Project RX-8: SOHN Oil Metering Adapter Install

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The Slip Angle

The Slip Angle

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Today on Project RX-8 we install the SOHN oil metering adapter and switch to a proper Rotary engine premix for increased apex seal and engine longevity.
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@axelboada386
@axelboada386 4 жыл бұрын
I know all this videos are old but mannn, you have help me out so much with my project that I’m really glad that you making all these videos!! Thank you so much for all the rotary love man!❤️
@trackstarflash
@trackstarflash 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! Everything I wanted in the adapter video. Everyone else just talks about it. Thank you!
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@ramonrivera5467
@ramonrivera5467 2 жыл бұрын
That engine's going to love that stuff it's going to be the proper oil all round cold start winter time and refreshing parts on high stress moments.
@GrahamCam
@GrahamCam 4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I recently got my 04 RX8 back on the road and have been using you as inspiration for restoring her back to her former glory and beyond. Keep up the great work
@mendozad
@mendozad 6 жыл бұрын
Great video... I just finished my install and your video made it so much easier. Thank you.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome Daniel! I am really glad to hear that!
@jerryglennie5375
@jerryglennie5375 4 жыл бұрын
'05 shinka.... Just got the sohn adapter. Mostly easy install but very pleased with the application
@JayCras
@JayCras 6 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who can explain some of this stuff. For example synthetic not burning right. I know your not supposed to use it but the reason was always "because" any good vid.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you James 👍
@3toedSloth75
@3toedSloth75 5 жыл бұрын
Modern synthetics are fine. It was back in the '90s and prior when parrifn-based synthetics caused ashy deposits. Most high quality synthetics are ester based and usually burn cleaner than non-synthetic. Examples: Mazda's rotary engine oil sold outside the US is synthetic. As is Idemitsu's Rotary engine oil is 10w30, and what I've run since break in.
@chrislg4519
@chrislg4519 4 жыл бұрын
@@3toedSloth75 is new synthetic 2 stroke oil ok to premix with fuel from 1/2 to 1 oz per gallon on 04 Rx8? Thanks. I read that regular mineral oil burns better.
@3toedSloth75
@3toedSloth75 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrislg4519 I use Idemitsu rotary. It's a blend. Some synthetics are fine to use. Royal Purple is another I've used
@chrislg4519
@chrislg4519 4 жыл бұрын
@@3toedSloth75 Ok thank you 👍🙏 i may experiment with different premix oils to help preserve seals & compression. So hopefully seals can somehow be better lubed to last longer 🙏⭐ in this video, it seams Apex seals are made of metal. They dont look like rubber, so maybe oil is disbursed in rotary chamber.
@baghdadwarrior039
@baghdadwarrior039 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Connecticut too! This will be the first thing I do to my rx8. Looking for shops around here. Not many.
@rockervdrive
@rockervdrive 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man! I think Mazda should've done this from the factory. Owners already have to learn new rotary engine quirks like revving it before shutting it off, so I wouldn't think that adding another oil reservoir to keep an eye on will scare people away.
@JIMWSMITH
@JIMWSMITH 6 жыл бұрын
You only have to rev them if you turn it off when cold!
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man 👍
@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky 6 жыл бұрын
Most people ride a two stroke motorcycle and I've seen them having no problem regularly top up the oil so yeah as long as there is a low oil level light indicator in a cabin there should be no problem.
@Rotary12A
@Rotary12A 6 жыл бұрын
They had to pass emissions that’s why they designed it the way they did
@indianmarshmello.
@indianmarshmello. 9 ай бұрын
@@JIMWSMITH noted
@jacobbogardus6006
@jacobbogardus6006 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos dude I have an RX eight that I am working on trying to fix a problem that I have with it not having any power but it does have compression. I’ve been a fan of our sites for a long time. Your garage is the garage that I would like to have be thankful that you have what you have I knowThat you are. If it’s not too much for me to say I think you are very handsome guy.
@chrismcneil8913
@chrismcneil8913 4 жыл бұрын
If you still have a Cadillac converter get rid of it
@giyoon215
@giyoon215 6 жыл бұрын
Good learning channel!
