Jesus: Mything in Action - with David Fitzgerald (TTA Podcast 320)

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TheThinkingAtheist

TheThinkingAtheist

Күн бұрын

More and more every day, the claims of a literal, historical Jesus are coming into question. Many atheists still think the Jesus-as-God story traces back to a literal person, but author Historical researcher David Fitzgerald is among a growing number of mythicists who think that that Jesus never existed in any human form.
David joins Seth Andrews for a discussion about Jesus, the claims, the evidence (and lack of), and David's new book on the subject, "Jesus: Mything in Action Volume 1."
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@guyfawkes9951
@guyfawkes9951 7 жыл бұрын
I've finished "Nailed" and "Mything" part one. Working my way through part two. I CANNOT recommend these enough! Fantastically well written, full of fantastic information. Even amusing at times. WELL worth reading!
@MarkLipka
@MarkLipka 2 жыл бұрын
*YES!*
@judeboys6409
@judeboys6409 4 жыл бұрын
I like how ya brought up not being able to get sober with out a higher power. I was an addict. And i tried to have jesus/God help me out of it. And things actually got worse,when i gave it to God. So i took it back and did it myself. Eventually leaving the faith and becoming an atheist..
@fayecoldren-sallee5864
@fayecoldren-sallee5864 2 жыл бұрын
Getting sober is part of the reason I don't believe in God anymore. In the end I looked back on all I had learned and was like "hey I did the work!"
@watson5551
@watson5551 2 жыл бұрын
great job .... be proud of your achievements and self reliance👍
@nurserobin
@nurserobin 2 жыл бұрын
K9
@peterskove3476
@peterskove3476 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, my drinking problem went away when I quit going to those horrible meetings
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 7 ай бұрын
So, Jude, you became an atheist out of disappointment of a non responsive God and not an atheist because pure logic dictates against the existence of such an entity?
@susansteinkraus2821
@susansteinkraus2821 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite meme shows Jesus at a bar telling his fellow patrons, "This one time I got so hammered I woke up three days later in some cave."
@jeffreyphillips4182
@jeffreyphillips4182 2 жыл бұрын
That's funny 😂
@borisjurjevic5015
@borisjurjevic5015 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 🤣🤣🎈
@jestermoon
@jestermoon Жыл бұрын
Take A Moment Way too much 😂🎉🎉
@jestermoon
@jestermoon Жыл бұрын
Take A Moment Way too much 😂🎉🎉
@SecularFelinist
@SecularFelinist 7 жыл бұрын
"He died for your sins, and came back for your braaaiins!"
@michellej3140
@michellej3140 3 жыл бұрын
Braiiins!
@untheist5533
@untheist5533 3 жыл бұрын
🧟‍♀️ 🧟‍♂️ 🧟 🤣 Don’t send more cops, SEND MORE CHRISTIANS‼️ 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♂️ 👮
@TheRobdarling
@TheRobdarling 2 жыл бұрын
mmmmmmnnnn. good. Tastes like chicken.
@fayecoldren-sallee5864
@fayecoldren-sallee5864 2 жыл бұрын
Omg 🤣🤣
@franciscosustek7249
@franciscosustek7249 Ай бұрын
And moneys!...
@ding9633
@ding9633 2 жыл бұрын
"We don't need Jesus to be a myth, they need Jesus to not be a myth" ....... Well said
@Oboewan
@Oboewan 7 жыл бұрын
For the past 5 or 6 Easters, I would post a picture of Cthulhu rising from the sea and caption it, "He is Risen".
@Eliphas_Leary
@Eliphas_Leary 7 жыл бұрын
The stars are right. Fhtagn!
@edwincasimir28
@edwincasimir28 7 жыл бұрын
I'a Dagon! I'a Cthulhu! R'lyeh Cthulhu!
@Kolossus_
@Kolossus_ 6 жыл бұрын
That's amazing.
@starvethebeast6480
@starvethebeast6480 5 жыл бұрын
That's cute. You'll change your tune when it actually happens. Guaranteed. In the meantime, you might enjoy this song. Cthulhu g.co/kgs/an4eZz
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot 5 жыл бұрын
@@starvethebeast6480 When this actually happens, humans will drive a ship back and forth across Cthulhu's face untill he decides "fuck you, assholes. i'm taking my ball and going back to R'Lyeh"
@Arfipuss
@Arfipuss 7 жыл бұрын
Love this episode. Especially the statement that "bullshit is the enemy"!
@allenquartermane6134
@allenquartermane6134 5 жыл бұрын
I can't think of how I had been robbed of half my life being duped into the cult of Christianity ! So glad I have been born again into the realm of thinking for myself to be ok with being an atheist now. So I enjoy when the believers ask if I'm born again to which I can say yes with a smile and a nod!
