Carl Gustaf: Recoilless Rifle | Anti-Tank Chats

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@thetankmuseum
@thetankmuseum Жыл бұрын
Hi Tank Nuts, we hope you enjoyed this episode of Anti-Tank Chats. Let us know what you think in the comments below.
@grindelston5968
@grindelston5968 Жыл бұрын
Ignoring the haha comments below, why *does* the loader put his head to it as if he is aiming as well? Is it simply to make sure he is in a safe position away from the back blast or is there a really obvious thing that I'm going to feel daft for missing?
@RJM1011
@RJM1011 Жыл бұрын
Yes that was good to see and learn from thank you.
@thunder2434
@thunder2434 Жыл бұрын
@@grindelston5968 To escape the blast at the back. The body contact informs the firer his buddys head and body is in a safe space. Military doctrine on exactly how the contact is made has varied over the years, and between militaries in various nations using the Gustav. A pat on the shoulder or back was used in Sweden when I served, then it changed to this as it ensures even more safety. How it has to be used in the heat of battle may differ.
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 Жыл бұрын
If I call myself a museum can I own gear like this as well;). I had to lug one of the full metal versions in the Canadian Forces for over a year and only got one shot. Sadly missed;(.
@greengronirandom
@greengronirandom Жыл бұрын
Your Swedish pronounciations are really bad, can you add a line of subtitles for when you do foreign names and words? Otherwise the video is fantastic, I really enjoyed it.
@BashoftheMonth
@BashoftheMonth Жыл бұрын
The real secret to it's effectiveness is the pre-firing side hug issued by the loader.
@nathanielwowchuk6880
@nathanielwowchuk6880 Жыл бұрын
The loader: *hug* "You're gunna do great"
@bamman999
@bamman999 Жыл бұрын
It’s okay if you miss, it’s about taking part that counts. We will have another hug and try again. Now obliterate that tank.
@RadeonX0X
@RadeonX0X Жыл бұрын
The positive psychological effect of the side-hug is immense.
@timothyhouse1622
@timothyhouse1622 Жыл бұрын
"You smell good."
@letmeeatcake7836
@letmeeatcake7836 Жыл бұрын
Moral is key
@johanbergqvist3939
@johanbergqvist3939 Жыл бұрын
We were learned (Swedish infantry in mid 80's) that the GRG (GRANATGEVÄR) aka. Carl Gustav will continue to be operated until there are no one left in the platoon. Most important weapon for us. Great fun to fire, but a beast to carry.
@concinnus
@concinnus Жыл бұрын
Well luckily for the new guys, the M4 is only half the weight of the M2 you had.
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 Жыл бұрын
I had someone argue you needed two guys to load this but, using inert rounds, I showed that you could do it by yourself. It was weird working the locking levers backwards though and it would have given a safety officer a heart attack if I'd done it on a range;).
@julianscaeva4334
@julianscaeva4334 Жыл бұрын
@@concinnus Don't worry about it, they made up for the difference with other stuff to carry ;)
@azynkron
@azynkron Жыл бұрын
It was a pig, yes. That and the FN MAG. However, I wouldn't have gone into battle without neither of them.
@no1DdC
@no1DdC Жыл бұрын
​@@silverjohn6037 Was your firing rate any worse than compared to two operators?
@bjornh4664
@bjornh4664 Жыл бұрын
My training officer in the Swedish army had participated in one of the submarine hunts in the early 1980s. He was posted on a small island in the southeastern archipleago, equipped with a Carl Gustaf, when he saw the conning tower of a submarine break the surface. He had received any ammo yet, and could just watch in frustration when it disappeared. Later, he got some HEAT rounds, and had to be dragged off the island when the hunt was called off. He really wanted to kill a Soviet sub with his Carl Gustaf!
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 Жыл бұрын
This was back in the 1970's and a Canadian destroyer was being sunk off the coast of British Columbia to make an artificial reef. The navy decided to let the army take some pot shots at it with their infantry support weapons but they didn't expect them to do much damage as they had some divers on standby with explosives. It was apparently a surprise for them as the Carl G did enough damage to start it sinking slowly. But then they brought in one of the old 106 mm recoilless rifles and a few shots and a few minutes later the destroyer was under the waves.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen Жыл бұрын
If that guy had sent a Soviet sub to the bottom with Carl G he would have been eligible for free beer no matter which military "watering hole" he went to for the rest of his life.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen Жыл бұрын
@@bikenavbm1229 Stop being an idiot. Russia routinely violated our national borders, up until the collapse of the Soviet union, and they categorically denied it, even when presented with bloody photos/radar readouts/sonic detections/whatever of the vessels entire journey from start to finish.
@Bald_Zeus
@Bald_Zeus Жыл бұрын
​@@bikenavbm1229ost certainly was. The Soviets (and the RuZZians now aswell) didn't respect our borders at all. The whisky on the rocks incident is clear proof of that
@yfelwulf
@yfelwulf Жыл бұрын
News 🤡 the Conning tower is EMPTY and not water tight like your head
@Lord.Kiltridge
@Lord.Kiltridge Жыл бұрын
I trained on the Carl G in the Canadian Army way back in 1982. I think there is the potential for a misunderstanding in this video. As is the case with all shaped charges, penetration is unaffected by range. However as it is a relatively slow projectile, reduced engagement ranges for moving targets is advised for reasons of accuracy.
@danielmartini3229
@danielmartini3229 Жыл бұрын
good points!
@azynkron
@azynkron Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Against a moving target, as far as I recall, we never fired beyond 300m. In anger of course that could have changed, but in training, no.
@Suppagappa
@Suppagappa Жыл бұрын
If anything, wouldn’t it (the penetration) get *better* with range as the spin slowly reduces? (minimally, of course, but still present)
@Lord.Kiltridge
@Lord.Kiltridge Жыл бұрын
@@Suppagappa No. The engagement range is much to short.
@Suppagappa
@Suppagappa Жыл бұрын
@@Lord.Kiltridge …Please explain.
@John_Mack
@John_Mack Жыл бұрын
I was able to get qualified on this weapon while in the Canadian Forces in the 80's. It was a "blast".
@Revener666
@Revener666 Жыл бұрын
qualified? In the swedish homeguard everyone get to train on it.
@VikingTeddy
@VikingTeddy Жыл бұрын
When it was time for my service in Finland, I wasn't quite mature enough and couldn't handle it. I kept putting it off out of laziness until life happened and I wasn't eligible anymore. Which sucks because I was supposed to be an Anti-Tank trooper, which was my second wish after Tanker. Missed my opportunity to play with the CG (and humping 40kg worth of AT mines).
@McTeerZor
@McTeerZor Жыл бұрын
​@@Revener666If infantry in Canada, then yes more then likely you will receive training with Carl. If your combat arms i.e. armour, artillery, engineers etc. You might have a chance to train with the weapon system, but its not guaranteed when, or even if.
@billrosmus6734
@billrosmus6734 Жыл бұрын
@@Revener666 As far as I recall, all Canadian infantry were trained on it and had to fire it regularly to ensure we were practiced. I certainly fired it on a number of occasions. People around the Carly G or just Carl G (what we called it) would be brutalized a bit. For the number one (the one aiming and firing), it wasn't bad. The number two, and anyone within 10 to 20 metres got a beating. I saw guys get bleeding noses and one guy had the crystal on his watch pop off from the pressure wave. I think in some places you are only allowed so many peacetime rounds per year because of possible head trauma from the overpressure. But they sure work golden.
@michaelnorling5062
@michaelnorling5062 Жыл бұрын
​@billrosmus6734 You only get affected from the blast if you're in the forbidden sector. Otherwise, near the weapon, you'll only get minor pressure "sensations"
@azynkron
@azynkron Жыл бұрын
You have to be next to one yourself to truly understand how violent the firing of this weapon is. When you pull the trigger you can feel the air being sucked away. We had a firing drill and the instructor didn't feel like going through returning the spare rounds that we hadn't used so he told us to shoot as many as we wanted. I fired some 8 in rapid succession after which I got a nose bleed. They are better today, but the main draw back was the weight.
