How ALL CARIDINA SHRIMP Lines Were Domesticated. The History & Genetics of Fancy Shrimp! Deep Dive

[@Colton_Lee]

The most underrated, informative, and interesting fishkeeping channel on KZbin! 🔥💯

[@Fishtory]

I appreciate that! 🙏 thank you. Now if only more people thought so, or knew of the channel hahah.

[@agnediciuniene9861]

I just found this channel yesterday. It is very interesting to listen. Very knowledgeable. Thank you. ♥️

[@BirdwellingtonAmalgamation]

Agreed!

[@VonHoff6]

I’m taking my time and working my way through the video. I don’t wanna passively watch. So much great information.

[@severedvibrations1211]

I was a disbeliever early on but I've become a devoted follower with each new release. Absolute quality

[@mojobear93]

This was really interesting. Had no idea these types of shrimp were so new to the hobby. Watching this with a big bowl of rice.

[@Fishtory]

Its pretty amazing what humans have created by mixing about 60 generations of shrimp... imagine another 100 generations!

[@Fishtory]

00:01-Background On Shrimp Hobby 16:15 - Start of Crystal Red & Black Shrimp + Tiger Shrimp History. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING! THIS EPISODE IS ALSO AUDIO FRIENDLY (But Watching is much Better if you dont know all the Caridina Morphs & Lines :) As promised, here is a link to my video on: Neocaridina (Cherry, Blue Dream, Gold Line, Bloody Mary etc.) History & Genetics: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWPUo2V-o7h5kK8

[@jeffkane4391]

Great information, sir! Thanks for sharing, and I'm looking forward to the next deep dive 😁

[@Fishtory]

Glad you dig these deep dives. I waited 6 years for the genetic research to finally come out in scholarly journals before i could make this lol

[@jonbuckley]

What a fascinating video. This is the first time I have heard it explained from start to finish.

[@Fishtory]

Thanks. It was a lot of research...even after being here in the hobby watching it unfold. I have to give most the credit to the geneticists tho...dr. zhang is a legend hehe

[@_KingQuinn_]

Love listening to your podcasts while I drive. Makes being stuck in traffic so much enjoyable, and I learn so much along the way. Thank you Alex for educating us and doing it all for free ❤

[@Fishtory]

100% thank YOU for listening! Im trying to get the podcast up and going in a more real way soon...like drops 2x a week

[@Ghosteminx]

Thank you SO much for this video. I'm a shrimp breeder & lover, and you informed me so much. You earned a follower.

[@i77top]

Wow man such a great video on this topic, true caridina enthusiasts know just how fantastic this info is, barely any vids like this on yt

[@Fishtory]

Thank you ! I worked a long time to try and "prove" or confirm the info ive heard for years, and with the dna studies recently, i finally was able to make this video and be fairly confident about it all. Cheers

[@johnmanrow2667]

Thanks for this deep dive on Caridina shrimp.

[@Fishtory]

My pleasure... I just had to unravel the mess that the hobby has left us in. Only with genetics did we sort it out...mostly haha

[@jj_hoolio]

We had a huge snow storm last weekend and i have waited to shovel until yesterday and today, lol. Partly laziness, partly waiting to see if the caretaker would handle it bc it was a LOT. Yesterday i listened to your video on tannins, today i listened to this one. Listened on 1.75x speed and they were the perfect length for each shoveling session (hard work, too! It was mostly frozen 😵 had to break it up with an ice chipper first). I love rice 😉 sushi/sashimi is my favorite food. Thank you for your very hard work; yours has fast become my favorite channel. -Jade

[@Fishtory]

Glad to hear it! Thanks for tuning in...at any speed.

[@steveherje4025]

Thanks!

[@Fishtory]

You got it

[@jupie47]

I really appreciate how knowledgeable and informative your videos/you are thank you so much

[@Fishtory]

You are so welcome! Welcome to the community here! Also If you would like to share more of your own fish, shrimp, snail or plant keeping & aquascaping feel free to join our chat and resources over at discord under FISHTORY! discord.gg/S3nryKfzYy

[@cliffyp13]

Rice and Skrimp!! 🦐💙 Awesome video video Alex, thank you so much for taking the time to dive into this very intriguing and fascinating history! 🦐🦐🦐

[@Fishtory]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@rexbrowning4709]

Lost not last awesome videos brother keep up the awesome work 👏 👍 💪

[@Fishtory]

You bet, my man!

