which is about the worst thing you can do

[@nnnp634]

@@Nyghtking It's crazy, up to few years ago I was absolutely certain thaf every single deck except maybe Infernity and maybe Adamancipator would play it, because why wouldn't you try for a free plus 1. Also, Swordsoul and Tri-Brigade were dominant in large part because they could've used Desires and other decks couldn't. Nowadays however, I'm not convinced that it would even be worth it over a handtrap for going second (although it could draw to board breakers). The most powerful deck ever would probably not even play it, because it is useless with mills. It's still a plus 1 though so it might be still ban worthy. I would like to see Konami try. I understand why they wouldn't because even if it wouldn't do anything in isolation when you have to much draw power, something awful can emerge like an FTK deck, r a super consistent stun.

[@Nyghtking]

@@nnnp634 Yup, it's a +1 with no set up but thats all it is, it does nothing else, so I imagine that there will be a time when it will come off the ban list simply because a +1 that does nothing else won't be considered that good.

[@ovx23]

Painful choice is the number one card ever

[@firestargaming9521]

I always said that painful choice was the single most broken card in all of Yu-Gi-Oh. You get to foolish FOUR CARDS as a DRAWBACK for a generic search. This card shouldn't exist

[@Drekal684]

I experimented with Painful Choice in LotD and was pleasantly surprised when Wulf summoned himself. But yeah, that card cannot come back. It would need a crazy errata to be useable again, it's probably the most outright broken card in the ban list or at least in the top five. Flies under the radar a bunch, but its impact on the game would be incredibly toxic.

[@MatTen532]

I've only played the tag force series but my favorite banned card has to be fibre jar. Set it as a destiny draw and it just resets everything.

[@Nello_angelo]

Number 16 should've been a win condition kind of deck like when you summon 3 of them you automatically win the game like destiny board or exodia , they need to do some tweaking here and there but I think they can make it work

[@johnnyphesto1247]

The only reason Number 16 is banned, is because it embarrassed by landing on its face after crashing through a wall.

[@HrisNikov]

Graceful-charity for the same reason as pot and painful chooses you draw 3 friking cards and then send 2 to the grave from your hand and if you play cards that like to be in the grave it’s even a bigger advantage

[@rodrigossgardelis7384]

It always buffed me how Konami never considered making the rule that a player can only surrender during their own turn. There problem solved.

[@jacobmurphy1062]

What's crazy is all the cards besides victory dragon that are banned all have similar effects in game now that do the same thing as some of the banned cards with the exception of the one that shut out card types.

[@DynamicReset]

Konami likes errata’s sometimes, Victory Dragon needs it the most, and make it harder to accomplish this alternative win condition. It would be an okay-card, then maybe. [With errata I mean instead of match, make an alternative win-the-duel condition.] Maybe: This card cannot be Special Summoned. To Tribute Summon this card, you must Tribute 3 level 8 Dragon-Type monsters, each tribute must have been on the field for minimum 1 full turn, and must be Normal Summoned; a Special Summoned monster cannot be used as a Tribute. If this card attacks your opponent directly, you win the duel.

[@ScionStorm1]

I can see Shock Master getting an errata before the others mentioned.

[@Trustee-of-The-Most-High]

There should be an official Yu-Gi-Oh! limit break championship where all cards are permitted

[@gabrielbitencourt9452]

Number S0 Utopic ZEXAL Number 89 Diablosis the Mind Hacked Number 86 Rhongonomyiad Number 16 Shock Master Red Reboot Imperial Order Sixth Sense Graceful Charity Pot of Greed and so many more

[@stock_movie1875]

Confiscation can ABSOLUTELY be hand trapped. Happened to me yesterday in master duel

[@derekwst3-YGO]

Bring all the match winners to masterduel

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

Good plan xD

[@Yatezylad]

There's the unholy trio of handrip cards: Delinquent Duo, Confiscation and forceful sentry. Gofu can never come back. Another instresting cideo would be cards which should stay limited.

[@TheSoulbanker]

A card type floodgate on the rank 4 engine. They could have avoided most issues if they had made it a rank 6.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

It would've been banned when Virtual World was meta like True King of all Calamities was. Maybe sooner even since Rank 6 was easier to make than Rank 9. You can 'balance' an otherwise broken card by making it hard to bring out initially, but when it becomes easy to bring out, it becomes super broken.

[@xeriath2326]

Pot of Greed is only banned because no one knows what it does.

