Lego Batman's Subversive Qu33rcoding

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TRIGGER WARNINGS
-Violence, guns and knives
-Batman punches a dog (The Dark Knight) at 20:08 and there's a drawing of a horse on fire at 16:40
FOOTAGE
The Lego Batman Movie
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
Justice League
The Dark Knight Returns
Harley Quinn
Batman 1966
The Adventures of Batman
Batman and Robin
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Batman: The Animated Series
Scooby Doo and Guess Who?
The Batman 2021 trailer
The Ambiguously Gay Duo
Confidential File: Horror Comic Books
MUSIC
“Fluffy” - Smith The Mister • Fluffy
“Gentle and Horny” - Giorgio Di Campo • Gentle & Horny - bossa...
In the Hall of the Mountain King - Kevin MacLeod / kmacleod
“Finally” - Loxbeats • Finally - Loxbeats (No...
“Delibes: The Flower Duet (From ‘Lakmé’)” - Katherine Jenkins, Kiri Te Kanawa, Philharmonia

[@hamhamson7740]

A man has fallen for a man in lego city

[@four-en-tee]

HEY

[@lucaswoods1725]

I like ya meme G

[@robynrunestone2533]

@4nt *Gay

[@Starrii_Skies]

I can’t see me loving nobody but you

[@icanandwillscreamifimnotgi3945]

Amazing. Phenomenal. Made me smile. Drastically improved my day //g ❤❤😷

[@tamayako2000]

Batman really said "no homo" for like 20 years huh

[@privatehere3324]

Well with far right groups accusing him of being gay and causing deliquency among children he kind of had to.

[@kstar1489]

@@ztancomfort187 yes that happened, did you watch the video?

[@ztancomfort187]

@@kstar1489 lol i read the comment wrong

[@kstar1489]

@@ztancomfort187 ah, lol

[@celisewillis]

Batman debuted on March 30, 1939, so maybe more like 80+ years lol

[@Ella-pr9cc]

I think my favorite queer thing in this whole movie, is the fact that Dick goes the entire movie until the end thinking that Batman and Bruce Wayne are a couple and that he has two dads.

[@greninjastorm6734]

I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, THAT'S SO WHOLESOME

[@LanceLee-dh5pc]

Uh no, he just assumed they would share being dads. This isn't coding to Batman and Bruce Wayne being a thing, that's just plain delusional

[@zingiberaceae]

​@@LanceLee-dh5pcYou're right it's not coding. But Dick did think he had two dads for most of the movie, which is gay.

[@pixelzebra8440]

WAIT LMAOOO

[@pixelzebra8440]

@@LanceLee-dh5pc “share being dads” isn’t gay? 💀

[@dream_walker9726]

THEY LITERALLY HELD HANDS TO SAVE GOTHAM WHAT MORE DO WE NEED

[@SmokeyChipOatley]

I told myself I wouldn’t cry… 🥺🥹😭😢😐😑😭😭😭😭

[@Peku_G]

Artists with their OC's nowadays: *Yes, more gay.* Artists with their OC's back then: *Yes, more gay.*

[@absolutefuckingchaos3785]

No one can contain the *gay*

[@Denturess]

What else hasn’t changed us the voice of the opinionated telling you “you can’t make a gay character!!” Sure it’s for different reasons now but man they’re still there.

[@lyrisio]

Everyone is making each character in their fan-fiction be gay or incest.

[@skullcidd]

@@lyrisio im sorry gay or WHAT ? 😀

[@tombick9311]

@@lyrisio I’m sorry what?

[@ef1876]

This is great but nowhere near as great as “Batman lives in Bruce Wayne’s basement??” “No Bruce Wayne lives In Batman’s attic”

[@nesconcen3427]

When she mentioned the humor i expected exactly to hear that.

[@starryeyedsongstress]

i just realized what the joke was oMGGGGG

[@taylorrayner1394]

They were roommates

[@ruby.6754]

@@starryeyedsongstress what’s the joke

[@alteregobruh]

@@ruby.6754 Bruce Wayne is Batman. they live in the same house bc they’re the same guy. That’s it.

[@monikorasort]

Love how all the other villains are emotionally supporting Joker in his romantic dilemma with Batman. Harley telling him that Batman will realize how much he needs Joker, the whole group being there for Joker to confess his “hatred” and booing Batman when he doesn’t reciprocate. He has the friend group we all need

[@HarleyWithJoker]

No fr tho Harley is surprisingly chill about this weird polyamorous relationship. *I played the Batman choice story, so yeah. I know things* 😃😎

[@safegourd]

@@HarleyWithJokerThey’re not polyamorous in the Lego Batman Movie though. Joker explicitly refers to Harley Quinn as his girl buddy. (In other universes, I’m sure that dynamic is explored - just not in lego batman!)

[@lucilleballs2291]

[@sv32099]

​@@HarleyWithJokerHarley seemed to be more like a supportive friend in this film than an actual love (or hate) interest

[@HarleyWithJoker]

@@sv32099 ik

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

While the hypermasculine aspects of Batman are absolutely present and often a problem, I find that a lot of the most compelling Batman stories are ones that accurately explore how Batman is harmed by his over-reliance on that masculinity. The violence, the lack of emotion, the need to do everything himself, these are inherently tragic character flaws when written well. The very best Batman stories are ones where we see Batman actively struggle with these, much to the worry of his father-figure, Alfred.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

*never a problem Hypermasculinity is cool

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 | Between your account's name and this comment, I'm assuming you're trapped in a well of recursive irony, right?

[@isapu1948]

There was one episode of Batman The Animated Series where Batman and Robin stumbled on an alias that refers to the man who killed Robin's parents (that Robin didn't know about) Instead of expressing himself, Batman refused to let Robin in on what what going on, shutting down any questions and insisted on dealing with this by himself He wound up with an injured leg and might have died if it wasn't for Robin's stubbornness. Very much a proof of what you said.

[@hey_loud]

Masculinity isn’t a bad thing, weak men make the world worse and gayer.

