Spray Cabinets with Fuji T70 with 2 Qt. Pressure Pot / Paint Cabinet with Sherwin Williams Emerald

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How to spray cabinets with an HVLP turbine paint sprayer and Fuji T70 gun plus a 2 quart pressure pot spray rig. Learn how to spray primer and Sherwin Williams gray Emerald Urethane cabinet and trim enamel in this easy tutorial. Hit me with a thumbs up if you like the topic, and please subscribe to the Thoughtful Woodworker - but only if you like woodworking, spray finishing and leather upholstery topics!
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@rodpotts2666 Жыл бұрын

That Emerald paint is pretty thick and drys hard. I like really like it for cabinets and furniture.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I think I like the Emerald too.

@BSCGDC 7 ай бұрын

I watched this video a few months ago and I ordered a 1.8 tip right away. I just got a chance to use it today (it was all clear finished until now) and it made a huge difference. Before, I was using a 1.4 and thinning my paint far too much. Thanks for the video!

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 7 ай бұрын

Glad it worked out!

@marvincarle1313 Жыл бұрын

I really like the cart you made for your Fuji spray system.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Жыл бұрын

Thanks! The cart has been working great.

@pinklaura1961 9 ай бұрын

Looks like that pressure pot is a lifesaver!

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 9 ай бұрын

It does help with refilling less often. I also like how you can spray at any angle. Thanks

@jwill9877 5 ай бұрын

I have the 3m system that allows the fuji to spray upside down. Its definitely very convenient. Emerald paint is legit. It takes a full 3 to 4 weeks for the smell to go away but thats when its fully cured. I painted my trim and cabinets with this. Nice video

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 5 ай бұрын

I have the 3m PPS as well. It's a nice system, but I use the 2 qt. Pressure pot more than anything else for paint. Thanks!

@jwill9877 5 ай бұрын

@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker I can definitely see how that would come in handy for larger jobs. It's nice to not have to stop and refill.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Жыл бұрын

Some techniques worth trying when painting cabinets.

@gcaflyer 10 ай бұрын

Love the cart for your system. Do you happen to have a plan? Or could you do a short video on just the cart? I have the Q5 and have been trying to come up with something similar. Thank you.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! You can get plans for my sprayer cart in the June 2023 issue (#272) of Popular Woodworking magazine. Best of luck!

@jaykepley5238 Жыл бұрын

Nice video. Thanks! 🙏🖖

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jay!

@Mr1fingersalute 6 ай бұрын

Looks great! I just picked up a harbor freight 5 stage turbine for a really good deal and mutilated some trim in my house with it😂 I was an auto body painter for 27 years and have been painting for about 38 years altogether too so……. Feeling a little defeated lol. Hvlp turbines are a different animal though and definitely require a learning curve I now see and precise tuning. I could not figure out how to decrease the fan size on this gun until after the damage was done, that was my biggest problem, plus I put it on waaaay too wet. I’m also spraying Emerald and using a 1.8 but only thinned it 5% with M1 retarder. I think the viscosity was ok though, but I just jumped right in without too much tinkering because I was anxious to get it done…( “haste makes waste” ) Worst part about is I’ve got a pile of high end spray guns that I accumulated over the years but only one or two with bigger nozzle sets. I was doing fine with them other than the excessive overspray and having to run 135ft of air hose from my garage and through the windows of my house lol🤦🏻‍♂️ Great video though and I feel inspired now to give it one more shot now that I realize where I went wrong. If I fail, back to conventional spraying😅

@albertsilerio8639 4 ай бұрын

🎉great job

@erickdanielsson6710 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Watching your spraying videos, good information. New to spraying here, I have a Turbine spray system. Have you considered making a video, 'Cleaning techniques', for oil, , water based coating . Many videos out there on applying paints, lacking cleaning the systems.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Жыл бұрын

Thanks Erick, I have a gun cleaning video... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zma5fYGXmMZobLM The only difference between oil and water base would be the thinner you use. For water based paint use hot soapy water. Denatured alcohol for shellac, etc. Thanks for the suggestion.

@TheeAnonymousTrader 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful video My question is,is getting a beautiful smooth finish dependent on the type of paint you use or your spraying technique?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! I suppose it's a little of everything from the sprayer, to the technique, and less so the paint product. Any urethane modified paint should spray nicely (when thinned to suit your sprayer). Paint that's designed for trim and cabinets will hold up better, and look more professional than regular latex. The right aircap set makes a difference as well. Best to you.

