Why Rickenbacker Guitars Fell Out of Favor

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@theyearsshallrun6641
@theyearsshallrun6641 Жыл бұрын
For me, it’s simply price that stops me playing one. Love the look, love the sound (clean and driven), love the heritage, love that most of my heroes played one. But I’ve never been able to justify the £2.5k+ price point.
@WhoTheFxCkAreYou
@WhoTheFxCkAreYou Жыл бұрын
And then the fear to take it to a gig where you might have it stolen...
@TheBalloonHoax
@TheBalloonHoax Жыл бұрын
Yep. This. I honestly think the day they create a more affordable, even like 1,000$ guitar, they're gonna invigorate a new generation of players to pick em' up.
@phayzyre1052
@phayzyre1052 Жыл бұрын
For me, it’s price that stops me from owning a lot of guitars! One thousand US dollars is about as high as I will go when buying a guitar. Anything over that they can stick it where the sun don’t shine.
@KennedyIvy
@KennedyIvy Жыл бұрын
Its also pretty ugly guitar and doesn't have steller reputation
@theyearsshallrun6641
@theyearsshallrun6641 Жыл бұрын
@@KennedyIvy Agree to differ I’m afraid :) Think it’s a thing of retro beauty!
@iamroberty
@iamroberty Жыл бұрын
I think it's because they're expensive, don't make import models, feel weird compared to Gibsons and fenders, and were never that popular outside of a handful of big artists so there aren't many used ones out there. I think Gretsch was in a similar boat but they started making more accessible models and now they're all over the place.
@fargeeks
@fargeeks Жыл бұрын
I heard they do not even give you a price when you browse them
@mr_bassman6685
@mr_bassman6685 Жыл бұрын
@@fargeeks Apparently Rickenbacker doesn’t have set retail prices for their guitars (only suggested list prices) so dealers can set their own prices as long as they’re not advertised, so that they can be sold based on availability. Honestly, if that means you could potentially get a good deal on a Rick, I can sorta see the benefit in that.
@adamprice3466
@adamprice3466 11 ай бұрын
Ovation needs to use that strategy, they're still making that same Glenn Campbell guitar
@ds97853
@ds97853 11 ай бұрын
You want to get laughed out of the room, show up with an ovation.
@6catalina0
@6catalina0 11 ай бұрын
If you want to play Rockabilly - you need a Gretch - No other electric guitar has that “Wall of Sound” needed to create the true sound of Rockabilly. And no other guitar benefits from the Bigsby like a Gretch. The most versatile guitars are the Gibson ES 335, Chuck Berry, BB King, Steve Howe of Yes, Eric Clapton in his Cream days - and the Les Paul, Slash of Guns N’ Roses, Ace Farley of KISS, and Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin. The Rickenbacker 360 12 string semi hollow body has that chimmy sound that that made The Beatles and the Byrds pick it up and later, Tom Petty and his Lead guitarist. There are many guitarist that play Stratocasters. But for me, the Strat doesn’t come into its own unless Jimi Hendrix is playing. He’s the only guitarist that needs a Strat.
@ACOUSTITRON-mp6tc
@ACOUSTITRON-mp6tc 10 ай бұрын
I don’t care if they are hard to play or unpopular. They sound incredible.
@houseofsolomon2440
@houseofsolomon2440 9 ай бұрын
Fred Sonic Smith thought so - his 450 sounded Amazing!
@Happyboymargarine
@Happyboymargarine 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion. No pickup is as nice as a ric. No pickup of any kind
@martindavies4155
@martindavies4155 Жыл бұрын
Must be missing something as it all sounded absolutely fabulous! Love the sound of Rics
@drewnorth3816
@drewnorth3816 Жыл бұрын
When you were saying it doesn’t handle gain well, I thought that overdrive sound was pretty killer.
@ARONHALLAM
@ARONHALLAM Жыл бұрын
Johnny Ramone was known to play a rickenbacker from time to time
@fossilmatic
@fossilmatic Жыл бұрын
Lol. I thought the same.
@fossilmatic
@fossilmatic Жыл бұрын
This guitar sounds great. Partly it’s because of all the reverb and delay you have going on, but also because the tone is rich with overtones, uncompressed and dynamic. This is especially an advantage when you play rhythm guitar, a lost art these days where most guitarists think two notes a chord will make 😊.
@timothyvanburen3431
@timothyvanburen3431 Жыл бұрын
I own two Rickenbacker guitars and they handle overdrive/distortion/fuzz better than every other guitar I have.
@roughcutguitars
@roughcutguitars Жыл бұрын
"Doesn’t handle gain well" said Paul Weller NEVER :-D
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim Жыл бұрын
I’ve played the same Ric 350 for 40 years. It’s never let me down. It always stays in tune. It takes pedals very well (I especially like a RAT with the Ric). I’ve had no playability issues at all, and doing bends is no problem. It’s like a thoroughbred, once you know how to ride it, you’ll have no other. The light weight (the 350 has a very small body) and a full dual scale neck, so when you’re up by the 12th fret you still have half the neck to go! Mine came with three of those “high gain” pickups. However I removed 2 of them, and replaced them with a Ric humbucker and a Ric “toaster” pickup (toaster/bridge, high gain/middle, humbucker/neck). I also added a Bigsby and a roller bridge. So I had access to a wide range of tones. In fact, during many gigs, people would comment to me how the Ric cut through the mix so well. That’s playing everything from heavy distortion, blues, and even slide. Rics rule!👍
@pgroove163
@pgroove163 Жыл бұрын
I love em'.. just honestly can't afford them..
@FigidiniHillStudios
@FigidiniHillStudios Жыл бұрын
I agree, once I got the 24 fret 350 I stopped playing any other guitar. I agree, set it and it stays set. Such a fun little race car.
@hw2508
@hw2508 Жыл бұрын
Partly proves the point that the Rick stuck in the past and with modification the guitar becomes even better.
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim Жыл бұрын
@@hw2508 well the humbuckers are Rickenbacker, and Lennon had a Bigsby on his second 325, so if theyre stuck in the past, I’m all for it!
@hw2508
@hw2508 Жыл бұрын
@@TR4Ajim No offence. No problem with adjusting stuff to your needs.
@scottlewis4387
@scottlewis4387 Жыл бұрын
The best use of the blend knob is to blend the tone of the neck pickup with the bridge pickup when you have it in the middle position. It's like a resonance control like that, blending in your perfect amount of low end. On another point, I've had my Ric nearly 30 years and it's never been unstable in it's tuning, quite the opposite. And lastly, if you don't think it does well with gain, just give The Smithereens a listen. 🤷‍♂️
@tombeckner404
@tombeckner404 Жыл бұрын
Yes ! Rick through a Marshall!
@samburkes7552
@samburkes7552 Жыл бұрын
..That is exactly correct! Owned 3, 360/12s, one a Harrison model, a 1988 doublebound Fireglo..didnt exactly do it for me like my 2 older 1967 360/12s..I too bad to sell one. a Mapleglo, for a house payment or two..Wish I had it back..Still have my orig Fireglo, sounded front Deluxe 360/12; we met Me F.C. Hall, he helped us get a dealer in Orange CA, then back to Santa Ana. to pick out my 360/12..We got 10% off, Dad paid with ctedic card, was a present to me..Yes, I've still got it. Lots of gigs on it!
@ianbartle456
@ianbartle456 Ай бұрын
@@samburkes7552 Cool story, Sam. Could I possibly borrow your Dad for a little while?!
