How Darth Sidious Became Such a Deadly & Powerful Lightsaber Duelist

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@Andrews__YT
@Andrews__YT Жыл бұрын
Sidious seems to me to actually enjoy lightsaber combat, too; smiling and cackling in joy, revelling in cutting loose a bit.
@dickvandraevan1675
@dickvandraevan1675 Жыл бұрын
He didn't he simply liked mocking Jedi for using it. He legit just didn't like sabers and preferred to use the force. He thought Jedi weak for having to rely on sabers
@Andrews__YT
@Andrews__YT Жыл бұрын
@@dickvandraevan1675 That's fair. Certainly in character for him to enjoy beating Jedi at their own game, so to speak
@Sandlund93
@Sandlund93 Жыл бұрын
@@Andrews__YT He had been hiding in plain sight for decades, waiting basically his entire life to cut loose. That´s why he was having the time of his life in the duel against Yoda. But he also respected his "little green friend", especially after that Force Push. That´s why he attempted to flee, it was simply the wiser decision. But when he was hindered he had no choice but to go all out. Might as well enjoy a fight to the death, it may very well be the last thing you ever enjoy lol
@HCBailly
@HCBailly Жыл бұрын
I feel like Sidious detests lightsaber dueling so much that he learned how to master it, solely for the purpose of ending duels quickly, so he wouldn't have to spend more time on it.
@Jedilord882
@Jedilord882 4 ай бұрын
People often forget that one’s innate force capability has a profound impact on their lightsaber performance. With Sidious’ obscenely high level of force sensitivity, this translates into an extremely potent form of force enhanced condition, which essentially means Sidious can move quicker, react faster, and hit harder than the vast majority of his opponents. He’s stated to be so quick that untrained eyes can only see the silhouette of his red lightsaber when he’s in combat.
@dereklopez9060
@dereklopez9060 Жыл бұрын
It would've been satisfying to see Palpatine kick Rey's ass with his lightsaber since he mastered all 7 forms. But you know Disney.
@darylsdesigns6679
@darylsdesigns6679 Жыл бұрын
I can see that, though knowing Sidious, I doubt he’d waste time dueling someone with little to no saber training, especially since he favored Force abilities over physical combat
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын
Disney star wars is poorly written generic fanfict
@nodatastored684
@nodatastored684 Жыл бұрын
That's what I expected all they did was X-Men stand around and use powers
@nathanjones8475
@nathanjones8475 Жыл бұрын
With push ups, sit ups and plenty of juice.
@Arohan71
@Arohan71 Жыл бұрын
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 the whole franchise is generic regurgitating of the classic Joseph Campbell heroes journey and even the original Obi Wan hated it. Stop taking this so seriously
@chakotaymunsami7741
@chakotaymunsami7741 Жыл бұрын
Sidious must have done a lot sparring sessions with Darth Plagues
@TheChuckfuc
@TheChuckfuc Жыл бұрын
Form 6 might be the best style. As the saying goes "Jack of all trades, master of none. Better to be good at all, than master of one."
@zincwing4475
@zincwing4475 Жыл бұрын
Not disagreeing here entirely, but you can only do one thing at a time, even in combat. Therefore, some specialization might be useful in most fights. What is the point of knowing a 100 ways to punch? You can still only use one per punch. Granted, some situations might call for different weapons and/or techniques, but there are only so many you need to cover almost every situation.
@MichaelWilliams-ti7pn
@MichaelWilliams-ti7pn Жыл бұрын
I agree with both of you guys
@Angelo-nd4lg
@Angelo-nd4lg Жыл бұрын
Niman is good for wise fighters but it can also be subverted in direct confrontation by specialist forms. It works best when there are many options to be considered and opportunities to be taken.
@TheChuckfuc
@TheChuckfuc Жыл бұрын
@@Angelo-nd4lg I'd agree. So long as a specialist can draw you into a fight of their choosing. Otherwise, the more versatile fighter has the advantage.
@pigboiii
@pigboiii Жыл бұрын
Never knew the second part of that but thats pretty good
@OdiVonDobi22
@OdiVonDobi22 Жыл бұрын
This is a excellent breakdown of what Sidious did with his knowledge of lightsaber combat. I find it a better explanation of his style than to simply say he just was a master of all forms of lightsaber combat. Instead, saying he understood them well enough plus utilizing a defensive form in a random sequence that was hard to discern for 99% of opponents and then being able to switch to a aggressive form that he used his vast Force potential to augment the form, makes more sense and less Mary Suelike...
