These RTX 5090 & 5080 Leaks Have Me WORRIED

[@tak2ulata]

There is no need to worry about some shit you don’t have to buy

[@pin00ch]

This is the way.

[@sinnermac6338]

so true

[@acidwizard6528]

For real. Nvidia's pricing has gone out of control. I can afford any of their GPUs but I refuse to support their price gouging.

[@r.m8146]

Many peole want the best hardware

[@tak2ulata]

@ many people are dumb

[@ek274]

$1500+ for a card with 16 gb vram is wild af

[@GG-cn6es]

If they increase vram the game developers will get even lazier and then we'll need a 32gb card to play anything...

[@Chimonya]

@@GG-cn6es Who cares, vram is like $7 a GB. What's another $50 -$100 of vram on a $1,500 card?

[@EggEnjoyer]

@@ChimonyaA fool and his money are easily parted. Nice to know you’re primed to be nickled and dimed

[@TheRealDlo]

That you DONT need to buy

[@twistedelegance_]

Can't even buy 4070 at that price in Europe

[@BeatmasterAC]

just wait until Nvidia says that DLSS4 and Neural Texture rendering is only avaiable / supported by the RTX5000 series, even tho that the RTX4000 series could use / benefit from them as well, at least partially but Nvidia won't support it because they want people to buy their new GPU Gen. Then AMD comes with "We got you, FSR4 will be supported by the RTX4000 series."

[@mgguner]

fsr4 will be closer in tech to dlss3 rather than 3

[@arenzricodexd4409]

FSR 4 most likely exclusive to radeon. and don't be surprise if even RDNA 3 are not going to work with it.

[@fffrrraannkk]

It's really gonna suck if Nvidia gets in the habit of introducing a new feature locked to the current gen cards every time they release a new generation. If it happens this time, it's gonna happen for the 60 series too. What a pain it will turn into for developers who are going to be pressured to add all this new tech for both AMD and Nvidia, plus whatever Intel comes up with. Maybe not right now, but give it 2 or 3 more generations.

[@astrea555]

any card can do neural rendering clearly yes, if they try to claim this everyone knows it's bs.

[@mesi0r]

this is more than sure that they wont make it work on previous cards :D they are greedy mf'ers

[@thenic123]

For those that can be at the CES 2025 Nvidia keynote. When the Leather Jacket Man unveils the 5080 16GB, boo the $h** out of it and say, "We want 24GB! We want 24GB!"

[@mitsuhh]

That's childish

[@LivingParable693]

​​@mitsuhh That's necessary lol, that's the only place where our voices will be heard. That's also where it will hit jensen the hardest. What makes you think being an Internet warrior would hurt jensen, we been doing that since 20 series and look at where it got us

[@mitsuhh]

@@LivingParable693 If you wanna make a fool of yourself on the Internet, go ahead

[@DaywonDynasty444]

@@mitsuhhno tf it’s not 😂

[@DaywonDynasty444]

@@mitsuhhplease shut up you’re adding no value to the thread 😂

[@TheVoiceOfReason]

The huge disparity in specs between the 5080 and 5090, tells me that the 5090 is going to be monumentally expensive. I mean, it will shock all of us. Just wait and see.

[@GG-cn6es]

Whaling ships don't chase fish.

[@scottlucidi6476]

Spot on. People thinking 2k are DREAMING. $3,500 to start. It wont hit 2k until 2028.

[@panjak323]

And 5080 is going to cost more than half of that. Since it's half the specs. ​@@scottlucidi6476

[@rangersmith4652]

DLSS4: stronger medicine to [sort of] treat increasingly severe cases of ray tracing disease.

[@broose5240]

people are getting it now. create a problem to solve,, then sell the fix

[@shrederman9838]

@@broose5240 If you don't like it get AMD.

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

@@shrederman9838 turn of RT or don´t play games with it.

[@DaywonDynasty444]

@@shrederman9838exactly like why come to a nvidia video to cry and whine. Lets me know how you handle life fr 😂

[@justhomas83]

3k for a graphics card no thanks

[@teanymonster5227]

nah 5k because it got leaked LOL believe whatever someone says? wait for the official reveal and hate it than my man. way healthier.

[@oneanother1]

People will buy it, its like a drug to some people.

[@freakshow1771]

@@oneanother1literally😂

[@SCOOBYGD]

​@@freakshow1771gaming is some ppl only hobby.

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

​@@oneanother1I need my fix.

[@PabloB888]

It seems that Nvidia has reached a node wall and cannot improve performance without increasing power consumption. Edit - I tried to reply to some of the comments, but for some strange reason YT keeps deleting everything. Commenting on YT is a waste of time.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

this affect everyone not just nvidia.

[@RiderOfKarma]

Yes, and SRAM can’t shrink any further. That’s why AMD has switched to using chiplet designs like in their CPU. The Radeon 7k series was the first line to use it. Hopefully they can do to Nvidia’s monopoly what they did to Intel’s CPU chokehold, and restore competitive pricing.

