Lego Batman's Subversive Queercoding

[@tamayako2000]

Batman really said "no homo" for like 20 years huh

[@privatehere3324]

Well with far right groups accusing him of being gay and causing deliquency among children he kind of had to.

[@kstar1489]

@@ztancomfort187 yes that happened, did you watch the video?

[@ztancomfort187]

@@kstar1489 lol i read the comment wrong

[@kstar1489]

@@ztancomfort187 ah, lol

[@celisewillis]

Batman debuted on March 30, 1939, so maybe more like 80+ years lol

[@KindredKay]

"Batman won't beat joker's ass the way they want him to" oh my god that's so subtle but so perfect

[@georgie3122]

I cackled

[@Disha-kn7ym]

eheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehheheheheehehehheehheheehheheheheeheheheheheheheheehehehehehehehehehheeheheheheehehehehehehehehheehehehehehheheheehheehheehehehehheheehehehehehheheeheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheeheheheehehehehehehehehehheheheehheheheeheheheh

[@dragonarchive7443]

Joker is a bottom confirmed.

[@sadsadtearsofaclown859]

@@dragonarchive7443 oh definitely no question about it

[@vince7177]

literally-

[@hamhamson7740]

A man has fallen for a man in lego city

[@four-en-tee]

HEY

[@lucaswoods1725]

I like ya meme G

[@robynrunestone2533]

@4nt *Gay

[@Starrii_Skies]

I can’t see me loving nobody but you

[@icanandwillscreamifimnotgi3945]

Amazing. Phenomenal. Made me smile. Drastically improved my day //g ❤❤😷

[@dream_walker9726]

THEY LITERALLY HELD HANDS TO SAVE GOTHAM WHAT MORE DO WE NEED

[@SmokeyChipOatley]

I told myself I wouldn’t cry… 🥺🥹😭😢😐😑😭😭😭😭

[@leaf3lf57]

THEY HELD _BOTH_ HANDS

[@dream_walker9726]

@@leaf3lf57 EXACTLY

[@popflicktionedits3256]

No joke when Batman said “you mean nothing to me” and he makes that face the entire cinema said AWWWWW

[@cornycubedlaser3227]

Like, damn, bruce...😞

[@bonzupippinpaddleoxacoppil484]

Poor bean

[@AlexReynard]

How could he be so cruel to a mass murderer?

[@hollowknightfan5938]

That's nice

[@AlexReynard]

@@hollowknightfan5938 That's my secret, Cap. I'm always nice.

[@halleberger1468]

I remember people being pissed because Robin said that he had two dads when the entire relationship with joker was right there

[@AshCinis]

@@hhjhj393 Wtf are you on?

[@misstoefosho]

@@hhjhj393 Those types of girls are called "fujoshi's"

[@crypticcryptid4702]

@@hhjhj393 I get people shipping two guys who are clearly friends can be annoying, but saying that it's a type of bond women can't appreciate, and one that they can't replicate, is delusional. Women are also able to have the same close friendships/ rivalhood/ sisterhood and are perfectly capable of comprehending relationships that aren't romantic, it's probably just because its less prevelent in male friendships and still not a sociatal norm for two guys to be that close that people think "if they're breaking it, they're clearly gay."

[@Jf_productions556]

@@hhjhj393 woooow you got to stop doing drugs bud

[@XxPanda6]

@hhjhj someone chose violence today sheesh And you are right fetishizing mlm couples isnt support but actually harming to actual gay couples And mostly women do it too. Like Men cant be friends or be touchy without being called gay in our society Like joker said we live in a society

[@bailey9707]

you had me at "episodic homosexual experiences"

[@FunnyFany]

The Owl House (2020)

[@zacharyragland3365]

Had me at "Fun"

[@philiphunt-bull5817]

@@FunnyFany is that the show's tagline?

[@FunnyFany]

@@philiphunt-bull5817 well, no, because the main character is bisexual.

[@Ella-pr9cc]

I think my favorite queer thing in this whole movie, is the fact that Dick goes the entire movie until the end thinking that Batman and Bruce Wayne are a couple and that he has two dads.

[@greninjastorm6734]

I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, THAT'S SO WHOLESOME

[@LanceLee-dh5pc]

Uh no, he just assumed they would share being dads. This isn't coding to Batman and Bruce Wayne being a thing, that's just plain delusional

[@zingiberaceae]

​@@LanceLee-dh5pcYou're right it's not coding. But Dick did think he had two dads for most of the movie, which is gay.

[@pixelzebra8440]

WAIT LMAOOO

[@pixelzebra8440]

@@LanceLee-dh5pc “share being dads” isn’t gay? 💀

[@CleaverCrusader1987]

Kids: Start liking a thing Parents: Hmmm yes, this is bad and will turn my child into a criminal

[@nwut]

do you think gay people are bad because they arent

[@CleaverCrusader1987]

​@@nwutI do not think gay people are bad, why do you ask?

[@nwut]

@@CleaverCrusader1987 sorry i misunderstood what you said

[@CleaverCrusader1987]

@@nwut It's alright, it happens to everyone

[@freshmilk7122]

Wow. When I first read the reply I thought a full blown war would break out but :):):):):)

[@IDontknow-rp3vo]

I love how Harley because his sapphic best friend

[@Johnson-br2lw]

How harley because

[@anarchomando7707]

Ironically the most healthiest joker and Harley relationship And perfect for ivy

[@steampunk-llama]

Wlw mlm solidarity

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

Harley and Poison Ivy sapphic ppl 💗💗

[@anonymouslucario285]

@@papasscooperiaworker3649 what was the point of that comment?

[@Billisse]

i remember this movie made me cry and my friends never let me live it down

[@snip_adip_tip_pip1526]

OMG SAME

[@finch8703]

My Mom cried in Shrek the Musical it's not that bad-

[@viii9390]

my dad cried at this movie too lmao

[@whyiamafs]

I don't blame you (You deserve better friends - they really shouldn't either)

[@eyeball_freak]

I think I cried to honestly

[@monikorasort]

Love how all the other villains are emotionally supporting Joker in his romantic dilemma with Batman. Harley telling him that Batman will realize how much he needs Joker, the whole group being there for Joker to confess his “hatred” and booing Batman when he doesn’t reciprocate. He has the friend group we all need

[@HarleyWithJoker]

No fr tho Harley is surprisingly chill about this weird polyamorous relationship. *I played the Batman choice story, so yeah. I know things* 😃😎

[@safegourd]

@@HarleyWithJokerThey’re not polyamorous in the Lego Batman Movie though. Joker explicitly refers to Harley Quinn as his girl buddy. (In other universes, I’m sure that dynamic is explored - just not in lego batman!)