@bjrnarestlen1234
@bjrnarestlen1234 Жыл бұрын
I remember being a loader under similar circumstances, and we attempted a 6 rounds in one minute-thing, using live rounds. We had drilled on this with empty shells in the barracks, but I can attest to that you're quite dizzy after that 6 rounds in one minute! Once, the filter on my gasmask was torn off the gasmask, when being loader :D
@benktlofgren4710
@benktlofgren4710 Жыл бұрын
haha yes if you got a cold the snot would squirt out of your nose 😂 I remember one particularly painful moment firing. I had not noticed that my right ear plug had dropped out and was loose inside the ear muffs. That pain and shock were the worst I experienced in my entire 40+ year life, was just rolling around on the ground screaming in panic. Amazingly and by pure luck it did not or has not at least so far affected my hearing in any way.
@elguapo1507
@elguapo1507 Жыл бұрын
😂😂I remember that feeling too! There was almost a vacuum between the venturi and the business end! I'm sure that's why I've got no hair now! 😂😂
@Tompii
@Tompii Жыл бұрын
I've read/heard somewhere there is a maximum of 6 live rounds fired per day for operator/loader in Sweden when not in War time. To minimize risks for internal/brain damage due to the shockwave.. I have a buddy who was operating one of these in the late 90's and reading upon the operator damages, it kinda explains how he is such wildfire..
@elguapo1507
@elguapo1507 Жыл бұрын
@@Tompii It wasn't the case in the British army. As a weapons instructor I would spend a whole day on the range as either No 1, No 2 on the Charlie G or safety supervisor. As safety supervisor you stood between the business end and the venturi, facing opposite to the No2...it was like having your pants being ripped off every time they fired not to mention the constant ringing in the ears for hours afterwards sometimes! 😂😂
@PatGilliland
@PatGilliland Жыл бұрын
Carried one of these as a reservist in the 80`s. The experience of firing it cannot be described politely.
@jimboAndersenReviews
@jimboAndersenReviews Жыл бұрын
I still have ringing in my right ear, from pressing the trigger enough times. That thing brings the noise of thunder.
@TheGM-20XX
@TheGM-20XX Жыл бұрын
could it be described crudely?
@Canofasahi
@Canofasahi Жыл бұрын
@@TheGM-20XX F*ck!ng loud. I know because I had one and fired it during my time in the Dutch army, 1987-1988.
@FrancSchiphorst
@FrancSchiphorst Жыл бұрын
@@TheGM-20XXEver had your eyes pressed into their sockets? :) Being INSIDE an explosion is sort of describing it.
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGM-20XX After firing your balls would still be swinging from side to side for a week afterwards from the shock...
@6mojo
@6mojo Жыл бұрын
I was trained on this when I joined the Royal Marines back in 1964! LOTS of fun seeing how accurate it was/is still to this day..
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 Жыл бұрын
I never marveled at the sheer destructive effectiveness of a weapon until I was trained on the gustav. In the hands of an experienced crew, it is the most lethal thing on the battlefield.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen Жыл бұрын
As a 155mm artilleryman I beg to differ. But I also understand that we can't serve everyone instantly all the time, so if "hell from above" is not available as fast as the infantry would ideally prefer someone has to fill the need. And that someone is, as we call it in the Danish army, The Swedish King.
@davidwass8366
@davidwass8366 Жыл бұрын
Career prospects in a mech inf role gona be short going up against a few of those in a defensive line.
@yfelwulf
@yfelwulf Жыл бұрын
Try Russian ATK weapons this is a Toy in comparison. Kornet the world's most powerful not only a shaped charge a Thermobaric chaser NOTHING SURVIVES.
@chadclay1643
@chadclay1643 Жыл бұрын
There’s 150 burnt out pieces of armour in and around rabotino, maybe it’s the rpg 30 that should be getting praised
@axebearer
@axebearer Жыл бұрын
@@yfelwulf Keep huffing that copium.
@HorstMichel-mh7gv
@HorstMichel-mh7gv Жыл бұрын
The marvel of this tool is that it was on its way to becoming obsolete. In the last decade, it made its way back, and now it is in high demand.
@Jreb1865
@Jreb1865 Жыл бұрын
It was never obsolete with US Spec Ops...lol
@MelioraCogito
@MelioraCogito Жыл бұрын
@@Jreb1865 Considering you Americans never adopted the thing until 1989, I'd argue otherwise. As a Canadian infanteer, I was trained on the M2 ‘Carl G’ in 1978 (it had already been in Canadian service for about 15-years), along with the M40 106RR and TOW. In Germany, we had a Carl G in every rifle-section (‘squad’ to you) M113. Back home in Canada, there would be only one (1) per platoon (platoon support weapons section), with at least 1/2-dozen in the battalion anti-tank platoon. I've carried it through thick mud and waist deep snow, over the mountainous terrain of Vancouver Island (and Bavaria) and the (relatively) flat prairie landscape BATUS and Wainwright, Alta. When fired, it delivers one hell of a kick to the head if you're not prepared for it (unlike the 106, which, despite being a larger 105 mm round that is almost as long as the Carl G itself, has a slower burning propellant).
@Jreb1865
@Jreb1865 Жыл бұрын
@@MelioraCogito And I'd opine that you are clueless in understanding what my comment was even referring to. Some components of U.S. spec op forces are quite fond of it, and still use it. You are proving you were never prepared for that kick to the head...
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 Жыл бұрын
Could turn into the M2 Browning for AT (yes I know the .50 was originally supposed to be AT but I'm referring to longevity of service;).
@MelioraCogito
@MelioraCogito Жыл бұрын
@@Jreb1865 Give yourself a thumbs up there more-on. My point was merely, we Canadians had been using the Carl G for almost 25-years, before your “special” op artists thought it was a worthy tool. Fun fact: _54% of American adults possess the literacy skills of 6th-graders (juvenile prepubescent 11-year-olds)._ (Source: 2020 US Dept. of _‘Edu-muh-cation’_ report.)
@jerry2357
@jerry2357 Жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that you didn't mention that a Carl Gustav, operated by a small group of Royal Marine Commandos, severely damaged the Argentinian corvette ARA Guerrico, during the invasion of South Georgia at the start of the Falklands war. There can't be many infantry anti-tank weapons that have severely damaged a warship.
@yellowprime8491
@yellowprime8491 Жыл бұрын
"Opening fire on the ship, the Royal Marines riddled the bridge with gunfire and killed a sailor trying to get the 40 mm back into action. They also hit the vessel with a LAW and two Carl Gustav rounds for good measure, inflicting more damage and knocking out the ships Exocet anti-ship missiles. Additionally, a Royal Marine sergeant armed with an L42 sniper rifle kept up accurate fire on the bridge which forced the crew there into cover as they attempted to extricate the corvette from the fight." From the Military Matters article
@pvtj0cker
@pvtj0cker Жыл бұрын
English lads: "Oi! If it can bloody punch through a tank, then it makes sense that it would punch through a ship, too. Innit?"
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare Жыл бұрын
I can imagine Argentina's ships were much more well maintained than what Russians currently have.
@samwhite7197
@samwhite7197 Жыл бұрын
That's the bit of it's history i'm thinking about. If i remember rightly, one of the Carl Gustaf rounds fell just short but with it's speed, bounced on and found its mark. Barnes Wallace would have been proud. Separately, despite the casualties the Royal Marine detachment had inflicted on the Argentine forces at South Georgia, the Argentinians accepted the timely surrender of the Royal Marine detachment, held them and then later released them unharmed.
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog Жыл бұрын
The Brit soldier has a penchant for instant ingenuity against odds that is seldom matched. Mind you, I am an Argie. But you gotta give them that. Some solutions they've come up with are, indeed, "very british". Cheers.