@billmckinzie 6 ай бұрын

My advice is like everything else, prep is key. You must sand the surface and use a filler to fill imperfections and sand some more. Then begin this technique.

@carlpetitt2241 16 күн бұрын

Have you tried the SW Gallery Series paint? it's designed to spray so no thinning required, and dries and ready to sand and re-coat in less than 1 hour. and you can use the gallery series primer which also is designed for spraying and dries just as fast. Meets KCA standards too! I used to use the SW Kem Aqua series, and the Gallery series is very similar but unlike the Kem Aqua, the Gallery Series is usually available at regular SW retail locations (but I recommend calling first bc sometimes a given location may not have the sheen you're looking for. I ran into this once and had to drive to a different store to get the right sheen, but still able to get it and spray same-day). One potential drawback is that it doesn't use a binder, the bond it makes is purely mechanical, so you have to be mindful of runs and drips on vertical surfaces. But I haven had any issues with that so far. All the best!

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 16 күн бұрын

No I haven't tried the Gallery paint yet. The marketing made it look so glossy, I never gave it a chance. I'm starting to use my Fuji D6 turbine, so hopefully no paint will need to be thinned in the future, unless I decide to. The Emerald dries pretty quickly too, but maybe not fully in an hour. Thanks for the info.

@charlesnguyen1462 10 ай бұрын

Novice to spraying cabinets: I’m using Fuji minimite4 with Fuji 2qt pressure pot and 1.8mm tip. Spraying SW emerald over SW stain block primer. Any tips on how to avoid runs in corners top corners of cabinets? I didn’t have any runs with the primer. Thanks

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 10 ай бұрын

Hi Charles, it sounds like you have a nearly identical setup as I do. To prevent runs, decrease fluid output by turning the fluid knob clockwise. Spraying 2 light coats is usually better than one heavy coat. If you do get a run, just brush it out. It will look fine after you scuff sand and spray the second coat. Best of luck!

@charlesnguyen1462 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! I will reduce flow. I think I need to be more patient :)

@JoeyJig 11 ай бұрын

Great video! You make it look so easy, and the finish looks great. I see that you have a link to the Fuji Mini-Mite 4. I am wondering if you have sprayed with it and if it is adequate for the work you are doing here? Do you think SW Emerald or BM Advance would have to be thinned too much for the 4 stage turbine. I appreciate the effort you put into producing this video.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Joey! I consider a 4 and 5 stage just about equal. Only 0.5 psi difference. So you will definitely be okay. Thanks!

@JoeyJig 11 ай бұрын

Thank you!@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker

@charlesnguyen1462 10 ай бұрын

Great video. How many coats of primer do you recommend? Thanks.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Charles. I use one coat of primer, and two coats of paint.

@shaynesabala 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I wish I would had come across this when I started out. I have an Earlex system and the hardest thing for me is thinning the paint correctly. I have played with it a lot and still don’t feel confident that I know how to get the paint thinned correctly to do the job the best can be done. One cool thing I found is if you use a glass panel to check your spray pattern you can dial it in very close. Any tips on how to get the paint thinned to the correct point?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 4 ай бұрын

Use a #4 Ford viscosity cup. The thinned paint should flow out in about 45 seconds. If it takes longer than 55-60 seconds, it's too thick for HVLP sprayers. Thanks and good luck!

@ianrose2823 27 күн бұрын

Did you water down the primer and topcoat with the 1.8 ? Thanks.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 27 күн бұрын

Yes I thinned the primer about 10 percent until it flows through a #4 Ford viscosity cup in 45 seconds or so. Thanks

@morishij 7 ай бұрын

Hello! I appreciate your videos as I’m trying to learn how to paint cabinets and trim work. You mentioned you like the air pot because it allows you to hold the gun and spray at any angle. Would using the 3m pot system accomplish the same thing? Or with the heavier paint products, does the pressure pot make a big difference getting the paint to push through the gun?Thank you!

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 7 ай бұрын

The 3m PPS system also allows you to spray upside down, as long as you get the hard plastic cup with pressure tube. Not quite as maneuverable as the Fuji pressure pot, but still a good way to go

@chipporter9248 7 ай бұрын

Great video. I Make built ins a few time a year and have always been afraid of spraying shelf pin holes for fear of the pins not fitting afterwards. I'm guessing you are able to make the paint thin enough that its OK?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 6 ай бұрын

I had the same concern. Yet after spraying with primer and two coats of paint, the 1/4" shelf pins fit perfectly. Thanks.

