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[@HierophantX]

My pawn will Maelstrom a single box in a cave just to get the rotten grapes inside

[@anders8461]

Pawns are secretly sadists

[@sownheard]

W pawn

[@morginstjarna]

sure showed that box

[@Cyberdeathcore]

Even wild animals 😂

[@Tory-JJ]

"now watch what I do your wife's box"

[@EnraiChannel]

While maelstorm looks better in dd2 I think the meteor was so much cooler in ddda. The little twinkles when your meteors enter the atmosphere is such a nice touch.

[@posterpaster1980]

bro facing down to the earth when casting in dd2 of course you're not gonna see it

[@javiercampos4476]

Jajajaja this guy...

[@joeyjoe694]

you can see the meteors in dd2 in the sky as well

[@billjones642]

u mean that one aspect, the twinkles, looks better in ddda. everything else about it, the debris, the explosions, looks way better in dd2.

[@delacroixii]

Just say you are blind

[@CarterKane7175]

Good visual upgrade but I do like just how fast the meteors come in in Dark Arisen. Them things zoomin

[@pelosini8758]

I wish there was a mod to make it fast like it is in DA

[@wetteryan]

Footage wasn't Dark Arisen. Wasn't even Dragon's Dogma. It was Dragon's Dogma Online. The MMO spin off that didn't get a western release.

[@CarterKane7175]

​@@wetteryanWhat? DD Online had a completely different HUD, damage numbers on attacks, levels on enemies, etc. The HUD here is identical to Dark Arisen(which is essentially the same as base game for the purpose of this discussion)

[@_EldenRing_]

@@wetteryan It is DDDA, near Cassardis.

[@rcane6842]

​@@wetteryanyou high, blud?

[@skmkr5222]

They removed Gicel tho. Was the most fun spell to use for me. Frigor might be better than before but no comparison to how epic Gicel was.

[@BanHan]

Gicel was my favorite sorc spell in the first game. Though I miss it, I do think Frigor is a worthy replacement/change.

[@kyero8724]

think they changed it because it would completely fuck with CPU as DD2 already does.

[@nikolas4786]

​@@kyero8724nah, gicel would be the least gpu demanding spell

[@pwnomega4562]

​@@kyero8724 sounds like an issue with optimization (skill issue) on the dev's part.

[@kyero8724]

@pwnomega4562 very likely is or overestimating it on a engine that never did open world

[@Rain1]

Too bad they removed so many spells. I also wish that you could vary your cast time for meteor like you could in the first one so that you could only cast a couple of them instead of waiting the entire animation Also you can't manually cast a spell at a location, you have to be aiming at something. Like if I want to cast at the middle of a group of enemies I can't now I have to pick one of them

[@GabrielPassarelliG]

And you have little control over where you are targeting. No more the days of casting Maelstrom from the distance before the group of enemies started attacking you. Also, now Maelstrom doesn't pull targets from the outer range, so if the enemies get slightly out during the time you start spinning your staff until the spell lands, they are safe and you wasted all that time for nothing.

[@IHMyself]

​@@GabrielPassarelliGOh wow, that sucks...

[@Kumatanchii]

Honestly getting instagibbed by bandit mages in BBI who used the spell was most likely the source of that change lol. BBI consisted of small condensed spaces which made getting away from the sucktion a nightmare though too so who knows.

[@Rain1]

@@IHMyself lol

[@Rain1]

@@GabrielPassarelliG yeah I feel like they removed a lot of the range on it

[@sweetbrown89]

They really should’ve made Warfarer the class everyone ends up as (it’s called “Arisen” in Japanese) Allow everyone to pick 2 vocations they have maxed out and have 3 skills for each with Rearmament switching between them So the old Strider would just be a Warfarer using Thief + Archer

[@TheDeadmanstrolling]

I miss Mystic Knight, I ended up going full cope mode with Warfarer using Mace+Shield and Archstaff, using Augural Flare like Grand Cannon

[@1Dark.Paradise.Lost1]

There is a mod for that

[@tamaraadinolfi1052]

I ended up basically running a strider build with warfairer through to the end.

