Why The Empire Was a MASSIVE Improvement Over the Republic (In Some Ways)

[@skskMethodical]

The lore behind the early days of the empire really shows how much care and effort was put into the writing of the main Star Wars story. Even in a this fantastical galaxy far, far away, the causes and motives that lead to the creation of the Empire are nothing of the sort, they're completely plausible and understandable, and are "grounded in reality" if you will. I can easily see every day people welcoming a dictatorship if it meant an end to seemingly endless war and political gridlock that had cost the lives of millions.

[@natezenith]

To be fair, the republic by the start of the clone wars was practically already the empire, it just wasn’t official yet

[@almightytm2399]

When emergency powers from the senate were givin to chancellor palpatine that was when the empire really started

[@bryanperez4061]

@@almightytm2399 exactly!! He was basically emperor just still called Chancellor

[@labby2]

Bingo...

[@turonwhitfield7917]

Lol basically

[@Kaden10]

I'm amazed nobody considered making a motion to strip Palpatine of those emergency powers.

[@masterblasterT47]

Palpatine was a Sith, the Sith will always be the architects of their own destruction. The destruction of Alderaan showed the Galaxy that they had nothing to lose rising up against the empire as the empire could take everything from them anyway. And you know what happened next.

[@miguelperez9906]

That was more tarkin being an idiot due to his upbringing . The tarkin doctrine is one of the most idiotic military strategy’s a bunch of half measures pushed by supposed fear of planetary genocide. If it had been tailored back to at most city’s being in danger would have been both more sensible and effective.

[@FakeFlemishOfficer]

yeah look at the jedi, look at what happened to those a-holes

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@FakeFlemishOfficer In other words, "perhaps the same can be said of all religions".

[@darklord7479]

Alderaan was supplying, funding, and harboring Terrorists so they had the right to destroy the planet

[@VoiceOfTheEmperor]

People will often choose safety over freedom when the alternative, in their eyes, is chaos and war.

[@johnquach8821]

The "Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither" quote from Ben Franklin applies here.

[@Raul_Menendez]

@@johnquach8821 So we gonna stick to a dead person's philosophy? No wonder the US is a hell hole.

[@laszlokocsi1825]

@@johnquach8821 true

[@guy_with_no_name7317]

@@johnquach8821 that’s not even the full quote lol You missed the part regarding specifically about, “temporary security” I hate how people misrepresent the quote like that

[@sassythesasquatch8036]

People suck

[@YoshiTheWise]

It makes sense that Palpatine, who enjoyed luxuries a great deal, would treat the galaxy in stages. He could afford to be a harsh but fair ruler in the core worlds while being increasingly brutal towards the outer rim. By the time you get to places like Tattooine the empire is an absolute dictatorship and everyone is a potential slave. Palpatine is able to continue his game of two faces while openly being a sith Lord.

[@Will-sq3ip]

You know, sometimes I wonder Anakin turned to the Dark Side and Palpatine’s creation of the Empire was a good thing in the long run for both the Republic and the Jedi Order. After the fall of the Empire, the Jedi Order under Luke Skywalker become more flexible and the New Republic put in more social changes than the previous Republic. For one example, the Mon Calamari and the Quarrens put aside their hate and differences in their rebellion against the Empire and their societies finally united.

[@jamesvader1195]

the republic senate was ineffective only debating and complaining instead of taking action like padme then the Jedi order only doing things the senate commands the republic funded the war effort to people needs food water homes then using soldiers that came out of no where instead of enlisting people and giving them jobs to support themselves the Jedi also believed the sith were extinct they were wrong and arrogant to believe they would hide and believe they would not change making moves in the senate and yoda takes about fear but the Jedi are afraid of the dark side no attachment put that just push them close to the dark unless someone brings them back they misplaced loyalty to the senate betrayed Ahsoka they should have gone independent the moment the republic started being bad they would help out everywhere no senate to command them no fighting the republic wars mace windu said we are peacekeepers not soldiers but they are generals during clone wars during the clone wars yoda had a vision of order 66 Darth sidious and he said the future is not he’s yet but it is the Jedi order is gone the republic is gone the knowledge yoda had and he didn’t clones should not be trusted did not investigate the clones sidious connections to the clone scientists the republic would not put the hutts in line but the empire did

[@california_dude9112]

Of course, he is the Chosen One

[@Bluespark-v9x]

That was kinda the whole point of Anakin.

[@richv1893]

Like any dictator they provide an enemy and guarantee an end to one thing that they easily provide. The fact that the people were already disaffected with the current situation, that helped make the Emperor's job that much easier.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

It's funny, every thing you pointed out about the rise of the Empire and consolidation of Palpatine's power, it would be VERY easy to point out real-life parallels in just the last couple of years in many Western governments.

