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Harstem

Harstem

Күн бұрын

After a lot of high elo replays in Grandmasters and other high leagues it is time to get back to the lower leagues again. And here we have a beautiful Bronze replay trying to showcase why Protoss is OP. But these players completely exeeded my expectations! Smash like to give them the power to rank up!
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@MrTubeStuck
@MrTubeStuck 3 жыл бұрын
Dude played more like a Bio Terran than a Zerg. He could switch race and be decent, maybe even better with his current level of control, plus his salty nature perfectly fits the Terran race
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 3 жыл бұрын
Plus if he doesn't want to build more than 36 workers mules help fix that!
@tolo9664
@tolo9664 3 жыл бұрын
I have terran as my 2nd race and its good
@carstrom9032
@carstrom9032 3 жыл бұрын
@@tolo9664 epic moment
@MrTubeStuck
@MrTubeStuck 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zim-ks6pb THIS right here is what I keep saying about Terran salt. Dude I hate to say it but, you just need to grow up and "git gud". Whining about imbalance and what not will get you anywhere.
@MrTubeStuck
@MrTubeStuck 3 жыл бұрын
@@tolo9664 That explains the playstyle! Thanks for allowing the world to roast you. You're a good sport :)
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 3 жыл бұрын
05:00 "Even the *Red Cross* does more damage in their operations... and they're a _charity_ that tends to _heal_ people." 😭😭😭
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem must've served as a Hellbat in the past, seeing how good he is at roasting
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 3 жыл бұрын
@@runtergerutscht4401 Blue Flame. Zero chill. 💀
@stlCkofdOom
@stlCkofdOom 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute gold! This is why harstem is moving fast to becoming my favourite sc2 caster
@wolfgangkern6333
@wolfgangkern6333 3 жыл бұрын
So epic. Already made my day :-D
@AlexanderVRadev
@AlexanderVRadev 3 жыл бұрын
@@henryviiifake8244 Oh boy. Blue flame Hellbat......
@kirito3082
@kirito3082 3 жыл бұрын
Tolo is the type of vandal that throws poop to vandalize a farm. Or the general that tries to poison the enemy's water with vitamins.
@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786
@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 3 жыл бұрын
Overdosing on vitamin c is no joke lol
@sharpasacueball
@sharpasacueball 3 жыл бұрын
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Vitamin c is water soluble, so you'll normally just pee it all out. Something like vitamin d that is fat soluble is more likely to cause an overdose
@minimalgrammar1276
@minimalgrammar1276 3 жыл бұрын
Or the general that tries to poison the enemy's water. Seriously dude what the fuck. You don't do that.
@StormflameMW
@StormflameMW 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't happen to watch the famous (20M views) video from ProZD "a villain who unintentionally always does helpful things"? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYG4mJ2vYrWhY5Y
@AlexanderVRadev
@AlexanderVRadev 3 жыл бұрын
Uhm you make it sound like trowing poop on a farm is not a big deal. It definitely is a huge deal depending on what part of the farm you trow at. ;)
@hunteralthompson9867
@hunteralthompson9867 3 жыл бұрын
When Zerg goes 12 pool just to play a friendly game of tag with the probes but your lings get beaten up
@mikeballew3207
@mikeballew3207 3 жыл бұрын
Lings got bullied :(
@kornelskitek7681
@kornelskitek7681 3 жыл бұрын
Zerglings are very often misunderstood. They would never hurt anyone, as they are actually pretty tame. But they often misjudge the strength of their play buddies and so fatal accidents happen…
@sargonyami4292
@sargonyami4292 2 жыл бұрын
@@kornelskitek7681 just look at the lings from carbot. How can anyone harm them.
@ZergIingLover
@ZergIingLover 2 жыл бұрын
@@kornelskitek7681 Definitely. I'm so glad that there are other Zergling psychiatrists.
@shadowling77777
@shadowling77777 2 жыл бұрын
@@sargonyami4292 so cute
@harta7397
@harta7397 3 жыл бұрын
I love the loss of a T in the units lost tab. 17:59 Good job. lol
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 жыл бұрын
I missed the reference on the joke.
@harta7397
@harta7397 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielskrivan6921 look at their names.
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 жыл бұрын
@@harta7397 Got it!
