Empire of Saxony | 1920+ // Iron Harvest

[@TemplinInstitute]

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[@asunderco]

@@freedomstar3930 Commies can't make requests, their government doesn't allow that.

[@sandvichbros1659]

I hope you guys going to cover the others factions soon. Maybe even factions not in the game, too.

[@imperialadvisoraremheshvau3788]

Was there a zealous Bohemian Corporal in this Great War?

[@tennisyn6493]

Can you do the two other factions in the game?

[@TemplinInstitute]

@@tennisyn6493 maybe you should watch the video we put out on Saturday

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

Prussia: Raptors, Tanks, and Mustaches Saxony: Wolfs, Mechs, and Beards

[@merkavamkivm3373]

Saxony > Prussia

[@lothar3610]

They had tanks... tanks full of schnapps 😂

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

@Wizard Lizard ; Germany between 1871 and 1945 was just Prussia with a name change.

[@erickeggum3767]

@@occultatumquaestio5226 i say it form 1871 to 1918.

[@irongeneral7861]

@@merkavamkivm3373 *Otto Von Bismarck would like to know your location*

[@Pulkz]

I'm from Saxony and I don't remember that happening here ngl

[@andilucas6926]

Once I get a time machine, Friedrich August III will have an independent nuclear deterrent...

[@christosgiannopoulos828]

It's from before you were born

[@BertramShord]

Yep lower saxony speaking here. Last time i looked i couldn't find any mechs, but it seems you got this going for you now - which is nice!

[@annelisemeier283]

Kurt Zownick Niedersachsen ain’t Sachsen tho, technically anyway

[@Schattenadler]

​@@annelisemeier283 Not the new saxons but old saxons to be sure.

[@antitroller101]

Polanian: It is always nice to have a Saxon noble to tour our lovely city and countryside :) Saxony tourist: Indeed, this place is very beautiful but also is very productive in terms of economy, yes? Polanian: err...Yes, we support Polania through our mining, use and trading of our grade A minerals and metals. Saxony tourist: Very good, I will be sure to come again after the Empire wins the war. Polanian: Well thank yo- Wait...What?!? O_o

[@ashleycroydon9743]

Polanian:😮😮🤷🏽‍♂️ Saxonian:😂🙃😎

[@Mediados]

Polania: Exists Rusviet and Saxony: "I will be taking this, thank you."

[@theeternal2734]

I'm Going To Assume That There's A Very Successful Austrian Artist In This Timeline...

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

Just pray he won't couse WW2 Because if he Do Then we will have a Much Bigger mech to Deal

[@christosgiannopoulos828]

And that the largest most famous zeppelin in the world lands successfully every time

[@denzelsmashsymptom4264]

Landcruiser anthem intensifies ...

[@BierBart12]

Except in this timeline, he passed art school And made his mum proud

[@kentam6891]

His name was Hadolf Atler

[@sandrika22]

Wheel? Never heard of it.

[@danielgarza1209]

*Distant Rusviet laughter*

[@bigpigeon2384]

Daniel Garza that’s why they’re so big!

[@Archris17]

Motor cars in warfare? Whatever next, armored tractors? Don't be ridiculous!

[@sandrika22]

@@Archris17 APC's. Even tanks have wheels wraped by tracks.

[@patrik9328]

Wheels? How ridiculous

[@Kemot300]

Saxony: You stab the Empire in the back Kaiser!!! Kaiser: You like bleeding to death so much? How about you just go donate your blood till you're dry?

[@GarlicPudding]

"Many are convinced the Kaiser is involved in a plot to stab the Empire in the back." That sounds...worryingly familiar.

[@utubrGaming]

Ein Volk, Ein Sachsenreich, Ein Kaiser!

[@GarlicPudding]

EroticOverride Given the alternate history, You-Know-Who may not rise to power here. (Maybe a propagandist artist?)

[@GarlicPudding]

EroticOverride That works!

[@GarlicPudding]

EroticOverride He got the Kaiser's attention with a painting of...a cute puppy.

[@GaldirEonai]

So Saxony replaced Prussia, resulting in a greater focus on industry than military strength for "Germany".

[@InchonDM]

A comment on another video proposed what I thought made a lot of sense--while the overall "Germany" is still together, Saxony went for a more conservative view on unifying the country, acting as a more overt overlord instead of Prussia's method of being economically and politically dominant. Hence why it gets called the Empire of Saxony, as the Empire of Austria was named after the dominant Austrian archduchy. So "Germany" isn't _too_ fundamentally different--the Saxon and Prussian aesthetics weren't that different at the time, and Germany as an industrial power was basically always going to happen. But you're extremely correct! Instead of an army with a country, we get an industry with a country. Which also results in a big army. So.

[@manuelbes]

@Carlos Paredes Kaiser Friedrich and his next heir is Prince Wilhelm

[@W4H00]

They seem to have outsourced the production of the Mechs since, according to the manual of the manual of scythe, the mechs are produced in a state called "The Factory".