[@yukarilolz]

​@@isapu1948 i actually watched that series not too long ago, and to an extent i agree but that episode didn't really address the problems in any meaningful way. It felt more like a character reveal than showing his problems 'aww batman does care for robin' Tbqh i think 2003 teen titans robin works better as a self destructive self reliant character than the batman animated series batman

[@trashcat9366]

A JOKER HAS FALLEN FOR A BATMAN IN GOTHAM CITY!

[@jordanwait7264]

LOL

[@Siennarchist]

Godamnit

[@goosegoose8345]

@@Siennarchist uhhhhhh

[@scottishmrmonopoly6832]

Get the batcopter

[@tomimated1638]

Hey! Build the conversion camp, use unethical force, and maintain the status quo, in lego city!

[@CleaverCrusader1987]

Kids: Start liking a thing Parents: Hmmm yes, this is bad and will turn my child into a criminal

[@nwut]

do you think gay people are bad because they arent

[@CleaverCrusader1987]

​@@nwutI do not think gay people are bad, why do you ask?

[@nwut]

@@CleaverCrusader1987 sorry i misunderstood what you said

[@CleaverCrusader1987]

@@nwut It's alright, it happens to everyone

[@freshmilk7122]

Wow. When I first read the reply I thought a full blown war would break out but :):):):):)

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

Fun fact, along with homphobia, the CCA also was very much mysoginistic. Along with forcing female writers out, eventually leading into the oversexualazation of many fictional women, it caused several comic writers to poke fun at the thing. For instance, Power Girls boobwindow grew wider specificallt to push the boundaries. She hulk actually put a direct joke about this, labeling her underwear as 'protected by the comics code authority'.

[@katitax508]

Yeah, I remember reading a while ago about Wonder Woman being censored for it

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Though objectifying women ain't feminist either

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I mean yegua but it’s relevant. Never said it was. Actually what was meant to be a feminist costume was ms marvel! Her overt sexuality and revealing costume was meant as a direct jab at the sexist attitude of the CCA

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@eldritchcupcakes3195 Maybe, there were feminists that used nudity and skimpy clothes to piss off sexist Christians, but the issue is that equally sexist pervy men jumped onto that and ruined it.

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 oh yeah gross men totally misinterpreted the point, but it doesn’t change the message

[@charsiuwu8084]

Lego Batman is the pinnacle of "Be Gay, Do Crime" but instead of hatred it's unfiltered joy.

[@thiccmothman420]

"This film works works as a romance as well as a comedy" Does that mean the lego batman movie is a romcom?????

[@miag5779]

Nice pfp

[@cyberguppy419]

Yes

[@sarinabina5487]

HOLY SH

[@Starrii_Skies]

It wasn’t??????

[@ihavenoclueeither]

WAIT-

[@lakamokolaka]

Alternate Title: Batman The Biggest Tsundere in all of Media

[@bambangmaulana8121]

@@Mister_Domm it's not like i *hate* you or anything.. Baka

[@rubberduckproductions544]

It even makes sense in the comics LMAO insert any member of the justice league or batfamily, and he hated all of them at first lol

[@anarchomando7707]

@@rubberduckproductions544 batman x Superman Rich goth sugar daddy x happy-go-lucky unkillable farmboy boy scout

[@luzhalley]

It's not that I like you ir anything!! B a t k a

[@NutpuffTheWolf]

Yes

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

Always thought Batman works even better when he's gay, especially since animated Batman's long-running VA was gay, and spoke often on how he related so much to the Caped Crusader's double life while growing up. The idea of Bruce actively PRETENDING to be a playboy while being quietly miserable is something some stories toy with, and that only gets all the more compelling if he's also in the closet.

[@danjlp9155]

"You had me at shut up" is pure genius. Oh my god the dialogue in this movie is so good

[@MangaMarjan]

This reminds me of the Joker being repulsed by Red Skull because he's a nazi. Murder, torture, unspeakable acts of violence=ok. Doing all of these out of a sense of racial superiority=get out of here!

[@tripledigit4835]

Well Joker is an anarchist, while Red Skill is a totalitarian. Completely opposite in terms of worldview and governing philosophy

[@colin3ds1]

When was this crossover?

[@staby3956]

Just because he’s a killer doesn’t mean he has no standards

[@noneya.RAHGHHGGHH.AMEIRCAAAA]

YUP

[@angrycinnabon2956]

@@staby3956 Professionals have standards.

[@valentine8409]

I also love how Harley is just like Joker's emotional support lesbian

[@KindredKay]

Underrated comment

[@nihiladest3492]

y e s

[@LangkeeLongkee]

Now we just need to bring in Pamelam😣

[@benbarltrop2006]

This

[@weilir7065]

"he needs to open his eyes and see what it feels like when you're not around"

[@oakgreenoak]

I remember watching this in theaters, and midway through the movie my mom leaned over to me and said "I'm starting to see why people on Facebook were saying this is gay." 10/10 best Batman movie ever.

[@riri89927]

This entire movie was one of my favorite movies as a kid, and it still is. They managed to add representation secretly, so secretly that my homophobic parents didn’t really notice- allowing me to watch it a couple hundred times. Also shoutout to Lego batwomen, for being one of my first crushes

[@wren_.]

same thing with kung fu panda 3. it wasn’t technically gay, but the plot point of “yknow whats cooler than one dad? TWO DADS!” gets pretty close

[@truffeltroll6668]

Bro that movie came out in 2017

[@msshrute8787]

@@truffeltroll6668 which was over 6 years ago. Im 20 now and saw this movie back when I was 14. Time flies too quickly 😭

[@truffeltroll6668]

@MsShrute not that much over 6 years, just a few days. 6 years is not that long

[@gaminganimators7000]

​@@truffeltroll6668are you debating someone's age?

[@halleberger1468]

I remember people being pissed because Robin said that he had two dads when the entire relationship with joker was right there

[@guscichoski]

@@hhjhj393 "nothing wrong with gay people" "but"

[@AshCinis]

@@hhjhj393 Wtf are you on?