@loki6626
@loki6626 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found your way out Allen.
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 7 ай бұрын
So,cAllen, you finally came to properly realize that Christianity has been a successful and enduring cult believed in by about one third of the world's population and became an atheist as an allergic reaction to this cult not because logic dictated otherwise about the non existence of this deity?
@allenquartermane6134
@allenquartermane6134 7 ай бұрын
@@conradbulos6164 Allergic reaction had nothing to do with it, it was studying day and night of ancient languages, anthropology, as many ancient religions as well as research into the Vatican and the three popes as well as the Khazars ( Jews ) ....logic and common sense was my guide as well as incredible knowledgeable atheist friends who were very patient and kinder to me than all the church people who threw me away! and that is what cults do when you decide to wonder off.....
@joea363
@joea363 Ай бұрын
Same here except I am married to a believer who refuses to see reason and needs the mythology to cope with everyday reality. Any dose of reason or real history is greeted with hostility.
@allenquartermane6134
@allenquartermane6134 Ай бұрын
@@joea363 I'm with you man!, My ex-wife cheated on me with a coworker while I was starting up a company and sent me a text " I don't love you anymore " and divorced me ! She was a hard core born again believer and I guess it was all in the name of Jeebus!
@babsbylow6869
@babsbylow6869 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first program my atheist butt listened to. It was nice to know as Seth says, "...not crazy...not alone" It's held up well these four years.
@jeanettecook1088
@jeanettecook1088 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading Jesus: Mything in Action part 3. Wow, what a tour de force, the detail in Mr Fitzgerald's work is fascinating! Great vid.
@Jesusisimaginary
@Jesusisimaginary Жыл бұрын
The real miracle is that people still believe in Jesus in this modern time
@dormantrabbits
@dormantrabbits 7 жыл бұрын
Seth, would you PLEASE record the audiobook version? I know there are licensing issues with the publisher, but if you could make that happen...
@thesceptic7968
@thesceptic7968 7 жыл бұрын
Easter is at the start of Spring. The jesus myth is based upon the ''dying god'' which is common worldwide. It symbolises the return of Spring after winter. Light after dark. That's it folks.
@freddiealcala2986
@freddiealcala2986 7 жыл бұрын
Fitzgerald really is entertaining to listen to. Wish he was one of my professors, I would love to be in his class.
@MAXLAWLESSIBIZA
@MAXLAWLESSIBIZA 7 жыл бұрын
If he never existed, then who invented the flip-flop?
@Hashishin13
@Hashishin13 7 жыл бұрын
The Japanese, first to wear socks and sandals too.
@davidwatson8118
@davidwatson8118 6 жыл бұрын
@@Hashishin13 Digusting thought.
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 3 жыл бұрын
Probably New Zealanders. Check the HowTo Dad channel.
@ericm6415
@ericm6415 7 жыл бұрын
It sounds like this book will be a nice condensed version of information that is explained more in depth by Ehrman, Price, and Carrier. I'm looking forward to it
@VRSVLVS
@VRSVLVS 7 жыл бұрын
For me, Easter, or rather good Friday, means just one thing: Bach's St Matthew's passion. In the Netherlands, hard-core atheists and Calvinists alike make it a tradition to go to performances of this Lutheran masterpiece around this time of the year.
@nandinibandhini
@nandinibandhini 3 жыл бұрын
Well Bobby I´ve lived 8 years in the Netherlands in a few places in fact and nobody did that. So it is not a general custom on Goede Vrijdag. Dutch are known to be not religious and is a very liberal, free country. Churches are empty except for the bible belt. (Staphorst etc.)Koninginnedag now Kings Day is known to be a binge drinking holiday and smoking pot. Greetings.
@VRSVLVS
@VRSVLVS 3 жыл бұрын
@@nandinibandhini I din't say that all of the Netherlands goes to performances of the St. Matthew's passion during good friday and easter. It's just a tradition that I, an atheist music lover, adhere to (though obviously, covid has been throwing a wrench in it the last 2 years). And even though this tradition is by no means universal, one cannot deny that Bach's passions are widely performed during this time in the Netherlands. I'm not sure why you brought up king's day, but as a committed communist and teetotaller I make it tradition to not celebrate or drink on that accursed day, but celebrate May 1 in stead.
