These minor adjustments made the Quadzilla WAY FASTER! (LT500R Jetting)

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[@josefrobbins8781]

People seem to forget these Zillas are grunters, which is great for the dunes, and btw your build sounds healther than 70% of the old 2 Stroke Suzuki LT's running the dunes here out West. Almost like everyone has forgotten how to tinker on these things, glad to see ya'll are the exception. Also Damn, no pliers required! You and John need to hit up a Fitness KZbinr, or even JujiMufu's place for a episode of grip gauntlet, a day of riding, and quad inspired workouts. Heck, I'll make a workout plan right now Haha LEG DAY Warm Up: Deep Squat Carb Cleaning/Tinkering. Arm/Core Stretch bending Over the Seat reach because you dropped the wrench on the other side and don't wanna walk around Progressive Overload Legs 3X10: 250r Kickstart - 450cc High Comp Kickstart - 500cc 2 Stroke Kickstart. 3X10: No Ramp Poor Man's Quad load Squat - 250r - Predator - Can-Am Renegade Shoulders & Grip 3X10Tugs: Bumper Pull your rig out of the Sand - KFX 450 - Can Am Renegade - Can Am Side by Side 3X10: Clutch dumps with a Twist Throttle Lol P.R. Goal - 550cc 2 Stroke Big Bore Stroker "Raw No decompression valve" - Reps till Failure. End Goal 700cc

[@jeffdavison8421]

For a budget build you did fine with the ole Zilla. Most folks would have walked away with the case damage you had. I went through the same scenario on a 89 CR250R frame up job. Kudos Mike.

[@humpday2267]

Rule number 1 always change 1 jetting factor at a time. Just makes things a lot more simple.

[@StupidFastJohn]

Broooskayyyyy what a day, laughed my ass off when i saw the gopro footage of leaving the helmet cam on 🤣👊

[@4bearsi678]

Got the ole daisy thrasher running good.. Mike this is coming from a guy that’s 41 and has been throwing a leg over a quad since he was 4, I’ve rode, worked on and owned nearly every quad made and I’ll say I like the way you work on them and how you do the rebuilds. You’re meticulous like myself and like to do things in a step process like you do as well. . I find that less things get missed or done wrong this way. Even tho we ran a powersports shop for a few years like yourself Im not a certified powersports tech but I’ve been wrenching on them as long as I could turn a wrench. I appreciate that you and John are still enjoying stomping gears on atvs and haven’t started throwing a walking cane in a rubber-band driven SxS yet.lol.. Not to say there not fun and I wouldn’t be opposed to having one as a secondary, but they will never have the seat of the pants thrill like a atv or dirt bike.. If Y’all ever get down to Kentucky we’ve got a few good spots to rip around on.

[@mandimcginley5270]

Holy f*** dude He's not going to read this f****** story wrote him

[@4bearsi678]

@@mandimcginley5270 First off I ain’t your dude thank God ! I don’t give a damn who reads it or if anyone does and sure as hell don’t give a damn if you do! So take your character counter and stick it in your troll ass! 🖕🏼

[@Thewatson77]

Yeah man y’all got her dialed in now. Such a great sounding and looking quad now that she’s been loved on. Great job guys! 🤘🏼

[@timothykinsey6685]

Hey Brother zilla owners. I bought mine new in 1987 (early 88 model), still have it. First off thanks for doing these video's, you're a natural at that. Some advice from me. You will soon realize how heavy the zilla steering is. It's the 10 degree castor angle (pretty much a chopper). You mentioned a 250R, they have a 5 degree angle, it's like power steering. Adjustable a-arms....dial it back to 0 degrees, super easy steering (I did it to mine and can ride all day now). Also, a lightened flywheel really makes her hit hard..common mod done to stock flywheel. I had my porting done at Duncan Racing ( National Kit). Go to the web page, awesome zilla carb tuning info, and they have info about everything too, Technical pages section...incredibly easy to follow. Love your videos...no annoying music, just 2 stroke noise....thanks.

