Lessons Learned From Cabling Project Gone Wrong...

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⏱️ Timestamps ⏱️
00:00 Worst Cabling Project Ever
00:51 How Did we get this job?
03:00 What is a GC?
04:30 Wiring Contracts & documentating changes
12:22 How We Use Contractors
21:25 How we mitigated risks
#StructuredCabling

[@PoringPoring951]

These projects need to be a #series. Would love to learn more about these projects.

[@SilentRush420]

I work for a cable company that services the detroit area and I have seen some of your server rooms. Always been very clean wiring work!.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Thanks

[@billygilbert7911]

Great story. What a crazy project. I've had the joy working on a mess like this. Documentation and being fair and friendly is priceless. I love the photo of the new wall with door opening and your wires running through it. If you are building a wall and see wires hanging why not assume those wires need to be above the wall. Spend 10 minutes and brace them above your wall.

[@jhippl]

Being friendly to other trades often leads into new referrals. I have even taken time on a lunchbreak to go terminate a few cat6 cables for another trade guy for free that lead me onto a huge 1m+ fiber job because the other guys they had lined up didnt show and at a meeting with the gc he mentioned my name and gave my number out.

[@dontlookatme3816]

I make efforts to be friendly with trades just so that they mess me up, at least on purpose. As anyone can imagine if there be an electrician or plumber your on the bad side of they can find ways torture you through out your time on a project. I would say though the ones you really want to be friends with or don't cross in anyway are the HVAC(Heating, ventilation, and air conditioning), everyone takes a backseat to them...

[@zadekeys2194]

Our basic nature is to make friends, friends will help us protect our tribe & our tribe will help them aswell. We need to be kind more often & firm when needed.

[@TJoseph2]

The sentiment of everyone working together for the same goal is something that is missed in big projects. People who only look after themselves end up doing double work from not collaborating.

[@bitslammer]

Great story. I was part of a major overhaul of many LANs for a well known consumer goods company back in the late 90s. Similar issues. "Cabling contractors" who knew nothing about data cable who used a hydraulic cable puller that made are Cat-4 (I think) cable at the time into Cat-0 as it was stretched maybe 5-8% longer when pulled. People cutting through fiber because they "toned it out" figured it was bad copper!?!? and other such fun. I don't miss those times, but in a way I do.

[@JoeTaber]

Great story, and eye opening lesson on what happens when the owner doesn't have a clue what they want. A "redoing shit for no reason"-fee seems like a good way to handle the mental stress.

[@dontlookatme3816]

Those are called "change orders". There is never any shortages of them when construction is starting or even ongoing.

[@dreddey]

redoing shit for no reason!

[@James_Knott]

I have also had a couple of "fun" jobs. In one, a new tenant was moving into an office and wanted us to reuse the network cabling to save money. One end of the cables appeared at the wall plates but was not labeled. The other end was in a big ball of cable above the ceiling. With the time it took to sort out all those cables, it no doubt cost more than starting from scratch with new cables. On another, in a dollar store, my work was OK, but we had to deal with some questionable "electricians". One thing that stands out in my mind was they were trying to mount a breaker panel. They mounted the backboard by using drywall screws to attach it to the drywall. Of course this was going to fail and they used a lot of drywall screws, trying to get the backboard to stay up. Also, of those electricians decided to start climbing a step ladder that I was already on! It's also fun when the customer can't decide what they want. Several years ago, I set up a VoIP PBX, according to what I was told to do. Shortly after, I was told it was set up wrong, so I went back and reconfigured. Again I was called back. It seems there were 2 owners who couldn't agree on how they wanted the PBX to be configured. Real fun! I let the sales guy sort out that one.

[@blip-hn6is]

I would definitely pay fiber+soda line to my house.

[@notsure7874]

I'm calling ATT tomorrow to order 10g(allon) / s soda service. Fiber is already there, so it should be easy!

[@James_Knott]

I'd want a beer line! ;-)

[@Jacobhopkins117]

"I should have said no, but the entrepreneur in me said yes." Literally one of my biggest struggles.

[@Dreamtwister2k]

There is so much to learn from this video! Thank you for taking time to prep this! It was as entertaining as it was insightful. Tom and crew making it happen no matter the odds!