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 жыл бұрын
I was afraid noone would get it ^^
@freshjori
@freshjori 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamster_designs To be fair I had to pause and look through the comments to get it.
@Broformist
@Broformist 3 жыл бұрын
2.7K isn't Bronze, it's almost Plat 3. Bronze is a dude sitting on one base for 10-15 minutes defensively and going up to most expensive tech.
@nefas909
@nefas909 3 жыл бұрын
Leagues bug is at it again. According to the league portraits, I'm bronze, playing against master players, despite me and my opponent having the same MMR as the players in this video! I'd be surprised if this bug gets fixed someday :)
@elyasmacherawb
@elyasmacherawb 3 жыл бұрын
That makes the 12 pool botch even worse, at least it's understandable in bronze
@mausbarthans1812
@mausbarthans1812 3 жыл бұрын
@@nefas909 im Masters 3 with 2k mmr have No Idea why
@Shegin
@Shegin 3 жыл бұрын
@GlowyBoi It's not for sure. Like 2-3 years ago the plat-diamond transition range was 3200-3400. So that's hardly even gold, more like platinum.
@Broformist
@Broformist 3 жыл бұрын
@GlowyBoi 2.8 K is where Plat starts. I would know, I've been stuck at Plat/D3 for years.
@pukseli2270
@pukseli2270 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't 2.7k more like gold/play level player? That guy got hit by the bronze league bug
@joshuadalton6063
@joshuadalton6063 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 2.7 is plat. Both of them played high gold/low plat for sure :o
@Resistor736
@Resistor736 3 жыл бұрын
Blizzard broke league placements (again). So many of bronze/silver mmr players are in masters, while gold/plat mmrs are in bronze. Masters are about 30% of playerbase, which is not normal.
@TripWithTheMoon
@TripWithTheMoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Resistor736 Yeah quite confusing being bronze and playing versus master again and again.
@dariorivas3579
@dariorivas3579 3 жыл бұрын
I know! WTF is going on with the placements? Last night I got placed in Masters 3 rank 51 (I mean, just the screen, obviously not actual masters) with 2346 MMR but it was warning me that I was about to go down to Bronze 3 (which I could understand honestly) XD XD XD
@jagk-du3yw
@jagk-du3yw 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuadalton6063 Over here plat is 2.8k
@kuroshashu
@kuroshashu 3 жыл бұрын
This is not a ZvP; this is a TvZ with custom unit skins.
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this Roach + Ravager reminded me so much of a Maurader + Siege tank combo meanwhile the enemy played Zegling (Zealot), Viper (High Templar), Lurker (Archon) and Hydralisks (Stalkers)
@seaassasin1855
@seaassasin1855 6 ай бұрын
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@booyawooya
@booyawooya 3 жыл бұрын
This is 100% the type of player who says they lost while having more than double the enemy’s apm without realizing that most of their apm was completely useless.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 Жыл бұрын
Negative micro
@anima94
@anima94 3 жыл бұрын
that "t" in the units lost at 18:00 made me lose it
@barforlifebarforlife6019
@barforlifebarforlife6019 3 жыл бұрын
what does it mean ?
@jakubprzybylski6670
@jakubprzybylski6670 3 жыл бұрын
@@barforlifebarforlife6019 look at their names
@nekrosis4431
@nekrosis4431 3 жыл бұрын
@@barforlifebarforlife6019 >player names :D
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
Ah I get it now
@sahiltalwar6360
@sahiltalwar6360 3 жыл бұрын
holy shit i didn't even notice that LMAO!
@hugopelland
@hugopelland 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Harstem says "this is surprising for bronze" all the way until the end... ya, because this was obviously NOT bronze LMAO. Clearly a ranking bug... come on Rank Roulette host :)
@emlen5847
@emlen5847 3 жыл бұрын
How did you know?
@lix5914
@lix5914 3 жыл бұрын
@@emlen5847 2.7k mmr in the complaint form
@AlexanderVRadev
@AlexanderVRadev 3 жыл бұрын
It even said 2769 MMR on the complaint form..... That is Platinum 2 I think. Not really sure where the MMR is right now between the ranks but I just got in Diamond 3 with 3200ish MMR so Plat 2 for 2700ish player seams about right.