[@Kat1kafka]

A bit disappointed with what they did to the sorcerer, I was kinda hoping they'd add in a new big spell like a thunderstorm or a flaming maelstrom,and they took out my favorite spells brontide(lighting whip) and fulmination,I hope they'll bring these two back in future dlc

[@SirZubo]

Disappear or disappointed? 💀

[@h3llofademon]

Archer was also ruined with the usable arrows made into skills which can occupy one of the 4 skill slots we have..

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

@@h3llofademon Honestly, as a Ranger main shooting ten explosives arrows at once in DDDA, I can confidently say that the nerf was much needed. Buying hundreds of explosive arrows is akin to paying Yojimbo in FFX to kill any enemy including the super boss.

[@yourfriendtoad]

MIASMA! 😭EXEQUY! 😭 GRAND GICELLLLL Huhuuuuhh 😭

[@user-ug3pt5rl3k]

@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 As a ranger player, gotta agree, especially since how strong explosive shot still is. As a ranger and archer primary in DD1 the thing that mattered to me the most was the kickboxing stuff to achieve the fantasy of a highly acrobatic archer rather then only stand stationary and fire like a generic dragon age game.

[@CandyAmble]

i'm using mods on DDDA and I gotta say that the magick experience is better here. I'm just surprised that a game made 10+ years later is a sidegrade

[@cannedsquasher5923]

Modders have always improved games better than the devs themselves. Give it time

[@dorianrobinette9712]

The magic feels a lot better in 2, but the variety in spells, or lack there of is unfortunate.

[@hipcheckboiii1603]

​​@@cannedsquasher5923 the only mods for DD1 are graphics and a cheat mod. The engine is so bad there's no gameplay mods to improve the actual gameplay. It's just legitimately just as good and better in other aspects as the sequel.

[@georgetrentos2094]

@@hipcheckboiii1603 Wrong! There are tons of DD2 gameplay overhaul mods to change how the vocations play (e.g 8 skills instead of 4, unique skillsets per weapon for Warfarer, better levitate, mixing movesets across vocations, etc.)There's an incredible Spell Maker mod to create your own spells, an Enemy Randomizer mod to change the enemy variety and sizes of creatures, and true difficulty mods for NG+/endgame which change the stats, attack behaviours and abilities of enemies. Amazing mods are being released and it's barely been out for a month.

[@soxar64]

@@hipcheckboiii1603 there are gameplay mods for the first one though, like the one allowing warrior to use 6 skills or the one that added an unarmed vocation

[@DaSaint79]

NGL, this actually makes me wanna play DDA...

[@th0rrz]

If you haven't, you should. It's a fantastic game that holds up to this day. There's much to still appreciate.

[@DMRosso]

Masterworks all, you can't go wrong!

[@Samurai_Stoner]

I've learned of beasts

[@ncshuriken]

@@Samurai_Stoner SOAKED to the bone!

[@thejosh0100]

Disappointed that they cut out your second set of skills

[@vee7514]

I keep seeing this. Most of second set of skills were moved to being combos instead of button presses. So they’re still there, you just activate them differently.

[@robertrainford6754]

@@vee7514they could of done that without reducing the skills. Stop coming up for excuses for Capcom’s but making a true sequel.

[@josephg.1.130]

​@@robertrainford6754 how is this an excuse?

[@Aliens1337]

@@robertrainford6754 skill issues.

[@fzhs7030]

​@@vee7514bro for real, people just want to complain, DD2 is an upgrade in pretty much every way, we're really only missing a bitterback isle like mode

[@BrotherYarmoth]

This video has convinced me that I need a BG3 battle music replacer mod for Dragons Dogma

[@derago-dev]

You can see some tech upgrades, like the meteor tails not disapearing or stoping when they touch the ground, or the twisters looking less solid.