[@MinecraftMasterNo1]

@@W4H00 Let's be honest: it's probably whatever their version of the United States is. Selling weapons to the highest bidder on both sides? A capitalist wet dream.

[@W4H00]

@@MinecraftMasterNo1 The Factory has nothing to do with america singe its a city State in eastern Europe.

[@tspoon772]

Thank god they changed the name from Saxony Empire to something that actually makes sense

[@ZephLodwick]

Has 'Polonia Republic' become 'Polonian Republic'?

[@tententononce2570]

Rusviet doesn't make sense either

[@Vitalis94]

@@ZephLodwick Polonia refers to Polish speaking communities abroad, POLANIA is the actual name used in Iron Harvest. :P

[@ZephLodwick]

@@Vitalis94 Yes, but they should use the adjectival form Polonian and the demonym Polon.

[@moriskurth628]

@@tententononce2570 Rusviet apparently means "Dawn" in Russian, as far as I have heard.

[@Vitalis94]

Interesting. So in this world, Saxony has united the German kingdoms, and then became a parliamentary monarchy, with Bundesrat and Reichstag as two of it's bicameral chambers. The society after this Alternate WW1 is still heavily influenced by the nobility. I wonder if fascism even exist in this timeline. Communism seems to exist, seeing how TTL Russia is a "Rusviet" Empire. Maybe the Bolsheviks are in power in Duma while the Tsar still reigns, somehow? Really interesting, would love to learn about the rest of the world.

[@cac_deadlyrang]

nani

[@wolsin9787]

This is a Mladorossi moment

[@CptSeighter123]

I dont know much about the lore but isnt this pretty much a WWI situation rather than a WWII one? Since the „germany“ in this game still has a kaiser i‘d assume both the equivalent fascism and communism hasnt come into being yet, and the Rusviet empire is pretty much tsarist Russia.

[@Vitalis94]

@@user-xsn5ozskwg Yeah, of course, but I was talking more about the larger world here. It's obvious as of why this alternate Germany isn't fascist, but the question remains: Did fascism, as in, the ideology, even emerge on this alternate world, at all?

[@Vitalis94]

@@CptSeighter123 The setting resembles our Interwar era, actually. The Great world has already happened, and the conflict which is about to start in the campaign is the Alternate WW2, so to speak.

[@krasimirtimov6496]

I'd love to see the wider world of this setting and how parallels to the Balkans, the Mediterranean, the Americas and Asia would be be represented in game

[@utubrGaming]

Apparently Japan is still in a Shogunate phase, and the UK is basically pre-Anglo-Saxon, with multiple brythonic celtic clans ruling over it. The Tartars still rule Crimea as a Khanate, while the Scandinavian Vikings confederated into a Nordic Kingdom. Ironically, I can't find much information on how France, Italy, Greece, Bulgaria and the Ottomans are doing in this universe.

[@KillerOrca]

@@Babbling_Coconut Maybe Saxony ate Austria-Hungary? Ottomans are probably just doing their own thing in the Fertile Crescent.

[@Nostripe361]

For America, I like the idea I saw on a Reddit post of a version of the US where the colonists didn’t go full genocidal on the natives but instead integrated with them; creating a European/native mixed culture. I like this cause you could see mechs based on native Americans; like using large ballistas instead of guns and more based on speed and maneuverability for hit and run tactics. Also explains the shogunate since I could see this America having no interest in enforcing unequal treaties on japan like in real life.

[@krievondhahrknes4259]

Go to Jakub Rozalski's art station or search up stuff on 1920+ but be warned their are two faction that are spoilers.

[@Guciom]

@@Nostripe361 According to previous works set in the 1920+ universe, the US does not exist in this world. The American Continents where discovered but do to some events there was no push to colonise it. So it's possible that the Mayans and north American native tribes are still killing each other over territory.

[@QuantumAscension1]

The Empire of Saxony: Basically, what would happen if Germany went diesel-punk mecha-anime before WWI

[@ttd0000]

That's the entirety of the 1920+ universe.

[@dyslexicmidget1344]

I still think tanks would replace mechs, i know kinda weird but tbh tanks are faster, smaller and still pack a good punch, maybe the bigger mechs would just dwarf the tanks(im talking about the art so like the titan mechs) soo they could crush it but the only real way these walkers would be good is if they would be used as mobilie fortresses and siege platforms but not straight up replace battle tanks. Ok just imagine your a soldier and you see this medium sized mech lumbering at you and you just aim a anti tank rifle where the pilot should be and boom, you more or less killed it, but a tank, oh baby that thing will just overun you before you get a shot off. Its a cool idea with the mechs but i just feel like the tank would usually win against those medium sized mechs on the frontlines. BUT, the mechs would have a use as super heavy lumbering fortresses(of course the big ones) or just mobilie gun platforms FOR DA BIG BOOM

[@QuantumAscension1]

monke boi Honestly, that’s kinda the argument for most stories involving mechs. Something on the relatively small side such as the Mantis in Halo or Titans in titanfall are just about the reasonable upper limit. Those can fill the role of infantry fighting vehicles and move on terrain that wheeled/tracked vehicles can’t. But anything bigger will likely be too unwieldy in close quarters, too exposed to enemy fire, too heavy for ground pressure, too top heavy that it can be knocked over, and too much cost per unit to outweigh the applicability of tanks.