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@zachfisher8393
@zachfisher8393 Жыл бұрын
😂 i use the marine stuff too. Also used some 2 stroke designed for oil injection systems
@brianrobinson9979
@brianrobinson9979 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you tried to sweep the wiper fluid coming out of the reservoir hose under the rug 😅... I noticed
@57rotary
@57rotary 4 жыл бұрын
don’t have the OMP Sohn Adapter yet which I saw you installed in your KZbin Video, however have you tried putting fuel and oil in the Sohn Adapter Reservoir also known as premixing to see if the engine will behave better? I know For sure that Wankel (the inventor’s) first original rotary had a carburetor attached to the eccentric shaft because the eccentric shaft turns 3 revolutions for every 1 of the rotor. And I know that Via the OMP the fuel would mix with the Oil of the shaft and the shaft would make the fuel more combustible because of better turbulence and burn and run better. It would need a very high fuel to oil ratio like 300:1. 300 parts of fuel to 1 part of oil ratio. Of course you would have to see if the OMP pump is working properly by feeling any difference in the engine performance. It was Wankel’s original idea by feeling the whole chamber well with fuel. As we all know the rotary engine with OEM injectors and even aftermarket does not get enough fuel it can really use as it is always turning. Needs to be full of enough of fuel(Vapor)inside the chamber for it to really operate well and ignite the air fuel mixture well . Use precaution and let me know how it goes if you are able to see any difference if you can get it done.
@bbehzadi413
@bbehzadi413 2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine
@neilobusk
@neilobusk 6 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a speed3 or mps as we call them in the uk .... mines on 98k miles had it 7 years orginal turbo but now drinks a little more oil..best wishes Neil
@brianregan4503
@brianregan4503 6 жыл бұрын
you still have to pre-mix once adapter is fitted, to guarantee full lubriaction of combustion chamber
@chrislg4519
@chrislg4519 4 жыл бұрын
Is Sohn oil injection different from premix oil? Or the oils are injected in different areas of rotary chamber? Thanks
@lmartinzr1
@lmartinzr1 6 жыл бұрын
You should look into replacing the plastic radiator for a full aluminum one. Mine broke on the plastic end tank 1 minute from home so I was lucky.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a Koyo is on my list. The car only has 38k miles on it, so I am not really worried about the radiator failing yet.
@thisismytoy5632
@thisismytoy5632 5 жыл бұрын
Great video !!!
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Q I just got my rx8 a close garage to sleep in so it's ON !
@bangzoeli4158
@bangzoeli4158 5 жыл бұрын
RX8 is the best
@elykus793
@elykus793 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Q, ever thought of making a buyer's guide for an S2000 or Miata? What do you look for personally? I think I've settled on getting an S2K, was going back and forth between the C5 vette, S2K, and Miata for a bit. Might seem strange hearing of someone trying to decide between Corvette or Miata but I like a lot of cars lol.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't but if there was enough interest I can certainly cook something up. In the meantime, feel free to reach out to me in the meantime if there is anything I can help with.
@kcerror8532
@kcerror8532 6 жыл бұрын
Can you provide the link for this kit I really love your videos so underrated. I have a yellow 04 rx8 and I want to extend the life of my rotary
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Just search SOHN RX-8 on ebay. You can buy just the adapter or the adapter and the reservoir kit like I did. I think I paid around 225 bucks total.
@allicat001
@allicat001 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, they have realy helped with maintaining my RX8 but I just wanted to ask, what happens to the oil from the origional metering pump does it still get injected or is it blocked off somehow. If it's not blocked off you can't change to synthetic oil as per your sugestion. Keep up they great work it's much appreciated.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The SOHN adapter blocks off the oil passage to the engine and pulls premix from only the external reservoir, which is delivered to the housings just like stock.
@Jorge-ku1zz
@Jorge-ku1zz 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle thanks for you video. Want to ask if i can use the same oil that i am using already for my engine or to i need to get a especific one? Also just want to make sure when you installed what it does is it gives more oil than the original pump right?
@larrybrown9279
@larrybrown9279 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same amount of oil as stock, it's just that it's clean oil and much better of a completed burn than the previous used stock pumped engine oil.
@BrazenBuckW
@BrazenBuckW 4 жыл бұрын
Where can i get a Sohn adapter?
