Why Palpatine Was TERRIFIED of Yoda After He Dueled Dooku - Star Wars Explained

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@perception913
@perception913 Жыл бұрын
"If so powerful you are.... Why leave?" PURE GANGSTA
@eriknewton4656
@eriknewton4656 Жыл бұрын
yet who emerged victorious? sidious.
@perception913
@perception913 Жыл бұрын
@@eriknewton4656 last I checked he was thrown down a power reactor and Yoda got to be at one with the force and just dose off to sleep when he was ready. 😁
@eriknewton4656
@eriknewton4656 Жыл бұрын
@@perception913 i mean at the end of the revenge of the sith and end of the clone wars. i get what you are saying but i should have specified at the end of revenge of the sith
@BrianReno-qy9wk
@BrianReno-qy9wk Жыл бұрын
​@@eriknewton4656sidous ran away. If he was so powerful why did he try to run in the beginning and why didn't he go down to look foryoda himself
@eriknewton4656
@eriknewton4656 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianReno-qy9wk because he was trying to maneuver himself into a better position in a narrow hallway so yoda's acrobatics and lightsaber style would be less effective
@lorenzog7811
@lorenzog7811 Жыл бұрын
I think he was kind of scared of Dooku too, having gone toe to toe with Yoda and survived.
@dreadrath
@dreadrath Жыл бұрын
He was certainly wary of Dooku, its probably part of why he tried to teach Dooku only the bare minimum about the dark side since it wouldn't do for his place holder apprentice to get too powerful and become a potential problem down the road. Plus Sidious respected Dooku's lightsaber skills in so far as he could respect any dualist given his general disdain for lightsaber dueling as a whole; which really is quite the compliment given the Sidious was also bloody good with lightsabers despite his general disdain for them.
@TsaicoGaming
@TsaicoGaming Жыл бұрын
​@persuasivebarrier2419 bruh, that's common knowledge at this point. Look at Dooku's eyes, they were never yellow (except in clone wars for like one episode). The reason he left also wasn't to do with the Jedi not wanting to hunt down the sith. He was sick of the jedi being the Republic's guard dogs and felt like the jedi lost their way (he was right) and in legends, qui gons death was what caused him to finally snap and leave, in disney Canon he ended up doing something bad (not spoiling) then leaving before qui gon died Dooku was never truly committed to the sith, he was committed to forcing the jedi to realize the mistakes of their recent way of life by becoming the threat that the jedi wanted to shrug off
@esotericsage6914
@esotericsage6914 Жыл бұрын
@persuasivebarrier2419 You'd think so, but it happens in real life. Greenspan was a huge critic of the Fed before he became the head of it.
@koolgameninja2960
@koolgameninja2960 Жыл бұрын
He definitely did that's why he told Anakin to kill him in the movies and why you see his face looking like wtf why would you tell him to do that???
@esotericsage6914
@esotericsage6914 Жыл бұрын
@persuasivebarrier2419 Correct. Doesn't that undermine your point about Dooku? Maybe I'm missing something.
@TheChampFighter
@TheChampFighter Жыл бұрын
Stupendous, Yoda proved himself to be the superior lightsaber combatant. Sidious realized this terrifying(for him) reality and fell back on his force powers. And even when summoning the full strength of his force powers, he only managed something of a stalemate. You can't even call it a proper, decisive stalemate. Yoda lost his lightsaber during the fight and after getting up from falling from such a height, though he was in pain, he realized it was pointless to continue engaging Sidious in combat because the clones were making their way into the chamber and because he felt Sidious succeeded in his overall plan to defeat the Jedi as a whole. Yoda was wise to retreat. 👌💯
@glentor3
@glentor3 Жыл бұрын
To win, Palps just had to survive until his guards arrived in force. He accomplished that.
@SRT_DRE
@SRT_DRE Жыл бұрын
@@glentor3if win you mean survive and live to fight another day then yeah…
@realQuestion
@realQuestion 9 ай бұрын
opposite of a stalemate. Yoda *lost.* He describes it as a failure himself!
@frankdees507
@frankdees507 7 ай бұрын
@@realQuestionAbsolutely. He told Kenobi, destroy the Sith we must, and Obiwan made way more progress than Yoda did. Yoda can’t say he destroyed the Sith, but Sidious can honestly say he destroyed the jedi.
@wolfegaming1953
@wolfegaming1953 5 ай бұрын
All you have to look at in regards to who had the most powerful raw force power is the ease palp was throwing the whole room at yoda and it took him a few seconds to throw one at palp
@BengtRosini13
@BengtRosini13 Жыл бұрын
Sidious didn't put his lightsaber away, Yoda disarmed him forcing Sidious to use his dark side force abilities, which brought them to a stalemate.
@Rj-pw7zs
@Rj-pw7zs Жыл бұрын
I believe he put it away in the book but was disarmed in the movie.
@mp88474
@mp88474 9 ай бұрын
happened off screen in the film but iirc the novel says he was disarmed
@cyrilcooper4173
@cyrilcooper4173 Жыл бұрын
I never understood why people think Sidious beat Yoda when he was the one trying to destroy all the Jedi, this was his plan and he was face to face with the grandmaster and failed. Sidious once he realized he was outmatched and disarmed ran from Yoda throwing things at him to get away probably thinking he’d have more success with Vader helping him than alone. Truthfully Sidious failed at his own plan.
@rq4740
@rq4740 Жыл бұрын
I think the point is that yoda was in a must win situation. A draw (which is what happened) is a win for palpatine because he now massively controls the status quo. I.e. this is yoda’s ONE CHANCE to kill palpatine before his guards arrive, and if he fails to kill palpatine in time palpatine will continue as Galactic Emperor and send his goons to hunt yoda down for the rest of time
@silver831cali3
@silver831cali3 Жыл бұрын
Yoda is the one who failed. A fight to the death includes everything. Doesn't matter if he ran. Even Yoda said that Sidious was too strong for him alone. The only chance was if Vader fell while Yoda was fighting Sidious. Sidious would become aware and be distracted providing a chance for Yoda. But Vader fell too late.