@hfjjor3681
@hfjjor3681 Жыл бұрын
The sound of that thing just gives me gooseflesh. It’s so lovely. Of course, half the credit for that goes to the player.
@professorweedington4962
@professorweedington4962 Жыл бұрын
Gooseflesh?
@hfjjor3681
@hfjjor3681 Жыл бұрын
It means goosebumps. I think the Brits and Aussies use that term. ​@@professorweedington4962
@j0zart
@j0zart 6 ай бұрын
ive never heard anyone call it gooseflesh 😭 we say goosebumps where im from
@fontcrimes2022
@fontcrimes2022 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 360, has zero tuning stability issues and love the lacquered neck haha
@BretCullison
@BretCullison Ай бұрын
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@RaysDad
@RaysDad Жыл бұрын
It sounds great to me. I've played the same '69 Tellie all my life, but if I were ever to consider a second guitar I'd consider a Rick.
@axesandelbows414
@axesandelbows414 Жыл бұрын
I love both my Ricks. Hands down the best rhythm guitars I've ever owned, and when I solo on a Rick I keep it short and sweet. Moreover, I find audiences love the vibe and gravitate to the sound of an old friend. All I see is grins and smiles, transcending generations as people enjoy themselves. It's why you play. 🎈
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats Жыл бұрын
Well said
@tululublue
@tululublue Жыл бұрын
Ditto. I have a 360 and 330 and wouldn’t trade them for anything. When I track rhythm I try to vary in choice of guitars but so frequently end up with one of the Ricky’s in my hands. Clean to filthy they just sound so good.
@Hiwatt100W1
@Hiwatt100W1 Жыл бұрын
I love mine too. My comments above are similar to yours, Rickenbackers (especially with toasters) just fill out a nice space in a band, and they can absolutely be used to play leads- they just are not fat, but kind of a lean trebly timbre that cuts through the mix. Good example of this the late great Peter Banks when he was in Yes.
@moushunter
@moushunter Жыл бұрын
As a 45 year owner of a 1974 maple 360 model I can't attest to them being terribly well built. The bridge is weak and will start buzzing as the screw ends lose their knurl and fall out of the hole. The neck needs to be set up differently than other guitars. It has 2 weak truss rods in the neck. To adjust the neck you can't just tighten or loosen the tension. You have to bend the neck with your hand and tighten or loosen each truss rod. If you don't do this you can unseat each truss rod and then have to replace them. I have the tremolo tailpiece on my guitar. It isn't the best for maintaining tuning, using the tremolo or not. The guitar is too pretty and feels fragile so it never gets gigged. It does record well though. I have never cared for the stereo feature.
@jackhargreaves1911
@jackhargreaves1911 Жыл бұрын
Important points. Especially the neck problem.
@nuthinbutlove
@nuthinbutlove Жыл бұрын
All of the above!
@nolantaylor656
@nolantaylor656 Жыл бұрын
Rickenbacker has switched to a new single truss rod system. Only the older models forced you pull the neck down and set the rod where it was needed.
@ifarted2hard
@ifarted2hard Жыл бұрын
A 38. Revolver caused it
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby Жыл бұрын
The Truss rod design was changed from 1984 onward. There's still 2, but they can move the neck on their own now.
@AbbieHoffmansGhost
@AbbieHoffmansGhost Жыл бұрын
I've been playing for 55 years and never once have I heard a bad sound come out of any Ricky. My good friend had a brand new 360 12 that I used to play with a 50 watt amp with the master at 10 through a Tube Screamer while my slide was a light bulb. Heavenly sounds.
@THEScottCampbell
@THEScottCampbell Жыл бұрын
Rickenbacker 360's fell out of favor when The Byrds fell out of favor with commercial radio. I bought my used 366-12 in 1975 when everyone in Detroit played Les Pauls unless they played Stratocasters. I recorded with mine for over 45 years. Roger McGuinn and I both had no trouble bending strings and they were both 12 string electrics. Maybe the demonstrator here has sticky fingers. The creep who stole mine in 2021 had sticky fingers. I'm still looking for him. ☠☠☠
@BluegillGreg
@BluegillGreg Жыл бұрын
Sounds like effects mostly. I'd like to hear it straight into a known clean amp like a Deluxe or AC30, with no tone rolled off on guitar or amp. Good educational narrative. Great overdrive sound, I enjoy how the drive retreats as the loudness dissipates, and the clear clean reasserts itself. Thank you.
@brendencarlson5220
@brendencarlson5220 Жыл бұрын
Had a 1982 Ricky 330 24 fret neck. I played mostly rhythm at the time. Had that guitar 30 years and had to sell it for a house payment. Regretted it ever since. Had great intonation all around and I have a very picky ear. Sure, it’s not great for leads, unless you’re John Fogerty, but it was a gem. I miss it.
@lawrencerasmus
@lawrencerasmus Жыл бұрын
I had to sell my Guild D50 and Guild Starfire for a house payment too😢
@brendencarlson5220
@brendencarlson5220 Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencerasmus Sucks, don’t it?
@marcbolan1818
@marcbolan1818 Жыл бұрын
Expensive; narrow frets, etc. i loved my McGuinn signature 370RM 12 and owned a few 330’s which were great. The Jam, XTC, Tom Petty and REM reinvigorated them in the late 70’s & early 80’s.
@stuartpowell255
@stuartpowell255 Жыл бұрын
Johnny Marr too
@Scott__C
@Scott__C Жыл бұрын
It's funny because of all the "problems" talked about, it's not like Gibson has fixed tuning problems in all their years of making electric guitars. And if they try, everyone says they want the old version.
@jonsdavis
@jonsdavis Жыл бұрын
The playing at 5:30 with the ringing open B and E strings -- what I always called "the R.E.M. chord shapes" because of how prevalent they are on Chronic Town and Murmur -- is the sound that made me HAVE to have a Rickenbacker. This was THE sound of a certain niche of 80's "college rock" (which would later be rechristened as "alternative") bands like R.E.M., The Smiths (first album at least), Let's Active and many others. No, they are not good for fast lead guitar playing. If you are a PRS player, you will think that anyone who chooses a Ric must be out of their mind. But if you are a fan of other quirky, "difficult" guitars like the Jazzmaster or Jaguar, the Ric will reward you with tones that you can't even come close to reproducing on any other make of guitar. Also, for what it's worth, Mastery also makes a bridge for Rickenbackers and yes, I installed one on mine as well as my Jazzmaster and Jaguar. Concerns about price are totally fair, even if they can be explained by Rickenbacker never having modernized their manufacturing process. As much as I love the look of the 360, I absolutely couldn't justify the $1000 price difference (this was five years ago) over a 330 model for literally only cosmetic differences and the ric-o-sound dual output jacks.
@TomClarkSouthLondon
@TomClarkSouthLondon Жыл бұрын
All you’re doing is making it sound beautiful, it is an awesome guitar and the unique sound is making me ecstatic😅
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it
@jimnagel5611
@jimnagel5611 Жыл бұрын
ME TOO -- LOVE THE SOUND OF IT
@socallars3748
@socallars3748 Жыл бұрын
I must admit, while you're grimacing and demonstrating the issues you have with the guitar, all I can think about is how wonderful it sounds! @@TheStudioRats
@notreallydavid
@notreallydavid 11 ай бұрын
Am not a musician, but that's a _gorgeous_ sound - despite the drawbacks.
@bigtimehikingguy4976
@bigtimehikingguy4976 8 ай бұрын
he's completely overstating any "drawbacks" that might exist. This is just content creation - nothing more.
