Why the Shema cannot be referring to the Trinity

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The Trinity Delusion

The Trinity Delusion

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@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 4 жыл бұрын
The Shema command at Deuteronomy 6:4 necessarily refers to Jesus Christ's God who was not a Trinity. The command refers to "OUR" God, Israel's God, whic for Jesus meant the God of the Shema is the God of every Israelite including he himself. He obeyed the Shema command by recognizing and serving only one person as God, "OUR" God, the God of Israel. Jesus testifies to us what the Shema command means by how he himself obeyed it.
@shanederry2691
@shanederry2691 5 жыл бұрын
Amen, Brother! Worship Jehovah, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!
@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל
@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל 4 жыл бұрын
That is YEHOWAH or YEHOVAH.
@ElCineHefe
@ElCineHefe 5 жыл бұрын
God is ONE, not a corporation of persons. This is one of the keys of David.
@GatheringJacob
@GatheringJacob 4 жыл бұрын
ElCineHefe ? What do you mean “keys of David”?
@ElCineHefe
@ElCineHefe 4 жыл бұрын
@@GatheringJacob God is ONE. That's the first key to understanding everything. Without that, people are still in Babylon, along with every other trouble godhead worshipped by the heathen from Babylon and Egypt to the end where they worship the triune Dragon, The Beast and the False Prophet as God.
@GatheringJacob
@GatheringJacob 4 жыл бұрын
ElCineHefe but how does that connect as a “key of David”. Why do you use that term and why specifically do you connect it to David?
@ElCineHefe
@ElCineHefe 4 жыл бұрын
@@GatheringJacob That is the foundation of the king of Israel.
@4321grp
@4321grp 4 жыл бұрын
Brother Kel, You proved in this video that the Trinity is an impossibility. Sadly if Jesus himself made a KZbin video saying the same thing, there would still be some people who would disagree with him.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, we know this to be true since they disagree with him routinely. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWjVnYt6mMmIa7c
@lovealways2609
@lovealways2609 8 ай бұрын
​@@TheTrinityDelusionthe majority of ch*rchianity promotes a triune G-d, so it is common for the average person to: fall into the trap of "the fear of man, instead of the Holy fear of G-d" *your passion for remaining on topic is quite encouraging
@lovealways2609
@lovealways2609 8 ай бұрын
"Some ppl" < no, i believe "Most ppl" < would still continue to reject the One True G-d and Father of our One L*rd and Savior, Jesus the Christ
@Ronyron3053
@Ronyron3053 5 жыл бұрын
Hear O Israel(The world of the people), The Lord (YHVH) is ONE! You must keep his commandments
@chinochris3181
@chinochris3181 5 жыл бұрын
Big bro, You should make a video on the history of the trinity and its root in pagan religions (i.e. babylon)
@MrJosephthedreamer10
@MrJosephthedreamer10 5 жыл бұрын
It is simple if you read a bible to see that Jesus said "FATHER SEEKS WORSHIPPERS"... Trinity is no GOD. People refer to a trinity but its not in scripture.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, although the one true God is the main character of the Bible, He is mentioned thousands of times, and the Bible is about the revelation of Himself to his people and the world, there is not one single mention of a three person God. Not one. This contraption is not the God of Abraham, not the God of Moses or David, nor the God of Jesus or his Apostles, but the man-made God of wicked men, an idol they fashioned to serve their own selfish needs.
@Ranger1985.
@Ranger1985. 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thankful to be free from trinity nonsense. It's actually quite funny to remember when I used to be a trinitarian. It took the Bible and the grace of God to open my eyes. Now that I know him, he's my father. Something I was robbed of as a trinitarian. I remember wondering which member of the trinity I should pray to. Haha. Sad but true! :)
@bluekron
@bluekron 4 жыл бұрын
BEst one yet to add to the arsenal of truth.
@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל
@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל 4 жыл бұрын
Amen brother!!Amen!!very good "the trinity delusion" you are a good man!
@stevendubberly8106
@stevendubberly8106 5 жыл бұрын
POWERFUL!
@wilmavanstaden1026
@wilmavanstaden1026 5 жыл бұрын
We came to the conclusion that the one talent the Word speaks about is "common sense" in your search for the TRUTH of the Word of God. This video will prove this point. If you don't want to accept what the Shema really says about the true God out the mouth (words) of Jesus then you are guilty of hiding your talent of using "common sensë" and it will be taken away from you.
