These techniques made ELECTRIC WIRING our BOAT Super EASY! ⛵️ Ep32

LAHAKAI SAILING // ⛵️ S1 Ep32 // Join our sailboat restoration project as we unveil our game plan for completing the electrical installation. We've devised a clever system to tackle a common challenge faced by sailboat owners: passing wires through limited spaces without getting stuck or pinched. Discover our innovative wire organization techniques that ensure a smooth and hassle-free installation of our electrical equipment... fingers crossed! With this major milestone achieved, we're ready to dive into the next phase of our project: plumbing. Stay tuned as we continue our journey to transform our sailboat into a fully functional and comfortable vessel in the biggest boat restoration of our lives.
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[@lahakai]

Once Mobili Mare gave us the green light to do what we wanted we were excited to get going. Also, a huge thanks to all the great suggestions and comments in the last video for the insulation and electric. We've read them all and you've helped us out so much! Keep up the great feedback!! Tell us, what have been your biggest issue with the electrical installation in your boat?

[@jimprouty6793]

you may want to put in a pull string in the condet, it makes pulling wires later a lot easier.

[@SeekerofGnosis]

definitely do this! pushing wire through a conduit can be an exercise in frustration!

[@CheersWarren]

Actually a small wire is better and stronger

[@ianyoung9837]

Yes to the draw string. Make it over twice the length of the conduit and then tie it off. It will then work with the risk of it being removed.

[@AbNomal621]

Also, always pull another string when using the existing on to pull a wire.

[@erik19497]

Starting an electrical cable list you have to give each cable sequence number and prefix in the cable list. like G-101 G=the type circuit 101=sequence number. So your line entry in the cablelist might be per column: prefix with cable number, to/from connected items, drawing (electrical scheme) number, electrical load (in Kw), connnected to emergency power y/n. Suggest to put this in a spread sheet which makes it possible to you to make additions, selections, etc. All puled calbes in your video shall have a label at both sides showing prefix and cable number. Hope you consider also the amount of cables associated with navigation. e.g. as autopilot cables, navigation system cables, radar cables, start/stop cables motor, etc.

[@mmigran]

Tip: Pull a fishing line through each conduit. It will make wiring so much easier. When you pull a wire through, make sure you attach a new fishing line to it. That way you will always be able to draw new wires in the future. Makes life so much easier.

[@DVolvoguy777-x7o]

Fans, AC, Navionics? Two more conduit for mast electronics? Looking good!

[@juergenzenner4219]

Put already a pilot kable in the pipes. So if you later have to take cable through….. much easier for later. Good luck 🍀

[@CheersWarren]

Lot of suggestions to leave extra pull wire or ‘fish line’ in conduits. I hope you plan for wiring and plumbing locations is based on a rough interior plan ?? So nice for you to be working with new materials , fixing old stuff is so hard and frustrating Cheers Warren

[@christyhanlon554]

Great job guys 👍👍 As per. A previous comment, run a pull wire through the conduit, it will make life much easier if you ever have to run more cable.(that’s coming from an electrician, I know it might seem unnecessary but I know from experience) Love your channel 👍👍🇮🇪🇮🇪❤️❤️

[@karelundberg9523]

You use pipes for the cables. Unfortunately, these can collect condensation water. Therefore, it may be advisable to make holes for drainage at low points. Now you may have used pipes with slots that cannot collect water. Labeling the cables is very good. I don't know if you mentioned that these should be on both ends. You explain very clearly and educationally how the planning and implementation of a low-voltage system should be carried out. I wish you all the best.

[@lahakai]

We thought about the condensation but we’re not sure. Thanks for the tip, we can certainly put drainage holes incase. And we did label both ends of the cables, did forget to mention that! Thanks for your help!! Much appreciated! 🙏🙌⛵️

[@erik19497]

In addition to my earlier comment I would like to suggest also to prepare a cable list per system. it should incude to/from, power consumption, type of cable, etc. It will help you to create overview and to size your power generation and battery loads.

[@marknichols7392]

Add a "pull" cord in the extra conduit. So it easy to snake new wires.