[@foxpuremage]

you two are some of my favorite youtubers

[@chandlerprall2733]

That thing is so sick u just built a blaster up I put a 220 high compression top end and stroker bottom end and did all the porting on it also keep up the good work man

[@anthonybcarroll8968]

Man I love the sound of that ping

[@thatoneguy2756]

Brappin behind the neighborhood lol

[@syzygy3239]

The 500 has a longer warmup time. It makes a big difference to how it cleans up.

[@josephwalck6641]

Yes but do you think maybe it would be like they said that it needs to have the break in period before you can actually start really go hard on it

[@detroitsuburbsrepresenting7248]

Anyway you put it that quad is slow with no torque or jumping capabilities get yourself anything but a Suzuki....... Quit pissing your time away.

[@fastmachines500r8]

@@detroitsuburbsrepresenting7248 lmao you’re a dumbass, hop off your daddy’s computer and go to bed kid.

[@jimmadonna1436]

Mike, you did an excellent job with the Quadzilla. I like the respect you have for John by taking it easy on his Quad in the last video. Your a good Man. I respect that.

[@loganvelez7676]

Come on viewers really need to step up your game and subscribe to his channel. Really great people here. Keep it up Sabo!!!!

[@josefrobbins8781]

Im gonna be real. I never understood why it's so hard for people to thumb something up! Does it mess up an order of music or disorganize something!? I keep all my best finds/music/vids in my favorite, and I use my likes for people I'm subscribed to. It's not that hard...

[@MichaelSabo]

You guys are awesome; neither one of us could be doing what we love without your support; thank you 👊🤘

[@ianmangham4570]

They're so rare these days original suzi lt 500s, another decade and the value will be through the roof, ORIGINALITY IS 🗝

[@dennissciannajr2615]

You should consider building a 91-92 Lt250r to the same level as your trx250r for head to head. I know the Zilla is basically stock with a pipe and good tune but for shits and giggle would love to see how it squares against some Shees with its longer wheel base

[@conniestevenson226]

A lt250r will never ever ever ever be built like the trx250r

[@josefrobbins8781]

That, or a full no holds bar Tecate 4 build!

[@apbtbulldogs8826]

Jetting is everything, i remember my first time trying to figure out jetting on a twin Shee when i put aftermarket pipes on it. It was dogging on the top but then it made a certain sound when we changed it and we knew before ever riding it that we nailed it.

[@andrewspoto9378]

Helmet should be on at all times. It is when you least expect it you wish you had one on. And it is a good practice for young viewers.

[@lmCIoudz]

I cracked up at the safer side and clutch dump part, I was thinking exactly that in my head!

[@MichaelSabo]

Lmao 😂

[@AndrewS1989]

Good work guys saving some classic quad history right there👍🏻👍🏻

[@vipr28]

Looks like a certified ripper! Nice job guys!

[@josephwalck6641]

Oh yeah wow boyyy that sounds way way more better now that you adjusted it

[@terrynicewonger5434]

You went so fast it blew your Pocket inside out…. Sounded better right away it’s awesome. 75 percent of people under estimate the jetting and how it makes crispy throttle really snap no delay.

[@razeenhattia1450]

Mike you are the "Kingquad" dude,,,, love your vids keep it up👍👍👍👍

[@andrewjackson6986]

you two having way too much fun keep up the great work guys!!!

[@tonyfoley9988]

Again what I do to get a quad like this, but I'd have to change to a thumb throttle. I'm just not a fan of the ol'twist throttle, but great job Sabo. Save the Sport Quads 🤙🏻👍🏻

[@josefrobbins8781]

Twist Throttle on a Quad? As God intended.

[@ericsilverware4561]

The old zilla sounding fresh good stuff guys 🤘

[@justinsnyder6256]

Did a great job dethaching the grass lol. Zilla has the best seat ever!