@minimalgrammar1276
@minimalgrammar1276 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderVRadev I thought the high mmr was the joke/incorrect variable.
@Junebug89
@Junebug89 3 жыл бұрын
@@minimalgrammar1276 Nah this is WAY better than bronze for sure. Although that 12 pool ling "micro" is a bit suspect.
@Jerryhayes2
@Jerryhayes2 3 жыл бұрын
That is some of the best anti micro I have ever seen. Stutter stepping melee units. Dude is big brain in all the wrong ways lmao
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 жыл бұрын
galaxy brain give these lings rifles and they're all good... oh wait, that's marines! LMAO
@ZergIingLover
@ZergIingLover 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominikmagnus no, those are hydras, which are just more expensive Marines.
@colossaldonut5190
@colossaldonut5190 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this replay makes me want to finally give Starcraft 2 a shot in terms of playing it and sending in my first game ever played as an IMBA form to see how Harstem would react. All of my game knowledge comes second-hand from watching Lowko cast and Harstem videos so I should be basically GM right?
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
Come on in the water's fine.
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 жыл бұрын
clicking things fast and consistent is much more desirable to get into masters, than knowledge, since no amount of knowledge would save you, if you have less workers -> less eco -> less army (Lanchaster's law is no joke) and also late timings on any type of push/cheese. Then, after you get to masters with your micro and macro, you can have benefits from your knowledge gained in full.
@kelfablob9823
@kelfablob9823 3 жыл бұрын
I had a friend just like you, he went instant gold pretty much bc he had watched too many replays, without having played any starcraft himself, not even sc1.. Not on his first game ofc but in a matter of days. several years ago when WoL was new
@kingpet
@kingpet 3 жыл бұрын
ive watch plenty of nba games. if i try out basketball, i should be like Lebron James right?
@PenguinIceDelta
@PenguinIceDelta 2 жыл бұрын
MP is F2P I believe, do it! Try it on your own first, but PiG and ViBe have a B2GM series, both of which are really good. Vibe's is more macro-centric, PiG's I haven't seen yet. Winter also has the low APM challenge.
@the_rabidsquirel
@the_rabidsquirel 3 жыл бұрын
Negative micro is always great to watch, and that ling micro is one of the best examples I've seen. Nothing like a completely botched encounter where just A-moving would've been way more effective.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 Жыл бұрын
Protoss was supply blocked too so he had plenty of time to hit the probes
@mar_sh4617
@mar_sh4617 3 жыл бұрын
Now Harstem has learned what negative micro truly means. Thank you for the demonstration Tolo, playing terran and using a reaper would probably be better for you
@ChumbisDilliams
@ChumbisDilliams 3 жыл бұрын
This game is probably around mid-gold MMR wise, FYI. EU is better than NA but I think is still afflicted with the MMR/ranking bug that puts tons of ppl in Bronze. And this person looked pretty clearly higher than bronze to me!
@Nutellafuerst
@Nutellafuerst 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering too, how tf can 2700 be bronze when diamond starts at like 3400
@axh2
@axh2 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I was both a bronze and a master soon after that, because of that bug... SC2 has a lot of bugs in it... zerg units are only a small fraction of them
@Nutellafuerst
@Nutellafuerst 3 жыл бұрын
@@axh2 didnt use to be like this...glorious Blizzard "maintenance"... shitshow company
@snowdrop9810
@snowdrop9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nutellafuerst they even fired their last intern on Starcraft. Cant believe it.
@ChumbisDilliams
@ChumbisDilliams 3 жыл бұрын
@@axh2 Lol nice!
@sako2239
@sako2239 9 ай бұрын
That red cross Comparison made me remember that one Fake lawyer that didn't even graduated in lawyer school somehow managed to win 27 Cases STRAIGHT! At that point if I were a real lawyer id be embarrassed and impressed.
@MrSockfoot
@MrSockfoot 3 жыл бұрын
Negative micro, APM spam and then complaining about balance. Should switch to Terran.
@tolo9664
@tolo9664 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks harstem as always u are right ill see what i can do when ill do drones so gl in next episodes maybe well see us again (also sorry once again to all toss players especially to tolot he was just better gg)and also i didnt transision from roaches because i was winning isint that simple??