[@sailingsjofagel]

Oh that is a work of art..!! I love the organised layout. You didn't mention the anchor windlass, and usually they need some heavy duty wires from the starter battery if it doesn't have a dedicated battery up forward with charging cables running from the charging circuit. What do you have in mind? Kind regards Grant.

[@01ripkirby]

Adding a draw wire thru the conduit is a must as it will be difficult to push extra cables in later. Also unroll the conduit (or cable roll) rather the pulling sideways as you will get less twisting

[@jakobtheinventor]

Laurie, it is better with several small conduites (tubes) than one big. This is because it can be very difficoult to pull extra cables into one allready half full conduite/tube This i know from experience. The other csbles tend to catch the incomming new cable...and dispite silicone lubricant on the wire, it can be crazy difficult to draw an extra cable.

[@lahakai]

This is a solid suggestion and makes sense! We did buy a different guide early on that really works amazing as well. It has a strong metal spring at the end with a rounded cap that is powering through the conduits. Our previous one was plastic and got hung up everywhere.

[@Davidcallard]

The most important thing to remember wìth ANY conduit is to always install a pull-thru string! How do I know this? Because if you forget it once, you will definitely never forget it again! 😢

[@wallywombat164]

G'day Luke n Lori. I spent quite awhile in Sao Paulo and i really enjoyed going to the restaurants where you weigh your food and your plate. So simple and easy. Oh and have a few Beers a well. ❤❤❤

[@lahakai]

G'day mate! They will sell anything per kilo here in Brazil 😂😂 We love those kinds of restaurants too because you can pick and choose everything and its very fresh. Cheers!

[@wallywombat164]

@@lahakai Spot on. And the beer is nice and cold as well. P.S. i don't eat too much.

[@michaelchamberlain4618]

You have to put the plumbing in also.

[@michaelbennett9643]

Have you run conduit for the dinghy davit, mast head lights, running lights, anchor windlass? Also a good idea to run power to the foredeck for a spotlight.

[@DonFarmer-hq5sw]

Next you need to figure out the plumbing 🪠and through hulls. Personally, I would have at least two manual bilge pumps to backup the electrical ones.

[@philphil6006]

Fantastic job, just make sure your electrics are grounded to an earth properly to eliminate electrolysis to the aluminium hull.

[@jimjones7821]

its steel.

[@JIMMCCRANK]

Looks good but lots of work. When working with conduit like that, to put wire inside tie a little piece of rag to a string put at the one end and with a vacuum suck the rag and string through so you can use the string to pull the wire or whatever into the conduit. Just use string strong enough and long enough to go through. Good luck and I am looking forward to see this vessel sail.

[@kevinmartin3859]

A well organised electric wiring job well done

[@rickcreel3657]

I love the ring markers. This is the first time that I have seen them used. You have a good system for organizing your wiring. If I had to do the same job I would use the system we used on jet fighters. I would start at the tip of the bow and measure in metrics the length of the boat and I would put that number on the wire at the breaker box. This would be the location of the destination of the wire. Skip to the next number and place the number on a clock of the device being fed. Pretend that you are in the center of the hull. The first set of numbers tells you the station of the location and the second set of numbers tells you the location according to a clock. In the breaker area you know the destination of the wire.

[@MrBobVick]

Looks like you spent more than a few minutes planning this out, good job crew.

[@johnsmith4066]

Those electrical conduits do not look large enough. You are going to need some large cables to supply high power DC devices. Work out the size of cables needed for your equipment and make sure you have adequate conduit plus some spare.

[@michaeljamesclarke]

It is going to be a very beautiful boat, keep going! You electric layout ticks all the boxes, except for feeder string through every run as the last action so much easier to modify then.

[@giovanniallegro3790]

Guys really good work, finally I see, among the many I have seen, someone who does a workmanlike job, not all messy like so many do including your friends from the orange boat who no matter how hard they tried to do the best they could, it is not in your league. Really you are doing a great job. I was wondering if you had planned something similar for the 12-volt outlets. Buna continuation Hi

[@kenutton992]

Very good planning team.👍✌️👌😀

[@vladdracula7116]

good work😋

[@rahnlawson9463]

I thought you may want to know this unless you already do know that LED is an acronym for "Light Emitting Diode"

[@erik19497]

Looking to this episode I would like to suggest next to your lables in the boat that you document with electrical schemes all your systems e.g.12v, 24v, etc. Also the power generating part have to be documented. This will help you with a check on the system safety switches, etc.