@pwn0nfire180
@pwn0nfire180 Жыл бұрын
He was a master of juyo, making him unpredictable is how he overcame the jedi masters so quick in his office
@chawwnayala532
@chawwnayala532 Жыл бұрын
It was the scream that dumb founded the Jedi
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 7 ай бұрын
He mastered all seven forms
@crazymulatto8981
@crazymulatto8981 4 ай бұрын
Form 7/Juyo is my absolute favorite out of all lightsaber styles just for the fact that it's an insanely aggressive form of fighting.
@Jedilord882
@Jedilord882 4 ай бұрын
He used an assured strike on the first Jedi Master meaning he also had Mikashi mastery
@bencarignan2711
@bencarignan2711 Жыл бұрын
I wish they didn't bring him back for Ep 9. If they had made Snoke to be Darth Plagueis, and had allowed him to remain the central antagonist, it would have tied things together soooooo much better.
@efwewfwef1549
@efwewfwef1549 Жыл бұрын
ep 7-9 never happened.....
@jonathanhampshire6856
@jonathanhampshire6856 Жыл бұрын
@@efwewfwef1549 from a certain point of view. 😁
@bullravenproductions
@bullravenproductions Жыл бұрын
Plagueis died in episode one… Sidious always came back in a similar way to the movies in Legends.
@efwewfwef1549
@efwewfwef1549 Жыл бұрын
@@bullravenproductions plagueis did NOT die in episode one!!! palpi just told anakin a "story". so who the hell knows what really happened. they could have easily brought him back!! but since disney butchered the sequels in every possible way i pretend the sequels never have happened. and the legends version of palpi surviving was stupid too and no reference for a genuine good written story!!
@bullravenproductions
@bullravenproductions Жыл бұрын
@@efwewfwef1549 This channel has several videos that confirm he was. I believe he specifically quotes from the book Plageuis. Sounds like you’re just a whiner considering you are willing to change the history and deny any portrayal of Palpatine. Calling him Palpi is as dumb as your opinions.
@jeremyk.6456
@jeremyk.6456 7 ай бұрын
I honestly think Sidious uses precision and high levels of skill because he is able to literally toy with multiple opponents with the exception of Yoda. He was very precise in his strikes and movements in order to show his true power over his opponents in the force by being so old and able to be acrobatic, nimble, aggressive, defensive, and lethal at a split seconds notice. The only way an opponent would be able to actually fight him in a lightsaber duel would be to completely put themselves into the force and hope that they had enough will/power in the force that the force wills that persons victory against Sidious.
@DiegoTheRebel
@DiegoTheRebel Жыл бұрын
It's funny how Palpatine thinks dueling is stupid while being skilled at it. It's like how Terry in "The Other Guys" practiced ballet when he was young so he could make fun of people who take ballet.
@pjjohnson7318
@pjjohnson7318 Жыл бұрын
Love all you analytical videos. Especially the ones that focus on Dooku and Sidious. I would push back on two points: 1) That he has not mastered all forms of lightsaber combat and that he’s dangerous due to his speed. Source material says he’s a master of all seven forms and I’d be inclined to believe that. There is a narrative amongst some in the fan base, especially since the force council podcast with the KZbin Star Wars versus series was released, that Sidious is not actually skilled but simply fast. The best rebuttal to this is his duel with Mace Windu. According to the novelization Sidious and Windu reached an impasse once Maxe sank into Vaapad. This implies that once their speed was equal they continue to fight with no real end in sight. This means that in terms of pure skill Sidious and Windu were dead even. While Sidious is faster than most duelist he’s also more skilled than they are.
@thanghoang3198
@thanghoang3198 Жыл бұрын
In the movie, Sidious clearly fell on back foot once the duel went to the large room.
@pjjohnson7318
@pjjohnson7318 Жыл бұрын
@@thanghoang3198It is true that Windu definitely pressured Sidious. I will say, the movies also say that Sidious is a 9 while windu is an 8.
@ZootedUchiha
@ZootedUchiha Жыл бұрын
This is why I love the way he fights.
@Sandlund93
@Sandlund93 Жыл бұрын
Connection to the Force and rigorous training is one thing but what completely changed the game is when he became the senate.
@ggarzagarcia
@ggarzagarcia Жыл бұрын
We need Sith lightsaber wars: Darth Bane vs. Exar Kun vs. Tulak Hord vs. Darth Revan vs. Darth Vader (Anakin) vs. Darth Sidious Who wins? Analysis? What’s our ranking?
@a.d.clarke4990
@a.d.clarke4990 Жыл бұрын
9:20 yes. I always thought that was pretty solid evidence he threw that fight, as he sensed Anakin was on his way. That should have been game over, but it didn’t serve Sidious’s purpose to kill Windu then.