[@lucilleballs2291]

[@sv32099]

​@@HarleyWithJokerHarley seemed to be more like a supportive friend in this film than an actual love (or hate) interest

[@HarleyWithJoker]

@@sv32099 ik

[@trashcat9366]

A JOKER HAS FALLEN FOR A BATMAN IN GOTHAM CITY!

[@jordanwait7264]

LOL

[@Siennarchist]

Godamnit

[@goosegoose8345]

@@Siennarchist uhhhhhh

[@scottishmrmonopoly6832]

Get the batcopter

[@tomimated1638]

Hey! Build the conversion camp, use unethical force, and maintain the status quo, in lego city!

[@thedeliveryboy1123]

Also there's a part where Robin thinks that he has "two" dads: Bruce Wayne and Batman. I think this means that he was assuming that Bruce Wayne was dating Batman and was completely fine with it and that's just adorable

[@convolutedconvex]

Ikr 🥺

[@badposture4968]

He’s adorable

[@therealopaartist]

"I HAVE TWO DADS"- Robin being adorable

[@asianaxeprincess]

robin best boy

[@enti]

The Robin from this movie is adorable AF

[@matti.8465]

What makes the "You had me at shut up" thing so great is that earlier they SHOW the exact movie scene they're referencing, so everyone can understand the romantic implications of that dialogue.

[@qwertyCandy]

AND that they show that romantic comedies are Batman's guilty pleasure, and Joker knows this, therefore he knows that Batman will get what he's saying here :)

[@neothepenguin1257]

Love the pfp

[@charsiuwu8084]

Lego Batman is the pinnacle of "Be Gay, Do Crime" but instead of hatred it's unfiltered joy.

[@soursaccharine]

every time i saw the joker and batman get close in the lego batman movie my mind immediately says “bro are we about to kiss?”

[@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229]

Yes! There faces were so close in that one clip! LIKE BRO- PLEASE JUST KISS ALREADY

[@delaneyfortner565]

@@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229 YESSSS LITERALLY ME

[@harlow0917]

@@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229 LITERALLY LMAO

[@N1GHTR4BB1T]

LITERALLY OH MY GOD

[@cokesodaa]

THEY LOOKED LIKE TEHY WERE GONNA START MAKING OUT IN A LOT Of SCENES LMRAO

[@ef1876]

This is great but nowhere near as great as “Batman lives in Bruce Wayne’s basement??” “No Bruce Wayne lives In Batman’s attic”

[@nesconcen3427]

When she mentioned the humor i expected exactly to hear that.

[@lssmble]

i just realized what the joke was oMGGGGG

[@taylorrayner1394]

They were roommates

[@ruby.6754]

@@lssmble what’s the joke

[@alteregobruh]

@@ruby.6754 Bruce Wayne is Batman. they live in the same house bc they’re the same guy. That’s it.

[@r.babylon2885]

"You complete me!" "You're garbage."

[@redacted5078]

My two personalities crashing

[@nadiamurray8369]

🤣

[@corpse00xx0]

The Dark Knight

[@will_pilled]

Why are most of my ships this?

[@mslightbulb]

“We can be garbage together, relationship goals!”

[@danjlp9155]

"You had me at shut up" is pure genius. Oh my god the dialogue in this movie is so good

[@rabnerd28]

Having to censor qu33r in the title...that cut to close to youtube comments home.

[@haveagoodmourning]

Oh god this. Tried to explain the plot of a story I'm writing, needed a non-clunky adjective umbrella term for the LGBT+ community, used the term qu33r. Whole huge long paragraphs of explanation got deleted. 1) I am literally gay 2) Again, I am literally gay 3) This was in the qu33rest, most leftist comment section imaginable Also, tried to say I was gay in a livestream chat and that got deleted too. Just the word "gay" was apparently cause for deletion lmao. And it wasn't the person livestreaming who did it, because when I finally got around the filters and explained what had happened, they reacted with surprised irritation @ youtube.

[@rabnerd28]

@@haveagoodmourning I made a video on wanting a character to be Bi, and someone commented about qu33rbaiting and when I went to go look at it, it was gone. Like, thanks youtube, I wanted to read that.

[@WobblesandBean]

@@rabnerd28 It's getting worse. They'll delete comments just for having animal names in them, because in one specific, rarely used context, those animal names are sometimes used as mild insults. It's gobsmacking.

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@haveagoodmourning Can you share the plot of whatever story you were talking about?

[@WobblesandBean]

@@haveagoodmourning Yeah, I wanna hear about this too!

[@pharoahcaraboo9610]

saw this with some friends when it came out, walked out immediately going 'yeah that was super gay'

[@Theartisticyoshi]

Same with me and my friends, even our parents knew something was up haha

[@ya-like-jazz]

i read this as "saw this with some friends when *i* came out"

[@omao4938]

@@Theartisticyoshi My parents knew it was gay af but because homophobia they just laughed it off

[@extracub1974]

-Mary- how is that even homophobia?

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

@@extracub1974 probably awkard laughing or they thought the gay stuff was supposed to be mocked at

[@Peku_G]

Artists with their OC's nowadays: *Yes, more gay.* Artists with their OC's back then: *Yes, more gay.*

[@absolutefuckingchaos3785]

No one can contain the *gay*

[@Denturess]

What else hasn’t changed us the voice of the opinionated telling you “you can’t make a gay character!!” Sure it’s for different reasons now but man they’re still there.

[@lyrisio]

Everyone is making each character in their fan-fiction be gay or incest.

[@skullcidd]

@@lyrisio im sorry gay or WHAT ? 😀

[@bald_lightning]

@@lyrisio I’m sorry what?

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

While the hypermasculine aspects of Batman are absolutely present and often a problem, I find that a lot of the most compelling Batman stories are ones that accurately explore how Batman is harmed by his over-reliance on that masculinity. The violence, the lack of emotion, the need to do everything himself, these are inherently tragic character flaws when written well. The very best Batman stories are ones where we see Batman actively struggle with these, much to the worry of his father-figure, Alfred.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

*never a problem Hypermasculinity is cool

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 | Between your account's name and this comment, I'm assuming you're trapped in a well of recursive irony, right?

[@isapu1948]

There was one episode of Batman The Animated Series where Batman and Robin stumbled on an alias that refers to the man who killed Robin's parents (that Robin didn't know about) Instead of expressing himself, Batman refused to let Robin in on what what going on, shutting down any questions and insisted on dealing with this by himself He wound up with an injured leg and might have died if it wasn't for Robin's stubbornness. Very much a proof of what you said.

[@hey_loud]

Masculinity isn’t a bad thing, weak men make the world worse and gayer.