[@123TheCloop]

someone sees it, only way this will stop is through MCM chiplet designs for GPUs which are still some ways out.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

@@RiderOfKarma i doubt AMD can 'Ryzen' nvidia with MCM. at this point don't be surprise if nvidia even ahead of AMD in MCM tech. thing with nvidia is they did not always use bleeding edge tech just to claim they have one. they use it when it actually make sense and they able to make it work as it intended to be. just look at HBM. AMD was so determined to use it even if from economy perspective it is not really doable for consumer grade hardware. Vega for example being ruined because AMD cannot use 4 stack HBM2 at the time of it's released. when AMD release Radeon 7 it proves that Vega is bandwidth starve which limiting it's performance to 1080 only. with Radeon 7 it got the required bandwidth and able to match 1080Ti performance despite thing like CU numbers are exact the same as Vega 64. the sad thing about HBM is SK Hynix just lure AMD to fund development of HBM so they can out compete competing memory tech at the time (HMC) to be the one chosen by JEDEC. but once the standard being established SK Hynix openly said that they believe majority of their HBM will be sold to nvidia instead of AMD. and now they are nvidia no.1 supplier of HBM.

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

Good, hopefully devs will now focus on art design and gameplay and we can use our computers for the next 10 years without needing to upgrade.

[@frankvinti925]

If NVidia decides to raise the price of the 5080 too much compared to the 4080 super they will have exactly the same problem as with the MSRP of the 4080, it did not sell, in the end only the rich will buy the 5090 the majority will wait for something that has a more reasonable price.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

nvidia have other group of people willing to buy those expensive 5080 if gamer not willing to buy it. what happen with 40 series pretty much proves it. people said 4080 have poor sales because of it's $1200 price tag. that is not the case at all if you look at nvidia gaming revenue for the last 4 to 5 quarters.

[@paullasky6865]

NVIDIA nerfing the ram to keep looks upgrading

[@zyos11]

You don't have to wait, just buy red, I bought a second hand RX 6800 non XT for like $280 3 years ago, I was not planning on upgrading since that GPU(TUFF) will not fit the new PC, but I'm ok with sticking to my old PC in the meantime.

[@haukikannel]

No they have not! 4090 was too cheap! This time Nvidia will fix it! Just make 5090 $2600 to $3000 then 5080 will sell easily $1300! Not all van afford $2500 so 5080 at half the price will get customers!

[@paullasky6865]

@@haukikannel are u ok hun

[@zeriano8590]

everything is going according to nvdias plan

[@Ja_Schadenfreude]

* insert evil laugh *

[@nismo2070]

@@Ja_Schadenfreude You know it.

[@scottlucidi6476]

Our feeble gaming skills are no match for the power of the Green Side.

[@vvhitevvizard_]

Nvidia lost touch with reality

[@arenzricodexd4409]

more like consumer are not keeping up with reality

[@brugj03]

What is reality??

[@themodfather9382]

The reality is there's no more performance gains from process node shrinks. That's why Nvidia upscaling and RT exists. Also why power is up to 600 watts from 113 watts.

[@oneanother1]

@@arenzricodexd4409 what? Can you explain? Always blame the consumer for buying for nvidiia, so they can increase the price even more.

[@varios4883]

no, they just changed their target customer. Its not for gamers - its for professional use - mostly ai.

[@smoove7932]

Blame the scalpers and the people that bought the 4090 for 2200. Nvidia saw consumers paying 2200 and said why are scalpers making profit. if scalpers can get that much so can we.

[@truckermike8534]

I'm thinking I won't be a consumer for either card. Simply because the existence of Rolls Royce and Rolex doesn't compel my desire to buy either of them. I like efficiency and economy. A good product in any category, to me, ought to have these characteristics. Do I need a golden hammer to pound nails?

[@broose5240]

no but if you like to brag then......

[@andrewsolis2988]

That's bc neural rendering is going to be the VRAM scapegoat It is going to allow them to upscale textures allowing GPUs to use less VRAM. Another AI feature that bails Nvidia out of raster/VRAM. Then they charge you even more for this "feature". Let that sink in, they're telling you that you are getting less, give you a band aid then tell you they are "saving you" so give them more money 😂

[@broose5240]

oh just like ray traceing

[@andrewsolis2988]

@broose5240 Well I do like Ray tracing in most games. Since most games are adopting it, it isn't a gimmick now. Sadly, it tanks performance and these AI "features" are required to be playable

[@carlosnazario1170]

Yup create a problem and sell you a solution

[@Hull404]

in my opinion the 5080 will cost at least 1199$ without taxes and the 5090 at least 1999$ without taxes

[@johnboylan3832]

The operative point here is 'at least'. I have expected it since the release of the 4000 series.