@GlockThar
@GlockThar Жыл бұрын
Yoda disarmed sidious indeed but when he started to create distance a use his powers in the dark side he gained the upper hand. Yoda said it himself in the novelization that he wasnt able to beat him and even call sidious "a shadow" "avatar of the dark side"
@GH-ub7qz
@GH-ub7qz Жыл бұрын
yoda lost...jedi all died fanboy. and yoda was dumber than the most mentally addled to not detect multiple false flag operations....
@Xeronoia
@Xeronoia 11 ай бұрын
People are forgetting that Yoda ended up contributing to Palpatines ultimate defeat via Vader/Luke later on. He didn't kill him right then and there, but retreating let him help take over looking after Luke after Obi-Wan's death and eventually "won the war" so to speak. That very possibility is exactly why Palpatine had "kill all jedi" as such a high priority and why even after he took over he spent so much time dedicated towards hunting down any and all survivors.
@ryan4327
@ryan4327 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that he beat Yoda. I think Yoda at least matched him. Sidious retreated and gave himself enough room to escape, that's really all he managed to do.
@CorbCorbin
@CorbCorbin Жыл бұрын
Lucas says Yoda has the better of him, which is why Sidious decided to stop dueling, while using the senate seats. It’s all stupid, because Yoda throws his lightning back, like it was simple for him, and Sidious has fear on his face, after the push. Yoda not having any force ability to use, aside from force pushing, when in combat, is why Jedi like him, who would be equal to Sidious, usually lose. I always mention how stupid it was that Yoda didn’t take a team to just use to force on Grievous, after we’re told and shown how many Jedi he’s killing. They act like he’s such a problem, and Dooku was the only other main leader, in the prequels. George hadn’t written about inquisitors, and he had never read the old books, so Yoda really drops the ball. Then Mace waltzes in to meet the first Sith a Jedi has seen in how many years? One who was powerful enough to block them sensing him, and even supporting his positions, his place, until it was too late. Why didn’t he bring a hundred Jedi? Arrogance, and to justify George’s writing shortcomings, someone else later writes about how Windu gets off on killing evil beings. So, he just couldn’t help himself, especially with the other guy, someone wrote as maybe near Mace, Dooku and Yoda level, with a Saber, and also has Mace’s fetish for slaying evil. Palpy just jumps right at him and kills him immediately, as they all watch. We see Yoda going so fast it’s hard to keep up, but Sidious looks like bullet time in comparison, yet he still takes them out without us even really seeing the strikes. Poorly choreographed, especially with what they didn’t use, being filmed. Someone wrote why that scene looked like that later too. Palpatine did his “your scared stuff” force attack, of course. So, if you don’t think Yoda was at least equaling him; I’d wager you buy the idea Sidious was letting Mace win? Even though stupid Mace could’ve ended it right there, the ultimate evil, that he often has trouble not slaying half as evil as being, but not at that point, so he’s bringing him in. Who cares that he just killed four council members? 😆 *I’m sorry, i totally misread your comment. 😩 I read it as you think he beat Yoda… What do you think about Mace’s duel?
@scottb3034
@scottb3034 Жыл бұрын
@@CorbCorbin Mace and Yoda both dominated him.
@arthurhenderson3853
@arthurhenderson3853 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said
@robertrosales2285
@robertrosales2285 Жыл бұрын
​@@CorbCorbinpalpy lost the lightsaber battle, but he won in terms of force power/stamina. Using the force requires a lot of energy. Which is why the sith use rage as fuel. Rage increases their adrenaline, which gives them the will necessary to continually use the force. Yoda was alive for a long time, but followed the Jedi way of not allowing emotions to influence him. So while he was as strong as palpatine force wise, he would not give into his emotions to gain power, unlike palpatine. Thus he could not sustain the fight for a prolonged period. Also, palpatine did not move nearly as much as Yoda did during the lightsaber duel. And those movements all require usage of the force.
@stevenkempton7469
@stevenkempton7469 Жыл бұрын
That could be classified as beating/winning the fight.
@overlydorkishdude
@overlydorkishdude 7 ай бұрын
I love how yoda is this little green jumping dwarf and everyone is like “I’m trying to kill you! Stay still you little shit!”
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
Palpatine was probably terrified of dueling the best of the best of the Jedi. And he was right to be so afraid.
@romeoceron7445
@romeoceron7445 Жыл бұрын
You also have to understand too that after their duel sidious also gained a huge fear of ever facing dooku in light saber combat, he feared him and his blade work and said in novels and comics, both legends and cannon that dooku was superior to him with the blade, but that sidious himself was leagues ahead in the force and that is where he will keep dooku at bay. Plaguies also said dooku even though he is older would beat sidious but not himself as plaguies despite completely hating the lightsaber, was a prodigy, a ultra master with it. He only knew how to use it because his own master believed firmly that light saber combat needed to be perfected too since the Jedi rely on the saber. Plaguies defeated the guy who his own master trained to counter everything plaguies knew, to counter all his combat and force abilities down to the T, but yet for plaguies to easily beat his own master and then playfully wipe the floor with the second guy his master trained to kill plaguies shows his skill. Plaguies hated the saber and believed the force is where the south’s true power lies, which sidious got that mentality too. If plaguies could, he’d completely make the use of the blade among the sith illegal more or less but he knew his adversaries relied on them so he taught sidious all he knew. Sidious dared not to even raise his sword to his master, he said it himself in legends and cannon novels. He knew his master would squash him with the sword and at that time the force too, so he killed him in his sleep. If plaguies said dooku would beat sidious and sidious knew it as well, it shows how good dooku was. In the novel the fight was explained more thoroughly but dooku stalemated yoda, neither gaining the upper hand, but dooku had to leave as he felt reinforcements arriving to help, so he had no choice but to leave. And if that doesn’t tell you he’s good, George Lucas has him above sidious on his list of best duelist in Star Wars History, with Vader standing number 1. After their duel, sidious gained respect and fear for both of them
@laurierpayment2582
@laurierpayment2582 Жыл бұрын
Very logical. Yoda > Dooku > Sidious in terms of the sword alone
@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160
@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no. Sidious is dropping Dooku.