[@SyberPrepper]

Sounds like some Go Pros sprinkled around the site taking time-lapse could have been helpful in the who did what and when discussions. Glad you shared this with us. Thanks.

[@notsure7874]

Great way to lose those go pros.

[@gorillaau]

​@@notsure7874 Go Pro??? Oh, that's probably inside a wall now. Oops.

[@notsure7874]

@@gorillaau Or inside a pawn shop ...

[@jeromes58]

This is what happens when the “must open date” schedule drives the project. As a building owner I just watched a tenant go through the same pain on building out their space. The project started months late but the “must open date” was not moved out until the last minute when it was clear the open date was not going to happen. They spent 2x on the build out just trying to keep the original open date. All the work was substandard in my opinion, except for the data cable pulls, as they were the last on the job.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Yup “must open date” was a huge factor in this

[@05glisedan]

Brings back memories. Going into a new building, freight elevator not available, carry 3 pallets of cable - up the stairs. Sucked.... Thanks for posting. Looking forward to the next episode.

[@James_Knott]

Try carrying large batteries up to the roof for a cell site, when the only way up is via a ladder attached to the wall. We wound up going out to buy a boat winch and some channel strut, to hoist the batteries to the roof.

[@MikeOxlong-]

Oh how this is giving me such a chuckle in remembering things that happened in my past... 🤦‍♂️ ! I did these jobs from around 96’ through about when you guys started, and boy was I glad to have moved on an up to better things... We had a lot of fun back then though. It’s also funny just how familiar these stories are....

[@LostPilotage]

For all the years I have been following your content, I had no idea you were in the Metro Detroit area. Appreciate, all the FreeNas/TrueNas as well as Ubiquity content. You make a lot of what I wish I could do look easy.

[@TheTechiemoses]

Thank you. This was more fun then I've had in months. Brings back some good times.

[@nemesis851_]

Enjoyed the show. “Been there, done that” just not to that magnitude. Scope creep, photo documentation as it goes, co-trades working together, pulling/draping long runs after other trades leave site, 4am, winter space heaters, single “lighthouse” while electrical panel getting wired up.

[@djstraussp]

Commitment, collaboration, determination and honesty, key elements to get the job done. Nice Lawrence.

[@bikerchrisukk]

This is great to show, all trades suffer these kind of projects every once in a while. I've been on-site and walls have had to be moved, with no consideration of the impact if other services are on it (plumbing, electric, cat). Like you say, documentation/photos are crucial to make sure you don't financially suffer as a result of someone's lack of planning or hast.

[@danielpeters1754]

I am a contractor in the Atlanta area and if you guys are ever by this way, I am available to help out. I can cable, terminate, operate a lift, everything. It was fun watching this video as I would remember similar projects working for various companies having issues like this. Its more common than you think! I remember doing a project for the GWCC where someone came in looked at what we did, changed it because they didnt like where something was. There's ALWAYS someone who "Flys in" sees something that they dont like, change it, then fly back out. Sometimes a small change like moving something back a few feet can introduce a whole host of problems especially when things have been approved and signed off on. Communication is the key! CYA! I take alot of pictures of things even when not asked to just to cover my butt. Sometimes you can do something, complete it, and come in the next morning and find it changed and something added. Enjoyed the video!

[@joseavecillas7933]

I appreciate the time and effort taken to make these videos. I’m sincerely grateful for all the great content you put out thank you

[@stevedaenginerd]

Sounds like a bunch of projects I worked on with new Amazon Delivery Stations. Lol I worked as a lead for a conveyance installation contractor that handled many sites last year, and everything you said about changing schedules and requirements. So many change requests! And yes, it really happens like that with Amazon! I'd start the day with a set of objectives, then around 9 am one of the Amazon leads would show up and say that this and that need to be changed, and then before I could get an email back approving the changes a different Amazon lead would show up and give me a new and conflicting set of changes! Lol Good times. Good times!

[@James_Knott]

I also have a story about using the scissors lift. One of the people who worked for the customer decided to use the lift for something and in the process ran it into a door frame, causing a bit of damage.