[@Alex_NL]

Don't forget the cables for the pomp and sensors in your V-birth Also the wall plugs in the country could have different voltage, so couple of wallplugs for 110 and 220/240 V for the different appliances you are going to buy on your trip around the world

[@lahakai]

Very good point! Different voltages is definitely something to tackle! In Brazil alone, this can change from state to state. In Rio we bought everything 127v and here in Santa Catarina everything is 220v. So we had to buy transformers or new things! We'll sit down and think long and hard how to work this out. Cheers!!

[@MrMrmoonbowrd]

Fans in the V-berth and everywhere.

[@lahakai]

Ohhhhh good one! Definitely slipped the mind! Thanks!

[@moccaluis]

Hi 👋🏻 Looking forward to see you guys adventures.

[@jbprospector3638]

Looking good guys. Can't wait to see what is next. 👍😎

[@JamesRook]

Since you're using a lot of LEDS, you might look into getting color changing types so you can switch to red light for your night vision or maybe even an extra dedicated circuit. Nice job so far!

[@Sluf7]

Great idea doing wiring now as makes it so much easier for Cabinet Makers when they do their thing. One thing you could have done was to put in T connector in where something branches of makes it a bit more today and you can slip conduit over it. Above all run it where you might need in future if it never gets used so be it but it's there. The big issue is distance and voltage drop lighting not an issue but everything should be calculated out and add 25%. Anyhoo God job keep at it. ;0)

[@peterclarkson7317]

If you have connectors on the end of cables you want to protect in a conduit, use a split conduit. Basically its a conduit that is split along its length, then a second peice fits over once the cables are fitted.

[@texastad1989]

Definitely a huge task to get all that laid out, good job getting after it - have you had a chance to do a load analysis for your system and any idea what future upgrades to leave overhead or extra conduits for? Now is the perfect time to future proof things a little! Best of luck - I'm looking forward to seeing the inside done, almost as much as the outside fairing and paint.

[@greglight3745]

Getting a tubing cutter, they are like a large pair of scissors, will be a game changer for you. Conduit,hose you name it !

[@lahakai]

Yesss That's what we needed! Now that I think about it, we're going to need that for the plumbing too 😅😅

[@MrMrmoonbowrd]

Think about the very large wires that will be used for the windless as well as the windless control wires. Oh, yes, the bow light the port and starboard, and the stern lights will be brought together at the navigation station. You will have a ton of wire aft of the companion stairway going into the nav. don't forget the bilge. There will be heavy wires to the battery going to and from the controllers. Have you thought of using "messenger" lines? So sorry for destroying your day. Wires, wires everywhere. Your hull is looking wonderful, keep up the fine work. I'm enjoying your adventure. My wife and I spent 5 years as liveaboards always on the hook and always doing the work ourselves. We even became minor experts in refrigeration.

[@lahakai]

Yes your right! Lots of wires! We do have a conduit passed for the windless but we haven't bought the wire yet (cause it's expensive 😅) and also we have conduits to the bilge but haven't been wired yet either. We did buy some thick fishing line to leave in the conduits for future wires but then we haven't installed them. So much to do so little time! 😂😂 We'll be getting to the fridge soon, if we have any questions, we'll let you know! Thanks! Cheers!!

[@scottpiggott7600]

Make sure those zip tie mounting squares are mounted when the surface is over 50 degrees F. Warmer the better until they bond.