[@Bananercat]

For some reason it felt like the upgrade to sorcerer in Dd2 isn't impactful at all, just a few new spells which doesn't do much damage and just the maelstrom. I still ended up using high levin and Frigor anyways

[@Fairy-Uvinq]

Try augural flare... lol

[@ExcessumGaming]

So true. Problem was that even if you wanted to use other spells you did not have enough slots to use them

[@triggerhxppy]

@@Fairy-Uvinq augural flare + hagol delete everything save for golems

[@Fairy-Uvinq]

@@triggerhxppy its incredible lol. That spell is insane

[@ButterscotchPenguin]

@@ExcessumGamingI kninda disagree I feel with how common camsites are I feel a lot more open to trying new arufd and experimenting, especially since theres lots of great spells and they’re well balanced (fir the most part) so there isn’t a stale meta on what to use.

[@owainthetrueexalt6723]

Ah, yes. The Megumin build.

[@BerryMunchify]

expuwlowsion!

[@SuperUnnamedplayer]

The Sorcerer feels hella mid compared to other vocations in DD2, or even compared to the Sorcerer in DD1. You get 12 skills in total, 4 of which are shared with the mage and 2 are locked behind long questlines. Then there's the lack of any interesting and involved game mechanic like the other vocations have, no unique blocking or dodging or timing your hits. Nope, you get an ability to cast faster and regen stamina. Nice. I like standing in place and pressing 3 buttons. And the new spells aren't even cool, just some run-of-the-mill elemental attacks, with the exception of the flare, which is entirely busted. I'm not even mad, just disappointed.

[@Rain1]

I agree, although yeah technically the sorcerer was kind of like this in the first game too because this is the nature of most mage casting focused classes. Still I wish they could have done more with it and not removed spells. (And vocations, mystic Knight)

[@qwertzu1195]

sorcerer is so mid, shakes head

[@EnraiChannel]

It's still strong. Augural flare is easily the strongest attack in the game, though it needs a bit of a setup. Very good for wayfarer combos to just have archestaff just to put it up before attacking with something fast. But I feel you, man.

[@lhenio1845]

Huuu i dont think so i played with sorcerer and the game was so easy like the dragon didnt had a chance to kill any of my pawns it tooked me like 3 mins or less to kill him..

[@SuperUnnamedplayer]

@@lhenio1845 the strength isn't even the issue. I know that you can nuke enemies easily as the sorcerer, it's just how it feels to play it.

[@raedjoobeur3864]

The sheathe button should've been a second skill set button. 4 skills per class makes the game less fun.

[@briancaples5614]

They could have even done like the witcher 3's alternate control scheme and made a tab of lb/r1 a skill in itself. 4 skills is very limiting.

[@BladeSerph]

Just to further add, when you got games like Final Fantasy 16 having a rather creative way to have multiple skill sets by being also able to assign a Eikon to each one despite only having 2 skills per, you end up with a whooping 6, plus 3 more with the eikon special gimmick or 3 sets of skills which can be swapped quickly in-between to allow DMC level of combat. Just another reason i wont be picking up this game because i already have the `controller gameplay `memory hot-swapping distance` as i would call it (aka you forget the controls are mapped differently) when it comes to Final fantasy 7 rebirth and grand blue fantasy relink where how they have the controls mapped tends to jar me a smidge in some ends. Even if i could remap the controls with some of them. Anyway, i find the first one definitely looks more good where the camera shake feels more wow and its got the camera better zoomed out so you can really see the impact of the spell. While it kind of looks like the latter either looks roughly the same or more static, such as the tornado in DraDog2 feels a smidge more static on ends.@@briancaples5614

[@obwolf]

Facts everytime I bring this up people mistake the statement as meaning I want more so I can be overpowered or something but in reality I just want access to a fun and diverse moveset.

[@BladeSerph]

@@obwolf yup, when a game can’t embrace the goofy, it’s no wonder why it has trouble being a fun game.

[@mountainkingterra1684]

If you played warrior in the first game you only hot access to 4 skills and same for daggers technically though you also had the bow that had its skills.

[@dragoon3219]

I actually really like how they made the fireballs shoot off like a mortar round in 2. Makes more sense then you just getting yoinking surprisingly tiny meteors that happen to be someplace close to the planet.

[@Aggrofool]

The early griffin gets the worm!

[@randomdude1882]

Wolfs hunt in packs ... oh wait!

[@WickedIsPopular]

So they say.