[@sniglib1]

Great job mike and john keep it up guys💯

[@michaelmatute4963]

Man I can't wait to finish mine you guys built the best quads you'll need to have a coustom quadzilla shop😜👍🏽

[@MichaelSabo]

I appreciate that bro!

[@josephwalck6641]

I am being honest it definitely definitely sounds great man very very good work Mikey

[@mikeysims7597]

Yes it sounds so much better and runs like a monster

[@petes_powersports7438]

My neighbors would so call cops

[@alcopower5710]

He must have very tolerant neighbors lol

[@joedirte716]

@@alcopower5710 democRAT

[@ni_wink84]

Those big CC two stokes sound so good!

[@jimmadonna1436]

170 58 And 4th clip spot she sounded really responsive Where is the air screw set at? Correct jetting is plus or minus 5 HP. Love the cases for the Jets. I can't tell you how much I love your house and the upper Echelon neighborhood. People are normal. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys at the sand dunes.

[@fredrickheinecke3640]

They are amazing machines.. Duncan racing has a amazing porting job adds around +20 more power. Really wakes it up... 4th and 5th gear roll on wheelies like you're doing in 3rd

[@MichaelSabo]

I can believe it! I think John will be doing mods down the road 🤘

[@brendanhickey9771]

20hp from a port job? Sounds like alot

[@MichaelSabo]

@@brendanhickey9771 it needs to be paired with the correct exhaust and intake. The reason it can be so drastic on a quadzilla is because the port design is so inefficient in stock format.

[@brendanhickey9771]

@@MichaelSabo ok , I assume your talking at the crank

[@thomasdaniels7542]

Super excited watching your builds bro!!! Really love all the quads especially the 500 Zilla!! Thanks for the videos

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you for watching them Thomas 👊

[@robanderson6655]

got those Obor Advents on my Raptor after seeing you use them they are the best tires out

[@christopherament8638]

I don’t understand why this video doesn’t have more likes

[@700rRaptorLife]

That is one bad ass quad awesome build 🦾🦾🦾🔥🔥🔥

[@davidstoner27]

Gj bro cam out dam good keep it up

[@mzondi1970]

I grew up in the hay day and I want one of these or a banshee I'm 51 and want something from my teen years

[@productions6994]

Get the banshee!

[@Davido50]

Oh yea never give up riding. May I make a suggestion instead of buying an OLD machine of questionable history at best get a new Yamaha Raptor 700R. Amazing modern sport quad. I own one. I owned the older ones too!

[@romper4444]

@@Davido50 nahhhh get an older 2 stroke, so much more fun, raptors are 'meh. nothin special

[@ethanblaser7830]

It would be awesome to see you do a lt250r build. It would be a cool big brother, little brother series as well.

[@dannydepino3874]

Hey Mike you nailed it nice job she's gorgeous.

[@rubenechezabal6397]

Good job on the quad, I know how hard it is to tune a carb currently doing one... am happy though that you are going to a genuine carb...

[@AnDrEw122100]

I don’t know why but the more you guys ripped it the more I laughed . It’s like you guys couldn’t stop 🤣 the torque was making you guys laugh 🤣

[@jacobrechis5217]

Awesome vid, I guess I’ll drop my main just a couple too, cause my zilla starts easy, runs great in the midrange but breaks up a little in the top end like yours does. My plug is a hair on the rich side too.

[@chrisyeahbuuwassrileegowyn9279]

Nice job as always Sabo! I knew you( or John ) were not done with the Zilla... Love all the 2 stroke Sport Quads! The laughter and smile’s are the part you have to experience too understand!🤘

[@brianj123458]

The best thing to do with a Chinese carb is throw it in the trash and put out the money and buy a good carb LOL. The experience I have with a Chinese carb is you get it dialed in and after it sits for a week or two then you go to ride it again its not dialed in anymore pure junk carbs. Thanks for sharing with us have great day

[@chillycheeze2207]

How does it go from *dialed* to *not dialed* does the dial fairy come touch it when your asleep?

[@Ja-fh8io]

Not only that those Chinese carbs never fit like they should

[@MichaelSabo]

lmao!