[@CrazO9111]

More. 5080 ist listed for 1400$

[@TheRealDlo]

$1299 / $2099

[@Trikie77]

@@TheRealDlo i dont think Nvidia cares much for gamers anymore they have their AI stuff an how far can they push push the visuel ? not much more than what you see on 4090

[@TheRealDlo]

@@Trikie77 i dont disagree

[@BC-pl3df]

When AMD gets the blame for Nvidia’s high prices because of not being competitive enough, Nvidia is going to exploit that. The consumer, because of their own collective actions, have no power. So they are whining. Simple just don’t buy it but the 5090 will sell out and sell well. Then if you can’t afford it, Nvidia makes sure you know you are paying an inflated price for a compromised level of performance so you can feel it. You know you are inferior if you are forced to settle for an 5080 on the way down. It’s all psychology and power games. Just like there are no deals at the dollar store anymore for name brand products, you get whatever amount the brand decides that to you deserve to get for the dollar.

[@paullasky6865]

Get s 7900xtx for £750 and use it for years

[@mitsuhh]

4080 is better

[@elgamerbot99]

@@mitsuhh Yeah and a lot more expensive

[@mitsuhh]

@@elgamerbot99 No... they're similar price.

[@elgamerbot99]

@@mitsuhh 4080 Super: £1,160.67. He buy it for a price of £750, Literlly the 4080 only is better in RT, cause in Raw perfomance the 7900xtx is simply better...

[@mitsuhh]

@@elgamerbot99 I got 4080 in January 2024 for $930 brand new

[@CarnivoryHODL]

Has to be $1999 for 5090, $999 for 5080 for FE. Of course, AIBs will be higher. What I actually see happening: $2199 5090, $1199 5080 for FE. Don’t underestimate Nvidia’s ability to slightly piss off consumers w/ slightly higher prices Gen over Gen. What worries me: 4080/4090 are currently near sold out. Nothing to compare to on open market outside of used/open box.

[@JimBobm]

Rumor has it 5800 is $1699

[@CarnivoryHODL]

@ saw that, personally don’t believe in that rumor

[@123TheCloop]

@@CarnivoryHODL dont believe it?........ yet we literally have 4080s in the $1200+ range lmfao, last gen you could argue covid inflated the costs and scalpers, this time inflation rose thanks to ukraine crisis and everyone got slapped, they you have the US tariffs etc. at minimum reference 5080 is gunna be $1200-1300 with AIBs being in the $1400-1500 range

[@CarnivoryHODL]

@ that’s what I said, reference

[@Gg66226]

@@123TheCloop1200$ for 4080 didnt do well. So 999$ 4080 super came out. So nvidia go do 1499/1599$ for 5080 and nobody gonna buy it since u get 4090 for the price and nvidia gonna launch 5080 super for 1200$

[@03chrisv]

I'm interested in a 16GB 5070 Ti assuming it has a $799 MSRP like the 16GB 4070 Ti Super, but I'm worried with these new pricing leaks it's going to be $1,000 to $1,100.... Hard pass at those prices.

[@mikeramos91]

Expect a bump in price. And then another bump for scalpers/tariffs

[@acidwizard6528]

I wouldn't put it past Nvidia to try to charge $1,000 for a 70 class card.

[@CrazO9111]

Forget it, maybe 999$

[@haukikannel]

5070ti makes most Sense at $999 If 5080 is $1299! So same memory $300 cheaper!

[@TakaChan569]

Doesn't matter the 5090/5080 will sell out day 1, consumers are easy to fool into spending a ton.

[@salutations6370]

It’s all those bitcoin miners

[@DGibbsTV]

Nvidia are reminding me there is another company we can buy from called AMD

[@KeesHessels]

Nvidia is pushing them self out of the market: Raise the prices NVIDIA!!! RAISE THEM TO THE STARS!

[@mrcrunch8000]

The more I hear about the prices, the more grateful I am for the $400 3080ti listings and the eBay coupons that covered the tax during the couple weeks prior to the 40 series launch. It looks like I will be stuck with it for a while longer, just like the 1080ti before it. If anything, it seems like used 3080ti prices have gone up. I am seeing them at $500 and above now.

[@Q36BN]

4:09 The fact that 5090 is 512bit card tells me enough. No other Titan/90 class video card was this big. The only exception is Titan Volta which was built with HBM memory and it wasn't even a consumer card, but a Professional video card with other Volta cards like professional and ludicrously expensive Tesla/Quadro lineup. It's almost as if nvidia was kinda forced to make this card bigger and more power hungry, because otherwise it wouldn't be a big leap over 4090, and if AMDs chiplet design did not fail they could be in trouble with a smaller 384bit card.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

power consumption wise monolithic card have the advantage over MCM.

[@jonathonschott]

They made it 512 to feed it because they want to sell them to ai farms and bandwidth rules that roost. That the bus is that wide is more of a nothing moment, the eye opener is that there is no 384 die. That says a lot.

[@Q36BN]

@@jonathonschott AI farms can enjoy professional Blackwell with way more vram for large language model

[@jonathonschott]

@@Q36BN right....... But it's the same die just with more sm's enabled. That's why it's 512 wide is what I'm saying. Nvidia has always done things that way.