@TheShadow14150
@TheShadow14150 Ай бұрын
“You learned how to dance, sarcastically” -Will Farrell
@Doctor_Bamias
@Doctor_Bamias 2 ай бұрын
I think two important factors are the obvious: The years of intense training under Plaigues but he also had very favourable genetics, considering that he had a very high midichlorian count
@ericolsen5592
@ericolsen5592 Жыл бұрын
When Samuel L. Jackson signed on to doing Star Wars, I believe he said something like "As long as I don't die like some sucker". So of course, Mace Windu got to face down Sidious himself. But it makes it really funny to hear the fight choreographer say "you're a sucker if you think you're gonna get the best of him"
@SidorovichGaming
@SidorovichGaming Жыл бұрын
In the end, Lucas kept his promise to Samuel. His character actually defeated Sidious in direct combat, but got killed because of treachery and betrayal, which is not "suckery". Sidious didn't get his sith name because of his combat power, but because of his talent to deceive.
@k-3402
@k-3402 Жыл бұрын
Vaapad is the bane of a Sith Lord's existence
@Chavez510
@Chavez510 Жыл бұрын
The hello fresh sponsorship got me. The way you said it
@Matt-pn1ce
@Matt-pn1ce Жыл бұрын
Plo Koon vs Sidious would be a very interesting duel , I think that electric judgement would be very difficult for palpatine to deal with . And it is doubtful he knew he had this ability, he was stunned when yoda absorbed his force Lightning so it is clear palpatine underestimated certain jedi . He even was arrogant against Jocasta seemingly because she was the Jedi librarian
@Blazeyblazeyblaze
@Blazeyblazeyblaze Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting but sidious would slaughter plo however I really like plo
@benpezzot8805
@benpezzot8805 Жыл бұрын
Plo is very powerful but he would have still lost to palpatine pretty easily
@Blazeyblazeyblaze
@Blazeyblazeyblaze Жыл бұрын
I think dooku vs plo would be a great fight near equal in my opinion
@danieldavis6288
@danieldavis6288 Жыл бұрын
I don't think electric judgement would make a difference. He might surprise him with it once, but that's all. Plo is strong, but I doubt he is fast enough to keep up. He can hit like a truck, but he is much too cerebral to pace a wiley devil like Sidious one on one.
@hudinisnooop4637
@hudinisnooop4637 Жыл бұрын
@@Blazeyblazeyblaze u guys don't know nothing🤣
@amondodamole1473
@amondodamole1473 Жыл бұрын
Thank ypu for pointing that put that Sidious lost that duel with Windu..some people think he did not but form 7 Vaapad was Windu's spealaty and it's a sith's or dark force user nigjtmare because he can?tap in the darkside and use it against them. Not many master this form
@Gamerafighter76
@Gamerafighter76 Жыл бұрын
Leave it to Sidious to make his opponents feel helpless against him.
@pullo5518
@pullo5518 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, I think your analysis is spot on. I read in an official book that darth maul learned and mastered niman and juyo. So it's safe to assume sidious favoured and mastered style 6 and 7.
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын
Exar kun was the Niman GOAT 🐐 he mastered it highest degree he incorporated techniques from tulak hord and the jedi exile also he was so powerful with The force he could use dark side tendrils while dueling he was too skilled with the blade even mocked a prime luke Skywalker lightsaber techniques
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын
@@damaskholdings9140 I'm not talking about meetra surik I'm talking about about ajunta pall and his crew bro learn the lore.
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын
@@damaskholdings9140 yeah you know more about me 😆 🤣 😂 🤡 traya say the jedi of revan era were like kids playing with toys compared to the true ancient sith lords traya also say nihiluis barely approached some of the ancient sith lords in raw force power, exar kun possessed scrolls 📜 from tulak hord and the dark holocrom which was the most powerful sith holocrom to ever existed exar kun mastered all those ancient techniques that's why the lore say he was essentially uncomfortable in lightsaber combat, he was too versatile gifted and powerful in blade combat, you sound like a casual normie, "exar kun will lose easy" keep talking nonsense 😆 🤣 😂
@andrewsowl8696
@andrewsowl8696 11 ай бұрын
While I agree with you about the style he uses… I’ll tell you just how he was so good… force enhancement. You can be sloppy with the blade if you are just so fast and strong that it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t need to be good enough with a blade… he just has to be fast and strong enough that it doesn’t matter
@mkb4560
@mkb4560 Жыл бұрын
Try to imagine a dark side Yoda fighting Sidous
@shiningarmour6805
@shiningarmour6805 Жыл бұрын
The Rule of Two Sith were ALL powerful at everything. This is because IF the Apprentice before them found them weak at any subject? That's where the Apprentice would strike them to kill them. Naturally, even Plagueis and his master were master duelists, because if they weren't? The Apprentice would have killed them that way a loooong time ago.
