The ONLY PRIMING Video you'll ever need. Work Smarter! Not Harder!

[@michaelbrockelhurst4227]

I came for the video on primer and stayed for what proved to be ONE OF THE BEST TUTORIALS ON APPLIED COLOR THEORY I HAVE EVER WATCHED. HOLY COW.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Now that’s a compliment. Thank you, thank you. You always worry that KZbin buries your video in a pile of dirty laundry. But it seems it did it’s job this time! 😜

[@paulhargreaves1497]

@@thestateofplay2023 I think we need a part 2 to the inks mixing.........just saying.

[@thestateofplay2023]

What would be in part 2 do you think!

[@paulhargreaves1497]

@@thestateofplay2023 Well......a Dropbox location for the chart 😎. Also, I'd love to know how to mix inks from a CMYK I get from an online colour (say FS as I model aircraft). They omit the white because it's assumed you'll be printing on white. Really appreciate the effort you put into your videos!

[@Kakashi-ip8mg]

No doubt

[@alphagrendel]

Love this. I'm not painting for a Golden Demon. I'm painting to have fun. The hobby needs more of this.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yes I wholeheartedly agree!!

[@Creamzilla]

I am painting for a golden demon 😔

[@alphagrendel]

@@Creamzilla Good for you.

[@elementual]

I'm not painting for a Golden Demon, but I still act like I am and it's kind of a problem. I've got so little done. Lol

[@JohnVanderbeck]

Ironically I'm not even painting to have fun. I hate painting. I'm painting to enjoy the figurine on a shelf. I just want it good enough to not hate it.

[@virrcraft]

oh, and maybe timelines for someone, who might be interested... 00:00 - Intro 00:44 - Welcom to the State Of Play -> About this video 01:34 - The end. ok, joke ;) 03:19 - Rattlecan Single Colour 06:26 - Rattlecan For Contrasts 07:40 - Rattlecan B&W Zenithal 10:00 - Rattlecan Multi Colour 11:45 - Airbrush B&W Zenithal 13:34 - Airbrush Multi Colour 18:37 - Airbrush Multi Colour V2 19:48 - Slapchop Greyscale 21:03 - Slapchop Multi Colour 21:56 - Combine Methods White Drybrush 22:43 - Zenithal Plus Contrast Tinting 23:58 - Main tip from this video and final important things (if I haven't missed anything)

[@ricardohernandezvega8588]

You missed 2:54 - Sick burn on Star Wars Acolyte. Well deserved too.

[@virrcraft]

​@@ricardohernandezvega8588 heh, thanks. good catch xD

[@anthonyd55]

Goat

[@NthnLikeCodeine]

You’re an absolute legend thank you

[@Kakashi-ip8mg]

I thought I was getting a simple video on what I thought I was knowledgeable in, and I got schooled by a genius. Sub earned

[@thestateofplay2023]

I try not to make simple videos. 🤣 wish I did as they’d take less time to make!

[@Kakashi-ip8mg]

@@thestateofplay2023 as a lazy student I totally understand, but as a d level painter trying to improve I really appreciate the work.

[@shawnald]

I've seen a couple of these "color zenithal" vids (including Jon's) but the "how" wasn't explained well. This finally broke through my brain fog. Your on-screen graphics were absolute gold. Your explanation was terrific. Your insights into why we do illogical steps was spot-on. It hurt, but I needed to hear it.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Haha! Thanks. Yeah I think a lot of this hobby is doing stuff because we’ve always done stuff. It’s only when you step back and go “hang on a minute” that you can dump all the stuff that just wastes time. 👍🏼

[@ajemma78]

Sometimes the internet is a fabulous place. I just got my studio cleaned up, my airbrush cleaned out ready to go, and a whole tray of clan rats that need to be primed and painted...what amazing timing. Your original airbrushing video convinced me to get one in the first place (Ultra 2024 again thanks to you.) Thank you so much.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Oh man, that Skaventide box just arrived on my doorstep too. Just when I’d already build and primed what I thought - was everything. 🤣

[@anotherbrickinthegrey]

Aaaand FINALLY a miniature painting video that actually gets into colour theory properly!! Added super-bonus is someone who actually understands that shadows are not black! Loved every second of this video, +1 new subscriber :)

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you. You know I never thought saying “shadows aren’t black” would be so controversial. I mean we all have eyes. We can literally look at them. 🤣🤣 but weirdly very few mini painters seem to reference the real world when painting. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Bluebeast2005]

Father of a son who's getting into WH40k here... this is the best video I've seen thus far! Thank you very much for this; I shelled out the moula for his airbrush last Christmas and was saddened by the fact we only used it for priming. We'll watch this video again together and use your help. Thanks State of Play from across the pond!

[@thestateofplay2023]

You’re very welcome! I hope both you and your son have many years of enjoyment with 40k! Kill team and necromunda next….👍🏼

[@MLGWuba]

W Dad

[@marcbennett9232]

I used to paint figures some 25 years ago, and we always primed white. I remember when people first started recommending priming black, and when colored primers started becoming available. I personally only prime black if im painting predominantly metal or black, otherwise I will prime white or my base color.