@eatingtolive9602
@eatingtolive9602 4 жыл бұрын
Great shoe love it. I just picked up my RX8 2004 with a new engine installed by Mazda with 200 miles. Can you please help me find the metering pump please
@3toedSloth75
@3toedSloth75 5 жыл бұрын
The SOHN clean oil supply adapter for the OMP and Premix (adding 2-stroke directly to the fuel) are 2 completely different things. Please correct the text on this video and description.
@joplinboy
@joplinboy 3 жыл бұрын
love the install. Now all I need it to be able to actually find the adapter and bottle kit for sale somewhere. Can anybody help with that?
@LEVELRAZOR
@LEVELRAZOR 3 ай бұрын
After all this time was it worth it and how is it when racing?
@richmalloy6174
@richmalloy6174 6 жыл бұрын
Love this!! Super handy information great work all round, Do you still premix in your gas?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! No, I no longer premix in the gas for daily duties, for track stuff I throw .5 oz per gallon in for a little extra jam ;)
@richmalloy6174
@richmalloy6174 6 жыл бұрын
The Slip Angle can i ask do you have any recommendations for what 2 stroke oil to use? grade? synthetic/mineral? i live in Australia and don’t have easy access to idemitsu premix, some say any 2 stroke is ok just wanted to ask your thoughts
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Can you get Castrol Super Outboard 2 there? I ran that stuff for years with good results up until it became difficult to get in the US.
@richmalloy6174
@richmalloy6174 6 жыл бұрын
The Slip Angle there appears to be a Castrol 2T motorcycle oil near me and Castrol outboard 2T oils available but not as close, im guessing either would be ok? the outboard stuff seems cheaper too! but if you think outboard i’m sure i can find a suitable one, thanks again so much for your time and patients 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
I only have experience with the Super Outboard 2 stuff so I can't really comment on the motorcycle one. I'd make sure it is combustion chamber safe and meets the same criteria as the Outboard one.
@chrisnichols6451
@chrisnichols6451 5 жыл бұрын
So if u are not supposed to use synthetic oil in the motor cuz it doesn't belong anywhere near the combustion chamber then why is the premix oil u recommend synthetic?
@3toedSloth75
@3toedSloth75 5 жыл бұрын
That advice is based on '90s and prior oil tech. Modern synthetics are usually fine, but it depends a bit on the additive package. Some have too much zinc which is bad for cats.
@tnutss
@tnutss 4 ай бұрын
What do you use for the engine oil after the install? Weight and brand.
@chrisfox4087
@chrisfox4087 Жыл бұрын
Long shot but does anyone know if these parts can be ordered separately? If so, a link would be very much appreciated!
@AnythingGoesJoJo
@AnythingGoesJoJo 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I can install one of these on the Series II RX8
@NateRist
@NateRist 6 жыл бұрын
There is no soon kit for the series 2, we are just SOL there
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone make a block off plate for S2 OMP? That way you can just premix in the tank.
@ChoPi-Eww
@ChoPi-Eww 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a battery relocation kit for the RX-8?
@iamlinxx_
@iamlinxx_ 3 жыл бұрын
Awwwww man my RX8 oil memtering pump position sensor has snaped and it doesnt look like you can buy the sensor seperately and this method seems to still require the sensor...
@kwke13
@kwke13 5 жыл бұрын
Hello,new sub,great videos :) my question is will the plastic hose from the reservoir to the adapter last from all that heat from the engine?
@jerryglennie5375
@jerryglennie5375 4 жыл бұрын
I routed mine zip tied next to the rad hose under the battery tray. You may want to try that to keep it farther from the exhaust
@PlayTrickshots
@PlayTrickshots 2 жыл бұрын
Question: Recent purchase a RX8 04’ luckily has this installation mod installed already , and purchase me some rotary premix synthetic fuel lube. The tank is empty and doesn’t have premix in yet. Do I fill it up all the way up to the line and add some quarts on fuel tank too or not necessarily have to put in premix in fuel tank ??
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad thing to throw some premix into the fuel before a lot of hard driving.
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
I bought one and I'm powder coating the bracket to make it nicer
@iamlinxx_
@iamlinxx_ 4 жыл бұрын
My Rx8 oil metering pump seems to have failed so I thought this maybe away of replacing it as it costs over £1300 (approx $1500) from Mazda, but you still need the OEM pump for this to work damn it lol
@She1lby
@She1lby 3 жыл бұрын
Premix hard may be a temporary solution for you.