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

Exaaaaactly

[@lolplays8279]

they should unban it card isnt broken anymore you have fucking purrely draw 6 effect, you have ash to counter pot of greed, droll to counter draws beside main draw idk isnt strong as it used to be i can prove that lets play fire king snake eyes vs anything you want with both players having pot of greed it will be useless

[@hotsauce2277]

Painful choice can’t come back not only because of its insane effect, but because it was actually banned before it was even released so it can’t come back if it was never there to begin with 😂

[@slinemrayen4688]

pot of greed can will be unbanned if he do an update to its effects for exemple : -draw 2 card,you can use "pot of greed" once per duel. this the solution to will be unbanned

[@pokebreederrichard1200]

They should have a rule that if you surrender to any victory condition it still counts, like if victory dragon is on the field and they surrender before the attack it still counts

[@victorminkov5183]

Grateful charity is probably never coming off just because it’s an even better pot of greed if you have stuff that can work in the graveyard.

[@zackking4742]

Pot of greed needs unbanned. There are other cards that can draw more than one card as it is and it can be negated. It needs to be at least limited to 1. If we can have toxic cards like called by the grave at 2 and Skill Drain, triple tactics talent, we can have freaking pot of greed. Nobody can change my mind.

[@KatsuRyu]

"What does pot of greed do?" I know what it does, so if you respond with "draw 2 cards" you didn't get my joke...

[@evanwildermann7034]

Yes it's a stake joke at this point but yeah we get it

[@logansager1362]

Does anyone else remember the self-destruct button

[@afroanime4589]

Honestly kust limit pot of greed to one and have the text say "you can only use this once per duel" like thats not op when every person opens with ash blossom or has an omni negate on the field

[@xLohengrinx1]

Self destruct button, definition of a toxic card

[@red-eyejustice6682]

With the current meta I wouldn't mind comfiscation coming back to one.

[@Ultimatelocke]

What are you talking about? Pretty sure Victory dragon was banned on release. It was never intended to be used in actual tournament play. Like every single "Win a match card" is generally instantly banned before being available for play.

[@Ulquiorra_Cifer]

Zexal is also one of those cards, from what i remember it shuts the opponents from playing for 2 or 3 turns

[@jasemtensai5856]

That one red eyes black dragon monster🗿

[@shadowdraqon2479]

Shock master might be fine cuz a lot decks get archtype(almost everything but especially cyberse decks and heros/madolchez) or attribute locked(DARK decks like orcust and raidrapters) or dont have ways to put three lvl 4 on the field in 1 turn, the lvl 1/2/3/5/6/7/8 decks like drytrons/sprights/burning abyss and VW/cyber dragonz/hieratics/mermails(also they handloop so they dont give a fawk about making shockmaster) they already won the game/blue eyes and galaxy eyes.

[@shadowdraqon2479]

The one deck that could make it the easiest would be some type of pendulum soup deck that plays lots of lvl 4’s, they dont get archtype or attribute locked.

[@shadowdraqon2479]

Danger darkworld could summon shockmaster especially with the help of the lvl 4 dangers they play, but they already handloop the opp with silva so they dont give a fawk about shockmaster.

[@shadowdraqon2479]

Six Samurai could summon shockmaster extremely easily with triple Kizan(lvl 4 warrior which means they can also summon rongo) but they can perform multiple different kinds of FTK’s and/or handloops so they dont give a fawk if shockmaster/rongo is banned or not. They only thing they want is gateway/ROTA to be unlimited and for the timer on master duel to be 10 minutes+ cuz they time out

[@bryan3493]

I agree with Pot of greed being banned as it is too hard to figure out what it even does. It makes the game too confusing so yeah...

[@GoldenB0ltBLTZ]

I'd say bring back POG, and limit it to 1 permanently. And give it an updated erata that says: Draw 2 cards. After the effect resolves banish this card. You can only use 'Pot of Greed' once per duel. I see this as an absolute win.

[@Merik2013]

Idk. What makes Called By broken isn't the nagate. It's the lingering effect that lasts thrpugh not just the turn its activated, but the following turn as well. I dont think theres a direct comparison with Confiscation here.

[@xAznSkyxx]

If you surrender while victory dragon was in your opponent's deck at the start of the duel, you concede the match would be a funny errata

[@RaceBandit]

Uh, Last Turn? That card was so complicated Alex and Joseph had to look up rulings for it during History of YGO.

[@marklowery8193]

They should have released most 04 chaos/chaos related monsters off the ban list without errata. Sangan and witch are the very best searchers in the game

[@OtakuMan05]

Underworld Queen of the Dark World, Aleister the Invoker, Fallen of Albaz

[@bears9740]

For victory Dragon they could add the effect that the opponent is not allowed to give up

[@unholyshaman9211]

Right that would be called an eratta. Your opponent cannot forfeit in response to this cards effect. Problem solved

[@l0032l]

Why? If they surrender, you already win

[@neobullseye1]

I'd say Fiber Jar. Not because it's broken or even remotely good (being a Flip Effect monster, it can just be nuked without ever doing anything), but because it's annoying and doesn't actually help any remotely normal deck. All it does is effectively reset the current duel, barring any possible Banished cards and LP changes. It doesn't actually help you *win*; it only lets you stall for time in one of the most annoying ways possible. It's one of those cards that should stay banned just to save everyone a headache.