[@attainconsult]

ha yes been in some projects like this, project manager (lead contractor) is always key to how well a job like this runs. Paying your sub contractors is vital so many get ripped off if you want to keep good contractors pay them and on time, wear the loss

[@eduardorivas363]

Thank You. I now know I am not the only one that has had a wiring issue just like this. I walked away from my job as it was beyond toxic. Glad to hear you were paid. I was paid to date when I walked away. Luckily my job actually brought me more business. The GC / owner of the location was so difficult that documentation (with my logo all over them) served as business cards for everyone that went through there to try and work with him.

[@notsure7874]

Omg LOL! So I used to be in construction and I'm not done with this vid yet, but you hit on some REALLY common themes - one of them being that the other guy that didn't show up was cheaper. Contractors are a weird bunch, and used to some snippity rough around the edgedness. My response to them when they say "That's more than the other guy!" is "Well maybe you should hire them!" or "Well they aren't here, are they?" or look around and say "I can see why!" Of course this is VERY tone / context dependent. Construction guys talk to each other like that a lot. One of my carpenter buddies was on a job at a lawyers place, and when the lawyer got the bill was sticker shocked and said "I don't even make that much!" - My buddy didn't miss a beat, and said "Well maybe you shoulda been a carpenter!" The trainwreck of a job ... that client probably started pissed off at contractors because of the first GC, but it's the GC's job to iron all that out not to pass crazy onto subs. I'm gonna go watch the rest of this one, it's a guaranteed gold mine of laughs! :D

[@MactelecomNetworks]

Man that looks like a headache of a job. Good on you for sticking it out

[@kenrq63]

This video brought back some memories of when I was building bank FX/MM Dealing Rooms back in the 1980s.

[@MichaelDude12345]

This was highly educational and entertaining! Thanks for sharing guys!

[@1234fishnet]

I have some years experience in building medical facilities. The biggest problem are changes to the original plan. When you want to build something: TAKE YOUR TIME TO PLAN PROPERLY UPFRONT. Every change to the optional plan causes problems

[@notsure7874]

GC should have put his foot down and made the client go through review, getting permit amendments, and whatever. You wanna open by X date? Quit changing things after the party!

[@craigdawson7632]

We call a GC a PM, project manager in NZ. As per our conversation emails are the only way to go. If its not in writing it didn't happen. Also out of scope charge up can be a life saver 😀

[@dreddey]

You’re a fantastic guy. I’d sign on to work for you in a heartbeat. You treat your guys right.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Thanks 👍

[@JoaoSilva-gs5jb]

I've been dreaming about this for 1.5y now!

[@eoghanfla6343]

After installing over 2000 houses and businesses for ads/vdsl/ftth and installing thousands of data cabling set ups, I feel your pain guys. Were I live unfortunately good data cabling isn’t really respected or expected. I’ve spent many a day fixing other people’s sloppy work.

[@haxwithaxe]

In a way it always feels good to know I'm not alone in having crazy jobs. Thanks for sharing your success story!

[@sharpsbattle]

We always insist on client/builder sign off on changes before we make requested changes. Then we staple all changes together for the final invoice with little problems. Of course we learned that the hard way from being to trusting. Even the nicest people forget what they asked for or didn't realize how much changes cost.

[@randyriegel8553]

Scope creep is EVIL! I've got burnt by it in the past as a software/web developer. I got the point on Quote 1 I'm working specs for it only. Then any scope creep will be Quote 2 and will start on it after I finish and get paid for the original specifications. I lost money many times by saying "yeah I can at that in" and then there were problems and the time I spent on it I lost money.

[@diavuno3835]

Thanks for sharing the story!

[@zadekeys2194]

"Know when you're in the way of yourself" - This seems to define the client in this project.. They should've taken an extra 24h per fly-point-leave to notify the team at large.. If you're working with 5 other contractors, then there are roughly 5 people that could possibly get in the way of each, including the owner. Even small basic comm between everyone will make a big diff in time & money saved..

[@spencerwilliams5461]

Going through one of these now... watching this gave me hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

[@davijamesrberman3847]

I've taken on several projects like this. They are a huge gamble. Not just with money, but your reputation and mental health. Brett is 100% correct about the importance of setting expectations and documentation. You guys seem like you know what you're doing when it comes to coordination with other trades and customer relations

[@metfan]

What software do you use for drawing the plans for the drops in a bulding?

[@tombarber8929]

Were you ever tempted to race the scissor lifts around the go-kart track?