@chipporter9248 6 ай бұрын

@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker That will save me a lot of time because I have been painting before drilling and assembly. Thanks!

@LordHog 5 ай бұрын

Can the hose from the pressure pot to the T70 spray gun be extended? Say up to 15-20 ft?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 5 ай бұрын

I imagine you could extend the paint hose. However that would mean more paint to clean out, kind of like cleaning an airless sprayer. I usually just set the pressure pot on the floor. Good luck with it.

@lonlonf 4 ай бұрын

I stained my kitchen cabinets with a lacquer base stain and would like to paint it white. Can I use the same primer you used in this video or an oil base primer before using the Urethane Trim Enamel?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 4 ай бұрын

The oil based primer will be better for covering up stain, or any existing finish. Water based primer works fine on raw wood. Thanks

@justcruisin109 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips on viscosity and nozzle size. Do you have any thoughts on hvlp vs airless with a fine finish tip? My limited experience is that you don’t have to worry about thinning or needle/nozzle sizes with the airless but I haven’t painted much as I said. Cheers

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Жыл бұрын

An airless is quicker and you don't have to thin the paint much. Think painting a house or staining a fence. A HVLP sprays a finer finish with less overspray. You need to thin paint slightly for HVLP equipment. Either setup will require a carefully selected nozzle or air cap set for the project at hand. Thanks.

@ApexWoodworks 11 ай бұрын

@justcruisin109, I believe you're confusing airless with air-assisted airless systems. Airless systems are not designed for, nor can they spray a high quality finish that would be acceptable for cabinets and furniture. They're designed for spraying walls, fences, and such surfaces where a somewhat rough finish is pretty much the standard. On the other hand, air-assisted airless systems (AAA) are made specifically for laying down a high quality finish on virtually any surface, and they do so very well. They are dramatically more expensive, with a decent system running you roughly $5,000 + the cost of a high-performance air compressor. And that's where turbine HVLP systems come into play; they're less than half the cost of a complete AAA system, and as Willy's so aptly demonstrated, they can lay down a pro-grade finish. I hope this helps clarify things for you.

@billmckinzie 6 ай бұрын

In my experience, HVLP does not put out paint at as high a rate as airless. You have a little more time and reduced runs. It is geared for smaller jobs vs say rooms, ceilings, etc.

@2010jimn 3 ай бұрын

I like the trick of using a remote switch. Does that just switch the outlet receptacle off and on or does it remotely control the on/off for the turbine unit?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 3 ай бұрын

It's a little pigtail that you plug the turbine into, and the remote turns the power on and off. fujispraysystems.com/accessories/ Thanks

@danielbacon4821 11 ай бұрын

Great vid as always! Curious about your cleaning method for the pot... can you leave product in there for days/weeks? How do you clean the product delivery hose between the pot and gun? Thanks.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 11 ай бұрын

Thanks! I clean the pot after each use. Just scrub it out. I was amazed how easy it was to clean. Running warm water through the hose was enough to clean it. Best to you.

@stephenrioles7554 6 ай бұрын

Are you thinning your primer? I'm having trouble spraying primer. I have 1.8 tip with t70 Fuji Q5. All of the data sheets on all the primers i have looked at (oil and water based) says not to thin "do not reduce". How are you setting your gun for primers? Thanks for your time, very informative video.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 6 ай бұрын

Yes I thin water based primer until it pours through a #4 Ford viscosity cup in 45 seconds or so. Usually this means thinning about 10% with water. Good luck!

@billmckinzie 6 ай бұрын

@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Thank you this was my question as well. I am writing up your procedure into a word document.

@cosh277 4 ай бұрын

What’s the psi you have your pot set to.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 4 ай бұрын

The Fuji 2qt pressure pot is a little different than a conventional one. No compressor required, and it runs off your 4 or 5 stage turbine. So it operates around 8-9 psi. Thanks

@darrill 6 ай бұрын

A very useful video for a beginner like me. I noticed your cabinets do not have backs. Do you paint them separately? If they are attached to the cabinet how does this affect the order things are sprayed in and how do you avoid blowback? Thanks,

@ThoughtfulReviews-b5s 6 ай бұрын

Yes, I specifically leave cabinet backs off when spraying to avoid blowback and overspray. Painting the backs separately is the way to go, if that's an option. In this case I lacquered the maple plywood back panels for a two-tone look. If the backs are already installed, you just deal with the inevitable blowback. Thanks.

@darrill 6 ай бұрын

@@ThoughtfulReviews-b5s Thanks for the reply. Just about to start a new kitchen so I can plan based on your comments.