[@rodneyevans3848]

I was just shocked that they unbanned the draton rullers, I have no idea of what they where thinking.

[@soundwavedoesthings]

Hot take: Confiscation could come back as a counter to Snake Eyes Fiendsmith turbo

[@TagTeamDuelDeck]

Interesting idea. I like it but I think they'll just use it too and rip ash blossom out of your hand 😭

[@jovansoh]

Pot of greed should at least move to limited section. With ash its fine really

[@undeadinside3571]

Not really. Its a free plus 1, and even 1 extra card is insane in modern yugioh. Konami stopped letting you draw on the 1st turn of a duel for a reason. Generic plus 1 is too good for a game that can already get consistent FTKs or 6 negates with 1 less card. And "just draw the out" should never be used for balancing arguements

[@soloman1234soloman]

not really, it is way too generic, + there are too many pot already (avarice, dichotomy and desire)

[@brawl2063]

I love Pot of Greed is banned, when original this card didn’t do much

[@asktherisk1636]

Honestly, draw 2 with no graveyard effect seems unironically weak to me now.

[@_Galaxymuffin_]

lol, Victory dragon was a cakewalk for judges compared to Last Turn, there is a gigantic wiki page thats like seven paragraphs long with all the possible rulings for it, it's cancer.

[@emmittsmith482]

They need to unban pot of greed, it’s dumb that they banned it in the first place

[@pantydesigner]

There's already tons of cards like pot of greed, we don't need more cards that's make you getting more cards. They're at least conditional to a certain degree, unlike pot of greed that's universal and easy to use. You should see the bigger picture.

[@BOGOworms4sale]

Imo FTKs are the single reason Pot of Greed will never come back. It makes strategies far too consistent and it’ll end up putting so many cards on the chopping block.

[@BYERE]

Shock Master doesn't seem so bad... Sure, you can stop your opponent from activating effects, but they can still summon monsters without problem, as long as the effects aren't what's summoning the new monster. For example, if special summoning something from your hand (or in a few cases, your graveyard), that's not "activating an effect" to summon the monster, so it can still be played. They could stop me activating the effects of monsters, and I could still tribute their monsters for a Lava Golem or Kaiju, or tribute one of my EARTH-Machines for an Infinitrack monster... I could still get bodies on the field and Synchro/Xyz/Link summon... etc. Shock Master's stats aren't all that great, and could easily be overpowered, even without activating any effects.

[@xoltan7228]

Fun fact, if you unbanned every card, there would literally be no more problems

[@pantydesigner]

Said people that never played a Trading Card Games

[@AndrewFerro-n6v]

Unlock the Shock.

[@That_Borkin_Ninetales]

Actually, I'm gonna call out for confiscation to return, and heres why, I do agree with your other points, however, I think Confiscation will force people to consider their options and possibly pass up on a play which with how many hand traps and starters exist you have to decide if you cna play out your play or force you to wait. I think the mind games would continue even if you saw their hand

[@itsmethethingg]

I'm a judge and if you were to concede because the victory dragon is about to reduce your remaining life points to 0, im ruling in the favor of the person who attacked with victory dragon

[@flamvellyt1910]

That would get appealed by anyone with a brain.

[@os1r1s_210]

Gracefully charity and delinquent duo will never come back.

[@ReederMG]

Painful Choice Graceful Charity Forceful Sentry Royal Oppression

[@SerothTalon]

I lot of the cards that I thought would never get unbanned were brought back to 3. Either via devastating errata, or insane power creep. Taking a peek at the current list The biggest ones I see are: - Butterfly Dagger Elma - Giant Trunade - Vanity's Emptiness As for ones that absolutely should not be unbanned, but I totally think they should just to fuck with everybody: - Fiber Jar - Level Eater Opinion that is going to tilt everyone reading this: - I don't think Pot of Greed should be banned. Almost every other Pot card is infinitely more powerful. I would instead impose a maximum of 3 total Pot cards.

[@Citizen_Nappa23]

Delinquent Duo because it essentially ripped 2 cards out of the hand.

[@undeadinside3571]

You could even loop it in pendulum magicians pretty easily if it came back

[@Raytheharbinger0]

It's funny because in the case of pot of greed, every single possible reason people can say as to why it should stay banned is easily debunked in today's game. "Draw 2 cards from where" Well your deck obviously, no card that I've ever seen that lets you draw has specified from where. Because it's common sense that it's from your deck like with literally every card that lets you draw. "It's draw two cards with no restrictions" Sure, but in today's game where Maxx C (in some formats) is legal and other cards exist that have much more broken drawing effects exist and aren't banned. Also to add to it, almost every single actually good deck in today's Yugioh has ways to negate Pot of Greed. Also everyone would be able to run it, the pure luck of getting your single copy of Pot of Greed in your starting hand is not a grounds for a ban. If it was then literally every card is subject to it.