[@misstoefosho]

@@hhjhj393 Those types of girls are called "fujoshi's"

[@crypticcryptid4702]

@@hhjhj393 I get people shipping two guys who are clearly friends can be annoying, but saying that it's a type of bond women can't appreciate, and one that they can't replicate, is delusional. Women are also able to have the same close friendships/ rivalhood/ sisterhood and are perfectly capable of comprehending relationships that aren't romantic, it's probably just because its less prevelent in male friendships and still not a sociatal norm for two guys to be that close that people think "if they're breaking it, they're clearly gay."

[@JF_productions5]

@@hhjhj393 woooow you got to stop doing drugs bud

[@rylee_dads_bestie69]

Remember Heath ledgers joker wore a nurse dress just to simply blow up a hospital? He didn’t have to but he did.

[@takeandbakejake3271]

Icon

[@alaysiadennis9420]

You know, somehow, that never struck me as odd. It was so in character that I never even had a moment where my brain went, "there's a man in a dress". Like I've legitimately never even acknowledged it lmao

[@gmodrules123456789]

"simply blow up a hospital" That... isn't what he did. He wore the nurse's dress to get into the hospital without alerting security. The bombs were already setup by his men, he needed to sneak in to get to Harvey before the police.

[@crazyinsider9615]

@@gmodrules123456789 he could’ve done it in a doctors coat but he went all out and dressed in a nurses gown

[@gmodrules123456789]

@@crazyinsider9615 Sure, he could've, but he didn't. Basically, I think that people are reading way too much into Nolan's choice.

[@thebiolibrary5572]

I feel like Harley, who in other continuities is in a queer, open relationship with Poison Ivy, helping Joker with his and Batman's relationship problems is kind of neat. They're also technically open, since Batman has a literal rogues gallery that Joker lists off very early on in the movie, although I guess normal reoccurring enemies are more platonic than an arch nemesis in this context, but Batman does implicitly state that it's still on a similar, less intense level to arch nemesisness. And funnily enough, Ivy is trying to help Harley get away from a toxic relationship with Joker, but here Harley is helping Joker with his toxic relationship with Batman.

[@Fazmemes357]

“I like to fight around”

[@soursaccharine]

every time i saw the joker and batman get close in the lego batman movie my mind immediately says “bro are we about to kiss?”

[@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229]

Yes! There faces were so close in that one clip! LIKE BRO- PLEASE JUST KISS ALREADY

[@delaneyfortner565]

@@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229 YESSSS LITERALLY ME

[@harlow0917]

@@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229 LITERALLY LMAO

[@computerseraph]

LITERALLY OH MY GOD

[@cokesodaa]

THEY LOOKED LIKE TEHY WERE GONNA START MAKING OUT IN A LOT Of SCENES LMRAO

[@sausageswiper6657]

Homophobic neckbeard: relates to the joker The joker: 🌈🤡💕🦇🏳️‍🌈

[@hiddensinix2767]

*We got em lads*

[@SM-xd2xv]

@KZbin Shitpost he's not an ally if he's gay himself

[@user-sf9rr7wu3f]

@KZbin Shitpost i thought joker and harley are no longer together?

[@minegagadoli]

@KZbin Shitpost Harley is dating Poison ivy now :v

[@maskeddude9892]

@KZbin Shitpost not this guy trying to apply all fucking 500 alternative realities of Batman to just a single one 🤡

[@greninjastorm6734]

I've never realized it until now, but despite the light tone of the movie, it does acknowledge Batman's trauma over losing his parents. We all know it's a core part of his backstory, but to my knowledge, it's never really been looked into quite like this Batman is afraid of having a new family because he doesn't want to lose them like he did his parents. It weighs heavily on him, and he doesn't want to go through that pain again, especially if he thinks he can prevent it

[@sxqxk1589]

My “parents” are extremely strict and homophobic. I’m surprised that they didn’t pick up on the gayness in the movie when we watched it.

[@comet.x]

because they're homophobic, they don't pick up on it. it's hilarious that homophobes and other racists and things can't actually pick up on the things they hate at all

[@nokzep8118]

but it aint gay

[@gabsnandes7818]

​@@nokzep8118is kinda gay

[@nokzep8118]

It aint. The batman has a love relationship with the Batgirl. Joker with Harley Quinn. What joker and batman has between them aint gay love , its more like funny kind of take into batman and the joker being rivals and being a such iconic duo . Thats how see it. Never thought the movie was gay

[@gabsnandes7818]

@nokzep8118 and the joke comes from the fact they behave like a shitty couple, it's really obvious that "I hate you" is a funny way to convey the same feeling as "I love you", they even hold hands, it's a play on the fact that the Joker is utterly obsessed with Batman, and they use this idea of them behaving more or less like a couple to make this dynamic funnier and more approachable, they are not a couple on the literal sense, but behave almost like one

[@sonya6191]

I’m so used to over analyzing possible gay subtext that I forget sometimes it’s in there on purpose 🤧

[@PreciousIvy]

that's how we cope unfortunately...

[@Ambir91]

Let's not forget Joaquin Phoenix's joker also had a bit of gayness spice. In a interview he said the joker had a lil bit of Frank-n-Furter from the Rocky Horror Picture Show ...

[@MrGamelover23]

@@PreciousIvy Cope with what, you being a minority? It kind of reminds me of how Christians look for Christian subtext/themes sometimes, though outside of Christian colleges I haven't seen it often, but it's something we do.

[@danicastro3616]

@@Ambir91 that's so interesting, i had no idea he said that. it makes total sense in retrospect

[@kawaiielephant7772]

@@MrGamelover23 .....

[@r.babylon2885]

"You complete me!" "You're garbage."

[@redacted5078]

My two personalities crashing

[@nadiamurray8369]

🤣

[@corpse00xx0]

The Dark Knight

[@will_pilled]

Why are most of my ships this?

[@internetexplorer6304]

Hey look it's me trying to flirt!