[@notalent7369]

I will wait till the announcement and if they really sell the 5080 for 1500 dollar and the 5090 for 2500 dollar, then I will get a used 4090.

[@simworld7780]

Problem is used 4090s are averaging ,$2000-$2300 now so you might as well spend an extra $200-$500 for new 5090, once again Nvidia wins the race. The cycle continues unless you go amd

[@maximus4468]

My guess is Nvidia listing this initial 5080 at $1,199 and the 5090 at $1,999. The real questions is, are gamers going to buy at these prices? I have the cash for both, but not interested in these high prices.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

Assuming the 5080 is a 30% uplift, it would be ridiculous if they increase the price back up by 20%. The value basically staying the same after 2 years which is pretty poor, not to mention it's still 16gb. That uplift would only make sense if it were remaining at $999. I've seen some people defending it by saying well it will perform like the 4090....so what what ? That's a 30% uplift, the last 2 generation have had 50% uplifts with increases to Vram. And one those generations had the exact same price with that uplift. Paying 20% more for 30% is lame. If it were 50% more and 24gb vram than yeah sure i can see it being $1,199. They want to give us less for more and some are falling for it. I just can't understand it lol. I'm personally more interested in the 9070xt, if they can pull off a 40% uplift from the 7800xt and remain at the same price that would actually be a decently exciting card and a 40% uplift with no price increase is perfectly reasonable. 2080 to the 3080 was a 50% uplift with no price increase and that's from one of the greediest companies on earth lol. We'll see Amd can pull it off, 50/50 on this one. Either way I'm not buying a 50 series if they increase the prices, they all look to have smaller uplifts then usual besides the 5090 and no way I'm paying that much just for better graphics lol I don't even use RT, if the 9070xt is a flop I might get an xtx second hand if Fsr 4 is compatible with it and wait it out for Udna or whatever they end up calling it

[@stangamer1151]

4080 is 50% faster than 3080 and it's MSRP was 70% higher. 4070 Ti is 40% faster than 3070 Ti and it's MSRP was 33% higher. 4070 is 20% faster than 3070 and it's MSRP was 20% higher. So what makes you think Nvidia will not do this again? Another exclusive software feature and voila - thousands of people are fighting to get their shiny new GPUs.

[@adamtajhassam9188]

IF I HAVE TO SETTLE FOR A 5080 IM JUMPING SHIP TO THE 24GB INTEL . Why bother w a 5080 at all.

[@t8destroyer138]

Been happening for years now I see no reason they would stop now people keep buying this shit

[@stevennocella5805]

Wll I'm coming from a 3070 ti so it probably like atleast 50% uplift

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@@stangamer1151 it wasn't always this way, other generations have had good uplifts with no price increas. the 2080 to 3080 was a 50% uplift with 0% increase in price....40 series were terrile, price increases all around with smaller uplifts, Nvidia upping the prices 2 generations in a row is going to put people off. Its put me right off, i would have paid $999 for the 5080 even with its smaller uplift because im coming from a 3080. But anything above that just isnt worth it for such a cut down card, the 5070ti could have been good but if the 5080 is going up, the 70ti will probably be at least $899 which is another waste of money. had the prices stayed the same i would have been happy with either card, now im more interested to see how the 9070xt turns out, nvidias pricing has put me off their cards, if amd can put out a card close to a 4080 performance level for around $499 that would be an decision to make. worst case scenario i just buy a second hand 4080 when they flood the market or an XTX if FSR 4 works with the 7000 cards too, really keen to get away from nvidia if they're going to increase prices every generation which is what will happen if they upping the prices and people keep buying

[@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re]

If the 60 series can out perform my 3080, I'll just go with that option. The 4060ti can already run games at 1440p no issues. I think we need to tell gamers you don't need a 80 of 90 series for pure gaming. I think that's the mindset we need to change. The problem I see is that a lot of tech channels call anything below the 80 series budget, which in terms has a negative connotation for your average consumer that just wants to game.

[@notaras1985]

Yeah i hope 6080-90 will be less trashy, and will have more reasonable prices due to competitors

[@clst029]

the price will jump that for sure monople oblige

[@platty7047]

Keine Sorgen machen in ein paar Tagen eine kaufen und sich erfreuen an der brutalen Leistung der Karten 😉

[@cemsengul16]

Well the 4090 leaks said it would be higher than 450 watts so I believe the 5090 won't use 600 watts.