[@AJM2408]

Exactly and as we know people who prefer safety over freedom get neither. Of course they have to be abused by their government for a while until enough people mount a rebellion and fight back. Its a story as old as time.

[@jhnyjoejoe69]

not even close. it's becme rhe wild wold west again.

[@efreq.6465]

@@jhnyjoejoe69 lol yea say the to the WEF, China is also closing in on us borders with the new Nato, the BRICS

[@JeanLucCaptain]

Emperor Palpatine ended the Senate's wasteful Forever Wars and removed the useless bickering politicians.

[@jotheunissen9274]

It's easy to point out the flaws of the old and make improvements That being said, the New Republic from the Sequels was barely functional

[@thedamntrain]

The New Republic lasted longer than The Empire tho

[@jotheunissen9274]

@@thedamntrain But they were utterly incompetent The First Order built a giant Death Star, raised a star fleet and raised an army by kidnapping children without the New Republic noticing

[@thedamntrain]

@@jotheunissen9274 The First Order is a Disney joke that doesn't make any sense. Its existence contradicts Star Wars lore and nullifies Anakin's redemption

[@jotheunissen9274]

@@thedamntrain It also ruins Luke by turning him into a grumpy lonely hermit without his wife

[@NCRVeteranRanger]

Legends is the only real lore, & I won’t have it any other way.

[@JaimeNyx15]

TBH, it's a little weird looking back in the context of Star Wars history why citizens of the Republic would be fine with an empire being declared. IRL, various cultures are nostalgic for past empires, such as the Roman Empire, Imperial China, and Imperial Russia, but the Galactic Republic has been fighting empires for thousands of years; they see them as "other", and evil. I feel like Palpatine would've had to work pretty hard to sell an empire to a culture like that.

[@leotheliongames]

The obvious answer is “idk space magic probably”

[@soupncsoupy]

Enough Chaos and destabilization leaves people susceptible to falling prey to all sorts of thought corruption. All it takes is a charasmatic liar to tell a lie big enough, keep repeating it, and people will eventually come to believe it.

[@LongHairedSanta]

The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

[@zachcutler-orrey9163]

He did!

[@MrAranton]

In "attack of the Clones" Anakin says something along the lines that the Republic needs a strong leader with the means to force consensus. And I think we can assume he wasn't the only one with that attitude; and to people who think like that, an empire would be more appealing than a republic rife with corruption and other dyfunctions to the point it isn't able to function. In many ways the prequel trilogy explains why people like Lenin, Hitler, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot or Khomeini managed to come into power. The people in their countries were so dissatisfied with the way things were, they felt the later dictators would be the better choice. When we assess people like Lenin, Hitler... and Palpatine, we do so with hindsight. We know Lenin was responsible for massive famines. We know Hitler comitted genocide. We know Palpatine blew up Alderaan; but the people who applauded their ascent to power didn't know that's what they would use it for.

[@lymedog3176]

The reason the republic wasn’t as effective as the empire was that there wasnt a malicious person trying to uproot it. Second the empire ruled with fear and force and third the empire didn’t have the massive opposition, like the separatist, at their doorstep.

[@timwhite5562]

There has always been a direct comparison between the Empire of the Star Wars world and the Roman Empire. While movies like Gladiator may make it seem like everyone wanted to go back to the Republic, reality was very different. To most, the Republic was represented by what the opinion of the Galactic Republic was looked at by the end of the Republic. It should be pointed out that were watching everything through the lense of the Rebels, just kind the written history of ancient Rome came mostly from the elites and Senatorial class.

[@legionarybooks13]

Yeah, I found the scene in Gladiator of Marcus Aurelius wishing to restore the Republic laughable. He implored Maximus to "end the corruption", to which my response was, "Dude, you're the EMPEROR! So you're saying you're the one who's corrupt??" In truth, the Republic was long dead well before the end of Augustus' reign, more than a century prior to Aurelius. And because Augustus ruled for so long, few were even alive who remembered the Republic. And those who were recalled the endless civil wars and strife that followed the death of Julius Caesar all the way to the 'Last War of the Republic' between Mark Antony and Octavian (i.e. Augustus). Heck, even after the overthrow of Nero in 68 A.D. and the subsequent civil wars of the "Year of the Four Emperors", there was never any talk of restoring the Republic. It was universally accepted that Rome would always have an emperor, the only question was who. Fortunately for the Empire, Vespasian emerged victorious in the end.