[@DadUsed2Skate]

I agree with you here. I bought a Chinese for a 400ex. Lasted like two days and stopped working. Put a Honda carb, ran better then w we

[@davidblum_]

@@MichaelSabo I bought a 40mm Chinese fr carb for my 400ex and I haven’t had any problems for over 3 months it’s sat for a month and still starts first push

[@Neworleansickk]

The dynamic duo 🔥🔥

[@BGnation573]

Has anyone said anything to you guys about the crank case pulling oxygen and blowing up? I had heard about somewhere but I can’t remember how the story goes.

[@MichaelSabo]

I've had a lot of people reaching out to help with typical quadzilla problems but I haven't heard of this one?

[@tstrick5390]

I give a 👍🏻up every video. Always great content with good attitude.

[@sethfricke616]

Awesome awesome quad guys its a beast

[@jonnyretro2235]

Good work guys on the build. 👍🏻. Think I would switch to an air striker and do some plug chops when jetting also. Sounds abit too rich on the needle. I’d say it would start to plug foul on tight trails etc. South Texas banshee has really good jetting videos to expand your knowledge on reading plugs etc.

[@gregb9253]

I agree it did sound rich on the needle to me

[@KilroyMotorSports]

love videos keep pumping them out!

[@elwayb.602]

Dude she sounded happy after the change in the middle of the field

[@gregmorgan8103]

I told you those Chinese carbs are totally different to dial in! Once you get it there ok they work fantastic with methanol since you gut them and drill em out. For 30$ cant beat it! Genuine is definitely the way go but alot more. Sounded great!

[@MichaelSabo]

You were spot on Greg!

[@TNTMOTO]

Motor sounds great.

[@nickcollene8302]

Man that’s a beast omg

[@sugashizane]

Get that oem carb on there boys. Good vid. Thanks for the entertainment

[@colindefreece2601]

That quad is a tank!You might have to play with the idle screw/air fuel screw

[@jamesmalloy9626]

Need that bar for front fenders to keep them from cracking.. beautiful bike .. great work .. 500s are in league of ther own... mine seemed to do better after shaved head n decking cylinder n ran pump n race mixture..

[@MichaelSabo]

Good looks; we were unable to find the front brackets new or used so John is fabbing some up 🤘

[@danyguenette2859]

i saw one quadzilla 6000 cad...in quebec but i like the quad racer 250 to loll i watch!! sorry for my english thank mike!! niceee video

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you for watching Dan 🤘

[@chadcaudill509]

That Quad look dropped! Sits real low...Good job guys...keep the different Sport Quads commin! Hopefully a big boy soon Trx 700xx and Kfx 700!

[@MichaelSabo]

I know you wanna see that 700XX bro! 🤘

[@chadvalliere8697]

That’s how they sat from the factory

[@warriordad3509]

Sounding Krispy!! 🤙

[@timjohnson9230]

Gotta love the zilla. I always said Suzuki is the only manufacturer to have two quads shut down. Because they couldn't be beat. It really irritates my Yamaha friends lol.

[@fastmachines500r8]

What two quads, besides the lt500, lt450r?

[@timjohnson9230]

@@fastmachines500r8 those are the 2. When I tell my yamaha friends they stopped being produced, because they were too fast, and couldn't be beat. They get all sorts of fired up lol.

[@fastmachines500r8]

@@timjohnson9230 those are yammy guys for you, banshee guys are the worst, my friends always make excuses, I guess it would be ruff to have your 4 mill shee with t5 toomeys het drug by a lt250r that’s just mildly ported, no need to pull my zilla out lol

[@timjohnson9230]

@@fastmachines500r8 I never actually rode the 500. However I've seen what they can do. I once rebuilt a 250 for a friend. He was so scared of it, I ended up buying it

[@mileycyprus7210]

LTR450s were stopped because of emissions issues

[@matthewgonzales1113]

The emulsion tube from the original often fit into the Chinese knockoffs. At least they do for the banshee ones. This way you can use the oem jets in the Chinese carb body.