[@dyslexicmidget1344]

@@QuantumAscension1 yeah as i said the only use for them as i see it are mobile fortresses and siege platforms, you could really stick some big guns on those titans(again, im only talking about the artwork) those could level a city in a fee shots, or make quick work of forts, mobile arty and moblie H U G E fortresses

[@Hardbass2021]

Well, the Saxony Kaiser fits the role of a mobile fortress, so it checks out. Probably build a mech with long range killing capabilities, and sporting a powerful AT gun.

[@sorcererberoll4641]

Saxony:Plans for years to win a war Also saxony: loses Rusviet: it’s rusvia dude

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

All that was left are the Americans, British and Other Countries to Join

[@darklysm8345]

Without a second front on the west germany could beat russia

[@sorcererberoll4641]

Darklysm I think if it was just rusviet, saxony and polania I doubt it would be called the Great War

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@Anzu Wyliei Well i'm wondering if there's a America and British

[@LegacyZwerg]

@@darklysm8345 in ww1 germany beat russia

[@Cleverly_Named]

Another normal Victoria 2 campaign.

[@jonme225]

In one of my campaigns as mexico usa became fascist and a civil war began with comunist rising everywhere and states leaving the union as mexico i was watching with horror as USA became a battle royale

[@Cleverly_Named]

@@jonme225 The wild ride never stops in Vic 2

[@hanselsihotang]

@@jonme225 Similar with my Mexico campaign, but The USA in my savegame instead flip-flopping between Communist regime, Fascist and democratic for almost 35 years. They finally disintegrate into 4-5 independent nation, in which I puppeted 3 of them (Cali Kingdom, Texas Republic, and Colorado Republic). It was cursed. I blame my greed on me carpet sieging USA during my intervention on behalf of CSA during the American Civil War. USA was never the same after that... But hey, at least I got higher immigration rate bcause of that.

[@boxcarz]

@@hanselsihotang You know a timeline is dystopian when Americans immigrate to Mexico. XD

[@hanselsihotang]

@@boxcarz America is living hell in my savegame. Probably comparable to Chinese's Warlord Era. Half a dozen nation-states killing each other. Those warring US states were a pain in the ass to sphere so I just puppeted them anytime they gave me any sort of casus belii. Instead of Imperial Japan, it's my Imperial Mexico messing with the Americans. I felt kinda bad, but it's just Vic2 so it's fun🤣. Plus it's their fault for trying to take my Northern states.

[@erikjohnson1684]

It would be cool to see the French, British, or Americans in this setting.

[@halorecon95]

Brits don't exist in the setting, they are all Celtic. Their main mech is a bagpipe. I am not making this up. Check "Scythe Albion" if you don't believe me.

[@timezerohour8864]

DLC and I look forward to it.

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

That sounds like a sequel. Love to see a recreation of World War II with these mechs.

[@jlokison]

Depends on who the dominant powers in the new world are. Iberia probably still has dominant influence in the southern continent, there is the small Dutch colony of Colombia, but the Francs, Rus and Asians probably have a significant influence in the north continent.

[@Mediados]

@@vladtheimpaler9577 I suppose, since its Dieselpunk, they will expand the WW1 style and not go for the historical accuracy of the WW2 designs. Better that way.

[@frederiksd]

"Into the age, of the machine." Thats quite an awesome quote the setting considered.

[@mr_girr3488]

Glad to see the 1920+ universe getting some love looking forwards to Iron Harvest!

[@Evinthal84]

Check out Catalyst Games Labs game called Leviathans. Like Scythe (which Iron Harvest is based off of) it is an alternate history version of 1920+ but with flying naval ships. CGL stopped production of the game a couple years ago due to miniature issues but they are supposedly going to relaunch the game next year via kickstarter.

[@Dziki_z_Lasu]

I believe that some art from this timeline, shown here, was painted by Adolf Hütler - the famous and very eccentric Austrian landscape painter.

[@manius1222]

4:45 That basically happened in real life too. The nazis blamed the loss of the war on the communists and said that they "stabbed germany in the back". (see "Dolchstoßlegende")

[@firebladeentertainment5739]

as a german i can confirm that this is what happened we lost the first ww but a good portion of the populus and army couldnt accept it (including Adolf Hitler) and over the post war years pushed to remilitarise and basically try again.

