What It Takes to Drive the BRZ in Winter - POV Owner Review

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[@augusli9716]

pov drives are like asmr for the eyes

[@tlf361]

augus li And ears...

[@imoffendedthatyouareoffended]

i hate asmr videos but god damn pov drives are awesome as hell.

[@TheArchitect4K]

#ItsTrue

[@hendrahendra]

Snow driving a brz Odometer reading: 50,000 Miles Actual distance driven: 15,000 Miles.

[@TheTopher]

True story

[@0xsergy]

no ways, it's gotta read the speed sensors off the front tires. i doubt it's a direct transmission hookup.

[@hendrahendra]

@@0xsergy be prepared to be dissapointed. If you ever done a burnout or do a wheelspin in snow/wet road, you'll see that the speedo/odometer goes up with the driven wheel. Speed sensors 99% of the time goes somewhere in the gearbpx casing. Some trucks have it in the rear differential somewhere.

[@0xsergy]

@@hendrahendra lol, that's ridiculous. I don't own a modern car but I figured they used abs speed sensors by 2021. At least all my bikes pull the speed off the front tire..and they're old

[@--LZ---]

@@0xsergy Yes but then you wheelie the thing for more than 30 seconds and "officer I was doing a wheelie at 0 kph" lol.

[@TedwardDrives]

Stop making me want one....

[@TheTopher]

It’s kind of ideal, isn’t it 😏

[@mythicalducky]

I loved mine until it got totaled about 4 months ago (I'm looking for another one if that says anything) I'm thinking about buying a 2017 that's still at a dealership new

[@v.witlox560]

@@mythicalducky that sucks :/

[@infernus8926]

same lol

[@sebasmondoux666]

you're not alone, but I couldn't resist anymore, I'm trading in my 2018 Golf R for a 2020 BRZ Sport Pack !

[@emmaleclair6630]

10:21 was my favorite part of this drive

[@SHARKFINN50]

Emma LeClair same

[@DaLeadBull]

He calmly says he has plenty of traction while revving his engine and spinning his tires like crazy. lol

[@TheTopher]

Exactly, the tires could’ve been spinning even more! 😄

[@ericmacfadyen4134]

'You're gonna just start slowly' - 3-5k rpm, WAT

[@K03sport]

Self control and winter tires seems like the right answer. Next is a good car wash place when temps get warm enough.

[@danielangeles86]

I don't know why I'm watching this video cause I live in Texas lmao. But I have an FRS and this makes me want to drive to the north just to experience driving it in the snow. "Seeking the bad conditions" is literally me when it rains down here. I've never seen someone so confident with their car as literally making it fish-tail on purpose while going 60 mph in snow! You're a really good driver and the quality of this video is top notch. I expected wobbly GoPro footage and unclear audio but everything was on point! Subscribed!

[@p1mm3]

Welcome to the northern sweden my friend. Going 60 mph in a snow storm is not uncommon

[@kuromurasakizero9515]

@@p1mm3 you need to remind them, people in sweden are smart; they all have proper snow tires.

[@p1mm3]

@@kuromurasakizero9515 They surely do, but tires doesnt matters if the road is completely covered in ice

[@kuromurasakizero9515]

@@p1mm3 Siping. Compound. They are literally driving on a ice rink. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpKvZ3p-oLl1eM0 It does matter. Tires have come a very long way today.

[@peter813]

Basically driving a BRZ in the winter only requires one word. DRIIIIIIIFFFFTTTT

[@NS416]

Travis Scott that’s most RWD sports cars lol

[@tagmaster5854]

Suicide is the word

[@JakeAustin86]

Honestly. 100% agree. I daily mine lol

[@peter813]

Rage Rants I wanna get a new daily and I’m thinking of a BRZ, my only concern, is it quick enough when I wanna have some fun?

[@Crpjnr]

i thought you were gonna say balls lol

[@Synthwave89]

Love your videos Topher, especially BRZ vids ;) keep up the quality work man, your channel is underrated as hell.