[@brainstain22]

Sabo ftw...once you guys got the jetting closer I could here how much crisper the throttle response was. And it wasn't leaving a thick trail of smoke like it was the first rip. Does the knock-off pwk have an air screw or fuel screw? Maybe a slight tweak butyour in the ball park for sure. Can't wait for the dunes...🤘

[@nunyabizzness5477]

Put a vent line on the cases or you WILL get dirt and water in there! The fitting is right behind the left rear cylinder base stud. It runs up under the gas tank. The lower coolant line is awful close to the pipe. Check your routing in your book. Also, the fender brace is missing, so that might hurt your fenders. Changing jets in a overgrown field? Ballsy. Funny that John calls it a couch. Loren Duncan describes it like that too. A "big fast couch" I believe.

[@choppaholic7204]

Quad life‼️🔥

[@arcticcatkickass]

The ziller imediately woke right up that was impressive guys holy shit

[@Zalagar619]

I've always wanted to ride a Quadzilla. Never had the chance too. I really want to see how it feels compared to my banshee.

[@QuadGuyCy]

Can't wait to see it this weekend. Hope you get a real carb before the weekend.

[@michaelkelley7615]

Good job mike sounds great

[@GixxerKris]

I would have definitely pulled the spark plug and read it when doing jetting setup. It’s the best way to know if your rich or lean and will give you peace of mind on your setup.

[@brainstain22]

Prob needs more riding time to get some color on the plug. But yeah I use the plug for tuning on my four strokes. Two strokes by sound.

[@coloradodirtbike5930]

If you ride and build a lot of two strokes, you can feel if it's too lean or rich without even needing to plug chop it. Boggy or delay too rich. Hanging idle or not revving out just falling flat up top too lean on the needle/main jet.

[@GixxerKris]

@@coloradodirtbike5930 I agree to an extent. But on a fresh build that you have never ridden or had experience with the plug is the best way I my opinion.

[@DownAndDirtyOffRoad]

Things a beast!

[@tommyderavel646]

You guys are legends

[@josephwalck6641]

That's true too I didn't even think about that it could be a break in period so it should not be beat on like that

[@420banshee7]

Hell I'm an old school 2 stroke guy for life and I've always been told to break it in like you ride it. I've had and rebuilt many badass 250Rs and banshees and master blasters and almost every 2 stroke dirt bike made and I always fire it up and let it idle a bit as soon as I get it back together and rev it a bit and listen for any noises in the motor and let it warm up a bit and kill it and let it cool and if everything seems good I'll take it out and putt around and get it all warmed up so it's not breaking up and if everything still sounds good I let her rip just like I would any other time and have never had any issues with the 2 strokes that way I would not do a 4 stroke break in like this though but with the 2 strokes I never have them bore the cylinders super tight tolerance wise to the piston because they will want to try and seize up a bit once they get really warm with this break in method once everything cools down it will free back up and just takes a little more care to break it in but with not so tight of tolerances you will be just fine breaking it in like you ride it.

[@420banshee7]

Hell I'm an old school 2 stroke guy for life and I've always been told to break it in like you ride it. I've had and rebuilt many badass 250Rs and banshees and master blasters and almost every 2 stroke dirt bike made and I always fire it up and let it idle a bit as soon as I get it back together and rev it a bit and listen for any noises in the motor and let it warm up a bit and kill it and let it cool and if everything seems good I'll take it out and putt around and get it all warmed up so it's not breaking up and if everything still sounds good I let her rip just like I would any other time and have never had any issues with the 2 strokes that way I would not do a 4 stroke break in like this though but with the 2 strokes I never have them bore the cylinders super tight tolerance wise to the piston because they will want to try and seize up a bit once they get really warm with this break in method once everything cools down it will free back up and just takes a little more care to break it in but with not so tight of tolerances you will be just fine breaking it in like you ride it.