[@sheepbeeps3369]

The nation buckled, the military broke, the noble leaders surrendered. But the entire time they had promised victory to the populace. It appears in iron harvest the kaiser got the blame instead of other potental scapegoats.

[@bamaboy5746]

Except it was Germany that stabbed Russia in the back?

[@sotheofdaein]

I read that germany actually was backstabbed by union defeatists that did a bunch of ammunition manufacturing strikes near the end of the war. Basically they really wanted the war to end and they figured that to do this, they had to cut off Germany's supply lines. Anyway, toothbrush man blamed them for Germany's defeat and labeled them as communists and jews, which really shows how he was able to turn Germany's populace against the jews so easily and get people to think that jews were traitors. However, while the ammunition strikers were filthy traitors whose actions ironically would contribute to the beginning of a second world war, I doubt many of them were jews, and communism was in it's infancy so I don't really know if they really had much of a foothold in germany, maybe the strikers had some marxist ideas but I doubt they were in a formal communist organization.

[@CrapMyHat]

Would have been nice if the world had worked together to wipe out the communists however.

[@Derginator]

The Iron Harvest world is so interesting I’ll be curious if there’s a WWII sequel

[@Vitalis94]

They mention the Great World as it already happened, so with the war starting once again in the game, doesn't it make it a WW2 analogue?

[@piotrwisniewski70]

@@Vitalis94 well, before world war 2 there was also Polish Bolshevik war, and probably this it, because the paintings on which this game is based (1920+) are alternative version of this war. Also, fun fact, Jakub Różalski, the creator of 1920+ also created series called ,, Apocalypse Day" which is about world war 2

[@Vitalis94]

@@piotrwisniewski70 Well, I don't remember Germany being involved in the Polish Soviet War in our timeline, whereas here, all 3 factions fight with each other.

[@piotrwisniewski70]

@@Vitalis94 I don't remember that too, so I'm really not sure about which war this game is about. I've seen somewhere comment that this is still world war one

[@Vitalis94]

@@piotrwisniewski70 Well, it's an alternate history, so it doesn't need to be an analogy to anything in our history after all.

[@abnegazher]

MY THERMIC REACTOR P U L S A T E WITH EXCITEMENT!

[@dmitrykuzmin5229]

Beeeep...

[@CrazyDutchguys]

HUMUNGOUS TERMINATOR DADDIES

[@vader7467]

My smooth, rounded auramite chassis

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

Over-designed and difficult to repair. That's sounds familiar.

[@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177]

Tiger-tank slowly drives out of view

[@bigbrother1531]

@@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177 Before breaking down after going on a small speedbump

[@meddlus2098]

@@bigbrother1531 and then suddenly the engine deck catches fire...

[@CrazyDutchguys]

@@meddlus2098 then gets bombed by half the US airforce

[@vitaurea]

this reply chain could make a wehraboo cry

[@beanlord4347]

Long live the Kaiser. May Saxony's enemies tremble at its military and industrial might.

[@Jackson-bc8fd]

The templin institue could honestly make non Fiction stuff really interesting and only do it on special occasions. Kinda like Space Dock did for the Apollo 11 50th anniversary.

[@roberthill5805]

This reminded me of my favorite "mech" was a quadruped platform that had a single marksman on it. It was silent, came with camo, and supported a large anti armor rifle and a normal long range rifle with large amounts of ammo and other gear for spotting and communication. Basically it was a mobile sniper's nest.

[@MrDosonhai]

Something tells me this is one of a planet in the 40k universe.

[@franzcedriclat7629]

That SD KS 49 Grimbart...imagine... add more dakka alongside the LMG, a big iron gob in the front, a WAAAGH! banner on the top, replace the left arm pincer with a saw disc, paint the iron gob red and it becomes a Killa Kan or a Deff Dredd.

[@danielgarza1209]

"The Kaiser's Finest!"

[@patrickliu5251]

What does the Kaiser require?

[@sirsmiles1915]

We do best at defenses

[@focile4352]

"I am ready to serve the Empire!"

[@mr.werewolf]

It was worth waiting. Great work, guys!

[@grlt23]

Thank you Sir for this universe!

[@imperialfist2304]

Saxony? More like oh my lord why in gods name is there a ATAT on the field at least it’s not Germans with battering rams and power armor.

[@KillerOrca]

They got power armor. Well...exo-suits.

[@JmonsterNEO]

@@KillerOrca the exo-suits have battering rams for melee and back-mounted mortars

[@benjaminwinnie4626]

MY HYPE RADIATES LIKE THE SUN ITSELF

[@alissa2791]

Ooo were boys WE GONNA HAVE A FUN TIME. THIS. IS A PEAK HYPE MOMENT!!

[@mingchoi8369]

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[@airplanemaster1]

4:18 Gotta feel bad for that boi getting his eardrums blasted out via rotary auto-cannon

[@AlexanderosD]

I'm loving this! Jakub Rozalski's art is so fantastic, and getting to play a game in that art world is so cool. This series is going to be enjoyable.

