Kitchen fitting basics. PART 2 Full height units. (tall units)

In this video I show how I install and fix tall kitchen carcase units that typically house kitchen appliances.

[@alandavies2971]

A very helpful video, and well presented. Thanks matee...

[@thetallcarpenter]

Cheers Alan😎Thanks for watching

[@RollCorruption]

I'm going to be having a crack at my own kitchen soon (keeping an eye on facebook marketplace as I'm broke) videos like this are priceless to me. I'd be happy if my work looks 1/4 as good as this. Between you and Mr Clevett I consistently wonder about a career change.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Roll. I'm glad my videos might help you.🤩 I understand that not everyone can afford to pay a tradesman to come in and that if you are practically minded, some of these jobs aren't as scary as they might seem. 😎 Cheers.

[@ratkinson-uk]

Good on you for calling out the gap rather than just blindly following the plan. The difference between a good tradesman and an average one.

[@thetallcarpenter]

That's right Robert. Just because I'll never use that kitchen, doesn't mean I shouldn't try and make it the best it can be.😎 Thanks for watching and your great comment.👍Cheers

[@ratkinson-uk]

Are you sure TC - I bet you guys have had at least a few cuppas in there 😋

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@ratkinson-uk NO WAY Robert. The guy who makes the tea is a right messy sod.😵 He's banned from any kitchens I work on. His little tea making station looks like a flooded landfill site🤪. Cheers.

[@Jaaammmbbbooo]

Just found your videos mate and have to say your replies to people's comments are fantastic and very responsive.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there🖐I'm still able, (just), to respond to all the great comments I get, and find them great to read🤩So thanks for your comment and for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@danthechippie4439]

Another fitter probably would have left the gap as it was (not my job) but to your credit you looked at it almost as if it was your own kitchen and suggested the replacement of those two units. Well done. Nice forward thinking with the noggins

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Dan. Whenever I'm looking to make a decision, my ultimate fall back is, what would I want if it was in my house, and 9 times out of 10 it will be the right thing to have done👊 Thanks for another great comment and for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@Blobmini]

So glad I came across your videos, I have had a change of career and I’m now designing kitchens and these videos have really helped me understand the reality of the kitchens being fitted, great work thanks a lot 👍

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Matt🖐That's great news bud🤩I'm glad you've found my videos interesting, and good luck with your new career😎Cheers Del

[@derekcraig5877]

8 minute mark, smart move with bigger unit on the 170mm gap. Soon as you said it i was plotting a tall 150mm wine rack with a 20mm fill but I liked ur idea better.

[@thetallcarpenter]

You're like me then Derek👍 Can't bear to see wasted space🤩 Thanks for watching 😎

[@marcusregan4815]

Really enjoyed these kitchen videos, thanks. Some great tips for DIYers like me re: the MDF tabs, waterproofing end panels, fridge freezer carcass, and noggins for wall units. 👌

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Marc. Its a real thrill for me that my videos might help someone. 😀 Whatever you're doing just take your time and do lots of research. 😎 Cheers.

[@Oggmiestergeneral]

Nice Video, lots of tips in there.... thanks and best wishes. Olly

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@Oggmiestergeneral Hi Olly. My pleasure, and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. 😎 Cheers.

[@Zewyz12]

Thanks for these videos! Really good advice. I’m just fitting out kitchen having done the studwork with a local builder. We also put noggins up to catch the wall units, made a big difference. Biggest issue at the moment, squaring up the tall f/f unit! You weren’t kidding lol! Keep the videos coming mate

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Wes. Sounds like you're doing great mate.🤩 You're right to persevere with getting the f/f housing spot on as it really can bite you in the backside when it comes to door and cornice lines.👍 Thanks for your comment.😎

[@Zewyz12]

@@thetallcarpenter yes i just finished a few extra hours on the kitchen tonight. The f/f unit was a right pain, I even measured diagonally and was fine. Problem was that it’s quite flimsy by nature of size and shape isn’t it, I think adjusting the legs was distorting the shape, as was opening the doors on it! Anyway, I’ve screwed it back now and have the run of base units lined up and they were much easier! Sorry to ramble, I’ll be checking out your other videos soon mate, scribing is the next thing lol!

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@Zewyz12 Sounds like your solving these little problems logically Wes.🤩 Its great to have you watching, and even better if my videos might help.😎 Cheers.

[@msdew9885]

Really useful content! As a novice, would have liked to see the end result of the repair job you did to the base of the damaged unit. Just to see whether it is worth complaining or just repairing on site.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there🖐The repair was to simply flush up the base with the side and use 50mm screws to hold it together, and also make sure the leg base was still lapping onto the side panel, as that's where the units wright bears🤞I'll definitely walk through any repairs to future damaged units👍Cheers Del

[@hi-tech55]

As you done the stud work yourself. At least you know the tall units will touch the wall all the way up. I just fitted four kitchens in a new build and the walls were about 18mm out of plumb. The end panels weren’t really wide enough to take all the gap up. Get the job right in the first instance. As you did and it makes it so much easier further down the line. Looking good though.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Jerry. Yes, so you've seen first hand the issues poor standards can cause further down the line. I suspect it is very frustrating for you to have to try and do your job when faced with these, unnecessary issues.😬 Thanks for your comment.🤩

[@jivanjohal]

Hi, great video. How do you go about fixing the tall units to the wall if they have a back panel? Great video - really helpful and shows your skills!