[@yukarilolz]

​@@isapu1948 i actually watched that series not too long ago, and to an extent i agree but that episode didn't really address the problems in any meaningful way. It felt more like a character reveal than showing his problems 'aww batman does care for robin' Tbqh i think 2003 teen titans robin works better as a self destructive self reliant character than the batman animated series batman

[@renn_goat2746]

I always loved to think Joker and Harley were those gay pals that every straight person thought were dating but actually have their own lovers; Harley most likely being Ivy, and Joker's being Batman/Bruce.

[@kayundae4411]

I’d take that over an extremely abusive relationship depiction any day. I like how most media is now acknowledging how bad the Joker/Harley relationship is, but man, I love this spin on their relationship and want more of it.

[@greenybeeny7139]

wlw and mlm solidarity

[@dabi410]

But they can only meet when Bruce is dressed as Batman, so during the day, Bruce is constantly having to look over his shoulder in case he has to pull a Peter Parker and just yeet out the window in his bat man suit

[@bonzeye1916]

Stop this damn heresy

[@maldon3659]

I don't ship Joker and Batman mostly because I don't ship arch-enemies, it would be like shipping Captain America and Red Skull or Mr Fantastic and Dr Doom, plus it sounds like a toxic relationship just waiting to happen

[@Eymologymentality]

"Gore, cleavage, or gay people." The title of my autobiography.

[@catherinetheegreat8742]

I do love it so much....

[@trans-spidersm1419]

Gore, cleavage, and gay people is going to be the title of my autobiography.

[@will_pilled]

Stan💅

[@hotelbellamuerte2529]

ur name and pfp just makes this so much better

[@AJHasNoBrain]

Write it, Togami

[@Sara-uq6km]

Joker at the end of lego batman gives me “i confessed my feelings and my queerness to my straight crush and he still treats me nice and it’s weird because i’m used to be seen as a monster and predator but i’m just a normal human allowed to feel and that is new for me” vibes, idk why just me?

[@theunluckypotato1484]

Same

[@redballoon9007]

Batman in LEGO Batman ain’t straight tho- He was just SO FAR IN THE CLOSET-

[@Sara-uq6km]

@@redballoon9007 true true

[@braden_m]

@@Sara-uq6km and @Red Balloon somehow both of these takes are the most accurate things I've ever heard and I can't choose between them so good effing job

[@Sara-uq6km]

@@braden_m i am very happy to have enriched your Lego Batman interpretation

[@oakgreenoak]

I remember watching this in theaters, and midway through the movie my mom leaned over to me and said "I'm starting to see why people on Facebook were saying this is gay." 10/10 best Batman movie ever.

[@devfre44]

“This queer threat isn’t just directed at Batman, but at the readers who fear that one day Batman won’t beat the Joker’s ass the way they want him to.” If you would excuse me I need to take a ten year nap to recover from how amazing that quote is ☺️

[@parade6271]

Ikr I laughed for a straight- I mean gay minute after hearing that

[@tripwire202]

Wait! I didn't notice that was innuendo until you pointed that out -- my asexual self is so bad at spotting subtext. Thank you for revealing it in all its punderful majesty.

[@unimear]

Wait someone send a timestamp so I can screenshot

[@devfre44]

@@unimear I gotchu 15:22

[@unimear]

@@devfre44 Thanks b

[@lakamokolaka]

Alternate Title: Batman The Biggest Tsundere in all of Media

[@bambangmaulana8121]

@@Mister_Don888 it's not like i *hate* you or anything.. Baka

[@rubberduckproductions544]

It even makes sense in the comics LMAO insert any member of the justice league or batfamily, and he hated all of them at first lol

[@anarchomando7707]

@@rubberduckproductions544 batman x Superman Rich goth sugar daddy x happy-go-lucky unkillable farmboy boy scout

[@luzhalley]

It's not that I like you ir anything!! B a t k a

[@NutpuffTheWolf]

Yes

[@valentine8409]

I also love how Harley is just like Joker's emotional support lesbian

[@KindredKay]

Underrated comment

[@nihiladest3492]

y e s

[@LangkeeLongkee]

Now we just need to bring in Pamelam😣

[@benbarltrop2006]

This

[@weilir7065]

"he needs to open his eyes and see what it feels like when you're not around"

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

Always thought Batman works even better when he's gay, especially since animated Batman's long-running VA was gay, and spoke often on how he related so much to the Caped Crusader's double life while growing up. The idea of Bruce actively PRETENDING to be a playboy while being quietly miserable is something some stories toy with, and that only gets all the more compelling if he's also in the closet.

[@theflickchick9850]

“Joker represents a homophobe’s worst nightmare,” That legit made me like the Joker even more. That’s such a neat concept.

[@anarchomando7707]

And he would probably put on that front as a joke I actively see him being straight but acting gay as hell just to fuck with people

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@anarchomando7707 yeah lol a straight joker making people think he’s gay is challenging homophobes, which is ironically good 😂

[@four-en-tee]

@@anarchomando7707 It's so in-character that it's almost scary.

[@technicolorbarf6734]

Thats why he is still one of my fav characters even after being memed to death

[@darkmatter1721]

Joker would beat the shit out of a gay guy and tell him that “it’s not because your gay, it’s because you fucking scratched my car”

[@Justice1Knight3]

"By the time the 50s rolled around, parents had started to grow weary of comic books the same way the parents of today are weary of video games. People were concerned that comics caused junevile delinquency." History has a funny way of repeating itself, doesn't it?

[@lpsloveandgame6046]

Of course, people used to say the same thing about books. Yes, plain old books.

[@theotherjared9824]

There are ancient records dating to back to Babylonian times showing that people were complaining that the new concept of the written word would foster laziness among children.

[@hxlium3948]

@@theotherjared9824 Y... you can’t be-omg can I please have a source? I wanna read about this omg-

[@theotherjared9824]

@@hxlium3948 I don't remember exactly where I found it, but I think you can find it with a little bit of searching.

[@PolyChromium]

@@hxlium3948 I think it was actually Plato who said that

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

Also the fact he acts like a man child is true for batman as well. Batman lost his parents as a child and hes stuck there. He ignores his feelings by dressing up as a bat and beating up homeless crazy people. Batman puts up a front to look cool but hes incapable of handling his emotions and reacts how he does. He is a manchild and this movie was just very blatant about it

[@teaganwillier-lauck638]

I like how they made it accurate to real psychology and how the mind sticks into the same age the trauma happened at.

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

Omfg underrated comment 🤣💕💕💕💕

[@kellabdjfoo]

@@teaganwillier-lauck638 i know right!

[@elfsieben1450]

So was "The Batman"; but thankfully in both movies Bruce/Batman has a bit of an arc and takes an important step towards maturity. Gotta love that.