@iamlinxx_
@iamlinxx_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@She1lby I fixed it now. I took the car apart what happened was the plug (Oil Metering Pump Sensor) was broken I dont know how so I just replaced and reset the OMP sensor. Thank you for the advice though I really appreciate it.
@She1lby
@She1lby 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamlinxx_ Damn you fixed everything by yourself that's awesome. Btw what oil \ premix do u use?
@iamlinxx_
@iamlinxx_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@She1lby I had help from a friend and it was a lot of trail and error to be honest. Everyone was telling me you cant replace just the oil metering pump sensor and you need an entirely new oil metering pump but thats like £1400+. As for premix I use Idemitsu (I think thats how you spell it).
@She1lby
@She1lby 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamlinxx_ Nice, you just pour it in fuel or is it inside your sohn adapter?
@bencevarga6304
@bencevarga6304 Жыл бұрын
Just a question! If the pump creates a given vacuum and timing at a given rpm, wont the amount of oil that gets into the combustion chamber change due to the lower viscousity of the cold oil? What are your experiences with engines that ran a SOHN adapter without changing the pump's timing through the ECU?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle Жыл бұрын
It would inject the same amount per RPM as a factory car.
@bencevarga6304
@bencevarga6304 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle Thanks!
@alluvz2fish
@alluvz2fish 4 жыл бұрын
Think of picking up an RX-8. You fill the Sohn adapter with PREMIX. But do you also add PREMIX to your fuel?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 4 жыл бұрын
I only add a little to the fuel tank if I am going to put it on track where I will be at a sustained high RPM.
@alluvz2fish
@alluvz2fish 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle Last Sunday, I picked up a 2009 RX8 R3! Thanks for all the videos on upgrading the RX8's. I live in SUCKY California were we have CARB. So there's not a whole lot I can do to sup up my car. :( So unless you're taking you car to the track, there's no need to premix the fuel after you install the Sohn adapter?
@Jmarquez43
@Jmarquez43 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle Quinn , does preMixing at the fuel tank have any negative impact on the fuel filter, fuel pump and or fuel injectors/fueling system ?
@harris_spiliopoulos
@harris_spiliopoulos 2 жыл бұрын
Shon adapter cooperates with the oil pressure regulator ;;
@rallyguden9091
@rallyguden9091 3 жыл бұрын
Just did this, snapped one omp bolt so the process took 9 hours instead of the 3 hours i planned it to take smh.
@jesselindsey9325
@jesselindsey9325 6 жыл бұрын
Do you use the idemitsu oil in the engine also? I’m getting ready to install a metering pump but I run royal purple in the engine so I wanna clarify if I should switch or not, thank you. Great video btw!
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
I run Royal Purple HPS 10w-30 in the engine for this car.
@Edd90k_
@Edd90k_ 6 жыл бұрын
I'm tempted to get one, but what would the owners recommend for someone new to rotaries? start up, warmup, shut down procedures?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
They are not nearly as finicky as people make it sound. The flooding thing was only really an issue on early 04-05 models with earlier firmware versions. I can shut the 06 off after moving it a couple feet when cold and it doesn't flood. I don't know what firmware flash it is on, but I would assume it is a later one.
@vivigarr
@vivigarr 6 жыл бұрын
It primarily is caused by the stock ignition system. The start engine is really weak, and is not strong enough to really ignite completely leading to a flooded engine and then you're all sad because you're spark plugs are soaked. Best thing to do to fix it is to upgrade the starter engine to a 2.2kw starter from the stock 2.0kw one as well as make sure you replace your coils when needed. Sometimes I get to work where the needle is below empty and I just have to hope I can make it to the gas station across the street when I get off work (I should start carrying a gas can with me in my trunk, eh?) and I can shut it off cold to put gas in. It has started up every time that's happened, but sometimes it'll lag for about 5-6 seconds and get me really scared because I don't wanna have to deflood the thing in the gas station parking lot >_
@ChesterBD1
@ChesterBD1 6 жыл бұрын
Edd Stance Honestly I have a 04 rx8 and as for the flooding issues, never had any. Even if I stall after starting. What I do for a "start up procedure is I let it run untill the idle dies down a little bit. When you first start the car it will idle high and be sending a lot of fuel into the system, but only for a minute after that it should really be fine. And in case anyone asks it's the factory s1 starter lol.