[@KillerOrca]

The Great War of this world is as close to the Great War of Scott Westerfeld's Leviathan series as we'll ever get. Minus the genetically altered combat animals and flying whale airships of course. But mechs slugging it out over shattered terrain, millions dead for ground (not so different from our WWI mind you, "Price of a Mile" indeed)... I LOVE IT.

[@15oClock]

Technology progresses faster than ways of thinking.

[@helpiamstuckonthismanshead3385]

Indeed

[@andilucas6926]

As a published author on, reenactor of and all-round enthusiast for the Royal Saxon Army of WW1, I obviously feel this fictional Saxon Empire would be far better with all the symbols and accoutrements of the historical kingdom - the green/white flag, the star plate with 'rue crown' coat of arms instead of an eagle on the Pickelhaube, the unique tunic details, the motto 'Providentiae Memor' instead of 'Gott mit uns' and the glorious regional accent... :) I do hope that at the very least its capital city is still Dresden, the monarchy is still Roman Catholic and it still makes the world's finest porcelain!

[@6thsavage]

You missed the most important part?!? How efficient was Saxony’s postal service during their industrial development???

[@anarchyandempires5452]

I had never heard of this I hope there's an American factiom, something more interventionist and more Theodore Roosevelt's greater America than what we actually had during this time would be awesome you know like a glove spanning American empire that is on the brink of coming to war with like the British of this universe or something.

[@KillerOrca]

Considering Tesla is a MASSIVE player in this world, and how he basically chilled in America for ages? I would expect exosuits wielding lightning bolts and some of Teslas crazier ideas made manifest.

[@KillerOrca]

@Lex Bright Raven Tell that to the creators, the U.S. seems to be basically what it was IRL.

[@everythingsgonnabealright8888]

Now you know, guys. Usonia is a blend of all your ideas - colonist nation that integrated native population instead of massacring them, and Edison building mechs by stealing plans from Tesla.

[@anarchyandempires5452]

@@everythingsgonnabealright8888 I didn't expect to be napalm blasting my enemies with a flying dreadnought nor did I expected to be drone bombing the middle east for oil in the 1920's but I must admit I am pleasantly surprised.

[@giratinabasado8436]

You predicted the future

[@A-Forty3707]

"would be returning to their family before the leafs has fallen from the trees " *Christmas intensifies*

[@vanivanov9571]

It was so similar to the actual history of Germany that I was getting confused about what was different. Largely that the Kaiser and Nobility maintained power, and now there's a tenuous balance between them and the liberals. Not sure how giant mechs would lead to stagnate warfare, honestly. I'd expect the war to swing to one side and be over fairly quickly, due to higher mobility and the difficulty of replacing lost mechs.

[@pdehoff1]

Depends a lot on how secure the supply line is. WWI, the supply lines from Germany to the Western front was essentially untouchable, so as long as they could get the arms and soldiers and ammo made, it could be fired. Factories were safe, and as long as they had the raw materials they could supply the front. WWII with aircraft, this was not the case. Factories were known targets and not safe. Supply lines (bridges particularly) could be cut. If this A.U. has aircraft or some other method of outflanking a front and getting at the lines, a more mobile war would be necessary and preferable. If no effective aircraft, then pick your line and hold it down.

[@vanivanov9571]

@@pdehoff1 Tanks were the main thing to break up the stagnant warfare in WW1, even more than aircraft which was in its infancy.

[@boobah5643]

@@vanivanov9571 Tanks are oversold here; that was the hope, but they were too slow, too prone to breakdown, and there just weren't enough of them to be very effective at the role. Which is why although tanks were introduced in 1916, trench warfare didn't end until after the war. Yes, there were some tanky successes late in the war, but it's an open question as to whether those were more a sign of the German army reaching its breaking point rather than a sign of the potency of slow, mechanically unreliable armor.

[@vanivanov9571]

@@boobah5643 Trench warfare was present in WW2. It didn't get rid of trench warfare, it just made trenches less impenetrable.

[@vanivanov9571]

@Magni56 Just one part, certainly... a very big one. Which is why you had to generalize all other factors to compare with its impact. Or do you think there is a single factor of equal or greater impact to that of the tank? Since this is an alternate history video, I'm also curious of your views. Do you think the development of the tank made little difference? How do you see the war developing without it?

[@imperialadvisoraremheshvau3788]

I love this but I have to ask, if the General Staff of the Armies of Saxony form a cadre of master tacticians, who viewed the Kaiser as mere ceremonial in leadership - how was the lack of victories on the Fronts the Kaiser’s debacle? His Imperial Majeste’s diplomatic coups may have turned possible catastrophes into mere palatable stalemates.

[@MaxRavenclaw]

I'm also confused on that. One one side they say the Generals are competent products of a meritocratic system, on the other they failed to recognise the importance of new technology and got their asses kicked. Also confused about how the system can be meritocratic when it is stated that the aristocracy has so much power.