@nandinibandhini
@nandinibandhini 3 жыл бұрын
@@VRSVLVS Thanks for your reply and clarifying that. Appreciated! Indeed, Bach´s music is very moving. I love classic music as well especially Rachmaninov :-) Being born and raised in your neighbourcountry down south, May 1st is an important holiday here as well. (Dag vd Arbeid) I only brought up King´s Day because I have never seen anything like that. No offence please but the fakery and overacting of the people was a bit over the top. The streets became trashed with glass bottles of Heiniken, public drunkness, shouting, screaming. A special kind of madness haha....Holland is known for being a clean and neat country. Oh well, maybe because I am an introvert and because we don´t have that kind of pattriotism/royalism over here. (koningsgezindheid) After covid. Altijd welkom hier Bobby. Hou je haaks en blijf gezond! Hartelijke groeten.
@MsFred58
@MsFred58 5 жыл бұрын
I tried Jesus. My brother who was depressed was a a christian who killed himself. A lot of us kepted praying and nothing happened. Now my wife is depressed and again Jesus is not helping!! I gave up on him forever, Just cant trust the fake man anymore.
@jeanettecook1088
@jeanettecook1088 3 жыл бұрын
You and your family members are not alone. After praying intensively for years, I too noticed no effect. He never showed up, except in my imagination! I finally accepted that I was the only force generating my belief... and when I stopped, again, life just went on as normal. If he was there, "Jesus" didn't "miss" me, which is no surprise.
@Tealford1
@Tealford1 2 жыл бұрын
Sad. Sorry.
@carlosibarra4041
@carlosibarra4041 Жыл бұрын
REPENT!
@jestermoon
@jestermoon Жыл бұрын
​@carlosibarra4041 idiot or, ironic?🎉 1:13
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 7 ай бұрын
Can we not stop blaming Jesus for our human failures as he was responsible for everything that happens to us? You guys who whine about Jesus keep forgetting about God the Father's precious gift to us.....absolute and unconditional freewill....which means you are totally responsible for all the decisions you make in your life! There are no good or bad things or events in anyone's life. Bad decisions are simply mistakes made thru wrong thinking not because you are necessarily evil, mistakes that can be corrected by a change in the right direction. So sins are simply human mistakes made not because you are necessarily evil and punishable with eternal damnation!
@bobnodzo535
@bobnodzo535 10 ай бұрын
We should also discuss how did people know about when Jesus went into the desert for forty days in such explicit detail? Did Jesus come back and report, hey you know what happened to me while I was in the desert????
@doctorstarbug
@doctorstarbug 7 жыл бұрын
Peeps are awesome. I buy them, open the pack, and let them sit for 2-3 days to harden up a bit. That's the way I like them. As always, my friend. Great show. My favorite podcast and along with Aron Ra, my favorite KZbin channel.
@jonathannorburg1376
@jonathannorburg1376 2 жыл бұрын
Peeps are good, but I love the egg hunt marshmallow eggs. Talk about a sugar overdose, my goodness. But nothing makes my teeth hurt like Cadbury eggs.
@WaiteDavidMSPhysics
@WaiteDavidMSPhysics 7 жыл бұрын
Only idiots think that the magic flying zombie myth was about an actual historical person.
@themaskedman221
@themaskedman221 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, because according to professional scholars, you're the idiot.
@tommyvictorbuch6960
@tommyvictorbuch6960 2 жыл бұрын
"Jesus has to come back, because he didn't get it right the first time." - Christopher Hitchens -
@eddieking2976
@eddieking2976 5 жыл бұрын
Interview starts at about 8:50 mins.
@brittnyy113
@brittnyy113 Ай бұрын
Geesh! Thank you so much!!
@teawithsu
@teawithsu 7 жыл бұрын
Recovering Addict Atheist here. At this point I can say, I didn't go in that way but, I've evolve to this. I now feel totally obligate to suppose those who supported me and, moreso, the others like me who are on their way to our 12 Step fellowship. To work the simple steps as an non-theist, we use the "Good Orderly Direction" method.
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 7 ай бұрын
Uh, bro, any kind of addiction is a sign of lack of self discipline and mental weakness that leaves you dependent on others for decisions that affect your life which may have something to do during your formative years when there was too much parental attachment and not properly weaned and taught independence and carried in your adult years and so you subsituted irresponsible drinking to replace your parents, you poor thing!!
@craiglee7993
@craiglee7993 5 жыл бұрын
Very good Seth has the voice that gets and keeps your attention.
@TheFlashinPulsar
@TheFlashinPulsar 7 жыл бұрын
we need a full episode on stories of Jesus as a teen
@unrecognizedtalent3432
@unrecognizedtalent3432 8 ай бұрын
So many gold mine finds across KZbin of David Fitzgerald! The man is amazing and a wonderful entertainer too!
@Karen-0914
@Karen-0914 6 ай бұрын
What troubles me is that although the myths are there, no one is telling us what the esoteric meaning of the myths is. The literal hides the inner meaning.
@AnAtomicInchworm
@AnAtomicInchworm 7 жыл бұрын
I tend to think of Jesus like a Muhammad or Joseph Smith type. Charismatic cult leader + time becomes myth becomes divine.