[@thestateofplay2023]

And you make perfect sense with that approach. 👍🏼

[@ge2719]

Same, but then I only ever collected 40k, and in my head it always made more sense to me that armour of any kind would be best coated black first. And so my style of painting always sort of adapted the 'proper' method in the direction of having more black areas and generally darker colours. I think the only things I never primed black were my tzeench and nurgle daemons. The bright pink, blue, and green ones. But I did for khorn ones because red looks better over black. Edit. Just thought about it, and at one point I did use red primer on khorn bazzerkers.

[@wigxu]

I normally decide on the colour of primer based on the tone of colour I want. Example; bright red, prime white, mid red prime grey, dark red prime black. The colour theory in this video is real brainfood though and I love the thought of primer being "the first layer of colour". Great vid.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks for saying that mate!!

[@mylittleblitzkrieg7585]

You and I are complete opposites, you paint fast but build slow, meanwhile I’m over here putting together combat patrols in a single day. I absolutely love building models but despise painting.

[@thestateofplay2023]

And you can tidy up all the bins, mould lines and gaps and everything? Wow. I’m impressed. Takes me so much time

[@MrSmashySmash]

Undercoats are perfectly understandable for faster jobs But priming by brush really teaches you to be more financially responsible when you have to prime all of your stuff by hand

[@thestateofplay2023]

Now you tell me. Where were you when I spent £300 on rattlecans! 🤣🤣 It’s mainly a time thing. With two young kids, a job and a YT channel- I don’t have time or patience to prime by hand anymore.

[@MrSmashySmash]

@@thestateofplay2023 oh that's entirely understandable, it's kinda funny going through them one by one and realizing that I have plenty of models to paint

[@thestateofplay2023]

Don’t we all!!

[@darthkek1953]

The cost of rattle cans was the reason I bought an Airbrush (H&S Ultra v2) and a Timbertech-like compressor with tank. Bottles of primer are not expensive, certainly compared to the amount you will get from them vs can, and you can do beautiful gradients. I'm no artist never touched an AB before and I had smooth, perfect gradients within the first 30 minutes of opening my airbrush box. (But I had watched SOP review, and lots and lots of videos mainly Vince Venturella).

[@thestateofplay2023]

I think Vince is our hobby messiah. 🤣

[@savage12k]

I don't paint miniatures. In fact, for the last 25-ish years I've avoided painting anything. Then a few days ago a mask i had bought that was irritating me with its lack of depth and contrast inspired me to break it my old brushes and...ahem... go buy some paint. Searched one drybrush technique, and now my feed is flooded with miniatures. This video caught my eye, and now I'm noticing everything I did wrong on that damn mask... I had completely forgotten over the last 2 decades that "Shadows aren't black." You've earned this sub, my good sir.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you mate. I always appreciate it a bit more when someone who isn’t invested in the miniature topic takes time to say something nice. 👍🏼

[@AzraelThanatos]

Just as a major note, there is still a good use for a black prime. If you're going to be using a lot of true metallic paints, black works really well for that. A lot of heavily armored figures or vehicles being major ones there. Most of my current major projects are more of just a grey primer there because it works well for different things tied into it, and works decently with a mix of metals and non-metals for aimed results.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. I guess I just want people to be aware that there are options. Don’t always immediately reach for the black. 😜👍🏼

[@alexandrebelinge8996]

I sat on my airbrush for years and started a few days ago and omg what was I waiting for ... So smooth, so easy love it !

[@thestateofplay2023]

Such an amazing difference isn’t it.

[@teslacoil4335]

sounds painful, did it leave any marks on ya rear?

[@korvusfilms1]

As someone just getting into the mini painting hobby, and seeing scores of videos, this is one of the most fantastic tutorials that I've ever seen, a perfect mix of color theory and implementation practices, plus even humor to keep it entertaining. Thank you for making this! Subbed and will check out your other videos.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks for saying mate!

[@FranekWrobel-hp7zp]

Binge watching multiple videos a day. Never until now I saved a video to rewatch. You’re a wizard.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Really? Thank you so much. Not even my wife wants to see me that often! 🤣🤣

[@codyott1982]

Im a blood angels player, and I use contrast/speed paints. I suggest doing brown for your base, either tan or light brown for your middle layer, and off white with your drybrush. Or you can do brown base, red, bright orange drybrush. Then do your contrast paint over that. It makes your reds look better.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Sounds like a good plan!

[@codyott1982]

@@thestateofplay2023 if done right, your shadows will be a maroon color (light red looks when its in shadows) and your highlights will be bright red light the sun is hitting them, and everything in-between will be the proper shade of red for how much light is hitting it. Tons better than black and varying shades of grey going to white. I did some like that and they looked ok..... But not right.

[@hollyd8989]

​@codyott1982 is that using the citadel blood angels contrast? How do you do yellow helmets for assault marines? Just started collecting/painting blood angels myself

[@codyott1982]

@@hollyd8989 yea, for blood angels and blood angels red. For my helmets, I go over them in grey then Vallejo model color ivory dry brush first.

[@RamonRodgers]

Right on time! And completely agree on Acolyte!!!!!!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Great minds think alike!! 😜👍🏼

[@Dakarum481]

Subscribed. Love the way you explain things and your humor. Definitely kept me engaged and you seem like a cool dude. Keep up the great work.

