Thespian Hoplites | Historical Warfare

[@Spartan265]

I have nothing but respect for the Thespians. Or at least the ones who stayed behind and died with the Spartans at Thermopylae. They had a chance to leave and live another day and yet they chose to stay.

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

That was also all of their military capabilities. Thespiae got practically wiped off the face of the map for a few years by the Persians in the aftermath

[@dinos9607]

Thespis was just a town. Those 700 Thespians that stayed behind with the Spartans were nearly the 50% of their fighting-age-able-to-fight men. We talk about a sacrifice here. Thespians were men of honour. Unlike the Thebans.

[@jarlnils435]

two years later, Thebai destroyed Thespia. Like Argos destroying Mykene. Mykene had send 80 Hoblites into the battle of Plataia. All in all they had perhaps a fighting force of 200 men.

[@scarecrow2097]

Due to its 8 shape we usually call the aspises used by hoplite like Thespians, "Beotian" because it generally appears in coins and other iconography from that erea :) while black might not have been their color, their moon theme might have come with dark blue or purple colors which is equally impressive.

[@duckyface0333]

I love it more stuff on Greece please!

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Gonna try!

[@wankawanka3053]

Thespiae was the greek vity that most roman diplomats inhabited everytime they visited greece for some reason

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

got a video script written about that!

[@AsbestosEnjoyer]

One small detail about hoplon shields: often only the rim of the shield was covered in metal. the reason it's so often stated that the whole shield was covered is because the metal vovered shields have been better preserved (for obvious reasons), than the ones without. another nitpick I have is that, although this video was great and I enjoyed it, I would've liked to see you go deeper into the specifics of what we know of the thespians, because a large portion of your video was dedicated to their arms and armor, which were so homogenous for many city states in ancient greece, that talking abou them offers very little new information

[@jamreal18]

If only CA cosidered Greek Total War as Saga istead of Mini Campaign in Rome 2... it would be much much better

[@wolfvonturmitz5652]

The shields name is Aspis. Hoplon is the name for whole war gear.

[@aryanwitheredone]

Isn't that Diplyon?

[@wolfvonturmitz5652]

Yes, the one with both sides cut is Diplyon. The round one is Aspis.

[@DanielCalderon-k9q]

Panoply is the name of the whole war gear I think the assistant is the spear and the hoplon is the shield

[@DanielCalderon-k9q]

Aspis is the spear, sorry

[@wolfvonturmitz5652]

​@@DanielCalderon-k9q en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspis No, Aspis is the propper name. Hoplon is whole war gear.

[@Rip-Tyro]

THANKS SO MUCH MAN I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE THESPIANS WHERE UNDERATTED!

[@samwill7259]

This guy has got a MASSIVE vocal range, I guess.

[@bosbanon3452]

They look like Myrmidon in the Sparta Facebook game in 2015-2016 , their Shield look same but the Myrmidon in the game only use greek sword

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Yeah I think that started from troy taking the boetiean shield for Achilles and then it just became part of Achilles iconic look.

[@julianmarsh8384]

Pretty good stuff, here. I would add that at various times some hoplites had long leather strips hanging from the bottom of their shields and meant to protect their legs....due to this, Sparta for a time experimented with going without the bronze greaves... And there is some confusion as to how the Greeks actually fought. If tight hoplite formations were meant to throw their weight, literally, into the battle...then why the use of shields or even two headed spears?

[@willbass2869]

You forgot the other use of a hoplon... " *Come back with your shield - or on it* " (Plutarch, Mor.241) was supposed to be the parting cry of mothers to their sons."

[@madman026]

there names still echos to this day :)

[@jackalope07]

At first i thought this was a video about The Spians and i was wondering where in Greece Spia was

[@redjacc7581]

they acted like hoplites :P

[@mojungle3054]

Truly talented Thespians

[@A861967]

My mothers village ❤

[@leonvoelker7639]

That is awesome

[@beepboop204]

[@theromanorder]

Childish me whos happy about almost anything: YAAAY new video, Great gob man i love learning about all the other smaller citys that no one talks about Please for the love of zuse dont stop, Or mabey do some of your old videos like the now 3 year old "history of athans" or other citys, And i would ask weppons but, I know thats gonna be a "youtube"

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

3 years where has the time gone. I'm gonna be redoing a lot of my older videos in the next coming months it's just getting them done really :)

[@theromanorder]

@@AncientHistoryGuy yea i agree its crazy, dosent feel like ive watched you for that long.... Good luck, i know it will be great

[@skooterthekid8069]

They aslo worship the god of sex, and had Drip that could make any Persian quake.

[@micahistory]

interesting video

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

thankyou!

[@chrisbackhouse5730]

How did you afford to use so many Canadians in your video?

[@benquinneyiii7941]

Actors?

[@kmystak]

The Corinthian Helmet wad mostly used at 6th century BC and less at 5th century BC. Not at all at 4th century.

[@AGS363]

Bah, ... it is all just acting!😉

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Badumtish

[@kellysanders5885]

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[@RexOedipus.]

wait. Encyclopedia britannica still calls it the hoplon?

[@AncientHistoryGuy]

Basically all hoplons are aspis's but not all aspis's are hoplons. From what I've research this year it's a grip thing that distinguishes the different varieties. Argive aspis used basically a rope running around the entire rim, whilst hoplons had a solid handle, the Boeotian hoplons as used by the thespians had an actual handle so hence the hoplons classification. You notice that a lot of the shields used in Italy by the Greeks were of the Argive aspis variety due to there being less of a focus on heavy blocks of spearmen and more on quick mobile warfare, whilst in Greece it's heavy blocks of spearmen really until the Macedonians/thessalonians came on in with cavalry.

[@elshebactm6769]

🗿👍🏿

[@samym1694]

Could you please add subs? Your accent makes it harder to listen & it makes me rewind few seconds many times