Valkorian/Vitiate was the only character in the SW lore where he held so much power that the force actually had to turn against him...
@craytherlaygaming28528 ай бұрын
Not just the force itself, but EVERY force user as well
@dreadrath8 ай бұрын
Well I'd argue Plagueis and Darth Traya also pissed off the force to such an extent that it personally ensured their downfall, not so much due to their raw power, but due to their horrific plans.
@Ceriu8 ай бұрын
it couldnt even DO IT by itself...because he legit was its master...someone had to do ritual bs to even stand a chance against him and even then he just about won regardless.
@SebBurnsRubber8 ай бұрын
@@dreadrathI very much agree with that, Although I think kreia had a significant hand in instructing Revan and redefining his philosophy and character, seen and felt by the force, thus rebalancing the equation of light vs dark by doing so. Yes she was EVIL, but her plans were ultimately foiled. 😊 Great perspective bro
@exile66888 ай бұрын
Eh: Maur. His talisman was so potent that the force itself hid it from the galaxy. Revan was restrained by both Jedi and Sith from unleashing his full potential. Darth Krayt could puncture the Celestial Aboloth bare handed.
@angelmin88198 ай бұрын
"Without me, you are nothing." "Whatever helps you sleep at night, old man."
@Sci-Fi-Mike8 ай бұрын
That and a blue "space pill" for his cloning project...
@aaronzimmet8228 ай бұрын
Thus ends the reign of the immortal emperor
@richv18938 ай бұрын
The ultimate Sith, power no matter the cost.
@neusyns8 ай бұрын
"Should I stop my apprentice from killing me?" *Sith smile* "Nah, id win"
@DMBLaan8 ай бұрын
For those saying "But the Player Character of SWTOR beat Vitiate", its important to remember the context of the 2 times this happened. The first time, at the end of Fallen Empire, it was with the help of Arcann, Vaylin, Senya, AND a Holocron made by Vitiate himself to do so. And the 2nd and final time, the Outlander had even more help from every being who had felt Vitiate's power, and even the Force itself, to kill him forever. Plus it was a older version of Vitiate, a more pure, but unrefined version that didn't have time to build up his full power again.
@Needler138 ай бұрын
Aye and both the Jedi and sith warrior class story allows them to kill him. It is all part of his grander plan.
@koniu20248 ай бұрын
Jedi Knight: "hold my beer, imma kill him" You literally skipped the part of JK story, where you literally are destined to kill Vitiate.
@Evren_8 ай бұрын
@@koniu2024 technically the sith warrior killed him too in their class story
@robinsondermann67158 ай бұрын
The Main character of SWTOR is still very powerful, maybe Not more powerful than vitiate, but probably around the Power of Palpatine or higher
@robinsondermann67158 ай бұрын
@@Evren_only His voice
@aster4jaden8 ай бұрын
Vitiate consumed atleast two planets and 8000 Sith Lords (after dominating their minds) and could even freeze time, i'd definitely say he was more powerful than Sidious. I also love how he used various forms of immortality at once to keep himself alive and not just setting on one. I never thought that Valkorion had actually empowered the Knights of Zakuul from himself, I thought it was just a belief but I do like the idea of it since it aligns with his Children of the Emperor Ritual.
@jakealter55048 ай бұрын
Sidious repeatedly absorbed the life force of a planet with a much larger population but didn’t completely strip the planet of life (that way he could do it repeatedly)
@uncouthliyouth44868 ай бұрын
These feats sound like they come from the mind of a small child trying to one up another toddler’s head canon.
@gauthierwagner33658 ай бұрын
People also disregard that Nathema at the time was also populated by the Sith pure bloods, so not only did he absorb the life force from 8000 Sith Lords, but also millions of a force sensitive species
@martinvr128 ай бұрын
@@uncouthliyouth4486 true.
@TheSatanicBachelor8 ай бұрын
@@jakealter5504 Sidious did not wanted to strip the planet of life as he wanted to rule over the living as he said to Vader and it would have been foolish as his clone bodies were stored there...
@Gelph8 ай бұрын
I’m so glad you made this video I’ve been arguing this for years!
@timconner76938 ай бұрын
The description of what he was like even as an infant makes me wonder if some even earlier Sith Lord found a way to reincarnate themselves with their prior knowledge and power.
@Llewellyn-n4g8 ай бұрын
I think, could be wrong, Darth Annedu did such a thing
@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga8 ай бұрын
Technically if he did it would have been essence transfer. When Tenebre was born he had an immense dark aura and eyes that were pure black. Which means that he was just born with great power. Much like how Palpatine was very strong already, but Tenebre was just born stronger.
@Lobsterwithinternet4 ай бұрын
@@Lord_Oda_NobunagaBut that wouldn’t explain how he knew how to do all the things he could with no training as a child.
@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga4 ай бұрын
@@Lobsterwithinternet I don't think that Tenebre knew Essence Transfer as a child.
@Lobsterwithinternet4 ай бұрын
@@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga I meant everything he knew as a child.
@Guntrap8618 ай бұрын
The mind domination feat to the level of implanting his consciousness into beings - quite fascinating ! And the multiple applications of force lightning is ingenious as well. Remarkable invention!