@TheNordicharps
@TheNordicharps 2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@alicetheegreet
@alicetheegreet 9 ай бұрын
You can include Joel Osteen in that list too.
@sundiver137
@sundiver137 6 жыл бұрын
A Gary Larson cartoon that wasn't released until "A Prehistory of The Far Side" depicted Yeshua-bar-JHWH, standing in the tomb pouring, a cup of coffee saying "Man. I feel like I've been dead for three days".
@nash984954
@nash984954 3 жыл бұрын
What a great way to write this type of book. A kind of how old serial stories were done, or shorts in the movie houses to add as a warmup for the main event movie. 'YOU are THERE' artistry, Good job Seth reading and good job David G, writing it this way, as it piques our curiousity as for what comes up next, that any human would or may have questions on. Excellent.
@coreydonaldson3303
@coreydonaldson3303 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting podcast/interview Seth and David !
@OnePointSix12
@OnePointSix12 7 жыл бұрын
I too am one who believes that if there ever was a walking talking Jesus, that guy is forever lost in history. At 29:40 I think David doesn't quite say enough about Robert Price's position when he quotes Price saying that everything we have about Jesus cannot be connected to a historic Jesus. Price has made it clear that the force of his argument centers on the inability to establish justification and warrant for believing both the reliability of the evolved, traditional writings as well as the connections. Also Price has handily shown that the OT is the source for all the Gospel's narrative and Paul's supposed "authentic epistles" are a second century work of Marcion and the Marcionite School.
@Starcrash6984
@Starcrash6984 7 жыл бұрын
Is it too much to ask to get Mything in Action Vols 1-3 on audiobook? I've "read" both of Fitzgerald's other books in audio form. How long will it take before I can do the same with these ones?
@btwn
@btwn 7 жыл бұрын
Selective skepticism.
@realitychannelwithtomparos8238
@realitychannelwithtomparos8238 6 жыл бұрын
This topic is one of many reasons i became an atheist.it came to the point of I didn't know what to believe anymore.
@blackice9088
@blackice9088 7 жыл бұрын
I recently spoke to someone (a preacher in a local church) who is believes the bible is "the true word of god". BUT there are sections he does not believe are true. In my opinion that means he cannot and truly should not be making that claim.
@MsDjessa
@MsDjessa 7 жыл бұрын
27:23 Something like this actually happened to a priest called John Ball. He was imprisoned because he preached that all humans are equal, or that at least nobles weren't any better than common peasants. Not a popular message in Medieval England.
@theadoresmith2777
@theadoresmith2777 3 жыл бұрын
"Bullshit is the enemy" ... says it all really.
@martiansonmaui1749
@martiansonmaui1749 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing what 2000 years of fan-fiction can do for your credibility. Seriously, the Gospels read like a cross between a Marvel comic book and a rejected Harry Potter episode.
@SummersTimeEntertainment
@SummersTimeEntertainment 7 жыл бұрын
One of your best episodes ever!
@MaryThompson63
@MaryThompson63 7 жыл бұрын
Which book is David Fitzgerald referring to when he says there is a book about how the various canons were decided at about minute 26?
@blackice9088
@blackice9088 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite Easter treat is Cadbury Easter Cream Eggs...
@dameonk
@dameonk 7 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm in the minority. I've never seen any compelling evidence that Jesus existed. Just like everything else in the bible, he's a storybook character. Do people also think Sherlock Holmes or Peter Pan were real?
@russellbrooks23able
@russellbrooks23able 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Pan is not real?
@MidlifeCrisis82
@MidlifeCrisis82 5 жыл бұрын
@@russellbrooks23able that can't be true. I've seen his peanut butter.
@tyronejones7341
@tyronejones7341 Ай бұрын
Peter Pan was Transgendered ! , because I once saw a woman' nylon stocking commercial in which Peter/Petra Pan was flying on high dressed in his/her customary short costume , but wearing seamed nylon stockings and no shoes ! , with a pretty lady's face.
@AzimuthTao
@AzimuthTao 7 жыл бұрын
I had a premise for a story that I think would make a great movie. Like Fitzgerald, my story involves a time traveller who is searching for the historical Jesus. In this case my main character is a firm believer. He goes back to the appropriate time and place but is distraught when he finds no Jesus. He then sets about preaching the sermons he knows from the gospels and with his modern knowledge is able to perform what seems like miracles. He ends up getting arrested and crucified. His time travel machine automatically transports him back to the future after 3 days in his tomb.
@AzimuthTao
@AzimuthTao 7 жыл бұрын
Argument from Imbecility.