[@Melody_Magik]

And this is why the line "Be gay do crimes" belongs to this fandom

[@hormiga9526]

I'm SO mad because the Harley Quinn series was the perfect place to make the batjokes cannon, i mean, it would be perfect

[@nataliawarwas6117]

YES T.T

[@popflicktionedits3256]

No joke when Batman said “you mean nothing to me” and he makes that face the entire cinema said AWWWWW

[@cornycubedlaser3227]

Like, damn, bruce...😞

[@bonzupippinpaddleoxacoppil484]

Poor bean

[@AlexReynard]

How could he be so cruel to a mass murderer?

[@hollowknightfan5938]

That's nice

[@AlexReynard]

@@hollowknightfan5938 That's my secret, Cap. I'm always nice.

[@KindredKay]

"Batman won't beat joker's ass the way they want him to" oh my god that's so subtle but so perfect

[@georgie3122]

I cackled

[@Disha-kn7ym]

eheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehheheheheehehehheehheheehheheheheeheheheheheheheheehehehehehehehehehheeheheheheehehehehehehehehheehehehehehheheheehheehheehehehehheheehehehehehheheeheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheeheheheehehehehehehehehehheheheehheheheeheheheh

[@dragonarchive7443]

Joker is a bottom confirmed.

[@sadsadtearsofaclown859]

@@dragonarchive7443 oh definitely no question about it

[@vince7177]

literally-

[@heyfell4301]

Never saw Queercoding as something so positive. And it's cool that Lego Batman acknoledges this, even if unintentional, gay conotation exists since the very origins of Batman, so i just feel like there's something very sweet in a movie almost entirely based around that. Edit: btw, you completely got my subscription after your divine interpretation of Werthan's text. Love it.

[@Rissa_1322]

I feel no straight person could sincerely imagine that it's possible to convert someone to being gay. It just feels like you'd have to be in a distinctly Fitzgeraldian situation (you know where he basically said all dudes wanna sleep with other dudes and you just have to not do it) in order to convince yourself that reading a story about two men living together will cause you to fantasize about doing the same. This is hysterical.

[@gaygaygayhomosexualgay]

I can assure you the Latinoamerican spanish dub managed to made this movie somehow gayer

[@eduardvolution]

How so?

[@juliocesar899]

Man...this is because you don't watch the Brazilian dub....OHH BOY THE GAYS ARE PROUD!!

[@hmredacted2123]

why is it always the spanish dubs omg

[@aylinvasquez5362]

@@hmredacted2123 is he you know *spanish dub*??

[@imorstrash8985]

How?? Lol I'm genuinely interested, I've never seen this movie in the Spanish dub despite the fact that Spanish is my native tongue.

[@Gamemaster13000]

Queer coded? Robin straight up said he had two dad. The code's as simple as a print statement saying "I'm gay!".

[@IncorrectHB]

In the movie? I don't remember i only watched it once

[@Gamemaster13000]

@@IncorrectHB i can't recall if he said that exactly but it's definitely mentioned that he considers both Batman and Bruce Wayne to be his dad. It's been awhile since I saw it but a joke like that is very inline with all the other queer jokes in the movie.

[@choppa3358]

Yes he does!

[@qwertyCandy]

@@Gamemaster13000 He did explicitly say that - when he's all cheery because Batman took him out on a mission and he's like "I didn't have a dad and now I have two dads!" :)

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@IncorrectHB Yeah, I just watched and they joke about having more than one dad more than once.

[@justlola417]

Episodic homosexual experiences is so funny to me. The guy was literally like "yeah everyone has the gay sometimes, the problem is when you keep doing it"

[@satinizer8021]

the LEGO batman is literally the only batman movie to tackle Bruce's genuine fear and insecurities of commitment and having a family again. all the current movies are made for white cishet men who want to identify with the stone-cold, emotionless, hot vigilante who has Trauma, but doesn't show it, and who is only allowed to feel either anger or horniness. i also think that it's literally the only recent movie that even has Robin?? because if you add Robin to the mix, you WILL have to at least somehow address Bruce's feelings, and that's a big no-no, so all batman movies are basically solo + whatever chicks the writers throw at him

[@byakuyatogamistumblr5958]

"Gore, cleavage, or gay people." The title of my autobiography.

[@catherinetheegreat8742]

I do love it so much....

[@trans-spidersm1419]

Gore, cleavage, and gay people is going to be the title of my autobiography.

[@will_pilled]

Stan💅

[@hotelbellamuerte2529]

ur name and pfp just makes this so much better

[@AJHasNoBrain]

Write it, Togami

[@IDontknow-rp3vo]

I love how Harley because his sapphic best friend

[@Johnson-br2lw]

How harley because

[@anarchomando7707]

Ironically the most healthiest joker and Harley relationship And perfect for ivy

[@steampunk-llama]

Wlw mlm solidarity

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

Harley and Poison Ivy sapphic ppl 💗💗

[@anonymouslucario285]

@@papasscooperiaworker3649 what was the point of that comment?

[@itrashcant7947]

This takes "I'd pound you to a pulp" and "Start pounding Joker" to a whole nother level

[@JezElectro13]

i actually love how this rivalry is portrayed like it's a romantic relationship but with changed words to be Arch-rivarly Relationship.

[@devfre44]

“This queer threat isn’t just directed at Batman, but at the readers who fear that one day Batman won’t beat the Joker’s ass the way they want him to.” If you would excuse me I need to take a ten year nap to recover from how amazing that quote is ☺️

[@parade6271]

Ikr I laughed for a straight- I mean gay minute after hearing that

[@tripwire202]

Wait! I didn't notice that was innuendo until you pointed that out -- my asexual self is so bad at spotting subtext. Thank you for revealing it in all its punderful majesty.

[@unimear]

Wait someone send a timestamp so I can screenshot

[@devfre44]

@@unimear I gotchu 15:22

[@unimear]

@@devfre44 Thanks b

[@rabnerd28]

Having to censor qu33r in the title...that cut to close to youtube comments home.