[@EclipsePheniox]

I wonder where Clan Albion is in all this, hopefully we'll get DLC for the shogunate, Clan, Nordic Kingdoms and Khante

[@LtScarecrow87]

To think all of this can be traced to a few paintings...

[@BierBart12]

This is why I love art. Some artists can just tell the story of an entire universe in one or two paintings.

[@Demicleas]

Also uhhhhhhhhhh there's a game about it now.

[@DerREALpatrich]

Man after watching this i feel like a historian for some reason.

[@ImperatorIke573]

This videos will do that to you lol

[@影山平ら]

How have watched this yet? It's been like 5 minutes...

[@piotrwisniewski70]

@@影山平ら magic mate, magic Or time travel

[@vnerd3026]

@@影山平ら trustingly, they could watch templin at 2.5x speed, or they could be "first!!!!××='a!!" people

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

Wondering how 'Murica, Japan and other powers are paralleled in this universe.

[@utubrGaming]

Apparently Japan is still in a Shogunate phase, and the UK is basically pre-Anglo-Saxon, with multiple brythonic celtic clans ruling over it. The Tartars still rule Crimea as a Khanate, while the Scandinavian Vikings confederated into a Nordic Kingdom.

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

@@utubrGaming so America is going to probably be strange if even a power at all. Interesting. Thanks for the info.

[@shadowguardian3612]

@@darkhorse13golfgaming sunset invasion

[@KillerOrca]

@@darkhorse13golfgaming TESLA WEAPONRY ON EVERYTHING. LIGHTNING FOR DAYS

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

@Magni56 thanks for the info. I checked the wiki and didn't see much if anything so I appreciate it.

[@DannyHeywood]

Those Monowheel things look like the transport Mr. Garrison Invented in South Park.

[@CrazyDutchguys]

monowheels exist

[@HiimamNoah]

Next Iron Harvest: Intergalactic Communist Worker's and Peasants Federation of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.

[@fatchins9126]

nah man we are all about the Rügen Combine

[@xazelnighthaunterfanboy975]

O wiki the Saxon empire Icludes: Germany as big as in 1920, Prussia also similar to inter war regione, Czechoslovakia ( the inter war size), Benelux countries, Austria and North east Italy. In this timeline Scandinavia is united as Nordic Kingdoms and they are very Viking Style Also aparently Crimean Khanate is an Independetnt nation?

[@koshiraodo7667]

Yeah, apparently the Khanate still rules the Crimean region.

[@gluefood781]

I’ve been watching ever since 2018 and I still love the sci-fi show feel to these videos . 😌

[@W4H00]

Ive just played my second Party of scythe a few days ago and this explains a lot.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Greatly looking forward to the Saxony campaign.

[@vonorlowski659]

Greetings from Dresden! (Saxonys capital)

[@ashleycroydon9743]

Hello hows the weather stay safe 🇭🇲🔥💯

[@somerandomdude7785]

Suggestions for future uploads: Factions: The Mavericks (Mega Man) Union Aerospace Corporation (DOOM) Empire of Orlais (Dragon Age) Eldar Empire (Warhammer 40k) Militaire Sans Frontieres (Metal Gear) Dossier: Samuel Hayden (DOOM) Zero (Mega Man) Edward Von Richtofen (Call of Duty) Samus Aran (Metroid) Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil) Atlas: Raccoon City (Resident Evil) Skyrim (Elder Scrolls) Citadel (Mass Effect) Lucis (Final Fantasy) Pandora (Borderlands) High Command: 13th Black Crusade (Warhammer 40k) Battle of Twilight Gap (Destiny) Raccoon City Incident (Resident Evil) Cybertronian Civil War (Transformers) The Siege of Lordaeron (Warcraft)

[@norizontal]

This is great! Can’t wait for the next one

[@mr5353]

Thank you for adding proper captions!

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

For anyone wondering, I have literally no idea who the Emperor (Kaiser, same-difference) of Saxony (or Saxon Emperor, or maybe Emperor of the Saxons, I don’t know what the title is) is . My two guesses were Friedrich Augustus III, the real-life last King of Saxony, or Friedrich III, real-life King of Prussia and Kaiser for approximately three months before his death due to throat cancer, since his son is named Wilhelm (Wilhelm II, to be specific), in line with the video

[@juliancalvo3413]

I was expecting an analysis, not an overview. Well done, so far.

[@irhamzin1680]

I think in this timeline, both the library of Alexandria and the libraries in Baghdad still exists.

[@doubleaa763]

Saxons:we need oil... USA:No Saxons:mk

[@loafloaf3759]

Yeaaa nice Templin! Good job!

[@burakeren]

Can we see Batttletech houses here? please??

[@CaptainGrief66]

Feels a little atypical for Germany to not recognize the strategic value of modern weaponry, that's more of a British/French thing, nonetheless the world building of Iron Harvest is simply amazing Praise the Machine, for it is the future, Ad Victoria.