@themaskedman221
@themaskedman221 2 жыл бұрын
You again. Why don't you listen to/read real scholars instead of amateurs like Fitzgerald?
@AzimuthTao
@AzimuthTao 2 жыл бұрын
@@themaskedman221 "real scholars" like who? You pea-brained dope.
@somewhatinformed1208
@somewhatinformed1208 Жыл бұрын
​@@themaskedman221 Because it matters to you who quotes scripture from the same book.
@themaskedman221
@themaskedman221 Жыл бұрын
@@somewhatinformed1208 What are you babbling about? I don't believe in or care about "scripture" -we are talking about history and naive people who listen to amateurs like Fitzgerald.
@Aviatrix23
@Aviatrix23 7 жыл бұрын
"Wishing people into the cornfield."!!!! BAAAHAAAA!😂🤣
@lisathrasher540
@lisathrasher540 6 ай бұрын
12 step program is what snapped my brain into this journey of atheism.
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos Ай бұрын
I'm glad you n0t a CHRISTIAN no more Albino 😊
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos Ай бұрын
I'm a 1st Hueman I didn't need 12 Steps 😊
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos Ай бұрын
Everything comes from Black the beginning of Humans/Huemans 😊
@CyberChrist
@CyberChrist 7 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the donation campaign in the description is still active. Please donate ;)
@bobbart4198
@bobbart4198 4 жыл бұрын
“ You know, I don't believe that religions are religions. No, I believe they are philosophies with some good ideas and some fuckin' weird ones.” ~ Eddy Izzard
@rockitbitz
@rockitbitz Жыл бұрын
Excellent point that the "risen" Jesus was resurrected in the state in which he died. In a similar vein, it struck me that my religious fanatic siblings are looking forward to being reunited with our granny in heaven, but presumably they are expecting to meet a wheelchair-bound old lady, crippled with arthritis and dementia. I wonder if granny was hoping to end up in heaven like that!
@druidriley3163
@druidriley3163 Жыл бұрын
It caused cognitive dissonance with early Christians. When they asked basically, how will our rotted bodies be raised from the dead? Who wants to live forever in that condition? Early Christian preachers had to quickly cover up that gaffe with "god will give you new bodies!" which still caused problems when Jesus' body supposedly disappeared. Er, why didn't he leave his body behind if god was going to give him a new one?
@nonoozabletodogmaisaiah4577
@nonoozabletodogmaisaiah4577 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed the abruptness of the Jesus passage in Josephus when I first read it in my late twenties. It was an obvious abrupt interruption. The Passage would not have suffered any loss had the statement about the Christ not been there at all. I quit school in the eighth grade and that was obvious. Bible students who encounter this, be honest. That statement in Josephus is not at all necessary for the flow of the passage. Burn.
@MadiLush
@MadiLush 7 жыл бұрын
I was definitely subscribed to this channel. But today I noticed I wasn't anymore. I wondered why I wasn't seeing new videos.
@alicetheegreet
@alicetheegreet 9 ай бұрын
Czar KZbin be unsubscribing people from channels they don't want to pay.
@jamesstaplesv
@jamesstaplesv 2 жыл бұрын
Wait , what about the atmosphere and jet stream and Aquafirs ??
@billathwal9887
@billathwal9887 7 жыл бұрын
When's the audiobook ??
@agronoxdt
@agronoxdt 7 жыл бұрын
Have your videos been demonetized??
@Iamnosey
@Iamnosey 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your loss of a friend. ❤
@doogandoggin2571
@doogandoggin2571 Жыл бұрын
As a child I could not stand reading novels/fiction. I loved science and history articles, i could appreciate news articles. Hell, I even read a physiology text book one summer for fun. This explains why I was never compelled to read the bible. I don't like magicians either. I am not entertained by deception. On the 12 step thing, I finally quit abusing myself when I "let go of god". That s#it just caused shame and guilt, it is so harmful.
@teawithsu
@teawithsu 7 жыл бұрын
I've heard "money changers" mentioned before. Was this not also involving the slaughter of animals in the church (basement)?
@PsyTechnical
@PsyTechnical 7 жыл бұрын
wish you would increase the audio quality to 720p so that we have higher audio quality even though I know it's radio quality it definitely could be more clear please
@jamesleighdavis138
@jamesleighdavis138 6 жыл бұрын
I believe that Jesus was a real person just as much as I believe that Achilles or Odysseus or Beowulf were real. The evidence for each is about the same.
@themaskedman221
@themaskedman221 2 жыл бұрын
That's because you're historically illiterate.
@cervantes5958
@cervantes5958 3 ай бұрын
I found that using the twelve steps that people's lives became all about NA/CA/AA. It's replacing one addiction for another, admittedly a less destructive addiction but an addiction nonetheless. Just my opinion.