[@haveagoodmourning]

Oh god this. Tried to explain the plot of a story I'm writing, needed a non-clunky adjective umbrella term for the LGBT+ community, used the term qu33r. Whole huge long paragraphs of explanation got deleted. 1) I am literally gay 2) Again, I am literally gay 3) This was in the qu33rest, most leftist comment section imaginable Also, tried to say I was gay in a livestream chat and that got deleted too. Just the word "gay" was apparently cause for deletion lmao. And it wasn't the person livestreaming who did it, because when I finally got around the filters and explained what had happened, they reacted with surprised irritation @ youtube.

[@rabnerd28]

@@haveagoodmourning I made a video on wanting a character to be Bi, and someone commented about qu33rbaiting and when I went to go look at it, it was gone. Like, thanks youtube, I wanted to read that.

[@WobblesandBean]

@@rabnerd28 It's getting worse. They'll delete comments just for having animal names in them, because in one specific, rarely used context, those animal names are sometimes used as mild insults. It's gobsmacking.

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@haveagoodmourning Can you share the plot of whatever story you were talking about?

[@WobblesandBean]

@@haveagoodmourning Yeah, I wanna hear about this too!

[@Josh-ez5hf]

I don't understand how the joker being gay is detrimental. I don't see gay people as being bad if he is gay. I actually think that adds another layer to his character and relationship to Batman.

[@Natasha_d13]

I know it’s been over a year since this video came out, but I wanted to say that this has become a bit of a comfort video for me. I’m not sure why, but I keep coming back to it. I recently discovered some of my friends have never seen this movie but I am determined to fix that soon! The world needs more gay Lego

[@thedeliveryboy1123]

Also there's a part where Robin thinks that he has "two" dads: Bruce Wayne and Batman. I think this means that he was assuming that Bruce Wayne was dating Batman and was completely fine with it and that's just adorable

[@convolutedconvex]

Ikr 🥺

[@badposture4968]

He’s adorable

[@therealopaartist]

"I HAVE TWO DADS"- Robin being adorable

[@asianaxeprincess]

robin best boy

[@enti]

The Robin from this movie is adorable AF

[@asterolivine5367]

Honestly Harley being Jokers emotionally wise lesbian friend is their best dynamic

[@treasuremage7546]

WTF are you all talking? If Harley was emotionally wise she wouldn't have gotten involved with him in the first place. The only dynamic that's ever been between them is Harley THINKING she's a hotshot psychologist that could get to the root of his issues, and Joker exploiting this to turn her into an emotional punching bag.

[@lunab541]

@@treasuremage7546 Lego Batman. That's what they are talking about

[@di7209]

Treasure Mage Thyere referring to lego batman in particular where the lore is wildly different

[@zinmayoo6800]

@@treasuremage7546 LEGO BATMAN is not serious comic geek!

[@ambarperez7420]

@@treasuremage7546 🤨?

[@HelloTrandler]

I legit keep reading the title as “submissive”. I need sleep

[@celinavarchausky5333]

This is my comfort video essay

[@DriftPiss9000]

I think you'll like this video essay called "we could be queeroes"

[@kingsaracoon9594]

ME AND YOU

[@lyrablack8621]

@@kingsaracoon9594 thank you

[@Vivigreeny25]

I read "queerios" ohmygod-

[@jamiecasimir5040]

link 👉👈

[@jamiecasimir5040]

Nvm found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWjPhX5nqb2rgtE

[@reyveneditsqueen119]

This whole movie was a gay disaster but my grandma still said ahhh they seem like good friends 😂😂😂

[@RegstarRogstar]

Amazing lmfaooooooo

[@haveagoodmourning]

Historians be like

[@reyveneditsqueen119]

@@haveagoodmourning they were very close friends

[@DuskyPredator]

Oh my god, they were nemeses.

[@vecna2101]

Is your grandma a historian?

[@theiammike123]

"Here's a cool little seal on the cover of your comic that promises parents you aren't gonna poison their children's minds with gore, cleavage, _or gay people_ ." 😆😂😭

[@Gerald22222]

No matter what you think you have to admit that Batman should not be in a relationship with batgirl that’s just weird like my lord why

[@Sara-uq6km]

Joker at the end of lego batman gives me “i confessed my feelings and my queerness to my straight crush and he still treats me nice and it’s weird because i’m used to be seen as a monster and predator but i’m just a normal human allowed to feel and that is new for me” vibes, idk why just me?

[@theunluckypotato1484]

Same

[@redballoon9007]

Batman in LEGO Batman ain’t straight tho- He was just SO FAR IN THE CLOSET-

[@Sara-uq6km]

@@redballoon9007 true true

[@braden_m]

@@Sara-uq6km and @Red Balloon somehow both of these takes are the most accurate things I've ever heard and I can't choose between them so good effing job

[@Sara-uq6km]

@@braden_m i am very happy to have enriched your Lego Batman interpretation

[@bailey9707]

you had me at "episodic homosexual experiences"

[@FunnyFany]

The Owl House (2020)

[@zacharyragland3365]

Had me at "Fun"

[@philiphunt-bull5817]

@@FunnyFany is that the show's tagline?

[@FunnyFany]

@@philiphunt-bull5817 well, no, because the main character is bisexual.

[@ilkay3050]

8:02 for some reason, now, i really have the urge to make a comic book that violates every single point on that list

[@porciwall9261]

Pokes you with stick of encouragement

[@yurisuzuki9129]

I love how batman and joker had to hold hands to save the city

[@aidanb6882]

Jokes on them, now bat woman is the gay one

[@anarchomando7707]

She also confirms that Batman is Jewish (at least not practicing) As she's Jewish on his mother's side

[@dededeletethis9940]

Batwoman was created to show that batman wasn't gay, only to become a lesbian herself. Ironic.

[@anarchomando7707]

@@dededeletethis9940 I wouldn't be surprised if that was the intention

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

Also the fact he acts like a man child is true for batman as well. Batman lost his parents as a child and hes stuck there. He ignores his feelings by dressing up as a bat and beating up homeless crazy people. Batman puts up a front to look cool but hes incapable of handling his emotions and reacts how he does. He is a manchild and this movie was just very blatant about it

[@teaganwillier-lauck638]

I like how they made it accurate to real psychology and how the mind sticks into the same age the trauma happened at.