[@timwhite5562]

@@legionarybooks13 yup. By Aurelius it was closer to 200. That's like saying someone here wants to go back to being 13 colonies, which would be absurd. Well, maybe Rand Paul might want to go back to that, but even him it's probably wants to go back to 1812. "End the corruption." By whom? The Senate? They have about as much power as The Shriners or Knights of Columbus. Plus why WTF would they want that responsibility? Let's go back to Dictator after Dictator, Proscriptions, etc. As for Civil wars, they have enough of their own to deal with for the next century plus.

[@joemeuse9708]

In all honesty, the Jedi order was somewhat a threat to the republic and vice versa. Palpatine is not lying when they said they rebelled, because they did march into the executive’s office during wartime and put him under arrest due to his faith, and violate his freedom of religion

[@bryanperez4061]

The moment Palpatine was given emergency powers he was already emperor just still called Chancellor

[@Chromatomic]

The majority of the faults against the Republic were directly engineered by Sidious and Dooku. You’d really have to compare the pre-Palpatine Republic where there was not constant string pulling to influence events towards the empire. Just because people believed the empire’s propaganda doesn’t mean those were benefits of the empire.

[@mafeweigel]

THANK YOU! This is the only thing that I’ve read that is the truth.

[@marles9196]

I don't think the errors in its system were all enginereed by Palpatine and Dooku but rather amplified. Especially in the Clone Wars series we see a Republic full of greed, corruption and disrespect towards the average citizen, if you want to have an example for all that in a person take Orn Free Taa from Ryloth. Though I do think Palpatine used these circumstances, I have a feeling that greed, corruption and the inefficiency of the system were there long before Sheev even set a foot on Coruscant.

[@NCRVeteranRanger]

Actually, it wasn’t a direct occurence that happened once Dooku & Sidious took power. It was a gradual thing that was orchestrated by generations of Sith for several thousand years, & the Republic & Jedi have been none the wiser all that time. Although even if the Sith never lived to start this cycle of sabotage, the Republic would’ve still likely ended up corrupt & complacent, although it probably wouldn’t have been half as bad.

[@ZeldaSam1]

THANK YOU!!!

[@MLGProTroller]

This is wrong though, what do you think the sith were doing for the thousands years they were hiding? Just hiding to hide? No, the grand plan was in motion since the rule of 2 started, yes Dooku and Sidious were the ones who put the plan in motion, and made it happen, but it was a 1,000 years of work that it was able to succeed like it did. It didn’t just magically for Sidious and Dooku. Do you even watch the shows or movies? Don’t think, because of you did, you would’ve never wrote this comment because you would know your comment is simply not true, like at all.

[@johnquach8821]

Scar Squadron (Sgt. Kreel) was one such person who benefited from the Empire taking over his home planet. The Empire uprooted a very corrupt local government and actually improved the lives of Kreel's people. (This is why Kreel volunteered in the Stormtrooper Corps).

[@shanenolan8252]

I think the people reactioned just like the Roman republic's citizens did when they transitioned from a republic to an empire/ emperor. It was wildly popular.

[@robinedbom7649]

People loved it, because they didn't know that Palpatine was the main reason for most of the problems to begin with. Just praised him for "fixing" the problems he created and beleiving the lies he told about the reasons as well.

[@Phanekim]

Empire wasn't bad from certain point of view.

[@shaunyboy8923]

W comment

[@Historicutuber]

Lol

[@california_dude9112]

Sand isn’t bad from a certain point of view

[@kaidorade1317]

It would never happen…but I’d love an animated or live action series from the perspective Imperial citizen or better yet a soldier! Show us people who actually liked the Empire (not power hungry or tyrannical rule such as Tarkin) and thought it was an actual improvement

[@stevenburton7725]

Your argument is, as far as I can ascertain it, is that a genocidal government is better than living in a system controlled by the same person who built up two different forces in order to consolidate power. Using propaganda, and exploiting the jedi in order to make the Jedi the face of the war. Sidious was the problem with the end of the republic, and the problem with the empire. He built the droid army, the clone army, and the imperial fleet all while making the jedi into the enemy.

[@paul123100]

I've seen this argument made way too many times on the KZbins, it's so stoopid its hard to wrap my head around lol I mean the Republic and the Jedi weren't perfect. But I don't recall them ever exploding entire planets to make a point lol

[@stevenburton7725]

@@paul123100 they believe that power makes right. That twisting a system to oppress people is fine as long as they are legally doing said oppression. That the weak should be subjugated by those with the will to stand above people.