[@michaelthompson9798]

I don’t thin’ we’re going to see or get much in the way of the RTX 50-series other than a not-so-surprising but surprising price increase 😱🤯which’ll offset any performance increase the 50-series has over the 40-series gpus imo 🤨

[@jouniosmala9921]

Here's a truth people don't like to hear. The price/perf improvements from 2000 to 2016 is almost entirely created by TSMC offering more transistors at same price and memory manufacturers offering higher frequency memory or more memory at similar price. That is what GPU makers rode, the architectural improvements gave mostly marginal improvements in price/perf. And if there was it was mostly because a generation right before had left a significant gap in its design which hampered its price/perf compared to process advances that they could fix. What actually sucks is cost of newer processes rising pretty close to as par with performance improvements. TSMC hasn't given improvements in fundamentals of price/perf. This all depends on pricing of GDDR7. But 5090 has a reason to cost 33% more than 4090, its just that much more silicon, in both the GPU and memory. But 5080 and below don't sound like more expensive design UNLESS the memory frequency improvement is increasing costs. Why should we care about Nvidia's costs. Well, they are probably going to slap same gross margin as they pretty much have done since 10 series. And they will offer people the performance they got out of whatever improvements there were available. And sometimes they will slap more silicon for people to pay more. 4080 is exception to the rule, it's price was chosen purely to get rid of 30 series stock, with 999 would have been the default price point for it if there wouldn't have been such a huge stock of 30 series Nvidia needed to sell.

[@nerine4188]

Yeah it's not like RTX 4090 costs nvidia 300$-400$ dollars to produce. It's not like they're selling it at 200-300% profit margin.

[@pctechloonie]

@@nerine4188 you would be surprised at how little the previous generations cost. This is nothing new. Why would NVIDIA reduce their gross margin to keep pricing stable.

[@pctechloonie]

100%. NVIDIA had to get rid of excess stock. Same issue with 20 series. But given there's no competition this time, I don't see NVIDIA bringing prices down again.

[@jouniosmala9921]

@@nerine4188 That's not a profit margin Nvidia's profit margin for geforce line up is about 20-25%. From manufacturing costs to consumer price. Step 1. Unit cost->Manufacturing costs. Step 2. Fixed costs-> R&D, marketing, software all the other operating costs than manufacturing. Step 3. Nvidia profit. Steps 4->6 Unit costs, fixed costs, and profits for board partners. 7->9 distributors 12->15 stores. Basically there are 4 companies which all need money to operate, which and contribute to a fact that you get the card with direct costs its part in the value chain, and costs marketing and everything else and profit. Oh. And each step the margins which the price is multiplied to get reasonable margin for that part in the chain is multiplication of previous part in the chain. And typically the fixed costs are bigger than manufacturing costs in semiconductor space. And thus illusion of very large profits because majority of costs are not counted. And then ignoring that there are multiple companies whose costs and profits are multiplied based on what price semiconductor maker sells its stuff to their partners.

[@nerine4188]

​@@jouniosmala9921 So I guess Intell sells battlemage at the loss since adding all the costs you mention surely they must be losing like 500-700$ per card.

[@kd8opi]

I had a 1080 gtx, 9th gen i9 machine. Had it for 5 years. No “need” to bump it until now, and really I’m just giving my home built 9th gen I9 machine a refresh. It’s PCIE 3 (not even 4) with a standard RTX 4070 12gb, I just plugged in. Getting 2-3x frame rates; and I can more easily game at 1440, the 1080 wasn’t bad at 1440 though, and even 4K for slow titles no problem. The point is that aside from KZbinrs and people who almost fetishize the latest technology, there’s no bang for your buck upgrading your CPU or GPU every generation. Or even every 2-3 generations. My 6 year old I9 is easily fast enough for modern games, and it will be years until my CPU is even challenged in terms of throughput. For $100, I even upgraded its ddr4 ram from 16 to 64GB. Overkill, but it was so cheap. Game makers want their games to be available to the masses, there’s no money in making them require new technology. Look at Baldurs Gate 3. The recommended specs (not the minimum specs) are a 8th gen intel I5, and a 6 year old 2060 super. Thats’ 6-7 year old tec. This is a game that came out in 2023 to massive acclaim. The minimum specs are even more laughable, a 5th gen i5, and a gtx 970. That’s TEN YEAR OLD TEC. So to the masses that play pc games I say this : don’t worry. You don’t need a $1500 card to play modern games. Don’t worry about Nvidia, they’re an AI company now that makes graphics cards. It’s a solid bet if you have an average PC built within the last 6 years you can play modern games on it now or with an upgrade to a sub-$200 gpu (3050/4050, or an AMD 6600, now selling for $189 with 8gb of vram). Turn the settings down a bit, you won’t even notice or care, and have fun.

[@juanford55]

Knowing the inevitable... I only hope the insane prices only affects on GPUs where Nvidia doesnt have competition(5080 and above), if not... We are screwed hoping AMD releases something decent enough. And even if 5060, 5060 Ti and 5070 prices arent that different compared to last generation im pretty sure the specs will be bad at launch.

[@Pwnag3Inc]

5080 MIGHT be better than the 4090 if the leaked specs are true. I will not be upgrading and it is primarily because there are no games worth upgrading for.

[@Tubes78]

Friends of mine going to hang on to their 6800’s and 3080’s for a while longer.

[@AnthonyPompa]

Nvidia is literally the Apple of GPUs. Small hardware upgrades only sold by software.

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

It´s too early. In each and every generation, both manufacturers tend to overpromise in order to overhype the products - and then mostly underdeliver.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

I cant wait for the 5090 and the benchmarks.