@_FLOROID_8 ай бұрын
Thank you. This was a long time coming! :D
@isaacmoore65526 ай бұрын
I'd like to point something out. There is SO MUCH debate on who would win in a duel between Sidious and Vitiate. But people forget that Vitiate has shared experiences. Revan was seen as one of the best users of a lightsaber of his time, and since Vitiate planted part of himself into Revan's subconscious, as well as any other skilled lightsaber users, which would still give him the knowledge of how to wield the infamous tool. 'Course, knowing and using is two separate things, but Valkorian as simply Valkorian before Vitiate was a well known warrior of his home planet.
@dotdot25603 ай бұрын
Bruh this man definitely knows how to weild a lightsaber he was born during the golden age after tulak hords reign he killed his father in a duel and Marka Ragnos realized his talents and gave him a position of power when he was a pre teen this man definitely fought in the great hyperspace war and survived id say yes this mf knows how to fucking utilize it hell he is probably a fucking expert in other ancient sith weapons Also depends where u get ur lore but wookiepedia notes this mf killed thousands by the age of ten and thats when he dueled his father and when Marka Ragnos gave him a position of power
@Shadowdragon_TV6 ай бұрын
At this point, I think they said Sidious was the most powerful Sith based on lore. In terms of feats and actual concrete evidence, Vitiate stands in a tier of his own.
@michaelarrington988Ай бұрын
Vitiate/Valkorian is that guy he was so powerful sith and Jedi had to team up to take him on . Sidious didn't have to compete with other powerful sith lord like Vitiate did.
@scottmcmichael3198 ай бұрын
Nihilus vs vitiate is an incredibly interesting possibility, and it really could have happened if vitiate chose to reveal himself during nihilus reign over the galaxy, but vitiate would be like a 5 star buffet for nihilus, vitiates power in the force would send nihilus into a state of unhinged hunger, but vitiate has insane powers that nihilus could only dream of, including warping one’s mind to his singular will, but I imagine there fight would end in a battle of force drain between the two, they have both force drained planets and they both are walking wounds in the force, nihilus is said to be able to drain any force sensitive, however vitiates powers and abilities especially within the mind might be a checkmate for nihilus, but if nihilus is able to fend off vitiates attacks then it would go into a battle of force drain and who would win is entirely up for debate
@Gelph8 ай бұрын
I agree, I always got the feeling that vitiate over his millennia of existing, unlocked secrets no one ever did before. The power of life drain isn’t unique to Nihilus, just the scale, and I’m sure many powerfull Jedi and sith knew how to counter this ability on a normal scale. I think if anyone could could resist Nihilus in that way, it would be vitiate, and with time to prepare and plan, I think that vitiate would likely come out on top.
@scottmcmichael3198 ай бұрын
@@Gelph I totally agree man, I definitely believe he knew abilities with the force no one else did and that’s why he had my edge in a fight but I could only imagine to the extent nihilus power would grow if he actually drained vitiate
@Gelph8 ай бұрын
@@scottmcmichael319 oh I see I miss read what you were saying in your original. But yes that would be quite an interesting thing to see. It’s also interesting because it seems that the nathema ritual siphoned force on a level deeper than Nihilus, as his planets are never described as the same sort of oblivion as nathema, I wonder if that kinda power might actually be able to satisfy his hunger for a certain amount of time. It could also imagine it also being his undoing as it might bring him to a point of hunger that he just couldn’t sate in enough time.
@tandava-0898 ай бұрын
@@Gelph He already literally consumed his body and mind and was barely holding his ship together.... :I Nihilus was powerful af, but he was created by turned Revan, and scales similarly to Revan, after becoming Nihilus.... And thats ignoring the MASSIVE weakness that his hunger literally not only was consuming him but had consumed his body and mind.... He had echos of sentience, but more than anything and more as time went on, he was nothing but mindless hunger. Powerful, but not a winning strategy
@ShaneTaylor-hy8gf8 ай бұрын
Idk imo I don't think Vitiate could use his abilities to infiltrate Nihilus' mind. I think even if he did it would break him as he wouldn't be able to deal with Nihilus' inner mind. The hunger being mainly the only thing Nihilus can think about most times I think that unending hunger with in Nihilus' mind would send Vitiate insane and possibly turn him cabbaged lol
@vitiatet78568 ай бұрын
16:06 the old empire fall because of Naga Sadow, not Marka Ragnos. Marka Ragnos was such a G, he is one of the only Dark Lords of the Sith that dies of old age. A big flex for sith
@Kriegerthebarbarian8 ай бұрын
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@UltimateSpider13858 ай бұрын
Darth Vitiate/Emperor Valkorion is the most powerful sith in all of Star Wars. If he returned during the Clone Wars, he would plot from the shadows by exposing Palpatine as a traitor and a sith Lord to the Republic. This would lead to the Republic placing their trust into Vitiate by voting him as Supreme Chancellor. Not only that, He'll have complete control over Coruscant before he continues to resurrect the Eternal Empire from within. However, the Jedi Order will disband after they sense the power he has over the force. Which leads toEmperor Valkorion sending his assassins to hunt down the Jedi Knights one by one. As for the clone troopers, he'll have them executed as well. He'll then turn his sights on the chosen one, Anakin Skywalker despite knowing that Anakin would reach his full potential. And the weapon that Darth Vitiate will use against Anakin would be his two children, luke and leia.