[@thestateofplay2023]

🤣🤣Thanks! Next time I have a job interview you can be my reference! 😜

[@thehappyogryn]

Since i started using an airbrush for priming there's no turning back . The amount of paint wasted, and dust created buy a rattle can drove me on to try again and lose my fear to use an airbrush...no turnig back now. Great video and so many tips.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yeah I mostly use rattlecans for terrain due to size and speed. But even then, airbrush is still preferable.

[@Sanguine_Vampire_Lord]

Came here as I just bought my first Blood Angel set, now I’m hooked on this channel. Excellent content👌

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you. Only sorry I can’t do this full time!

[@mortendahl4824]

Amazing! You made this all sensible, so many content creators have failed where you succeeded. So glad I found this. Now, I paint on with renewed vigor :)

[@thestateofplay2023]

Brilliant news! So glad it didn’t confuse people!

[@annihilationtextofficialca8941]

Awesome video. Thanks for the different perspective on priming. I am definitely one of those prime black always guys, lol. I have some new ideas now moving forward that might help me slay more gray a lot faster.

[@thestateofplay2023]

I was the same. I used to get hella frustrated with how many coats I’d need over it though. Then when I was finished I was like “where’s the black gone!!”. 🤣🤣

[@Primordian-P]

This video was relatable, and motivational. After using an airbrush, I'd say that batch painting miniatures without an airbrush feels like painting a wall with a toothbrush.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yea, I once cut my lawn with scissors just to prove to my better half that we needed a decent lawnmower. It worked.

[@Wargoat6]

Thanks!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks mate!!!!

[@virrcraft]

yay, new video! wow, this is so impressive to watch... and at the same time so difficult! my brain started racing 5 times while I was watching it all... and this despite the fact that I already knew a good 60 percent... but don’t get me wrong, it’s not about the presentation, it’s about the material! it’s quite complex (if you’re not in the know), but it’s presented just beautifully! color theory haunts me throughout my life, but I try to avoid it... apparently it has won after all. I need to sit down, figure it out and... hang circles with flowers around my work area

[@thestateofplay2023]

🤣 I tend to look at colour theory’s as A leads to B. So start with one colour and then work out the next. If I want my model to be say, green, I know I can use contrasting purple for shadows as well as dark green or blue because they sit side by side on the wheel.

[@JerryH171]

As an intermediate hobbyist I still learn a lot from every one of your videos! Your combination of narration, graphics and real life footage is really fun to watch :)

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you very much!

[@davidhills7986]

Quick note for Vallejo airbrush primer. It works way better if you think it with the tamiya x20a thinner. Polyurethane reacts with water.

[@thestateofplay2023]

This is where I totally slap my brow and why didn’t I think of that!! It’s not like I don’t have the damn ingredients!! Thank you. Now I can use it up.

[@davidhills7986]

@@thestateofplay2023 it was one of those oh crap moments when I accidentally put the thinner in without thinking as I also use xf2 for white. That stuff is magic. I saw it didn't do anything funny instantly and thought I'll try spray that and wow what a difference. No clogs smooth coverage so now I can use my German panzer grey primer again.

[@thestateofplay2023]

I tried it once with some citadel and got a weird thick soup. I’ll give it another go.

[@davidhills7986]

@@thestateofplay2023 Vallejo primer it works perfectly. I've not tried other paints though.

[@typicalneet]

I know this comments a bit old, but what ratio? 1:1? I’ll have to give it a shot, even if I haven’t had that many issues with Vallejo

[@zakphillips2287]

Thank you so much for this video. Your intricately detailed explanations have helped me understand painting concepts I've struggled with for a while. Definitely earned my sub, looking forward to more videos like this!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jokenarts8312]

Awesome hidden tip, using a Lego plate for a dry brush test! Very cool!

[@thestateofplay2023]

I actually have another video with that exact tip! The one about fidget popper pallettes. 👍🏼

[@naib_stilgar]

This is one of the best painting videos on YT right now, grats.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks mate!

[@Politov]

Helldunkel is my new name for it from now on. Thanks for that 😂

[@thestateofplay2023]

I mean I’d advise against but it really is a great word!!!

[@Gryndir]

Never thought about mixing slapchop and using the multi color prime. Honestly a brilliant move that was right there

[@thestateofplay2023]

There’s lots of stuff in this hobby that are “slap your forehead” moments. Like using Lego as a drybrush pallette. 🤣 or putting a sock on the back of my airbrush booth ventilators to catch all the paint particles.

[@ElRammo]

The quality of your videos is insane. Pivoted from KZbin on the console to my phone just to make sure you get the love you deserve. I follow a lot of other channels intermittently and your commentary making some of the colour theory feel relevant and accessible is just quality. You seem like an absolute pro!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks mate. I guess when you enjoy what you do, it helps to show others.

[@ElRammo]

@@thestateofplay2023 I fixed my comment to be clear I was just saying I watch a lot of other channels many will be familiar with, e.g. Goobertown, Dana Howl, Squidmar etc... They're great in their own ways, but I personally feel like when it comes to explaining "art" concepts you have your own niche which will benefit a lot of folks. Just another comment for the algo, nothing to see here 👀

[@Bigben154]

I just started getting into his extensive and expensive hobby and as an art major, I really appreciate this video. It's helped remind me of everything I've forgotten from school involving color theory and I am SO excited to get into painting my Blood Angels, Jormungandr Tyranids and Thousand Suns! Thank you for the tips!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Ooh! Nice choices on the models!!