@greglance4335
@greglance4335 5 жыл бұрын
Too clear - thanks Kel
@bosse641
@bosse641 5 жыл бұрын
YHVH, The God of Israel, is 1 individual. The Word tells me so, simply and clearly.
@MrJosephthedreamer10
@MrJosephthedreamer10 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone in Christ should know Christs HEAD. The head of Christ is no triune GODHEAD as trinitarians suppose.
@bvenski3199
@bvenski3199 5 жыл бұрын
@Christian Man What happened to our thread? I was talking about how Keith B thinks the Godhead = Trinity. Was it deleted?
@jamesguest4705
@jamesguest4705 5 жыл бұрын
God spoke to this. Isaiah 43:10-11 those two versus leave no room for a Trinity or a man-god intercessor
@bobbyfischersays1262
@bobbyfischersays1262 Жыл бұрын
I watched a Trinitarian say in a debate that the scribe misunderstood Jesus because he wasn't following Jesus and would have learned what Jesus really meant if he had followed him. Amazing.
@ianpaul7895
@ianpaul7895 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus elsewhere specifically tells us who the Israelites purported to worship, when he speaks of the Father and says to them, “whom you say is your God.” They were not claiming to worship a trinity.
@powerofwun
@powerofwun 2 жыл бұрын
@16:35 sums it up really well.
@GatheringJacob
@GatheringJacob Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the straightforward way you speak to Trinitarians. They MUST repent, the time is short. Brother Kel, what is your view, are Trinitarians lost, will they be damned?
@johndevisser3318
@johndevisser3318 5 жыл бұрын
Please brother Kel, there's one thing I don't understand yet about the scriptures: Who (or what) is the created light in Genesis before the sun and moon were created?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
That question is one of the questions that ultimately led me out of Trinitarianism. The best way I can explain it in this box is like this: think about the light in terms of result - the glory of the risen Christ, the bright morning star. Gen 1:3 is Day 1. The light is what would become a glorified son who rose on Day 1. See Malachi 4:2; Luke 1:78-79; 2 Peter 1:19.
@MiCasaMiCasa777
@MiCasaMiCasa777 4 ай бұрын
Can't thank you enough.
@williamkacensky1069
@williamkacensky1069 5 жыл бұрын
Kel, I have thoroughly enjoyed listening to your videos, as I came across them years ago. However, you use the name Jesus. Yeshua was, as YOU say in this video an Israelite Jew. He was born a Jew, had Jewish parents, lived in a Jewish sec, preached to the Jews, spoke and read the Hebrew language, including scripture. Came in his father's name Yehovah to save his people the Jews. Why would you take a beautiful Jewish name Yeshua and substitute it with a name that our father did not refer too?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
What does this say? "One of the two who heard John speak and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother. 41 He *found first his own brother Simon and *said to him, “We have found the Messiah” (which translated means Christ). 42 He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, “You are Simon the son of John; you shall be called Cephas” (which is translated Peter)." Jesus called him Cephas. So it is wrong to call him Peter? Ask yourself why John is telling you this if it is wrong to call him Peter.
@williamkacensky1069
@williamkacensky1069 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion Kel, You have avoided my question completely. I have asked why you use the name Jesus instead of the beautiful Hebrew name Yeshua, that was given to the Anointed one by our father the creator? I'm not intrested in English names or their forms of that were not in existence in the 1st century. Or how man has corrupted Scripture to form his own likes and desires. I am presently working at the moment but when I have time later this evening I'll express more in detail. Thank you.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamkacensky1069 I guess it went over your head. John had no problem using the name Peter for Simon instead of Kephas which was the name Jesus gave him. Why didn't this register in your head? The NT apostles had no problem calling him Iesous. You simply don't know what you are talking about.
@Mckaule
@Mckaule 5 жыл бұрын
Yeshua only sect ? KJV only sect.. what else ?
@numbernine8571
@numbernine8571 3 жыл бұрын
William K.....stop being such a Pharisee.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Why did Israel people mistake Samuel with God when God is invisible?
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, According to Paul, who did God talk to while creating humankind in genesis 1st chapter? According to Jews who did God talk to while creating humankind in genesis 1st chapter?