@notreallydavid
@notreallydavid 8 ай бұрын
@@bigtimehikingguy4976 I don't know enough to have a worthwhile opinion on this, b. Even if it's nothing but a 'must post something + must overstate to get comments'' exercise, I'm grateful to have heard that tone. I'm easily entertained. Best regards from Nottingham
@Pchristensen20
@Pchristensen20 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1968 Rick 370 with the toaster pickups. It’s fantastic. It does take gain really well. Sounds awesome through an AC30 - all your REM tones are right there. Also handles fuzz pedals great. Smithereens, Fugazi - Rics with gain
@chrispodesta8105
@chrispodesta8105 Жыл бұрын
"all your REM tones right there." Hnnnnnngh 🥴
@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660
@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660 Жыл бұрын
@@chrispodesta8105what’s with the REM hate? They were a great band.
@chrispodesta8105
@chrispodesta8105 Жыл бұрын
@@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660 lol I think you misunderstood the intended meaning of the onomatopoeia there.... To say I like REM is an understatement. No hate from me. Trust me.
@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660
@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660 Жыл бұрын
@@chrispodesta8105 sorry brother. I was just having a conversation with some friends about if you could have any band play in your backyard whether they’re alive or dead who would it be and a friend of mine chose REM. Everyone thought he was crazy for even mentioning them. This was followed by tons of criticism of both his taste in music and of REM themselves so I guess I’m still in defending REM mode.
@chrispodesta8105
@chrispodesta8105 Жыл бұрын
@@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660 I've been in that mode frequently since about 1999 myself so I get it, hehe.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby Жыл бұрын
I have 3 Ric guitars. I absolutely love them. Production of them is modest, so even in dealer's shops, there's maybe one or two on the rack. The guitars are stigmatized with the "jangle pop" genre... but I've played everything from Punk to Country on mine.
@docsspot1953
@docsspot1953 Жыл бұрын
I love the 360 12.
@RandomNonsense1985
@RandomNonsense1985 Жыл бұрын
Stigmatized? Jangle pop is fucking awesome!!!
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby Жыл бұрын
@@RandomNonsense1985 I like it too.... but a Ric can do more than that... that's all I meant by that.
@karmicselling4252
@karmicselling4252 7 ай бұрын
For sure, RICs are versatile instruments. You can play a lot of different styles with them. But they excel at the jangle and chime, particularly the 12 string models. Nothing can produce a sonic landscape like a RIC 12 can.
@TheFlowNetwork
@TheFlowNetwork Жыл бұрын
The 5th knob (blend) deserves a lot more praise! It can also blend between the two pickups when both are selected..which comes in very handy when using the stereo feature. Spending some time exploring the 5th knob can unlock a whole new world of tonal possibilities in a Ric.
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 Жыл бұрын
We used to call a Rickenbacker guitar a Ricky; where did this Rick and Ric bullshit come from?
@Minnevan
@Minnevan Жыл бұрын
@@melvynobrien6193it can have more than one nickname
@dougferrell7047
@dougferrell7047 11 ай бұрын
​@@CapraObscuraPlenty of Americans call them Ricky. Settle down.
@montag4516
@montag4516 8 ай бұрын
The blend knob has always been my favorite knob on a Rick guitar. I would leave all other controls wide open and use the blend as an overall tone/contour shaper.
@rodgre
@rodgre Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those weird guitar players who love low-gain pickups and the tones you got in this video are kind of everything I love. There is a giant, warm, resonant sound with the chambered Ric bodies that this video exemplifies beautifully (Especially around 5:30. You're also making me want a Tonex now because that Matchless model sounds superb!). The one complaint that I have is that the tuning/intonation often seems dodgy. I hear it on this video on -some- chords you play, but not all. I have a 330/12 which comes with a 6-sadde bridge and never seems in tune to me. I purchased an aftermarket 12-saddle bridge which I haven't put on yet, so I hope that helps. There's nothing like the tone, though. If you like it, you love it. If not, it's just not for you. It's a very specific guitar, both tonally and feel-wise (not to mention visually). It's not going to be a Swiss Army knife like a Strat or a Tele, which I could probably use for any guitar gig. It's always going to impart that Rickenbacker sound and because of their feel, you will always play it like a Rickenbacker.
@alholdway2003
@alholdway2003 11 ай бұрын
Great sounding tone and natural sustain.
@Vermonster23
@Vermonster23 Жыл бұрын
I have a Rickenbacker 330. I do agree that the vintage style frets take the most getting used to. In the end, it took me about a month of regular playing to adapt. Other than that I have no issue with how the guitar player is whatsoever. I also find that I really like how mine sounds over driven. I have fenders, and Gilson’s and a couple of Grestch’s and I’m used to switching between them with no issues. Perhaps that has helped me with the Rickenbacker, but it is a really great guitar.
@tedtownsend8933
@tedtownsend8933 Жыл бұрын
Rickenbacker winds their neck and bridge pickups to the same Ohms/output. The neck pickup sounds louder because of the placement (closer to the neck). Most guitar companies compensate for this by winding their bridge pickup hotter. What the blend knob is doing when you are in the middle position is rolling off the output so it matches the bridge pickup or allows the bridge pickup to become more pronounced. Their higain pickups are built similar to a P-90 and have a fat single coil sound. They also wind their pickups to around 11 Ohms… which is definitely on the hot side. They have no problem driving an amp or any type of pedal so I have no idea what the reviewer is talking about.
@ajmillendez478
@ajmillendez478 10 ай бұрын
Well said idk, why Paul here saids that the Rickenbacker 360 doesn't have good overdrive tone, it has a good overdrive tone, mainly the Amp is responsible for overdrive if he used like a Fender, Vox, Marshall or Orange Amp the tone will be good. If he use a different brand im not sure about their curcuit and their tones.
@ngronlund
@ngronlund Жыл бұрын
I agree that they are not like all the other brands. But last I checked, there is a pretty long waiting list for a particular Ric you want. I still see indie bands play these all the time. Kevin Parker does wonders with one.
@Tim85-y2q
@Tim85-y2q Жыл бұрын
To me, they're a guitar that does one thing really well. That's great if you want that one thing, not so much if you don't or if you want/need something more versatile. When you couple that with the fact that they have some ergonomics that are generally considered quite cumbersome, I can see why they're niche instruments.
@mikek8553
@mikek8553 Жыл бұрын
Well said. They are clunky looking.
@sonsauvage
@sonsauvage Жыл бұрын
exactly the point. Anyone whose played a rick or a rick bass knows that, you really gotta love that sound to put up with that instrument lol
@Tim85-y2q
@Tim85-y2q Жыл бұрын
IMHO the basses are better in those regards than the guitars.
@Tim85-y2q
@Tim85-y2q Жыл бұрын
TBH I was thinking more about the fact that many players aren't fond of the necks.
@fargeeks
@fargeeks Жыл бұрын
So what is that one thing they do well?
@thebreakfastmenu
@thebreakfastmenu Жыл бұрын
Every Ric I've played was just lovely. Really fell in love with a vintage 330 that I got to try earlier this year, but alas. I didn't have several thousand on hand. Ric very much has its own thing going, and the price and the fact that it's "different" than a Fender or Gibson puts people off.
@Reidak12
@Reidak12 Жыл бұрын
They’re definitely not for everyone and they’re not easy to play but to me absolutely no other guitar has such a singular unique sound.
@michaelmoon8856
@michaelmoon8856 Жыл бұрын
Gretsch is equally distinctive. In a different way .