[@dodosh9444]

I am rather new to mini painting but come from an art background. Really boggled my mind why everyone seemed to prime in black. In classical painting you would usually prime with your shadow tones, mostly oranges, browns and purples to have a good contrast and mood already. Glad to hear that isn't only me being surprised.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Totally get you. I’m from a fine art and design background and the whole black canvas thing always is me scratching my head. Great for some techniques like chalk or pastel but for bright acrylic paint?!

[@vinicius02able]

Just started searching about the miniature painting hobby and I was flabbergasted on everyone always using black as primer, so I refused to accept it and found your video lol. Coming from a painting background, using black as an underpaint and shadows make everything looking muddy and all of your color theory stuff was on point. Really nice video!!!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks. Well, I applaud you for starting the right way and questioning what you’ve been told. Keep it up!! 😜👍🏼

[@ThorekIronbrow]

Top notch video. Lacquer toxicity, speckly rattlecan zenithals, black spray being the wrong choice for most colours are all things people need to hear. The one thing I'm dying for a good video on is primer durability. Consensus seems to be airbrush primer is far less durable than rattlecan and lacquers so the convenience doesn't feel like a good trade for gaming pieces. Are the molotow acrylics special in any way that makes them suitable as priming? The airbrush primers tend to be acrylic-polyurethane mixes (which assume makes them more hard-wearing) rather than just pure acrylic.

[@thestateofplay2023]

You don’t need primer. Primer is a myth. I’ve got unprimed models from 38 years ago with no varnish that look the same today as they did when I was 10. Most modern acrylic is tough enough to just stay where you put it. Molotow are graffiti acrylics. Designed to work on walls outdoors in all weather.

[@alexandrefernandes6286]

This video is a gem! Thank you so much for this! I came for a video on priming and I ended up with a proper masterclass on colour theory . The coloured primed slapchop is the way to go

[@thestateofplay2023]

Glad it helped. So many people have gone in different directions from this video I’m so happy it informed!! 👍🏼

[@richardlynch77]

Ah. Prime Day. I see what you did there. Great video as always!

[@thestateofplay2023]

I just realised that after I uploaded it as I got the email from Amazon! Not intentional but hey, if it gets a few more views…🤣🤣

[@ThrehaneMiniatures]

Top notch observation! I can't believe I missed that!

[@thestateofplay2023]

I can’t believe I missed that! On Amazon now….hmm, some good deals. And some that are just flat out lies with the same price as before. 😳

[@richardlynch77]

@@thestateofplay2023 I had 12 or so things in my basket, most with no change. But two clear acrylic display stands and Anycubic water washable resin both 20% discounted - I got those. Only so I have more minis to print and display coated in a black primer ;)

[@RedHeadHurricane]

Great video! Love the applied colour theory - too many people are scared of dealing with this. Off to watch some of your other videos (while investigating Molotow paints, didn't realise they were British!) Subbed.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Molotow are German I believe with headquarters in the Black Forest. And they own their own train car for graffiti.

[@RedHeadHurricane]

@@thestateofplay2023 ah ok. Makes sense with the name. On the uk website they were listed as Bristol.

[@thecraftmasque]

when slapchop first started gaining traction i though i would lose my mid shouting at the screen every time "BlAcK is A tErRiBle cHoicE fOr A baSe!" ... glad i dont have to do that anymore.

[@thestateofplay2023]

I think it’s based on the old masters who used it for oil painting. But what is usually ignored is that they painted completely over it and only used it for a tonal guide.

[@thecraftmasque]

@@thestateofplay2023 you're probably right. It was a common issue in illustration too. There's a ton of photoshop tutorials out there that start with black and white tonal sketches and almost all of them end up with a muddy-looking final product.

[@TapCat]

Thank you for yet another video with excellent advice. I just recently dipped my toe in the water of color primer. I needed to paint 16 identical army troops and found a good camo green that both primed and served as the base coat for a large chunk of the minis. Also bought a dark blue primer to get a start on a similar lot of mobsters wearing dark suits. It was extremely helpful but this vfdeo opens up many more possibilities by adding a 2nd color to the mix. I'll definitely have to give that some thought even if my grasp of color theory isn't nearly as developed as yours.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Good option here is to pick up a lighter version of the camo green. 👍🏼

[@fraserskomorowski2311]

The various quips were priceless...white lines, lol 🤣

[@thestateofplay2023]

Ah you’ve worked in 90s advertising too. Nuff said!

[@Clatakesalook]

this guy is a riot !