@nobolowski
@nobolowski Жыл бұрын
I did an uphill assault through a maize field in germany carrying this thing at its original 14kg weight. By the time i broke cover of the maize i was too jelly legged to make it to the treeline and just faceplanted. Brought a tear to my eye remembering the joy of youth.
@Tiesemans_one_in_ten
@Tiesemans_one_in_ten Жыл бұрын
🤣
@Niinsa62
@Niinsa62 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine was part of a CG crew back in the day. Probably around 1980 or so. He was told his crew had fired the most live rounds of any crew ever. And they were good. Good enough to make a couple of live round firings during a show where the king of Sweden was present. Unfortunately, the gunner had the wrong distance dialed in on his sights, so instead of hitting the target, he hit a fir tree behind the target and cut that tree off. Leaving a five meters high tree trunk. He didn't recognize what the problem was, and fired another shot, hitting the top of the tree trunk. Still not the intended target. The officers told my buddy afterwards that the king, Carl XVI, realized what had happened. And that he was impressed by the precision of the weapon, and the gunner, who managed to hit the top of the tree trunk in his second shot. He, and his weapon, were obviously able to hit the same spot again and again. So he was totally okay with the show.
@TheJazsa80
@TheJazsa80 Жыл бұрын
Sounds more like your friend missed the target... Twice.
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheJazsa80Two accurate misses.
@georgewashington1621
@georgewashington1621 Жыл бұрын
@@TheJazsa80 thats shooting for groups, not for scores
@blechtic
@blechtic Жыл бұрын
@@vksasdgaming9472 Wouldn't that be "precise"?
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 Жыл бұрын
@@blechtic Hard to say. Missed target and hit exactly same spot twice in a row is both impressive performance and horrid failure.
@dmr6640
@dmr6640 Жыл бұрын
The cost and mobility of the weapon is amazing vs the cost per vehicle or tank removed from the battlefield. Great video.
@sam8404
@sam8404 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing about Western weapons, we don't have to worry about quality vs quantity, we can have both.
@robertpatrick3350
@robertpatrick3350 Жыл бұрын
Quality has its own quantity……
@TheDemigans
@TheDemigans Жыл бұрын
@@sam8404depends on the weapon. Carl Gustav is a LOT cheaper and easier to get than something like a Javelin. As the Tank Museum says, the Carl Gustav is more akin to the Russian RPG-7 than the high-end Western rocketlaunchers. Also if you look at high-end weapons the West, minus the US, tends to have relatively few of them. The amount of cruise missiles for example isn’t very high, despite how important they are for strategic and operational capabilities. Similarly the HIMARS isn’t as available as you might want, which means that you target specific high-value targets with it and rarely “just” for battlefield uses.
@phunkracy
@phunkracy Жыл бұрын
​@@sam8404so why dont you have both? Ukraine is struggling because of this approach
@samolofsson2401
@samolofsson2401 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDemigans if you take sweden for exemple we have chosen to use archer whit excalibur instead of himars like systems for cost per shot and accuracy and if we need to hit bigger targets like bridges or bunkers that is what the Airforce is for or one of the coastal misslie like RB15 if anti-air is thick in the area, like most nato countries we are to small to fling tomahawk missiles around like US can it would eat all of our defense budget very fast.
@mcmoose64
@mcmoose64 Жыл бұрын
In Australian service in the 80s , it was known (unofficially) as the Charlie Guts Ache.
@MelioraCogito
@MelioraCogito Жыл бұрын
Understandable, since firing it was like getting hit in the head with a baseball bat (Canada) or in your case, a cricket bat. It was always the “Carl G” to us Canucks.
@MultiYrrab
@MultiYrrab Жыл бұрын
For me it was more like being punched in the face and kicked in the testicles at the same time@@MelioraCogito
@dennistofvesson6351
@dennistofvesson6351 Жыл бұрын
In Sweden it's called grg, GRanat Gevär. In English it thet would be Grande Rifel.
@quietudinal4857
@quietudinal4857 Жыл бұрын
Earlier than 1980's mate. I fired one at Puka range in 1968. And Swedish Government stance on Viet Nam war threatened ammo supply. Swedes did not like the thought of the AP round being used on the VC/NVA.
@lindsayheyes925
@lindsayheyes925 Жыл бұрын
What a weapon. I still remember the metallic ringing of the fillings in my teeth, and the weird effect of the bang being loudest in my left ear (now stone deaf). Charlie G is the only weapon that made me flinch when firing it. I was very glad that I never had to carry the sod in the field.
@kalleklp7291
@kalleklp7291 Жыл бұрын
I shot the Carl G back in the 80s as I was in active service at the Danish Air Force. We had Mk2 and the Mk3 was just being issued in 1985. We referred to them as "Dysekanon". As the war in Ukraine started I advocated for NATO and Allied to send them as much of them as possible. Many people don't believe they can crack "modern" Russian tanks open like the T80 and T90, but they can! They're also highly effective against buildings and personnel. They're cheap, reliable, and versatile. The only drawback it has is one cannot fire them in confined spaces like from inside a building due to the back blast.
@ollep9142
@ollep9142 Жыл бұрын
I was trained on this weapon in the Swedish army back in 1989, but specialized in its bigger brother the 9cm recoilless cannon. What's said here apply to use within the British army. In Sweden we do it slightly different. The loader doesn't check the rear at the time of loading, but do so when the gunner calls out "skott kommer" (shot coming). Then the loader checks the rear, and if clear calls out "klart bakåt" (clear rearwards). Also the ranges given are not universal. In the '80ies we were taught to fire HEAT at up to 300m on moving targets and 400m on stationary. 25 years later those distances had been halved. (I have no clue why. While training we had no problems hitting the targets.) Smoke and HE rounds could be used at ranges up to >800m.
@ttaibe
@ttaibe Жыл бұрын
I know nothing. But I assume the British procedure was described, not the Swedish one..
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 Жыл бұрын
It did feel very wrong for the loader to not look behind them as they fired.
@tomeng9520
@tomeng9520 Жыл бұрын
When I serve the army I was GRG shooter. (Grenade launcher Carl Gustaf 84mm) then it was 14,3 plus grenade 3,5 = 17,8 kg fully loaded. Today less than 7 kg plus cartridge weigh 3,1 to 4 kg so around 10 kg fully loaded. Effective firing range : 150 m to 2100 m using rocket-boosted laser guided ammunition. Very fun to shoot. I had 95% accuracy of all my shoots if I may bragg. Also we use 9mm tracer rounds ammo. But at max 100 distant in to paper targets. And also 20 mm trainings rounds in to paper / metal targets, but at max 350 distant. SWEDISH Carl Gustav 84mm first fielded 1948 GRG is an abbreviation of Swedish word GRanatGevär (GRenade Rifle).
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
The ranges were halved because modern armored vehicles got faster, with better suspension, more powerful engines and more dangerous with stabilised guns/sights and thermal sensors which mean that you can't sit in a bush and take your sweet time aiming and tracking before firing anymore. You need to wait in hard cover with the right ammo loaded until the enemy vehicle is close enough for pretty much a one shot kill, then pop up at the squads observers notice, find the target, aim, fire and hopefully hit good in 2-4seconds. If the hit is only a mobility kill and doesn't make the crew bail out, you better have squad mates with Pskott or be quick enough to hit it better with a second shot before they slew that turret or pintle mount around to return fire, or you need to be already gone to somewhere else before the enemy crew figures out the direction you fired from.
@Echo_Mike
@Echo_Mike Жыл бұрын
The attention to detail and quality of these videos is the best I’ve ever seen. Love the Swedish Strv.81 in the back!
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
Looks more like an IKV 91 to me with that pike nose
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 Жыл бұрын
You know the fun is about to begin when you hear someone call out "Bring up the Carl G" or "Get me the Gustaf"
@ttaibe
@ttaibe Жыл бұрын
idk about that. When i am in an armored vehicle with the hatch open I might actually have to disagree.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 Жыл бұрын
@@ttaibe I think that's a wee bit different
@grindelston5968
@grindelston5968 Жыл бұрын
Chazzy Gee !