@marjeziorny924
@marjeziorny924 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmoon8856 and Guild..
@BlindingSun_
@BlindingSun_ 11 ай бұрын
Fender Jaguar has a unique sound so.. wrongggggg
@karmicselling4252
@karmicselling4252 7 ай бұрын
I agree. The Rickenbacker sound, particularly the 12 string, is unique. It's quite easy to distinguish between a Rickenbacker 12 and any other guitar, including any other 12 string electric guitar. Gretsch guitars do not produce distinctive sounds in the way Rickenbackers do. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a Gretsch and a Guild electric. The Fender Jaguar sounds like many other guitars too. Fender's distinctive sound is the Stratocaster Bridge and middle Pickup "Out of Phase" sound and the Telecaster Bridge pickup sound. Lots of guitars out there but none sound like a Rickenbacker 12. Greco made some decent clones but even those sounded a little different because they weren't strung the same way as the RICs are.
@417DrumBob
@417DrumBob Жыл бұрын
Rickenbacker is small company that sells every single guitar they make in any given year. For me, it's always been their 12 strings. I have two 330--12s, and love them both. Ricks are quirky guitars. You have to adjust to them. They will not adjust to you. but if you make the effort, the sonic rewards are many. They've stuck with their traditional business model, and it works for them.
@johnhulse4124
@johnhulse4124 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine, when I was still a kid, had a Rick 12 string, similar to his idol, George Harrison. He let me noodle on it occasionally through his Fender Twin Reverb, and I was dead envious of his available cash to own such great equipment, but I was also really knocked out by how rich the tone was with that setup.
@worldlycashmoneyenterprises
@worldlycashmoneyenterprises 11 ай бұрын
i have a twin reverb 76 and just use a danelectro 12 string works fine for me. dont have thousands to blow on a 330/12
@shredgd5
@shredgd5 Жыл бұрын
Adding to the difficult bends topic is the long portion of strings behind the bridge. That’s a problem common to other guitar models, of course. The longer is the string behind the nut and the bridge, the more you’ll have to travel to reach the target pitch during bends, because some of the energy from your fingers is lost in those two portions of string (which increase tension together with the playing part of the string, during bends)
@steveo44
@steveo44 Жыл бұрын
I still say some of the best slightly overdriven tones recorded are in the 90s REM records. I believe these were just a Ricky into a vox. I'm not even a big fan of REM just remember the recordings sounding great
@mbuchart2927
@mbuchart2927 Жыл бұрын
I have noticed exactly the same thing. And I would extend your statement to 80s REM Rickenbacker tones.
@liamgillespie3407
@liamgillespie3407 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a beautifully set up Rickenbacker! Some of the most beautiful sounding and aesthetically pleasing guitars ever made. New bands like Blossoms, Fontaines DC, The Molotovs, Alvvays, Tame Impala, all use RIC’s extensively.
@Scott__C
@Scott__C Жыл бұрын
REM's early stuff was a lot of Rick as well.
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 Жыл бұрын
NONSENSE
@jimaronson2323
@jimaronson2323 Жыл бұрын
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers used Rick's a lot
@darkhorse21xx
@darkhorse21xx Жыл бұрын
Tom Petty approves this post!
@RandomNonsense1985
@RandomNonsense1985 Жыл бұрын
I love how Alvvays marries the Ric REM/Byrds jangle with noisy shoegaze.
@MrZipdang
@MrZipdang Жыл бұрын
I have a ric 340 with the extra pickup, and I find it hugely adaptable to all kinds of styles. It just has a sound that really cuts through, especially when you get your head around working the knobs out! My only real quibble is the narrowness of the low end of the neck. I love it though, use it all the time live, and in the studio, and would never part with it! Long live the Ric! Sounds particularly cool through a crowther hotcake.
@poesybeat
@poesybeat Жыл бұрын
The Rick 330 I owned had the most amazing pickups I've ever heard (same ones as in your 360). So much better than Strat single coils.
@poesybeat
@poesybeat Жыл бұрын
I should add that the neck/fretboard design made it nearly unusable, which is why I reluctantly sold it after about a year.
@Lalairu
@Lalairu Жыл бұрын
​@@poesybeatwas it too thick or too thin or something like that? I have always wondered why some people didn't end liking Ric necks
@poesybeat
@poesybeat Жыл бұрын
Yeah, narrow neck all the way up with low frets and lacquered board. Just its own thing that I suppose might or might not appeal, depending on what you’re used to. Didn’t suit me. But like I said, I loved the sound of it so getting rid of it wasn’t an easy decision.
@Lalairu
@Lalairu Жыл бұрын
@@poesybeat I see. Thanks a lot for your reply :) sorry you had to sell it in the end :/
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 Жыл бұрын
I've been in two all or mostly Rickenbacker bands, currently in one now: the guitarist plays a Rick as does the bassist. They do sound amazing and with Rickosound the guitar can sound as if two guitars are playing as the amps and effects can be set quite differently from one another. They're amazing instruments. Btw I'm not a guitarist, I hit things with sticks in rhythmic fashion.
@anfrankogezamartincic1161
@anfrankogezamartincic1161 Жыл бұрын
You are the spine of the band. Without your drumming...they don't exist. I love Rickenbacker sound, sounds like sunshine. Not when LEMMY plays, but i love the guy,he played only Rickenbacker basses,saw few photos before MOTÖRHEAD, he had some other bass, HAWKWIND era?
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 Жыл бұрын
@@anfrankogezamartincic1161 Yeah I wouldn't accuse Lemmy of sounding like sunshine either, haha. I'm not sure what he played in Hawkwind though I have seen a picture of him playing a Gibson Explorer back then.
@hw2508
@hw2508 Жыл бұрын
@@anfrankogezamartincic1161 Lemmy played sometimes a Thunderbird, and there are pictures from the studio when he played other basses. But his go to was the Rick. Although, they changed the pickups I think.
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs Жыл бұрын
Peter Buck played his 6's and 12's on every REM album. That's a ton of great songs and sounds/arpeggios. He had his JetGlo 360 stolen and though the thief asked for a million dollars, Peter offered him 10,000 or 30 years in Jail for extortion..
@void0094
@void0094 Жыл бұрын
He always had very thick strings on his 360. Even flatwounds in the early days.
@Scott__C
@Scott__C Жыл бұрын
I think Peter Buck is vastly underrated.
@patrickhopkinson1851
@patrickhopkinson1851 Жыл бұрын
And a lot was on a Telecaster to begin with and then on a Les Paul from Document onwards.
@paultown6572
@paultown6572 Жыл бұрын
@@Scott__C The only people that under rate him are metal heads
@ianbartle456
@ianbartle456 2 ай бұрын
@@Scott__C I think his negotiating skills may be - though sadly the OP didn't enlighten us with how that all worked out! Anyone know if PB got his hands back on his 360? There's still hope - one of Paul McC guitars turned up after several decades after being nicked from a van in London in the early 70s in the embryonic days of Wings.
@bobmanners8624
@bobmanners8624 9 ай бұрын
I guess "high gain pickup" as a description is relative to the time period used. Rickenbacker switched from their low output toaster pickups (~7K) to their "high gain" pickups in the late '60's. I was surprised to hear your comments on the low output of the high gain pickups. According to Rickenbacker specs the high gain measure about 11.2K - 12.5K. So, with vintage Fender Strat pickups coming in around the low 6K's and Gibson PAF's coming in around the low 8K's, they certainly are much higher gain than those. Admittedly, they are not the high gain ceramic monsters of today's metal, but in the day they were definately "high gain".