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

Omfg underrated comment 🤣💕💕💕💕

[@cookiecat7759]

@@teaganwillier-lauck638 i know right!

[@elfsieben1450]

So was "The Batman"; but thankfully in both movies Bruce/Batman has a bit of an arc and takes an important step towards maturity. Gotta love that.

[@jinx5673]

@@elfsieben1450 tbh, that’s not how Batman is as a character. Batman isn’t the mask, Bruce is.

[@ITF_Jeezus]

I love that you acknowledge that there are multiple opinions to be had on the Batman-Joker dynamic. I agree fully that it's great that there is variety, I can love my dark Batman stories and you can love the happy and positive ones. Those two aren't mutually exclusive :3

[@keona5560]

15:58 I've watched this video so many times I've started mouthing and muttering some of the lines along with it, I only caught myself just now when you went "and finally now were back to L e G o B a T m A n ! ¡ !"

[@The_Sin_Squad]

This comment totally made my week. Thanks so much for watching!!

[@keona5560]

@@The_Sin_Squad omg I'm happy to have made your week, I love this video very much😭

[@Billisse]

i remember this movie made me cry and my friends never let me live it down

[@snip_adip_tip_pip1526]

OMG SAME

[@finch8703]

My Mom cried in Shrek the Musical it's not that bad-

[@viii9390]

my dad cried at this movie too lmao

[@whyiamafs]

I don't blame you (You deserve better friends - they really shouldn't either)

[@eyeball_freak]

I think I cried to honestly

[@serena8942]

My mom: almost bans us from seeing the live action beauty and the beast in theaters because she heard there was *-GAY-* in it Also my mom: let’s my lil bro watch the lego Batman movie 24/7 on repeat with no questions asked...

[@Roadent1241]

She doesn't realise there's like 10% gay in the new BatB compared to the, what 90+% in LB?

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

Just wash your hands after watching the movie then you won’t catch the gay.

[@neksnek2032]

The str8s can't detect subtext for shit

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

@@neksnek2032 a-ha! I will be able to make my dad watch Hannibal then! He won’t be able to see the strong subtext between Hannibal and Will (I’m not even joking at this point, I think he probably wouldn’t see it).

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@HiBuddyyyyyy tbh my dad could watch our flag means deth, she ra, and hannibal all in a row and go "wow what a beautiful friendship"

[@westernjapanesecowboy5523]

This is the first video I’ve ever seen from you and, oh my goodness, this is one of the best analysis videos I’ve ever seen. At first I was expecting a causal, semi professional video talking about a semi popular subject, something I’d say Is fairly common on KZbin. With your voice i expected that much. But I wasn’t expecting the twist in tone with the segue at 4:28 . At that point, and after you read the seduction of the innocent paragraph, I simply had to finish the video. You piped my interest so quickly that I almost rushed to make this comment. But I finished the video first, and this video is stellar; it’s a good combination of humor and charisma with semi-professionalism. Overall, I’m glad I watched this video, I really want to see what else you’ve made. Good work!

[@The_Sin_Squad]

This comment made my day!! Thank you so much

[@BeanieBabyXx]

The fact that the lego batman movie feels much better than an actual batman film says a lot

[@Q-lyme]

YES FINALLY GAY LEGOS

[@user-tq3lp5in5o]

Indeed

[@sailordsun676]

YES

[@Junebug0369]

FUCK YEAH

[@henrycrabs3497]

Gaygos

[@sketchycat6223]

@@henrycrabs3497 gaygo my legos

[@theflickchick9850]

“Joker represents a homophobe’s worst nightmare,” That legit made me like the Joker even more. That’s such a neat concept.

[@anarchomando7707]

And he would probably put on that front as a joke I actively see him being straight but acting gay as hell just to fuck with people

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@anarchomando7707 yeah lol a straight joker making people think he’s gay is challenging homophobes, which is ironically good 😂

[@four-en-tee]

@@anarchomando7707 It's so in-character that it's almost scary.

[@technicolorbarf6734]

Thats why he is still one of my fav characters even after being memed to death

[@darkmatter1721]

Joker would beat the shit out of a gay guy and tell him that “it’s not because your gay, it’s because you fucking scratched my car”

[@SignedGraph499]

What is queer? So far no one has given me a straight answer.

[@ScorpionClaws789]

An umbrella term for someone who is not cisgender or heterosexual/romantic

[@SignedGraph499]

thank you for explaining but it was a non offensive joke :)

[@SignedGraph499]

I hope it was non offensive. Sorry if it is.

[@ScorpionClaws789]

@@SignedGraph499 Oh shit, I just got it-

[@thegoldenminion8088]

even the most iconic batman voice kevin conroy (RIP) was gay! crazy how gay i never knew batman was

[@Justice1Knight3]

"By the time the 50s rolled around, parents had started to grow weary of comic books the same way the parents of today are weary of video games. People were concerned that comics caused junevile delinquency." History has a funny way of repeating itself, doesn't it?

[@lpsloveandgame6046]

Of course, people used to say the same thing about books. Yes, plain old books.

[@theotherjared9824]

There are ancient records dating to back to Babylonian times showing that people were complaining that the new concept of the written word would foster laziness among children.

[@hxlium3948]

@@theotherjared9824 Y... you can’t be-omg can I please have a source? I wanna read about this omg-

[@theotherjared9824]

@@hxlium3948 I don't remember exactly where I found it, but I think you can find it with a little bit of searching.

[@PolyChromium]

@@hxlium3948 I think it was actually Plato who said that

[@FranK-tg7ou]

I hope the Robert Patterson movie is the perfect blend of depressed batman and gay batman

[@doriangrayapologist]

knowing the harbinger of chaos that is pattinson, i think he’d make it work

[@someonewithaphone3108]

A depressed gay batman? That would be the most relatable batman yet

[@booklover8081]

@@someonewithaphone3108 I usually don’t like watching Batman, but if that’s the direction the movies go in, I’ll watch it a million times.