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Jivan. Tall units with a back fitted I would fix back to the wall on top of the unit. If the gable panel didn't line up with a stud, I would lay a piece of carcase material flat along the top at the back, fix it down to the top of the unit and then fix an secure with angle brackets at the stud location. (it won't be seen at the back edge).😎 Cheers

[@jivanjohal]

@@thetallcarpenter thank you sir.

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@jivanjohal 👍

[@rizrocky]

These videos are great Thank you. May I ask, would you install a tower end panel with the factory finish at the bottom or the top if the other side was cut?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Rizwan🖐I would always try and put the end panel factory edge on the floor to try and protect it from any moisture.👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@rizrocky]

@@thetallcarpenter Thank you. Appreciate your quick reply. Your videos have been very helpful.

[@dilligaf2386]

Morning del can I pick your brains. The wall unit hanging mechanism on the wall unit the screw that controls the hight before you hang it do you unscrew it a bit so you can ajust the hight a few mill up and a few mill down or do you leave it screwed all the way in then hung it . There's no instructions. I mean I can try both ways but I thought you would know as you've done so many😁

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi bud🖐Not all the hanging/adjusting hardware is the same, but I just make sure that the up/down adjuster is set in the middle of its range of movenent👊Hope this helps🤞Cheers Del

[@dilligaf2386]

@@thetallcarpenter perfect!!🥳 cheers Dell.

[@karl212]

Hi mate fridge freezer housings I tend to put a shelf in up right of the base it helps keep the unit square then once I am happy with it all leval and fixed back to wall I will remove it .....hope that all makes sense ...are they crown units ?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Karl🖐I do the same if I need to move them about a bit, and yes, they are from Crown👍Cheers Del

[@bigdocus]

What kind of a monkey would leave 170mm leftover on a kitchen run! But a very helpful video, thanks.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Yeah, a bit odd DD😵‍💫Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@zalkhirsan9481]

Great videos for first timer like me, can I ask the end panel next to tall unit is that flush or is it offset 20mm to accommodate door width ?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there🖐Yes, it's set out past the unit the same width of the door👍Cheers Del

[@dilligaf2386]

Great video. Tall man I've got a row of wall and base units, on the end is a ladder unit. They say start in the corner so if i follow the plan from wren the measurements for wall and base units by the time i get to my ladder uint the last wall unit and last base unit should be plumb ready for side decor panle and ladder unit, is this correct tall man. Or should i start from the end ladder until because there is a intentional gap for base and wall units in the corner so they could end up being a mill or two different from plans any thoughts from a pro would be grateful tall man.

[@thetallcarpenter]

I like to work out from the corner. Once my corner base unit is in position, I will mark a plumb line up the wall to wall unit level, and measure back to the corner to make sure the wall corner unit will fit👍However, if as you say, the Wren kitchen has corner posts that can be adjusted, then start with the end larder unit if it makes it easier for you👊Cheers Del

[@dilligaf2386]

@@thetallcarpenter as you say I'm checking and double checking every measurement thanx del for getting back so quick.

[@cadjet37]

Obviously you have the benefit of nice vertical walls. Have you got any tips for when the walls are not?

[@thetallcarpenter]

You can usually scribe the side panels back to an out of plumb wall a little, but if its really bad, you'll need to pack them off either at the top or at the bottom👍Cheers Del

[@ChristopherClaudioSkierka]

Hi there, good video, never knew what noggins were until now. Those units you used - what make are they? I was thinking of buying from b and q but its chipwood those are mdf you have.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Christopher🖐 These units are made from 18mm High grade chipboard, and it's only some of the decorative panels that are made from MDF👍The units are custom made to order by a company in Leicester I think👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@stephenlowes2866]

Hello - just installing a Lamona Warming Drawer and Single Oven on top into a appliance housing but I’m unclear about whether I should put something between the two to separate them ? ....or does the oven sit directly on top of the warming drawer? Any help much appreciated. Stephen

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Stephen🖐I'm not 100% sure bud, and sometimes these are mounted on angled rails between the two appliances🤔I'm sure the manufacturer or kitchen supplier would have that information👍Sorry I can't be more help😬Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@gz4wyr]

Hello, About the cracking of the base plate, is there any particular reason for screwing the base between the sides? I see this technique on many big furniture manufacturers, but I cannot find a logical reason for it. I work as a semi-professional custom furniture builder in eastern Europe, and I always put the sides on the base, as the weight is better distributed and the overall strength of the cabinet is better. I only use the base between the sides on the upper cabinets.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Dan. I can only imaging that it is done like this as not all kitchens have decorative end panels, so bringing the top and bottoms through, you would see them🤔 Good point in your comment though, as the way you describe is very strong💪 Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@curiousjoe395]