[@angeltaq]

Literally one of my favorite videos can’t even tell you how many times I’ve come back to watch

[@autoswithalex606]

I daily drive my BRZ including the winter as well! I love it and I’ll never go back to just a front wheel drive again.

[@scottdan8097]

I'm really glad I found your channel. Watching you have all that fun in the BRZ helped me decide to get my own.

[@leWuff1]

I will get mine in 2 or 3 years. I have to earn some money

[@jackhofalot6705]

sorry for ur mistake

[@Ratite]

This car is such a delight to drive, I am so happy with it!

[@xnxful]

Your BRZ sounds so nice! I also winter drive my 86 in Canada; running stock size 215/45/17 Blizzak ws80. Not many hills where I live, so it's been absolutely fine!

[@prisonmike1874]

great to see people still driving the small and fun cars during this SUV hype. Always remember: Miata Is Always The Anwser!!!

[@michalviktorin6758]

No it is not for tall people.

[@summerman2]

You drive it like I would. I grew up on vw bugs and buses. The way you mount the camera gives the viewer the feel of how the car moves. Don't change that ever.

[@jacobgreizis4946]

randomly came across this video and realized youre on the roads i take to get to work, crazy coincidence, nice to see another car guy around here 👍🏼

[@TheOwangeJuice]

i love the way you used the snow to your advantage when you made that uturn! very good.

[@dinoelasz6360]

I drive my BRZ in winter conditions in Canada and I totally agree with this video👌

[@airdaddy1706]

@sierra_aviator Im in alberta and its great

[@DK-ks6nw]

Hey did u experience any rust issues?? I worry if i dont get rust prevention that the undercarriage will eventually rust from the winter salt etc

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

​@@DK-ks6nwit absolutely will rust...like every other vehicle without rust prevention measures.

[@kevinandrew_]

Have the same winter contact si's on my golf R and the blizzaks on the gf's CX5 and I agree with everything you said. In wet and dry conditions, those contis handle virtually as well as an all season, with little to no drop off in snow and ice vs the blizzaks. Would recommend them to anyone who lives where it snows!

[@GaisSacredCreations]

LUV the sound of that boxer engine!! I just bought a new BRZ today, will be taking delivery in mid-April once the worst of the snowstorms are over and the potholes get filled..winter in Canada makes for crappy roads especially in spring. Driving an Impreza now which I love, but this is my treat. Snow tires are mandatory here from December 1st to March 15 and I live on the side of a mountain, will be getting good snow/ice tires made right here for next winter.

[@Scirollo]

Drive mine all winter too, have never slipped or gotten stuck or bottomed out, body is mint. Zero problems for me

[@robertgadson]

Spent an Columbus, Ohio winter daily driving my BRZ. I confirm it’s fun and great!

[@Bildevoful]

Damn, I wish everyone was as competent as this dude.

[@NorthernSkiAndCycle]

I drove one winter in northern Ontario with my 1991 Mazda RX7. Set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires, zero traction control, open diff and it was actually AMAZING. It's still nothing compared to our Crosstrek or WRX, but it was much better than you'd expect.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Video of brz... finally!!

[@treerexaudi]

Yes!

[@tomc8854]

Great video! My FR-S was my daily in N.Y. Cooper snow tires and sand bags in trunk. Never got stuck! Moved to Phoenix in August. Car and driver much happier now. Awesome twisty mountain roads and lots of mountain bike trails nearby. I see a lot more of these cars here. Arizona 86 has three chapters in the Phoenix area with meets every week. Would be a cool road trip if you haven’t been to Phoenix. Save that interior get a bike rack! I got a hide a hitch that I attach a rack to . Super easy install and the rack can be taken of in about a minute.

[@gxbeeee]

I strive to be as good of a driver and as confident in my car as you are. Great video!