[@DreamskyDance]

Hearing BG3 battle sountrack with DD2 combat makes me realized that they kinda dropped the ball a bit on the music.

[@Rain1]

Yup. I don't remember a single song. Unlike the first game I can remember at least a couple

[@Lust4VAlENTiNE]

It’s funny because I’ve never heard the new soundtrack. I’ve only used the old one

[@djbootymeatlive1484]

@@Lust4VAlENTiNE i'll be honest with you, you've already heard the new soundtrack as you are now, it's pretty much nothing

[@Lust4VAlENTiNE]

@@djbootymeatlive1484 Ngl sometimes I just sit on the title screen so I can hear the classic Dark Arisen track. It's a shame I heard so much bad about the new soundtrack that I probably won't switch off the OG.

[@217adaptiveperspective]

I heard only the orchestral composer from DD1 returned and the other composers are new to composing or something like that

[@Ymyeh-lr8wj]

Maelstrom, the hiding in the corner then continously casting it to klll a boss move.

[@FukurouYGR]

nice sound effects, really adds to the experience

[@babaw]

DD1 art style is amazing, still holds up well, DD2 just got most of what was done and gave some HD treatment

[@sownheard]

Lightning Whip

[@djbootymeatlive1484]

was so fucking excited for this one : (

[@James-kv3ll]

Sorcerer doesn’t have a vocation action. They now also only have 4 skills. Oh and they have less skills to choose from. Wtf Capcom

[@bridgerbutler661]

They kinda did that to everyone

[@handofgod3278]

@@bridgerbutler661 Caster vocations were especially affected by that. All the other classes had pretty good skills integrated into the core skills while the same thing cant really be said about the casters, aside from Anodyne on Mage. The elemental diversity in your Skillset that you're effectively able to use is nowhere near as good as it used to be

[@yeet7521]

@@handofgod3278 casters have levitate

[@jojr6825]

Physical vocations have better core skills which a lot came from the equippable skills. Sorcerers and mages do not have these kind of upgrade. Who uses the normal and heavy attacks without flare. They need slots.

[@LGSN96]

Their vocation action is quickspell, but you're right on the other two points. Genuinely upsetting

[@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs]

Ngl the thing I got most hyped for when I heard of DD2 was making Megumin with the long casting time so I could do the _EX-PLOOOSION!!!!!_

[@ChilledMoo]

I like the dda because you can see the sparkles in the sky where the meteors are coming from which is awesome really makes you feel powerful idk if dd2 has that

[@mokadelic4037]

I noticed that maelstrom doesn't suck the enemies into its range anymore though, am I wrong?

[@cannedsquasher5923]

It does it just has a shorter range I think. Cause I've seen enemies get yoinked inside it's.

[@Grimnoire]

bro why did the original tornado look like a fucking wacky waving inflatable arm tube man?

[@KotBlini]

2012 spells were like barely restrained forces of nature while 2024 spells are just ugly particle effects.

[@trustmeits610pm2]

That is an incredible shot of Brontide. I never knew there flashes of light in the sky that herald the coming of the meteors from space.

[@wetteryan]

Brontide is the lightning whip. Not the meteors.

[@6siks]

*smallpp casually walks into screen at start of video* So this is how I start my morning

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

What about cascade battery mystic knight... i miss that shit.

[@DD-to5ig]

Lack of mystic knight saved me $70

[@morris_c0de463]

@@DD-to5ig magick spearhand is an awesome class with tons of tools... instead of mystic knight, which is buff your party and smack your own balls in front of the enemy

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

@@morris_c0de463 mystic spasmhand can never replace the shieldboss.

[@phlyphlo]

All these spells make for great screen captures.

[@Bran.man24]

I can't see shit whenever my pawn sets these spells off.

[@JoshuaPAMployee]

Visually 2 is impressive! Impactful goes to 1. Mortar shots in 2 vs METEOR in 1.

[@IAMLEGEND091]

What is the music at 0:17? the link in the description takes to a channel instead of actual music :(

[@Samurai_Stoner]

Playing the bg3 fight music... pretty cheeky 😂

[@MuhammadImran-yl6sz]

0:23, 1:05 Adding BG3 soundtrack really make the scene epic asf!!