[@piotrczarniecki8411]

You guys are awesome. Forward all the time😊

[@jacquesbotha9512]

Not knowing the amount of current that will be running in your systems, but seeing all the trouble, detail you going for in, it might be wise to split comms, navigation wires to run in separate conduits from supply lines

[@sigaoplanob]

Está ficando incrível, muito bem organizado! Parabéns pelo trabalho!!! ⛵⛵⛵

[@johnthomson1579]

I enjoy following your journey. I enjoy the unself-conscious commentary free of coquetry. I am a man and find some sailing channels off-putting because the woman feels she must act as ‘chick-bait’. It’s a temptation to be avoided. Personality trumps flaunting anytime. P.S. Your own cat=walk and pole dance is ironic - a saving grace.

[@josephdeak2257]

Make sure you have access to your NMEA 2000 back bone so you can easily add your electronic equipment.

[@jimmydaniel1127]

What about all the power for your nav station and power for the mast and winches

[@michaelchamberlain4618]

Do you have the electric panel by your chart table??

[@JamesBond-xq3tw]

Before you cover up ,spay a heavy wax over the sides etc

[@douglasfielder6977]

Big wire for anchor windlass needed. If not now, then later.

[@henkdegroot739]

Hello, is it wise to do your hull penetrations first before the interior comes in, I mean watermaker inlet, bilge outlet, washing machine, toilet

[@TheModelShipwrightPaulLester]

For your cable saddles, if you degrease the area with a quick wipe of acetone, the sticky pads will stick forever, save yourselves time messing with contact adhesive.

[@lahakai]

Even if the metal sweats? We did drop a couple of these sticky pads on the bilge after we removed them and they did stick real well. Was a struggle to get it off.

[@TheModelShipwrightPaulLester]

@@lahakai Yes, I have used 1000's as a panel wireman on outdoor signs, and never had a problem, as long as you degrease first 😀

[@lahakai]

Fantastic! That would certainly speed up that part of the job. It was time consuming to prepare and glue these guys. Thanks for your help! Cheers!

[@SayWhatinAz]

Make sure you know which wire route in each pathway as colored wire relating to circuits is preferred...you running battery at winch to reduce current draw?

[@carrollstrella8905]

you forgot your fans

[@lahakai]

We did indeed! 😂😂

[@edgarda.n.raymundo7738]

What kind of wires did you use?

[@barntt]

You ARE following ABYC standards right?

[@lahakai]

We are not located in the US. But we are following the guidelines of local professionals and standards.

[@michaelchamberlain4618]

May God bless you all in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.

[@emmengel]

If you guys can afford it I would lay off the cabin design and cardboard, it will greatly help you see where you really want that stuff. I know I'm days and weeks late from giving this advice.

[@lahakai]

This is a great idea! We had created an original layout but it has been changed, that’s why we are not definite about things. We were going to have the layout done a month ago but we are remeasuring everything with Mobili Mare and they are doing a 3D layout now. We will use some cardboard modeling for some other things though! Cheers!!

[@r.szymanski5003]

You are out of your league,good luck

[@lanetatom2701]

Fish tape.

[@bpioger]

si vous voulez passez rapidement les cables électriques voici une video qui explique une astuce... mes amitiés kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpDVYayJmZx9qrs

[@tommytriglav5181]

I have never seen such ga[ps between the inner frame and the steel. There is supposed to be no gaps everything is supposed to be welded on tight for structural support. All that 3,000 of parging and apint that fell off may have been due to your sides flexing too much and the parging was stiffer than the steel so it fell off. That is what I am worried about. Not sure what your inspector engineer thought of all those gaps. I hope you reinforced the window pars you thinned the roof and sides and when a ton of water lands on your roof the only thing supporting it are the pillars at the windows that you thinned down. Better thicken those up. Otherwise I do love the shape of your hull.

[@geoffgold6773]

I can see that you guys have no idea what your doing please stop as your going to do it again first of all are you running the whole boat on 12 volts or having an inverter for 110v or 240v The cable you have left at the Nav station need to be longer as connections will be connected to a hinged panel this will require a loop in the cables so they can move when working on the panels Where are the main Battery Cables? The AC and DC cables need to be in separate conduits .Please hire professional marine electrician to help you it’s no good guessing

[@christosphillips3568]

Totally agree, also …..plastic tie wraps cannot live forever, especially within a boat environment. Fastening wires with them is sketchy to say the least 🫣🫣