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
There is evidence
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunkaraeliya2889 What's the meaning of the phrase 'We are a grandmother'? 'We have become a grandmother' was UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's statement to the press in 1989, on the birth of her first grandchild, Mark Thatcher's son Michael. What's the origin of the phrase 'We are a grandmother'? we are a grandmotherThe use of the 'royal we' (the 'pluralis majestatis' or 'majestic plural') had previously been restricted, as one might expect, to royalty; for example, Queen Victoria's celebrated 'we are not amused'. Its use by a mere prime minister and Thatcher's imperious personal manner were the source of considerable disdain at the time. Thatcher's apparent conceit led to her being described as 'a legend in her own imagination' and to some linguistic jokes at her expense: - Why is Margaret Thatcher like a pound coin? - Because she is thick, brassy and thinks she's a sovereign.
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithshortsellkiller2598 "Let the unrighteous continue to be unrighteous, and the vile continue to be vile; let the righteous continue to practice righteousness, and the holy continue to be holy.” Rev 22:11 Which one are you?
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
And I already answered the Hebrew letter part of the question (god talking to god) that Paul did not even wrote.
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithshortsellkiller2598 What have I lied about?
@fromanabe8639
@fromanabe8639 4 жыл бұрын
Could Jesus' God have been a trinity while he was still on earth or did his God become a trinity after he arose? Was Jesus actually worshiping himself as part of a trinity? Does God, the Father, just overlook those who worship a trinity instead of Him, since he can see they are sincere? Doesn't He say He is a jealous God? And "thou shall have no other gods before me?"
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Jews said "although you are human, You call yourself God ".why did Jesus not condemn the Jewish remarks?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
Did his reply sound to you like he approved of the words of these murderers?
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please Tell me how he condemned Jewish remarks ?
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 5 жыл бұрын
Is your position theologically called "Dynamic Monarchianism/ Adoptionism"?
@bluekron
@bluekron 4 жыл бұрын
how about just... God is whom he is...
@numbernine8571
@numbernine8571 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear a trinitarian explain why virtually every pronoun in the bible that refers to God is a singular pronoun.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 4 жыл бұрын
They will say it is because God is three persons but ONE BEING. However, that's a farce because "being" in their doctrine just means "divine nature." God is a single HE because three persons are one nature? But that's what they are saying and it manages to fool most people. Three humans have one nature too. No Triune He there.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, Why do Jewish people believe that Jesus claims to be god?
@getx1265
@getx1265 Жыл бұрын
Excellent forceful teaching of a topic strangely so misunderstood.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Peter says the Christ preached gospel at the time of Noah. Do you believe it?
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
What? Peter did not contradict Hebrews 1:1-2.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
According Paul and Peter, who is the spirit of the THE LORD in old testment? Who is the spirit of the THE LORD in genesis?
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
Spirit of God. You are told that. Do you think it is a person of a person or being of a being? Are you serious? Who have bewitched you?
@44place85
@44place85 5 жыл бұрын
Trinitarian Is there any reason to believe GOD is a single person?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
There are actually many reasons.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, According to John, "No one has ever seen God at any time but the only begotten son who is at the father's side has revealed him "when was Jesus at the father's side before he revealed about God?was Jesus at the father's side before resurrection or after ressurerection?
@Ronyron3053
@Ronyron3053 5 жыл бұрын
Sunkara Eliya False there were a lot of people who saw God for example Isaiah the prophet, Moses, Daniel, Elisha, and etc.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think that John is telling a lie?
@Ronyron3053
@Ronyron3053 5 жыл бұрын
Sunkara Eliya everytime a prophet spoke the word of God it was made flesh, because God needs a human body to speak his word to his people.
@Ronyron3053
@Ronyron3053 5 жыл бұрын
Sunkara Eliya Joh wasn't lying, however we misunderstood him
@randmanooooo
@randmanooooo 5 жыл бұрын
Rony Ron You said every time God speaks he needs a human body Did he have a human body when Jesus was baptized Mathew 3:16 “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway from the water: and lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon him; and lo, a voice out of the heavens, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:16-17‬ ‭ASV‬‬
@numbernine8571
@numbernine8571 2 жыл бұрын
see chart at 9:44 for main idea of video
@anissueofursincerity
@anissueofursincerity 5 жыл бұрын
If it were referring to a TRI-unity it could have said "shalosh" (three) instead of "ehad". . . . . If Jesus was a Trinitarian saying "our God: is "one", period, never mentioning the rest wouldn't that have been cagy of him? . . . . Jesus also agreed that God is "our Father", period, not "father" along with two additional divine persons.