[@samuelhilt563]

Thanks

[@geoffscammell145]

Like so many things I found your video at the perfect time. For the last 6 months I have been building kits, and buying a few different primers, waiting for it to get warmer and me to finish my indoor spray booth. Not only did I get the most in-depth lesson on priming. Yet there was so much more about beauty of mixing colours right from the very beginning, before even essentially buying any paint. The timing could of not been more perfect, and presented in such a beautiful and insightful way. Thank you so much

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks for the compliment mate, I’m so glad it’ll help you out

[@billcedarheath387]

This is one of those things that the fine scale modelers do well and that the miniature gaming world could learn from. I was a fine scale modeler long before I got into wargaming and I’ve always considered primer color before painting my little dudes because of that. Like the video mentioned, I too always just thought it was a lazy aspect of miniature painters wanting to get armies on the table as fast as they can. I’m now wondering if it is a lack of awareness of such techniques. I often see miniature painters “discover” something like it is some brand new technique that never existed. I’m looking at you SlapChop enjoyers. I’d encourage wargamers to explore fine scale modeler channels and even the model railroader channels. You can learn a lot from those folks and even learn techniques that they have been doing for decades. Techniques that should have been a thing long ago in this hobby.

[@thestateofplay2023]

I, like you, started as a scale modeller back in the 80s so brought much of the concepts over. I think miniature painters got used to quick drying acrylics. There’s are a few things I didn’t continue as we scale modellers don’t tend to touch a model after it’s finished so anything that could rub off got dropped.

[@brionl4741]

I've always said that model railroading and mini wargaming are basically the same hobby. You push your little guys around the board and either go "Choo Choo" or "Pew Pew".

[@craigofcimmeria5215]

This was mint, just broke it down really simply, north east accent also detected so double win.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Aye! Cheers for that! You can take the man out of the north east but he never really leaves the Metrocentre!

[@rev1ction]

I love your mentality on painting! So refreshing and motivating! Thanks for your videos!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yup. My mentality is get it done using the most efficient way possible. Not always the way everyone else does or even the same way per model, unit or squad! 😜

[@AdamWhitehead111]

11:44 yes, because that money is definitely not going to be spent on more tiny plastic men...

[@thestateofplay2023]

Well yes. Of course, but you don’t say THAT straight away….🤣🤣🤣

[@ecarlate]

i just discovered your channel, and thank you for all the advice, going to save me time for my pile of shame.... 40 years of collectionning and no time to paint, i think i have enough until the end of my life lol

[@thestateofplay2023]

You and me both matey!! 👍🏼 I’m determined to get through all of it just so my kids can trash it all when I’m gone. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ecarlate]

@@thestateofplay2023 yeah i'm trying to do the same, finished my new work/pain table to start working. lucky me (or not lol), my son is playing too lmao

[@johnphillips4776]

You all prime black for shading. I prime black because it tolerates the humidity here down south. *We are not the same*

[@ThrehaneMiniatures]

I appreciate the breadth of options you covered here! I've used them all, usually driven by my mood at the time, or enthusiasm level. Great video!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks mate. I’ve started using them all too now just to avoid the monotony of doing the same thing over and over. Makes painting fun again.

[@ex0ne]

Ha, you mentioned The Acolyte, and the video got interrupted with an ad for... The Acolyte! Foil hats on, guys! 😅

[@thestateofplay2023]

Really?! Well I guess they have to push it as no one is watching. I guess that’s how ads on KZbin work, they match them to the words a KZbinr says, maybe?

[@ex0ne]

@thestateofplay2023 it would not surprise me if that's how it actually works. I haven't seen The Acolyte, and more ads won't get me to see it

[@kergankerrosson607]

@@thestateofplay2023 Thats Option 1... Option 2 is "The Algorythm says NERDS"

[@maciejs.5094]

​@@ex0ne well basing your opinion on the word of others is not always the best way to go, you know. When I heard most of the hate is on diverse characters and "space lesbians" I decided I'll watch it and enjoy it. And that I did. Wasn't perfect for sure, but wasn't half terrible as ppl say.

[@DanKeller]

The friendliness of Ben Komets, the knowledge of Roman Lappat, the video quality of Miniac and the comedy of Ninjon all in one!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Wow!! Hi praise indeed! Thanks

[@NegativeNezzy]

I lost it at "a little bit like the acolyte" lmfao. My loves are intersecting.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Gotta get those cultural references in somehow. 🤣🤣

[@nozero1]

@@thestateofplay2023 I didn't think it was a good idea, it kind of loses anyone who does like the show.

[@Fbs...]

C'mon, really??? If you're so fanboy and insecure not to watch the channel just because Will tells you the truth... you don't belong here (and I mean ON THE INTERNET)! They should grow up and open their eyes. Start to see when politics poison a TV show. Learn what makes a decent story and what makes a character interesting! In short, learn to judge a product objectively...🧐

[@nozero1]

@@Fbs... I didn't say that, I said that his point loses fans of the show. That's because if you like the show it doesn't any sense

[@Fbs...]

@@nozero1 I'm saying that he shouldn't care! 'Cause if they DON'T UNDERSTAND MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they're willing to make a fuss over every little thing they disagree with (even JOKES!), then it's better for Will to lose them! Many channels have been ruined by these people with no taste nor culture.

[@AetherMindrex]

Fantastic! Thank you for the great video. I recently picked up my models again after 20 yrs. I was thinking about a lot of these very ideas. I have still been doing art just not painting the minis. This confirmed and also gave me a lot of ideas.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Brilliant. Glad it was a jumping off point for you! Enjoy your models!!

[@The1Flying]

Cracking video as always.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Cheers Scott!