@ttaibe
@ttaibe Жыл бұрын
@@admiraltiberius1989 just a smidge.
@MrKunstarbeiter
@MrKunstarbeiter Жыл бұрын
Like in War of the worlds, 2005.
@jimcy1319
@jimcy1319 Жыл бұрын
Remember doing the final stalk at sennelager, 500mtr in wet slushy snow, one shot one kill. Loved firing it but carrying the fkr was a pain as we didn't get 9mm smg, we still had to carry our SLR 's.
@ronaldandersen1422
@ronaldandersen1422 Жыл бұрын
A SLR whith ammo AND the 84. Was this a penalcompany?
@jimcy1319
@jimcy1319 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldandersen1422 1 sqn RAF Regiment ( now I think of it most of us had been in nick, so yes) 🤣
@kentnilsson465
@kentnilsson465 Жыл бұрын
One thing that isnt mentioned is that the HEAT round itself has been improved in that the explosives in the round now explodes faster so that the HEAT can penetrate many ERA plates in that they dont have time to explode before the HEAT round has "passed". Same thing has been done to the more modern AT-4s. There are also rounds that can be fired from within buildings, just like some AT-4s
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
The rounds that can be fired indoors use a counter shot. The AT-4 soft launch and NLAW use a salt water counter shot. The German MBB Armbrust (crossbow) was interesting in that the propellant charge was contained between pistons in a tube. When shot one piston would push the HEAT projectile out one end of the tube and a polymer flake counter shot out the other. The gases were retained entirely within the tube retaining rings trapped the pistons. This class of weapon evolved into the current MATADOR RGW60, RGW90 and RGW120. The German Panzerfaust 3 is re-loadable and uses polymer flake counter-shot. I think Panzerfaust is the only reloadable soft launch weapon.
@johanmetreus1268
@johanmetreus1268 Жыл бұрын
@@qFamop As they all are one shot disposable weapons, the answer is no ;)
@qFamop
@qFamop Жыл бұрын
@@johanmetreus1268 I Am Dumb Don't Mind Me
@buzzyinurface
@buzzyinurface Жыл бұрын
This was an amazingly educational look at the Carl Gustav. What a treat to watch!
@magnuslauglo5356
@magnuslauglo5356 Жыл бұрын
Great weapon. In the Norwegian army we attached them to rucksack frames so that we could carry them easily on our backs.
@herptek
@herptek Жыл бұрын
A clever idea for long marches on foot or skis.
@magnuslauglo5356
@magnuslauglo5356 Жыл бұрын
@@herptek another Norwegian army trick is to tie a snow shoe under the bipod of an MG3. The simplest solutions are often the best ones.
@herptek
@herptek Жыл бұрын
@@magnuslauglo5356 Perhaps. Our standard equipment included neither MG3 nor snow shoes, but at least MG3 sounds like a good idea if we are to change into weapons chambered in NATO standard calibers. I never appreciated the appeal of snow shoes over skis for mobility purposes, but I guess there is a role for them too in uneven ground.
@PersonalityMalfunction
@PersonalityMalfunction Жыл бұрын
​@@magnuslauglo5356We slipped the caps of the grenade storage tubes upside-down on the "feet" of the bipod to stop the gun from sinking in the snow when firing prone. Worked great.
@marcuslindahl3541
@marcuslindahl3541 Жыл бұрын
That’s actually swedish practice as well.
@greybeardp
@greybeardp Жыл бұрын
In 1976, my (infantry) soldiers fired off a Cav Regiment's entire annual allocation of 'Charlie Swede' Illumination rounds in one night, supporting that Cav Regiment's night firing shoot. The back blast succeeded in excavating a small trench.
@michaelguerin56
@michaelguerin56 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you. The Backblast Danger Area-BBDA- is the part that many people fail to understand. I love the depiction in the training video.
@NexusReload
@NexusReload Жыл бұрын
There's been a few videos from the Russia Ukraine war that have demonstrated what happens when you don't account for back blast, it's not pretty
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
​​@@NexusReload I've caught my own foot with the edge of it once, no damage as it was a 20mm training round insert, but the boot felt distinctly warmer and my foot felt as if someone had kicked the instep hard enough to make the foot feel a bit numb....
@ghanaboyz
@ghanaboyz Жыл бұрын
Many of us Swedes have personal experience from these... Back in my days, live firing was called using 'fullbumpa', mostly when officers where not around and otherwise grg. Love how Britts used a grg in the Falklands war as a mobile coastal artillery against a Argentian warship. It always felt you got some serious punch with the team when having the grg around, also could put smoke where and when you needed it. Having some more freedom on what to bring, we could bring up to 4 grg in a platoon, but mostly having 3. With a mine or two, a bunch of pansarskott and 2-3 rounds of fullbumpa (grg) you could deliver a decent suprise punch in an ambush to an armorued column. Some guys were extra good on grg and did very well on moving targets without the aiming stuff of todays, but we all got training on it. Had a very good rate of fire when having a good 2 man team..."skott kommer", "klart bakåt!", "boom" The safety zone backwards was different in war. ..As I remembers it some of the over 6 000 Swedes fighting in Congo did have grg, so yes, it was used in war by Swedes back in the days. grg was used for odd things when there were no other alternatives: some Swedes knocked out mortars with their grg... Very heavy fighting at times. Some Swedes saw horrible things there, but some also brough back photos and memories of smiling pretty local women.
@grindelston5968
@grindelston5968 Жыл бұрын
'fullbumpa' is my new favourite word Also: >Congo >pretty women implying
@stefanlangheden
@stefanlangheden Жыл бұрын
Exactly, first we used a 9mm training pipe inside Carl G and then we could fire fullbumpas, i think it was made of concrete...
@bertmacdonald337
@bertmacdonald337 Жыл бұрын
The bloke firing the 84 thought he`d fell short as the round impacted below the waterline and there was no visible external explosion. The bridge and gun had been struck with 66mm rounds, all on the bridge were BLR`ed (Beyond Local Repair) and the gun was able to traverse but not depress so it continued firing harmlessly into the Fortuna Glacier. Tussen takk ghanaboyz !
@dmg4415
@dmg4415 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanlangheden early 80s the hottest round was the smoke round about 700m in range, laying on grass that was wet from the rain a couple of hours ago, setting one of these of made wet grass and residual water lift up and cover all of yourself including face. Or another time being dug down under some big trees with heavy snow on them, after one shot you all knew were the snow went, instant camouflage!
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
​@@dmg4415 not really, the hottest load has always been the illumination/starshell, which has so much power that the regulation demands it's fired standing from high on a hill/ridge, over the top, as to have a larger, solid object free backblast zone... The training of the Swedish army also includes that loaders/no2s are supposed to have a ready round in a "baby cradle" grip, indexed to the alignement cut in the casing rim with the middle finger, so that the venturi can be slammed open with the left hand only, forcefully enough to eject the spent casing and then shove the fresh one autoindexed into the breech with the right and close the venturi with the left while shouting the ammo type loaded to the no1. Enabling an average firing rate of around 10-15 well aimed shots per minute, up to 20 rounds per minute if the no1 is quick and accurate with the aiming😊
@gerryparker1390
@gerryparker1390 Жыл бұрын
Never had more fun firing a weapon. In Canada it was known as the Karl G. I is quite the experience to fire. We were taught to leave the mouth slightly open so that the air pressure on the eardrums would be equalised inside and outside. When firing Heat-T it look so surreal as it arced it's way down range. In combat you wouldn't be watching but bugging out. Fires in the back blast area were common depending on the weather.
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 Жыл бұрын
We'd rip the bark of the (knee high) mountain birches behind us and started one or two fires in the dry grass during one spring shooting (in the very north of Sweden). The force of the back blast really needs to be experienced.
@Cubcariboo
@Cubcariboo Жыл бұрын
I was a C-2 gunner and loved it and was usually providing security for the Carl-G team. On the anti-armour course it was my time to play! 17-20 year olds blowing sh#! Up! Carl-G or Eryx, I would still pick Carl. Good times! Good times.