[@jinx5673]

@@elfsieben1450 tbh, that’s not how Batman is as a character. Batman isn’t the mask, Bruce is.

[@greninjastorm6734]

I've never realized it until now, but despite the light tone of the movie, it does acknowledge Batman's trauma over losing his parents. We all know it's a core part of his backstory, but to my knowledge, it's never really been looked into quite like this Batman is afraid of having a new family because he doesn't want to lose them like he did his parents. It weighs heavily on him, and he doesn't want to go through that pain again, especially if he thinks he can prevent it

[@spicy_seagull]

I’m so used to over analyzing possible gay subtext that I forget sometimes it’s in there on purpose 🤧

[@PreciousIvy]

that's how we cope unfortunately...

[@Ambir91]

Let's not forget Joaquin Phoenix's joker also had a bit of gayness spice. In a interview he said the joker had a lil bit of Frank-n-Furter from the Rocky Horror Picture Show ...

[@MrGamelover23]

@@PreciousIvy Cope with what, you being a minority? It kind of reminds me of how Christians look for Christian subtext/themes sometimes, though outside of Christian colleges I haven't seen it often, but it's something we do.

[@danicastro3616]

@@Ambir91 that's so interesting, i had no idea he said that. it makes total sense in retrospect

[@kawaiielephant7772]

@@MrGamelover23 .....

[@dollspine]

bro.... batman and joker had an enemies to lovers moment

[@brakpak]

more like enemies to..... uhh....."enemies ;3"

[@anarchomando7707]

@@brakpak but Then we don't get two furry bondage fetishists jumping of acrossed and a giant game of cat and mouse That's what Batman and Catwoman are She even has the wip I'm sorry but standard *gay* is not enough for me (Also any joker besides silver age joker Would be extremely abusive, (silver age I honestly think is the least deadly but most creative) I can't leave my favorite superhero with him I'm okay with him being shipped with Superman at the very *least* He ain't going to be killed by laughing gas or some other stupid contraption)

[@brakpak]

@@anarchomando7707 but its legos my dude putting bondage fetishists and toxic relationships in the legos would be really....... weird

[@kittypetrockxd7945]

enemies (derogatory) to enemies (affectionate)

[@MangaMarjan]

This reminds me of the Joker being repulsed by Red Skull because he's a nazi. Murder, torture, unspeakable acts of violence=ok. Doing all of these out of a sense of racial superiority=get out of here!

[@tripledigit4835]

Well Joker is an anarchist, while Red Skill is a totalitarian. Completely opposite in terms of worldview and governing philosophy

[@colin3ds1]

When was this crossover?

[@staby3956]

Just because he’s a killer doesn’t mean he has no standards

[@noneya.RAHGHHGGHH.AMEIRCAAAA]

YUP

[@angrycinnabon2956]

@@staby3956 Professionals have standards.

[@Fazmemes357]

“I like to fight around”

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

I always loved how this movie crammed as many obscure Batman villains as possible, especially since it meant they would make toys of those neglected characters.

[@KumaoftheForest]

Probably worth a google

[@hereandthere8157]

The way I like joker being a bit more queer than Batman, is that he is in love with the idea of Batman not Bruce Wayne, i always digged that. It’s almost certain that it wouldn’t work out not because Batman is too straight, but he isn’t just Batman. This relationship goes beyond their orientation but their identity as well. I loved the idea of joker never existing because Batman didn’t. They are forever going to be made for each other but will never be together. In that sense, it is forbidden love and that’s something I like in romance sometimes.

[@abimaellopezmaylord27lopez7]

Just like Catwoman

[@AlexReynard]

This is like the 80th comment I've read on this page that makes absolutely no mention whatsoever that the reason Batman doesn't like the Joker is that the Joker murders innocent people.

[@tillycomedy2194]

@@AlexReynard bro ur so right 😂

[@MalikProductionsMax]

@@AlexReynard and also the fact that he has also brutally murdered one of his adopted sons.

[@amiable_monster]

Well Joker called himself and Batman "star-crossed" in Arkham Knight so...he acknowledge this

[@espantapajaros33]

from time to time I think this movie was a fever dream because it was so unapologetically gay I could not believe it was real. I love it so much, bless this version of the joker in particular

[@hormiga9526]

I'm SO mad because the Harley Quinn series was the perfect place to make the batjokes cannon, i mean, it would be perfect

[@nataliawarwas6117]

YES T.T

[@mentallyillbean]

There's still time 😞🤞

[@Gamemaster13000]

Queer coded? Robin straight up said he had two dad. The code's as simple as a print statement saying "I'm gay!".

[@IncorrectHB]

In the movie? I don't remember i only watched it once

[@Gamemaster13000]

@@IncorrectHB i can't recall if he said that exactly but it's definitely mentioned that he considers both Batman and Bruce Wayne to be his dad. It's been awhile since I saw it but a joke like that is very inline with all the other queer jokes in the movie.

[@choppa3358]

Yes he does!

[@qwertyCandy]

@@Gamemaster13000 He did explicitly say that - when he's all cheery because Batman took him out on a mission and he's like "I didn't have a dad and now I have two dads!" :)

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@IncorrectHB Yeah, I just watched and they joke about having more than one dad more than once.

[@asterolivine5367]

Honestly Harley being Jokers emotionally wise lesbian friend is their best dynamic

[@treasuremage7546]

WTF are you all talking? If Harley was emotionally wise she wouldn't have gotten involved with him in the first place. The only dynamic that's ever been between them is Harley THINKING she's a hotshot psychologist that could get to the root of his issues, and Joker exploiting this to turn her into an emotional punching bag.

[@lunab541]

@@treasuremage7546 Lego Batman. That's what they are talking about

[@di7209]

Treasure Mage Thyere referring to lego batman in particular where the lore is wildly different

[@zinmayoo6800]

@@treasuremage7546 LEGO BATMAN is not serious comic geek!

[@ambarperez7420]

@@treasuremage7546 🤨?

[@Montesama314]

I love Harley bring Joker's supportive friend helping her bro through a breakup. How often have they EVER represented a mutually beneficial relationship?

[@truffeltroll6668]

It's kinda weird because it ignores her entire backstory

[@notchococookie]

@@truffeltroll6668lego universe

[@truffeltroll6668]

@@notchococookie is her backstory different?

[@slavishentity6705]

@@truffeltroll6668 It's a parody. Not everything has to be the same as it normally is.