@zimmermannCH
@zimmermannCH 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video. But what are those rims? I love them on the rx8
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Enkei Kojin 18x9.5 +30. There is also a video on them and the coilover install back a little :)
@ve2430
@ve2430 2 жыл бұрын
Where'd you get this kit? Doesn't seem available anymore with the plastic tanks
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 2 жыл бұрын
eBay years ago
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 6 жыл бұрын
Washer bottle is tiny, this is not going to cut it in sunny England I'm afraid.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
You can always make your own if you want more capacity.
@heribertolebron2321
@heribertolebron2321 3 жыл бұрын
where can i get this kit??
@robinmrozowski1281
@robinmrozowski1281 5 жыл бұрын
Howdy, great video and thanks for posting. Now that it’s been a while since install would you still recommend installation and have you had any issues with the system? Also is the adaptor designed so that if you run out of 2-Stroke oil in the adaptor reservoir it will then draw on the sump engine oil as a back up or does the engine oil and 2-stroke oil work together at all times? Thanks, Robin.
@jakeowens5580
@jakeowens5580 5 жыл бұрын
No by installing the sohn adapter you're blocking the engine oil and only drawing from the reservoir ..(clean oil) so gotta make sure reservoir stays full... hope that helps...??
@Jorge-ku1zz
@Jorge-ku1zz 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeowens5580 hey! Also can you use the same oil that you are using for your engine or need to get a especific one for the reservoir? Thanks.
@jakeowens5580
@jakeowens5580 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jorge-ku1zz I use rotary specific oil. Called Idimitsu racing lube. any good 2 stroke oil will work though. You want something that's ment to burn off clean after it lubricates... I order several quarts of idimitsu off of ebay or amazon fairly cheap. Hope that helps
@Jorge-ku1zz
@Jorge-ku1zz 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeowens5580 yes, i use regular mobil one in my rx8 because i was not sure wich one was better i think i will order idimitsu thank you for your help. What size you think i can use 5w-30?
@jakeowens5580
@jakeowens5580 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jorge-ku1zz run the idimitsu rotary premix in sohn reservoir. And mobile one for the engine is good.. I still use 5w20 only cause the Mazda manual says to but alot of people use 5w30 or 10w40..
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, so when installing the SOHN. The oil in the engine is completely blocked from the injectors, thus we can now use synthetic oil ?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
That is correct!
@Ignystix
@Ignystix 4 жыл бұрын
Hey b055, just a quick question, I have looked all over the place and i'm trying to dial my ecu in for longevity. I have been unable to find a good radiator fan turn on temp to kick on the fans while i'm at idle and at a light, my most recent tune has the fans coming on at 205 C but I don't think it should be that high, I have a SOHN and vett coils upgraded with a K&N high flow air filter and stock box, I want to set my fan turn on temp before my exhaust comes in within the week. Could you shed some insight on rotary engine and coolant temps so I don't have the fans keep the oil too low, I use 5w40. Also I have been able to find the 2-stroke marine oil that you have not been able to find if i'm not mistaken. The blue colored outboard oil. I get it online with no issues.
@andersanders845
@andersanders845 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! WIth this mod, do you also pre-mix in the gastank? Or is it now unnecessary? Thanks
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
The series 2 cars received additional oil metering squirters, so in a track situation I would probably premix in addition. Daily driving, I do not premix on top of this.
@andersanders845
@andersanders845 6 жыл бұрын
thanks. From what year is "series 2" ?
@of_lion22
@of_lion22 6 жыл бұрын
2009 - 2012
@1sinister80
@1sinister80 Жыл бұрын
Should the small oil leed tube be filled with oil if the sohn is running properly? I just installed and I premixed extra heavy just until I know the sohn is working. I don't see oil in the small tube but it seem that the adaptor is pulling in oil. I haven't run if more than 5 mins because I don't want to damage. Any thoughts.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle Жыл бұрын
That I am not sure about. I just ran premix in the fuel tank in conjunction with adapter and made sure that the oil level in the sohn resevoir was dropping with driving
@1sinister80
@1sinister80 Жыл бұрын
@TheSlipAngle That's what I'm doing too. I am running heavy until I see that level mark drop. Thank you.