[@michellebarnhill5130]

WOOHOO I love it when another video drops from Fishtory!! Hope you have a great Friday and weekend !!

[@Fishtory]

You too!! Enjoy

[@jmanhach17]

Oh I’m excited. Right up my alley.

[@Fishtory]

Glad to hear it! Thanks

[@Aquariumike]

This is incredible, what a research and knowledge you got!

[@Fishtory]

Well thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed this

[@jayniven1017]

Rice rice baby! Worth staying up longer for Alex! Cheers from a Very Wet Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🦞😎✌️

[@Fishtory]

Aye! Cheers mate! Thanks for havin a look and dropping by.

[@takashi.iwasaki]

Thank you for the in-depth documentary about Caridina shrimp, which had the history of patience, coincidence, intentional misinformation among other factors that I didn't know about until I watched this. Now I'm onto watching your story on the history of Neocardina shrimp. RICE!

[@nirvanaquatics]

I had to listen to this again because it’s such a good overview! Excellent content, my friend.

[@Fishtory]

Much appreciated! Thank you

[@dellseasandoval8187]

It’s actually we who must thank you for the last 6 years of your efforts on this one topic in particular. Keep up the good work my friend.

[@Fishtory]

My pleasure!

[@PotooBurd]

This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌 wow so much line breeding! I felt compelled to buy the last few shrimp when my lfs closed 😢 my 7 blueish dream shrimp have been doing great and a few have formed nice saddles 🎉 thank you for sharing your knowledge it has helped so much

[@Fishtory]

No problem. Thanks for all your support

[@alexsala1416]

Superb content. Learning about aspects of the aquarium hobby I didn't even know existed! Kudos.

[@Fishtory]

Glad to hear it. And thank you kindly. Have a great weekend!

[@juliuslim3644]

Great content by the way. Good job of compiling these historical❤ info

[@Fishtory]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@Eastmancornhole]

Awesome Awesome Awesome 👌 👏 👍 😍 💖 😎 👌 Great video my Dude I will watch this multiple times love it

[@Fishtory]

Thank you very much! I am honored to read your comment

[@bioshock745]

bro i just came across your channel not so long ago and will say your one of the most knowledgeable on many topics... keep up the good work from UK fish people ;)

[@NathanButh]

Been going through a bunch of your deep dives recently. Amazing work as always, and its obscene that we can access this for free. Also rice.

[@Fishtory]

Glad you enjoy then. Thank you Nathan

[@stevelesterfelt7005]

You don’t miss with these

[@Fishtory]

Thanks haha

[@shanelowe3902]

Excellent content; thank you!

[@Fishtory]

You're very welcome!

[@mrojomrojo9478]

Great info all over this video much appreciated keep it up man

[@Fishtory]

Thank you kindly 🙏

[@tuckrex2038]

I already know this is gonna be another amazing domestication video, I’m excited to watch this

[@GregorMima]

Hey cheers man! Luv Rice Fish, wish i could keep em but its getting too warm in my flat for them during summer 😞 (28°C)

[@Fishtory]

Ahh bummer

[@Neuri]

I love your vids dude, thank you for such in depth stuff!!

[@Fishtory]

My pleasure! Thank you very much. Welcome

[@spidythe]

Fascinating. After several years of keeping Neocaridina shrimp, I just got a few red crystal shrimp over the weekend. I find shrimp much more interesting to keep than fish.

[@Fishtory]

" Gentlemen!! - There's No Fighting in the War Room!"

[@SkubaSteveosAquatics]

Great video bro especially I’m getting into caridina waiting for my tank to build so bio film before I get them in!! 😊

[@Fishtory]

Good call! Thanks for coming by my friend. Cheers

[@augustinetong128]

Wonderful video and channel. Thank you.

[@Fishtory]

Many thanks! It is extremely appreciated

[@Mr.SilverSmith]

What an awesome class I just had. Thank you very much, I just commented in another video of yours about the Potimirim dwarf shrimp thats from Brazil. I imagine there can also be this kind of mixed up starting to happen right now since they come from different places and there are already new small shrimp being catalogued. I just hope here if we do all this cross breeding we start off by knowing each breed there truly is out there.