@JamesJones-mt9co
@JamesJones-mt9co Жыл бұрын
I'm also going to explain to you the drill that Darth Sidious is used when learning form three called Falling rain. As a Sith Lord of the Bane lineage Darth Sidious would learn the drill falling rain after the years of developing his Force attunement and what this drill is : practice form three while tapping into the dark side and not one drop of rain is allowed to hit them once this form three is mastered this is when a sith Lord will go and learn the other six lightsaber styles. So what makes Darth Sidious an extremely powerful lightsaber duelist is really simply put it it is his Force attunement when the force attunement is high it is much easier to master lightsaber combat
@ojebol4774
@ojebol4774 Жыл бұрын
AYO nobody talking abt that sick outro?
@DjBaapreB
@DjBaapreB Жыл бұрын
So sidious prepared for battle with hello fresh.
@mikkopenttila7604
@mikkopenttila7604 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes what might the ewoks use for nutritious protein with so many soldiers of the empire, dead and alive, stranded on their moon? "Hello Fresh!"
@jw1415
@jw1415 Жыл бұрын
The Jedi are unrelenting...We must hurry and vote to grant emergency governing powers to the Honorable Chancellor Palatine...He will end the war, and bring peace to the galaxy...
@BJETNT
@BJETNT Жыл бұрын
Not that I am an expert but this makes sense!! I thought this myself but it was just a guess!
@OdiVonDobi22
@OdiVonDobi22 Жыл бұрын
I thought for second you were going to say the Ewoks ate the stormtroopers they slaughtered, which in hindsight, I think they actually did...
@lorusvasnormandy3730
@lorusvasnormandy3730 Жыл бұрын
never really was into Star Wars till I found this channel keep up the good work love the channel and have recommended it to a lot of my friends
@darkmatter6280
@darkmatter6280 10 ай бұрын
That ad segway 🤣💯 they should pay you more bro
@curtislangford3181
@curtislangford3181 Жыл бұрын
Good analysis!
@JoniukasVader
@JoniukasVader Жыл бұрын
Force Practice
@captainfach
@captainfach Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is this the quietest video anybody's ever heard in their life? I had to kick it up like 20 notches
@darylsdesigns6679
@darylsdesigns6679 Жыл бұрын
Technically, Sidious also lost a duel with Luke Skywalker in Dark Empire, though Luke was empowered by Leia’s Force Harmony ability, which allowed the young Jedi to keep up with Sidious’ speed and power
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын
That luke Skywalker was also way more powerful than he was in return of the jedi
@DeathScepter
@DeathScepter Жыл бұрын
keep in mind that Luke did defeat a Top Tiered Sith Lord within Darth Vader and There is a good reason why people feared Sith like Darth Vader. Also Luke has the same potential as Anakin and Leia is the same. I am not shitting on Darth Sidious because He is the main reason why Clone Wars reduced the Jedi Order was a success and Success of Clone War in the eyes of Sidious and thus in the fog of War made Order 66 work so well with Clone's Success against the Jedi Order. Even the best of Jedi can tired out and their defenses can drop and easier to kill
@Canbilly2
@Canbilly2 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathScepter I'm going to have to partially disagree. Danger sense is a very basic/fundamental force power that ALL force users learn. It's not hard to keep it up. Having said that. I agree that SOME jedi would have fallen to order 66 easily. The younglings, the very beginner Padawans, and MAYBE some newly minted jedi knights. But all the rest of the jedi, the mid teir knights, the high level knights ready for their master trials, and full fledged masters would have and should have sensed the betrayal instantly and eliminated their immediate threat. Just like Yoda did on Kashyyk. Again, there are levels and the execution of that in the clone wars was lacking. Example: Plo Koon was arguably as good or the same at being a starfighter pilot as Anakin Skywalker. It was well known that he was one of the premier fighter pilots in the galaxy. There's no way in hell that he should have fallen to the clone fighters behind him. His danger sense would have alerted him way before the clones attacked. But no, Lucas had one of the most powerful Jedi Masters of his time go down like a chump. Just doesn't make sense. It doesn't jive mang.
@DeathScepter
@DeathScepter Жыл бұрын
@@Canbilly2 Jedi are still Mortal, extremely talented mortal. I do think Lucas's point that even the best of us can still fail and get hurt or die. Hk-47 and Atton from Legends did explain how to kill jedi
@Canbilly2
@Canbilly2 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathScepter there are certain ways yes. And in the EU there were some ways too. But they were/are very contrived ways. I mean, they literally had to create a race that was immune to the force to present a challenge to the force users in the galaxy. And even then, quite a few jedi masters, like Luke and his family, Corran Horn, and others, were able to hew through them like melted butter. Sure they are mortal. But the most powerful of them could essentially become immortal by becoming one with the force. The could effect things in the living world from being a force ghost or sith spirit. But like I said. I only partially disagree with you. The Lower level force users makes sense. But force users like Palpatine, Yoda, Kenobi, Anakin, Kloon and a myriad of others would have sensed something is wrong like Yoda.