@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160
@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 Жыл бұрын
@ludvignordin6349 your coping so hard.
@romeoceron7445
@romeoceron7445 11 ай бұрын
@@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 George Lucas himself has dooku above yoda, sidious and windu on his list of best duelist in Star war and Disney kept his list as it was easier then making a new one and it made most sense. Sidious in the novel stated himself that dooku was greater than anyone with the sword and that dooku was better than him but sidious was better with the force and dooku knew that. Dooku would walk sidious in light saber combat as in the ATC novel which is legends and cannon since both Lucas and Disney say it’s the best interpretation states that yoda said dooku would have won if their fight continued and that he only ran after both him and yoda sensed padme and clones coming in. If yoda acknowledged dooku would win and yoda even said after their duel that no Jedi should face dooku in solo combat if they can, if not try your best not to die as dooku would “best any Jedi in the order in solo combat”. Yoda beat sidious in the dueling, and dooku was besting yoda and at one point in the novel, playing with him. And yoda uses the force heavily during combat, dooku doesn’t because he’s prideful of his prowess with the blade. If he used the force, no one could beat him id say. If dooku was beating yoda who bested sidious with the blade, then dooku would best sidious hands down, and both sidious and plaguies said dooku would best sidious. Plaguies was better than sidious with the blade, he was astoundingly good despite hating the damn things 😂 plaguies’ master tenbrous prioritizes dueling, why do you think sidious killed his master in his sleep. Sidious knew to touch blades would be suicide, during light saber training he feared his master would kill him for the fun of it. He also feared to touch his master with the force so he killed him in his sleep. If plaguies who himself killed Jedi masters with ease at a young age and then hid their remains from the Jedi said dooku would best sidious, then dooku would. He said a big reason dooku would is because dooku was not held tightly by the code, which is where qui gon learned his rule breaking style from 😂 dooku was not afraid to kill someone. If he perceived you as an enemy, he will go for the kill instead of disarming like other Jedi would
@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160
@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 11 ай бұрын
@romeoceron7445 so much wrong 🤣. Yoda would have stomped Dooku in AOTC. He dropped it to escape because he was outmatched.
@darth_batman8190
@darth_batman8190 Жыл бұрын
Great video and I have always thought what you have said here. There is a point in RoTS where Yoda and Palpatine are fighting and their lightsabers lock and you can see the shock on Palpatine's face. Like he is surprised that Yoda has matched him.
@TaGF_Tomcat
@TaGF_Tomcat Жыл бұрын
I don't comment on this channel often but I've been watching these videos for a long time and they're always worth clicking on.
@auroraflash
@auroraflash Жыл бұрын
Also, Vader was engaging in lightsaber combat too much and rarely used the force in combat. With Sidious’ guidance, Vader became more than just a powerful blade master, he used his strength in the force to overpower his enemies while wielding a blade.
@auroraflash
@auroraflash 11 ай бұрын
@jaquariusrodgers7299 I think auto play moved to the next video while I was typing. 😂
@Scallywaag
@Scallywaag Жыл бұрын
I thought the Sith being beyond lightsabers was about how the Sith were primarily attacking the Jedi politically, setting up a war and Order 66 instead of direct combat like the Sith of old.
@ltzGodSpeed
@ltzGodSpeed Жыл бұрын
Cuz yoda is the GOAT
@lorenzog7811
@lorenzog7811 Жыл бұрын
Rey and Sabine are WAY more powerful...not to mention Asohka.
@witnessazir5693
@witnessazir5693 Жыл бұрын
@@lorenzog7811yikes😂
@bluntslt8023
@bluntslt8023 Жыл бұрын
THE GOATTT
@NagromMit1
@NagromMit1 Жыл бұрын
I assume you are either joking or off your med's 😁
@themydnighthour
@themydnighthour Жыл бұрын
He kinda does look like a goat. Haha
@dotuffel6105
@dotuffel6105 Жыл бұрын
Love the recent videos about yoda keep it up!!
@TheStupendousWave
@TheStupendousWave Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@aaronconway5404
@aaronconway5404 10 ай бұрын
Palpatine can think that using a lightsabre is not worth his time if he wants but when you have yoda (the greatest lightsabre duelist ever) attacking you and if you do not have a lightsabre to fight back... You're going to lose. Someone moving as fast as yoda can with blade is going to be very difficult to fight against with just the force.
@pattonbster
@pattonbster Жыл бұрын
I don't think sidious is stronger than yoda when it comes to raw force power. You have to consider that yoda's light saber form requires him to use the force which allows him the agility he has at his age. By the time the duel between sidious and yoda switched to using strictly the force, yoda was already gassed which gave sidious the upper hand.
@gregorybritt8373
@gregorybritt8373 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you saying that
@darthmemewalker2807
@darthmemewalker2807 Жыл бұрын
But yet sidious suffered the same fate as most other villians, he became overconfident
@CorbCorbin
@CorbCorbin Жыл бұрын
Well, he turned his back on his apprentice, who he’d been trying to replace for years. 😄
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 Жыл бұрын
haha yup against yoda he was lucky it didn't cost him his life thankfully for him unlike when Anakin became overconfident on Mustafar Sidious realized he was in danger and switched tactics putting distance between himself and Yoda then using his superior force powers he knew he didn't have to kill Yoda just drive him back and make him flee the planet
@darthmemewalker2807
@darthmemewalker2807 Жыл бұрын
@@CorbCorbin and he started monologing as well
@Gigglenips
@Gigglenips Жыл бұрын
Too bad Yoda lent to the overall stagnation and arrogance that allowed the Sith to take shape and manipulate the galaxy behind the scenes. To allow the "non-existant" sith to craft two halves of a war that ate away at the values of the Jedi until the entire order was destroyed. Exile and training Luke doesnt make up for literal centuries of Yoda believing he didn't have a dark side.