[@Mr.SilverSmith]

Also I’m wondering are this shrimp from Brazil elegible to breeding and beginning to create new types of the same shrimp as it happened with the amanos?

[@Fishtory]

You're very welcome, and yes im very excited for more shrimp species. Also i have a video on the history of caridina shrimp from the first crystals in the 1990s to the wild stuff today... you may enjoy that long form one too

[@BirdwellingtonAmalgamation]

Haha rice crew for sure man. This cleared up so much. I really love your deep dive approach, and info dumps. 👏

[@Fishtory]

Thank you so much! Im honored anyone wants to nerd out on these topics with me haha

[@BrodysBettas]

Thank you for the great info, as always!

[@Fishtory]

Thanks for watching

[@FishCapadesProductions]

❤ love your deep dives ❤ thank you good sir! ❤ already looking forward to the next! ❤️

[@Fishtory]

Aww thanks...it will likely be bettas part 2

[@TheFishyPlumber]

Two thumbs up on this one. Can't wait to see where we take these in the future!

[@Fishtory]

Thank you for tuning in. Cheers

[@TheFishyPlumber]

Came back just to say RICE!

[@wingingitadventures]

Some good info. Thank you. And fyi I picked the cover you chose 😊

[@Fishtory]

Haha thanks...i keep changing it, because the clicks are way off...it must be the topic is a bit too nerdy

[@wingingitadventures]

@@Fishtory no way. I like how much thought and effort you put into your content. I know when I'm about to watch one of your videos most likely I'm learning something.

[@squamsh122]

This is so concise and interesting.

[@Fishtory]

Glad to hear it. Thanks

[@AlvanDunlap]

Last week I went to Fin and Feather in Eureka, CA to buy a filter for an aquarium a friend gave me to keep my two gold fish in while I build a bigger pond for them. There I saw the most amazing tiny shrimp and have been watching videos about them all week. Pinto Rice!

[@Fishtory]

Oh right on!

[@dantreuthart9146]

I love your 'Axis Bold As Love ' poster. I still have my vinyl 'Axis Bold As Love ' which I purchased decades ago.

[@dantreuthart9146]

I finished watching your video. What an interesting and convoluted genetic history. Rice

[@Fishtory]

Haha right?! Theres a reason i couldnt make the video for 6 years...until the genetic resesrch was completed AND reviewed ... and there are still 2 schools of belief on what occured lol

[@alfernandez1453]

What a deep dive, thank you

[@williemickbillie]

always THEE best info and in-depth dives on a topic. remember the first video 6 years ago. RICE

[@LegendMuse84]

Major pat on the back, would send you rice crispy treats if I could. Dyed like crystal shrimps with little eyes and everything. Cheers you fabulous researcher, you!

[@Fishtory]

Haha thank you... boy now i want rice crispy treats lol

[@Thomas.V.-223]

Thank you Alex always bringing awesome and great knowledge and and facts. I've been doing shrimp for a couple years it's been very fun and interesting it has kept me up on my toes sometimes can be very difficult to keep them alive like you said.

[@Fishtory]

Yeah ive unfortunately killed about as many as ive bred in total now lol

[@Thomas.V.-223]

@@Fishtory yeah me too it's been one bumpy road but I'm still intrigued and fascinated with them they're just too cool 😎.

[@JoseTorres-fn1vk]

This is cool!! 😎

[@Fishtory]

Glad you think so Jose. This one was in the works over half a decade ... a whole binder of notes lol. 📝 😄

[@JoseTorres-fn1vk]

I'm so glad I found your KZbin videos

[@Alhabeeb43]

Love the video and info as always 🙏 could you please add extra b roll footage next time when you talk about the different species or color morphs, it would make it way easier to keep track and visualize the process.

[@Fishtory]

So i did... but for some reason the file was too large and wouldnt upload, so then i uploaded half edited and half without. But finding BRoll of most the wild ones i mentioned and what the early lines looked lkke, sadly does not even exist outside of photos... probablg in some ones home camcorder from the 80s and 90s

[@Fishtory]

Secretly im hoping some.shrimp nut or rich person will want to edit the few videos available out there, into it.