@chadbrad81008 ай бұрын
I would like say Valkorian is second Sidious is by EU feats the most powerful Force-user in history. He was capable of generating Force Storms that come close to planet-busting in their power. Revan was small potatoes by comparison just in terms of raw destruction, even though his strategies were legitimately brilliant rather than being incredibly stupid and contrived (but that's more that his games were better-written than the prequels). In terms of fighting ability with just the lightsaber, Palpatine was a match for Windu, arguably the best Jedi swordsman, although Windu and Luke Skywalker were both able to narrowly defeat him, he was nevertheless effortlessly able to dismantle three Jedi Masters. It's his ability with The Force that swings it, though. He's able to tap into the life-force of whole planets to sustain himself, extend his life by transferring his consciousness via the Force to other bodies, and of course his ability to generate wormholes capable of killing the populations of entire planets. It got to a point where he became a nexus of the Dark Side of the Force, capable of damaging the fabric of spacetime with his very presence. It's his ability with The Force that swings it, though. He's able to tap into the life-force of whole planets to sustain himself, extend his life by transferring his consciousness via the Force to other bodies, and of course his ability to generate wormholes capable of killing the populations of entire planets. It got to a point where he became a nexus of the Dark Side of the Force, capable of damaging the fabric of spacetime with his very presence. Revan was exceptionally skilled in The Force and with the lightsaber, but it was his tactics and strategy which put him up in the annals of Jedi and Sith history - he was a total geniu.
@Lunzatis_Palemoon8 ай бұрын
@@chadbrad8100 Sidious isn't even close to Valkorian. Sidious is a wannabe compared to Valkorian. Valkorian did his feats and powers while his essence was divided among many other people. Sidious never even came close to pulling something like that off, much less draining an entire planet.
@ironspider238 ай бұрын
I love ❤️ this video was amazing 🤩 thanks so much for making it keep up the good work!!!!!!!!
@dadzawa_actual8 ай бұрын
Finally, a video that puts respect on his name! I honestly believe that Valkorian is the embodiment of the Son, who was secretly attempting to enter the galaxy under the the Father's nose..
@roberttrawinski64938 ай бұрын
If he performs those feats without effort i can't imagine what he could do if he putted effort in those feats
@damianplasencia27088 ай бұрын
putted?
@SlashinatorZ28 күн бұрын
Do you think he could hold his own in the One Piece world? Especially against admirals or yonkos
@dreadrath8 ай бұрын
I've always had a bit of a love-hate perspective on this particular Sith. On the one hand his story is pretty awesome; and on the other he's a big narrative part of the game that effectively ensured we'd never get KOTOR 3.
@Lunzatis_Palemoon8 ай бұрын
SWTOR isn't why we never got KOTOR 3. That was a DISNEY decision and had NOTHING to do with SWTOR. It seems you have also forgotten another extremely important reason why we never got KOTOR 3 which is because of the failure of KOTOR 2 and how incomplete that game was. KOTOR 2's failure is one of the biggest reasons why Disney decided to go with a MMO instead of making a KOTOR 3.
@Minx58928 ай бұрын
@@Lunzatis_Palemoon TOR came out in 2010, two years before Disney
@marcomcdowell88618 ай бұрын
Still don't know how Sidious is considered so powerful. He literally reaped the legwork of every Dark Jedi and Sith Lord ever, and then got chucked down a reactor shaft after a 20 year rule. Even including Legends, his feats were minimal compared to the majority of the most powerful of Dark Side Force users.
@shini19088 ай бұрын
Minimal? My dude, he propagated a galactic war that he completely controlled(he was leading both sides) which ended with the jedi order being destroyed and him ruling the galaxy. The only reason he lost is that the monster he created turned on him at a crucial moment.
@hawkeye24678 ай бұрын
@@shini1908as the guy says alot of work was done for him to even have that opportunity killed his master in his sleep. But feats do not equal power power equals power and still vitiate was involved as emperor of the sith in galactic affairs over 1000 years so honestly yeah pretty minimal
@shini19088 ай бұрын
@@hawkeye2467 and yet the guy never won, he schemed for a 1000 years and failed and even as valkorion he only had the power he had because of the eternal fleet(which is stolen tech btw) palpatin clapped the jedi and republic in less then 80 years with no immortality less force powers and less then tenth of the time it took valkorion to make 3 distinct empires(2 sith's one eternal) only for all of them to fail.
@hawkeye24678 ай бұрын
@@shini1908 I get it but palpatine reaped of the work of generations to achieve his goal also the jedis general apathy was largely at fault for his rise imo he's undoubtedly more intelligent and cunning however my statement was more on pure power itself to which palps just was not there
@tipodeincognito56608 ай бұрын
Out universe, George Lucas said it, and he's the creator of all this. In uniserse, he's the final sith of the rule of two era, that started very strong with Bane, and was desingned to just go up more and more.