[@Dracoform]

I always come back to your videos, because they give such great advice - be it color theory, airbrushing or even that awesome episode about books (like paper thingies...) thank you!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Ah paper. That old man media. 🤣

[@TheHunch8ack]

Christ, the KZbin algorithm actually came through for once. Instead of throwing me ridiculous videos of Yanks shouting at each other it's everything I needed to know just before I unpack (after buying it four years ago . . . ahem) my airbrush! Cheers!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Not a problem. For the last three weeks I’ve had YT serving me up Ben Shapiro videos. I’ve never once clicked on one.

[@TheHunch8ack]

@@thestateofplay2023 I discovered YT Shorts about 6 months ago (or 'Grandad TikTok' as my daughter was quick to name it) and it all started off lovely with loads of history, science and philosophy. Now I've got a stream of snide 'high value' men putting down rooms full of OnlyFans girls, 'cops gone bad' and Japanese girls in big boots all doing the same dance in the street. And when I click on 'want to try something different' it gives me Korean girls doing the same dance. I'm just waiting for Ben Shapiro to join in. Possibly while Charlie Kirk and Bill Maher provide a beat-box vocal track in the manner of that chap off Police Academy. Time to turn off and read a book, I feel. Thanks for this video anyway. Really handy. I'm a total wuss about airbrushes but I've got to just bite the bullet. I've ordered stuff on your advice: wish me luck . . .

[@thestateofplay2023]

Now I could go a bunch of Korean dancing girl vids! Hmmm, where’s the short feed….😜

[@TheHunch8ack]

@@thestateofplay2023 Maybe the algorithm knows us better than we think. Bayes was right . . .

[@svensvensson2724]

This video made me subscribe. I normally never sub to mini channels. This is my first. I've been trying to tell people you need vibrant colours under your slap slop, but nobody listens. Every other mini channel fall into the black and white trap, making grayish garbage. Hopefully you've got enough influence to stop the insanity.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yes, I hope that too. All these colours and slapchop is still black and white!! It makes no sense.

[@mattyno964]

I used to brush prime everything black. I also used to hate painting.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Do you like painting now? I assume you changed from black to something else?

[@Woodard126]

This is an absolute masterclass not only in the topic at hand, but how all KZbin videos should be done 👏🏻

[@thestateofplay2023]

Really?! Thank you. I’m humbled.

[@Woodard126]

@@thestateofplay2023 concise but detailed, excellent humour, top notch production and awesome minis... What's not to love? 😅

[@dan_zehner]

"Brush on primer is like Star Wars the Acolyte." You sir, are the hero this hour needs.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Ah not according to some comments but hey, I stand by my opinions. 👍🏼

[@lcmiracle]

@@thestateofplay2023 Who are these shills? Point them to me.

[@maciejs.5094]

​@@lcmiracle I am one of them, what are you gonna do bout it bud? Hate me for liking the show more than the ungodly trilogy?

[@rungunninja1289]

The only brush on prime that works is Vallejo black. Even then it still has a few problems every now and again.

[@Prometheus_Williams]

Easily the most informative hobby channel ever created.

[@thestateofplay2023]

I dunno. Bob Ross is pretty good. 🤣

[@darthkek1953]

Vince Venturella dies a little inside when you say that but SOP has fantastic colour theory. VV has elements of colour theory (and he goes through colours individually) but SOP is way head for integrated colour theory.

[@Liopot68]

and we say: "thank you, Marco Frisoni!"

[@thestateofplay2023]

We do indeed! Same art background as me I think. Using fine art techniques in mini painting.

[@ren-x6]

Great tips! Question: with the molotow one4all refills, they are going to lay down as base coats not really Prime layers, correct? They are all functioning as pre-thinned acrylic which won’t bond to the plastic without actual prime paint sprayed on first? So essentially, you would still need to rattle-can everything white prime, then get to the malatow range of acrylic refills to choose my shadow colours and layer up the colour-wheel for highlights from there.. correct?

[@thestateofplay2023]

Nope. The molotow is the prime layer. This whole “bond to the plastic” thing is a myth. Acrylic miniature paint is a plastic. When dry it forms more than enough grip for subsequent paint layers. Molotow is a graffiti paint. Do graffiti artists prime a wall before they paint? And when finished, does it rub off?

[@ren-x6]

@@thestateofplay2023 wow. You are blowing my mind, lol. ok.. thx - You def inspired me.. can't wait to try this out!!!

[@Ultrapive]

The acetone contained in plastic primer like Citadel (or spray like Molotow Premium) is clearly an aid to bind with the plastic as it microscopically "melt" with the surface, but the molotow ONE4ALL is an water based acrylic paint, it will not have a bad adhesion but not perfect for priming, especially if you play with your mini (for expo only it have a good enough adhesion). Paint it on a empty sprue, let it dry and try to scratch it off with your nail, you will see the difference by yourself 😉

[@Ultrapive]

​​@@thestateofplay2023i understand what you're meaning but it's not totally a myth 😅 check the comment i made ...❤️

[@ren-x6]

So if the molotow bonds so well, is it going to be hard to clean it out of my airbrush? Will regular cleaner like Vallejo work ?

[@gregwessendorf]

That "like backstage at a 1990s award show" was way too specific to be improvised.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yes, it was….😳😳😜

[@benrichard7938]

Ok this is amazing. I’ve been painting for 30 years and doing it semi competitively for like 20 and I STILL learned so much. I’ve waisted so much time needlessly glazing… great job man!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks for the compliment mate. From a veteran hobbyist too!