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could Roach like you, Tolo!
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 жыл бұрын
Well, imagine your opponent transition into immortals or voidrays, which is a couple of clicks away (Build robo -> build immortals/build stargate -> build voidray). Suddenly your lack of transition makes you loose your army rapidly and you have no tech to transition to. Zerg is often described as reactive race, since you can get out many units of your choosing quickly. So making a couple of tech structures in anticipation of a switch is quite common. For example a lot of the times roach warren is placed "just in case" Zerg is in need of a dozen of roaches to defend bases. With your lack of scouting and transition you could've been dead much earlier, if toss decided to make even a couple of immortals. It's like seeing you miss incoming traffic by an inch and still insisting on crossing every road with a blindfold and earplugs...
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
@@dominikmagnus c'mon man. Let Harstem handle the insult comedy.
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 жыл бұрын
@@damedley75 I'm just practicing. I need to get better at least at something...
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
@@dominikmagnus Trying to get your insult comedy APM a bit higher? 😂
@ruy7164
@ruy7164 Жыл бұрын
26:00 "I was expecting bronze league to be different." I think you were expecting something more along the lines of bronze league heroes episode 6, search it on youtube it was made by Husky.
@fayt9121
@fayt9121 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem: "Ive NEVER seen zerg mass roaches before." Me: "my guy how are you top teir and have never heard of stephano roaches?" also me: "Oh right that was like 10000 years ago..."
@elbala777
@elbala777 3 жыл бұрын
Havent he heard about Rogue? One of the best zergs of all time? XD
@elmo9863
@elmo9863 3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing first settlers game and loved to watch thos little dudes carryng stuff from one flag to another. Following the goods to be taken from one place to another. :P
@KhanjoOfEthiopia
@KhanjoOfEthiopia 2 жыл бұрын
that ling micro against the probes should be clipped as the example everyone uses for what negative micro looks like
@timbaleno9269
@timbaleno9269 3 жыл бұрын
So on the EU serve, ~2600-2700 is Gold 1. 2800 is Plat 3. So these guys are very far from bronze if the MMR they gave is accurate. I know this because that's exactly where my MMR is and this looks about how I play.
@hugopelland
@hugopelland 3 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks, you answered the question I had, this just didn't look like bronze at all...
@RiomaWF
@RiomaWF 3 жыл бұрын
I love the beginning of this video xD how hard he went on that ling micro was great
@anima94
@anima94 3 жыл бұрын
this guy would instantly go up a league if he build workers
@tolo9664
@tolo9664 3 жыл бұрын
Im injecting or just trying too as u can see after all fights i can do like 18-25 roaches at once
@emlen5847
@emlen5847 3 жыл бұрын
@@tolo9664 if you only expanded and transitioned to lurker vipers, you would have crushed that guy. Good luck on your next ladder games
@shantanurahman5084
@shantanurahman5084 3 жыл бұрын
@@tolo96643 base with each having 6 larva gives u 18 roaches. If u have 69 (nice amount) of workers u can max out on 3 rounds of injects (not even counting macro hatch and 4 bases). U don't even need no lurker viper. U be a chad and say mass roaches goes brrrrrrr. Make sure the that the protoss should complain next time.
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 жыл бұрын
@@tolo9664 Drone is the most overpower unit in Zerg arsenal. As they say "Soldiers win battles, logistics win wars." - with additional drones you can do better tech switches, you can afford taking fights because you can replenish your losses, you can build buildings more, you can get more upgrades than just the upgrades for one unit etc. etc. Build drones as your 1st objectives to make sure you have enough resources because if you dont have enough stuff from which you can build and morph units, chances are good you wont have enough.
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 2 жыл бұрын
@@tolo9664 you should have made some swarm hosts or some ultralisks
@kirktown2046
@kirktown2046 3 жыл бұрын
"Mine woods." -- Excellent.
@MrBulya
@MrBulya 3 жыл бұрын
He also had overlord speed to drop roaches in multiple bases, or mass drop the main. So tunneling claws wasn't the only tool he had.
@tokagerkun
@tokagerkun 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Age of Empires, would love to see you try age of empires 2 definitive edition, or age of empires 4. Unlike Blizzard, Microsoft seems to actually be investing in RTS games.