@bluemoonie7650
@bluemoonie7650 Жыл бұрын
Sometime in the 1960s Rickenbacker sold guitars under the name Electro. I believe they were sold in department stores as a starter set with a small amplifier also branded electro. A dear friend gifted me with the set his father bought him (he never played it). It was the model 425 cresting wave solid body. The headstock has a square piece of metal with the “Electro” logo.
@chickberth
@chickberth 7 ай бұрын
Those are great guitars, absolutely a true Ric.
@bravowhiskey3239
@bravowhiskey3239 Жыл бұрын
For me, the Rickenbacker is what the best of the 60s sounds like❤
@GaryArmstrongmacgh
@GaryArmstrongmacgh Жыл бұрын
I bought my model 330 when I was totally ignorant about Rickenbackers. I like it. But if I could go back...I'd hold out for a 360. Sadly, the musicians I've played with over the years haven't facilitated the 12 string sound it has to offer. It does sound gorgeous.
@JAMStudiosIE
@JAMStudiosIE 11 ай бұрын
I own this exact guitar. I’ve spent a lot of money on its setup. Intonation wise it’s a total plank and nightmare. I can bend it a 1/2 semitones out of tune by putting pressure on the neck. Love to know how intonation is on this even when you are just playing simple chords on the first 3-4 frets
@guitarman3968
@guitarman3968 Жыл бұрын
I love my Rick 330. They truly sound unique.
@ffm_house
@ffm_house Жыл бұрын
Price might be high, but personally, I think that they sound incredibly good. I own the John Lennon model and a 330 semi hollow and also quite a few Fender guitars (Mustang and Strata). But the Rickenbackers are my absolute favourite. If you've never played one, you really have to check them out once. Fantastic instruments. Reall really special.
@CANNIMAGINE
@CANNIMAGINE Жыл бұрын
Actually, that guitar sounds awesome...Fell out of favor is a catchy title for your video but as you can see from the comments a lot of people still love them. I have several guitars in several brands I was showing them to my granddaughter the other day. She wants to learn to play guitar. When I opened the case for the Ric her eyes lit up and she said "That one is awesome" She is 16, so maybe a new generation of Ric players is coming...
@Scott__C
@Scott__C Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and if it was that bad, they'd be out of business or blowing them out for half price.
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they stop lathering the fingerboard then, it's a well known fact it's death to harmony lead playing. If I owned one, I'd remove the lacquer first thing, and substitute an oil. Don't care if value drops, I could play it much better then.
@samburkes7552
@samburkes7552 Жыл бұрын
..I surely hope so!! I still have my orig. Fireglo deluxe 360/12..Have played many a Beatles, Byrds, Who, Wilburys song on it during gigs, usually they a 60s Fender SuperReverb Amp..nothing shy of awesome!!..That shimmering, twinky jangle!!
@Scott__C
@Scott__C Жыл бұрын
@@caiusmadison2996 I think no one should buy a guitar because it's supposed to go up in value or anything. If you like and you need to modify it to suit you, do it.
@TedToob
@TedToob 9 ай бұрын
Regardless of the gripes you seem to sense about the difficulty of playing the example guitar - you make it sound gorgeous to my ears.
@ShiningHourPop
@ShiningHourPop Жыл бұрын
I disagree about the tuning issue. I could get my 330-6 out of it’s case after a month or two and it would still be in tune. Nice video and great playing though.
@mathematicalpoetry4066
@mathematicalpoetry4066 Жыл бұрын
I hardly ever have to retune my 350 and it has the same peg board.
@bllewellyn42
@bllewellyn42 Жыл бұрын
My 2016 330 and 2019 360 stay in tune quite well. A lot better than my Les Pauls. Maybe I don’t bend as much either on the Rics, to be fair.
@bluemoonie7650
@bluemoonie7650 Жыл бұрын
You beat me to it. I was about to say if you don’t bend the strings, you won’t have tuning problems with the Rickenbacker.
@portsmouthonscreen
@portsmouthonscreen Жыл бұрын
Yes, the break angle on Ricks is far shallower than on Gibsons, it's why Ricks aren't as notorious for headstock cracks in the way Gibsons (especially SGs) are. If Ricks have tuning stability issues it's far more likely to be the long stretch between the bridge and the tailpiece. I adore my rics (a 6 and a 12,) and play them every day, but I agree with the vid that there are some things they're better for than others, and some styles they suit more than others.
@Scott__C
@Scott__C Жыл бұрын
Seems like Gibson is just bad at it. I always say Gibson should hire Paul Reed Smith or someone from there to improve their QC. Likewise, they should hire someone from Rickenbacker to consult about how to have the guitar stay in tune.
@stevenlochner4619
@stevenlochner4619 Жыл бұрын
I knew someone who had a Rick 2001 bass. It had an awesome sound like no other bass. It had "twangy" overtones that made stand out instead of just filling the bottom end like a Fender..
@347Jimmy
@347Jimmy Жыл бұрын
My dad always described it as a "snarling" quality, very noticeable in some of Chris Squire's tones It happens because Rick basses have a cap removing a lot of bottom end from the bridge pickup You can mod a Jazz bass to do the same thing, which becomes its own take on the sound, but doesn't match the Rick
@samburkes7552
@samburkes7552 Жыл бұрын
..I think You meant the Rick 4001..I have one, bought used in1978, Fireglo, studded pickups..sounds wonderful..punchy as he'll. Decent hinrnd when both pickups are on!
@BSPNode
@BSPNode Жыл бұрын
This is one of those guitars that is just one of a kind. I remember when I was learning guitar, and I saw Peter Buck from R.E.M. using one, and I've wanted one ever since. My biggest gripe with this guitar (and the brand, technically), is that they are so expensive (~$2000).
@duranfriendlystudiosassoci1351
@duranfriendlystudiosassoci1351 Жыл бұрын
I love Peter Buck's use of the Rickenbacker especially on the first Chronic Town EP and Life's Rich Pageant
@moosey62
@moosey62 11 ай бұрын
Me too! I saw REM in about 1984 in a small club. Man, he played the shit out of that Ricky.
@gnlout7403
@gnlout7403 10 ай бұрын
​@@duranfriendlystudiosassoci1351yes! I can listen to chronic town on repeat for hours. That sound had me hooked. Still love it
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 Жыл бұрын
I've played a re-fretted Rick a couple times. The lacquer was removed and the frets were a lot taller/wider. It made for a fantastic experience. Still sounded like a Rickenbacker. I understand why Rickenbacker still builds their guitars with a lacquered fingerboard and low frets. It's how they were built and that's what people want.
@socallars3748
@socallars3748 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, people would freak out if they changed the fretboard. My understanding is that they briefly removed the blend knob (which I personally have no use for) and the reaction was not good. I love my 360 and it's unique sound and look, but it's far from the first guitar I reach for.
@j.jester7821
@j.jester7821 Жыл бұрын
Cool looking guitars for sure. We can all thank Leo Fender (I mean sure Stradivarius knew this) for realizing that the strings needed to go straight as possible to the tuner.
@douglasthompson8927
@douglasthompson8927 Жыл бұрын
it`s never too late to get your GED
@jimclarke567
@jimclarke567 Жыл бұрын
This almost made me yearn for my 330. 92 Mapleglo with a black guard and hardware. Great sound - just like in the vid here. Mostly played clean into a Fender Deville amp (that felt like it was bolted to the floor at the end of a gig). It was my main guitar for 15 years but then slowly I found that other guitars were getting all the airplay. Eventually it was sold to help funding a Martin. Like I said it almost made me yearn for it, then I remembered that for the last years I had it it basically stayed in its case and even when out on the rack my hands drifted past it to other toys. No - it’s better off with someone who will play it like it deserves and I got something fantastic to replace it.