@DarkKnight-tq5mr
@DarkKnight-tq5mr Ай бұрын
So essentially Sidious is a mixed lightsaber duelist like a real world mixed martial artist.
@theperfectbotsteve4916
@theperfectbotsteve4916 Жыл бұрын
1:14 the ewalks clearly ate the guards it has been shown they will cook and eat humans and there was an abundance of dead troopers easley avaliable
@KXTA007
@KXTA007 Ай бұрын
I would love to see Duncan McLeod from Highlander take on great grandpa palps.
@amondodamole1473
@amondodamole1473 Жыл бұрын
Also, with Windu, he found out really quickly that he could not toy with him like the other dualist...if Anakin wasn't there for the assist, Windu would have surely finished him off.
@Eleolius
@Eleolius Жыл бұрын
Nah. Not a chance. Sidious would have just rolled to the right. And instantly have won the duel via casting 1,000 Clonetroopers. (Sidious, like Dooku, could use Force Fly and could have survived the drop just fine.)
@carys3501
@carys3501 Жыл бұрын
I'm not saying Sidious is a better duelist than Windu, but I feel pretty strongly that Sidious threw the fight. He had to put Anakin on the spot to make an irrevocable choice between saving Sidious' life (and therefore Padme in his mind, and the sith) or saving Windu(and therefore the Jedi). I don't think that Anakin walking in on Sidious standing over a decapitated Windu would have had the same effect. It's already pretty clear that Sidious was holding back with his force lightning as he was prodding anakin to choose.
@JL10007406
@JL10007406 Жыл бұрын
Lucas said that Windu won the fight. Sidious was looking at Death Star schematics when the Jedi walked in. I think we can say he was not expecting guests and that he lost the fight.
@alfredtineo3023
@alfredtineo3023 Жыл бұрын
Sidious threw the fight. He could have killed Windu in the beginning of the fight. Read the book. He was buying time so Anakin can arrived
@poppadnice52
@poppadnice52 Жыл бұрын
@@JL10007406 Correction he said he won the duel the lightsaber duel stop saying he won the fight as a whole this is the same George Lucas who said he could have struck down mace windu whenever he wanted in a fight to the death aka (in the force)I swear to God fans use this man as a source not knowing he says a lot of things just to keep from having a debate.
@rocker54_86
@rocker54_86 Жыл бұрын
As a young fan, watching the prequels for the first time, I always felt like Sidious was holding back against Windu. While I agree that Windu is one the BEST duelist amongst the jedi of his time, I believe that Sidious WAS in fact winning against him, only taking the dive when he felt Anakin's presence approaching (obviously to coerce Anakin to the Dark Side).
@justaregularguy115
@justaregularguy115 4 ай бұрын
Nah, he was losing against Mace (Mace was redirecting his dark force power back at him with his own added energy) and in a romantic stroke of fate (and possibly the will of The Force, Anakin shows up and provides an opening for Palp.
@rocker54_86
@rocker54_86 4 ай бұрын
@@justaregularguy115 Fair point
@AEROStrik3
@AEROStrik3 9 ай бұрын
This was the most fanfic video you’ve made
@ejrodriguez2656
@ejrodriguez2656 Жыл бұрын
Right in all points. Sidious wants to lord over his superior skills over the Jedi which is way toys with his opponent using Nyman, once he has had fill he finishes them with Juuyo. Sidious takes Nyman and Juuyo and takes them to they're most extreme levels then utilizes them in a way in which Nyman is the ultimate shield and Juuyo being the ultimate sword.
@pullo5518
@pullo5518 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@SidorovichGaming
@SidorovichGaming Жыл бұрын
It's ambiguous if he was toying with Windu (that time when he had his blade pointed at Windu's chest), because I believe he couldn't strike Mace in the chest because Mace would simply parry that and kill him, not because Palps was toying.
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 7 ай бұрын
@@SidorovichGaminghe wasn’t toying with windu as far as lightsaber skills go, he might’ve been able to win with the force though
@mkb4560
@mkb4560 Жыл бұрын
What would make a good series I think would be about Darth plagues and him training sidous
@jaredquinney204
@jaredquinney204 Жыл бұрын
I was always curious about this
@matthewkalasky2891
@matthewkalasky2891 Жыл бұрын
He did a lot of push-ups and sit ups, and he drank plenty of juice.
@TheMrWolf
@TheMrWolf Жыл бұрын
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@williamlaw2963
@williamlaw2963 Жыл бұрын
Storm Troopers. The Ewoks ate storm troopers. ("An entire legion of my best troops..") They weren't preparing Luke and Han for a spa day.