@lawrencelaird2919
@lawrencelaird2919 Жыл бұрын
In the 1974-75, I carried the M67 Recoilless Rifle. A great AT weapon, much longer and heavier. Pretty much the same function. For field training we carried a sub caliber ‘round’ that fired the 7.62 NATO round. Blanks for training and tracers on the range It weighs about 46 pounds loaded and was supposed to be able to penetrate 350mm of armor. It was about 53 or so inches in length. It is amazing what a guy remember after almost 50 years 🤓🇺🇸
@sparkywunderdog2636
@sparkywunderdog2636 Жыл бұрын
2nd Ranger was using the 90 in the mid 80s.
@dennistofvesson6351
@dennistofvesson6351 Жыл бұрын
@lawrencelaird2919 Repetition tends to get that effect on your memory. 😁🇸🇪
@michaelnorling5062
@michaelnorling5062 Жыл бұрын
I was an antitank commander during my military service, and used the Carl Gustav as the bigger PV (pansar värns pjäs in Swedish) and I can tell you.. LOOK out for the back blast! Or it will kill you. But a formiddable veapon I was impressed by the exact precision expecially with the Junghans sight. It was exakt and hit the target every time!
@jm9371
@jm9371 Жыл бұрын
This weapon was standard training gear for me when I went through battle school in the Canadian Armed Forces in 1985. I only shot one round through it before I was transferred to an anti aircraft unit. Fantastic video on the 'Carl-G' as we called it.
@dontliebehonest6545
@dontliebehonest6545 Жыл бұрын
Used this weapon for 3 years in Sweden. None of the videos available online show a proper set-up and reload of the Carl G. Left hand is the only hand that touches the rifle (the handle, the back piece, and the empty shells). The right hand holds your next shell with your fingers in the gap of the shell (the opening that allows the shell to enter the rifle) and the point of the shell pointing to your right shoulder.
@karstendoerr5378
@karstendoerr5378 Жыл бұрын
I know the heavy tank fist "Carl Gustaf" very well from my time in the German army. We didn't use it to fire at tanks, but we used it to illuminate the battlefield. During our stay at the Canadian Force Base Shilo in 1996, we had turned the night into day on the training ground with the "Carl Gustaf".
@samolofsson2401
@samolofsson2401 Жыл бұрын
one shoot whit illumination lights up the whole forest, still remember waking up to FN mag fire and 3-5 explosions and then 2 bright spots in the sky like 2 mini suns, can't exactly remember what exercise but it was in the early 2000.
@karstendoerr5378
@karstendoerr5378 Жыл бұрын
@@samolofsson2401 I still remember a comrade hanging on one of my feet so that you wouldn't take off. It was shock-free, but it was like a rocket propulsion that could lift you off the ground because you had to shoot at a 45° angle.
@samolofsson2401
@samolofsson2401 Жыл бұрын
@@karstendoerr5378 i never fired illum my self only heat and I did it when I had a heavy cold let's leave it at i got a mouth full of mucas and nose bleed and a tremendeous head ache.
@TheNigelrojo
@TheNigelrojo Жыл бұрын
We had to wear double hearing protection when firing this thing in training, it was so loud. It's a fearsome weapon, but a really heavy beast to carry on a long infantry march; only the strongest guys could do it.
@Vollification
@Vollification Жыл бұрын
We did it on "rotation", every 10th minute on march you just passed it down the column to the person behind you :) When you got it you just counted "One thousand, two thousand, three thousand..." up to sixty and did it ten times then you passed it backwards. That was what we where told to do but everyone just set a vibrator timer on their phones. No one cheated, ever. You can carry that damn thing for ten minutes. If you can't you shouldn't even be here.
@371gm
@371gm Жыл бұрын
On my command post RA in the 70’s, it was an essential piece of kit. Since all we had to defend ourselves was a few SLR’s and SMG’s. It was comforting to know we had this to combat Soviet APC’s. So it amazing to know it’s still in service.
@azynkron
@azynkron Жыл бұрын
Oh, it would always had been effective against IFVs and such and obviously now the scope is even bigger with HE rounds e t c. However, against a T-80 you would have gone for a mobility kill since you couldn't really hope of penetrating it. A T-72 would have been on the fence.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
The latest titanium M4 version weighs only 6kg which is less than a RPG-7. The preceding version were 10kg and 15kg.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
@@azynkron In think weapons like RGW110 and Panzefaust 3 with 110mm tandem warheads are the only non guided weapons that could handle these tanks from the front.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
​​​@@williamzk9083 there are tandem warhead rounds for the CG too. If you have the chance in summer, I'd recomend a visit to a small, volounteer operated Swedish military history museum in Delary, a few miles south west of Älmhult (Where the first IKEA factory and store was built) They have an almost complete collection of display rounds for the CG, covering both domestic issue, exported and experimental variants, iirc, it's over 50 different rounds, though some are almost duplicates, only different to the others of their respective function in the fuse design, propellant type or explosive type.
@chaz8758
@chaz8758 Жыл бұрын
@@azynkron Side shots or with the later rounds a T80 could be and have been destroyed in Ukraine by Charlie G - development never stopped - we changed ours for the Law 80 - 94mm one shot weapon with a 5 round spotting rifle attached - always thought getting the newer rounds and a variety would have been better though (along with a later version than the M2 we had
@matthewford937
@matthewford937 Жыл бұрын
First trained on it in 1988, that exact model. Loved the lighter version that came out a few years later with a carry handle and severely reduced weight you run with it! I could still operate it today if I had to.
@patricktracey7424
@patricktracey7424 Жыл бұрын
I carried the charlie G 84mm with the british marines in the 70s, a very effective weapon but it was the most uncomfortable thing i ever had to carry over long distances for days on end along with my SLR. the projectiles were less annoying as they came in a plastic carrier of two or three. i was normally the GPMG gunner and i was used to carrying that, it was also heavy but it was easier to carry compared to the charlie g.
@ruvanefriebus-cv6td
@ruvanefriebus-cv6td Жыл бұрын
The Carl Gustav is a terrifying weapon it's incredibly accurate it doesn't have a computer targeting system to lock on before firing so as long as you can see any piece of the target you'll be able to send one through their steel also it doesn't misfire either.
@dennistofvesson6351
@dennistofvesson6351 Жыл бұрын
@ruvanefriebus-cv6td Actualy the latest version of sights is a kind of computer sight that can caculate everything you need to get a shure hit. I think there is a video about it here on youtube.
@ruvanefriebus-cv6td
@ruvanefriebus-cv6td Жыл бұрын
@@dennistofvesson6351 Provides you with a laser rangefinder that's about it
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 Жыл бұрын
I love HEAT. And that's not just because I live in Australia. It's a real multipurpose round because the blast effect is also considerable.
@FishFlys
@FishFlys 11 ай бұрын
I love The Tank Museum so much man, there are so many good people putting so much effort into restoring and retelling history in a modern and interactive manor, I really can't put into words how amazing something like that is for me :)
@peterkallend5012
@peterkallend5012 Жыл бұрын
I had a play date with Carl nearly 20 years ago, he's great fun on the playground.
@andershansson2245
@andershansson2245 Жыл бұрын
I might've guessed Bofors could be a bit of a mouthful for a Brit to pronounce correctly , but I had absolutely no idea Eskilstuna would be THAT troublesome... 😂
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount Жыл бұрын
In Australian service as the "Gun Anti Tank 84mm, L14A1", the rubber band is pushed back to the largest diameter of the venturi (at the very back of the weapon) to reduce vibration / noise.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
I’m somewhat surprised the Germans didn’t develop these in WW2 since they had a a recoilless gun called the 7.5 cm Leichtgeschütz 40 and had the PzGr 38 HEAT round. I believe the Carl Gustav had something in common with the Panzerfaust 100 which was a double propellant charge with an air space to delay ignition to keep peak barrel pressure down.