[@gavdad2669]

Drove my 2015 FR-S out to Geneva, IL from California a few years ago to see family and worked there for about six months during the winter. It had the stock Prius tires the whole time and it was like being on a giant slip n slide trying to go anywhere. Drifting to Aldi wasn’t optional.

[@Synystr7]

It isn't as hard as it sounds. I also daily drive a BRZ in Northern Alberta. I just had to put a new battery to replace the 4 year old OEM one. Aside from brake pads, rotors and oil... that is all I had to do to it after 86000km. I drove it from Toronto to montreal, montreal to gagetown NB in the winter and from gagetown to edmonton in the summer. Still drives like a dream. (the astute among you might be able to guess my profession. bonus points). I have only been stuck once. Snow was at the bumper and I was beaching but, oh man, did the car try. The traction control was kicking in and I was putting along at 5kph ish and i had to turn and that is what got me. I was able to rock out of it a couple times but I couldn't make the turn without a guy pushing. I love driving this thing in the winter. Like the guy said, it's tail happy, a challenge, teaches invaluable skills and it is really fun. Don't even attempt it without proper tires. It is a death wish. I did it once out of necessity and it was the stupidest thing I have ever done. My breaking distances were like 250-300m from 60 kph. GET SNOW TIRES.

[@sangh1120]

5:04 "if you get going slowly?" floors it. HAHAHAHA

[@talsing1326]

it's a manual

[@Mrqwertar]

@@talsing1326 and so what? You don't actually even need a gas pedal to start going with a manual

[@Laughup89]

depends on clutch, i have to on my car

[@drewhender3999]

Vincent Hawks If you want to move off at a normal pace you do, without the throttle it takes forever

[@mattp4704]

Thanks man, this video sealed the deal. Time to start hunting through the lightly used market!

[@sharjot10]

did you find any?

[@brettrobinson7486]

Let me just say the frs platform is the most practical sports car ever. Mine sits nearly fender to lip on some nitto neogens 235/40/18’s in ohios winters. Sure it tries to kill you but its all good. Never gets stuck😂

[@FallenJustice]

This is my 3rd Canadian winter with my FRS. Have blizzaks on. It is extremely easy to drive in the winter. The handling is amazing. I wouldn't want to drive anything else.

[@carelessmen2464]

hey what do you do for unnderbody and frame/chassis rust prevention

[@sshah2545]

Where do you/did you live? Not all Canadian winters are created equal

[@aros2300]

I love driving the 86 in winter it's great for learning how to drive rwd😏

[@elysian5624]

Dude, your shifts are butterfly smooth . Lol love it

[@theballsy1942]

8:50 and 9:28 the only reason i watch these videos, its soooo GOOD.

[@alankingchiu]

Yup. Winter tires + FRS/BRZ/86 = Fun. I keep the traction/stability off.

[@sategllib2191]

I drove a mustang without traction control or abs from the age 16 to 20. Winters weren't too bad. Driving sideways down every road was loads of fun

[@slaWterCH]

This is the first winter I'm not daily driving my sports car and I miss it sooo much!

[@MetalTiger88]

Greetings from germany, i love your videos 🙂 really interesting to see how the brz handles in the winter. I drive an opel astra gtc on winter tires and a mx5 na on summer tires, but i never had problems, even on snow. But right now we don't have that much snow as you guys😅

[@isuguy82]

That sounds so nice!

[@sinex9201]

Im in love with that car Awesome video

[@sky_004]

Fantastic video! Great to experience those fun little moments with you. :)

[@PinkyPowers]

I daily drive my Challenger 5.7L HEMI through our Kansas City winters. Ice. Snow. Death. It's completely doable. Staying on the road is easy if you know how to drive. Stopping can be scary. But that's true even for a 4x4.

[@HandlewithcareVibes]

I find your videos quite relaxing (same car here, '17 GT86)

[@MyGoToUserName]

I agree completely about seeking the drive in snowy conditions. I'm running on Pirelli ice zero FR in 205/55R16. The grip is great on wet and dry, but suffers in the deep stuff.