@tilldogg1432 5 ай бұрын

From your experience, are you able to get the same results with a Fuji MiniMite 4 turbine? That's what I have along with a T70 gun and a 1.8 air cap. I was seeing on some forums how some people have had mixed results either with orange peel or not getting the paint to come out at all. Just curious before I go and start testing with this paint as it's not the cheapest paint lol.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 5 ай бұрын

You'll be fine with a 4 stage. I never run my Q5 full blast. Just thin until the paint flows from a #4 Ford viscosity cup in 45 seconds. If you get orange peel, switch to a 1.5mm tip. 1.8mm puts on more paint, and handles thicker material. However, a 1.5mm tip sprays a finer finish. Thanks.

@jwill9877 5 ай бұрын

I just sprayed exterior emerald rain refresh with a mini mite 4. I had to thin the paint and I used a 2.0 tip. rain refresh is thicker than the emerald he used in this video. I've used as small as a 1.3 to spray the finish he had. It will spray a nice finish

@pinklaura1961 9 ай бұрын

Also, is it self leveling?

@蓉蓉庄 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. But I have a question do you thin down the primer as well? Or use straight out from can?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Жыл бұрын

Yes I thinned the primer about 10 percent with water. Thanks!

@rrrrkoop2776 Ай бұрын

would the air pot work for a Fuji 2203G Semi-PRO 2 - Gravity HVLP Spray System,

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Ай бұрын

Hello. No the Fuji 2 qt. Pressure pot requires a 4 or 5 stage turbine. Thanks

@RodneyKoop Ай бұрын

@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker thank you

@Grzegorz-i7g 3 ай бұрын

I use a pressure pot and it is great but it is no good if you want to spray thick primer that doesn't have power

@stevenbachman5507 8 ай бұрын

How is the coat hanger attached to the door? Can you paint both sides without reattaching the hanger.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 8 ай бұрын

Small hooks are screwed into the edge of the door. You can paint the entire door at once. Just position the holes on top for upper doors, and on bottom for lower doors, and you'll never see them.

@pinklaura1961 9 ай бұрын

Question, is this your favorite cabinet paint for bathrooms and kitchens?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 9 ай бұрын

So far I'm happy with the Emerald Urethane Enamel, but I think several Urethane modified Enamel trim and cabinet paints could work.

@alexsoria5097 8 ай бұрын

How you pick up the nose

@johnmansfield4468 9 ай бұрын

Do you repair the holes in the top of the cabinet doors?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 9 ай бұрын

No I actually don't. I specifically make sure they're drilled in the top of the upper drawers and the bottom of the lower drawers, and you never see them. Thanks.

@pdwinc.1077 3 ай бұрын

I decided to try the extreme block waterborne this time and found that it was rolling up on the sandpaper after drying all night. Have you encountered this?

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 3 ай бұрын

No, that sounds awful! I usually use Sherwin Williams water based primer, and it dries fast above 60 degrees. Thanks

@spkendrick 8 ай бұрын

I see some people spraying slower, do you have your fluid nozzle almost closed or wide open?. When i spray slow like this i get runs or to much build up.

@acarlos744 4 ай бұрын

Where I can get the fluid hose I have an Apollo

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 4 ай бұрын

Maybe Amazon or Fuji direct? Thanks

@ILruffian 2 ай бұрын

Do you end up with orange peel pushing out a 1.8? I never had good luck with HVLP, even my 5 stage Apollo with pressure pot. Always needed those big tips (orange peel) or had to thin way behind the TDS. With airless, however, my stuff comes out like glass.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 2 ай бұрын

My favorite aircap set for cabinet paint has become a 1.5mm set. No orange peel, and I only have to thin 10%. I have both airless and turbine based HVLP systems, and I don't use airless at all for cabinet work. Depending on the paint, it might lay down ok on horizontal panels, but I feel like I get a much finer finish with HVLP. Thanks

@ILruffian 2 ай бұрын

@@TheThoughtfulWoodworker Thanks for your prompt and detailed reply. Yes, 1.5 seems to be the sweet spot. After bad results with Target Coatings and SW Gallery, I went to Envriolak. Stuff is absolutely amazing. Like glass out of airless (308 or 306 tips) when sprayed flat. Agreed that vertical is a challenge. I added thickener, which makes it easier. Apparently, the Envirolak 800 has amazing vertical hang out of the can. Need to give that a try next.

@TheThoughtfulWoodworker 2 ай бұрын

@@ILruffian Nice! Sounds like you have a plan. Thanks