@danielpack7675
@danielpack7675 7 жыл бұрын
Btw, it was very uncommon for Roman governors to bring their legal wives with them to their provinces when assigned to them. Pilate's wife might have tagged along, but that's a highly suspect claim. It was considered bad form to take your wife with you to the provinces, a tradition that carried over from the Republic. A very dangerous province like Judea would be even less likely to have the governor's wife tag along.
@QuestionThingsUseLogic
@QuestionThingsUseLogic Жыл бұрын
Good point!
@fritzhaselnuss7852
@fritzhaselnuss7852 2 жыл бұрын
stuff like this never gets old...truth and facts dont change over time, thats why ^^ We simply get MORE truth and facts if we keep following the trail
@MrPaulatz
@MrPaulatz 7 жыл бұрын
I want to hear more about 12 step programs
@lyndaanneshop
@lyndaanneshop 2 жыл бұрын
"Mything In Action" Hilariouth! I love it. Very clever.
@salamandradehielo
@salamandradehielo 7 жыл бұрын
13:35 what's the name of the author he mentions? "Raphael Lazador"?
@msqared80
@msqared80 7 жыл бұрын
Big fan, can't wait to read it! Hey David, when are you guys coming down here again for EFBC fundraising? I would love to coordinate another heathen support troop...
@jonas5689
@jonas5689 7 жыл бұрын
I find the whole argument kinda pointless. If there was a man behind the myth then that man was so far removed and different from the stories that they might as well be about someone else. Was the first christian cult leaders name Jesus (or Joshua, Jeshua, whatever), that's what this all comes down to.
@cynic150
@cynic150 2 жыл бұрын
My thing in action!
@leebennett4117
@leebennett4117 7 жыл бұрын
Even if he Did exist he looked nothing like the Image on the milk Carton,He was a Middle Eastern Man,Look at People in the Middle East today that's how he would have looked,Images of Jesus have been created to be more appealing to Western eyes
@sicdavid6292
@sicdavid6292 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus in greek translates to savior and Christ means messiah. Who names their kid savior messiah?
@TheRetroPerspective
@TheRetroPerspective 7 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand the arguments against comparing Jesus to Horus, people are acting as if that wasn't just one example of many incredibly similar prophet figures spanning many religions. Zeitgeist didn't just say "yeah, Jesus was actually Horus"
@gartackpsdav4984
@gartackpsdav4984 6 жыл бұрын
I have to ask, was the title In any way inspired by the series of books written by Robert Aspirin?
@michaelannen4168
@michaelannen4168 2 жыл бұрын
Starts @9:20
@JollyJoel
@JollyJoel 7 жыл бұрын
The Amazing Atheist, now TJ Kirk, is claming that the word Atheist is considered a "hate word" according to KZbin's new policy of what should be in a KZbin account name. Is this true? He changed his name from The Amazing Atheist to TJ Kirk and tried changing his name back to The Amazing Atheist but it wouldn't let him.
@Questron71
@Questron71 7 жыл бұрын
Is there maybe a "only one change in X days" policy active instead of certain words being taboo? The help says if you change too often you may have to wait until the third last change (including the activation of a google+ account) is at least 90 days past. I don't know if he only had the two names (the amazing atheist and TJ Kirk, but if he maybe had a misspelled attempt in between them and had to join google+ to get the name changed in the first place that COULD make 3 "changes" as KZbin counts them.
@Chamelionroses
@Chamelionroses 7 жыл бұрын
You Tube newer policies are messing everyone up. I keep seeing videos on this.
@dormantrabbits
@dormantrabbits 7 жыл бұрын
Urs F, TJ said the message he got said the title he tried didn't meet youtube's standards. He could be lying, but that's what he claims it said.
@JollyJoel
@JollyJoel 7 жыл бұрын
@Urs F, that sounds more like it.
@Berbs73
@Berbs73 7 жыл бұрын
Jolly Joel I hate to say it, but I think he's lying a bit. Money makes people do stuff like that.
@walternullifidian
@walternullifidian 2 жыл бұрын
It was Moses who had to keep his hands up for the Israelites to win.
@CharlesHuckelbery
@CharlesHuckelbery 2 жыл бұрын
Well done and thanks 😊
@kbora3581
@kbora3581 7 жыл бұрын
The first Christian Church or the first See of Christianity was the Hagia Sophia 532 to 537 commissioned by Justinian and Theodora, built and designed by Africans, in Istanbul Turkey. The first printed Hebrew bible to come into existence was in 1475 The first printed New Testament came out in 1516 written by Desiderius Erasmus known as the Novum Instramentum.