[@10GreenDragon10]

Definitely a refresh card, same vrm, more power hungry etc, you don't need more fps in games same as you don't need more than 75Hz in a monitor, going from 120Hz to 160Hz display is a waste of money, pretty much this represents what 40 to 50 series really is.

[@rndm-guy-123]

There are 3 things in this universe that will never change. The gravitational constant, speed of light, and NVIDIA fleecing their customers.

[@ThisGuy-kk1lp]

There’s no point on speculating on prices we’re just a few short days away. But my guess the 5090 is between $1800 and $2200 for the founders edition. With Asus releasing something near $2599 on the high end. And for people complaining that the prices are too high. I remember when video cards were first coming out and you would pay $3000 for some thing that nowadays couldn’t even drive your display. The 4090 and the 5090 are not targeted towards gamers. Inflation is at all-time high compare the prices of the video cards from 2016 it’s roughly $315 every nine years for every thousand dollars. So if the video card is $2000 the equivalent amount in 2016 would be $1370.

[@Haarba1]

Why bother with reducing power draw? who cares? Just buy 1000W PSU and forget about it, we wont pretend than ppl who buy xx90 level cards dont have money on a good PSU, right? Only real reason to care about power is if you dont have money to upgrade PSU, cool stories about lifespan are for ppl who know nothing about hardware, assuming your GPU is not broken you wont care if it works for 10 years with full power or 11-12 years with less power.

[@supreme5998]

It’s a problem for people who build ITX. Full sized towers are getting less popular and PCs are getting smaller and smaller. There’s not that many power supplies in the smaller segments right now.

[@HardwareAccent]

I’ve thought it makes no difference to me but I’ve learned thanks to recent videos that I prefer seeing the person speaking. Thank you for yet another good content.

[@purpleduggy7680]

Hoping for a new full AI frame generation standard for games from Nvidia, with zero rendering, and perhaps with some backwards compatibility for older games.

[@kingmana360]

If you got a 40 series card no need for a 50 series card.

[@SJkopa]

Breaking News >> Only the 50 series supports DLSS4.0...

[@roki977]

I hope 50 series will be 20% more expensive than 40 series with 5090 for 2500$. More expensive they are better they will sell. Nvidia marketing is to strong..

[@CPTFLEX]

The 5090 would have to blow my 4090 out of the atmosphere for me to get one. We will see.

[@RiderOfKarma]

Yeah it does seem the same but they opened up the bus width and pump it full of more wattage to squeeze more performance. I’d be worried about stability, longevity with that amount of heat on an overpacked pcb.

[@johnmann7o2]

Sony or Microsoft doesn’t even increase in price that much every console iteration, why is Nvidia being so greedy? 5080 for $1500 is crazy, it’s the same price/performance as the 4090. Imagine if Sony released the PS6 with similar hardware as ps5 for $500. But Sony knows better than to scalp its loyal customers. Corporate greed.

[@robertorossi4361]

You can, of course, achieve a performance boost simply by adding transistors, although I'm pretty sure it's not just a beefed-up 4000-series.

[@mcmilliftw1166]

I think that they’re going with the Apple approach to marketing release incremental improvements on a yearly or every other year sell it at a premium to try and keep market dominance right now. The way things are going Intel and AMD really need to step up their game and be a real competitor in the market. This monopoly bullshit is getting old.

[@resistancerobert]

They did say 5090 and 5080 were for professional so only leaves 5070s and 5060s for gamers.

[@DarkSoul45456]

is the 4090 for professional too only or gaming nice words bro

[@resistancerobert]

@DarkSoul45456 The Rtx 4090 for gaming as well there not alot people willing to drop that kinda money for graphics card. The Rtx 5090 might cost $2500. I wouldn't tell anybody not to buy one. it there money spend it how they like.

[@SharpAD]

what does for proffesionals exactly means? Are they gonna have similar gaming perfomance to 4000 series?

[@NGC008]

Who said?

[@resistancerobert]

Professionals would be mainly 3D art, content creators, AI and so on but they be great for gaming and should be better than 40 series.

[@vaendryl]

only reason 5090 really interests me even a bit is that is has enough Vram to run a semi-decent LLM locally. though if there was a card that had a lot more Vram (128GB pls) but with a bit less horsepower for a similar price I'd like that a lot more.

[@nekron75]

RTX 5090 is going to be extremely fast and at the very least 2000$, more likely 2400$. Out of reach for many. Many will go for the 5080 which would be the next "affordable", and cost at least 1200$, more likely 1400$. The 4080 Ti/super will be a seriously cut down version of the 5090 chip with 24GB of ram and be at around 1800$. My guess.

[@venataciamoon2789]

I've been worried since I bought a 2070 super at £500 in 2019. Most I ever payed for a graphics card and now it will cost a body part or two.

[@Acesbomb]

Really just pick up a console at this stage. Ridiculous pricing if true.