[@Alhabeeb43]

@@Fishtory try davinci resolve, you have a lot of export options and even to yt format. But yeah I can only imagine the struggle of editing a 1 hour video and then trying to rearrange it all once it is done 🤦 (you can add markers with notes in davinci so you can drop the pictures or broll later) but other than that I don't mind seeing that beautiful face for an hour. My curiosity and ADD keeps going to Google while watching so I wanted to leave some constructive crit. for later 🙏

[@Alhabeeb43]

@@Fishtory hopefully footage might resurface from a random garage sale or the new upscaling tech might get their kids to upload it in the future, fingers crossed. It's like the origin of these tiny dog breeds, im glad someone is documenting the process because it's a crazy transformation imo.

[@Ballacha]

1:01:38 that's interesting. because people are finding tangerine tiger shrimps in hong kong waters while as i understand wild tiger shrimps are largely transparant. so is tangerine a truly wild colour or was it bred by human then dumped back into where they were found?

[@Fishtory]

So the wild species does have a taiwanese morph with yellow and dark stripes ( hence a misnomer of bee shrimp, actually ) but there are also 7 or more species similar in Hong Kong and coastal Chinese Island waters... my guess is pets have been released in that specific case, as surveys were conducted by Wang, Feng, Zhang et al 5 or 6 times from 1988- 2004 without mention of a yellow form.... stripes were how ever, very common

[@Ballacha]

@@Fishtory yup i was meant to say wild tiger shrimps i've seen in my youth while living in southern china were transparent with dark stripes. but i could be misidentifying/misremembering baby Penaeus Monodon as a Caridina species. who knows. but thanks for this very detailed breakdown and origin story of the little buggers living in my tanks. keep up the top tier content mate.

[@sinannjewel4577]

Great video! 🔥✨️ Sticky rice is one of my favorite foods. 🍚 😉☺️

[@Fishtory]

Me too! I was born in the wrong food culture i think lol. Thank you

[@nicolem376]

I spotted some Barbus Fasciolatus in your tank in an older video 🤗 Do you have a video about them? I have a chance to get 6 for an established planted (unheated-maintains around 70-72 degrees depending on time of year) 20g long tank that has 15 adult rosy red minnows, 5 white clouds, a juvenile bristle nose & a few nerite snails. I also have houseplants growing out of the tanks & no issues with nitrates/nitrites/ammonia. I think I’m going to add the barbs. The research I’ve done online tells me it should work but there is not much info on KZbin. I’d love to see your take on this super cute little fish. It seems crazy that I just stumbled across some in my LFS & had never heard of them.

[@Fishtory]

I dont unfortunately. But i do enjoy them

[@tomaswojtowicz2166]

Rice ! Awesome video. Thank you..

[@Fishtory]

Thank YOU

[@NORIaquaCh]

Very informative, thanks 👍

[@Fishtory]

Glad it was helpful!

[@eloralangford73]

I freaking loved this. I’m getting my first two groups of caridina shrimp on Tuesday I ordered them a few days ago. I’m so so incredibly excited to see them. I’ve got some fancy red tigers and some Mischlings as I thought it would be fun to see unique babies and see if I can line breed something from them.

[@Brobeartofu]

I love rice fish! And...I think there would be real interest in a line of hybridized (though still attractive) caridina with robust genetics that are as hardy as neos. As it is, the caridina available locally are ridiculously fragile, and it's a real bummer because they look so good!

[@Fishtory]

Yes its sure taking a long time for the US Hobby to spread hearty...rather than pretty lines

[@manestailsfurandfins]

Amazing, Great Job Alex

[@Webzcraft]

Awesome video. Thankyou

[@sagep.lindsay5236]

I picked up 5 of your blue malawa shrimp at Salem Swap, thay came from your origanal brought to WVAS.

[@Fishtory]

Ooo how was the line looking? Still mostly blues?

[@josefluxa]

That was a lot of interesting information…thank you for this dive video! I jus recently discovered your channel and I think it’s awesome. My favourites shrimps are definitely the Taiwan bees! Rice! 😊🦐

[@Fishtory]

Thank you so much for tuning in. Also, welcome to the channel. There are 1,200 different videos over 6 years on here now! Hehe

[@missselizabeth5696]

Oh this is really helpful. I'm interested in trying to breed some kind of shrimp. I have cherries right now but I'm considering caridina since I have super tap soft water.