[@ihaveacar]

@@paul123100 That entire planet was dedicated to making weapons for the terrorist Rebels and it's leaders were the head of the Rebel Alliance.

[@paul123100]

@@ihaveacar terrorists?

[@ihaveacar]

@@paul123100 Yeah when you attack the legitimate government with political motivation behind it you are literally a terrorist.

[@chrisrodas6348]

Please make what if Anakin was trained by Qui Gonn 3

[@larrypowers2515]

"You see, boys, everybody thinks they want freedom, but what they really want is order. When they realize that, they're gonna welcome us back with open arms. To the Empire!" - Valin Hess

[@jman518192]

Ok so the clone wars was a set up by palpatine but how does the galaxy come to so hate the Jedi? Should the republic have just let the separatist do whatever they wanted? Was it hidden that the republic petitioned the Jedi to fight in the war?

[@tob564]

Simple: half-truths and lies carefully woven into effective propaganda. That's how it has worked several times in real life as well.

[@esmannr]

Good analyses except one point. You didn't mention the reason the senate stopped working was from Sith interference.

[@AJM2408]

He just created events to manipulate the people there. The people still had to make their own decision on which course of action to take. All governments will have their flaws we just have to be aware of them and willing to live with those flaws.

[@MorePower8679]

I am curious whether people learned the truth after the fall of the Empire. I imagine one of the first things the Rebellion did was expose Palpatine as the true mastermind behind the Clone Wars (and as a Sith Lord, but average people were less likely to care about that)

[@Whatelse73]

The flaw in this is that Palpatine was designing this "fate" of the republic for many years before he became Emperor. So he created the war, the strife, the problems in order to gain his position of power. If Palpatine wasn't around, would it have still come to this? The old republic was around for thousands of years at various times without issue. Before Palpatine the Galactic Republic was doing just fine for a very long time. Yes there were wars, but was the failure to the level that happened after he created his plan to become Emperor?

[@paul123100]

Never understood this argument in Star Wars. The Empire was all about one man wanting complete control over the entire galaxy, a dictatorship. The Emperor used fear, propaganda and deceit to gain control. I mean the Empire enacted martial law, killed anyone who didn't agree with how they did things subjugated entire colonies to keep control. And let's not forget the fact the literally destroyed entire planets filled with millions of living things etc., just to weaken the opposition. How is that better?

[@Lasershadow]

People have analyzed things to death to the point their upside down on the main points of these old stories. Also the saying goes: As kids we want to be the Heroes, as adults we understand the Villains.

[@cassandrakarpinski9416]

People who had it good under the empire: humans in the core systems People who suffered: everyone else

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

So... Same as the Republic? Isn't it a common joke in the Outer Rim to call for the Republic's aid?

[@cassandrakarpinski9416]

@@DarkAdonisVyers not quite. The Republic never tried to wipe out non human species.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@cassandrakarpinski9416 Given that the Empire hired several nonhuman bounty hunters and mercenaries, I'm pretty sure that there are no direct effort to "wipe them out". If so, better tell that to one of the other bounty hunters in the same room as Boba Fett when we first meet him in Empire Strikes Back. Also, Grand Admiral Thrawn. Also, the Grand Inquistor. Also, several other nonhuman Imperial associates.

[@cassandrakarpinski9416]

@@DarkAdonisVyers try telling that to the wookies. They were enslaved and sent to the kessel spice mines. The life expectancy of kessel slaves is measured in weeks. If that isnt a genocide, what is? Or the twi'leks on ryloth? They fought for freedom during the clone wars only to end up being oppressed and enslaved under the empire And when was the last time you saw a non human storm trooper or imperial officer or pilot? The only one i can think of is grand admiral thrawn, who was a chiss, a blue skinned red eyed super tall humanoid race from beyond the outer rim. And the only reason thrawn joined the empire was at the request of the chiss ascendency, to act as a double agent.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@cassandrakarpinski9416 Aren't twi'leks used as slaves in most societies? As for Thrawn, the fact is that the Empire did allow him to serve.

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

It’s funny that - once you know the Empire, it was order It was an improvement - no more did the senate sit around doing nothing, there was no senate Planets became a system of the military machine - every resource dedicated to strengthening the empire. Did it have taints of evil? Undoubtedly. However, it did help with order Which puzzles me why Vader didn’t tackle the subject of slavery

[@HoodedLord]

By that point Vader was little more than a broken man eternally suffering with nothing left in his life aside Palpatine and the empire, he had no motivation to get rid of slavery and every reason to spread his suffering towards others. Nevermind the fact that getting rid of slavery on the scale of a single nation on a single planet is not a quick and easy thing but doing something like that across the length and breadth of a galaxy and with the very bureaucratic, judicial and military apparatuses vader would be using to get rid of slavery fighting or slowing him at every step of the way would be all but insurmountable even for Vader.