@ZenRyoku8 ай бұрын
unquestionably the most powerful sith to ever exist....regardless of legends or canon continuity...💯
@AmyFlannigan278 ай бұрын
Valkorion himself said time has not stopped. It was within the mind of the Outlander. And wasn't it said his force lightning was black?
@Toumahitoedits8 ай бұрын
Palpatine: Mastered all 7 Lightsaber Forms, Ended Jedi Dominance through Order 66. Dies by his own lightning twice. Valkorion: Becomes a Sith God via Nathema Ritual and ruled for 1,500 years. Dies by power of friendship(I meant trapping his essence in Satele Shan, then getting destroyed completely by all the Jedi and Sith he wronged.)
@Lunzatis_Palemoon8 ай бұрын
In other words, Palpatine dies like a bitch while it takes a combination of Jedi and Sith working together just to defeat Valkorion.
@dotdot25603 ай бұрын
Dont forget the force itself helped
@goddessomai91778 ай бұрын
The beautiful part of this is simply he may still be there waiting and watching for his next rise to power.
@robertagu55338 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed in Rise that Force Lightning Storm... Palpatine's Clone didn't really do much with it... he may have disabled or shot down some but once that had stopped he had basically done little more then slow them down an even sorta regroup them
@Vakaria-plays8 ай бұрын
Most funny thing is that that storm isnt even that impressive compared to the old Sith, Marka Ragnos could cover an entire planet in a lightning storm. Same with Naga Sadow.
@robertagu55338 ай бұрын
@@Vakaria-plays true enough BUT those were the "Ancient" class Sith, most of them, an it's widely believed they COULD do that though... Putting even most of what the Bane era Sith. Even likes of Palpatine could do to shame or at least give him a run for his money
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
@@Vakaria-plays+ As much as I LOVE Ragnos, when was it ever shown that he could cover an entire planet in a lightning storm (let alone Naga Sadow who was weaker than Ragnos).
@patrickday18167 ай бұрын
I heard Darth Tremelo was the king of rock and roll. His power over the axe was so complete, his subjects addressed him as rock God.
@sterlingarcher56988 ай бұрын
I quit SWTOR before Vitiate saga started but damn, sounds great. Would love to see this adapted live action/expanded. Fractured Empire. Sith Empire with multiple Emperors, each a fragment of this Sith Lord and each a twisted but unique reflection of one of the hosts vices, empowering them. E.g. Malgus' self loathing, Nilhilus' greed, Sion's sadism/masochism etc.
@Colicab837 ай бұрын
I go back to swtor every couple of years. I play the storyline for a few months, then shut it down and park for another couple years. It's a pretty awesome storyline. I suggest you play it!
@SuperGothDog4 ай бұрын
That was awesome man
@shaheedkhanmuhammad95978 ай бұрын
Good stuff, I always wondered his Background story
@jayrenteria6057 ай бұрын
HOLY CRAP, THIS GUY'S OVER POWERED as f****! 🤯
@JamesMC044 ай бұрын
If there were a film that included the line "Somehow, Vitiate returned" after he had been thrown down a shaft, I would have no trouble believing that. Vitiate is so strong & so full of life, that it would make perfect sense for him to return; all the more so, as he had knowledge of the future.
@HellionSol8 ай бұрын
I would love a comprehensive video on Darth Krayt. Another man who lived many lives so to speak. Extremely powerful and interesting character
@davidjacobs74658 ай бұрын
I guess we see as how older the sith the stronger the sith was. So among the most powerful would probably be Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Tulak Hord...
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
You seem to forget that a lot of the Ancient Sith's power was based on complex rituals and artifacts that enhanced their powers through sorcery. Thr Banite line of Sith were generally more focussed on their personal power. Tulak Hord's claim to fame was his lightsaber skill but even that has context since he was often duelling against Sith Force Blade purists who were largely unfamiliar with lightsabers. Sure he was a power house with the Force too but I've seen little to suggest he was on the level of the most powerful force users.
@Lobsterwithinternet2 ай бұрын
@@justinanderson2460Only because we really don't have much material about the Banite Sith in canon or even in legends.
@kingshadow87828 ай бұрын
Happy Sunday everyone!
@Sci-Fi-Mike8 ай бұрын
Happy Sunday!
@Wokedestroyinglives8 ай бұрын
🎉
@rrose91618 ай бұрын
Just at the 10:00 mark in the video and valkorian has definitely earned the title of godhood with his feats so far ( I actually didn't know any of this and I had still come up with similar abilities for a theoretical self insert of myself into starwars so yeah OP as shit)
@drkushajagadeesh63478 ай бұрын
Daaaaamn, okay, you've convinced me. Vitiate's powers far outstrips Sidious'! 9:08 Also, was that a jab at those "would a Sith lord win against Batman" comments?? 😂
@tandava-0898 ай бұрын
PREACH! ✊
@starwarsbrainbusters55878 ай бұрын
Amazing vid, please do a breakdown of Yodas power and Krayts
@1qplayer6268 ай бұрын
That would be awesome. This vid is cool ❤
@x102reddragon8 ай бұрын
Would have love to see a vs video between Vitiate and EU Grandmaster Luke Skywalker. Two mighty titans throwing down. And honestly probably very close in power to each other.