@gamer6550
@gamer6550 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. I don't care what flaws this guitar has I WANT one
@smitlag
@smitlag Жыл бұрын
Man, that is a lovely clean sound. I never have liked their body styles on their guitars although I love their basses. But it does sound pretty damn good
@DeanKruger-b7z
@DeanKruger-b7z 11 ай бұрын
Check out the 480 model that came out in 73....its got the bass style body
@weedywet
@weedywet Жыл бұрын
They're "high gain" in comparison to Rickenbacker's original "toaster" pickups. To most of us who love Rickenbacker, the lower output (7k ish) toasters are THE Rickenbacker sound.
@sixbladeknife44
@sixbladeknife44 Жыл бұрын
The toasters are the Ric sound if you’re into the 60’s Ric tones. If you’re into Buck, Marr and Weller etc., the high gains are the Ric sound. Different eras of iconic Ric players w/ different tones.
@jameshocking1188
@jameshocking1188 Жыл бұрын
Also note that the toaster pickups have 2 versions. The earlier years had 7.5k ohm resistance and the newer versions are around 12.1 to 12.5 respectively , also there was a .oo47 uf capacitor wired in series from the bridge pickup on the pre mid 80s models which cut some midrange,, increasing the Jangle This was an attempt presumably to increase the versatility of the sound for a more modern application. Higher gain less treble which in my humble opinion was a mistake but if you listen to the tones of the earlier vintage Rick's you can definitely tell the difference. I own a 64'360V12 reissue and rewired the electronics and replaced the toaster pickups to vintage specs. Of course I saved all the old parts to hold the original value but it's the tone that makes this guitar so special to me. I'm never planning to sell this beauty but one never knows...
@bluemanfansam
@bluemanfansam 4 ай бұрын
I’ve loved Ricks since I started listening to the Beatles years ago and now seeing modern bands/musicians use them, I’m considering purchasing one myself
@karmicselling4252
@karmicselling4252 Жыл бұрын
I think you are wrong in your assertion that Rickenbacker guitars have fallen out of favour. Just look at the average cost of a decent second hand Rickenbacker guitar on places like Reverb etc. Their resale values would suggest they are still very popular. If you mean they aren't used by many prominent musicians anymore. Well that's an easy one. It takes a certain level of patience and skill to master playing a Rickenbacker guitar, especially the 12 string models. Many modern musicians simply don't have the skill to get the most out of such instruments. Playing the usual LPs, Teles, Strats or clones thereof requires a lot less skill to get a decent sound out of them. Hence their popularity at all levels of the spectrum. Anyways, RICs have been around for many decades with little change. They are works of art. They will appreciate in value over time so the idea that they are expensive is a subjective one. Buy a RIC, look after it properly, and you most likely will sell it for more than you bought it several years down the track. And anyone who doesn't appreciate the RIC sound should listen to this ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKWrfZ1or7N3iNk Pretty much sums up why RICs really have no peer. Cheers from the Land Down Under.
@impalaman9707
@impalaman9707 Жыл бұрын
As to the subject of why Rickenbacker guitars fell out of favor, I couldn't help but notice over the years that hardly any heavy metal guitarists play Ricks. I vaguely remember seeing Glenn Buxton from Alice Cooper playing one once, but that was as close to high amplification as I ever saw one get. Having said that---they do have a very dreamy quality to their tone, and would be appropriate on rock ballads
@J0ttem
@J0ttem Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine has a 12 string 360. We often jam in psychedelic/shoegaze style and it sounds fantastic in that context.
@jonsdavis
@jonsdavis Жыл бұрын
The defining sound of Ride's "Nowhere" album!
@guitarman430
@guitarman430 Жыл бұрын
Ricks are great rhythm guitars. Not comfortable for general lead use but great for rhythm and arpeggio playing. Think of John Lennon strumming his 325 or Roger McGuinn of the Byrds. I had a George Harrison Model 12 string for many years and it was a great investment! That being said , Rickenbacker really needs a new line of modern guitars if they are ever to grow out of their niche. Nothing sounds like a Rick!
@c.j.skamarakas4965
@c.j.skamarakas4965 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I love my Ric 620 for playing rhythm. For lead, my Affinity Tele is a much better choice.
@kennet7837
@kennet7837 Жыл бұрын
John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival used a Rick for many of his lead guitar parts.
@terrybuckwalter2340
@terrybuckwalter2340 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul for the video. The Rickenbacker in it's own element is a gorgeous sound! Your style of playing ,such as those lovely chord changes and your lead work, are so soothing to listen to. Reminds me how in the Bible when King Saul was troubled by an evil spirit he would call for David to play on his harp for relief. Quite a while ago Eric Johnson stole our hearts with "Cliffs of Dover," I think the world needs you to step up to the plate with a song that is peaceful and so full of beauty that it would motivate people to seek to be a loving to each other as possible!
@charleslambiase5670
@charleslambiase5670 3 ай бұрын
I have a 4005/F Converted to a fretless.... .... My case in point to you is say what you want. You made that Guitar SING....I've played with a lot of guys' Who' played tthese particular models Those exact guitars ..you made it sing....❤❤❤❤
@jnicholson460
@jnicholson460 Жыл бұрын
I always use mine, as I also found the amp that achieves the sound I like. It’s a perfect match. I find my 🎸 easy to play btw. And it stays in tune really well, too.
@montag4516
@montag4516 8 ай бұрын
So what amp is it?
@rayray-yw5tx
@rayray-yw5tx 11 ай бұрын
I have two LP standards, two Teles, a Strat and an old 60’s Stratatone (my first guitar). But would like to add a Rickenbacker. The price is the issue.
@Funkybassuk
@Funkybassuk Жыл бұрын
I’ve never wanted a Rickenbacker guitar before hearing this. That tone sounds wonderful! I’d always associated Rickenbackers with jangly guitar tones.
@cafeface
@cafeface Жыл бұрын
Roger McGuinn with 12-string Ric!
@billydelacruz1500
@billydelacruz1500 Жыл бұрын
People tend to forget early Pete Townsend and Paul Weller ROCKED their Rickenbackers! I’ve used with Marshall JMP/ AC-30 and Deluxe Reverb cranked ( also with a vintage Gretsch) and it rocks!!!
@tonydalton459
@tonydalton459 Жыл бұрын
You say jangly guitar tones like it’s a bad thing 😁
@kirkwilliams4942
@kirkwilliams4942 7 ай бұрын
Love this sound OVER anything today.
@dieterhellstrom308
@dieterhellstrom308 11 ай бұрын
The reason is the same as why people don’t play gibson: the price. They don’t make affordable models for young people, you can hardly find them in a local shop music store to test them out, they rarely make updates on their guitars so that’s why people invest their money in Epiphone and Fender. They can start with either of them and stick with one brand because of how nice and affordable their products nowadays
@mjdigs
@mjdigs 5 ай бұрын
I love the guitar and I believe that Kevin Parker from tame impala uses one. Would love to see Rick’s have more of a resurgence and a lower price tag too
@jaycee_nl
@jaycee_nl Жыл бұрын
Sounds very good, clean. But also with the overdrive I like the sound.
@dorepage7076
@dorepage7076 Жыл бұрын
Man, you make that guitar sound so fluid and wonderful.