@alltat
@alltat Жыл бұрын
It would definitely have been an improvement over the Panzerschreck, but Germany seems to have gone all in on developing the Panzerfaust further instead.
@bamgbose3309
@bamgbose3309 Жыл бұрын
​@@alltatyeah, because the name is cooler
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
@@alltat It's clear they were attracted to the low cost of the Panzerfaust and Panzerschrek but their range and accuracy really wasn't up to the task expected. The New West German army was equiped with Super bazooka. When this weapon was retired they returned to the Panzerfaust. The Panzerfaust 44 used a lead grease counter shot to achieve a range of 400m. The current Panzerfaust 3 uses a polymer flake countershot and is much safer than Car Gustav and the old Panzerfaust 44.
@azynkron
@azynkron Жыл бұрын
@@williamzk9083 Safer? Safer for whom?
@mbr5742
@mbr5742 Жыл бұрын
@@azynkron What sound does a pig make when it runs into a wall? Uffz! And that is who is protected by the modern Panzerfaust - the Uffz (Unteroffizier - Corporal). Who more often than not looses in a quiz show to said pig if you believe the average german soldier.
@veryhappychappy12
@veryhappychappy12 Жыл бұрын
Cost me a large part of my hearing when we got it first in early 1967. Loved it all the same. The damage done by a single heat round to an old 50 ton Conqueror at Hangmoor was very rewarding.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
No ear protectors?!😬
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 8 ай бұрын
@@SonsOfLorgar Even with double hearing protection they still damage your hearing,
@KimKhan
@KimKhan Жыл бұрын
Seeing a video of a Carl Gustaf knocking out a *T-80* in Ukraine was a sweet moment, indeed.
@bungalowjuice7225
@bungalowjuice7225 Жыл бұрын
Proud of my country for providing this capability to defenders of democracy and freedom.
@kapten-awesome
@kapten-awesome Жыл бұрын
As a swede, this makes me proud.
@tristantully1592
@tristantully1592 Жыл бұрын
​@@tafdizI'm pretty sure the Gustaf has greater armor penetration. The RPG is a bit lighter and only needs one user though.
@kapten-awesome
@kapten-awesome Жыл бұрын
@tristantully1592 well the new carl Gustaf the m4 can be loaded and then walk around with so you could be 1 person that's shoots and reloads.
@antonzemanek7770
@antonzemanek7770 Жыл бұрын
Hope, Sweden will also provide Ukraine with Jas 39 Gripens. You will be even more proud!
@stevewiles7132
@stevewiles7132 Жыл бұрын
I trained on these, great fun, what a punch, like being picked up, thrown down, and spun around all at once.
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 Жыл бұрын
As my lieutenant during my military service used to say: a MG is a fun weapon, a CG is a manly weapon. (KSP är ett roligt vapen, GRG är ett manligt vapen.)
@Zi9makin9
@Zi9makin9 Жыл бұрын
I trained on the M48 variant now, in 2020, its still an amazing rifle and truly timeless. Altough a lil heavy in comparison to the newer M86 (M4) xD BEAST of an anti tank rifle and seriously incredible to shoot
@fat_biker
@fat_biker Жыл бұрын
I am deliriously happy for todays troops that they get a Titanium Charlie G & don't have to carry the cast iron (well, it felt like it) Charlie G I was humping around in the 1980s! I wonder if you can fire all the new Gucci ammo through the old models? Come to think of it, can you mount the new ultra cool sights on the old ones? If you can, the old ones retain their utility on the modern battlefield, & that means _some_ poor sod is going to have to carry it. Unless the old ones all end up mounted on vehicles or on defensive positions...
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Жыл бұрын
All the old ones long gone...replaced by LAW80 years ago, that was then replaced by iLAW then the current NLAW. The old CG will have been disposed 20+ years ago. Probably melted down....at £15k a pop its better just to get new production...
@fat_biker
@fat_biker Жыл бұрын
@@dogsnads5634 It's the TA units & the stuff down the back of the armoury behind the box of LMG mags & the stack of Sterling SMG cleaning kits in regular units that I'm thinking of :-).
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
The Swedish army still uses the m/48 stovepipes... Mostly in the homeguard part time volounteer militia, where the personal issue small arm is a modified Hk G3...😅
@jensolsson9666
@jensolsson9666 Жыл бұрын
@@dogsnads5634Here in Seden we still have them in storage, for bad times, they have quite a long storage life with nearly no maintinance needed.
@joakimsoderberg8046
@joakimsoderberg8046 Жыл бұрын
I have been a "grg shooter" for many years. You can easily see what group that has been on the range with grg during exercise. Thats the group with the biggest smiles😊
@steffenb.jrgensen2014
@steffenb.jrgensen2014 Жыл бұрын
In my (much) younger day I used to be a machinegunner, and when you found it heavy (MG3 11,3 kg + ammo) you could at least find comfort in not carrying the Carl Gustav or its ammo :-) Well anyway it gave a small infantry unit a huge firepower against most targets, even helicopters.
@MrSmokinDragon
@MrSmokinDragon Жыл бұрын
this. In my Recon Squadron I usually complained about the fact that my personal firearm was an LMG (MG3), and had to lug it around on runs, but in the field, when dismounted, the driver, who was the designated Carl Gustav user of our vehicle, definitely had it harder...
@sundragon7703
@sundragon7703 Жыл бұрын
The Carl Gustaf is a great design for its task...easy to use, unjammable, relatively inexpensive, upgradable ammunition, solid construction, able to operate without networking, and does the job well.
@captainscarlett1
@captainscarlett1 Жыл бұрын
I've fire the Carl Gustav, both HEAT and illum. What a blast! Very satisfying. A big explosion pressed up against your head. It blew the hearing protection out of my left ear. Lol. Such fun. More impressive than the explosion down range.
@chaz8758
@chaz8758 Жыл бұрын
First time I fired a full size round (TPTP) was when I was 16 at JLRRE. Lost my old tin lid (it was smoking a little as it landed in the back blast area), Amplivox hearing protection (still had the old mouse dildo rubber ones on we were issued though) and felt like I had been slapped in the face with a sandbag - never mind we were firing prone from a pine needle covered firing point
@PersonalityMalfunction
@PersonalityMalfunction Жыл бұрын
Carried this 14 kg beast in my arms for over 60 km in 24 hrs as part of the green beret qualification test. Never been so exhausted. What a weapon though!
@raidkoast
@raidkoast Жыл бұрын
Like I've heard from some of the old soldiers in Sweden. "A portable tank barrel. Both in weight and effect!"
@TzunSu
@TzunSu Жыл бұрын
Eckilstuna is the most original pronunciation of "Eskilstuna" I've ever heard :D Great episode though!
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 Жыл бұрын
A bit funny and ironic that brits and americans tend to pronunce swedish words as if they were german^^
@TzunSu
@TzunSu Жыл бұрын
@@lavrentivs9891 Haha yeah, super common! In this case kind of odd though, seeing how both Eskil and Tuna are very easy to pronounce for native English speakers :D
@89RASMUS
@89RASMUS Жыл бұрын
I may be biased, but the CG84mm will probably stay the coolest tank popper for the rest of my days. You're basically using a drain pipe to lob VERY angry beer cans at your adversary. In peace time, it's strictly regulated how many live rounds (nicknamed "fullbumpa") you can fire for practice since your body takes such a beating from the percussive blasts. When you hear a Swede roar "KLART BAKÅT!", followed by "SKOTT KOMMER!", you'd better get down, no matter whether you're behind or down range.
@Ubique2927
@Ubique2927 Жыл бұрын
Ah.. The Charlie 'G' what a lovely light piece of hardware. easy to carry and loads of practice rounds fired through it.
@fat_biker
@fat_biker Жыл бұрын
😀 We had a sub-cal kit, so many a cardboard tank died to it!
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 Жыл бұрын
Easy?!!!
@Ubique2927
@Ubique2927 Жыл бұрын
@@johnfisk811..Sarcasm. 16 years, two practice rounds one of which misfired!