[@truffeltroll6668]

@♀️ slavish entity ♀️ let's make a spiderman movie, but turn him into something completely different. Don't get me wrong, but the breakup is a very important part of healthy relationship and boundaries representation and Harley is important Bi rep

[@riri89927]

This entire movie was one of my favorite movies as a kid, and it still is. They managed to add representation secretly, so secretly that my homophobic parents didn’t really notice- allowing me to watch it a couple hundred times. Also shoutout to Lego batwomen, for being one of my first crushes

[@wren_.]

same thing with kung fu panda 3. it wasn’t technically gay, but the plot point of “yknow whats cooler than one dad? TWO DADS!” gets pretty close

[@truffeltroll6668]

Bro that movie came out in 2017

[@msshrute8787]

@@truffeltroll6668 which was over 6 years ago. Im 20 now and saw this movie back when I was 14. Time flies too quickly 😭

[@truffeltroll6668]

@MsShrute not that much over 6 years, just a few days. 6 years is not that long

[@gaminganimators7000]

​@@truffeltroll6668are you debating someone's age?

[@DriftPiss9000]

I think you'll like this video essay called "we could be queeroes"

[@kingsaracoon9594]

ME AND YOU

[@lyrablack8621]

@@kingsaracoon9594 thank you

[@Vivigreeny25]

I read "queerios" ohmygod-

[@pantheraviva]

link 👉👈

[@pantheraviva]

Nvm found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWjPhX5nqb2rgtE

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

Fun fact, along with homphobia, the CCA also was very much mysoginistic. Along with forcing female writers out, eventually leading into the oversexualazation of many fictional women, it caused several comic writers to poke fun at the thing. For instance, Power Girls boobwindow grew wider specificallt to push the boundaries. She hulk actually put a direct joke about this, labeling her underwear as 'protected by the comics code authority'.

[@katitax508]

Yeah, I remember reading a while ago about Wonder Woman being censored for it

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Though objectifying women ain't feminist either

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I mean yegua but it’s relevant. Never said it was. Actually what was meant to be a feminist costume was ms marvel! Her overt sexuality and revealing costume was meant as a direct jab at the sexist attitude of the CCA

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@eldritchcupcakes3195 Maybe, there were feminists that used nudity and skimpy clothes to piss off sexist Christians, but the issue is that equally sexist pervy men jumped onto that and ruined it.

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 oh yeah gross men totally misinterpreted the point, but it doesn’t change the message

[@FaeChangeling]

I really liked Telltale's Batman because Joker is your buddy. He's like an adorable puppy who always wants to impress, but doesn't quite understand how and gets upset when he can't live up to Batman's strict and confusing morals. The entire time you feel sympathetic to him and he genuinely feels like your friend, you don't want to see him hurt or upset, and even when it all comes crumbling down and he turns into the villain, it still feels like he's your friend who's gone down the wrong path. They tried really hard to make it look straight: Bruce is with Selina and flirts with Harley, and Joker is crushing hard on Harley too, but it's very clear that Joker genuinely loves Bruce - whether romantically or platonically - and depending on how you play him Bruce feels the same but is just worse at showing it. Joker isn't some crazy obsessed psychopath, he's a guy with genuine mental health issues that make it hard for him to understand right and wrong, and he'll do anything to receive the approval and affection he's been lacking all his life. He tries to be good because it's what will make Bruce proud of him, but Batman has such high standards and is often so hypocritical that it's impossible to live up to them and it leaves John feeling like a disappointment. It's by far the deepest and most personal relationship between the two I've ever seen.

[@kirilongboi4647]

This comment almost made me cry because of how true it is

[@alicemaria975]

thank you for this comment because it got me to buy and play through both of telltale's batman games and holy shit they are the best

[@starblocktheflyer7854]

I want to play that game so much, it sounds so interesting! Also, reminds me of Jinx/Powder from Arcane. How she was constantly trying to impress and live up to what she thought other people's (Vander, Silco, Milo, and of course Vi) expectations were. She doesn't have any romantic feelings as at first she is just a child and then her emotional growth is stunted so she really just stays a child in an adult's body, but she _is_ presented as a misfit who doesn't fight like everyone else around her. For her, when everything comes tumbling down it's because she is trying to save her friends and prove that she CAN be useful, and we really want her to succeed in that...which of course makes it really sad when she is the reason it all goes wrong. After watching Arcane I heard a lot of people saying how they expected her to be a Harley Quinn but it turned out she was actually a Joker.

[@Dovah_Slayer]

That's deep man

[@safegourd]

Ok you’ve sold me on this

[@Melody_Magik]

And this is why the line "Be gay do crimes" belongs to this fandom

[@dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz7392]

Wow! If i had a nickel for everytime Joker told Catwoman he loves Batman, i'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

[@karmawillcollect6092]

he did it-

[@TheSuicidalGiraffe]

No, the Joker's persona has been redesigned to be obsessed with Batman.

[@Mysticgamer]

Yes, but not for the joker.

[@thealmightycrisprat]

doofenschmirtz evil incorporateeeeed

[@gabsnandes7818]

​@@TheSuicidalGiraffefor decades tbh lol

[@robonthecob6920]

I expected a simple explanation of how Batman and the Joker are “gay” in The Lego Batman Movie for the sake of minor social commentary, but instead I got an extremely intelligent and well-edited exploration of the queer coding that existed throughout the entirety of the Batman mythos, and how it came to define aspects of its characters. Great video, keep up the good work.

[@normalhuman9878]

Yeah I clicked expecting to make an angry comment about how many Batman villains have long been queer coded, including a comic where Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy were married

[@dula6693]

@@normalhuman9878 WHAT COMIC IS THAT

[@Dovah_Slayer]

@@normalhuman9878 why? Who cares if Harley is gay

[@Dovah_Slayer]

@@dula6693 a lot of comics actually mostly modern where we are less collective bigots

[@lil_astrid_adderal]

@@Dovah_Slayer i think they were excited for representation

[@beckwells25]

Well shit, now I want a shirt that says 'Not approved by the Comics Code authority' with a rainbow background instead of white

[@EtherealAmoeba]

I second this!!

[@lu-em6wr]

Vouch!!! I would sell my arm for a shirt like this

[@heyfell4301]

Never saw Queercoding as something so positive. And it's cool that Lego Batman acknoledges this, even if unintentional, gay conotation exists since the very origins of Batman, so i just feel like there's something very sweet in a movie almost entirely based around that. Edit: btw, you completely got my subscription after your divine interpretation of Werthan's text. Love it.