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Dope va11 hall-a pfp!

[@sketchycat6223]

He’ll be perfect

[@SpeedyCheetahCub]

I think my favorite Joker-Harley dynamic was this one fan work I read where Joker and Harley were both bisexual disasters who started out with a romantic fling but quickly became besties instead. Then the two of them commiserate over their love lives while also being literal partners-in-crime and running their own gang together. It was really cool because it framed them as equals and there was no abuse from either of them. Also, in the story, Ivy was their weed dealer and that eventually led to her and Harley dating, and then the two of them helped Joker get Batman's attention. It was really fun!

[@waxeater118]

batman if it was epic

[@williamstark9568]

I kind of liked the fact Batman gained every kind of relationship EXCEPT romantic ones. It tied back to a book I read where the tenor of a nemesis based relationship (like Batman has with joker) being compared to a romantic one. The similarities were hilarious. You do kind of go out of dates with your nemesis. You often exchange a lot of banter. Ie, conversations and a form of a bond takes place. It was just that when the nemesis broke up in the book it was a case of "Victor, I think we should try to kill other people." And trying to roast Victor alive one last time before going off to nemesis other people. Considering I rather like the asexual interpretation of batman I shall continue to roll with it.

[@crackle6875]

Do you remember the book’s name?

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Como doofenshmirtz y perry the platypus

[@madamemystery4256]

Book name please

[@yukarilolz]

​@@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511yes exactly like that one episode where doof breaks up with perry lmao

[@arthurdias6860]

@@yukarilolzwhen perry finds out he cheated on him

[@dollspine]

bro.... batman and joker had an enemies to lovers moment

[@brakpak]

more like enemies to..... uhh....."enemies ;3"

[@anarchomando7707]

@@brakpak but Then we don't get two furry bondage fetishists jumping of acrossed and a giant game of cat and mouse That's what Batman and Catwoman are She even has the wip I'm sorry but standard *gay* is not enough for me (Also any joker besides silver age joker Would be extremely abusive, (silver age I honestly think is the least deadly but most creative) I can't leave my favorite superhero with him I'm okay with him being shipped with Superman at the very *least* He ain't going to be killed by laughing gas or some other stupid contraption)

[@brakpak]

@@anarchomando7707 but its legos my dude putting bondage fetishists and toxic relationships in the legos would be really....... weird

[@kittypetrockxd7945]

enemies (derogatory) to enemies (affectionate)

[@lemonzurker9739]

The idea of batman making kids gay was extremely hilarious to me. Straight people crack me up.

[@Av1t3o]

never thought I would ever hear that sentence but here we are

[@savageshot3723]

Do any gay people crack you up?

[@lemonzurker9739]

@@savageshot3723 Is John Mulaney gay?

[@fumbly_figs2301]

@Lemonzurker Unfortunately he’s not :(

[@lord_ozymandias]

@@lemonzurker9739 no he’s het :(

[@lonelychild32]

The second I saw Lego batman, I immediately knew that it captured the relationships of batman best, not only with joker but also with robin. It immediately became my favorite batman movie and this video makes me want to rewatch it now.

[@Milkyway_tism]

I'm not even lying my father genuinely asked me if they were going to kiss in the movie

[@2if_GD]

I don't blame him lol

[@renn_goat2746]

I always loved to think Joker and Harley were those gay pals that every straight person thought were dating but actually have their own lovers; Harley most likely being Ivy, and Joker's being Batman/Bruce.

[@kayundae4411]

I’d take that over an extremely abusive relationship depiction any day. I like how most media is now acknowledging how bad the Joker/Harley relationship is, but man, I love this spin on their relationship and want more of it.

[@greenybeeny7139]

wlw and mlm solidarity

[@dabi410]

But they can only meet when Bruce is dressed as Batman, so during the day, Bruce is constantly having to look over his shoulder in case he has to pull a Peter Parker and just yeet out the window in his bat man suit

[@bonzeye1916]

Stop this damn heresy

[@maldon3659]

I don't ship Joker and Batman mostly because I don't ship arch-enemies, it would be like shipping Captain America and Red Skull or Mr Fantastic and Dr Doom, plus it sounds like a toxic relationship just waiting to happen

[@pharoahcaraboo9610]

saw this with some friends when it came out, walked out immediately going 'yeah that was super gay'

[@Theartisticyoshi]

Same with me and my friends, even our parents knew something was up haha

[@ya-like-jazz]

i read this as "saw this with some friends when *i* came out"

[@omao4938]

@@Theartisticyoshi My parents knew it was gay af but because homophobia they just laughed it off

[@extracub1974]

-Mary- how is that even homophobia?

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

@@extracub1974 probably awkard laughing or they thought the gay stuff was supposed to be mocked at

[@kai_fatallysapphic]

8:53 but gore, cleavage and gay people are my 3 favorite things! 😭

[@sagesager7584]

literally just homestuck kismesism and im here for it lol

[@aceofspades138]

I was waiting for someone to mention it!

[@donnamitsuki281]

And Harley is probably dating Poison Ivy. So in this movie they're _Gay + Lesbian Friends Supremacy._ And I adore it so much.

[@treasuremage7546]

That's also fucking stupid. Ivy isn't dating her because Ivy wouldn't date anyone that isn't a tomato. She's radical plant supremacist that wants ALL people dead.

[@redballoon9007]

@@treasuremage7546 Tell that to comics and to the show “Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy”, Buddy.

[@treasuremage7546]

@@redballoon9007 I write them a letter about it every week.

[@redballoon9007]

@@treasuremage7546 Hey. Maybe you should, I don’t know, let it be?

[@treasuremage7546]

@@redballoon9007 With great power comes great responsibility.

[@dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz7392]

Wow! If i had a nickel for everytime Joker told Catwoman he loves Batman, i'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

[@karmawillcollect6092]

he did it-

[@TheSuicidalGiraffe]

No, the Joker's persona has been redesigned to be obsessed with Batman.

[@Mysticgamer]

Yes, but not for the joker.