[@WrxJessegb]

I’m not surprised how great it is ! Thinking about doing the same thing because I miss my ts so much

[@CommandoMaster]

Sounds really good.

[@KDD8]

When the FR-S first released I had two clients crash because they were running summer tires in the winter and couldnt stop in time, thus rear ending another car

[@niel6453]

Can't get enough of those drifts ;)

[@darx3351]

VERY enjoyable to watch

[@MikeDrives]

I like watching the snow fly up in the rear view mirror haha.

[@TheRazorJDM]

Those sick drifts!:O

[@shreddykruger3612]

love how he pins it from a complete stop and is like " you have plenty of traction " lol need to learn how to drive in the snow man

[@matty1053]

I have Michelin x ice 13 on my 2016 Kia Soul+. Believe me, snow tires make a massive difference.

[@stevenyerry2209]

10:26 U-turns “am ima jake to you?”

[@etoineschrdlu9382]

I also daily drive my 2015 BRZ in Wintertime. I have Continental WinterContact Si 215/45R17 tires mounted on Enkei M52 wheels: stock diameter. They've always performed well on ice, snow, and in the wet and even on cold, dry roads. They're grippier and more predictable than the OEM Michelin Harmony's ; I find that I can hang the tail out more on the WinterContacts without the traction control engaging than on the stock OEM tires. I've had them for three years. Unfortunately, Conti stopped building this size and I'll probably get Michelin X-ICE instead. We just had a nice, icy snowfall this evening and I took the BRZ out for fun: nice, controllable oversteer on slow speed corners and predictable rotation on faster bends. BRZ is my snowmobile.

[@AnAzianKid]

That looks so fun

[@gustavokennedy213]

This car would make making donuts easy. You have immense courge driving in those conditions. I live in Texas and I only have driven in icy conditions even that almost proved fatal a couple of times. I like asphalt dry and smooth. Thanks for the video

[@kylewagenaar5786]

I almost sold my 09 civic si after getting my 2020 86 and if I did sell my civic I would winter drive the 86. My civic is so good in the snow that I keep it as my winter car so I don't have to worry about salt or scratches from brushing the snow off.

[@nathanaelmudlaff]

Great Video!!

[@LoLPhuocDat]

yesss update

[@ZDY66666]

One cool thing I noticed while driving my friend's brz, is that around 5k + rpm, it sounds like a Porsche NA Flat 6's 2.5 to 3.5k rpm. (At least for the 3.4 liter engines)

[@imsenpapi]

Aaaaaalmost makes me regret trading in for my FK8 lol. Great content!

[@grosblyth]

Good tyres and a locked differential. Thats about all you need.

[@westleymcdonald-strand5610]

I run an FR-S, and I'll say that despite being "capable" in the winter, the lightweight characteristics and the RWD combined make it problematic in the SLUSH. Fishtails off the line which becomes a hefty issue in traffic. Didn't do well in Monday's (January 28th) Toronto snow storm lol ALSO, stuck on ice after parking; little back and forth shove from someone helps!

[@cjb8764]

I daily drove my x-frs in 3 winter season with Conti High Performance All Season. Haaaayyyy fun times.

[@jonboy602]

Nice vid. I winter drive my BRZ too - same size tires as yours as I moved mine from a miata. It's 5 times the fun in winter as it is on dry roads in summer, so well balanced. I don't find it too difficult to get stuck on steeper hills, but there aren't too many where I live. The only downside for me is my gearbox sucks from first to second in the cold, and by the time I get to work it hasn't had chance to warm up. On the other hand, pulling out of a sideroad in second avoids this issue, and makes it much easier to hold a long drift from taking off. :)

[@droctoganapus125]

Try switching your transmission fluid

[@jonboy602]

@@droctoganapus125 I tried at least 6 different fluids on my first BRZ, and didn't think any of them made a huge difference after a few weeks of driving. My current BRZ is a little smoother but I just live with it now.