[@zoehamada3344]

I honestly love how Sauron was all dark and said "I'd like to make the streets run red with batman's blood" and Joker was all like "nah man too far" and Sauron IMMEDIATELY said "oh okay moving on to lava" he just. Saw how apparently there's a line to where Joker will go into hurting this dude and Sauron was just cool with it. You go, man. And also during the "I hate you Joker" scene at the end of the movie, I frigging was so happy for Joker because he looked so elated and blissful like my dude needed that I could tell. I've watched it several times 😭

[@Tanystropheus10]

17:08

[@FranK-tg7ou]

I hope the Robert Patterson movie is the perfect blend of depressed batman and gay batman

[@doriangrayapologist]

knowing the harbinger of chaos that is pattinson, i think he’d make it work

[@someonewithaphone3108]

A depressed gay batman? That would be the most relatable batman yet

[@booklover8081]

@@someonewithaphone3108 I usually don’t like watching Batman, but if that’s the direction the movies go in, I’ll watch it a million times.

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Dope va11 hall-a pfp!

[@sketchycat6223]

He’ll be perfect

[@aidanb6882]

Jokes on them, now bat woman is the gay one

[@anarchomando7707]

She also confirms that Batman is Jewish (at least not practicing) As she's Jewish on his mother's side

[@dededeletethis9940]

Batwoman was created to show that batman wasn't gay, only to become a lesbian herself. Ironic.

[@anarchomando7707]

@@dededeletethis9940 I wouldn't be surprised if that was the intention

[@justlola417]

Episodic homosexual experiences is so funny to me. The guy was literally like "yeah everyone has the gay sometimes, the problem is when you keep doing it"

[@serena8942]

My mom: almost bans us from seeing the live action beauty and the beast in theaters because she heard there was *-GAY-* in it Also my mom: let’s my lil bro watch the lego Batman movie 24/7 on repeat with no questions asked...

[@Roadent1241]

She doesn't realise there's like 10% gay in the new BatB compared to the, what 90+% in LB?

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

Just wash your hands after watching the movie then you won’t catch the gay.

[@neksnek2032]

The str8s can't detect subtext for shit

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

@@neksnek2032 a-ha! I will be able to make my dad watch Hannibal then! He won’t be able to see the strong subtext between Hannibal and Will (I’m not even joking at this point, I think he probably wouldn’t see it).

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@HiBuddyyyyyy tbh my dad could watch our flag means deth, she ra, and hannibal all in a row and go "wow what a beautiful friendship"

[@Respectmawauthority]

My entire family went with me to see this and I was SO TENSE THE WHOLE TIME BUT LAUGHING MY ASS OFF because I KNEW dad hated all the queercoding he could SEE IT

[@smallbugsontheinternet6944]

I can relate lol... When we watched this in the telly, my dad lose it at the sunset scene SDFGHJKLQ

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

Hahaha! Let them suffer. My dad didn’t like it either (even though he’s only seen like 20 minutes of it) it but now I want him to actually watch it all the way through and hear his thoughts on it.

[@justmonika3365]

My mom also didn't like it but I think it was cuz we watched it in English and she gets pissed off when she has to watch something in English

[@RandomSwiftie13]

This is why I go to watch movies with my friends instead because we understand eachother.

[@cidevant002]

As a batjoke shipper, I cannot tell you how happy this whole movie made me. I also love that Harley is the supportive friend and is not demonized or treated like shit.

[@pandogstudios1512]

Wait you ship Batman and Joker?

[@cidevant002]

@@pandogstudios1512 Yep, a lot of people do in fandom.

[@dannyswrath]

harley quinn is jokers supportive lesbian bff and joker was the pastor at her and poison ivy's wedding

[@cidevant002]

@@dannyswrath Yeeees, exactly.

[@phastinemoon]

@@dannyswrath Best headcanon!

[@ilkay3050]

8:02 for some reason, now, i really have the urge to make a comic book that violates every single point on that list

[@porciwall9261]

Pokes you with stick of encouragement

[@joshm977]

Id just like to point out that because this is in the lego movie world this is all being made up by a kid, so it makes it seem like this kid might be gay and just wants to see his favorite characters be like him

[@anarchomando7707]

I like this interpretation even better

[@katem3329]

Oh my gosh that's so cute uwu

[@sailorquestion3229]

Isn't that only established in the lego movie? It is still possible, but not confirmed.

[@katem3329]

@@sailorquestion3229 I mean, yeah, but the lego batman movie technically takes place in the same universe as the lego movie, or at least according to the reference from the sequel

[@joshm977]

Sailor Question well batman is in both them and he seems to be the same character. Maybe it’s dumb but i just thought it was wholesome

[@nerdwarp112]

I really liked Joker and Batman’s relationship in the Telltale games. It made their relationship more personal than most depictions, as they were actually friends (and aspects of it could be interpreted as romantic) before Joker eventually turns to crime. Also, I’m kind of surprised that people didn’t notice that their relationship in this movie is pretty gay (I don’t mean this in a negative way). It follows the general role of a general romance arc but it’s their “hatred” for one another rather than love.

[@abimaellopezmaylord27lopez7]

Did you listen to jokers lines that they deleted in the tell tale game

[@reyveneditsqueen119]

This whole movie was a gay disaster but my grandma still said ahhh they seem like good friends 😂😂😂

[@RegstarRogstar]

Amazing lmfaooooooo

[@haveagoodmourning]

Historians be like

[@reyveneditsqueen119]

@@haveagoodmourning they were very close friends

[@DuskyPredator]

Oh my god, they were nemeses.

[@vecna2101]

Is your grandma a historian?

[@Rissa_1322]

I feel no straight person could sincerely imagine that it's possible to convert someone to being gay. It just feels like you'd have to be in a distinctly Fitzgeraldian situation (you know where he basically said all dudes wanna sleep with other dudes and you just have to not do it) in order to convince yourself that reading a story about two men living together will cause you to fantasize about doing the same. This is hysterical.

[@waffle._.bubbles]

Sin Squad: “People began to associate Batman with-“ Ad: “ElVivE wAvE LeNGtHs”

[@michaelmohamed6739]

"people began to associate batman with-" " *ketamine* "

[@thegayone1911]

Apparently Batman=Mattress for me

[@breadcrust4006]

My friend started choking very loudly in the packed theatre when Batman said “I don’t do ships”

[@firetarrasque4667]

Put Aunt Harriet back in the Manor. Don't remove Alfred this time. Just put Aunt Harriet back. *We need her back.*

[@four-en-tee]

Finally, a love interest for Alfred. Absolute win.

[@WallebyDamned]

I want to see Alfred be bigender and Aunt Harriet is his femme side.

[@Milkyway_tism]

I'm not even lying my father genuinely asked me if they were going to kiss in the movie

[@2if_GD]

I don't blame him lol

[@orochi52]

To me it's weird when people wanna argue the Joker is straight. Like seriously? You can give him girlfriends I'm still gonna head cannon him bi and his number 1 always gonna be Batman.