@Antonioklaus
@Antonioklaus 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 questions. 1. Why do you have to remove the air box? 2. The Idemitsu premix you use says it's Synthetic brand. Is that an issue? How is it different than Synthetic oil? Nobody seems to be able to answer that question for me.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 4 жыл бұрын
The airbox is just in the way of getting access. Premix is meant to be injected into combustion chambers and burns clean. Synthetic engine oil is not and does not burn clean. You can run synthetic engine oil when you get rid if oil metering from the crankcase
@Antonioklaus
@Antonioklaus 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle ok. It just confused me since it says it's synthetic premix. I didn't know the difference between the Premix and oil being synthetic. I appreciate it. You didn't drain the oil or radiator correct?
@robertmontgomery7158
@robertmontgomery7158 6 жыл бұрын
Why not just premix and remove OMP? Do you need a SOHN if you premix?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
You do not need the SOHN if you premix. It might actually be more work to delete oil metering all together vs running the SOHN. Given that the car is my daily driver, I just wanted the convenience that the SOHN offers vs adding oil into the tank with every fill up. I straight up premix in my RX-7s though.
@robertmontgomery7158
@robertmontgomery7158 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and thank you for your answer.
@juggnautbitch
@juggnautbitch 6 жыл бұрын
Because you need the oil injection more for keeping side seal temps down, side seals are the weakest link in the renesis due to the exhaust port location.
@Dollsofgod
@Dollsofgod 5 жыл бұрын
While not a huge issue when you're off throttle decelerating the ECU cuts off the fuel injectors, if you only premix and cut off the oil injection your engine wont receive lubrication during that period of time. Now like I said before it isn't a huge issue since the porosity of the metal holds onto some of the lubrication and usually decelerating this way is done for very short periods of time so I haven't heard of any motors using only premix failing from lack of lubrication. A good many race engines only use premixing for lubrication as well and don't seem to suffer from decel fuel cut under race conditions but it's also recommended to use a high ratio of premix to fuel in race conditions. While daily driving however there can be times of extended decel fuel cut, I live in a valley and one of the hills coming into it lasts a good 2 minutes coming down. While I premix only I always put the car in neutral and use my brakes instead of engine braking because the thought of the engine going that long without any internal lubrication doesn't sit well with me. If you use this adapter and premix you can get the best of both worlds knowing that at all times your engine will be receiving lubrication as well as the lubrication coming from dedicated and clean sources specifically for this task.
@alexgerling3686
@alexgerling3686 5 жыл бұрын
would i be right in saying this would be a good option if you daily drive and eventually want forced induction, so its a way to help keep temps down over just premixing?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 5 жыл бұрын
This is to prevent injecting hot engine oil as the means for lubricating the apex seals which is more ideal for any situation. If you are going big power or tracking the car, it's a good idea to premix a little in the gas as well.
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man how's it been, question in the event that the rx8 flood, do the sohn get the plugs saturated in the de-flooding process? Please get back with Intel, if possible
@ruiyantang9222
@ruiyantang9222 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, just wanna ask if my rx8 has headlight washer. Does it make the installation different?
@richmalloy6174
@richmalloy6174 5 жыл бұрын
i have a RHD kit any tips for a good way to run the new oil line?
@nicklush3935
@nicklush3935 3 жыл бұрын
do you have to get anything programmed to remove the check engine light ?? just curious to how this work because im getting a P1688 code on my rx8 so im thinking my omp is bad which is causing it to go into limp mode,
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 3 жыл бұрын
No check engine lights from this mod.
@HDP501
@HDP501 6 жыл бұрын
FYI... the adapter is made of aluminum.
@Shinn_S
@Shinn_S 6 жыл бұрын
Hello there, I`m a RX8 owner. Just want to know how is everything going with this kit after you have installed it for such a long time? Any reliability issue?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
So far so good, but keep in mind the car has been parked for most of the winter. I've put maybe 2k miles on it with the adapter.
@tonydavila2606
@tonydavila2606 6 жыл бұрын
How's it going now? Haha. I'm buying an rx8 soon.