[@Mampfie]

i never paid more than 500 for a GPU and it works to this day and will continue that way

[@Kinslayu]

I think it's too early to tell without seeing the new tech, we'll find out in a couple days

[@ihadlunch8575]

So would a 850 Watt PSU w/ a 9800x3d be enough to power this card?

[@evakautz5459]

Yea but , if you use liquid system you need 1000w

[@FixForeGamers]

Cpu use 120 W 600 w GPU and motherboard needs 20-100 wats. So its possible! 5% less power on your GPU and your a save. If you go fore a Asus MSI look first fore there power draw the are mostly more power hungry!

[@ZackSNetwork]

Why 850w? If your buying a 5080 or 5090 go with a 1000w PSU.

[@ihadlunch8575]

@@ZackSNetwork I already have the 850w no reason to spend more money than necessary

[@ihadlunch8575]

@evakautz5459 no I'm using a peerless assassin 120 to cool the cpu. It actually does a really good job at it.

[@mattirealm]

Nvidia is a majorly dishonest company. I realize that the early "leaks" had this product on 3nm TSMC, but I also thought that Nvidia itself said it was going to be on 3nm TSMC?! I think you are probably correct that Blackwell is not going to be "all that" and it surely isn't going to be moving the GPU industry forward as a whole.

[@xlightfootx]

Im not worried, just not buying a overpriced gpu.

[@Serandi1987]

The 5090 won't be that much faster than the 4090 and the 5080 not at all😵‍💫

[@troyphillips6481]

The way is I see it for an fps increase at all settings maxed out if it's like an average of 30-40 fps better for an increase 800 plus dollars over the prior 80 series it is objectively not worth it. Unless you can for afford the 90' series it's really not worth it period.

[@yubrandomain]

… hmmm. AMD about to stomp the market? Love my 7800X3D. I want to see what AMD brings to the table next!

[@123TheCloop]

5080 @ 360w but 5090 which in terms of "leaked" specs is all but 2x to the 5080 is only 575w, sounds like 5090 got hard limited thanks to the 12pin connector. no clue how AIBs are gunna skirt around the hard power limit of the 12pin connector when these are rated for 600w max, so unless they also pull from the PCIE slot which I swear this isnt a thing on the 4080/4090 because of how the 12pin is designed to have "feedback" in regards to power draw. Either way, AIB models might literally offer nothing tangible over reference because of this power constraint or they go duel 12 pin like some rumours floated around a few months back

[@Frozoken]

That's always how the 90 worked mate. 3060 ti with 45% of the sm's of the 3090 has 60% of the power limit so then just raising the power limit by 100w and actually not underclocking the 21gbps memory on the card gave them 10% higher performance with the 3090ti

[@wombatillo]

575 Watts? LOL. My room would turn into a sauna.

[@evakautz5459]

What worries me much is not the 50 series , the 60 and 70 series worries me too MUCH . Think about it

[@Maltebyte2]

yeah like imagine the 5070 costing around 1100$ !.......

[@MsGhoulz]

The future of PCs will soon involve PSUs that were meant to power entire cities.

[@UnknownMoses]

I don’t think the 50 series will be much but i do think the next release will be

[@mindinfinity3714]

Fellow Canadian here, keep up the good content.

[@jumperkai]

Gonna buy the 5090 anyways, so sad that AMD can't compete at that level, we need better competition at that market

[@apicomplexa305]

Maybe if amd sells his gpus at lower prices we can talk about something but no...they want to sell shiiit gpus at the higher price without a good sofware to validate the price and no fsr it's not a good software to fight dlss .

[@vkin6us897]

It is a "fake" 4080 (...256bits?) and can be determined by the distance between it and the 4090

[@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami]

I don't know why but the leaked cooler gives me the thought Nvidia will be using liquid metal probably?!

[@davidholder2100]

Until the cards are out and we can see what is real and not rumors. No reason for concern.

[@skoggiehoggins]

whats wrong with gaming or a used RTX 3080?

[@ZackSNetwork]

Low VRAM

[@stephenhood2948]

Nothing, for now. The VRAM will become a bottleneck at some point, on some games it is already. Stay away from VRAM hungry games or be prepared to lower settings and deal with some stutters and it will be fine.

[@muaddib7356]

NOPE, not gonna happen...I have kids to put through college, so dropping $1000+ on a graphics card is a NO-GO! Guess I'll be sticking with AMD or hopefully some upcoming, upscale Intel ARC cards.

[@zGunBLADEz]

remember the 4090 4x faster bs? Pepperidge farm remembers

[@billclay2701]

They have no competition. Lucky they don't charge even more for these silly cards.

[@Hankercheif]

5090, 9800x, 64gb dominator ram, custom watercooled - gpu and cpu... incoming!!!

[@Chris-ih4hj]

I got 980-1080ti-2080ti-3090- 4090 just give the 5090 it’s meant for my hands

[@sir1junior]

Just buy a AMD GPU this generation, trust me it won't kill you bruh 😂

[@_godsl4yer_]

Coasting generation? The 5090 is looking like it's going to be another generational leap similar to the 3090->4090.