[@jameswilloughby4381]

How this only got 14 likes! Come on guys this guys a top lad

[@ThorekIronbrow]

It's a 26 minute video and it's only been up 25 minutes!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Haha! Thanks, but give it time. I reckon people might be at work. I know I am. 😜

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yeah and after taking 36 days to make this to spray over a 1000 models I didn’t expect any KZbin love from the algorithm. 😜🤣

[@mn01_]

@@ThorekIronbrow 😂😂😂

[@ElRammo]

I’m not sure why but typing in “state of play” I didn’t even get you in my top results. It’s possible your channel name doesn’t help KZbin/googles string matching due to the terms being so common. That said, I do have confidence you will grow exponentially due to the sheer quality of your work.

[@ivoalexander4201]

Your asides totally cracked me up! Great point about greyscale slap-chop. I've been discovering the same whilst slpachopping boardgame minis (ie. 'test models'). Subscribed!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Greyscale slapchop has its place but it’s not as many places as some would believe. 😜👍🏼

[@Meglin1461]

Please don't use normal rattle can paint. It has WAY more texture than specialised rattle can primer. The pigment isn't nearly as fine. And when you're painting something so small, you don't want large pigments. Obviously there is a place in this hobby for normal rattle can paint. But tiny models aren't it

[@thestateofplay2023]

👍🏼

[@giantninja9173]

So any model larger than an old scale space marine? A $5 can is still preferable to a $20 can for priming tanks if the difference is only noticeable if held at eye level under beginner level paint jobs

[@Meglin1461]

@giantninja9173 anything with small details I wouldn't use a normal rattle can primer on. Clogs them up.

[@JERRYR708]

Used Army Painter white primer today for 1st time and never going back to regular primer.

[@marcbowling6451]

​@Meglin1461 out of curiosity have you ever had this issue or are you just repeating internet echo chamber wisdom?

[@tr4ck_day]

Fantastic video. Your channel deserves to grow if you keep making content like this

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you so much!

[@kevinkabal6598]

Excellent video! And still the best extro in the business! Loved your ink mixing video as well! Cheers Will!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Hey Kevin. It is. Isn’t it. 🤣🤣

[@GingerGiant247]

State of Play is a new favorite hobby channel now. I love the color theory, and I hadn't considered the orientation of the color wheel for 'movement' of color. This is awesome.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yeah it’s weird that a simple lock of a colour wheel in place can change colour progression. I “lock” yellow at the top if zenithaling up to white. But often lock a shadow at the bottom. Or a different colour at the top depending on what I’m going for.

[@Josynx]

This is a fantastic guide! Do you have a list of the 5 Molotow base shades you recommended?

[@thestateofplay2023]

Sure. 233 Purple violet. 027 Petrol. 144 future green. 010 lobster. And 086 burgundy.

[@DavidEitelbach]

What a great video. You explain things in such an easy-to-understand way. Definitely gonna watch your airbrush video next.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks mate, I hope these vids help you out.

[@jimskaven5963]

You got my attention with the Acolyte comment, and bought my very soul with the GW social media comment. Subbed.

[@thestateofplay2023]

I like to keep it culturally relevant round here. 🤣🤣

[@alltjagvillkorpish7144]

I'll say: When in doubt, just spray it white. Makes color pop more often! (ye ye, I guess if you looking at this video y'are probably beyond the novice stage, but I have three kids, I do not have time lol) Edit: You still have my upvote, great video!

[@thestateofplay2023]

I have two kids. There always time to at least spray a grey before a white from above….admit it…😜👍🏼

[@danielhall5554]

I will have to watch this a few more times. This is excellent work. I'm glad to see people returning to color theory and not just slopping on the paint. I am guilty of running straight to the white over black zenithal and getting very dissappointed.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yeah I wondered what happened n KZbin. Just seems to be people painting the latest GW boxes thesedays. Like every single creator.

[@michalsqi]

Hello! I've just found your channel and it is an instant autosub! I've been into the hobby for last 5 years, and never ever YT showed me your content. Now I need to catch up :) Love the way you provide information. Thank you, and ... happy hobbying!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you Michael. Nice to know I have an audience and am not just shouting into the wind. 🤣🤣🤣

[@BouvToTheMax]

I always love how you show so many tips and comparisons in one video! I feel the pull towards the airbrush… time to boot up your airbrush videos

[@thestateofplay2023]

🤣🤣 thanks mate! Always good to see you!

[@davidto7112]

This is such a great video! I'm glad it showed up on my feed. You just got yourself a new subscriber!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks David, much appreciated!

[@mmarchani]

Worth it for the colored shadows alone! AMAZING work, man!!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you!

[@user-cj5nk8jk4w]

Just found this channel. Great video! I will have to try some of these techinques and get some colours on my models. Hopefully, it gives me that drive to consistently paint again. I am guilty of doing the black primer. Most of my models are just primed black and i have to agree. Seeing them black vs. Grey does not give me any drive to paint them. Still feels daunting. Will check out other videos for sure!

[@thestateofplay2023]

🤣🤣 yup, black is the new grey. And no one paints that either.