[@solaireofastora5999]

Only thing i missed is not being able to use that one warrior move that increases damage when getting hit by enemies while charging but i get why they removed it. It's just an alternative to the currwnt charged slash so it doesnt add much other than charged slash with extra comditions

[@grotalolita5168]

Can’t wait to play

[@haukkru]

If i remember if you lucked out in the Dark Arisen dlc you could get rings to upgrade almost every spell too 👀 it turned them into 3rd tier magics

[@nakfyre9512]

The new meteor is better, but i really like how you can SEE the meteor coming down from space in the original.

[@pwnomega4562]

Ah yes, medieval air strikes...

[@umomo1947]

I dont know if there's high or grand versions in 2 but I assume maelstrom would looks bigger

[@asneakylawngnome5792]

I appreciate the FF16 music. Favorite Final Fantasy to come out since X.

[@khaipham1157]

May i know the bgm you used for DD2 clips?

[@jcaesar19871]

1:11 Oh hey, the new Twisters movie came out.

[@malik2978]

What are you and your pawn wearing in DD2?

[@J3ss4u]

give DD2 12 years and maybe, just maybe, it'll run as well as DD1 does.

[@mikev8080]

What was all of the music in this video? Was it all from DD2?

[@bonusclip5623]

I made fern from frieren journeys end in dd1 and the first i saw her use the meteors i was so shocked and saying damn chill

[@d4bad_bot]

Meteoron my beloved

[@bandedegroscon]

The camera is better in Dragon's dogma

[@kuroki4151]

As a Great Sword only Warrior, I really hated golems until my Sorc pawn learned Meteoron. I just wish she'd cast it faraway like I always teach her, cause for no reason she just starts casting it under the guy's legs.

[@TheGrimjackfromCPT]

The best memories of dragons dogma i had was using a lightning whip spell to kill my first Ogre gosh it was so much fun like DD is the only game where I'd pick a mage and say "its time to have some fun" cause the spells are so chaotic 🤣

[@Morrgan512]

Masterpiece

[@jeremymelendez8406]

I wish the tornado behaved the same. and can you still the twinkle in the sky with the meteors?

[@atomisten]

what is that epic music in the 2024 dogma? edit: it's from bg3 apparently.

[@zhilong]

There was a pawn called, “smallpp” from DD1 clip

[@lordhumungus3157]

The only thing this game needed was ragdolls, now its perfect

[@paoloibayan7055]

I feel there's something missing on some of the skill animations of the other class. Ryota Suzuki which is DD's battle designer is now working on Final Fantasy (Square Enix). I think it's one of the reasons.

[@tamaraadinolfi1052]

I think the animations look better in the first game. The graphics might be better now but the distortion effects make it harder to see enemies when you’ve casted I basically have to back off till they are done to resume attacking

[@Daddy2025HQ]

Definitely the new one😊

[@mrosskne]

what are you trying to communicate?

[@nicbahtin4774]

Wish the game run like the first too preformence wise

[@playboyy1903]

look cool, i love this game

[@InGodshands7]

The area of damage and impacts are better in DD2 for meteor storm. And cyclone looks way better in DD2

[@DiliosBR]

What role is this? Sorcerer?

[@ilyysm]

the hair doesnt go through all the way!

[@al5862]

What is the music for dragon Dogma 2 ?

[@neandertalstudios]

BG3 soundtrack - Twisted Force

[@RIPrisitas]

J’ai été déçu de voir qu’il n’avait pas ajouté les sorts de DON, celui qui permettait de mitrailler avec des pointes de glace était incroyable

[@Oceanworker]

I did feel they did sorc bit dirty due to promoting other classes

[@chriscabrera830]

I feel high bolide is better than meteoron in animation and execution, cause with bolide you don’t really have to aim it’ll auto aim, and the animation where you swing the staff feels more purposeful and the camera looking up to where the fireballs launch up to is just really cool.

[@DarkShadowC83]

Ngl DD1 looks sick for a 2012 game!

[@CeraphineLuna]

I miss gicel, the optimal Hydra decapitator

[@coaiemandushman1079]

we got some nice clothing for women in DD2, I approve.