[@Fishtory]

Oh you should! At least get some crystals and pintos... maybe king kongs or blue bolts and just mix em all together to see how their awesome genetics work!

[@missselizabeth5696]

@@Fishtory thank you for your advice, the water is so soft in Sydney that all the neo keepers use RO water and remineralise. I’d prefer not to go that far since I mostly focus on nano community tanks.

[@foodforfaeries]

See this is the Tea that I'm looking for

[@Fishtory]

Haha 😄 welcome to Tea Spill-ville

[@MrDaRock]

Dude I just had to subscribe, can not thank you enough for all you do for the community. Keep it up Sensei! ps: Ho and i love rice btw

[@Fishtory]

Im honored and humbled. Thank you and welcome 🙏

[@carybritton4178]

Definitely appreciate the information

[@sarahenson9659]

Really fascinating. Thank you! The shrimp breeders have come up with some amazingly beautiful shrimp, but I prefer the “original” bee shrimp. The wild ones are so interesting. I think they’d go great in my bucket list tank- a hill steam loach set-up.

[@aaronspencer8800]

What about triops I've tried keeping them and hatching them and didn't have luck with it and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for the great information bro

[@_invertico_]

Such a informative video! I shared this to my channel.I am planning to make my own caridina shrimp and it will be a German bee

[@Fishtory]

Right on! Thank you kindly and best wishes. Keep me updated on how it goes, please 🙏

[@_invertico_]

@@Fishtory ok,I will for sure 😁

[@kevinsheppard8725]

Awesome 👌🏾 You da MAN! 🤓🧐🤗

[@hemkeshyeole4414]

man i love this detail video

[@CrystalmarieGrz]

I had no idea there was so many different kinds of shrimp. Just a few weeks ago I thought there was 2 kinds. Lol I was so dumb thank you. I saw the neocaridina video and was amazed. I thought ghost shrimp were Amano and all the color ones were the neocaridina.

[@Fishtory]

Dont feel bad...there's so sooo much to learn, and most are not common

[@hugomouteira7015]

Great video as always alex! If I have a community tank with 6.5 pH, and respectable TDS for them, can I have black galaxy shrimps there, then? Will they adapt? Regards

[@Fishtory]

Probably as long as the kh isnt more than 7 or so

[@MPTDDWSGETLFFE]

I think I'm going crazy with all this information....... but great video. I don't know how you are doing this resarch, good work

[@aaronarmstrongaa]

Subbed. I really appreciate your effort in this but it was just too much for me in watch in ine setting (its 4am here in Australia) Anyway at the start you mentioned you would show some new upcoming species but I couldn't find that part...do you have a timestamp please?

[@Fishtory]

I show them peppered throughout, but they arent truly new species in most cases, rather new names for the existing lines and what created them has been renamed

[@seanpearson5749]

Thanks

[@caroleinwv]

Great presentation. What are the parameters that work for you? What plants work best in those conditions? The funny thing is, I just love keeping shrimp and don't even care about color.😅

[@Fishtory]

I like kh4 gh 5-6 tds around 100-140 ppm and ph 6.8 brightwell soil and low tds rain water or humidifier water

[@caroleinwv]

@@Fishtory Thank you!

[@Mr_Penguin2305]

I recently discovered dragonblood/calceo shrimp and those look amazing! My other favorite are galaxy fishbone.

[@Fishtory]

Red and yellow Calceo are also probably my favorite too! Thanks

[@carlam.9529]

Alex, you ALWAYS earn a 👍my friend !!!

[@awollsd]

1st great video very interesting. but for some reason i find how "new" this all is in the hobby to be the most interesting. considering how long we've been keeping fish and compare to how new ornamental shrimp keeping is and how far it's come in such short time. crazy to think with how new it is, there could be so much more to come. soon we'll have more variety than there are grains of rice ;)

[@Fishtory]

Yes i agree completely! And using such few species out of the 2,000+ Known small shrimp species too

[@fishandcrab]

I really like your channel. Thanks for the education. Rice

[@Fishtory]

So nice of you to say. Welcome and thanks for being curious 😊

[@TheFishyPlumber]

I've been trying the crystal red's, my water is to hard though so I think I should stay with the Neos.