@Kenibus8 ай бұрын
I wish there was more lore around Vaylin. She was just batshit insane
@raulaguirre8838 ай бұрын
It is important to note that the ritual of Nathema was aided by one of the Iokath Machine Gods, Zildrog which was a superweapon he used to kill those on Nathema and absorb their essence which allowed him to achieve immortality to begin with.
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
Most of Vitiate's vest fears weren't just him. They often requited long, convoluted rituals with loads of prep, artifacts or devices that amplified or enhanced power and/or outside help/power from others to accomish. It's one of the contextual reasons why Vitiate is NOT in fact, more powerful than Sidious.
@Lunzatis_Palemoon8 ай бұрын
@@justinanderson2460 LMFAO. Yes, Vitiate was absolutely more powerful than Sidious. Just because Vitiate was smart enough to take advantage of and drain other people of their powers to enhance his own doesn't make him weaker. Vitiate was far more powerful and far smarter than Palpatine could ever hope to be. Palpatine was a weak bitch that got lucky because the Jedi and Republic had become complacent.
@xeronix97748 ай бұрын
great video👏🏾
@OneHandMoneyMan6 ай бұрын
The one and only, thank you SWTOR and Mr. Wave of course
@1qplayer6268 ай бұрын
Do a video on arcann and his powers next. Great vid ❤❤❤
@russeldark26008 ай бұрын
Great video!
@FordLancer8 ай бұрын
Vitiate was named his Sith Lord name and title by Ragnos. He was not named Darth because during Ragnos’ reign he did not want the competitions that came with it. Lords can only be appointed by a lord while the title of Darth can be taken by their apprentices. Vitiate wanted this in his empire because it would distract his followers from working together to overthrow him.
@Vakaria-plays8 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? During his regin there are plenty of Darths alongside the Lords, so if that was Vitiates plan he somehow screwed up big time cause the entire dark council can only hold a seat if they have the title of Darth, but there was also many Sith who had the title of Darth but wasnt a member of the Dark council.
@darthmephisto46256 ай бұрын
He is the base of my philosophy on the Force and is my favorite force welder in the whole universe.
@alwayssleepy_10138 ай бұрын
One of my favorites
@TheGuardianofAzarath8 ай бұрын
I'm honestly curious to see how Vitiate would fair against Abaloth.
@DaG.O.A.T.8 ай бұрын
He would die. Abeloth is a chaos goddess
@kurtpunchesthings24118 ай бұрын
@@DaG.O.A.T. yea people seem to forget it took the combined power of The Father The Son and The Daughter to banish her and even then they couldn't kill her
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
He'd get obliterated with 0 effort.
@Valkyraw8 ай бұрын
He doesn't need to face her directly. If he had finished his galaxy wide ritual she wouldn't exist anymore anyways. Remember his quote: "I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars"
@paulharmon89478 ай бұрын
Any of the ancient Sith were far more powerful than Sidious. That's why the ancient Sith in their immortality couldn't stand Sidious. Sidious rejected the ancient ways of the dark side which made him weaker.
@TheSatanicBachelor8 ай бұрын
Bullshit, Sidious surpassed them all after becoming emperor.
@lemonboychris8 ай бұрын
@@TheSatanicBachelor Marka Ragnos, Darth Bane, Darth Nihilus, Vitiate/Tenebrae/Valkorion, excluding the Sith gods who are on Abeloth's tier and higher there are a bunch of Sith who stomp Sidious.
@TheSatanicBachelor8 ай бұрын
@@lemonboychris Sidious used telepathy and force dominate mind combine to control the crownies of the empire from his palace while studying the dark side where he learned all the powers the ancient Sith mastered. He even discovered new powers such as force storms that could annihilate a planet.
@paulharmon89478 ай бұрын
@@TheSatanicBachelor here's why you are in the wrong.... The ancient Sith hated Sidious for a number of valid factual reasons. One big one was how Sidious was obsessed and far too close to the Jedi. Even in "Revenge of the Sith" Sidious made the comment to Vader that they needed "to move quickly" because the Jedi would "butcher them like cattle" if they had found out what they did and were planning to do. Sidious was weak to admit that. The ancient Sith were very different. They stayed away from the Jedi because they knew that would make them weaker in the dark side. It was a needless distraction. The potency of the dark side was at its greatest with the ancient Sith. They had dark side sciences and magics that far surpassed the a-typical technologies. They had weapons and icons that were cursed with the dark side that would render a wounded enemy incurable. My favorite were Sith war blades. That's why the ancient Sith didn't like lightsabers and saw them as weaker weapons. Some rode dragons that were cursed by the dark side and it was effortless for them to kill Jedi. They led entire armies of Sith warriors into battle. The ancient Sith would also become immortal in the force after death. That's why they laughed at Sidious because of essence transfer. Take, for example, Darth Malgus in the Old Republic. Despite having cybernetic attachments he could still use dark side lightning because of the Sith magics and alchemy of the time. And Vader? Nope. Even around the time of "A New Hope" Sidious actually went to the Sith home world of Korriban and attempted to make demands on them. They laughed at him and beat him within an inch of his life. He had no chance. They viewed the "Rule of Two" as a weak mockery of what they were supposed to be as an empire. They rightfully viewed Sidious and Vader as a bunch of cry baby noobs. Fact. Your argument is invalid.