@michalvodicka5123
@michalvodicka5123 3 жыл бұрын
"Microsoft seems to actually be investing in RTS games", thats a good one! :D AoE2 servers are really bad, 1/4 of time, there is a problem to even start a game. ¨
@tokagerkun
@tokagerkun 3 жыл бұрын
@@michalvodicka5123 Oh there are some problems with servers? My bad, you are right that completely cancels out the fact that they released a definitive edition for all three of their age of empire titles, gave the most popular one two whole expansion packs, also gave 3 a whole expansion with new civilizations, regular updates and patches, renewed investment in the tournament and pro scene, and finally a full sequel being released. But no let's focus on the few things that aren't perfect like an absolute insane person.
@jovanpetrovich9359
@jovanpetrovich9359 3 жыл бұрын
Aoe4 is looking to be a worse game than aoe2 with a lot of basic ui missing.
@matszz
@matszz 3 жыл бұрын
11:34 165 supply of protoss, 3 stalkers, the rest is zealots sentries and archons. He said he ONLY made stalkers.
@Natsukashy
@Natsukashy 3 жыл бұрын
21:47 52 vs 0 (ZERO) army supply. I guess i have never seen a game at 19 Minutes where a player has exatly zero army supply for literally 10 seconds. Holy crap.
@AxelDerAlptraumraech
@AxelDerAlptraumraech 3 жыл бұрын
2.7k is Gold 1, if Blizzard actually fixed the ladder. Take that from a Bronze 1 2.9k Zerg with a 2.2k friend in Masters. Last season I ended in Plat 3 with 2.8k. And that guy played like a true Gold player :D
@666mandrake
@666mandrake 3 жыл бұрын
you hate to see it. I still think the captain needs to play more rank roulette. He seems a bit out of touch with us lowly plebs.
@Bobbydude6464
@Bobbydude6464 3 жыл бұрын
At 17:58 the Units lost screen shows that Tolo lost one 't'... Before losing that 't' he was Tolot. Holy shit...
@dabdoc3885
@dabdoc3885 2 жыл бұрын
the editing really kicks it up a notch. great job mr editor
@noneofyourbusiness3288
@noneofyourbusiness3288 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a "can I coach a low rank player to victory against a higher ranked player, without watching the game". Just By listening to thier description of what is going on. Could be a fun challenge imo. ^^
@Kassidar
@Kassidar 10 ай бұрын
17:58 Gave me a good chuckle there Hamster, putting a [t] in the units lost tab Poor Tolo, not quite a Tolot
@sycariummoonshine7134
@sycariummoonshine7134 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem gives such good advice! Really good for these bronze players. Truly makes him able to laugh as much as he wants at these games without feeling too bad about it. :D
@michaelsamchuk8103
@michaelsamchuk8103 3 жыл бұрын
2.7k isn’t bronze, it’s low platinum 3 or gold 1… he hit the wrong button
@ssvensic
@ssvensic Жыл бұрын
Some of the lower level games seem like AI playing a campaign. Like, there is some semblance of reason behind their actions, but overall it's just dancing around until a player decides to end the level.
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 3 жыл бұрын
36 drones vs 5 base Toss? That's ridiculously all in if the Toss had decent micro whatsoever would have been open and shut game.
@stevemason4753
@stevemason4753 3 жыл бұрын
@6:18 Almost 30 seconds supply blocked, capped at 44 ? @7:31 Another 20 seconds supply block...
@Ranf412
@Ranf412 3 жыл бұрын
I hate that the master border everyone worked so hard for to get is just meaningless now.
@OmegaMikePL
@OmegaMikePL 3 жыл бұрын
I figured it out: 100% he is an ADC moba player. He knows his builds, he knows how to kite, but for the love of god he doesn't know how macro. Overall I'm thinking that with better macro he can be very strong and climb up fast.
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 3 жыл бұрын
Naw he's the Mid lane assassin with ridiculous mobility that goes 2-0 early but never leaves lane or helps contests any objectives and just slowly auto attacks the turret while his team needs help everywhere else and wonders why he lost. It's totally not his fault it's those damned high templars how dare they beat my 3-3 upgrades
@matszz
@matszz 3 жыл бұрын
Bronze is just platinum players who are too affraid to play in plat. Neither of those two are actually bronze level players.