[@fluidthought42]

I have a hard time of thinking of Joker as a sexual being, but I certainly can acknowledge that his obsession with Bats is borderline romantic. I say borderline because Joker being a psychopath I don't think he can form any real connection to anyone, but the closest he has to an emotional connection to anyone is to Batman.

[@faithfm1]

It's hard not to see him as bi for me too

[@CorHellekin]

@@fluidthought42 i think it really depends on the media and the author. In a way, all jokers and Batmans are different. Althought there is a canon around the character, it is loose enough so that they can mess around with the dynamics, motivations and etc.

[@fluidthought42]

@@CorHellekin Lindsey Ellis doing a Loose Canon episode on Joker would def be appreciated

[@treasuremage7546]

@@fluidthought42 I think she's already stated that she's never gonna touch it with a ten feet pole.

[@Noncomposmentiis]

I can assure you the Latinoamerican spanish dub managed to made this movie somehow gayer

[@eduardvolution]

How so?

[@juliocesar899]

Man...this is because you don't watch the Brazilian dub....OHH BOY THE GAYS ARE PROUD!!

[@hmredacted2123]

why is it always the spanish dubs omg

[@aylinvasquez5362]

@@hmredacted2123 is he you know *spanish dub*??

[@imorstrash8985]

How?? Lol I'm genuinely interested, I've never seen this movie in the Spanish dub despite the fact that Spanish is my native tongue.

[@donnamitsuki281]

And Harley is probably dating Poison Ivy. So in this movie they're _Gay + Lesbian Friends Supremacy._ And I adore it so much.

[@treasuremage7546]

That's also fucking stupid. Ivy isn't dating her because Ivy wouldn't date anyone that isn't a tomato. She's radical plant supremacist that wants ALL people dead.

[@redballoon9007]

@@treasuremage7546 Tell that to comics and to the show “Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy”, Buddy.

[@treasuremage7546]

@@redballoon9007 I write them a letter about it every week.

[@redballoon9007]

@@treasuremage7546 Hey. Maybe you should, I don’t know, let it be?

[@treasuremage7546]

@@redballoon9007 With great power comes great responsibility.

[@JezElectro13]

i actually love how this rivalry is portrayed like it's a romantic relationship but with changed words to be Arch-rivarly Relationship.

[@yourjunes]

The Batman universe is much better when it doesn't take itself seriously.

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

Well… he is a man with a lot of emotional trauma dressing up as his bat fursona beating the mentally ill.

[@bladelaw4200]

I find that most things are

[@lefishe129]

Arkham Asylum, Long Halloween, Dark Knight Returns, Year One, Ego, Hush, The Owls Court... And that's not counting series, animated, movies, etc. So... No, no matter how good are the jokes any comedic Batman product is not even 1% as good as serious ones

[@yourjunes]

​@@lefishe129 I just personally feel the Batman franchise is too far up its own ass to have any kind of fun. I have half the graphic novels you mentioned in hardback on my shelf but my favorite version of the Batman universe is easily The Harley Quinn Show. I think the biggest thing is I just can't take Bruce Wayne seriously anymore. He really is just a gigamanchild with more money than sense no matter how you look at it.

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@lefishe129 I disagree. this guy literally dresses up in a spandex fursuit to beat up clowns and condiment king

[@acenull0]

Lmao I love when Batman said "Me too" after the Joker says he hated him and everyone got mad 😂

[@matti.8465]

This movie and the Batman Telltale games are the only instances where shipping Batman and Joker isn't just completely valid, but it's also extremely close to being canon.

[@will_pilled]

Like she said there are different timelines so there is a few where it is cannon sis💅

[@animehearthd5469]

it is literally canon in the telltale game, john is bi canonically

[@HarleyWithJoker]

@@animehearthd5469 bro if I had a nickel for every time Gay tension was between the two… I’d have way more just 2 nickels. and that’s NOT a *coincidence*

[@itrashcant7947]

This takes "I'd pound you to a pulp" and "Start pounding Joker" to a whole nother level

[@nickbell8353]

I'm just glad that Joker isn't cutting his own face off and taping it back to his head. Ever since The Dark Knight Returns, it seems like Batman writers have been trying to one-up themselves in terms of darkness and misery. The Killing Joke is also guilty for getting this ball rolling. And the darkness peaked with Batman v. Superman, where no one cracks a smile. I'm glad Lego Batman exists, but for completely different reasons.

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

I get what you mean. I really like dark stories but they’re even better with humour. It comes off a bit cheesy if something is 100% serious all the time. Real life isn’t like that.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

BvS ain't even that dark lol

[@amiable_monster]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I think he meant literally 😂

[@truffeltroll6668]

I just hope the batman sequel won't go even more into the edgy. Unfortunately it looks like that will happen

[@danielnidhiry5796]

There are three different versions of the joker in Batman history: the golden age (criminal mastermind) the silver age (prankster aka this movies version) and the mordern age ( the psychopath edgy one)

[@mochibunnyan6556]

Why does “seduction of the innocent” sound like the title of a pron novel-

[@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229]

PRAWN movie XDDDD

[@t0astygh0stt]

It really does wow-

[@xavis7617]

Honestly sounds like a corruption/mind-break hentai to me. Could even include unwilling hypnosis.

[@jeffbezos3200]

Lmao, the Joker and Batman being gay is the single best plot element in the LEGO series. It really is unmissable unless you’re in denial. The fact that it managed to be both hilarious and heartfelt was really neat. Good movie, but you don’t need me to tell you that.

[@lordrathut]

I doubt Lego Batman is gay. Remember the parts where he was simping for Barbara Gordon?

[@elfsieben1450]

@@lordrathut Well, he has two personae: Heterosexual at daytime, homosexual at nighttime. Catch him at dusk or dawn, he might be bi or pan, changing his costumes.

[@him1517]

they’re not literally gay its humor

[@elfsieben1450]

@@him1517 To me, it was both, humourous and gay. I had quite a gay time with this film.

[@b1tch-user]

@@him1517 You sound like the type of person who would say something like "I kissed my homie on the lips, but it's okay why we said No Homo"

[@That0neCrow]

"The readers who fear batman won't beat the jokers ass in the way they want him too" HAD ME WHEEZING-

[@TennelleFlowers]

Dude. You know how it's sort of become a joke at this point that The Straights TM are completely blind to queercoding in media? I kid you not, I've had to explain to MULTIPLE PEOPLE that this movie was very, very, VERY gay. And the look of surprise on their face and "what? No. I don't remember it like that. You're reading too much into it." IT'S LITERALLY. WHAT THE MOVIE. IS ABOUT. Fantastic review! I didn't know about the history of the comic books so that retroactively made my love for this movie even stronger.