@TheSatanicBachelor8 ай бұрын
The rule of 2 was genius. The ancient Sith Lords failed to wipe out the Jedi and take over the galaxy, and one of the reasons for that is that they betrayed each others which ultimate lead to their defeats. Sidious did where they all failed and after becoming Emperor he drained the life essence of billions if not trillions to increase his powers. He was able to consume a planet such as Byss without any use of complex ritual. He was literally a black hole in the force. Sidious's high force sensitivity combined with his genius level of intellect allowed him to learn all force powers and powers in the dark side there was known and use them in the most cunning way to take over the galaxy and rule it for 20 years, and if his clone bodies were not destroyed he would have lived forever in oppose to Vitiate who was in constant danger of ending in Chaos (which he eventually did).
@OrangeHatReviews8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this objective look at my favorite character in all of Star Wars.
@ChristianGibbons7778 ай бұрын
Force Time Restraint is a pretty potent force ability.
@mdrake367 ай бұрын
Thank you for you videos
@souldragin54978 ай бұрын
Sidious: I am the Senate Viet: i am the Empire
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
Sidious post Clone Wars: I am the Empire. What's your point?
@Lobsterwithinternet4 ай бұрын
@@justinanderson2460Vitiate: Empire? Why would I waste time with that when I can be a god?
@jarikandrews7958 ай бұрын
It’s about time y’all gave Valky his due.
@michaelarrington988Ай бұрын
He's definitely a way way cooler sith than Sidious .
@danielsmith2258 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a sick ,star wars lore accurate, holocron opening intro for these videos. Really enjoyed this one.
@Datboi-h1r8 ай бұрын
Do a video going over every force ability ever from legends and cannon
@redjirachi18 ай бұрын
Sheev: I'm not the most powerful dark sider Tenebrae: No I'm the most most powerful dark sider The Son: They're cute when they argue Abeloth: I know
@Cryax224 күн бұрын
The Son and Abeloth when they see Echoes of Oblivion Tenebrae: "Uh oh..."
@MichaelDerouse8 ай бұрын
I loved using Dominate Mind when playing KOTOR 2 The Sith Lords.
@tritan39008 ай бұрын
Cool
@Gor858 ай бұрын
We can't imagine this. No one can. This is incredible! This is amazing! We can't believe this. Anakin could have achieve Valkorian. Tell us more about Force abilities. May the Force be with you too😊
@xeronix97748 ай бұрын
finally someone understands the true scope of the immortal emperor's power
@Valkyraw8 ай бұрын
Its funny that people say Sidious is stronger than Vitiate, but Sidious wasnt even able to give Anakin what he seeked the most. Saving Padme from Death. But Vitiate knew the secret. Vitiate was able to boost others strength, health and even share the immortality he has obtained (even though it comes with a huge cost). Vitiate could have made Padme immortal just like he shared it with Lord Scourge. The best way to describe Vitiate and why he is this strong is one of his own quotes: "A man can have anything if he is willing to sacrifice". He sacrificed Nathema to gain immortality and he was about to sacrifice the entire galaxy to become a god.
@stubbornspaceman72018 ай бұрын
The fact that people are willing to ignore some of the things Lucas says but when it comes to how strong Sidious is they treat it as gospel.
@antoniusfudgepacker43188 ай бұрын
So Vitiate D riders are just resorting to straight up lies now? Sidious literally studied midichlorian resurrection with Plagueis (which has basically no downsides and is much more refined than Vitiate). Ofc he knew how to save Padme, why would he though? Padme would never accept the Empire and Anakin would not become truly powerful in the darkside without the pain and despair of Padme's death.
@stubbornspaceman72018 ай бұрын
@@antoniusfudgepacker4318 Big talk for a Palpy D rider
@stubbornspaceman72018 ай бұрын
@@antoniusfudgepacker4318 Big talk from a palpy D rider.
@stubbornspaceman72018 ай бұрын
@@antoniusfudgepacker4318 So the palpy d riders are resorting to insults? How completely expected.
@wedgeantillies668 ай бұрын
Vitiate s such a powerful and deadliest Sith Lord to ever had lived, that he nearly reached the level of godhood and that in order to stop him it took the alliance of the combined might of the Galaxy at large:republic and its Jedi, Sith empire and all other non alliances worlds to finally defeat and destroy him for good.
@Goldstandard_122 күн бұрын
"I AM ENDLESS!!!"