Is it ever a good idea to cut back the uprights when they are in the path of the plinth? I was thinking that it would then allow you to have one continuous plinth

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Asad🖐I don't think there is a right or wrong, and many times, it cones down to customer preferance👍Cheers Del

[@stevenpoole7983]

I’m currently in the process of fitting my first utility room. I’ve ordered a tall housing unit to stack my washer and dryer. 2 kitchen companies I got quote from both mentioned an additional 100mm void behind the units, they also said because of this I would have to use a 700mm work top rather then 600mm. I have spoken to a few friends who are builders an they said it should be fine with the 55mm void already in the units. What would you advise? Cheers

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Steven. I think you just need to see what size your appliances are first. Even if you need to have deeper units to accommodate plumbing and ventilation of the machines, these units can just stand proud of the worktop line👍Cheers Del

[@robroy488]

Slightly unrelated but how tall are you mate? I ask because im a kitchen fitter and am 6'4. It comes in handy for a lot of jobs in my opinion!

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there🖐I'm just under 6'6" tall👍(about 1/4" under😎). Cheers Del

[@LunasDragons9745]

Hi, is that fridge freezer pushed all the way to the wall or do you lave a gap

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there🖐If you mean is it pusher right to the wall at the back of the unit, then no, it isn't, and there is usually a 10/15mm gap between the wall and the fridges cooling grill👍Cheers Del

[@LunasDragons9745]

Thanks for the replay, I’m going to have 10mm between back of the fridge and the wall so should be enough

[@barcusful]

WHICH SCREWS DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR CHIPBOARD CARCASSES?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there🖐I use 3.5mm x 30mm screws👍Cheers Del

[@cadjet37]

Where are the kitchen units from? Do you use Howdens?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Andrew🖐This is a Crown kitchen, and I don't use Howdens kitchens if I can help it👍Cheers Del

[@barrieheard9426]

I am fitting a kitchen got a problem don't know what to do. I have fitted many kitchens before. Got a tower unit hard up in corner of room. Wall is out 15mm so got 15mm of gap at bottom and 0mm at top. Got end panel to go on side. But using plinth instead as saves money. Can't move unit over to make bigger gap. If I put scribe a piece in what I normally do is best way. This scribe to small will just end up breaking up cutting it or fitting only chipboard. To big for caulking it but think is only way 🤔. What would you do room is finished customer don't want wall skimmed.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Barrie🖐That's not a great situation to get over, but I think I would probably cut a scribe 15mm to nothing out of MDF, fit it a couple of mm back from the carcass, caulk it to the wall and and paint it in with the rest of the kitchen walls👍Hope this helps👊Cheers Del

[@barrieheard9426]

Thanks del 👍

[@Tez73]

Didn’t know they did a 450 unit . Is it a howdens Kitchen ?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Terry. Its a Crown kitchen.👍I've been fitting 450 units for a while now, but that could just be the suppliers we use.😎 Cheers.

[@hi-tech55]

Yeah they do seem more readily available now then they used to.

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@hi-tech55 👍

[@davidlucas442]

Could of put a wine rack ans towel rail in that space...unless already alowed for

[@thetallcarpenter]

Sure could have done David👍and it's been done before👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

[@davidlucas442]

@@thetallcarpenter know probs Del ....

[@amazing451]

How come there did not appear to be an end panel between the first 2 tall units. You ain't have right when you say that kitchens can be a right pain when not planned right, the last one I fitted the room had been measured before being plastered, I ended cutting the L shaped corner piece down and joining together again with the track saw to please the foreman.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi Kevin. The kitchen was designed with only one panel on the end of the tall unit run👊 As you rightly explained, the corner post, (if the corner is made up of 2 units), is a great place to steel a few millimetres if you need to😎 Did the foreman even know you sorted it?😆 Cheers.

[@amazing451]

Yes nothing fitted right on that kichen but in the end it did not look to bad, but took a lot longer to do, but thats some buiding companies now a days.@@thetallcarpenter

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@amazing451 I hear you bud😫 Cheers

[@007issyable]

Which area do you work in please?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there. Cambridge. (ish). 👍

[@garvielloken3929]

how many guys would have just said, it aint my house and left the gap

[@thetallcarpenter]

Most Garviel.😬 Cheers

[@karlshomeremodeling123]

Why not return the unit for a new one?

[@thetallcarpenter]

Hi there. I could have demanded a new one, but it would of meant I wouldn't have been able to continue to get the unit installed and then fit the fridge freezer. Making a quick repair just meant I could crack on.💪 Cheers.

[@karlshomeremodeling123]

@@thetallcarpenter hey thanks for the info. I understand the dilemma and have been there before. Good job

[@thetallcarpenter]

@@karlshomeremodeling123 No sweat. 😎 Thanks for watching and subscribing. 🤩 Cheers.

[@bmulli12]

Never put a cut edge to the floor

[@thetallcarpenter]

It's sometimes unavoidable unfortunately, as long as it got some protection on the edge it will be fine👍Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del