@kcd2120
@kcd2120 Жыл бұрын
The fretboard also does not get much wider as you towards the bridge, as ‘normal’ guitars so. I recently got a solid body 620 and it is great - the neck is a very comfortable profile to me and at least for what I play on it, the lacquered fretboard is not the issue I thought it would be.
@paultroalic6676
@paultroalic6676 Жыл бұрын
What an excellent presentation. I have a Rickenbacker and I don't use it much but o do love the sound because it is quite different to anything else. Thanks for the explanation and your playing is exquisite.
@techguyMD
@techguyMD Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons why they aren't as popular is because the cost of admission is higher. Not just the cost of the guitar, but there is no alternative. Unlike fender and Gibson and many other brands, there is no Indonesian version. And so if you want the guitar you have to know in advance that you really wanted. You can't just get the cheaper Indonesian version and then upgrade to the US version.
@Bleaksigilkeep
@Bleaksigilkeep Жыл бұрын
Simply the price for me, I do not have the money to spend on a rick, despite absolutely loving the look and especially the sound. I've been tempted to build a knockoff by getting a semi hollow body kit guitar and buying the rickenbacker electronics but I have enough unfinished projects to get around to already
@r0bophonic
@r0bophonic Жыл бұрын
Great explanation on a topic I’ve always wondered about. I believe the skinny neck / nut width is another reason players prefer other brands. Too bad no small builder has made their own take on a modernized Rickenbacker.
@globalnova
@globalnova Жыл бұрын
Fano rb6
@paulcartwright2810
@paulcartwright2810 Жыл бұрын
Probably because you buying a Rickenbacker for the name...if it was a Rickenbacker type guitar but ultimately Not a real USA Rickenbacker...most people wouldn't buy it...myself included..because rightly or wrongly...for better or worse...its a Rickenbacker...they look great...sound great..theyre quirky..and cool...and if I was better paid by my miserable tight fisted employer I'd buy one in a heartbeat...not really to play...ive got my strats...Telecaster ..Gibson les Paul junior...epiphone casino for that lol...no just to look cool next to my Vox. And roland jazz chorus amps..lol...
@pistolgoo
@pistolgoo Жыл бұрын
The duesenberg double cat is comparable to a modernized Rickenbacker in my opinion
@r0bophonic
@r0bophonic Жыл бұрын
@@pistolgoo Thanks!
@r0bophonic
@r0bophonic Жыл бұрын
@@pistolgoo Surprisingly, neither the Duesenberg or the Fano RB6 mentioned by @globalnova appear to come with the toaster style jangly single coils that Rickenbackers are famous for.
@markcaserta1367
@markcaserta1367 27 күн бұрын
One of my first quality guitars was a Rickenbacker 620 Fireglow. Being 17 years old in the late 70's, it was quite a challenge finding Rickenbackers in music store. This did not deter me. I drove up to the factory and walked right in. I was met by the head of factory operations who asked why I was there. I told him I wanted a 620 but could not find one to purchase. He walked away and brought out one of the head luthiers who made the guitars. He asked me what color I wanted and what kind of action I liked. He said he could have it ready for me in a few weeks. I put down the money and waited. I went back to the factory 2 weeks later and both of them met me personally in the entrance lobby. Then the head of guitar manufacturing brought out my new guitar which he had made himself in a nice new Rickenbacker case. It was perfect. That guitar was one of the best I ever owned.
@DarwinRuckleshaus8408
@DarwinRuckleshaus8408 Жыл бұрын
Don’t handle overdrive well: Proceeds to sound fucking mega
@jgorman56
@jgorman56 3 ай бұрын
I love my two Rics. Both Fireglo. A 330 and a 660-12!
@singlesideman
@singlesideman Жыл бұрын
They're also extremely cute. They look like cartoon guitars, with a candy coating. And they sound great. I still don't know why they're not as popular as they used to be, other than the fact that they're expensive, and they were popular more than twenty minutes ago, which is apparently too old for anyone just starting a band now.
@yourboyskeeter
@yourboyskeeter 11 ай бұрын
I’d take a 4003 over any other bass any day, to be honest.
@jackhalcomb7136
@jackhalcomb7136 7 ай бұрын
Part of the reason price yes, but the 65 360 I was the clean single humbucker. What most didn't know is that you can play the guitar thru 2 different amp set ups at the same time. I own 58 by most the major models and I prefer the rick. My best go to guitar. Period.
@mincerstephen9137
@mincerstephen9137 Жыл бұрын
I always liked their shape and style and I always wondered why they couldn't have produced a solid body version with hot humbuckers and a locking tremolo.
@G_money
@G_money Жыл бұрын
In fact they did in the 80's. It was called the Hamburg model. It had a fixed bridge; no tremolo arm. I owned and gigged one back in the 80's. It was very affordable compared to the 360 and even the 330 model, close to half the price. The neck was identical to a 330 however, w/ 24 frets covering 2 full octaves
@chriswallace9113
@chriswallace9113 6 ай бұрын
To each his own, I guess. I love my 360. People complain about the price but it’s actually one of the least expensive USA-made premium guitars. A USA telecaster, probably the most simple guitar ever built, is 2K. Les Paul Customs? Forget about it, unless you started a tech company and sold it. Gretsch Falcon? $4k.
@tobisteffen
@tobisteffen Жыл бұрын
Very good overview. Unfortunately they have this hard playability for lead stuff and don't take overdrive well. But if you want to play really beautiful sounding clean and crunchy rhythm like strumming chords, it's exactly the guitar you need. You won't achieve this on a Strat or Les Paul in the same quality.
@deaddoll1361
@deaddoll1361 Жыл бұрын
Think again: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haSYm5qHiap8rMU
@derekthatch5226
@derekthatch5226 Жыл бұрын
The "blend" knob is for the stereo Rick O Sound connection. Blending between two amps, or with the mono output blending between the pickups in the middle position.
@FSAPOJake
@FSAPOJake Жыл бұрын
It's a shame they fell out of favor, cause I absolutely love the way they play and sound. They're just too expensive compared to the competition.
@michaelferguson2157
@michaelferguson2157 11 ай бұрын
WOW they're really expensive across the Pond! Here in Canada a brand new 360 is $2799CAN... which is a lot for us but that translates to about 1650GBP - half of what it costs to you guys! I've got a 330 and it's KILLER. I use it a lot on my recordings for rhythm parts, nothing really compares.
@FrettedFlipper
@FrettedFlipper Жыл бұрын
I love my ric 381 with toaster pickups for different reasons. Its far from the easiest guitar to play or the most versatile sounding thing, but it just feels and looks so freaking cool! I cant help but pick it up and play, and i love its unique sounds. Fantastic video btw, this one of the best ric demos out there! I would love to see a video on setting up your ric for optimal tone and playability:)
@johnnyjohnny7204
@johnnyjohnny7204 Жыл бұрын
i don't know anything about guitars but that was a great video and helped me understand something.
@brucelittle3958
@brucelittle3958 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the sound you get from this Rick, but like most of the others that have commented I always wanted one but could never afford one! I have played them before and do find playing lead is much more difficult than I would have thought. The sideways frets were supposed to have been made to give better playability and tuning to the guitar, but they seem to be more difficult to play higher up the neck like you mentioned! Nice reverb you are using---what is it?
@karllib
@karllib Жыл бұрын
I bought a chickenbacker for about 350. Naturally it has some issues. Nevertheless, I've got it setup reasonably well and I'd say it captures the real Ricky tones fairly well.