@kdimitrov89
@kdimitrov89 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Harstem, You are right, this player should not be bronze. I used to be Platinum 1 in the previous season and I was actually with lower MMR. This season I am bronze and my gf who is a few hundred MMR below me is silver 1... So this guy is around the platinum range.
@Axeiaa
@Axeiaa 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this guy is trying to start a "Beating bronze players with stupid stuff" series. The challenge is using roaches exclusively and in a 400IQ move got Harstem to do the narrating.
@bdac5653
@bdac5653 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem being so friendly beause the guy's bronze. Love to see it.
@dylansevitt
@dylansevitt 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't bronze, it's the league bug. They have gold 1 mmr
@AlexProtopopescu
@AlexProtopopescu 3 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe this is a bronze game. Hotkeys, creep spread, focus on upgrades, knows about roach RR, even with all the mishaps, still, this Z isn't bronze and neither is P for that matter.
@ryanbloodgood7031
@ryanbloodgood7031 3 жыл бұрын
I am actually in pain with that zergling micro
@ascetahedonista7161
@ascetahedonista7161 3 жыл бұрын
"It is imba or do I suck" into "Rank roulete"
@azakatura
@azakatura 3 жыл бұрын
So funny. Dude was actually going DOWN in workers (down to 28) with 0 economic dmg by toss for like 20 mins.
@raitis2112
@raitis2112 3 жыл бұрын
EU leader for bronze is broken. Bronze1 has 600-800 more MMR than Silver3 that is almost the same as Plat3
@crunofrost1276
@crunofrost1276 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and master too
@BeBopIsGod
@BeBopIsGod 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem's insults are always so creative, I feel more creative with my insults by just watching.
@similartracks
@similartracks 3 жыл бұрын
every protoss unit looks like a stalker
@TrueThanny
@TrueThanny 3 жыл бұрын
I had to do a double-take on that lost 't'.
@pax1359
@pax1359 3 жыл бұрын
He is not bronze, 2769mmr is plat 3
@saxus
@saxus 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but currently MMR ranges are messed up on EU server. Bronze 1: 2648 - 2972 Silver 3: 1840 - 2027 SIlver 2: 2027 - 2213 ... Gold 1: 2640 - 2760 Plat 3: 2760 - 2893 Plat 2: 2893 - 3027 So technically everybody below mid plat 2 is in Bronze. I wounder how Harstem didn't noticed that.
@Mihauki
@Mihauki 3 жыл бұрын
@@saxus I am bronze 2 at 2600 MMR, so the bug is not only shoeing for bronze 1.
@saxus
@saxus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mihauki yeah, but 2600 is less than 2648. 🙂 But yeah I can feel it. For long time I was a stable Gold 1. Sometime Inreached Plat 3 but never could stay in. And for this season I was in Bronze 1 until last week. (Now I'm finally over 3k mmr and be in plat 2.)
@MatthewWaltonWalton
@MatthewWaltonWalton 3 жыл бұрын
2.7K is not bronze, it's gold 3! I'm silver 1 and on 2530 MMR. I'm amazed someone can stutter step zerglings like that but use it to make them less effective. If only all the Zerg I met were this bad...
@Leonhart_93
@Leonhart_93 3 жыл бұрын
I think that how it is here on the Europe serve. Probably because the game is more popular and the level is higher.
@MatthewWaltonWalton
@MatthewWaltonWalton 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leonhart_93 I play on Europe, most people can't do that. For bad or good!
@ddenozor
@ddenozor 3 жыл бұрын
he clearly saw several times toss had no detection because he had overseer, and toss didn’t attack burrowed units. getting 3-4 lurkers would make him unstoppable
@dfsdsfsdfsadfdsfa223
@dfsdsfsdfsadfdsfa223 3 жыл бұрын
stutter stepping with zerglings XD
@cobble3231
@cobble3231 3 жыл бұрын
2700 MMR is gold 1 btw, not bronze.
@Mihauki
@Mihauki 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same bug. I thought I am bronze, caude it's says bronze 2 at 2500mmr
@trillhouse8078
@trillhouse8078 3 жыл бұрын
i was about to say! they both expand more than once and kinda-sorta spend their money, how the hell is this a bronze game?