@piercelindenberg6842
@piercelindenberg6842 6 ай бұрын
What do the Ewoks eat on Endor? Dead Imperials.
@teresworrell7973
@teresworrell7973 Жыл бұрын
Technically he lost the lightsaber duel to Yoda
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 Жыл бұрын
Darth Sidious, like all Sith Lords of the Rule of Two lineage, mastered Fast style, Strong style and Juyo. I would say he mastered Juyo to the same degree that Mace Windu mastered Vaapad. Of the other two styles I would say that Sidious has a clear preference for Fast style, relying more on speed, precision, footwork and acrobatics to overwhelm his opponents as opposed to the more static hack-and-slash moves if Strong style.
@Just_Pele
@Just_Pele Жыл бұрын
What did the Ewoks eat? Storm Trooper, medium rare.
@skarkshark152
@skarkshark152 Жыл бұрын
I fell asleep during this video and when that outro song came on i nearly shit my pants
@theguy4407
@theguy4407 Жыл бұрын
Mace windu is goated
@benpreece333
@benpreece333 Жыл бұрын
Call for Papa Palpatine! Demolishes 4 jedi*
@zincwing4475
@zincwing4475 Жыл бұрын
If you ask me, it is because Sidious is the most dark side character in Star Wars. (Read: most evil). That makes him stronger with the Force and more dangerous in every way. There is no nuance, no compassion, no mercy. More importantly, he actively seeks out ways to hurt others, and life around him. He doesn't just act in his own interest, he wants the suffering and harming of others. He is a sadist, and that might well be the purest evil. An hypothetical example: if some sort of Force genie-in-a-bottle offered him power, a dozen galaxies to rule however he wished, and all the darkside knowledge he wanted, in exchange for freeing them, he would not take it, at least not in good faith. Because he would still share the universe with this strange entity, and he would never grant a single being, especially one so powerful, their freedom.
@venkelos6996
@venkelos6996 Жыл бұрын
I think I can agree with this. On the one hand, certain sources would imply that the Forms are a product of the Jedi, and so Sith who were nor trained by them would lack them, but I feel if you know you are going to battle someone, and you want to win, you need to understand how they will fight you, and how they expect to win. My usual tripping point is practice; how did Palpatine HONE his skills? I've seen videos where content creators discuss Sith using training droids, or even dueling rain, if you will, so I know somewhat how even Banite Sith can get dome practice in, but I seem to recall Plagueis preventing Sidious from even having a lightsaber for a number of years into his training, and the Sith Lord, himself, was somewhat dismissive of the weapon. Once Palpatine was doing important, or at least visible, stuff, it just seems like he would have found it hard to get a chance. Several of his lightsabers were very well hidden, in wats that showed they weren't intended for typical use, and even his main one wasn't always on his person. He obviously had properties, and off-book sites under his alias, so I guess he could have had training facilities elsewhere, but since we never see them, or hear, and since Darth Sidious rarely had to come to blows with foes, it just always amazes me that he's still so talented. He's dismissive of lightsabers, and knows that the Force is often weapon enough, since he us willing ti weaponize it, and while we see him pwn Maul, and Oppress, and he later beats Windu, these are all much later. He didn't train with Plagueis much, nor could he tussle with even middling Jedi, for fear of revealing the Sith, so it seems it would be tricky to find places to test his training against something actually threatening. He could go to Sith sport worlds, or have his own facilities, I know, but these just didn't seem like things he spent much time on, and since so many other "gifted" people, in other media, practice daily, the fact that he didn't sort of makes it seem forced. My opinion, of course.
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 7 ай бұрын
One slight correction there, sidious actually lost the fight with windu
@jamesedillor6053
@jamesedillor6053 Жыл бұрын
Hey #thestupendouswave I just realized something about the clone wars since you brought up mail and his brother that scene took place during order or just before the republic came in to mandalor to kick out the death watch group
@a.d.clarke4990
@a.d.clarke4990 Күн бұрын
That guy was pretty clear. He concurred with Plagues, Sidious is a master of all seven forms. By definition he’s not just a master of forms 6 and 7 then, he just prefers them.
@frankh.5942
@frankh.5942 Жыл бұрын
Not exactly germane to this video, but I want to note - Kenobi, too, bested Savage and Maul single-handedly in TCW…injuring Savage and causing Maul to have to force push Kenobi away so that they could flee. I bring this up to say: if we’re going to quote soloing the two of them as one of Sidious’ “most impressive dueling feats,” then I think it’s only fair that we point out Kenobi did it, too… Too many people sleep on Kenobi. Kenobi and Sidious are the only two lightsaber wielders ever to solo Maul and Savage and walk away unscathed.