@minecraftryan9341
@minecraftryan9341 2 жыл бұрын
How large is the container? How often do you have to fill it up?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 2 жыл бұрын
Holds almost 2 quarts
@minecraftryan9341
@minecraftryan9341 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle so would this be good to do if I don’t premix, I want to, but as of now I still have the stock exhaust.
@minecraftryan9341
@minecraftryan9341 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle also do you still need to do oil changes? Fill your car up with oil? Sorry lots of questions, hard to find answers online.
@minecraftryan9341
@minecraftryan9341 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle I have also looked everywhere and cannot find a full kit online
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 5 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion about 100:1 2 stroke oil, like Amsoil? Have you ever used them?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried them. I've had good results with the idemitsu so that is why I've just been sticking to it.
@lagunacorona
@lagunacorona 4 жыл бұрын
Premix or if you can afford ceramic seals, Imagine both?!!!!!
@markcatt5088
@markcatt5088 5 жыл бұрын
Question, my oil metering pump isn't working so I've been just pre-mixing manually everytime i go to the gas station, now my question is, will the kit work if your OMP isn't working?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, the Sohn adapter is dependent on having a working OMP pump. Do you know where or why yours is not working?
@markcatt5088
@markcatt5088 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle Not really certain on how it why it isn't working. The only diagnosis or signs that it isn't working is, my car drives poorly and doesn't burn oil anymore. Whatever amount of oil i put in, after 3 months its still the same amount.
@MsMelsmell
@MsMelsmell 4 жыл бұрын
Mark did you figure out what the problem was? I'm having the same issue my omp is throwing my rx8 into limp mode and I'm finding stuff on resetting it without replacement . Just curious what route you took?
@yandelrios9458
@yandelrios9458 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Q do you still have to put oil to the engine after doing that?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
Hello bro, i have a 05 rx8. Does the mount bracket need to be cut to claer the header or any header? Any info I'll appreciate
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Frank, I didn't have to cut anything to make this header work. I don't think that is typical for the RX-8. You will most likely have to disconnect the engine mount though to install.
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Quinn Motors i understand, I might have bought a cheap header. Thx for info
@Gmgm-sk8ds
@Gmgm-sk8ds 3 жыл бұрын
steep price for the sohn kit, same effect can be done with about $20 maybe I should do a video. Ill call it poor man' 2cyl oil meter adapter. Pretty simple to do.
@rotarycomptech
@rotarycomptech 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how you could possibly do that for 20 bucks
@josegoncalves7903
@josegoncalves7903 3 жыл бұрын
With the sonh adapter do you need the oil coolers?
@mokokawi
@mokokawi 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...still need to cool motor oil
@shaneduncan2996
@shaneduncan2996 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is your daily, but what light weight batteries have you had good luck with?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
I had a bad experience with Braille so I won't ever be using their products again. I have heard a lot of good things about Shorai and am probably going to try them next and for this car to further the weight reduction.
@shaneduncan2996
@shaneduncan2996 6 жыл бұрын
I have used a small agm which only lasted a year. I am thinking about going with a sized miata battery next time. I have been using a penzoil/quicksilver premix from wallmart for 25k miles. Not that it is better but it works well as far as I can tell.
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
I have used Quicksilver in the past when I needed to grab something quick locally. No issues.
@DCGULL01
@DCGULL01 6 жыл бұрын
+1 GQM on Braille x 2- failed on different DD project- ECU reset, lost stereo- PITA to fix. Rotaries start 'pig rich' and need lots of juice to spin starter fast- to prevent flooding motor. Since de-flooding 13-B is also a PITA (oil change for the OCD), I'd rather go AGM, maybe even a Optima Red Top 35 R- reversed terminal- and, reduce weight in other ways. Heck, even new, I run a small trickle charger off season, clean grounds and consider swapping ground straps all the time. Since ignition is the motors weak spot- I hate to fool around with anything that might compromise it. I've read mixed bag reviews on Shorai Lithium batteries- not sure if I understand its properties well enough to run with confidence. I have an '08, and, stayed away from '04 & early '05's, so I wouldn't have to worry as much about replacement motors. Maybe overly cautious, but- don't want a pretty paperweight, or, robust boat anchor. Can't afford a re-build on top of: purchase price, mods & running expenses!
@JIMWSMITH
@JIMWSMITH 6 жыл бұрын
How many miles do they say the filled tank will last. And whats the price of the kit.