@celiamoreno5117
@celiamoreno5117 2 жыл бұрын
Many believe that the bible is infallible, as it is the word "of god", this is obviously not true for several reasons: First, the bible was written by multiple authors and its contents were approved in two Councils: The Synod of Hippo (383), and of Carthage (397) - to determine which were the documents that were to be integrated into the Bible, in order to consolidate the Roman Empire that needed a political, religious and territorial unity, to maintain his power. It was the ecclesiastical authorities of the time who decided which books were to constitute the Bible, and which were to be excluded, obviously taking into account their own interests. Second, there are many contradictions in the bible, for example: see Genesis 6:19 versus Genesis 7: 1-3 is Noah told to board alone or with the animals?; see 2 Samuel 24:1 versus 1 Chronicles 21:1 is it the devil or is it God who gives you the instructions? Regarding the death of Judas, he committed suicide by hanging himself Matthew 27: 5-6 or had an accident in Acts 1: 18-19. In Exodus 20:13 versus Leviticus 20: 9, the commandment is established not to kill, or does God command you to kill? This evidently indicates that who wrote the Bible were not perfect beings, or omnipotent, or omniscient, or omnipresent, if not, they would not have made all these mistakes. Third, the Bible make crimes apologies and at the same time, incites to the crime of public stoning for using divination or spiritism see Leviticus 20:27, for not being a virgin see Deuteronomy 22:20-21, for being an adulterer see Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10, makes the apology for rape see Genesis 19:6; of human sacrifice see Judges 11:30-39; of slavery Exodus 21, Leviticus 25:44-46, Ephesians 6:5-9, Titus 2:09; of the rapture: Numbers 31:35, Deuteronomy 20:10-13; to slaughter, child and animal abuse 1 Samuel 15:2, Joshua 6:21-27 and the list would be very long. This indicates that this book could be used for good or evil, depending on interpretation. Fourth, its application is too discretionary, it depends on who reads or interprets the Bible, their opinion, their mental state, their general knowledge, their prejudices, beliefs, analytical skills, etc., which leaves a great margin for subjectivity, manipulation and error. All this, place the person at the mercy of the priest, pastor, or ecclesiastical authority, giving him too much power over his beliefs, his behaviors, his understanding and his life. Fifth, it must be concluded that the woman and man of the 21st century cannot be literally guided by this book reconstructed some 1700 years ago, when science and general knowledge were in their infancy, and where ignorance and prejudice predominated, caused by fear of the unknown. Everything Wrong With Genesis 1 in the Bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/roiyknpqecZsn6M
@JM-ot8ux
@JM-ot8ux 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it's very concise and informative.
@stevenbrown6277
@stevenbrown6277 Жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid when some people (including my family!) would have a little ivory-colored plastic Jesus to place on the dashboard of their cars. Some people had a little plastic Virgin Mary statuette on their car dashboard. These plastic figurines were to protect people when driving.
@bonnie43uk
@bonnie43uk 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, mything in action, sounds like someone with a lisp :-) Love David Fitzgerald, great podcast :-)
@BFjordsman
@BFjordsman 7 жыл бұрын
bonnie43uk its plagiarized from a Robert Asprin book series
@msqared80
@msqared80 7 жыл бұрын
Really? The exact same title? (No.) You can't plagiarize or copyright a THEME... ;)
@YouHolli
@YouHolli 7 жыл бұрын
It's spelled "lithp".
@guyfawkes9951
@guyfawkes9951 7 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Many, MANY books, movies, plays, songs, paintings and poems share TITLES. That is NOT plagiarism. "Plagiarism" is a legal term that refers to taking entire works or the ideas behind works and copying them. Titles are NOT included in this.
@troyevitt2437
@troyevitt2437 7 жыл бұрын
He is Darthshuah..he's more Messiah than Man....twisted and evil. What about Mary Magdalene, is she alright? It seems in your anger, you killed her..."Jesus wept"-John 11:35
@nandinibandhini
@nandinibandhini 3 жыл бұрын
´´Alledgedly´´ she was pregnant with Jesus child and took off to France. In the gnostic Gospel of Philip there are references that Jesus kissed her a lot... so who knows??
@troyevitt2437
@troyevitt2437 3 жыл бұрын
@@nandinibandhini I'm obviously referring to Star Wars.
@nandinibandhini
@nandinibandhini 3 жыл бұрын
@@troyevitt2437 Hahaha OMG! Facepalm. I didn´t know that. I am such a fool. Greetings.
@magister343
@magister343 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus's teachings mostly align very well with the Pharisees of the House of Hillel, but the time in which he is presumed to have been teaching was during the short period when the other Pharisees from the House of Shammai were dominant. Shammai's followers were more legalistic and more prone to hypocrisy.