@JeremiahWiebe5 ай бұрын
I feel like he should’ve eventually been able to escape that prison on his own
@michaelingerslev42018 ай бұрын
Just great m8, atlast the truth has been reviled, Valkorian outshines evryone els, jedi and sith a like, for as u say, he had outgrown the ways of the sith and had besome a powerfull force-user
@biglawngnome8 ай бұрын
Wait wait back up. Where is the distinction drawn between Vitiate and Valkorian? Is there a point where one ends the the other begins? Is it like when Melkor become Morgoth, or did I miss something there? I'm so confused lol
@Valkyraw8 ай бұрын
He is vitiate and valkorion at the same time. Tenebrae was able to split his spirit into multiple bodies. Search for the children of the emperor for a glimpse of his power.
@robinsondermann67158 ай бұрын
Vitiate is the Person, valkorion is only a Body used by him
@robinsondermann67158 ай бұрын
@@Valkyrawvalkorion is only a Body for the mind of vitiate
@Creolelite8 ай бұрын
I always say Sidious was like a child the found his fathers blaster. He was just playing with the dark side.
@vincentmartel44428 ай бұрын
Its annoying that people fetishises the ancient sith like they were gods. It goes against sith nature that is all about strength struggle and change. They get stronger as time passes. Sidious in legends did feats that the most powerful masters of old could only dream of. Sidious at is most powerful gets dropped in the old republic, he fucks everyone.
@Lunzatis_Palemoon8 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@roberttrawinski64938 ай бұрын
I would like you to make more videos about valkorion next video who is more powerfull him or anakin
@AceMatthew254148 ай бұрын
Valkorion and it's not close...Unless you mean what if full potential Anakin, from my understanding full potential Anakin, Luke and Leia>Anyone. The Skywalkers at full potential are Gods.
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
Full potential or as we saw him. What he actually achieved couldn't hope to stand against Vitiate but at full potential Anakin would demolish Vitiate with about as much effort as you or I would brush a twig off a jacket.
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
@@AceMatthew25414+ This.
@roberttrawinski64938 ай бұрын
@@justinanderson2460 i don't agree if we were talking about using lightsaber anhe anakin kills him easly but he can't fight someone who is 1500 years old sith entity which can create real illusions of himself bend multiple wills to his mind feed of death of millions
@dawidschaffrath84268 ай бұрын
19:19 I was always wondering who is this the ultimate GOD: Valkorion, The Ones or Anakin (Son of the Force itself)?
@8_8_Purpura_Committatus_0_58 ай бұрын
19:45 As I had said i would preffered both him and ancient Sith Empires to remain unknown to the "nu canon". May the Force serve you well.
@azburn306 ай бұрын
Honestly, if he’s that powerful, I’d reckon he’s strong enough to put a mental block on his pain receptors
@solastro55958 ай бұрын
Rip legends Darth Kyrat
@cazorsgategaming18178 ай бұрын
Could this Sith Lord be the origin of the moth and legends of aboloth, just another retelling of his abilities?
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
Uhhh what? Abeloth is her own thing. We've already seen this.
@kingshadow87828 ай бұрын
Wow.
@Lintary2 ай бұрын
His main power is boredom, it just gets dull killing him over and over and over again.
@craigwilliams10737 ай бұрын
Wow!
@meowdaleekittenpaw94436 ай бұрын
Forgot to mention that valkorion had one creature he did think could stand in his way, his daughter Vaylin
@galacticfirefly8 ай бұрын
Many people forget that if he competes against anyone of the Movie trilogies he would automatically win. Nobody would be able to find Tenebrae's true body in this result it would mean that he would keep coming back no matter what you throw at him, even to the point that he can OutLive any opponent. No matter how many Force Storms Palpatine cast upon him or Luke moving a "Black Hole" at him. He would keep coming back and these people have no idea how to even send him to Oblivion forever. The Only way we could even beat the Sith Emperor is because Kira Carsen and Lord Scourge were deeply connected to him and with the help of Revan's Spirit managed to find his true body which even to this day they never even shared where it was, nobody during the Prequel, Original nor Sequel Trilogies have this connection and Revan has long become one with the Force by this Point. The Jedi are severly nerfed during the Clone Wars so that would make The Sith Emperor's job easier. The 'Chosen One' Prophecy would not apply to The Sith Emperor. Ofcourse his downfall will be PlotArmor. He is truly one of the Greatest Evils in Star Wars, Love him more then palpatine!
@danielmcphee25468 ай бұрын
Can you do a video around darth nox and emperors wrath from swtor?
@StardustMagician4208 ай бұрын
Sheesh make more thiswas different
@MichaelDerouse8 ай бұрын
They need to make a game with Valkorian in it.
@alexisyoung90648 ай бұрын
Heil his glorious majesty, out beloved immortal emperor, Valkorion!
@SurefireMa1568 ай бұрын
Let’s be honest, the swtor game creators went a little crazy with this guy. I don’t think George Lucas would co-sign this guys back story.
@sovereign-of-scars43728 ай бұрын
You're probably right but who cares. We got an insanely cool character out of it.
@ASNS117Zero8 ай бұрын
A lot of Vitiates early feats got walked back, too. This video didn't even touch on his attempt to life wipe the entire galaxy, for example.
@Youda000088 ай бұрын
I agree, i don't like this power creep in Star Wars, it kinda ruins the original movies. Next time we will get a Q-like being or what?