@Leonhart_93
@Leonhart_93 3 жыл бұрын
Europe server, the level is way higher.
@crunofrost1276
@crunofrost1276 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leonhart_93 No, the ranked is bugged
@Amoeby
@Amoeby 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen that amount of roaches, not even in ZvZ
@andreasbaumbach8504
@andreasbaumbach8504 3 жыл бұрын
The lie counting in the end is the best. I want a hamster table with something like "big truth" to "big lie". Keep the editing up
@jacobsvensson8193
@jacobsvensson8193 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, before he sends in the replay dosen't he see the problems himself? At 14 minutes he got a 110 army supply vs 28, but he for some reason does not engage. When you're opponent is up 15 workers and mine from a gold base, it's obvious that eventually your army lead is gonna get smaller and smaller...
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem was spot on about what he did wrong. He never went above 36 drones... if he eco properly he could have maxed out like 17 times and just ran over the protoss a million times over.
@meandmyself1600
@meandmyself1600 3 жыл бұрын
@@Figgy20000 He had 53 workers at 13 mins, even 58 at 17 mins. After losing his third, he stopped replacing drones that he used to build stuff
@korbo2796
@korbo2796 3 жыл бұрын
People don't think, they just complain.
@joshuadalton6063
@joshuadalton6063 3 жыл бұрын
At one point he had 64 army supply against 0. And then the guy warped in 7 ht and made some archons.. could have won easily lol
@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594
@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594 3 жыл бұрын
I live with roaches here in Texas, you can’t kill them, they suk
@NeoBladeSC2
@NeoBladeSC2 3 жыл бұрын
7:07 They are not Bronze. Hamster showed a Master-Icon saying 2.700 MMR (at 2:25). There is a bug saying "You are Bronze" or "You are Masters", but actually you are Gold. I assume Tolo did not know about this bug, but with 2700 MMR you are not Bronze.
@sparkleknight3679
@sparkleknight3679 3 жыл бұрын
This would be about gold mmr?
@richardhauer8391
@richardhauer8391 3 жыл бұрын
It is plat 3 and to be honest, I would have said plat 3 too if this was rank roulette. It really doesn't look like a bronze game at all. Way too much micro.
@You-ul8qw
@You-ul8qw 3 жыл бұрын
2.7k is not bronze btw, its more mid-low gold I think, although that depends a lot on the server, unless there was a bug with showing the mmr and his is lower than it says I think this guy is about low gold
@Ole_Rasmussen
@Ole_Rasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a dia 1 terran but my zerg suuuucks, so I actually ran into a bronze protoss once. I went 1base muta and was able to use 10 mutas to pin his maxed zealot archon army in his 4 bases for about half an hour. I macroed up being 3 bases behind and got brood lords while he was staring at my mutas. It was shocking to me how much he expanded and how much army he made, but then he just stopped doing things after maxing out. Also, 2700 being bronze is really weird because my 3000 mmr zerg is plat. Where is gold and silver league?
@kaz7720
@kaz7720 3 жыл бұрын
Micro, no float, upgrades? Bronze my arse. You got duped harstem 2700 is plat
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 3 жыл бұрын
#Facts but, compared to Harstem, they may as well be 😅
@shieldmate7444
@shieldmate7444 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that is bronze league? They are surprisingly good.
@Junebug89
@Junebug89 3 жыл бұрын
Nah it's the league bug, by rating they're high gold or low plat.
@BrEAcHxROWDY
@BrEAcHxROWDY 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished this video and god damn tolo is a great player. Yes, he sucks. God awful macro and eco and fucking massing roach for 20 minutes? But even with those handicaps he was dominating every fight. For bronze, tolo is a legend.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 Жыл бұрын
Yeah kind of impressive unit control considering
@evilmurlock
@evilmurlock 3 жыл бұрын
8:50 oh yeah, I miss those times, it is just so chill to just vibe, and get into the atmosphere of the game when you dont have micro or eficiency on your mind yet. You just are, you just do. Man, so sad you cant be like that forever
@produck11
@produck11 3 жыл бұрын
would love to watch Age of Empires 1 or 2 gameplay from you
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 3 жыл бұрын
Since AoE4 is coming out soon, that may also be an option
@pablovirus
@pablovirus 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@xtaru9301
@xtaru9301 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn of war
@Avermra
@Avermra 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the combination of everything Gold MMR, but showing Bronze progress bar and Masters borders. Blizzard at its finest. Negative micro, APM spam, and balance whining Sometimes i really wonder how many of these players send these in unironically
@fdcrat
@fdcrat 3 жыл бұрын
There's bug currently where people who belong in gold are placed randomly in either bronze 1 or masters 3. I'm also in bronze, but I can max out before 9 minutes with 2/2 upgrades. My mmr is about 2800.
