These HGV drivers got a wage rise!

[@hanshartfiel6394]

That's disgusting. Companies like that don't deserve drivers

[@kezplant80]

Companies that pay this pathetic wage dont deserve drivers imo

[@medler2110]

They normally get the drivers they deserve. Good companies seldom advertise, jobs are filled by word of mouth.

[@alexrobinson2281]

Ray Keedwell , tight as a ducks arse

[@davidlipski863]

Back in the 90s i spoke to a driver who was delivering to an rdc he had a new Scania and said he was on good money , but it turned out when he was tipped and on the way to reload his rate changed and he was not paid until reloaded and most were 30 to 40 miles a way. At the time my firm paid £6 an hour for 8 hours and £9 over with double time Sundays and between 9 pm and 6am £1-20 dark money i worked out i was £50 more a week better off driving a 5 year old ERF. It all changed in around 96 when a new company took us over and put us on a salary with no extra for Sundays or night work. You can get£ 11-40 to £12-85 an hour in Aldi filling shelves with some firms not paying for CPC training and only paying £12 -£15 an hour for 60 hours with all the pressure and responsibility you have to ask if it's worth it. I spent 38 years in transport now retired.

[@FluffyAdmiral]

haha best way to incentivise drivers to prove that it can take 9 hours to drive that 30 mile distance between pick-up/drop off points... That is if they'll ever find someone who is willing to do this job for less than you can get in a supermarket or warehouse...

[@muttleydog4682]

I'm an ADR tanker driver, £40,000 per year, working Monday to Friday 6am till 3pm no nights out, pick your job guys.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Jesus! Who for? That's shit for ADR work.

[@BlutoandCo]

No worker should have two rates. Your employed to do that job, in those hours.

[@ALMELMUSIC]

Would it happen in any other industry??? Maybe ONLY if someone was on stand-by, NOT actually working!!!!

[@Ianjdgale]

Just tell them, I’ll drive but I’m not doing that other shite.

[@Crushwokery]

In a lot of cases tipping a load is harder and more dangerous than babysitting a steering wheel. I say that with respect as I'm a C +E myself. Try closing a curtain in howling gale force winds and torrential rain, hmmm❓ Or, pulling badly maintained curtains that have seized rollers in icy conditions. Standing next to a bulk powder tanker for an hour in the dark in the middle of winter blowing the product into a sylo and then with hands that refuse to work due to the cold packing the heavy hoses away. Or the ADR tanker drivers with the same problems but with those guys the actual delivery is the most dangerous part of their day. WHAT A CROCK OF 💩

[@peterkelly9490]

Glad I got out of it, drive buses for £16 m-f £18.60 Sat £19 Sunday 8 hrs day know what time I start &finish and in my own bed every night. Miss trucking not a bit

[@gravemind6536]

I'm the same mate got all my license I do buses now. £15.60 basic for my rota 42.5 hours average overtime mon-fri is 1.25x and 1.5x at the weekend or bank holidays + lieu day for bank holidays. £2 an hour night premium overtime rate applies to night premium too. Know everything over 4 weeks in advance.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

I sacked trucking to work for Diamond 🔹 buses in Manchester. But I've just secured a job at Morrisons in Gadbrook on 20 coins an hour.

[@ozzyoben]

that is why they are suffering to find drivers. this is modern slavery

[@jamesr5050]

i find its the same companies every week on indeed looking for drivers ask yourself why then stay well away

[@tonycalow708]

Im a retired LGV1 driver. I last drove 20 years ago but was on ESA as I did my back in so couldnt work. When I last worked I was on £11.48/hr. That wage advertised, after inflation over the years is taken into account, is a massive wage CUT!! So what can be done about it? ORGANISE yourselves! Form a Union, start a Drivers organisation if you dont like the word Union! Until you do that, NOTHING will change! If your not willing to organise, stop whingeing and moaning!! Simples!

[@jimmylovett5833]

Night out money should not be part of your wages. If a office worker has to stay out they get hotel evening meal and breakfast paid on company expenses

[@thetruckerseye]

I think I will be doing a video on the night out money (or lack of) sometime. Just getting a few bits together for it!

[@medler2110]

Should be one rate, then everybody knows what they are earning, at least this is simple though, some companies have so many bonus payments for fuel economy, non damage or just attendance its difficult to work out if they've paid you correctly and if you query it they'll fobb you off with some reason you're out of pocket. I work for different companies, one is a day rate and you get that whether its 15hours or 1 hour, swings and roundabouts, but I've rarely done a 15 hour shift, 10 is normal, but many times I've run in a couple of hours, job done go home.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

There's a KZbin blogger who's just finished working for Keedwells. He's not got much good to say about them.

[@thetruckerseye]

I think I know the one!

[@johnshaw8013]

I won't work for anyone who pays like this, if everyone took a stand, this shit would disappear overnight!

[@gravemind6536]

I'm taking my stand I'm going back to bus driving I'll be out earning 95% of Lorry drivers, no nights out, know my shifts with set start and finish weeks in advance and I choose my own rota and what OT I would like to do if any, no tacho or DVSA to worry about either.

[@SISU889]

Meanwhile , driving a train £60,000 plus ! Truckers have far more responsibility and hands-on requirements !

[@grimsbyhackney479]

What would you like to see happen? Train drivers money is cut or yours goes up? What do you think is the main factor behind train drivers getting a decent wage and truck drivers not? If you can work that out then you'll know what to do about it.

[@SISU889]

@@grimsbyhackney479 Unions !

[@paulsherwood6010]

Make the most of it..your industry is much easier to automise than trucks I’d imagine..& they are trying automise our industry..