[@TgamerBio5529]

If I was a citizen I would definitely agree with the empire since that did made there promise true.

[@Challanger463]

Long Live The Empire!

[@FernandoHernandez-jw4yy]

I's probably not shown in any official story but I imagine that the Empire cracked down on a lot of freedoms that citizens of the republic, especially of the core worlds, were used to. Things like free speech, not persecuting homosexuality, artistic freedom, freedom of assembly and so on. Imagine suddenly just publicly stating your opinion might get you jail time or even get you killed by stormtroopers. Imagine being homosexual or having homosexual friends and suddenly you or them have to go into hiding and fear for their lives. Imagine being an artist and basically being in the same situation or just an art lover and suddenly your favourite artists disappear or go into hiding. Imagine being a political activist and having to cease all activities at once out of fear for your life. Also: Racism against non-humas. They make up the majority of being in the Empire, yet they're second class citizens. Nah, thank you. Living in facism doesn't seem appealing to me at all. Also, I doubt that in dictatorships decisions are really made in a better way. Sure, they're made much faster than in a democracy but the people in power are usually not chosen because of their competence but because of their loyalty to the leader. They also usually report only positive things to their superiors as negative reports would be bad for their own career. That is one of the core reasons why Putin thought Russia could easily deafeat Ukraine when in fact this wasn't true: Nobody in Russias military gave accurate reports. And there is also the problem that dictatorships usually have a much higher rate of corruption because police and such do not investigate government officials. Also, I find it very odd that the Empire is supposed to have cracked down on criminals 100x harder than die republic and used non-humans as scapegoaths, yet the empire hired Boba Fett and other bounty hunters who clearly operated outside the law to hunt Han, Luke and Leia and yet, the Empire had apparently no problem with Jabba the Hut ruling Tattoine.

[@Historicutuber]

Interesting video….always wondered this

[@robertagu5533]

It's obvious whom had it "the best". The only real good things they could probably count on was the government took action when expected. ESPECIALLY if it involves an armed military response. Imagine things like large scale piracy was a risky proposition when just smuggling as we saw repeatedly with Han solo elicited a whole Star Destroyer even when he was BARELY associated with them. Just imagine if he'd been an infamous pirate instead of a smuggler

[@jaredquinney204]

I was really curious about this

[@carolbriscoe9337]

I can understand the general public's approval of Palpatine. When Democracy fails that badly the alternate form of government is seen as a vast improvement

[@dAeveFellows]

esp when its strategically eroded from the inside beforehand by said alternative and the rich who's pockets are being filled.

[@carolbriscoe9337]

@@dAeveFellows exactly!

[@ajlucid2k]

The force is within me. Deep. Deep inside me the force forcefully pushed thru

[@Tattleta1e]

You make a lot of good points! Although the massacre of it and racism against alien species, the empire had a lot of good points. So even if you don't like how they did things, the basis of it was actually not as bad as it's presented as.

[@dimitris2936]

For the average citizen, the racism against aliens wasn’t a huge problem

[@miguelperez9906]

I mean the republic pre palp had akdo committed multiple massacres hell some go so far as being successful genocides. So the empire didn’t change that part in particular by a lot.

[@i_be_eternity]

I’m failing to see how this is better for anyone except the evil side.

[@TheReaper-ep2cq]

I love how it says (In Some Ways) xD

[@philipajfry]

Idk if anyone has ever said this but you have a unique cadence and rhythm in your speech. Is that like your professional youtube voice? Or do you naturally speak that way?

[@silvernexoknight]

Awesome Vid

[@Heisen2420]

There really be a show about the imperial perspective and show why people would fight for the empire.

[@1978Prime]

At first, most people would have welcomed the empire, except for those who know history. But slowly and surely , the freedoms of the average citizen would be affected. Plus over time, an increasingly larger portion of the population would find themselves on the wrong side of empire. Especially when anyone can be accused of being an enemy of the empire over trivial matters or be guilty by association. Many families would be torn apart by the oppressive tactics of the empire. Eventually, the average citizen would start of question their loyalty to the Empire

[@louisnemzer6801]

"Nothing wrong with a little order!" -Freck

[@AdamGentry211]

What is the music playing in the background?

[@maccurtis730]

Palpatine: "Fear war and elect me as Senate I will keep my promises of peace at all cost".