[@Synthwave89]

Sup guys, I live in the sunshine state and even I have a notchy second gear when engine is cold. Right now during the winter + spring it gets as cold as my hometown and the one thing that works amazingly well is double clutching into second. After practicing for a few months I can't believe double clutching like you should is so easy, and second gear changes are buttery smooth if done right and much better than using the synchros even if not done perfect. Gonna change to red line Mt oil and red line diff oil but will always DC second gear, it's night and day.

[@TheTopher]

When I switched to Redline 75w90 that helped with those second gear shifts a lot- but I know what you mean - now I'll either start in second or go from first to neutral and then gently into second for the first few minutes until things start to warm up.

[@saysupra2314]

I would love to daily this everyday... I live close to Canada and we get a whole lotta snow... I did daily a 330ci before and I LOVED it... and I would expect a similar experience from a brz ( both rear wheel drive)

[@darx3351]

This is awesome

[@phoonphilms]

Bout to have my first winter with my 17 BRZ

[@Jay-sn7wu]

nice!! I had the same tires on my BRZ but i just went with standard 215/45/17 and boooooooy was it a blast. Bout to be first winter with the WRX~ trying out the hankook winter i cept evo 2 w320

[@zs1164]

Nice job!

[@expiredzoos8284]

1. go on craigslist and facebook marketplace and look for a set of winter tires and rims on the cheap 2. talk em down a bit then drive out there in a borrowed suv or truck and buy em 3. jack the car up and put the tires on 4. put weight in the trunk and drift whenever u want when it snows

[@HotlineKM1]

I got a friend who's been daily driving his 350Z for the last 3ish years and the key is snow tires. His first winter he had all seasons on and if I remember correctly he had to put a couple hundred pounds of sandbags in the back just to get good traction. He will never drive another winter again without snow tires.

[@nonameguygmanquedinspirati5370]

Thks men really help me out👍👌

[@jonnydwolf]

“You’re going to find yourself seeking these bad conditions” I think when I hit 37 or so, I looked at the style of driving you’re doing as work and kinda dangerous. Anyway, great video. Thanks!

[@lionhead876]

Haha I live In Michigan and not only are the winters bad but the roads afterwards are brutal, literally potholes every few feet lol

[@Jpizzle0422]

Shoutout to Plymouth, MI😉 see ya around pal

[@marcell8542]

i Have the BRZ in mind Since 4 or 5 years. I have bought a Hyundai i30N (not available in the us i think) instead of an BRZ in January 2018,because he is a 4 Door Hatchback,and a bit bigger....and more Power.BUT i am Still in Love with this Beautiful Car,if i had the Money,i would Buy an BRZ as my second Car. Greetings from East Germany O/

[@lightningsmokerXx]

Topher you don't need to do the dust road thing with Krown --- it's not the old school way. Once it's on the steel it's bonded there. Don't forget to do their Salt Eliminator wash come spring.

[@halleyalexis6662]

I have a 2014 Brz as well, it’s my daily and I live in Canada. When I bought it people thought I was crazy because everyone drives AWD trucks or SUV’s but I personally wouldn’t have it any other way. The car handles extremely well, that and the manual transmission is what sold me on it 😆 It’s my first winter with it and I found this video was very informative; I’ll definitely be taking some tips and tricks from it! What are you thoughts on studded tires for the car? I’ve debated sandbags in the back but I also considered getting just the rear wheels studded as I have a second set of winter wheels and tires. I’ve found so far the car is really good for stopping in snow because of its light weight but for take offs when it’s icy it can be tricky. Also would love to see a rust proof video too on this car, if you make one in the future! Anyways, great video! You’ve just gained a new subscriber 😄 cheers!