[@herp_derpingson]

380mm barrage be like

[@MacOCable]

and both are good enough, isn't it?

[@CHRISTOS369]

Cool Video!

[@ru832k7ji3]

This looks so cool😮i watched dd2 boss fight clips and thought wow this game suck, but playing mage build seems so much fun in your video, i might be too harsh on dd2

[@leadpipejustice9253]

Both look good

[@neilbryllemalunes3837]

My most fave skill from DDDA Petrifaction is gone in DD2?

[@monnarkh]

wow, now that's a meteor shower! I had no idea Dragon's Dogma has such amazing spells. Probably because I never care to play mage. 😕

[@alexandresilveira6905]

Spell? Which spell? I think I got distracted....

[@Ziploc_Wonder]

Okay I love that the music artist's channel is linked... but what's the actual song? Guess I'm just gonna have to listen to all of them. ***Update*** Found it. It's the GigaSlayer and uunnff.

[@balex55lp]

i want my Gicel Spell Back

[@richardkutsera4992]

Maelstorm is still a "meh" animation for a tornado. The best one I have seen so far is in Battlefield 2042 .

[@peterhoffmann2231]

dont worry its all in the dlc ...

[@Remor-yv6bv]

Its really op

[@hipcheckboiii1603]

Wish Maelstrom was actually as powerful as in DDDA. In DD2 it can't suck, it can't twist around and is locked behind a quest. They even removed Gicel!

[@neoharmoniagropius1426]

Dg: DA version it's just Stormcloak Catapult/ Airstrike

[@augustinesim1672]

such cool game hly damn

[@jojr6825]

DD2 meteoron hits harder because i think it has better tracking and it looks like it doesnt have max hits BUT.. I prefer DD1 Bolide because of the delay and it looks like it's really dropping from the sky. Maelstrom still DD1, it's grand in terms of scale.

[@dokokanonihonjinB]

0:57 なぜか野獣先輩の声が聞こえるのだか…気のせいか

[@DenisEastwood]

first spell looks better in dragon's dogma 1 imo

[@sushantsardeshpande9484]

I feel like most changes made to casters were for balance reasons but I still miss the older Meteorain and they should have kept all spells.

[@neobahumuth6]

technically they buffed the crap out of bolide. Before only 3 hits were sure to hit a target now they all hit close together however now it won't hit inside a cave

[@seamagician7042]

I had to take meteoron away from Jesus bc he kept blowing up my ox carts over a goblin or wolf that was hiding near it. Besides graphic, i feel dd1 did it better. The camera movement and the way the meteors enter atmosphere, and being able to see it after you cast

[@premier48]

I am probably going to have to do the same, I am on ng + and there is no need for a meteor every time a goblin attacks lmao. Just hit it with the stick and itll die bro

[@seamagician7042]

@@premier48 exactly

[@slayer31397]

I could forgive the removal of my favorite skills if the classes could use 8. Why ristrict the player freedom to less skills? If warfarer could use 3 per class sure, but as it stands now 4 ain't enough. DDDA is a power fantasy and it knows it, the sequel is too focused on balance but it can't even up the new game+ difficulty so it ends up being mostly trivial by the time you max the classes anyways. I just want my assassin back :(

[@Ghimel8]

DDDA only had 6 skill for most classes and warrior only got 3. DD2 has 4 skills per class and a lot of skills (Thousand Kisses, Tusk Toss, Heal) were incorporated into the core of the kits. DD2's combat is an improvement over the first if you can get over the 2 inch wall that was having 6 spells.

[@slayer31397]

@Ghimel8 Lmao smuuuuuuuug hahahaha I still played 76 hours. Good game, I know what would increase my enjoyment, don't need that nonsense 🤣

[@Ghimel8]

@@slayer31397 76 hours in, looks like you forgave it then. Yeah my bad though, I'm smug af.

[@wokealarm6203]

why yall hating on the new stuff

[@DlangWhat]

With how massive the game world is and how many enemies, npcs, large monsters, and interactables there are in areas now I totally get why some of the spells and such were a bit toned down. and they are still pretty awe inspiring