[@joshuabagley6162]

Promises made promises kept

[@liborohanka5010]

I would like to connect this with other video about how was creation of Stormtroopers good move from Palpatine and say, that thanks to massive recruitment for army, that didn't exist before and general dislike for droids thanks to Clone Wars, public could see (actions for) lowering of unemployment, that could be another +for new empire

[@rewto5131]

The Republic did start the clone wars. First by sending Jedi to a negotiation rather than an actual ambassador (Episode 1). Then when the threat of rebellion/fracture in the senate, they mobilize a full army. Following a Jedi sticking their nose in private matters, they invade a neutral world (Episode 2). All throughout the war the Jedi were being feared as the lack of "peace keeping" blurred into power hungry warlords committing war crimes on a galactic scale. So when the "rebellion" leaders had been killed not captured to be given a trial, that showed the true nature of these "peace keepers". To make it worse they then turn against the very chancellor they swore to protect. So following the attempt of seizing power, the Republic had no choice but to execute the traitors (Episode 3). When the Empire began its reign, many things the Jedi had turned a blind eye to, were being addressed. The fact a group of senators who supported the radical Jedi wanted to rebel, the Empire said "this galaxy has had enough war and destruction" and began removing threats to the peace for good. Something the Republic allowed to fester after centuries of promised peace. That is why such a huge chunk followed and agree with the Empire.

[@NASSAfellow]

This video was backed up by episode 3 of Obi Wan Kenobi where they meet the guy they hitch hike with who says it's nice to have some order around

[@erieperry8241]

glory to the Empire!

[@Raul_Menendez]

Democracy is a double edge sword. Its too bad that its all about how charismatic the person is. Examples: Ex-KGB Failed Austrian Painter Orange Man Senile Old Man

[@degamegang8262]

That indeed was palpatines whole plan from the beginning very smart indeed use the clone wars as the main trauma and then keeping the peace and keeping worlds in line

[@TheLastSaint7]

I know your not talking about the Old Republic

[@shadowscout0013]

Nice star wars legion pic!!! Do you play?!

[@angelf2006]

What is the music used in this video?

[@eliteghost1001]

Man I really want to see Anakin and Obi Wan in their clone wars armor in obi wan Kenobi series

[@lopirobinson1991]

That's the allure of dictatorships, sometimes people would rather have safety and security than freedom. It's easy to look the other way when the government works for you but not for others. There are important political messages and, I would say, warnings in Star Wars. A lot of people don't like TPM because it was too political but watching the old movies before the prequels came out I was always interested in the politics; hearing Tarkin talk about The Emperor dissolving the Senate, I was dying to see what that looked like and that's why I love, loooove the prequels. I would've loved to see The Emperor actually declare the Senate obsolete, the speech he would give if any at all. Anyway, this is why I never trust, or want a leader that promises to fix everything, there's only one way to fix everything and democracy can't do it.

[@Batlord_Carcas]

The problematic side to Galactic Empire is that they were the SW Universe equivalent to WWII N*zi Imperialism.

[@jhinckle90]

Here is an easy explanation, one is Democratic the other autocratic. With an autocracy and one that is more of a command style economy with fascist leanings, one person makes the decisions, they incur more risk but in the end there is less division and disagreement. However with a democracy it’s the consent of the masses, there is a implicit social compact for the governed and those that govern. They must act as the will of the people and or as the arbiters of right. This means more red team, more bureaucracy and more handshaking. In the end the latter was successful in creating freedom and choose the former safety and security. With an empire you know who leads, it’s clearly defined thus a singular person can have an impact to change things. With a bureaucracy it’s convincing or coercing and thus built on negotiation. What you get is less agreement but you get less jockeying for power or favor.

[@Stoigniew666]

I would say that Empire is the best way to govern the GALAXY. But I can't get over the enslavement of the Wookies. They were a proud, honorable race of warriors. They did not deserve such a fate.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

The Galactic Empire was necessary. It brought order, security, peace and stability. They had the wealthiest economy and highest employment rates, who's poverty is limited to non humans. The Empire had the largest army the galaxy ever had, ensuring a peace keeping force combating banditry, drug cartels, piracy and corruption, the least amount of mismanagement and a harsh dictatorship that brought a glorious justice system and disciplined culture. Therefore crime and lawlessness, anarchy and immorality was rare. They had conquered thousands of planets after the old republic with its corrupt democracy fell along with its unstable bureaucracy, leading to more efficient government among less men, And they had leaps of industrial innovation, technological development and scientific progress and urban planning a high employment and revamped education system among human mankind. The terrorist rebels and the new republic invites and sponsors crime and rebellion, corruption, lies and terrorism, ever so ironic the new republic had leaps of revolutions and terrorism after they won their insurrection and war crimes. Also it would of kept the Vong at bay

[@DEFC0NZER0]

I'd assume the reasons for Disney hating the antagonist factions a lot more now is because of real-world politics. They hate the CIS because it's a faction fighting for national freedom and independence whilst having a "democratic" government to lean on who is willing to give security at the expense of freedom. And yet they hate the Empire because it's not a democratic government, and yet the empire is more willing to be fair to the galaxy's nations. Plus, it doesn't help with the obvious inspiration of the German Reich and the US military.