@frankh.5942
@frankh.5942 Жыл бұрын
I do appreciate Stupendous including a clip from this duel around 5:20. But as the defender of the master of trolling, I felt compelled to make a greater point out of it.
@b.msabol8551
@b.msabol8551 Жыл бұрын
I would personally call shenanigans when saying Palpatine was a deadly duelist. Sure he's competent and capable of teaching any form, but his strength was in the force. And someone of that caliber could be considered to be under constant force augmentation such as speed, strength, and stamina. He was fully capable of becoming a serious lightsaber duelist but blade mastery was deemed beneath him. Maul almost outmatched him on Mandalor in swordsmanship until Palpatine ultimately fell back into force use
@b.msabol8551
@b.msabol8551 Жыл бұрын
@@damaskholdings9140 I don't hate Palpatine. I just think he's overrated and praised as the best. And I'm not referring to standard force enhancement like bursts of speed or jumping. He's basically the avatar of the darkside, and his enhancement would be constant whether he himself knew it or not. Think of battle meditation without being drained after or preparing for it, but it's always in effect. That's what I was implying. Blade to blade though, he's too arrogant & and full of himself. Vader, Maul, Grievous, and especially Yoda all could have wiped the floor with him if sorcerery didn't come into play
@datboielijah1234
@datboielijah1234 Жыл бұрын
@@b.msabol8551 lol
@b.msabol8551
@b.msabol8551 Жыл бұрын
@@datboielijah1234 glad you're out of Russia. The WNBA got a win 💪👑🙌
@BULLETPHIL99
@BULLETPHIL99 Жыл бұрын
Sidious is powerful but he’s not some omnipotent god. That’s why he struggled against Windu and Yoda, who are champions of the Jedi order. Even though Sidious has more raw power than Windu, it was a bad match up because of Windus Vaapad, which excels against dark side users.
@treiwilson9445
@treiwilson9445 Жыл бұрын
I think Shi cho, makashi, djem so/ shien and Niman/ jarkai would be forms of choice.
@DynV
@DynV Жыл бұрын
It was mentioned that Sidious used lightsabers to insult rather than kill; I assume wearing down someone while showing one have the upper hand does just that.
@tomcross3000
@tomcross3000 Жыл бұрын
i actually disagree with the "niman" claim. i think palpatine mastered most aggressive forms. ataru, djem so, juyo, makashi chiefly and probably niman too. and he fought every fight like he was fighting for his life, except ofcourse when he was throwing one. what else did he do? he turned his body into a weapon, practiced all martial acrobatics until he was unnaturally agile. so he was extra. on the twirling sabers, it says alot about his playful demeanor and how he loves his toys, it also is a useful tactic to keep his blades moving around his core target zone to react to any incoming swing. there's a cunning practicality to it.
@Arohan71
@Arohan71 Жыл бұрын
Niman would actually be perfectly fitting with Palpatine loving to insult the Jedi in subtle ways. Niman was the diplomats form. For the Jedi it let them get the combat skill they needed but focus on the force. Of course Sidious, a politician, would twist that philosophy.
@matthewjones9237
@matthewjones9237 Жыл бұрын
Did you just hit us w/ an AD? You truly have fallen to the dark side. 😕
@treiwilson9445
@treiwilson9445 Жыл бұрын
If I couldn't do that. I would go with Niman/Jar'kai and shien
@kalikiller1771
@kalikiller1771 Жыл бұрын
Here I was expecting him to say the ewoks ate stormtroopers
@eaphantom9214
@eaphantom9214 Жыл бұрын
11:56 - Evil! 😈 Maybe cos of this figting style alone is why he can be deemed - Unpredictable and a very dangerous man, A true dark Lord of the Sith! 😁⚔ - If you like
@Jive.
@Jive. Жыл бұрын
Ah yes hello fresh, totally not dead stormtroopers 🍗
@taranbaze1448
@taranbaze1448 Жыл бұрын
Around 7:00 you say form 7 isn't comprised of memorized sequences but it is, or there would be no light side equivalent.
@joeymassey9770
@joeymassey9770 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t beat Yoda in lightsaber combat. In the novel it says Yoda won the lightsaber duel he just lost when it came down to using the force. So no he lost against Windu and Yoda
@Jedilord882
@Jedilord882 4 ай бұрын
It really shouldn’t surprise anyone this is the case. Windu has a form intricately designed to counter dark side practitioners, and Yoda has nine centuries of experience.
@Zippism
@Zippism Ай бұрын
Palps got the high ground, abuses Yoda with it. When Yoda finally got to him(by makijg the same move Anakin did jumping UP to the pod Sheev is on), Palps blasted him off the pod and onto the senate floor.