[@notsure7874]

We used to have forklift races at a place I worked in another life! Fortunately they weren't that fast, and had huge counterweights way down low.

[@mrmotofy]

@@notsure7874 It's not how fast ya go it's how much fun you have while doing it

[@notsure7874]

@@mrmotofy Unloaded, you could hit a straight and they had this sweet spot where they'd pick up speed suddenly - felt like you were FLYIN! But only doing about 15mph. Loads of fun!

[@James_Knott]

Last year I was on a job where we had lifts in a casino being built at a horse race track. I don't imagine they would have performed well on the dirt track though.

[@AlanMillerFencepost]

Definitely passing this along to some construction folks - maybe also construction technology people (Procore) as a "this is why a system is important."

[@Speedsk8kayak]

Had some of theses oddly enough on had a go cart track too.

[@glenh2159]

fascinating story, from the comments, this seems to go on all the time. I have had a few moments or gotten involved in projects that have been more change order than planned properly from the beginning. Several times I went to the architect and indicated they should look at the equipment I was expected to install so their drawings were correct but they would not do it and consequently had to make changes mid stream by changing electrical conduits in some fashion. No wonder these things go over budget so often.

[@DrD6452]

Been there done that. Not a job that big but same scenario. Constant changes moving or adding new drops from the original quote. Document, document, document to cover your ass is absolutely necessary.

[@tuanbe]

In your protected and regulated country such projects make it to KZbin. We’re at the opposite side of the world doing hotel projects and we call it Monday.

[@edbouhl3100]

It’s painful to even think about how the cleanness of the overall design as well as all the detailing suffered in the final product. And I imagine ‘as-built’ drawings were just that - imaginary. I hope whoever buys that that building in the future inspects the hell out of it first and adjusts the purchase price accordingly.

[@scpowered]

I never knew you were in the Detroit area. I know what facility that is. Very cool!

[@kubiedubie]

I've been involved with way too many projects like this. Customer makes continual changes and then gets pissed when deadlines aren't met and cost is way over budget. I can feel my blood pressure rising just thinking about it lol

[@arniep77]

Just think about the headaches you avoided by being able to document with instant photos and videos and instant email. compared to even 20 or 30 years ago. I imagine documentation like that was even very hard when you started your business in 2003. I remember many times when we had trouble getting our money when we had to rely on the job foreman to document changes. Computers and cellphones really have made communication a lot easier in the last couple of decades.

[@BroadNetwork]

I know these jobs all to well. It's amazing the corporate miscommunication and changes that arise right in the middle of the project and all you can do is smile and say "Sure, not a problem" and move on. It is enlightening to see others getting this because a lot of deals are broken and ends up with a lot of bad carma at the end.

[@adancalderon8915]

I use the Brady BMP 21 Plus for my labeling. Been using them sice it was call the ID Pal. What do you all use?

[@pepeshopping]

I do not subcontract because of those and other reasons. I give a fee or a percent of the job, to the person/business that gets me the job. That way I remain in control of what and who I make business with, and I can assess for myself bad customers/jobs like that. Has worked great so far.

[@notsure7874]

Holy mother of dog! The perfect stupid storm! I didn't know you had a forum, I'm gonna go there - this is way too much to drop in YT comments. In a nutshell, these entertainment companies are run by the clinically insane, that GC didn't put his foot down when it was his job to do so, commercial construction is a madhouse even when it's going relatively well, and you handled yourself impeccably. I'm really glad you can look back and laugh about it!

[@garridavis1169]

Love this stuff

[@xrekonx]

LMAO Data and fountain drinks coming out of one tube. That's great!

[@notsure7874]

I about died laughing :D

[@bhenson001]

it could lead to a sticky situation ha ha

[@notsure7874]

@@bhenson001 Caffeine and sugar - makes the network super fast.