@ahmadag1820
@ahmadag1820 11 ай бұрын
he didn't the architect of the Jedi's misery was Grandmaster Farfala 500 years before Yoda could do anything about it yoda himself was a teenager when trained by his master del gormo who opposed that regieme
@Gigglenips
@Gigglenips 11 ай бұрын
@ahmadag1820 Farfalla and the Jedi Lords of that time aren't relevant. Despite the belief that the sith were "extinct" after slaying Bane is tied to them, neither Farfalla nor the supposed Master of Yoda had anywhere near as much impact as Yoda. He served as Grandmaster of the Jedi Order for roughly 200 years. He didn't believe he had any darkness within him, didn't believe Qui Gon when he claimed to face a sith, and didn't offer the necessary attention to Anakin during his training.
@ahmadag1820
@ahmadag1820 11 ай бұрын
@@Gigglenips Oh yeas Farfalla was highly relevant he instituted the system of the Jedi used for recruitment two opposed by Yoda's teacher del gormo who opposed those reforms by the time Yoda could do anything about it it had been entrenched and banned on training adults those two were brought in by him.
@Gigglenips
@Gigglenips 11 ай бұрын
@ahmadag1820 Recruitment and age requirement training policy didn't cause the Jedi Order to fall. Anakin was able to be trained, after all. Two centuries of stagnation and near-indifference towards the potential of the Sith had more of a hand than that. Yoda's choices, arrogance, and age made it to where other Masters, even on the High Council, weren't inclined to disagree with him. That's part of why Qui Gon turned down a Council position and part of why Mace Windu was chosen for one over Dooku. It had all become politics, and Yoda not only allowed it to happen but encouraged it. Yoda believed that he couldn't fall and that he was right. It didn't help that he was surrounded by other Jedi Masters constantly praising him, but his failure as a Jedi resonated through the generations of Jedi he taught. Look into what Yoda saw when he went into the Cave of Evil somewhat early into his exile on Dagobah. Couple that with when he fought his own darkside self, and you'll see that he came to understand the magnitude of his failure and how it shaped the fall of the Jedi Order.
@PereMarquette1223
@PereMarquette1223 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if Sidious and Dooku ever sparred. I would’ve loved to have seen Dooku’s opinion of Sidious’s skills with the lightsaber.
@silverchairsg
@silverchairsg 11 ай бұрын
I guess probably not, it's not the Sith way to show one's true strength or weaknesses to the apprentice.
@jsmitty2047
@jsmitty2047 Жыл бұрын
Stalemate? Because Dooku knew that he could not win, Yoda was merely toying with him and not engaging fully in the ways that he could until his opportunity came. How was he superior in raw force power? Yoda broke his shield, returned the senate seats, and blocked and returned his force lightning! Sidious was not more powerful in the force...
@roc50140
@roc50140 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Yoda disarmed him & blocked all his attacks. Just didn’t have enough time cuz an army was coming for him.
@BrianReno-qy9wk
@BrianReno-qy9wk 10 ай бұрын
Yup it was a planned attack between Yoda and obi wan. The problem was it took obi wan to long to dispatch Anakin and Yoda wanted sidous to feel the death of his apprentice and land his killing blow .it was tactics that just didn't work out the way yoda planned it . But had it continued and the 501st not been coming then Yoda would have defeated him .he out dueled him and matches him power for power and actually a little more because sidous went flying further when they were on the Senate pod Yoda was already at the edge sidous flew back 6 feet Yoda moved like 1 foot. So yodas power was stronger watch it again see how far sidous is thrown back.
@Historicutuber
@Historicutuber 11 ай бұрын
I noticed he initially did t want to fight Yoda….
@auroraflash
@auroraflash Жыл бұрын
Sidious had the high ground against Yoda. Gravity helped him as he was throwing items down at Yoda and pushed upwards when the force bubble burst. 💥
@guillermotorres203
@guillermotorres203 Жыл бұрын
I still failed to understand why my perspective is so much different from what I commonly hear from the Star Wars community in KZbin when commenting about the battle at the senate between Yoda and Palpatine. From what I saw Yoda not only defeated Sidious in the light saber duel but with the force as well. Yoda not only rejected and made Palpatine fly away with the senate seats thrown by Sidious who had the advantage of gravity and spinning (obviously because he was running from Yoda trying to put distance between them) but catch and pushed back the amazing force lighting punch from Sidious. Did that last parts played wrong against Yoda due to his size and poor standing? did Yoda decided not to keep fighting because he finally understood that instead of searching for peace he was drawn to war and violence? That I guess is up to each individual's conclusion. But to me, as for the fight alone, I really don't see a single time in which Yoda was over powered by Sidious.
@Xeronoia
@Xeronoia 11 ай бұрын
The thing about the jedi council and the sith is they both make the mistake of being, essentially, echo chambers. They have no idea whats going on with anything outside their circles, so they easily convince themselves they can handle whatever is going on or that the other side couldn't possibly be more powerful. It ended up being the Jedi that were destroyed but it was a lot closer than it seems, there's quite a few spots where everything could have ended with Palpatine getting himself killed early.
@ironman44320
@ironman44320 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't Form VII lend it self to those who revel in combat? If so, then it makes sense that Sidious would hold on to his lightsabers, even he didn't often feel a need to use them.
@jayceez7747
@jayceez7747 Жыл бұрын
"If so powerful you are, why leave?"
@ChuckChampagne
@ChuckChampagne 2 ай бұрын
Sideous wanted to retreat to close quarters to defeat Yoda? A tiny green dude jumping around who has double the space Sideous does given his size? He’s gonna be bouncing off every wall like a possessed beyblade.
@SlidingRhino
@SlidingRhino 11 ай бұрын
It was a tie. Both knew the future needs certain things to happen to go thier way. Yoda knew he needed retreat to be ready for Luke. Too much murkiness the future holds if he defeated Darth Sidius then and there. Yoda took the best path for long term victory.
@KazuyaVeranes
@KazuyaVeranes Жыл бұрын
“Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor.” - Jedi Grandmaster Yoda, Return of the Jedi. Yes, Lord Sidious defeated Yoda and there is no buts about it.
@sammfiggy112284
@sammfiggy112284 Жыл бұрын
Incredible video 😮 I thank you
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 Жыл бұрын
I don’t necessarily think that Palpatine was stronger in the force than Yoda. He was just willing to use the force for evil.