@Valkyraw8 ай бұрын
Power creep would be if every next sith gets stronger (thus rule of two or modern Disney star wars) However in the old republic vitiate was past and present the most powerful force user. That's not power creeping, that is good lore building.
@Youda000088 ай бұрын
@@Valkyraw It is a power creep in the story release timeline. Every next movie/game/book contains more powerful being than the previous ones in order to make them attract attention, constantly pushing the limits of what is possible and how the Force works, even if it breaks the lore. So the characters in the first movies that started it all sudenly look like a bunch of losers, and nothing makes any sense anymore.
@marcusisgod25928 ай бұрын
Sith which I think are more powerful than sidious: Marko ragnos literally the only sith respected by all sith. Vititate Darth nihilus Darth plagueis literally sidious killed him in his sleep because he feared him plus this is the same sith who learned to create and resurrect life and his greatest feat was conquering the force with darkside to weaken the jedi. Tulak hoard a sith capable of defeating armies of jedi and sith singlehandedly this during a time where jedi and sith were warriors and more powerful than high republic jedi. And lastly revan.
@christianblack40608 ай бұрын
The personification of busted!
@ecargfosreya8 ай бұрын
Personally, I find the debate as to who is the most powerful to matter far less than who was the most successful. And for me insidious takes the cake for actually have a wiped out Jedi order when it consisted 1000s and the Sith only had two. But I suppose, even that is subjective.
@marquesdabest8 ай бұрын
Bro you do realize vitiate ckupd of done the sam3 thing if he wanted
@Valkyraw8 ай бұрын
That would be if you assume vitiate wanted to destroy the jedi, which he really didn't care about. His only objective was to become immortal and a God. The sith were his pawns, a means to an end. He wanted endless conflict between the sith and the jedi so that he could use the death and destruction as fuel for his galaxy wide ritual. Basically he never wanted the sith to beat the jedi. If he wanted to he could have a long time ago. The eternal empire is proof of that. Both the sith and the jedi were defeated and subjugated in the war against the eternal empire and thus the eternal empire de facto controlled the galaxy.
@TectonicShiftLTD8 ай бұрын
Vitiate lived for over 1400 years btw,,,,
@ecargfosreya8 ай бұрын
@@TectonicShiftLTD but living a long time was never the goal of the Sith per se. It was to destroy the Jedi. And insidious did almost a perfect job of doing that. Except give Disney another decade and basically he will have only wiped out a few percent of the Jedi at this rate.
@Valkyraw8 ай бұрын
@@ecargfosreya This is also wrong. The goal to destroy the Jedi came at a later point. The Sith and the Sith ideology never had such goal. This is also why the ancient sith hated the rule of two sith, because they believed that the rule of two sith were wasting their time with the jedi.
@nearoikthadorbadwagon12248 ай бұрын
After doing some research for my myself on this Sith Emperor, I would say he is the most powerful Sith Lord to have ever lived. That could just be my opinion though. My top three mostpowerful Sith Lords are Darth Sidious, Darth Vitiate, and Darth Krayt. As an honorable mention, I would put Darth Reven and Darth Bane somewhere in between my top five most powerful Sith
@robinsondermann67158 ай бұрын
In comparison to the Sith from the old Republic Sidious IS a joke
@MaxTiolGonzalez7 күн бұрын
Bro, it is not mandatory to post bs.
@jt9981-o4n8 ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY the kind of power levels Prime Vader would be at his full potential unscathed and uninjured by his duel with Obi Wan without the life support suit
@Youda000088 ай бұрын
No way, Anakin gets totally overrated by people these days for no reason.
@mikem56476 ай бұрын
Definitely the most powerful sith 2 ever lived a planet changer, he made an eternal storm on Dromund Kaas also
@DrJohnAZoidberg8 ай бұрын
UNNNNN-LIMITED POW-WA!
@shiftteamzo99808 ай бұрын
This is why I love Star Wars, it just keeps getting deeper and more interesting as I get older 😂. (Not counting the sequels and the majority of this crap put out under Disney)
@Parents_of_Twins6 ай бұрын
I have argued for years that Vitiate was the most powerful of all the Sith. The things he did were just insane.
@dustincutshall10217 ай бұрын
I feel that Sidious may not have been the strongest with ever. But I think he had the most knowledge of the dark side.
@Mercielgo_Music8 ай бұрын
Can you do a Vide on Anakin Skywalker eyes in the Ahsoka series, people say they are red cause he has the son’s essence within him, thought i’d find a video on you touching on that thank u though may the force be with you 🖖🏼
@dangermonkey783 ай бұрын
I just want more.
@JeremiahWiebe5 ай бұрын
Without one of the Jedi that saved him and the other Sith that betrayed him
@theforcedragon37818 ай бұрын
Imagine if Palpatine was born at the same time he was and Palpatine became his apprentice and they formed a Dyad
@justinanderson24608 ай бұрын
Now THIS is something I've never seen, heard or considered before. Just the idea of it is bloody terrifying.
@theforcedragon37818 ай бұрын
@@justinanderson2460 I’m hoping someone will make it a what if. I’ve thought about making what ifs but I don’t know if I have the motivation to