[@juanduque7983]

these guys paying people to learn while on the job, we need more of that

[@ghanus2009]

This was a fun conversation to watch. Yeah you had me cringing. Haha. We run our businesses in a very similar way! Your bad experience with goofy GCs, and Strange building owners is a CRAZY story! But I have ben there too! I have photos to show also! But yours is a great awful case. On feeding people. Thats great! I do that too! When Im on site, Im bringing lunch for my crew, and the other crews. They put up with my demands for high quality work and my antics far better. I work out of San Francisco, so parking is a premium. Move you rcar, lose your space! So Id run for lunch and buy too. Keeps the workers on site else I lose tons of time. Now whenever I see those folks, they ask me when lunch is delivered! HAha! Thats years later. Its a great rep to have. Good kudos on that! Finder Fees... I do that too. Mostly they say dont worry, I still give something. I tell them without you, I woudl not have anything regarding that job. Id like to personally chat. I have a few questions on how you handle multiple Contractors, etc. Of course CA and MI will have some different rules, but we are very similar. May I reach out to you

[@richrosenbaum8895]

As I always tell my PMs, scope with clarity is everything. If you can't write scope or specs, you won't make money. Many experienced GCs will underbid certain jobs just to get the job, knowing they will make a shit ton on change orders.

[@RuouniKenshin]

Awesome video, hope you made more, hopefully not about an experience as bad as this though.

[@CyFr]

I've gotta say for warehouse/structural projects like this deserve a Project Manager so that so many of these constant changes don't keep trickling down on the day-to-day workers

[@ValenceFlux]

I had to put up a couple panels and an auxillary trough and pipe up to some fire alarms. I was still an apprentice so I did my best to do quality work according to the print. So when I am nearly finished this guy bursts into the area I am working by myself and start trying to pull the panels off the wall. He gives it a few punches and says the print is wrong you guys suck it's all got to come down. Next thing I new I was laid off. I didn't quit though oh no I went from shop to shop. I could of went telecom but I thought electrical was a good idea.

[@joeblow8593]

Great video

[@tac73]

OMG! I used to work in corporate closets, and on MDFs, quite often fixing other's punch down errors. But, I've never seen anything as bad as what you had to deal with! Yikes!!!

[@James_Knott]

On one job, the patch cables were so long they were on the floor and so many of them that you couldn't reach the patch panel without stepping on them. Couldn't close the cabinet door either.

[@ebaystars]

Use a CAD 3D / total model as the base Drawing for contract purposes and very large A3 paper sheets for ppl to sign! Sketchup Pro has free viewers as well and layers and also Autocad etc. Sound like you didnt have a total model at the start stage. Military contracts support this get yourself an ex mil man - he can be the DA interface (design authority)

[@Cueteman]

tools are always go missing in some of this big jobs!

[@rgoodwinau]

Once in a life, we all seem to have that project from hell that stretches beyond our regular limits and we have to use everything we have know, and learn some new things fast!

[@johnbrooks4965]

"No one likes redoing work". Amen.

[@videowatcher495]

One thing is for sure, if you are the guy who brings pizza to share many times over, anyone who will try to screw with you/ try to screw you over will suffer the wrath of the other trades.

[@ident42]

Reminds me of some jobs back when I was an electrician.

[@notsure7874]

Yeah, people aren't quite so keen on cutting wires an electrician ran. Good way to die young.

[@ValenceFlux]

Watch what you're doing before you do it.

[@judclark7376]

This is what working in the trade show convention industry is like

[@awstott]

How many 4 am lift races happened on the go cart track?

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Can't say as there may be some OSHA issues 🙂

[@OverKillPlusOne]

This is why I got out of the LAN cabling business over a decade ago. Working under a bad GC or worse as a sub under two bad layers of GC and “primary”

[@MichaelSmith-lq8to]

Tom, does that 60% requirement of payment upfront vary per job as in like thats your base requirement per every job before work is performed? Just trying to wrap my head around my own fee structure so people dont feel like im trying to scam them.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

50 percent is our minimum and goes up depending on job details.

[@MichaelSmith-lq8to]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Thank you!

[@kostassarakinos3062]

I get the same feeling it’s not the extra work it’s just you make something nice and perfect and then someone comes and f… it up so disappointing…

[@rjdp3]

17:22 isn’t a trash can is one Network Attached Shredder 👾

[@tgmct]

I know I'm late to the party (Cabling Gone Wrong), but I have to ask why you don't demand cost plus on last minute projects or when the scope is poorly defined?

[@grocerylist]

Is that normal for a GC to hire the cabling contractors? I used to work for a fortune 500 company and that's not how we did it. We would always hire our own cabling contractors all at hundreds of branch offices and call centers all over the world and they'd handle all low voltage cabling, A/V, security, etc.