@esotericsage6914
@esotericsage6914 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thank you. It is easier to destroy than to build.
@jpraise6771
@jpraise6771 Жыл бұрын
Palpatine was greater than Anakin in the force bros. Read the books, darth Sidious is unironically a chosen one style figure but for the sith(also explaining why Vader could never surpass him, despite being more powerful than his Anakin self)
@esotericsage6914
@esotericsage6914 Жыл бұрын
@@jpraise6771 The discussion is Palpative vs. Yoda, not Anakin.
@knightingale9833
@knightingale9833 11 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to know what the results would have been if Sidious and Yoda dueled a second time before Return of the Jedi. Both had grown much older and slower by then.
@thecringekid5744
@thecringekid5744 7 ай бұрын
The only reason Palpatine won against Yoda was because Yoda wasn't physically strong enough to hold on to the pod. Had he done so, Sidious would have died right then and there. My headcanon is that in the writers' room, they were like: "Alright, how do we make Sidious win without beating Yoda?"
@johnhorton4436
@johnhorton4436 Жыл бұрын
Well Yoda was Grandmaster for a Great Deal Of the High Republic Era after All so He Had Centuries to Hone His Strength in Both the Force and Lightsaber Combat and without having the Sith Around to Kill Him when he was Younger Like Grogu
@Idkidkidk716
@Idkidkidk716 Жыл бұрын
Him fighting maul and savage had me speechless he was toying with them because he knew he out matched them.
@edstockton3685
@edstockton3685 10 ай бұрын
He did for the most part but you'll notice a more anguished look on his face toward the climax of his solo duel with Maul when Maul comes at him with his lightsaber and the darksaber. I think Maul tapped into his rage enough to give Sidious pause for thought, hence why he resorted to force powers.
@hansoskar1911
@hansoskar1911 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was nonsense that Sidious was a master with the lightsaber. He had very little practise compared to the jedi nor reason to use it. incredibly gifted in the force, cunning and knowledgable. sure. even great at a specific, rare lightsaber form but mastery in all forms of the blade never made sense. It also makes sense that he loses to Yoda and Anakin who were gifted warriors who also saw a lot of combat. Yoda not that much but definetly way more than Sidious who had other stuff to do.
@goatkiller666
@goatkiller666 Жыл бұрын
Okay, sure the force can tweak luck, but Sidious was lucky as heck. Had Anakin not landed the ship, and anything gone wrong in that rescue, he was dead. Had Mace Windu decided to arrest him, instead of kill him (forcing Anakin to save him)… so many die rolls.
@kiteracer2497
@kiteracer2497 Жыл бұрын
That scene was sort of perfect because, it's so difficult to know what happened. It would seem sidious wouldn't intentionally put himself in a position to get cut in half. But maybe he knew he could have defended himself if windu tried to kill him. Then I guess there is the question of could he completely rely on anakin helping him. Then the question of if he thought or new he could bring himself back from the dead He could just thought it was worth the risk because in his mind anakin was so important to turn.
@SHADOWDRAGON71
@SHADOWDRAGON71 Жыл бұрын
If Windu hadn't taken that pause when he had Sidious on his a$$ and just waxed him then, there wouldn't have even been a story to tell except one of peace.
@goatkiller666
@goatkiller666 Жыл бұрын
@@SHADOWDRAGON71 - There’s a little-known sith power called “Monologue”, where you inspire the target to pause and do a villain monologue. It’s usually used on sith, but since Windu is so close to the dark side, he was susceptible.
@johnwebb4499
@johnwebb4499 Жыл бұрын
You made a good reel of The Emporer. "You can't save him and stop all that I will do. ⚡ ⚡ Ah Ha Ha Ha Haaa"
@eatmorenachos
@eatmorenachos Жыл бұрын
It would've made a lot more sense for Yoda and Obi-Wan to take on Palpatine together, before going after Darth Vader.
@alexshropshire4651
@alexshropshire4651 Жыл бұрын
Also, at the end, he not only holds Sidious's force lightning but meets it and sends them both flying. He also took one of those spinning senator booths and sent it back at Sidious. Mace beat Sidious, also, until Anakin chopped his hand off!
@acdimensional6491
@acdimensional6491 Жыл бұрын
Make a video about the full story of the Blackwing virus
@ThatGuy182545
@ThatGuy182545 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Palpatine had any respect for the lightsaber or lightsaber combat at all. He continued the practice because it was a skill that he had already developed during his Sith training, and as such it still had some use. I feel as though, for Sidious, the lightsaber was a fallback plan. It was a backup to his backup.
@realQuestion
@realQuestion 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I could tell Palpatine was terrified of Yoda from the way he...cackled gleefully over and over while fighting Yoda, and then won the fight 🙄
@boooster101
@boooster101 7 ай бұрын
Also he tried to catch him by surprise with his force lightning ..... By raising his hands stretched out as slow as possible
@johnhorton4436
@johnhorton4436 Жыл бұрын
And come to Think Of It the Sith of any Time could be Compared in terms of there Insatiable Quest for Knowledge and Immortality to The Norse God Odin
@landonletterman831
@landonletterman831 11 ай бұрын
"Mock the Jedi" all you want, _it's still one hell of a practical weapon!_ I could literally use it to shape armor or fashion another weapon with it, or I could cut a bunch of molten shrapnel to fling at you! It has uses, especially for a force wielder, no matter the side you choose
@laurierpayment2582
@laurierpayment2582 Жыл бұрын
Another life action blade dueling emperor matching the strength of the fight scene with Maul and Savage would be appreciated
@ProphetOfDoubt
@ProphetOfDoubt 5 ай бұрын
I thought when Yoda & Dooku fought, Palpatine was more concerned/fearful of if he was better than Dooku, since Dooku held his own with Yoda
@leonwoodley99
@leonwoodley99 8 ай бұрын
During the last Duel, Sidious honestly seems pretty happy in most of that fight.