@lmartinzr1
@lmartinzr1 6 жыл бұрын
Jim Smith about every one-two oil changes. You can buy it on eBay for less than 300
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
The tank holds almost 2 qts of fluid, so you can go a decent amount if you factor in that stock injects about .5 quarts every two tanks of fuel. I like the ease of not having to check the dipstick all the time and just being able to look at the tank to see if I need to add or not. So far it's been working out well.
@chengboyan6790
@chengboyan6790 6 жыл бұрын
Jim Smith I never calculated. But I believe the full tank will last at least 3k miles.
@ChesterBD1
@ChesterBD1 6 жыл бұрын
I have a sohn, and I fill it up oh every month or more. But I drive my 8 hard. Real hard
@nickruales6798
@nickruales6798 6 жыл бұрын
Do you still have to get an oil change every 3k miles even with the adapter ?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
I change oil when it gets dark and typically that happens between 2-3k miles depending on the car. The RX-8 I still change a little before 3k miles.
@jbr_cava
@jbr_cava 4 жыл бұрын
why not change it every 2-3k? it's by far the cheapest way to make sure your car doesn't explode!
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Q what's up how you been?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Good man, you?
@Rotary12A
@Rotary12A 6 жыл бұрын
This sucks because the whole reason we premix is because the omp Does not keep up at high rpm is using the same omp pump yeah is 2 stroke oil being objected but at that price I rather just premix lol
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
You can still throw some premix into the tank if you are going to run a track day or be at sustained high RPM for a while. This prevents oil being pulled from the oil pan and being injected into the motor, which means no more constantly monitoring oil levels and now being able to run full synthetic oil.
@bradmarfell234
@bradmarfell234 2 жыл бұрын
What type of oil do you use
@devonswindell9735
@devonswindell9735 2 жыл бұрын
Coconut
@bradmarfell234
@bradmarfell234 2 жыл бұрын
@@devonswindell9735 FUNNY REAL FUNNY
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 2 жыл бұрын
Royal Purple HPS 10w-30. I have deleted Oil Metering.
@Ανδρέας8
@Ανδρέας8 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me what rims are these...
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 5 жыл бұрын
Enkei Kojin
@randyswartz7154
@randyswartz7154 4 жыл бұрын
How much was the kit
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 4 жыл бұрын
225.00 if I remember
@bobgeorge8360
@bobgeorge8360 6 жыл бұрын
How does this not inject motor oil of the old lines are still attached?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
The pump housing seals up the passage way to the engine's oil and prevents it from entering the pump.
@bobgeorge8360
@bobgeorge8360 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Quinn Motors alright thanks
@Shinn_S
@Shinn_S 6 жыл бұрын
Is that mean the four tiny clear tubes are the pathway for premix to get into the cylinder?
@frankyrx8459
@frankyrx8459 6 жыл бұрын
Bob George , so the sohn blocks infeed from the pan. And it feeds new oil from the tank next to w. washer
@bobbobo4748
@bobbobo4748 4 жыл бұрын
should have painted the bracket
@enzouiltremblay2536
@enzouiltremblay2536 6 жыл бұрын
What synthétique oil you use in the engine after that ?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
Royal Purple HP+ 10w30 👍
@bryanhallman8183
@bryanhallman8183 5 жыл бұрын
How long does that bottle last?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 5 жыл бұрын
4-5 tanks maybe? I don't really keep track lmao
@bryanhallman8183
@bryanhallman8183 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle Ok, so it's not like DEF in diesels, where you have to refill it everytime you refuel the car. (sometimes twice on one tank)
@agga251
@agga251 5 жыл бұрын
i get an p1687 error in my rx8, i dont know what to do :/
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 5 жыл бұрын
www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/mop-dtc-p1686-dtc-p1687-dtc-p1688-limp-mode-58119/page1/
@ronaldmelton4481
@ronaldmelton4481 6 жыл бұрын
was the kit a lhd or a rhd ?
@TheSlipAngle
@TheSlipAngle 6 жыл бұрын
LHD
@ronaldmelton4481
@ronaldmelton4481 6 жыл бұрын
thank u
@zackrygrooms3541
@zackrygrooms3541 6 жыл бұрын
They have both. Go buy one on ebay bro
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