[@robertlee8397]

While the Empire may have been wrong in ways human society has proven one thing every time an that is they’re imperfect and must be brought to their knees and one day God will do just that

[@rrcccc]

The Empire was fashioned after world War 2 Germany and Italy. Lucas showed that clearly and spoke about it when the matter of why so little diversity. The Empire was supposed to have little diversity as Palpatine focused everything on Human advantages. This is clearly visible in WW2, white men were treated well, others not so well or were eliminated entirely. The interesting part, Those "White" communities often favored the leaders. "At least under Mussolini the trains were on time!" Was a popular saying in post WW2 Italy. For them... it was better. That is the element used by Lucas in the Empire. For those actively being Genocide or post WW2, it was horrible. It is the same in Lucas's Star Wars. That is why all of Star wars diversity was with the rebellion under Lucas. Woman in charge, people of color and aliens (non-human) all fighting together. They were the ones suffering under the Empire. Disney of course blured the line starting with Rebels, making that harder to see. There will always be be advantages to every form of government, including dictatorship. But what is the overall benefits? The Empire was only good for those the leader (Palpatine) favors.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

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[@davidrgilson]

"they kept the trains running on time"

[@SuperDragonmonk]

This is great and all, but what are the sources of these statements?

[@johntracy72]

Star Wars needs the return of the empire.

[@furonbrainiac6634]

Although I agree with most of this how does the loss of the Martez sister's parents show the consequences of the war? Yes they lost their parents during the war but their parents died due an escape from Cad Bane when he busted Ziro the Hutt and the parents were killed during the crossfire between them and the Jedi. It was due to criminal activity not the war. Although I agree that the worsen condition on Coruscant, especially the lower levels where the Martez lived, was a result of the war.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

The Republic had already failed and a huge part of the problem was the Jedi Order totally failing to maintain their "peacekeeping" role as a neutral force.

[@user-Erimej]

In many ways,The Grand Republic's downfall & The Rise of The Empire is inspired by how The historical Roman Republic is replaced by The Roman Empire

[@DaniG._.German]

There's also the fact that most Jedi and Republic Senators didn't know what the war was about.

[@MichaelEarnedIt-19]

I’d see right through their lies. I might be fooled for a little while. But being spiritualistic myself, I am disgusted that people say oh yeah this evil person had a good idea but executed it wrongly. I was greatly disturbed. Crime is wrong, sin is wrong, lying is wrong. Dihonesty is wrong.

[@BillyBasd]

What do you think of the political situation in the usa now? If you think one side is good, you do not see through their lies.

[@williamcainjr8496]

@@BillyBasd exactly. There are a few..VERY few..on both sides that truly do want the best for everyone.

[@jordanwestergreen6633]

Palpatine: commits at least 3 genocides(Jedi, Mandolorians, Geonosians), enslaves Wookies, razes Kamino and Mandalore People: Yeah he's good

[@mapost2]

Because they considered them enemies of the people. The Empire's citizens were okay with enslavement and genocide when it was their enemies dying and being enslaved. Once the Empire started turning on it's citizens, suddenly they thought it was bad. What does that say about them?

[@jackdubs25]

*Freck liked this.*

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

Agreed. Palpatine used the same tactic as most dictators in our history. Pointing out the flaws of the current regime and creating a “devil” for the public to scorn. The most obvious, given the uniform style of the Empire are the Nazis. Fascism can easily be masked as Patriotism. Pointing the finger at “them” as the cause of the populations woes make the oppression of the targeted scapegoat as acceptable. Any time you see something like that popping up, you need to be concerned. There is nothing new under the Sun, only the names of the players change.

[@richlisola1]

The Imperial Uniforms are not at all like the “Nazi” uniforms, and even those uniforms weren’t Nazi, they were German, the Wehrmacht wasn’t allowed to he political, and the army uniforms and other military uniforms were iterations of prior German military uniforms.

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

@@richlisola1 then German inspired uniforms, does that suit? They were grey with jackboots and jodhpur style pants. No it did not look exactly like the SS black, although the Empire did have colors like that in their uniform. The implication was if a Fascist, Xenophobic regime and the Nazis were the most popular. No military is allowed to be political but they are.