@ozmozis6073
@ozmozis6073 Жыл бұрын
Liked this holocron. Unsure if you explained how Yoda was able to absorb so much of Palpatine's force lightening? Yoda did the same with Dooku. There was an intense amount of hate in those bursts. why didn't Yoda deflect it? Did he teach the other masters the ability? when it comes to lightsaber combat, I look to the Father of Mortis who was able to touch Anakin's blade and ignore it. The weapon had little or no meaning for him. On a scale of combat, this is how I see how far the development of combat gets - the closest was Ezra who defended himself confidently without a blade. Why didn't the Mortis gods take out the Mother with the blade themselves? Was the blade that the Night Sister used against Ashoka stronger than a saber? Strong enough to kill the Mother?
@henrycrabb9737
@henrycrabb9737 Жыл бұрын
I maintain my opinion that Yoda was not defeated. He was disarmed and Sidious fled. There would have been no point in chasing him he didn't have his weapon.
@m3m04y
@m3m04y Жыл бұрын
Stupendous Wave videos be like: WHy PALPAtINe wAs terriFIEd OF c3p0 (lEgends caNON) (Star waRS eXPLaInEd)
@EstevanChavez-e8z
@EstevanChavez-e8z Жыл бұрын
What cartoon and episode was that of young dooku fight a younger yoda with hair?
@lorenfisher4180
@lorenfisher4180 10 ай бұрын
It's from Tales of the Jedi on Disney+. He's fighting with Yaddle, not Yoda.
@carloslacerda8888
@carloslacerda8888 10 ай бұрын
Funny how Yoda could bring down a fucking imperial dreadnought with telekinesis but couldn't throw away those flying disk chairs that Palps kept throwing at him
@The_Desert_Tiger
@The_Desert_Tiger Жыл бұрын
I kinda feel like Dooku was wasted by Sidious, Sidious should have taken Dooku under the Sith but not as an Apprentice but new role like Instructor in order not to break the rule of 2 this could allow Dooku to help train new Apprentices/Assassins for Sidious and also later on Royal Guards or the Inquisitors freeing up Vader to do other tasks.
@ThousandMask
@ThousandMask Жыл бұрын
Walking stick Yoda using, for sure great mental trick is Mmmmrrr😂
@mariomsg9885
@mariomsg9885 2 ай бұрын
I think it's the other way around. At some point he feared Dooku when he was aware that he had been able to maintain a balanced duel against Yoda on Geonosis.
@jameswest4259
@jameswest4259 Жыл бұрын
Sidious is my all time favorite movie character, he would have found a way to beat Yoda, Yoda was too old, Team Darkside!
@mikael557
@mikael557 11 ай бұрын
Palpatine's affinity to the force was insidious while Sidious' mastery of the lightsaber was palpable.
@3313-c2j
@3313-c2j 4 ай бұрын
What I saw was yoda, talking that force lighting and over powering Palpatine, just like mace beating him in the lightsaber fight ,But the lost the battle
@emo565
@emo565 Жыл бұрын
I agree with ryan4327 I don’t think ether one managed to beat the other. It was more of a draw with Palpatine doing his best to get away after yoda got up after being hit by Force lightning. I think the final moment of the fight before both retreated is proof of this, it was a pure Force battle at that point and both were sent flying and both chose not to reengage
@bryanhickernell7189
@bryanhickernell7189 Жыл бұрын
The thing though is yoda needed to defeat sidious to kill him to win. Sidious only needed to survive to win. A draw is a win for Sidious as he is still alive and able to run the empire
@emo565
@emo565 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanhickernell7189 No a draw is when both sides win, both sides lose, or both sides get a partial victory. but that's beside the point, Palpatine fully intended to kill Yoda with that opening attack and changing to running only after finding out it wasn't going to be that easy. with Yoda planning and doing the same thing. they both lost that battle, but Palpatine won the war.
@bryanhickernell7189
@bryanhickernell7189 Жыл бұрын
@@emo565 exactly the battle was a draw but because both survived palpatine was still able to have the empire be a thing and go to save Vader on mustafar. At that point yoda needed a kill in order to def win
@silverchairsg
@silverchairsg 11 ай бұрын
Wait, in Matthew Stover's novelization of ROTS, didn't he say something to the effect of Yoda realized that he, with all the millennia of wisdom and knowledge of the Order, was no match for the Sith?
@gymthink6587
@gymthink6587 Жыл бұрын
Palps fanboy choosing to forget sidious was on the run the moment he got luzzed across his desk & was getting done by yoda at the end having his lightning driven back at him which he couldn't stop. Yoda didn't fail because sidious was stronger he just fell further & palps had an army rock up
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 Жыл бұрын
there's a key thing to note here as Arrogant as Palps could be he was smart enough to know when he was in trouble and from the start he knew that this duel was not about killing Yoda as much as he wanted to do that it was about surviving and Driving Yoda back out of the building and off of the planet which he succeeded he put distance between himself and Yoda then use his force powers to fling objects at Yoda
@charlesbarnes7520
@charlesbarnes7520 Жыл бұрын
Sidious immediately felt Yodas ability to wield dark side force capabilities without seccuming to the dark side. Sidious had never encountered any Jedi with such profound force knowledge and power. This scared Sidious . When he then realized Yoda had umatched ability with a light saber, his fear became terror and he ran away.
@andrewr8144
@andrewr8144 Жыл бұрын
How was Sidious stronger in force power than Yoda? Yoda took his force lighting in his hands and was about to blast it back at him, until the explosion broke them up. The look in Sidious eyes says everything, he had met someone with more power.
@Escara1
@Escara1 6 ай бұрын
And Yoda was suffering for Jedi purge(order 66), that was affecting the Force yet. The dark side was stronger in that moment, so Sidious was overperforming. Yoda in his top condition was even stronger.
@Paivren
@Paivren 6 ай бұрын
The look in Sidious eyes lol. He was about to overpower Yoda who was barely able to keep the lightning at bay and then got shocked when Yoda somehow managed to hold and make the force explode between them - which ultimately was worse for Yoda himself as he would fall off the platform. Sidious levitated 4 senate platforms at once without even trying, throwing them like frisbees and laughing his ass off, whereas Yoda had to exert himself to handle a single platform. What's more, Sidious was able to cloak Yoda's force vision to the point where he couldn't notice the most powerful dark side user of all time being right under his nose. While Yoda is close, Sidious is more powerful in the force.