@jakeh1199
@jakeh1199 Жыл бұрын
I personally think Sidious has actually mastered all 7 Forms of Lightsaber Combat, especially given Form 6 Niman does require knowledge/skill of Forms 1-5, so I do believe Sidious could use any Form. I do however agree with you Stupendous that Sidious does prefer Form 7 Juyo and Form 6 Niman as his main Lightsaber Forms. Since Form 6 Niman was the Jack of all Trades and Master of None, in combination with Form 7 Juyo randomised attacks and aggression that favours Dark Side users, Darth Sidious was effectively a monster duelist. Only Yoda and Mace Windu were his equals during Revenge Of The Sith.
@MrRich2u
@MrRich2u 9 ай бұрын
Let's face it, The big Sid was a Mary Jane. He was a 60- to 70-year-old human who could go head-to-head with a 800-year-old Yoda. A species known for their immense force abilities and uber high Miti chlorine count. Yoda had the highest ever recorded by the Jedi...The Plot armor was powerful in The SId...
@marcusisgod2592
@marcusisgod2592 Жыл бұрын
Darth krayt or darth bane please. Cin drallig or luke skylwalker, you could do those to.
@I-S-C
@I-S-C Жыл бұрын
actually yoda beat sidious in a lightsaber duel as u can see sidious lost his saber midway
@treiwilson9445
@treiwilson9445 Жыл бұрын
I would add makashi, soresu and shien to round out form 6 and 7.
@apollyonkatastrefia1586
@apollyonkatastrefia1586 Жыл бұрын
The ewoks obviously ate the captured stormtroopers.
@hibs5516
@hibs5516 Жыл бұрын
The Ewoks ate the storm troopers after the destruction of the second death star. Han, Luke and Leia were there when t he at was happening.
@TheStellarmanCo.
@TheStellarmanCo. Жыл бұрын
Sidious lost in his duel with Sidious, Yoda actually disarmed him, they don't show that scene, then it was a Force battle which was a stalemate
@abenice
@abenice Жыл бұрын
Facts I was wondering if anyone was gonna mention that
@dracoesk696
@dracoesk696 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't he use a sabre against Vader when he got yeeted in the death star?
@asleep-crate8644
@asleep-crate8644 Жыл бұрын
Wooooooo hell ya
@marcthompson2027
@marcthompson2027 Жыл бұрын
I kind of disagree with this. If you go back to Darth Bane and when he was learning how to duel, Bane was taught not just master 1 style but many so he could switch sequences at any given point in the duel. Yes, he was made to master one style that best suited him, but was mad to learn and master the rest. He passed that knowledge down to his apprentice and so on and so forth. So I do believe Darth Sidious was a master of all 7 forms, Niman was the one that best suited him first.
@kermitthefrog9719
@kermitthefrog9719 Жыл бұрын
Do one of yoda
@apank21
@apank21 Жыл бұрын
more analysis and evidence/support for sidious' chest hold on windu ? windu seems to b in control is another explanation ? or some die hards may think ? ~9:30
@zerosystem2393
@zerosystem2393 Жыл бұрын
Before watching the video I was like oh cool we get to hear about the hellish training sidiuous went through. After watching the video... it's Sidious is a prodigy. So essentially he's just good...😑. I guess that is an explanation,but it feels kind of hollow to me.
@Boethius4748
@Boethius4748 Жыл бұрын
Hm. I always just assumed the Ewoks ate what was left of the Stormtroopers. Hello Not So Fresh.
@dach829
@dach829 24 күн бұрын
So drunken master style
@Kezzy-nm1fc
@Kezzy-nm1fc 20 күн бұрын
kung fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS Жыл бұрын
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
@peteschweddy4263
@peteschweddy4263 Жыл бұрын
Anybody notice how death sidious never was referred to as “shiev” palpatine until Disney took over? Always Darth sidious, chancellor palpatine, senator palpatine, emperor palpatine, or just palpatine?
@Kezzy-nm1fc
@Kezzy-nm1fc 20 күн бұрын
that's just his first name
@knowone4080
@knowone4080 Жыл бұрын
Sidious lost to Windu on purpose to lure him in to turn against Windu.
@trevleisner
@trevleisner Жыл бұрын
Yo did Stupendous say "Jedis" at 6:55?
@chadarcher13
@chadarcher13 Жыл бұрын
Sidious didn't lose to Mace... he took a dive in order to turn Anakin... this has been confirmed
@Strafuzz
@Strafuzz Жыл бұрын
Not according to George Lucas
@wolffang471
@wolffang471 Жыл бұрын
I would want to focus on light saber combat.
@srh2494
@srh2494 4 ай бұрын
The Ewoks ate the stormtroopers. I thought this was common knowledge.
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