[@MaxRavenclaw]

Yeah, a British thing, the nation that invented the tank.

[@CaptainGrief66]

@@MaxRavenclaw That doesn't mean anything, they pioneered the idea, but the high command didn't think it would actually work, after WWI they even thought tanks would slowly fade away. And when they actually recognized the usefulness of tanks in warfare, they treated them still as trench crossing, infantry support pea shooters, not meant for tank on tank combat. The doctrinal change happened around 1935 or so.

[@CrazyDutchguys]

@@CaptainGrief66 Not long after WW2 a lot of nations thought that tanks would fade due to the effectiveness of HEATFS rounds against standard RHA armour

[@CaptainGrief66]

@@CrazyDutchguys No one at that time thought tanks would fade away after they proved to useful during the war, but during the 60' they surely realized that heavy RHA was not worth the added weight, untill both NATO and the Warsaw Pact came up with Composite Armour.

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

@@CaptainGrief66 You focus too much on minute details. The FACTS is, that military is actually perhaps the most conservative faction of any secular society. Germans were never exception. Such people are naturally very reserved about accepting new technology and unproven ideas.

[@commodoresquid4130]

So glad to see the (not Germany) faction be monarchist and not fascist or communist Heil dir im seigerkranz! Heil Kaiser dir!

[@Guciom]

Will you talk about the "Factory" in the Iron Harvest week?

[@beatthegreat7020]

That's something I would like to hear about far more than the factions. Ever since Scythe I've been so curious about what it is.

[@beatthegreat7020]

@@Marinealver, That's the right way of thinking.

[@rockjock3]

People have been criticising, where are the wheels? I realized that they're there, it's just that in this alternate universe, humanity never invented the caterpillar tread I think, nor did the Wright Bros. take off at Kittyhawk, NC. Nobody invented treaded tanks nor fixed wing aircraft as we know it in this world. That's why hydraulics from steam and diesel engines powered armored constructs that could propel themselves over rough terrain without needing train tracks nor paved roads. Large wheels are simply too unwieldy by themselves without the invention of the rubber wheel/tire, so maybe that's why we see large wheels but, no rubber tires on them. The theory is that with the lack of certain small but significant innovations, warfare and invention took a rather different path in this world.

[@yebat1984]

Hey, I like that idea. Thus they had to use mechanical legs to traverse rough terrain (explains that Rusviet mech Nakolvanya, with massive wheels and legs pushing from behind). Also explains why there aren’t any planes, but massive airships (can be seen in the campaign) still dominate the skies as it is our only method of flight.

[@TornadoADV]

"War has changed" War, war never changes.

[@TallboyDave]

Honestly, I kinda want to know what the British Empire is like in this setting.

[@boxcarz]

They're known as Clan Albion, and are more Celtic in culture than Anglo-Saxon.

[@lordodysseus]

Just watched your video from yesterday. This game looks great.

[@zsetsunaz1116]

Love it!!! I am waiting for videos of remain factions / nations

[@enclavehere.7995]

So Saxony Empire is basically the German Empire but Dieselpunk? Now I know which faction I'm playing as.

[@logic_eternal5646]

Already preordered this gem

[@alexanderwilkins1505]

This was amazing!!

[@MegaMusikMan]

Iron Harvest would make an amazing tabletop wargame.

[@hydrogenone6866]

Can't wait to play them.

[@maxschaeffner9005]

“The political system includes many seemingly democratic features intended to mask the continuation of authoritarian practices” As an American, why does this sound so familiar?

[@Schmulduar]

I smell some TDS here

[@kamilszadkowski8864]

As an American, you have no idea what you are talking about. People who lived behind the iron curtain, however, may find this very familiar.

[@rivalsplay3618]

@@kamilszadkowski8864 exactly. Most folks really think its bad. They do not know actual corruption that permeates the very culture of some of these countries. Its so sad that many who view themselves as a part of the resistance would ironically trade their freedoms away.

[@Exodon2020]

@MDM You're a Historian but fail to distinguish 19th Century Europe from 21st Century Europe?

[@rivalsplay3618]

@MDM Exactly dude. Almost any issue you find yourself having in a capitalist system can be solved with intelligence. If you dont like what people are doing with their money, go make the same and make a difference. But its much easier to complain at a 9 to five than it is to actually put yourself in a position to cause sway.

[@ElJorro]

I wish there was a wider variety of art but well done.

[@caad5258]

It's a bit of a contradiction there. Early in the video, the armistice is blamed on incompetent generalship in the face of military innovation (exactly like WW1 IRL). Thing is tho the Saxon general staff are later described as professional and competent. Also, in Iron Harvest, this staff would have armored walkers with which to break the trench warfare of WW1. So which is it? Are the general staff, competent or incompetent? I don't really see how they could lose.