@andrewr8144
@andrewr8144 6 ай бұрын
@@Paivren That's just glazing for the Dark Side. Yoda took that force lightning in his hands. Enough said
@Paivren
@Paivren 6 ай бұрын
@@andrewr8144 and Sidious shot it from his hands. Enough said. Genius.
@frostbot117
@frostbot117 6 ай бұрын
​@Paivren have a conversation, no let's insult people with different opinions. What a joke. You both made your points. Don't get salty now Paivren, you almost had a normal conversation.
@santuccie5621
@santuccie5621 Жыл бұрын
I don’t really believe that Palpatine was superior in the Force, at least not in terms of achieving a higher level of mastery in any specific skill. From where I stand, he had two things that Yoda didn’t have: the first was offensive Force attacks, which the Jedi can’t have, because the use of Force lightning requires hate. Yoda had Force-based telekinesis and tutaminis, but Force pushing doesn’t really end a fight, and tutaminis is a defensive technique. So, the only real offense the Jedi have is the lightsaber. That’s why, even when Yoda one-upped Palpatine by spinning a senate pod, he only did it to close the distance. As soon as he was back in front of Palpatine, he whipped his lightsaber back out. The other advantage Palpatine had was time. He wasn’t able to kill Yoda, but he didn’t have to. All he had to do was survive until reinforcements arrived.
@sdscipio
@sdscipio Жыл бұрын
The difference in the battle is Sidious was trying to kill Yoda, while Yoda was ttying to subdue and arrest This always leave an advantage to the one whose goal to kill. So it seems like that Yoda was losing, while he was in actuality gaining the best of Sidious.
@shadeofshattered3
@shadeofshattered3 Жыл бұрын
His overconfidence was his downfall his life was a trick succeeded for so Long just to become reckless and die
@jamestalbot6916
@jamestalbot6916 Жыл бұрын
I disagree that Dukoo's style was designed for demoralization, I do not believe that he would be so foolish as to do something like that. It is most likely that his style, is instead designed to leave no possibility of a lucky hit ending his career. There are a good many stories of great swordsmen, being defeated by less skilled opponents because they were reckless with a blade, and did things no true swordsman would do. Such as taking a chance of being stabbed straight in the chest, in order to hit your enemy. Dukoo of course knows about this, and does everything he can in a fight to make it impossible for anyone but him to win.
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688 Жыл бұрын
Dude you did a whole 10 minute video just to say Palpatine/Lord Sidious believe the Sith was beyond using the Blade, but now was within a position to use politics to destroy their enemies. Politics is War without bloodshed and War is Vice Versa. This is why everyone who didn't like the prequels base on the Politics would never get StarWars and shouldn't talk about it. This the difference between StarWars Fans and GoT Fans who know Politics is everything.
@Lily_Hasson666
@Lily_Hasson666 Жыл бұрын
Yoda lost so he could train luke in the future because yoda wanted darth vader redeemed and no one else good do it except for Luke because Luke saw the good in Darth Vader unlike obi wan or yoda
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 Жыл бұрын
He didn't know about their existence until later and was reluctant to teach someone so similar to his father who was mentally very unstable.
@mysticalarchives7821
@mysticalarchives7821 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Sidious would’ve lost to Yoda if not for his positioning in the Senate Chamber. Yoda overpowered him when redirecting the force lightning, but the blast wave sent both flying and Yoda just happened to be the one facing an open end. If their positions had been reversed, Palpatine would’ve died.
@HyoGoro-se8tb
@HyoGoro-se8tb 11 ай бұрын
Sidious just got a high ground that's all, bur even tho. He got the advantage specially in the environment of the place they've fought, Yoda's still managed to fight on par to sidious. Everything is on advantage to sidious, if it was just a plane area like chancellor office, master Yoda's will fold him hard same way windu did to him. Yoda's just only got limited time to beat sidious and there's also an incoming battalion of trooper.
@John-b7w5b
@John-b7w5b Жыл бұрын
Id say that the chosen one is the 🐐 but i understand what you're saying.
@jaredquinney204
@jaredquinney204 Жыл бұрын
Yoda is one of the best lightsabers fighters
@roc50140
@roc50140 Жыл бұрын
Possibly the greatest
@BabarizamDK
@BabarizamDK Жыл бұрын
I think it was yoda who ran away. Palpatine masked himself among Every Tom and Harry Jedi. Both Sith and Yoda race were genetically strong in the force. Sith was a race and though strong users of the dark side used the title, they were never entitled to call themselves Sith (in offical terms, its like Alexander the great calling himself god just because he thought he was). Even Vader was a weak force user due to his duality. I consider Lord Tenebrae as strongest Sith lord.
@strikerfrost7222
@strikerfrost7222 Жыл бұрын
So basically Sidious wore his brown pants in ROTS
@mikemichailidis1685
@mikemichailidis1685 Ай бұрын
Darth Sidious is my most favourite character in Star Wars. But he underestimated master Yoda in that duel big time
@Gor85
@Gor85 Жыл бұрын
This is perfect analysis! Yoda beat Sidious. Definitely. Dooku was not more powerful than Yoda. Absolutely not. Dooku was exceptionally powerful. But Yoda other league. May the Force be with you too😊
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 Жыл бұрын
oh yea the key thing for Dooku is almost anyone Yoda would have dueled on Genosis would have been killed Dooku was just powerful enough to avoid getting killed and use a distraction to escape he saw what later Sidious saw trying to Kill Yoda is a bad idea i just need to ensure i don't die and i will be fine
@Gor85
@Gor85 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 true
@ballzackball7170
@ballzackball7170 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think city has had more Force Power I think because he got the quote unquote High Ground he was able to win
@lissadawes4243
@lissadawes4243 10 ай бұрын
I have a question. Why was Yoda prepared for Dooku’s Force lightning but not Sidious’ lightning? Could he not sense it from Sidious? If so why not? Has this been explained before?