[@notsure7874]

Generally the GC that's doing the build out hires them, but a client can always demand to use their own. Usually doesn't happen unless the client has very specific needs, and is building things all the time, all over the place. The artists / speciality outfitters (go kart guys, etc) he was talking about were most likely hired by the client. That's how most of those entertainment places do that anyway.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

It's a mix of us getting hired by the GC or the client who then has use report to the GC for the project.

[@danmiller1701]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS what happened to all the scrap cabling

[@engrpiman]

A few years ago they flew some guys across the country to cable our building. It was a dumpster fire. Our local contractor is so much better. Just a little pricey. But with the price you get verified cables with labels.

[@veritanuda]

Yeah.. Those sort of large projects need a good project manager who can be the go to guy to arbitrate stuff. You were lucky to be able to float the contractors despite the probelems with the project. I have to admit the scale of cock ups is truely amazing and it shows that no one , not the customer, not the GC not anyone had a firm plan and vision for what was supposed to happen. It sounds like it was very much a project by comittee where there were too many chiefs and not enough indians. Never understimate the value of having someone on site all the time who can see things and interupt them as they go along. I know myself from personal experience than just being there to inspect what happened day to day is a great way to head off disasters. That being said being cool with everyone else and helping out when you can is a must. You are all in the same boat when it comes to a project and so if you can work out a compromise that does not deviate too far from what is wanted it is good when you can tell someone to lay 2 conduits while they are laying one etc. Still you live and learn and I am pretty sure the warning signs you saw at the begining will be something you can avoid in the future. Thanks for sharing. It is a valuable insight in how to deal with projects that drive you mad.

[@draskuul]

Fortunately the couple of buildouts I've been involved with as a customer went far better than this. I did have some issues with one vendor breaking code draping CAT5 across power conduits, water pipes, etc.

[@notsure7874]

They never heard of J hooks?

[@draskuul]

@@notsure7874 Yeah, funny they used j hooks for most of the runs, but as they got to the termination point it's like they just gave up and started slinging shit over whatever they could in the drop ceiling.

[@notsure7874]

@@draskuul What I see a lot of, is people underbid jobs to get it, then by the end of the job they wish they hadn't got it, and the half-assery ensues. This is why it's common practice in any construction job for final payment (usually 10%) to be withheld until the punchlist is complete. I'd never let that fly. This is where a good GC is worth their weight in gold - the experience to spot that, and get it corrected when the client might not know any better.

[@James_Knott]

There was one time when my company was the customer and the contractor ran the network cables through an air duct, including the damper, so that it couldn't close when needed.

[@skeeter4028]

Sounds like some contractor disguised as management come in a tried to sabotage the project.

[@letter2steve]

What a poop show. Thanks for sharing. I love your positive attitude Tom. You are a gift to the IT world.

[@qwerty74]

The people flying and pointing should watch this video.

[@dgpkira9440]

Did the "profits" outweigh the trips to the liquor store? Jk. Seriously nice to hear these stories once in a while for someone who's still trying to get out there and take risks on projects.

[@juanduque7983]

so if you want to be good and have a good steady flow of business...don't be greedy

[@WorkBundle]

Management with Power Trip since they have money to make changes, because they are not doing the building process.

[@jimscott8077]

It's a wonder anything gets built.

[@05glisedan]

Project manager - super important....

[@LackofFaithify]

Have had wires cut, finished drops caked and buried in stucco, but never have had a ceiling moved. wtf...

[@Californiansurfer]

Yes. Owner changes mine, then is shocked on final bill

[@davidchavarria]

so what happens to the extra cable?

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Some re-use, mostly scrap.

[@murbella7]

This is why the role of Project Manager was created.

[@chipped]

VARIATIONS to the moon! 😂🤦‍♂️

[@glynnetolar4423]

Hopefully that company either gets rid of the upper management that caused this or that this company sinks because of incompetence.

[@MatthewLiegey]

I’m not alone 😌

[@bertblankenstein3738]

"Overage item: grievances, for changes and redoing work. $5000". Lol

[@Arclyte306]

They are called seagulls. Fly in crap all over everything.

[@ValenceFlux]

Shipyard work was fun but dirty hahaha