[@krievondhahrknes4259]

I'm not sure if I'm right on this, but at its core the general staff are very competent, professional, and talented with what they had, but they got too cocky during the start of the war which caused them a lot because of said unexpected changes(kinda like the invasion of France during WW1). Yet they didn't lose the war more like they outcome wasn't worth the trouble since they gained less of what they wanted once the armistice was signed.

[@hangebza6625]

A new dynasty unites the small german states, but Friedrich is still the name of the Kaiser. Some things never change, not even in alternate realities

[@critical_shot9292]

THE UNION IS COMING TO TOWN BOYS

[@sleepyboi6681]

Can’t wait for more lore

[@GreatgoatonFire]

Not gonna lie, if the game devs gets around to adding them I have a hard time seeing the Nordic Kingdom being kinda goofy. Their intanty runs around with Vendel helmets and they got boat mechs.

[@kerkonig5102]

Steifmutter XD lost it there XD But that aside. Good video.

[@agbottan]

The genius mostly responsible for the unification and astonishing development of Saxonia could be... Atto Von Misbarck ?

[@marcusblackwell2372]

It kinda looks like the Caesar's Legion flag

[@hewkii7157]

Maldus Alver C was never pronounced like S in actual Latin

[@TeutonicKnight92]

So what caused Saxony’s primacy amongst the German states and particularly over Prussia and Austria?

[@PandoraKin564]

I know the game focuses on Poland, Russia and Germany I'd like to know what is going on Britain, France, and Spain/Portugal. Considering those in our timeline were the dominate powers of the planet. I find it interesting that Britain lost its European Hold and France is out of the game entirely. I also wonder if Otto von Bismark existed here, as I doubt he wouldn't have been born and experience a similar life as he single handily (More or less) for Prussian Germany for us. I imagine the British Tank still came to be, might even contrast Eastern Mechs to Western Tanks. I'm imagining a combination of Planes and Tanks in the west, Artillery and Mechs in the East. Like a tech divide of two different, but ultimately the same ideas. Legs VS Tracks. Considering Croat Nicola Tesla, I'd like to see how powerful Yugoslavia and USA is since he had influence in both the Balkans and Americas having lived in both.Yugoslavia, may be the reason Austria-Hungary isn't mentioned so far from the material we've seen of the games. They may have reformed an Eastern Rome of sorts.

[@KillerOrca]

WWII in 1920+: Saxony deploys the land-battleship Bismark to stomp all over France and Spain. Tesla...well, something tells me if we see Americans in this at all, we're going to be facing LOTS AND LOTS OF LIGHTNING.

[@PandoraKin564]

@@Babbling_Coconut Thing is without the British Empire I don't exist. Like at all. I image quite a lot of people over yonder in Eastern Europe are in the same boat for no Yugoslavia or Ottomans.

[@pieman2906]

In the Scythe expansion, the nation of Albion exists, though it looks more like the isles United under much more of a Scottish influence than English in this timeline.

[@PandoraKin564]

@@pieman2906 Ah so a more Celtic Britain? Looks Like New Zealand and Australia are Frankish then and I don't exist.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

Easstern Rome is Byzantine Empire.

[@thomasrevill7723]

Hang on, did they change the faction names because of your video, or was it something like a translation issue originally?

[@Transmissional]

The ideas really cool and I hope the game is as close to CoH with Rise of Legends style story telling...I think that could REALLY work out well.

[@benedictlogmao5814]

I wonder if Albion and Togawa are going to become playable factions in the future

[@Connor.SG-1Ring]

12:23 That kinda reminds me of the Death Korps of Krieg.

[@EccentricGentelman]

5:50 Apparently, as well as turning into a car and a giant robot, Michel Jackson has the magic powers of time and dimensional travel.

[@chrisgreen6222]

Next dossier: worf son of mogh

[@Azoth86730]

I suggest Garrett from Thief trilogy for your Dossier series.

[@Ginkoman2]

man.. i just fucking love Dieselpunk

[@DylanoRevs]

Can you do the Global Liberation Army from C&C generals?

[@kelvinchewjw]

>as both Saxony and mankind drives ever onward into the age of the machine *Terminator theme

[@katzeexmachina]

Wait a minute, tanks were one of the things that actually ended trench warfare. If they had all these mechs at the beginning of the war, why was the fighting so static?

[@Nostripe361]

I think this is the idea here is rather than trench warfare, which was not an issue in the Eastern Front of WW1 as much, the thing that messed it up was the massive amounts of soldiers that were lost to these mechas ripping into them with advanced weapons lead to any offensive moves to collapse. It could have been much like the Eastern Front in our timeline where no man's land didn't really exist but the massive death tolls and back and forth between Germany and Russia lead to the front to become as destructive and endless as the West. Really without the total collapse of Russia, WW1 eastern war could have gone on for a couple more years at least.

[@theHoldac]

Los Angeles from Blade Runner?