[@k.23_02]

Yes but every card underneath the 5090 is looking like they're not going to be very impressive uplifts and that's the cards that most people will actually be getting

[@_godsl4yer_]

@k.23_02 that's true but we don't know how all of this contextualises to the supposed improvements in ray tracing and DLSS. Honestly it is looking a bit sad especially since AMD seemingly have nothing? But maybe we'll all be surprised. Can't say I am not excited for DLSS 4. Frame generation was amazing in my experience.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

Yes but look at all the other cards, you pick the one card that's out of most peoples reach lol. That's too much for a gpu imo and all of the cards underneath it are anorexic on specs lol. Looking at 20% uplifts for most cards most likely. Maybe 30% at best on the upper end ( not including 5090 )

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@k.23_02 the mobile gen seems to be a massive leap, not the desktops ones though sadly except the 5090

[@wes89]

I'm lost as to what games people are playing. Whos asking for these new cards?

[@rattlehead999]

I'm pretty sure that if you clock the 5090 and 5080 about 10% lower than they will be and undervolted they'd consume 65-70% of what they would stock. The problem is that these companies are clocking them to the moon, way beyond the sweet spot on the F/V efficiency curve, to top charts, because sadly that's what sells the card to the average consumer.

[@PabloB888]

My experience with UV is not so great. I tried UV my RTX4080S and I saw 50-70W less power consumption, but my performance was slower by 3-5fps even at the same GPU core frequency. What's more some games like Metro Exodus consumed the same amount of power at 4K (310-315W) even with UV. Only power limiting worked for me in this game, but when I limited my card to 250W max, my fps droped from 85fps down to 63fps at 4K.

[@rattlehead999]

@@PabloB888 3-5fps is nothing that's likely less than a 3% drop. Also you need to drop the clock speeds a little and then undervolt, not just undervolt. Power limiting is not the same as undervolting, not even close, it's much worse.

[@mesicek7]

Which has to do with silicon lottery. Not every card can run at lower voltage due to it. We've already seen this with the AMD cards 12 years ago - Tahiti,Hawaii arch.

[@rattlehead999]

@@mesicek7 Tahiti and Hawaii were already clocked very low, back then overclocking was the meta, now it's undervolting. Past cards are not an indication of current or future ones. And again you need to reduce clock speeds by 5-10% before undervolting.

[@mesicek7]

@@rattlehead999 They were overvolted - just go look up the power consumptions when under peak load. They were the most power hungry gpu's when they were released. When BTC miners were starting to buy them in bulk they were UV them like crazy.

[@Shuttterbugg]

Duh if the 5080 is 1500 bucks what do u think a card that is twice as powerful card...2500 at least

[@KovacsAU_TTV]

i went and snapped up the last 4070 Ti Super left anywhere in my area. Im giving the 50 series a hard miss

[@Daniele858585]

Kaspa pay for 5009, and Kaspa was maid by the old 3090, so that's okay, circle will go on

[@me1134]

Yes the 1st 512bit bus since the 1080 and likely the biggest year over year gain in over a decade and its a coasting generation lol

[@strvy]

Imo the prices are not bad. For me at least I guess.

[@Killswitch1411]

Look forward to seeing the Nvidia stock tank.

[@vangoghoff5521]

When AI starts designing its upgrades in someones disused garage and has no use for Nvidia, those Nvidia suits are gonna wish that they didnt poo poo the gamers! ;)

[@arenzricodexd4409]

gaming hardware market itself is a poo.

[@thechurchofsupersampling]

575 will be Max boosted power target

[@robertbslee4209]

No need to worry, Nvidia doesnt have a rival

[@ddzang]

Worried about what? Not as if you will ever need one. Your current 3070 is fine.

[@LowsHand]

I blacklistet Nvidia since the RTX3xxx-series and they make it now to easy to let them on it...

[@WanderfalkeAT]

So Nvidias Implementations are the Best we have? But they aren't perfect? FSR is lacking that far behind because they try to come close to do it with Software and lack behind totally. And Xe² is dead on arrival, if people don't buy from Intel anymore. Everyone will buy Nvidia if they can afford it. PC Masterrace! AMD should stick with their X3D CPU's because they really rock! And if you ask why Nvidia went so expensive, you need to see where we are right now with ALL PRICES compaired to 10 years ago. And those TSMC Chips cost lotsa money! And then wait for the TAX uplift in 2025! The only thing that will narrow their 50 series down a bit will be the Scalpers and the Availability in other regions than the US. I know at least 5 people personally who say - 5090 or nothing. And the others wait what DLSS 4 and the new RT cores bring to switch to a 5080 or even 5070Ti! You can't sell a Mercedes Driver a VW!

[@BodybuildingSteve]

not gonna happen, same as mtx people saying well stop buying them and they will stop but internet doesnt reflect reality, gamers buy mtx and they buy overpriced gpus, 5090 will sent out instantly