[@TheTopher]

Thanks! Studded tires can’t hurt, they’re not legal for us here in Michigan, but the key is a skinny tall tire (195 or 205). A sand bag in the trunk will help too but usually isn’t necessary. Lots of good things to say about Krown Rust Proofing, you can do it yourself or take it to a shop, you guys have a ton of locations up in Canada 👍

[@halleyalexis6662]

@@TheTopher I had no idea they aren't legal there, any particular reason why do you know? I decided against it anyways, and so far I haven't had any issues! I may have to invest in some different tires next winter though, and I'll definitely be looking into Krown Rust Proofing as well; thanks for the tip! :)

[@beetlejuice1239]

Owned and drove a jdm Toyota altezza in the Canadian winter. It’s definitely doable. Just need enough ground clearance and proper tires. Usually switched off tc just in case I slip unwillingly, I was able to stomp it rather than letting the car do. Snow tires>AWD

[@jokicha9172]

I have a genesis coupe and I got stuck 4 times already this week with winter tires + 1 19in wheel in the trunk and 4 all season tires in the backseat here in canada... It's doable but it can be quite the hassle lol. It's fun when you want to have fun, and definitely keeps you focused.

[@sun2190_]

Which part of Canada?

[@WhiskeyBluesman]

Got mine! I drove it home as it was snowing and I haven’t driven it since. I’m in Ann Arbor so I got the same snow haha

[@TheTopher]

Did you get it at Dunning?

[@anbudo]

I guess I'm not the only one who daily this car even in the winters.

[@SleepyRulu]

You're making me addicted to gt86

[@Navieri]

And here I am with my frs still running summer tires in winter lol

[@ukumra]

I daily drove my s2000 all year in Illinois for 13 years. I know what you mean by felling like a real enthusiast! Haha! Alas, it was stolen one day...but I had a great time.

[@boppe2235]

Im from michigan, and my 325xi is already a drift missile in the winter, can't imagine rwd with an lsd

[@RickSancHezFDurMOM]

I can never get over at how small these cars are in person

[@julianayala4606]

I might get one next week but I live in Colorado so the snow is a problem

[@dinuguan]

I always liked the BRZ/FRS/86 but the only reason I’m even considering to get it and daily it in NYC is because of you so thank you

[@Austinomon]

As an NYC resident who owns this car, I’d say go for it, no issues at all in winter, even yesterday with that little flurry my car was doing better than all the compact suv drivers on the road

[@dinuguan]

Ace Morales - Pen on paper very soon. Thanks for the insight!

[@Austinomon]

Matthew Fronda what he says in the video is true, get some snow tires don’t go crazy with price any basic ones work well and you’ll be all set, I have yet to get stuck even with last years nor’easters which I HAD to drive in

[@matthewnovak7351]

I live in north NJ and bought an FRS a month ago and it's been a lot of fun! The dealer I bought it from put on knockoff stock tires and they don't grip AT ALL on the snow but I love sliding around! Pretty easy to control but definitely not a good idea 😂 good luck with ur purchase!

[@TheShamRockii]

Go for it Ny Gang strong lol, just got mine last month

[@Dan-hn1ci]

I have Hankook I-pike RSV winter tires on my forte and they are fantastic and have tons of traction

[@CancelledMcCree]

Good video! I’ve been flipping between the WRX, Fiesta ST & the Toyota 86 but I have been worried because it rains a bit in Vegas & snows outside of town a bit.

[@UntrustedAlly]

Magical Mysteria I drove my manual foxbody with summer tires on the interstate going 80 during a blizzard. If you want RWD go for it

[@Moue666]

Snow tires, slow launch, kitty litter, and a fold-able snow shovel. Das it.

[@RandomlnternetGuy]

Well. You just solidified my decision

[@LopSidedPopCan]

Currently drive an 07 civic si, live in Manitoba and it sure gets snowy. Have always looked at 3 series with a stick as well as wrx's but now I might be considering this🤔. Try to get that tail end out in the civic whenever possible but it's just not the same as a good ol rwd!

[@amg_gts1239]

6speed manual 😍