[@thealmightycrisprat]

doofenschmirtz evil incorporateeeeed

[@gabsnandes7818]

​@@TheSuicidalGiraffefor decades tbh lol

[@oswaldfriedman7116]

I have a friend that was making a comic inspired by batman, including a joker-esque villain. When I was reading it and we were talking about the character’s obsession, I asked if the villain was lovesick for the hero. They thought about it and said that makes sense.

[@christianizaguirre9934]

NO WAY HARLEYS HAIR WENT POOF 3:25 not to mention she looked exited when joker spoke to batman

[@joshm977]

Id just like to point out that because this is in the lego movie world this is all being made up by a kid, so it makes it seem like this kid might be gay and just wants to see his favorite characters be like him

[@anarchomando7707]

I like this interpretation even better

[@katem3329]

Oh my gosh that's so cute uwu

[@sailorquestion3229]

Isn't that only established in the lego movie? It is still possible, but not confirmed.

[@katem3329]

@@sailorquestion3229 I mean, yeah, but the lego batman movie technically takes place in the same universe as the lego movie, or at least according to the reference from the sequel

[@joshm977]

Sailor Question well batman is in both them and he seems to be the same character. Maybe it’s dumb but i just thought it was wholesome

[@Montesama314]

I love Harley bring Joker's supportive friend helping her bro through a breakup. How often have they EVER represented a mutually beneficial relationship?

[@truffeltroll6668]

It's kinda weird because it ignores her entire backstory

[@notchococookie]

@@truffeltroll6668lego universe

[@truffeltroll6668]

@@notchococookie is her backstory different?

[@slavishentity6705]

@@truffeltroll6668 It's a parody. Not everything has to be the same as it normally is.

[@truffeltroll6668]

@♀️ slavish entity ♀️ let's make a spiderman movie, but turn him into something completely different. Don't get me wrong, but the breakup is a very important part of healthy relationship and boundaries representation and Harley is important Bi rep

[@stephanieedgar6308]

Alfred was the best character in the Lego Batman movie. I love how he acts like he's Bruce's grandpa. I love how he seems to know more than he lets on about some stuff. Best character in the movie 10/10!

[@That0neCrow]

"The readers who fear batman won't beat the jokers ass in the way they want him too" HAD ME WHEEZING-

[@hereandthere8157]

The way I like joker being a bit more queer than Batman, is that he is in love with the idea of Batman not Bruce Wayne, i always digged that. It’s almost certain that it wouldn’t work out not because Batman is too straight, but he isn’t just Batman. This relationship goes beyond their orientation but their identity as well. I loved the idea of joker never existing because Batman didn’t. They are forever going to be made for each other but will never be together. In that sense, it is forbidden love and that’s something I like in romance sometimes.

[@abimaellopezmaylord27lopez7]

Just like Catwoman

[@AlexReynard]

This is like the 80th comment I've read on this page that makes absolutely no mention whatsoever that the reason Batman doesn't like the Joker is that the Joker murders innocent people.

[@tillycomedy2194]

@@AlexReynard bro ur so right 😂

[@MalikProductionsMax]

@@AlexReynard and also the fact that he has also brutally murdered one of his adopted sons.

[@amiable_monster]

Well Joker called himself and Batman "star-crossed" in Arkham Knight so...he acknowledge this

[@matti.8465]

What makes the "You had me at shut up" thing so great is that earlier they SHOW the exact movie scene they're referencing, so everyone can understand the romantic implications of that dialogue.

[@qwertyCandy]

AND that they show that romantic comedies are Batman's guilty pleasure, and Joker knows this, therefore he knows that Batman will get what he's saying here :)

[@neothepenguin1257]

Love the pfp

[@laurelsilberman5705]

I loved your line about how, “Far from his homoerotic roots, Batman has become the ultimate Straight power fantasy.” Wild how far we’ve come.

[@banananananananananananana.]

I didn't even know how gay this movie was when I saw it when I was younger, I thought it was a joke. Now I've realized im bisexual, and I'm constantly rooting for them to kiss.

[@finnianramsey4634]

Ew bruh, its a relationship about them hating each other.

[@banananananananananananana.]

@@finnianramsey4634 did you watch the video?

[@idontwanthishandle]

@@finnianramsey4634 ever heard of a cool webcomic

[@robonthecob6920]

I expected a simple explanation of how Batman and the Joker are “gay” in The Lego Batman Movie for the sake of minor social commentary, but instead I got an extremely intelligent and well-edited exploration of the queer coding that existed throughout the entirety of the Batman mythos, and how it came to define aspects of its characters. Great video, keep up the good work.

[@normalhuman9878]

Yeah I clicked expecting to make an angry comment about how many Batman villains have long been queer coded, including a comic where Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy were married

[@dula6693]

@@normalhuman9878 WHAT COMIC IS THAT

[@Dovah_Slayer]

@@normalhuman9878 why? Who cares if Harley is gay

[@Dovah_Slayer]

@@dula6693 a lot of comics actually mostly modern where we are less collective bigots

[@treycie_skramz]

@@Dovah_Slayer i think they were excited for representation

[@The_Dragon_Boi]

Imagine being so homophobic you try to boycott the lego batman movie because it’s “pro-gay propaganda” lmao

[@MomoKanjaki]

lol Ikr.

[@soyjoyy]

Homophobes boycotted the film, and it still became an box office success. Well, too bad for them I guess

[@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11]

Nobody is gay, and its not queer coding, its more of a submissive bro code, google it

[@kwowka]

@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11… can I have a tone tag on this (insert Garfield are you /j or /srs meme)

[@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11]

@@kwowka wha?

[@richardavelino7383]

11:38 straight power fantasy? You saying gay bois cant have power fantasies?

[@dhllyyquit]

Nonono

[@Spider-Man_234]

Batman tbh is the ultimate gay power fantasy. Per Grant Morrison again in that same quote “all these women dress in fetish wear to get to him, and he doesn’t care. He just wants to hang out with the old man and the kid.”

[@r3ntz699]

“Comic publishers dni list” is the funniest way to put it