[@Fishtory]

If you cant keep it under around 150 tds and 7ph ... let alone kh and gh levels...that may be the case

[@TheFishyPlumber]

R/O system will be my next update

[@swiftfeather147]

i really appricated this information, i had a simular expirence with the difference between getting some low grade cherry shrimp who very happily lived in my natrual tap water, thoguht nothing of it and then got some very expensive blue dreams who couldn't handle it at all and failed to molt! At least they're not in rice tho

[@idio-syncrasy]

Thank you

[@Fishtory]

You're welcome 😊 thank YOU

[@stefanchin4009]

I've been looking for information on the genetics of bee shrimp for a while, and this was a very enlightening video. The lack of information on the actual breeding and genetics of the shrimp is really annoying as an aspiring shrimp breeder. Also, do you have a list of sources for further reading? I'd like to see if there's any similar literature regarding the genetics.

[@Fishtory]

Check out my newer video... "The history of caridina shrimp domestication."... there's a few papers that tested genetics of wild vs. Domestic lines.

[@mofish3601]

Thank you for the great video! I just found someone local to me who keeps some and can’t wait to trade cherry shrimp for cardinas (now I want to know the species!)

[@dax8753]

have you ever researched palaemonetes varians , their adaptability is amazing I keep them my favourite by far , not fancy but have so much personality and smart . mine beg for food they hang on the front glass waving their hands . In laboratories they will adapt to a wide range of salinity ,from fresh to marine and adapt to extreme deep sea pressures .Amazing for a 20p feeder shrimp ?

[@Fishtory]

I didnt for this video, but i do know of them, and wonder why more shops dont carry rhem. Its a very local thing, big time.

[@DebzAquaPetz]

Thank you, Alex enjoyed this informative video alot. It was definitely better than eating curry and rice. 😁🤗💕

[@benjaminpeters3885]

thank you sir

[@Fishtory]

Most welcome

[@naegwut]

This was fun

[@brushitoff503]

I'll swap you some Noodles for your rice ha ha. Fantastic stuff Alex!

[@willdrullard]

That’s one nice thumbnail

[@Fishtory]

Isnt that a beautifil boa? Man so cool. I wish i knew who bred it

[@AndrewHeisey]

Epic video, been waiting for something like this. It’s very confusing to hear the word caradina in conjunction with crystal/bee/tiger/tibee/etc. I’m still not 100% on all the differences, but getting there.

[@AndrewHeisey]

Rice nerd

[@Fishtory]

Its all good. I had to use a ton of notes to keep it all straight too lol. I could logically think it all out... but its tricky...and there are hundreds of variants now

[@timonoldroot]

Thank you for all these information, we also love rice😂

[@Fishtory]

My pleasure 😊

[@debraramey1106]

What about Rainbow Shrimp ?

[@Fishtory]

Mantis shrimp? They're saltwater and wild

[@garthantash]

I mainly keep neos (love my rice coloured snowballs) and only have tang tigers for caridinas. I have wondered many times that if shrimp keepers seem to only select for looks then what are the repercussions and I finally have my answer. I been speaking to local crystal red breeder who has been trying to wean his stock onto our local tap water (it is like liquid rock) and now I know he is trying to make them *more* like the original species in their water parameter tolerance so it might be possible after all.

[@Fishtory]

Grant and shelby eder have done that somewhat as well. Im so grateful for the breeders working on that! Thanks for tuning in and dropping by

[@tigerbokken6922]

Makes me think how much we will still discover in the the hobby for the next years. Maybe some crazy guy is breeding new lines of freshwater isopods or scuds in some secret fishroom somewhere

[@amazingaquaticsandexotics3030]

crazy how complicated these shrimp morphs are

[@jnburdn1083]

Great video :D I love shrimp and Rice fish LOL easy

[@chrisdavidson3180]

I love me some deep deep dives. But can I keep caridina in hard water yet? Rice is nice...

[@Fishtory]

Its getting better, but not quite yet. Around 200 tds is fine with crystals and tangerine tigers