[@OperatorASF]

Looking good mike 🤙🏻

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you Matt!

[@OperatorASF]

@@MichaelSabo no problem bud

[@josephgentilejr9059]

Keep up the great vids 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@SethMullins418]

Are you guys even checking the spark plug to see what color it is

[@Dfour]

Damn it! now I'm looking for a Quadzilla

[@jordanpanich]

Heck yeah! Now I need a Zilla!!!

[@CainSample]

Why don't you check your plug when changing jets? That will tell you alot also

[@dennisbrooks186]

Deff sounds better at the end. I think u should try going down to a 165 to see if it goes lean there. Run a plug chop so u know for sure where ur at. So that way when u get to the dunes u will truly know what size to jet up to. Or once u get the real carb on there do that. But yeah ur hella close lol sounds mint now and rips way better!!!!!

[@MichaelSabo]

I think you're right; going down further would make a more crisp top end but we are going to be switching the carb anyways so we didn't go any further on the china carb

[@dennisbrooks186]

@@MichaelSabo for sure. But ya I always go past where I think its good, run a chop, verify its lean at that jet size. Then ill go back up a size or 2 and shes mint. Dialing in my 521 shee this weekend!!! Sooo wish maine wasn't so far from legends tour...can't wait to see that footage, tons of sweet bikes there!!!

[@bluetrepidation]

Lean and mean. 2 stroke mantra.

[@tstrick5390]

John got them ViseGrip hands. 🤲

[@shoes121255]

Isn't this the spot in the other video where you didn't want to ride too long cause the cops might show up???

[@MichaelSabo]

With the KFX? Yes. The Quadzilla is a lot quieter than the KFX, we didn't even ride it in this video except to get me to the basin; it literally hurts your ears in person.

[@ccsoft1846]

gotta love all the parts he links that you cant buy

[@taylor_imaging]

As i stated in the other video it is supposed to have a Mikuni flat slide on it.

[@tayloratwell4205]

Nice video! Love the Quadzilla. So question on making pilot, main, and needle changes all at once? I have learned the hard way that plug chopping is the only safe way of jetting rather than by the seat of your pants / feel. Keep up the awesome videos! Your history of CPI was super cool as well!

[@daryleduardo7055]

Unless the Keihin or Mikuni is completely destroyed rebuild it. You can find good in used oem carbs and just rebuild it

[@scottyweb6375]

Ya man I have an 88 LT 500quadzillz an the92 LT 250 quad racer never buy the Chinese parts specially whenever ur talking about carburetors the Chinese ones are just junk, always try to find the original parts if you can first obviously but believe it or not the LT 250 quadracer I have the powerbands are incredible it gives the 500 a run for it's money,you gotta try to find a the LT 250 watch how impressed ull be,I like the thumb throttle personally but if ur goin all-day it would make more sense to get the hand throttle coz they sell the throttle peice for ur hand like they sell for st bikes that helps ur hand from hurting when it out all-day it just snaps on over the hand throttle an u can hold it down with the palm of your hand sick it's mostly for st bikes since u got the hand throttle just something you might not Wana look into but awesome video man keep that 500 forever ive been offered 10gs for mine even the 250 there gettin harder to find yr by yr takecare man

[@jonathanbadham3733]

u want the special carb intended for a quadracer there rare to come by it has 4 mainjet inlets

[@Kyle_gallegher]

Those are even finickier. Stick with an airstriker or 38 mikuni

[@timfogle7337]

I wish you had more room.... I always like to a plug chop. But awsome vid guys👍👍

[@jameskay3310]

That was my first 4 wheeler 89 quad racer 500cc

[@reminoel483]

Find a good reed valve for that thing it will act WAY better down low. Love the content BTW

[@connormacquarrie1831]

2 stroke rippppppa

[@leopfeffer2419]

When the carb gets hot the threaded holes expand, and cross threading becomes a greater risk.

[@travishaynes9682]

Nice ! Maybe you should put your Zilla up against Mr. Nasty s Banshee !!