[@paulsherwood6010]

I’d rather retrain & get out

[@gravemind6536]

@@grimsbyhackney479 Train drivers are unionised and they stick together. Lorry drivers don't stick together and there are far too many cheap foreign labour imports willing to do it for peanuts even post Brexit. Until Lorry drivers stick together and actually unionise and make demands they'll be paid as little as possible. Bus drivers have unions and they are paid more than 95% of Lorry drivers just to drive a bus on a set route with hours you know way in advance with no nights out.

[@anids1988]

no its should just be a hourly rate! like i said on your pervious video my company im with atm is flat rate for first 8, increases after 8 hours, weekends and bank holidays are increased rate! they do take 1 45min break off you a day (but in my experience so far i have always had more) is it the best paid? no ofc not but im also a new pass and i dont have the privilege for being that picky, but this job is for someone with 1yr experience!! i know that isnt alot but with that you could be looking at jobs that pay 17-18 a hour from what i seen, there was even some in the 20 a horu

[@thetruckerseye]

totally agree

[@bloodaxe-sjt7671]

I bet you they dont pay anything for your breaks neither 😂

[@TheThejpmshow]

Correct

[@gravemind6536]

Many firms have awful wage structures that are designed to short change drivers and confuse them too, I have the wage structure for one of the biggest haulage firms in the UK and can email it if you wish to do a video on it, they don't openly publish their shitty pay scheme in job adverts. I believe drivers should have a basic rate, an overtime rate, a weekend/bank holiday rate and night out and meal allowance all this other performance nonsense and the retention bonuses and variations need to go. Basic HGV driver should be on £20 an hour or very close to it and all overtime at least time and a quarter.

[@thetruckerseye]

and they all wonder why they are constantly looking for drivers!!!

[@Ianjdgale]

£17.50 absolute minimum, 10 hours minimum pay, do not accept anything less

[@SwaghettiYoloneses]

New C+E looking for work here, any advice would be appreciated.

[@gravemind6536]

Try to get on with one of the supermarkets, depending on your financial responsibility consider agency work, it's the right time of year golden quarter more drivers needed, you will find most of the haulage industry is like the job in this video with low pay and scummy pay schemes. Consider class 2 work if you can't get class 1 work it's a start. Alternatively you could consider doing something entirely different because the haulage industry is awful, I have class 1 and my bus license, I'm going back on the buses this haulage stuff is BS I'll out earn 95% of HGV drivers. Consider once you have experience getting a HIAB ticket as that work pays more and tramping is rare, you can also consider getting your ADR but the class 2 ADR work can be hard going (delivering heating oil and Gas canisters to rural farms, caravan sites and scenic and non HGV freindly rural villages). If you take my advice and do bus driving instead Arriva and Stagecoach both train you up free of charge. Ignore my negativity by the way you might actually like HGV driving or get lucky and find a brilliant employer. But if you don't like it consider buses instead or something entirely different.

[@shanemaguire2864]

Get another job, forget about the trucking it’s on its knees, we aren’t even taking on agency drivers now, if I had my time again I would avoid trucking

[@martynlawrence2365]

Different rates of pay in the same shift - Definitely NOT! In fairness to Keedwells, at least they're up front on what they pay although, Keedwells have always been known as poor payers. Class 1 drivers should be on a basic £20.00 for days!

[@barrycrosby8602]

This disingenuous claim of 52 k per year, do you really want to work 60 hours plus per week and sleeping in a tin can to get this type of money, drivers have always been and will continue to be exploited by greedy firms that will never change, what you should look for as a driver is a job where you are home every or most nights and you average between 40 and 50 hours per week, there are jobs out there that pay around 50 k per year for less than 50 hours per week and you are home every night, my advice is to continually look for these jobs and if you are unfortunately working for one of the cowboy firms make it clear to them that you are looking elsewhere and are only willing to do the minimum so don't expect miracles

[@DavidBrain-w6j]

Embarrassing

[@JackTuped]

Am sure you can't expect to be paid when sitting on your phone

[@gravemind6536]

Why not? You're compensated for your time in a job that you could spend do anything else you enjoy. Every single minute you're at work should be paid.

[@thetruckerseye]

Do office workers who answer phones get hourly wage rates dropped if they are sitting in the office but nobody has rung in?

[@michaelelcoat6323]

Not very good pay for our essential truck drivers in any company as you all now do a.stressfull job with a lot of responsibility you need 2 per hour pay rise bye for now

[@johnshaw8013]

M62 J23 - J22.... I know it well 😊 I get £15 days and £16 nights via agency 😢

[@gravemind6536]

Inlcuding holiday pay? That's fucking disgusting

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

That's not great.

[@johnshaw8013]

@Nickbaldeagle02 that's class 1 work too! Holidays are paid on top buy accrued weekly.

[@randompotatoguy9347]

and they wonder why no one wants to become hgv drivers, you literally earn more in retail stores than driving trucks and dealing with stress from left and right!

[@gravemind6536]

I have my PCV and C+E so can drive any vehicle with 4 or more wheels, I gave haulage a go but it's a total con and run by crooks. I'm going back to bus driving I'll out earn 95% of HGV drivers and get to go home and sleep in my kingsize bed.

[@randompotatoguy9347]

@@gravemind6536 I've done a week of removals for a removal company driving a class 2 and vans. 2 rates, van rate and lorry rate, I spent more time in a van than the lorry, so I quit.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

​@@gravemind6536I went back on the buses after a 9 year absence but I'm back trucking in 2 weeks. Morrisons are recruiting. £20.07 for the PM shifts that I'm after. Lovely. I cudda done nights on £23. 71 but I like having a life. The jobs are out there. Use the buses as a stop gap while you job hunt. Easier to get a job when you're already in a job.