@crabmansteve6844
@crabmansteve6844 7 ай бұрын
$20k plus ammo to destroy $4.5m+ armor is the deal of the century.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen Жыл бұрын
People who have not been near a Carl Gustaf have precisely ZERO idea how ungodly loud it is, and how ungodly much ruckus is kicked up, when "the Swedish King commands his will". Everyone in your postal code knows your exact location. And whatever it was that you didn't like is confetti spread over the adjacent three postal codes. An absolutely fair trade-off if you ask me.
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 Жыл бұрын
It is a cannon of respectable caliber and cannons tend to be loud. As in way louder than personal weapons.
@casp1965
@casp1965 5 ай бұрын
lol Booom!! number1" Reload.!"..... Number 2 "f**k Off , we're running away!!"
@mikewinston8709
@mikewinston8709 Жыл бұрын
I was taught it in the mid 70’s. A great bit of kit…🇬🇧
@SnoopReddogg
@SnoopReddogg Жыл бұрын
Australia had these on the books in the 60s but they weren't deployed to Vietnam because the Swedes 'apparently' threatened to withhold the ammo if we did.
@terrybarrett2368
@terrybarrett2368 6 ай бұрын
1966 in Vietnam did a familiarisation course on the Charle Guts Ache only fired the HEAT round
@pkre707
@pkre707 11 ай бұрын
By far my favorite infantry anti-tank weapon. Simple, versatile, and effective. These things are going to around for a long time.
@Hiznogood
@Hiznogood Жыл бұрын
2:35 ”Äckelstuna” 😂 Well, that’s might be one way to describe Eskilstuna!😉 For non Swedish people “äckel” means creep in Swedish. Eskil was the name of a saint and tuna is an old word for place. So Eskil’s Place.
@agp11001
@agp11001 Жыл бұрын
No, it's from Tuna Creep now. New canon.
@MontyDK1
@MontyDK1 Жыл бұрын
Fired this one a few times back in the early 80'ies. I still remember the ringing sound, when the rubber band at the end of the exhaust nozzle wasn't in place :)
@iberiksoderblom
@iberiksoderblom Жыл бұрын
It's a fantastic and very versatile weapon.
@markreardon6663
@markreardon6663 Жыл бұрын
Loved this weapon back in the day. It is also useful for bunker busting.
@python27au
@python27au Жыл бұрын
We were taught it had a ROF of one round then bugger off, cause after you fire it everyone knows where you are and if the first round missed you probably won’t get a second.
@Duke_of_Petchington
@Duke_of_Petchington Жыл бұрын
RoF not ROF, ROF stands for Royal Ordinance Factories. but I knew what you meant after reading it a second time
@thewomble1509
@thewomble1509 Жыл бұрын
@@Duke_of_Petchington Rate Of Fire...............
@Duke_of_Petchington
@Duke_of_Petchington Жыл бұрын
@@thewomble1509 I know, but the Abbreviation of The Royal Ordinance Factory(ies) is ROF followed by the name of the factory's location e.g. ROF Nottingham. Rate of Fire is done RoF, the 'o' being not capped as "of" is not really a word of meaning or description. memory reaction from someone who likes to study the industry of The UK's history.
@thewomble1509
@thewomble1509 Жыл бұрын
@@Duke_of_Petchington I know. I was pointing out that ,in this case ROF was an abbreviation of rate of fire. I won't say anymore as you are obviously incapable of holding a conversation.
@Duke_of_Petchington
@Duke_of_Petchington Жыл бұрын
@@thewomble1509 are you capable of the same? The comment you have just made, makes you sound like a stuck up snob who thinks they’re superior to everyone. All I was trying to do, was just explain why It took me a second read of the OPs comment to realise what they meant.
@petter5721
@petter5721 Жыл бұрын
As a former squad leader in the Swedish army, we were experts on winter tank/combat vehicles ambush and they always lost, “GRG” is an effective weapon.
@Dunnay48
@Dunnay48 Жыл бұрын
It would be pretty ironic if they end up killing some of the tanks originally intended to be killed with the carl gustav, like t62, t55 etc
@sam8404
@sam8404 Жыл бұрын
Surely must have happened? I seem to remember reading Russia has been using those tanks.
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 Жыл бұрын
The original targets were more like the T-34 and IS-series of tanks^^
@Dunnay48
@Dunnay48 Жыл бұрын
@@lavrentivs9891 close enough
@phunkracy
@phunkracy Жыл бұрын
​@@sam8404not directly on the frontline, as a backup for third line troops
@jonmassey5619
@jonmassey5619 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful talk-through as ever.. I think I'm quite up on my Military stuff and then these Vids by TTM come along and put me back in my place 😀
@AdurianJ
@AdurianJ Жыл бұрын
The 84mm caliber comes from an old 84mm gun barrel from the Boden fortress that was milled down into the first prototype. I read this in "Artilleri Tidskrift" in the 80s which is a publication for the Swedish artillery and air defence. Dont remember which number it was in a a long article about Jentzen and his career. The Swedish army was unsure about it in the beginning and only ordered 1000 units while they ordered 3000 Super Bazookas. Needless to say the Bazookas did not compare well in service.
@bjorntrollgesicht1144
@bjorntrollgesicht1144 Жыл бұрын
I bought a sight for one of those at Bovi for 3 quid many years ago. I still like to look at cars through it!
@ownage11445
@ownage11445 Жыл бұрын
The Carl Gustav hasn’t changed that much other than the materials becoming lighter. You’ll probably see this weapon serve another 100 years.
@swedishmeatballs7818
@swedishmeatballs7818 Жыл бұрын
the main thing that have changed is the shells, by all means the Carl is just a very angry tube not much you can do but make it lighter
@DevilbyMoonlight
@DevilbyMoonlight Жыл бұрын
I was a 'Swift and Bold' RGJ squaddie back in the 80's and remember the Charlie-G only too well, remember the drills always 2 of you, - Tank action! load, loading, loaded, ready no.2 checks backblast area and taps the shoulder of the firer when clear, before the good news was sent towards the target, a lot of the training was done subcalibre with a special shell with a rifled barrel in it, as the full fat rounds were pricey, which had the benefit of not having the massive backblast so could also be used for training on an indoor range if necessary, its been a long time but firing a full fat round for the 1st time as a young 18 year old was an experience I'll never forget! I'll never forget the weight of the bloody thing either.
@Alchemist37
@Alchemist37 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always 👌😊👍
@bmcg5296
@bmcg5296 Жыл бұрын
So fascinating on a weapon coming up to 80 years of service, is amazing life for a dangerous destructive east carried weapon. Great narrative is encapsulating to the viewer. 👍🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark Жыл бұрын
The Danish army used these a lot in Helmand. A true battle winner ✌️
@chadclay1643
@chadclay1643 Жыл бұрын
What the hell where the Dane’s doing in Afghanistan? I hope they get stung for reparations and a war crime inquiry
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark Жыл бұрын
@@chadclay1643 We're a NATO member.. War crimes.. wtf are you talking about?
@chadclay1643
@chadclay1643 Жыл бұрын
@@heinedenmark oh you guys were handing out sweets over there not making life hell for the civilians, my bad
@victornewman9904
@victornewman9904 Жыл бұрын
The phosphorus round was amazing!
@ray.shoesmith
@ray.shoesmith Жыл бұрын
Man, I learned how to use this beast in the Australian Army in 1992
@dave1234aust
@dave1234aust Жыл бұрын
Same Army, trained on it in '83 at LWC. Got fed up with the double tap on the head and having to yell "BBDA clear".
@maddogmorgan1
@maddogmorgan1 Жыл бұрын
I shot one for the first time about the same time ARA 90-95
@dave1234aust
@dave1234aust Жыл бұрын
Best I ever saw was a (I think) minor round that was used for demo purposes. Sure wasn't the full version. We were still using the SLR and Greens lol.