@1thommyberlin
@1thommyberlin 9 ай бұрын
I can create a tele sound on any number of parts guitars. Strats, Les Pauls, Gretsch, Silvertones, etc. too. The one sound I cannot recreate is the Ric 330, 360, etc. and believe me I HAVE tried. Here's the thing: I NEED one. Dammit all to hell, I need one. Sigh* One day....
@Jeffcatbuckeye
@Jeffcatbuckeye 8 ай бұрын
You can find them for under $1,500 if you keep an eye out. Hell I just seen a brand new 620/6 on sale for $1,500. 12 strings cost more. I bought a 1993Plus/12 with the wider neck….it’s incredible and it was easily worth the $3k I paid for it.
@hugoagogo
@hugoagogo Жыл бұрын
For me it's cost. I have a 1977 Ibanez copy of a 4001 Bass and I paid $280 for it back in the 80's. It has serviced me well. As far as guitars, I find both Rickenbacker and Gretsch each have a very unique sound that I love. Fortunately Gretsch has introduced the Streamliners and Electromatics which help people on a budget get a Gretsch sound. Would love to see Rickenbacker consider this.
@Lalairu
@Lalairu Жыл бұрын
I would love to have a 620. I think they didn't consider cheaper or overseas models because of their brand image. Sorry if I made mistakes, English isn't my mother language.
@JamesPetroff
@JamesPetroff Жыл бұрын
This is a great point. I think that tons of people would buy a $700 Rickenbacker to get those legitimate jangly 12 string tones. Just have an Indonesian made brand called "Rick."
@Lalairu
@Lalairu Жыл бұрын
@@JamesPetroff I wonder if they could make more affordable Rickenbackers in the USA. A 620 costs about 2200-2000 euros right now, they could try to release something for 1000-1200 like the Fender Performer series (what the AM Special used to be) ...Or just an overseas version. I would totally save money for a 600-700 for them. G&L makes very good guitars in Indonesia (?), with USA electronics. A satin Rick with less cosmetic appoinments could be about 500-600 I guess.
@Fregulus5
@Fregulus5 Жыл бұрын
Rick has made it very clear that they have no plans to manufacture their guitars overseas, which would greatly reduce the cost. They are definitely a "niche market" product.
@JamesPetroff
@JamesPetroff Жыл бұрын
@Fregulus5 . It is curious they are making that choice. Almost all major manufacturers are doing the exact opposite. Fender has Squire. Gibson has Epiphone. Music Man has Sterling ... Or you have the same brand like PRS and just make a "student edition." Rickenbacker became popular by giving away their guitars to the Beatles. Now they want to be exclusive and out of reach of the young kids? A niche? Purely nostalgic niche for Baby Boomers who are DISAPPEARING????? So goes the Rickenbacker?
@johnnyclifford9423
@johnnyclifford9423 Жыл бұрын
I've got two. Both solid bodies. A 1974 450/12 string and a 1988 620/6 string. I've had both for over 30 years and both are beat up a little but in perfect playing condition. Neither have had neck adjustments and both stay in tune great. The 450 even went a ridiculously long time with no strings due to a club owner throwing my bridge hardware away during a cleaning frenzy. I thought it was safe in the band room. As the house band we were the only band who used that room. I can't remember why it stayed with no strings overnight. I think it may have needed some solder work done on the electronics. After I finally got someone to fit a bridge to it, we strung it up and it has been good to go since. I'm sorry if anyone has had a bad experience with a Rick. Mine are super high quality and just a dream to play. I could never afford one now though. Glad I got them when I did.
@nicennice
@nicennice Жыл бұрын
For a not-very-good guitar, it sounds bloody amazing. I want one.
@AlxndrKplnsky
@AlxndrKplnsky Жыл бұрын
John Lennon as seen on pictures played in legendary group on such guitar so we can recognise this sound very well because it is written in our memory friend! :)
@antonyfaulkner8649
@antonyfaulkner8649 Ай бұрын
They're "High Gain" compared to their original "60's/Vintage" pickups. I've tried both, I prefer the High Gain (modern). But, I wouldn't want them to be any "Higher Gain"... we are overdosed with the glut of High Gain pickups (on every other Guitar brand). The "sound" of the Rickenbacker is sparkle and spank. I use mine for... The Who, The Smiths and U2 covers. I don't do any Beatles. In that sense.... they're spot on. They have a sound when overdriven, that no other guitar can get.... I'm guessing because those other guitars have "higher gain" pickups. My other guitars are 2 USA Strats, 1 USA Tele, 1 USA Les Paul Custom, 1 USA Les Paul Studio. The Ricky provides an authentic tone that's practically impossible to get with my others. But... it only matters if you want/need that Tone. I don't see any reason why Rickenbacker should aim to make their guitars sound like the flock. They're still a family business, they aren't dictated to by shareholders, and they remain a "going concern"... no bail outs, legal issues, files for bankruptcy, hostile take-overs.... etc. They make as many guitars as are needed for the people who want them. For the last 70+ years. Their secret is... they're not greedy. I say.... leave them alone.
@kevinbolick2349
@kevinbolick2349 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard anyone complain about a maple lacquered fretboard being sticky. A Ric shouldn’t be any different.
@theothermarkwilliams
@theothermarkwilliams 2 ай бұрын
I'm a Ric fan for sure, but I do think the lacquered fretboard is different on a Ric (in a negative way), than say, a maple fretboard Tele. The way Rickenbacker applies their lacquer is after the frets have been installed. That makes for a significantly different feel. Their lacquer also just feels thicker for some reason. Even if they would lacquer the fretboard and *then* install the frets, it would be an improvement, and make it much, much easier to refret with different, larger wire if the player so chooses. I managed to snag one of the first 330s that came with an unlacquered fretboard back in 2021, and I absolutely love it. I've owned 6 Rics at different times over the years, but my current 330 feels and plays the best.
@eddievhfan1984
@eddievhfan1984 Жыл бұрын
Re: the "high-gain" moniker for those pickups, it's just the coils are over-wound compared to the original "toaster" pickups from the 1950s/60s, and could be considered analogous to the difference between a Fender classic single coil and a P-90. This could have been motivated by the desire to push amp front-ends a little harder for overdrive, or to just keep up with the trend towards hotter pickups as time went on. The baseline toaster pickups were themselves weaker in output than a Fender pickup, but compensated by having a higher resonant frequency and Q-factor, giving them that class Rick bright/glassy quality. I've always loved the sound, but the narrow string spacing on the most commonly available models made it a problem for my bigger hands. A 600-series (like used by Mike Campbell of Heartbreakers/Tom Petty fame) has a wider neck, and would probs feel more comfy in my hands.
@gazb2069
@gazb2069 Жыл бұрын
Horses for courses, Rick does the Rick thing perfectly.
@glenkepic3208
@glenkepic3208 Жыл бұрын
Nice demo. Yes, saw The Beatles on TV in '64 and knew of The Byrds later. After trying to play guitar since '72 when i was 15 (gigged some) i only played one Ric, a wave crest solid in fire glow after about a year. Bought a book and that was it,,,the Susana Hoffs model looked good,,,,so did she ;) Thanks for the memories.
@ianbartle456
@ianbartle456 2 ай бұрын
Agree with all that. Susannah Hoffs was a total fox and has aged like the very best of wines. It always seemed a little perfect sort of justice that her and RIC managed to come up with what I think is the very best looking RIC of them all - the 350-SH. They genuinely complement each other = timelessly beautiful.
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