[@noahhager1187]

I don't know how people miss that (though tbh it felt so natural that joker has a crush on batman it didn't register as gay for me somehow)

[@applesource8261]

Its even more fascinating that they see romance so quickly when they just see a boy and a girl next to each other but not when the Joker is literally heart broken because Batman doesnt likes him like the Joker loves Batman.

[@katherinegallagher1745]

They be spittin facts.

[@tvguts]

pm,. m......... .

[@The_Sin_Squad]

THANK YOU TENNEEEEELLE!

[@lemonzurker9739]

The idea of batman making kids gay was extremely hilarious to me. Straight people crack me up.

[@Av1t3o]

never thought I would ever hear that sentence but here we are

[@savageshot3723]

Do any gay people crack you up?

[@lemonzurker9739]

@@savageshot3723 Is John Mulaney gay?

[@fumbly_figs2301]

@Lemonzurker Unfortunately he’s not :(

[@lord_ozymandias]

@@lemonzurker9739 no he’s het :(

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

I didn’t think it was exactly subtle I thought this was just a well-known thing

[@HelloTrandler]

I legit keep reading the title as “submissive”. I need sleep

[@sanddry738]

Considering how much in comics the relationship between the Joker and Batman is described, the whole running joke of the lego version being a romantic allegory just makes so much sense. Really great considering how the film is a parody. Need to watch it one day...

[@Q-lyme]

YES FINALLY GAY LEGOS

[@אביבאיגל]

Indeed

[@Junebug0369]

FUCK YEAH

[@henrycrabs3497]

Gaygos

[@sketchycat6223]

@@henrycrabs3497 gaygo my legos

[@Ni.61]

A MAN HAS FALLEN FOR A MAN IN LEGO CITY!

[@zelieranquet3390]

As an avid shipper of hero/villain, that movie was a godsend

[@ooferdanoob6013]

Periodt

[@nesconcen3427]

Someone with sense!

[@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229]

Same bro

[@AlexReynard]

>As an avid shipper of hero/villain Why? Serious, genuine question. I have never understood the appeal.

[@spaghetti5914]

@@AlexReynard Interesting, complex dynamic

[@celinavarchausky5333]

This is my comfort video essay

[@The_Dragon_Boi]

Imagine being so homophobic you try to boycott the lego batman movie because it’s “pro-gay propaganda” lmao

[@MomoKanjaki]

lol Ikr.

[@soyjoyy]

Homophobes boycotted the film, and it still became an box office success. Well, too bad for them I guess

[@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11]

Nobody is gay, and its not queer coding, its more of a submissive bro code, google it

[@kwowka]

@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11… can I have a tone tag on this (insert Garfield are you /j or /srs meme)

[@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11]

@@kwowka wha?

[@dumbumbumbum8649]

I’ve spent years trying to explain to Zach Snyder fanboys why this movie understands Batman better than any other

[@burtmacklinfbi5988]

fighting the good fight

[@dumbumbumbum8649]

@@burtmacklinfbi5988 it’s a struggle, but it’s worth

[@FelisImpurrator]

Man, Snyder is just such a terrible filmmaker when he has to do anything other than mindless edgelord spectacle.

[@NathanielClarkeson]

@@FelisImpurrator not terrible, but not great. He is a fantastic cinematographer

[@jammygamer8961]

What does this movie have to do with Zack Snyder? secondly Batman vs Superman makes it somewhat clear what Batman is doing is wrong ranging from police and civilians fearing him to Alfred scolding him on his behaviour. The Ultimate edition does this even more by having Clark talk to a civilian. Basically point is that Zack understands the character he just choose to do something new with them Thirdly Just let people enjoy their films. If you don't like Zack's stuff that is cool! just don't go round trying to ruin it for those that do enjoy it

[@amielsbiels]

the history of homophobically gay joker literally made me so angry that the ending bit where you got back to lego batman made me tear up

[@anonymouslucario285]

Why are you angry?

[@DegeneratesLikeYou]

@@anonymouslucario285 sensitive woke person?

[@sfglim5341]

@@DegeneratesLikeYou ratio

[@DegeneratesLikeYou]

@@sfglim5341 Pipe down petal.

[@joyc.e.7511]

@@DegeneratesLikeYou Because discrimination is upsetting

[@hamcaked]

I know it’s been over a year since this video came out, but I wanted to say that this has become a bit of a comfort video for me. I’m not sure why, but I keep coming back to it. I recently discovered some of my friends have never seen this movie but I am determined to fix that soon! The world needs more gay Lego

[@robloxdoorsfan8343]

This movie has the perfect definition of a Kismesis relationship, basically it is hating each other and through rivalries, you make each other better, plus it's an engaging movie.

[@pizzapastaparty3095]

Shut up Homestuck.

[@fathermackenzie2121]

true but also LMAO HOMESTUCK READER

[@taketheriddlepill4975]

@@fathermackenzie2121 AYYY BATTER PFP

[@alistermcdougal2381]

*relates in homestuck*

[@suitov]

Oh thank goodness, I've found the Homestucks. Bats ♠️ Joker.

[@Shelbichu]

Personally, idk if I'd call it "subversive queercoding" since it was all up in your face about the gay jokes.. but reading the comments now I guess some Straights just didn't??? Notice it??? THEY WERE SO LOUD THO LMAO

[@1000-i7d]

It's not subversive because it's hard to notice, it's subversive because instead of demonizing him it makes him more sympathetic to the viewers

[@stvltiloqvent]

At the end of the video op states that the queercoding in TLBM is subversive for subverting the Batman macho man mythos, not because the movie on its own is subversive

[@blah7983]

You’re mixing up subversive and subtle I think

[@1000-i7d]

@Ty The Great you clearly didnt watch the video so I'm not gonna argue with you, but a whole movie based on two character's relationship isn't "just a gay joke".

[@renato2586]

suddenly Lego Batman is the best Batman movie ever released and im in love with it 🤔🤔 curious

[@nella_paulina]

Always has been

[@tacobread3]

Not even close

[@yupdatsmeboiii]

@@tacobread3 nah it is

[@reigensolos]

all of a sudden i’m rewatching lego batman again 😩

[@tacobread3]

@@yupdatsmeboiii mmmm nope. Not really.

[@satinizer8021]

the LEGO batman is literally the only batman movie to tackle Bruce's genuine fear and insecurities of commitment and having a family again. all the current movies are made for white cishet men who want to identify with the stone-cold, emotionless, hot vigilante who has Trauma, but doesn't show it, and who is only allowed to feel either anger or horniness. i also think that it's literally the only recent movie that even has Robin?? because if you add Robin to the mix, you WILL have to at least somehow address Bruce's feelings, and that's a big no-no, so all batman movies are basically solo + whatever chicks the writers throw at him