[@shadowbeast2276]

People will believe what they want to believe. And so palpatine gave them what they wanted to believe

[@Clee-os6pv]

From a certain point of view? The Republic was already on the verge of collapsing. So it would become the Empire regardless if the Clone Wars happened or not.

[@javiermauricio8377]

The problem with democracy is that everybody has a voice, so, if you don't like someone's idea you will speak against that idea, but that will make that person speak against your ideas, slowing down progress. In a dictatorship, decisions are taking faster, but a single person with all the power always goes crazy. I wonder if there is a middle ground

[@Raul_Menendez]

Democracy is a double edge sword. You have the brightest of people to speak and at the same time the stupidest of people too. And as histoty shown, if a stupid person have enough charisma in trying times, that person would be elected as their leader. Such as for example: A failed Austrian Painter

[@alyssinclair8598]

Going outside, touching grass and not dreaming up how efficient you think dictatorships are

[@Raul_Menendez]

@@alyssinclair8598 Singapore is pretty efficient.

[@ericokonkwo7771]

Imagine the Empire vs. the First Order, interesting War/Battle. Imagine if Darth Plagieus or Count Dooku survived to Run the Empire alongside Darth Sidious and Vader, would it have been run a different way or would it have been far worse!

[@YoungNosaTv504]

Rule of two 😆 and even if they all were alive still ,sith will have civil war

[@Darksaviour]

I mean The Fel empire proved that a galactic empire isn’t necessarily a bad thing

[@philipbahr7410]

The Empire offered stability for average citizens

[@jmd1743]

I think that it would have been interesting if the Empire straddled the line between the republic & the tyrannical empire.

[@lissadawes4243]

2:27 they were not corrupted. That’s a Sith inspired narrative. As is most of this channel’s commentary on the Jedi.

[@TheTeodorsoldierabvb]

It was better than the Republic. It never would have formed if the Republic wasn't completely rotten - Palpatine wouldn't be able to come to power unless the system was already broken. The Republic was such only in words, just like the US is regarding democracy - you're only safe if you comply, making it no different than the Empire. It included non-democratic planets, permitted slavery if it was faraway, and favored the Core as opposed to the Rims. It fielded an army of slave soldiers, through its long history it fought many wars with the Sith and the Mandalorians, and the CIS were wholly justified to break away, given the unfair treatment that they experienced beforehand. If you want to bring Alderaan, alright - the Republic completely destroyed the home planet of the Ubese, Uba IV, turning it into a wasteland simply because the latter didn't want to join and armed themselves for defense. The difference lies in the security and efficiency, which the Empire was much better at due to its centralized rule and honest approach to authority.

[@maxxdahl6062]

Ah, stupendous wave has become the enemy.

[@dimitris2936]

Oh my gosh he has a different opinion from you 😱😱😱

[@d3m1g0d4]

If the force was real stupendous wave and most of those in the comment section would choose to be sith

[@richarddoig1865]

If he is not with us, he is against us…

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@d3m1g0d4 Not I.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@dimitris2936 Derp. Yeah siding with murderous extremists should be shocking.

[@josephsorrendino9645]

We kinda do this today. As Americans, we really look the other way as long as we're taken care of.

[@txhuntsman]

Better a poor free man than a comfortable slave.

[@cajunrando2556]

Bingo. And lightsaber confiscation precluded annihilation.

[@alextrill1746]

So basically it wasn't a bad place to live at all if you weren't an alien or a criminal. Empire's only real sin is treatment of aliens (which makes the number of humans in the Rebellion kinda strange, must have been criminals).

[@phaikia13]

It got shit done... and anyone who resisted got force choked. Hahaha...

[@blackburnheart]

"Palpatine made space trains be on time"

[@lukedouglas7435]

Can you do R2D2 please he's a unit and my favourite character of all time the droid can hold is own best character in the star wars by far 👌

[@Ghost_Void226]

Honestly if the sith didn't run the empire, it would have lasted longer and probably be better. Because remember a sith doesn't care for his people there just used as an extension of his power

[@carlosgarza400]

It's easier getting behind a shield more than it is for a sword

[@biokido575]

This is hilariously the biggest thing. The empire wasn't all that bad unless you crossed them

[@hinatahyuga9311]

It's biggest improvement was it's military improvement anybody could sign up both men and women

[@superjumpbros64]

Oh

[@EvilJ069]

What I dun get is why, in Rebels and Bad Batch, the command tower on ISDs is so tall, it's not correct