[@patricklinder4493]

Where have you been my whole life? Great content and really funny too. I have been messing around with air brush priming but now I understand it far better than before, so thank you for that. Excited for next priming session (did not think that would ever happen..).

[@thestateofplay2023]

Glad it helped you out mate! Hopefully airbrush and priming isn’t such a pain from now on. 👍🏼

[@patricklinder4493]

It really did! It’s also time to throw out my vallejo primers (white and black) and try some new ones. You’ve been a real inspiration, much appreciated :)

[@BillyTheRealDeal]

Fantastic video - So much truth here. New to the hobby since 2020 and through trial and error coming to much of the same conclusions on priming. Now to get that airbrush.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yeah I think I just help reinforce what many people don’t think out loud. I’m just louder about it. 😜🤣

[@BillyTheRealDeal]

@@thestateofplay2023 Well keep shouting!! Lots of great stuff to unpack here.

[@jesperrahlff3541]

I am stuck with a question: when priming with a rattlecan, its mentioned spraypaint in different colors. Will any acrylic spraypaint do or does it have to say primer on the can? All I have been able to find in my local store was grey primer fir cars

[@Bubba-23nineteen]

I genuinely thought I knew how to prime. Now I have such a better understanding of what I'm doing right and what I'm mostly getting wrong. Thank you, I am definitely going to come back to this for reference.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Glad it could help you out!

[@thomasmccartney2433]

Incredible tutorial and what I now consider as an essential for any mini painter. Excellent job Sir! Have a quick question, how would you go about this approach for models that are heavy on metallics? Like Freeguild Cav for instance?

[@thestateofplay2023]

I’d use a metallic zenithal over a colour. Black or dark blue for silver and brown for gold. Or b&W zenithal and AP speedpaint metalic.

[@jimwake1123]

This video was really helpfu thanks! I've understood the theory behind this for some time but putting it into practice has always seemed harder than I initially thought, this should defo put me on the right track though. I will be checking out those one 4 all paints too for my airbrush cheers!

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thanks Jim!

[@izaiahwoodfy8967]

I've referred back to this video dozens of times in just the last couple days. Thank you so much for this 🙏🏽

[@thestateofplay2023]

🤣 Don’t watch me too much. According to my wife I will get on your nerves after a short space of time! 👍🏼

[@jasonkeogh8488]

Great video. I've been doing grey scale slap chop and as soon as it was said it tends to come out "chalky" I was like... ohh that's me! I've been compensating with extra layers of contrast and final highlighting. I need an airbrush. Definitely gonna try learn some colour theory and try multi colour priming

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yeah slapchop is nice a quick but not always the best looking end result. 👍🏼

[@jh8111]

This guys fantastic, and the interactions with the comments section are great too.

[@thestateofplay2023]

That’s because I read every comment because if people take the time to write - then I should take the time to….sorry, what was I saying? I bored myself to sleep. 🤣

[@somhunt5446]

subbed, I neither game nor paint. The sake of learning and the banter are good too.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Well I thank you for your sun. Maybe there’ll be something to my madness that peaks your hobby curiosity. 😜

[@mikedell3144]

Outstanding video. I've never tried an airbrush before, but you have made some really good points on both the cost and time savings. I'll be going back and rewatching your air brush video a couple times to pull some suggestions and information. I also like your quote on how to sell the idea to the wife. Thanks and keep the videos rolling.

[@thestateofplay2023]

It worked on my wife! 🤣

[@WizardySyrusbloodfire]

Thank you for making this video! I'm new to mini painting and this video is a WEALTH of knowledge.

[@thestateofplay2023]

You are so welcome!

[@MrSquidshark]

This is a 10/10 video that I'll be coming back to again and again I'm sure.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Thank you. I guess I’ll see you again! 😜

[@alphabromega859]

Do you have a color palette tool you use to choose your colors? I really like the priming in multiple colors idea but im just not following some of the jumps you are making when you say “okay now jump across the color wheel so blorgnarg can contrast with fugazi”. Especially the green/purple connection.

[@thestateofplay2023]

Let’s see. Opposite colours on a colour wheel are complimentary. They’ll work together and look mice. So using purple as a shadow for green skin will work. This will work with most opposites on a colour wheel however sometimes spraying one on top of the other is too much of a colour jump to look right. So you’d use intermediate colours to get there. I.e. working around the colour wheel. Now you could use every single colour to get there, but that’s a rainbow overkill so you can “jump” to get the effect you want.

[@bensdn3969]

Hi. Well, the title says everything. I have 2 questions. Maybe one and share an experimentation I did and maybe have your opinion on it. First, we always spray zenithal to highlight, but why not spray dark from above on a lighter primer? Then I wanted to share this. I tried something starting with the 3 primary colors. I considered that blue is the shadow, red is the "mid light" and yellow the most vibrant light. So, on a white primer I sprayed blue from above, red at a 60 to 120° angle and yellow in zenithal. Then I painted on it with diluted paints. The result was very interesting. What do you think about it?

[@thestateofplay2023]

Yes, in the video I reverse zenithalled the Direwolves. White then black from above. Didn’t work so well with rattlecans so I went back to airbrush. I think anyway of getting colour on a model is better than no colours at all. 👍🏼