@van3363
@van3363 2 жыл бұрын
I had to high five my youngest daughter, she was about 13 and some religious people knocked on the door. They asked her if she'd found Jesus and without missing a beat she replied yes, he was behind the sofa the whole time, who'd have thought. Lol
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos Ай бұрын
Albino ur cat look like it found something 😊
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos
@WhitePeopleAreAlbinos Ай бұрын
JESUS n0t real 😊
@sulongenjop7436
@sulongenjop7436 5 ай бұрын
How did David know better than the Bible or Roman archive?
@dersitzpinkler2027
@dersitzpinkler2027 7 жыл бұрын
I want to call in to the show but I also don't want to wake up that early.
@idio-syncrasy
@idio-syncrasy 2 жыл бұрын
Good pod cast.
@dieudebois
@dieudebois 2 жыл бұрын
He had a radio career? With a voice like that?
@lcvamp242
@lcvamp242 7 жыл бұрын
Josephus and the Antiquities is a great name for a do-wop band.
@brianvance1178
@brianvance1178 6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of “lost gospels” did you know that there was a gospel of Judas?
@starvethebeast6480
@starvethebeast6480 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, and I just came across something very interesting yesterday. Jesus quotes the Apocrypha in the book of Matthew; It is largely thought that the Apocryphal books of the "original" cannon were removed for "good cause" (that perhaps they we not the inspired word of the Lord God). However, the Geneva bible of 1560 and the King James 1611 the book Matthew, chapter 23 and verse 37 has margin notes referring to the book of Esdras, thereby confirming the validity of this book and perhaps the many of the other apocryphal texts that have been removed over time. What's more, is Jesus is predicted in 2 Esdras, the 7th chapter and verses 26-29. Conveniently, these margin notes are absent in nearly all other modern versions. What do these books contain that would threaten the power structure and challenge the status quo? You might even say there is a "conspiracy" to hide the truth. The coolest part is, I was able to confirm it with my 1611. I've heard that the original cannon had 88 books, but I've also heard there may be up to 50 texts that where excluded over time. The 1611 has 14 extra books more than the standard 66 book cannon, totaling in 80 books. So if you add the acts of Peter, Tomas, Paul, John and Andrew, you get 85. Then throw in Enoch (which was also quoted by the apostles), the book of Judas, and I've heard rumors of a book of Mary; that would make 88 if it exists... Watch "Did Jesus quote the Apocrypha?" on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4HEo4J5Yriias0
@frankallen3634
@frankallen3634 3 жыл бұрын
How dare anyone talk badly about my lord and savior...PEEPS!!!!
@Kolopsych
@Kolopsych 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the titles in the”Myth” fiction series
@taylorzagar2572
@taylorzagar2572 7 жыл бұрын
The story of jesus in the new testemate was borrowed from the book of enoch
@TheTwick
@TheTwick 7 жыл бұрын
The current Bible comes from the night table in every hotel and motel room (via Gideons).
@JM-ot8ux
@JM-ot8ux 2 жыл бұрын
As Sully would say, _Oh. My. God._ The best evidence for evolution is the Bible itself.
@jmbw3736
@jmbw3736 6 жыл бұрын
Many people forget that the apostle men did not know how to read and write. Many were fisher men whose life is fishing and they were not educated. How can you write a book when you do not know how to write. Also the stories were supposed to have been written 60 to 70 years after Jesus death. If I tell a story today, the story will be different 60 years from now. Many stories were told by word of mouth.
@evoeightyci
@evoeightyci 2 жыл бұрын
Always found it interesting that the Romans were very good at keeping records. Yet, there is not a mention of a rabble rouser named Jesus. One might think that a man who apparently caused so much trouble in his time would have at least gotten a paragraph in some Roman's text of the day. Not a one. Even the Great Constantine built the Arch of Constantine shows 0 Christian motifs on it. When it was built in 315 CE one would pass through it and see the Giant statue of...Apollo.
@QuestionThingsUseLogic
@QuestionThingsUseLogic Жыл бұрын
And interestingly it was Roman royalty that wrote the entire NT and Josephus!
@druidriley3163
@druidriley3163 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Constantine the Great credited his famous victory at Battle of Chrysopolis to assistance from his favorite god Sol Invictus. He even put an image of him on his arch. No mention of Jesus or the cross.
@bobnodzo535
@bobnodzo535 10 ай бұрын
What about John the Baptist he was a product of God as well as Elizabeth was with child well beyond her fertile years that’s a topic to be discussed furthermore
@gary795
@gary795 3 жыл бұрын
Prior to listening, I thought “Mything” was a typo. I thought the title was intended to read “My thing in Action”. 🤔🤪
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 7 жыл бұрын
LUCIFER'S TESTICLES!!! XD ... Wait... Jesus is the Lich King?
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