@arronfrazier7873
@arronfrazier7873 9 ай бұрын
Its simple! Mace and Yoda didn't realize how fast Palpatine was as a force wielder. If both knew, he was the fast, Windu and the other 3 Jedi entered the office, he would have rushed him right away to arrest him and with Yoda, he would have attacked right away.
@darrencole97
@darrencole97 Жыл бұрын
Yoda rocks he certainly is the GOAT
@mrgangrdon6592
@mrgangrdon6592 7 ай бұрын
Palpatine sht himself when you force pushed him and he tried to run cause of how afraid he got
@wolfshanze5980
@wolfshanze5980 11 ай бұрын
Once the fight reached the Senate chamber, it was obvious the fight was over as Palpatine had the high ground. As any sensible Jedi would do, Yoda retreated, as Jedi 101 training is never attack an opponent who holds the high ground.
@TheMijaras
@TheMijaras Жыл бұрын
I am curious who Sidious killed for his Kyber crystals.
@dfralli1980
@dfralli1980 7 ай бұрын
The duel between Yoda n sidious ends like a royal rumble. Yodas feet hit the ground sidious didn't sooo
@HiVisl
@HiVisl Жыл бұрын
If one thing was apparent from the six originals that George created, it's this: the Jedi are weak. The sith ran rings around them, physically and strategically.
@caseybranton812
@caseybranton812 11 ай бұрын
Yoda spoke softly and carried a big stick
@venkelos6996
@venkelos6996 11 ай бұрын
Then, how does this work in Revenge of the Sith, if CW Sidious DID battle Yoda before then? Yoda hadn't grown EVEN stronger, so what did one of them not do that ked to a subsequent duel (RotS) revealing such a closeness in skill, that hadn't been present before? (Apart from "they wrote the movie first)
@sbell651
@sbell651 5 ай бұрын
I do not believe Sidious bested Yoda or was stronger in the force. Yoda was able to take everything that Sidious did and the battle only ends because Yoda falls and storm troopers arrive. The force was telling Yoda that it was not the right time and he listened.
@breonwilson8790
@breonwilson8790 9 ай бұрын
Actually, Yoda was not outmatched in their duel. If you read the novel, Sidious lost. He didn’t put away his lightsabers, he was disarmed by Yoda. In the movie it cuts away to Anakin and Obi-Wan, and when it goes back, Sidious is throwing senate seats. The novel states that in the midst of their duel, Sidious was doomed. Sidious 100% lost that duel. No questions to it. Just read the novel. And Yoda only retreated once he finally broke through the veil saw the hidden visions of the force of the Sith entire plan. Sidious was outmatched. And also, he wasn’t trying to fight Yoda in the hallway. Actually, Yoda small stature and his form 4 Ataru, would make Yoda at a distinct advantage. And let’s not also forget, Yoda was also a master of all forms of lightsaber combat as well, so Yoda preferring form 4 would not be a hindrance. Sidious knew he couldn’t defeat Yoda in closed space, hence trying to run away, but when thwarted, he methodically move the fight to the senate chamber, so should he fail, he could retreat to his force abilities. That’s why he began throwing senate pods. He’d already lost the duel and was trying to keep Yoda at a distance. And Yoda, being the paragon of the light side of the force, does not wield the force as destructively as a Sith, because he viewed using the force outside of defensive purposes, was disrespectful to the force. Yoda knew Sidious was outmatched and that’s why you see Yoda trying to clear the distance between them and reininitiate the duel. As you see in the movies, when Yoda finally does get close enough again and relights his lightsaber, Sidious, not having his own and being truly terrified, unleashed his full power of force lighting which was equally matched by Yoda. And actually, Sidious using his full might in his force lighting and being that scared of Yoda, is actually what finally allowed Yoda to finally breach the vision of the force that the dark side had hidden
@invasion8318
@invasion8318 Жыл бұрын
some time ago you (probably) have uploaded a video stating that sidious became wary of..dooku because he survived 1v1'ing yoda - so which one is it? :D
@TheUltimateGhostface
@TheUltimateGhostface Жыл бұрын
You forget that Sidious was a culmination of a thousand years of planning by generations of Sith orchestrating the Grand Plan. Sidious Said himself he couldn't have got into the position of power without his master Darth Plagious. Plus if Sidious was soo powerful then why didn't he fight Plagious straight up... Darth Bane would have not approved with how Sidious " defeated " his Master by getting him drunk and waiting when Plagious was old and far from his prime. Don't take My word for it go read the Bane Trilogy. Bane makes it clear that the mantle of the Sith was to be earned not stolen or cheated like a weak coward
@unclejoker9975
@unclejoker9975 Жыл бұрын
Well, Sidious did use the high ground. We all know how that goes.
@VanBuren43
@VanBuren43 Жыл бұрын
why are all these jedi and sith terrified of people, objects, force powers, lightsabers etc? why did they become jedi/sith? the can't deal with the universe. they really needed to become hermits, hide themselves away in a cave to study the force and never be forced to endure fear again
@roc50140
@roc50140 Жыл бұрын
Yoda is arguably the greatest saber duelist ever so yea I’d be scared.
@MentalWarrior777
@MentalWarrior777 7 ай бұрын
Siddious thinking every sith was suppirior to ever Jedi is as blind as yoda was about the sith return. Ultimately the Jedi returned too circle if u think about it . Imagine if yoda knew early enough . Thats what i wanna see before the droid army could be complete a Equal all out war
@darthsidius9631
@darthsidius9631 Жыл бұрын
Palpatine is terrified of dooku, sidius is terrified of Yoda. Who palpatine isn't terrified of?
@ahmadag1820
@ahmadag1820 11 ай бұрын
he wasn't better than yoda force with the force either when yoda decided he threw one of pods back at with more power and accuracy than Sidious ever did
@Montrovantis
@Montrovantis 9 ай бұрын
I know it's fiction, but I don't think he was afraid of Yoda. He laughed while fighting him. Yoda, as you explained in this video, was simply the most likely to detect his deception.
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