@AlexanderVRadev
@AlexanderVRadev 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a new bug? Because the running issue was everyone being shown as Bronze 3 regardless of MMR...
@bobitsmagic4961
@bobitsmagic4961 3 жыл бұрын
How are they bronce? i am gold and they are both way better than me
@dennisyoung6122
@dennisyoung6122 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't roaches have fast healing while burrowed?
@ferryfernandus1423
@ferryfernandus1423 3 жыл бұрын
18:50 700 to 820 APM as a bronze player.. damn
@Robert-iu4bx
@Robert-iu4bx Жыл бұрын
I wrote you recently about me thinking of playing SC2 - those guys being bronze scared shit out of me
@matthewclark7955
@matthewclark7955 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you barely mention the drone count.. like.. 25-38 drones total throught pretty much the whole game surely this is the main issue we're dealing with here?
@meandmyself1600
@meandmyself1600 3 жыл бұрын
Kill off the whole army of your opponent twice and call his race IMBA - nice one
@soju69jinro
@soju69jinro 3 жыл бұрын
sc2 needs another metric called WPM, not Words Per Minute, more like Wastefulness Per Minute.
@angelcolon4306
@angelcolon4306 3 жыл бұрын
god tier series
@jakes.5206
@jakes.5206 3 жыл бұрын
Is that an Easter egg Scrabble tile in the units lost tab at 18:02?
@Ivanical
@Ivanical 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually impressed. Sure he didn't know how or why he lost but not bad for a bronze player. Goes for both of them.
@AlexanderVRadev
@AlexanderVRadev 3 жыл бұрын
2700 MMR on the complaint form. He is Platinum. Ether the dude is having the placement bug and not know, or more likely he is trolling Harstem.
@uriahg4222
@uriahg4222 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Age of Empires, did you try AOE IV this past weekend?
@ryfors
@ryfors 3 жыл бұрын
Another fun episode, thanks Captain and Hamster
@LiD777
@LiD777 3 жыл бұрын
The intro for this on had me laughing a lot.
@liampett1313
@liampett1313 3 жыл бұрын
This guy could low key be plat...
@ImyManzProductions
@ImyManzProductions 2 жыл бұрын
"They want people to get better, they send you in" lmao
@millermeares6676
@millermeares6676 Жыл бұрын
“That is a big truth” made me LOL
@Skelli2
@Skelli2 Жыл бұрын
Maybe im a little too rusty to ask this since i havent played in years but wouldnt adding a lot of banelings to the zerg comp just stomp the toss army?
@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 3 жыл бұрын
9:42 microing comes after actually most likely
@ilikedragons7928
@ilikedragons7928 Жыл бұрын
Dear Captain sheep was added at Age of Empire 2 .In AoE 1 I watch them chop trees and hunt and keep building towers.
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
I was not this good when I was Bronze
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely had under 70 APM with Zerg
@damedley75
@damedley75 3 жыл бұрын
But I didn't blame my losses on balance
@januszkurahenowski2860
@januszkurahenowski2860 Жыл бұрын
It's really impressive where your 400 apm zerg micro is worse than clicking A move and taking your hands off the keyboard until they die, literally. It's sort of impressive in a way
@bobjohnson1096
@bobjohnson1096 3 жыл бұрын
I love how players build one unit and wonder how they lost.
@erickpoorbaugh6728
@erickpoorbaugh6728 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if Zerg could win massing one unit with bad macro, it would be Zerg that was IMBA.
@josephfield6903
@josephfield6903 3 жыл бұрын
2769 mmr is bronze??
@spandanganguli6903
@spandanganguli6903 2 жыл бұрын
Age of Empires 1, 2 , and 3 are such nostalgia trips.
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