@wilf609
@wilf609 Жыл бұрын
@@dave1234aust Possibly The Sub Calibre Training Device (SCTD) originally consisted of a 6.5mm tracer bullet designed to match the ballistics of the HEAT round., you put a 6.5mm round into a special round, then loaded it and fired it as normal but a lot cheaper and quieter.
@greybeardp
@greybeardp Жыл бұрын
Anti-Armour Pl, 2/4 RAR, 1974 (including live firing in Mt Hummock Sector, Shoalwater Bay Training Area, in the lead-up to Exercise Kangaroo 1).
@Elbereth_TV
@Elbereth_TV Жыл бұрын
there's also a round developed that allows you to fire in enclosed enviroments and the backblast is essentially negated, theres a disk in the back of the round filled with water than disperses the shockwave
@66kbm
@66kbm Жыл бұрын
The best "Anti Corvette" weapon........Ever.
@georgemirabella100
@georgemirabella100 Жыл бұрын
Love the Tank chats! Keep them coming please! As a turbo nerd, I find this information amazing.
@andreasmelcher3958
@andreasmelcher3958 Жыл бұрын
It is cheap to produce. It is deadly it has high accuracy and we have loads of ammo. therefore, Carl Gustav will continue to appear in all the world's conflicts. for a long time to come. especially in Ukraine. Slava Ukraine 🇧🇧🇸🇪
@Superknullisch
@Superknullisch Жыл бұрын
Kalle G!! Goes BOOOOM! GRG for the win! 💪
@thedodge1942
@thedodge1942 Жыл бұрын
Its a another part missing on that weapon apart from the handle, that is the rubber band on the venturi, you will miss it when firing a live one......
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
That was actually a formalised field modification. Swedish jaeger units quickly started to use cut up sections of car and bike tyre inner tubes and vulkanising electric insulation tape to sound proof and glint proof their equipment, including their CGs.
@russwoodward8251
@russwoodward8251 Жыл бұрын
I know it's going to be interesting when I see Chris in the first minute. Thanks. A fascinatingly long lived weapon.
@joebryer
@joebryer Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the Carl Gustav, 84mm of constitutional monarchy coming your way!
@dtengineering1
@dtengineering1 Жыл бұрын
I remember firing those in the mid 1980's. The whack in the back was huge!
@davidwhite9159
@davidwhite9159 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t mention the bipod, which was generally fitted into the forward hand grip but I found it much better in the shoulder pad tube (you can just see this tube when he picks it up) as you could lock yourself around the bipod and then get a stable shot - yes I have fired the weapon, both indoor & outdoor sub-calibre rounds plus I had the pleasure (???) of firing a live round with a practice head. It is the loudest device I ever got to fire and the back blast felt like all the air was being sucked away from you - one guy I knew was acting as No.2 when his 1970’s style ear plug fell out & unfortunately the No.1 fired before he could shout “STOP” and he could hear anything in that ear for a few days!
@ttaibe
@ttaibe Жыл бұрын
not ( missing word in the last sentence). XD
@petervandyk7173
@petervandyk7173 Жыл бұрын
The Danish Army had a tripod on the M3. Much superior to the wobbly spring bipod on the M2. Most of my training as a C-G gunner was based on shooting in the prone position or from a foxhole. We even had a special triangular plywood plate to place over our foxhole, so the C-G could be placed on the tripod over the foxhole. Made the gun much more stable. But I've never seen the tripod on other countries C-G.
@TheDemigans
@TheDemigans Жыл бұрын
I always heard this weapon was obsolete for killing tanks. It was now more of an anti-infantry and anti-bunker weapon, or maybe to clear a barricade or something. The fact that it can still defeat tanks, even if it isn’t from the front, shows its not obsolete. The cost per shot also makes this a far more available unit. Javelin and NLAW are far more expensive per missile fired. This makes training and arming groups with it far easier.
@Chilionloppu
@Chilionloppu Жыл бұрын
Anyone thinking that Carl Gustaf is obsolete anti-tank weapon must be thinking that every engagement with a tank is head on against the strongest armor. The truth that the war in Ukraine has shown is that tanks are far from invulnerable fortresses and even much less capable weapons like old RPG-7 rockets and RKG-3 grenades can still be very effective against the sides and the roof.
@akmzd6938
@akmzd6938 Жыл бұрын
​@@ChilionloppuAnd then there's the fact that not every vehicle on the battlefield is armoured, never mind an MBT. An RPG can be a devastating weapon against infantry fighting vehicles, armoured cars, APC's, troop and cargo trucks, signals outpost vehicles, fuel bowsers, field kitchens and what have you.
@satanihelvetet
@satanihelvetet Жыл бұрын
Very good video! I'm basic trained as a gunner at his weapon in the early 90's. We had one GPMG, one Carl Gustav and one ATGM-system per squad in the AT-platoon. Aditionally also 2-4 AT4 at the squad.
@BBP081
@BBP081 Жыл бұрын
In the Canadian army reserve, we ended up drilling on this a lot. Firing it, on the other hand, was a novelty. I found it hard to aim, but for those who got to use it often, what did you think?
@peterjohannesson6671
@peterjohannesson6671 Жыл бұрын
Very simple to aim and fire with. Swedish army. And I am very suprised of the effect of the gun. When training they said do not fire at tanks, fire at personel carriers. If you fire at a tank you will only make the crew angry on you. And in Ukraine they blew away one of Russias best tanks.
@evilreddog
@evilreddog Жыл бұрын
@@peterjohannesson6671 Reason for the note is not shooting at the front of the Tank, Sides are still vulnerable for penetration, as shown in Ukraine with the T-90. but doctrin to shoot at a tank is a volley of 3-4 shots in a tank hunting unit from a ambush position. Single gun is not advised. Same doctrin is in use with single use weapons like the AT-4 or M72 LAW
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
Iron sights were often easier than the optics imo.
@MelioraCogito
@MelioraCogito Жыл бұрын
Was No. 2 on a Carl G gun during a nighttime live fire ambush patrol ex at BATUS with 3PPCLI (1981). My No. 1 did a ‘blimp-shot’ at a moving target (+30 km/h) coming down a forward slope, about 400 m out, with a single para flare illumination behind us. Aced the shot.
@Furniture121
@Furniture121 Жыл бұрын
​@@peterjohannesson6671indeed, it was a Canadian supplied Carl-G as well.
@TheVaultDescendant
@TheVaultDescendant Жыл бұрын
I would love it if at the end, when you bring up costs you would give comparisons, and discuss other relevant things like cost of different types of ammo. Great video!
@1337flite
@1337flite Жыл бұрын
His name is Charlie Guts Ache. I was just about to comment that the weapon at 4:38 is unservicable as it is missing the broad rubber band that fits around the rear of the venturi. One of the most spectacular shows I saw was a static squadron night shoot using Charlie G parachute illumination rounds to light the shoot .30/.50 brownings and 76mm. IIRC each illum rounds could illuminate roughly a grid square. Note Viet Nam was not listed in the conflicts where Charlie was used even though it was in service at the time. It is said the Swedes refused to sell us ammunition due to our use of CS gas to clear tunnels - which the swedes considered chemical warfare.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
That rubber band didn't even exist on the Swedish issued originals, it was provided on export weapons as a formalised version of a coscript jaeger field modification where they cut a section from the inner tube of a car tyre and pulled it over the venturi and secured it with vulcanising electric insulation tape, the vulcanising tape was also used on other parts of their gear that was prone to making metallic noises or getting paint shafed off to glinting bare metal, as blackening with oil/grease and fire (compromising durability of issued government equipment) was not allowed and punished.
@dserrao7188
@dserrao7188 Жыл бұрын
Aaaahhhh….the memories!!! I remember one range day, I had 5 RAP rounds to fire in a row…I will never forget by the 5th round, I was just pulling the trigger since I felt like i was getting battered in the chest each time I squeezed the trigger! 🤣
@lemmingbargeld863
@lemmingbargeld863 Жыл бұрын
6:24 if this sight has 2 times magnification and the the other sight has twice as much, shouldent it be 4 times and therefor four times more than iron sights not 3? Or am i missing something?
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