@sbeasley7585
@sbeasley7585 Жыл бұрын
Today I had a trinitarian tell me that Jesus is the God of the Father. This happened after I pointed out that Jesus has a God, by quoting John 20:17. Has anyone ever heard such a thing being said before by a self professing Christian? That Jesus is the God of the Father?!?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion Жыл бұрын
Most Trinitarians don't even understand their own doctrine. Saying Jesus is the Father is heresy for Trinitarians.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Why are some other beings called "gods " apart from God in Bible? Why did Jesus confirm this in John 's gospel?
@rod8989
@rod8989 5 жыл бұрын
Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. 1 Corinthians 8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you got the idea. You are right.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The serpent said to the woman "If you eat this Fruit you will be like gods knowing good and evil. Then the Lord said "He became like one of us knowing good and evil "who are these gods before the creation? You need to understand this to know who Jesus is.
@rod8989
@rod8989 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunkaraeliya2889 Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger. 27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. 28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it. 29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, According to Paul, two persons involved in the creation of the world, who are they?
@johndevisser3318
@johndevisser3318 5 жыл бұрын
According to you, you mean. Don't blame your personal deception on Paul. Male and female "He" made them, not "we" made them. Cherry picking verses to make your own truth is not what Jesus teached us to do, we must deny ourselves and don't abuse the scriptures to let it tell a lie
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely wrong. You don't know about early church theology. You are misguidiing the people by your own theology. I would request you to stop it
@johndevisser3318
@johndevisser3318 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunkaraeliya2889 You are badly mistaken. I reject all theology. It is of the world and not of God.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
You don't know Bible and you can't answer them. You blame others to support your theology.
@nikelemccain3664
@nikelemccain3664 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it that just because we disagree, accusations & falsehoods start being claimed. Those who stand for the truth, simply proclaim & explain. We may even correct, but pointless accusations, personal insults, & massive conclusion jumping is certainly not what we ought to be doing as Christians. I would suggest this, if your belief in certain doctrines causes imbalanced, irrational, or just wicked behaviour, the doctrine(s) may need to be held in question.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Did Paul confirm that there are so called "gods " in Bible? What is the explanation that he gave for that?
@Ronyron3053
@Ronyron3053 5 жыл бұрын
Sunkara Eliya We misunderstood Paul, because Paul understood the SHEMA COMMAND
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Then what is your explanation?
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
"so called" that is your explanation.
@Ronyron3053
@Ronyron3053 5 жыл бұрын
Sunkara Eliya yes
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
No I don't agree with you
@cpom11
@cpom11 5 жыл бұрын
The Shema is not really a command but a declaration....
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus and the scribe agreed it is a command. Why would you say otherwise? You are to love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul and might. That is a command.
@nikelemccain3664
@nikelemccain3664 5 жыл бұрын
@Christian Man Why do you bring Him up? Did he post a comment I can't see or something?
@cpom11
@cpom11 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion Where in the OT is it a command? Not in Deut. 4 or 6, or Ex. 20. It is quoted with commands as you say, I have always wondered why it is referred to as a command. That the Jews don't make the clear distinctions between law and prophecy and writings like we gentiles do is probably why Jesus included it. If I said "the sky is blue", would that be a command or declaration?
@nikelemccain3664
@nikelemccain3664 5 жыл бұрын
@Christian Man In the past sure, but what did he have to do with this comment section?
@nikelemccain3664
@nikelemccain3664 5 жыл бұрын
@Christian Man I understand brother, I just don't think its fair to bring him up, he's not a big name like someone who has written official books about it or something. I actual argued with him all day yesterday, he did all that you mentioned except for the cursing in which he has refrained from as of late. That's progression, at least tag him, but the mentioning of this 27 year old man in that way, to me is unnecessary. However, Do what seems good to you brother. God bless you as well
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Why was Jesus mentioned as "begotten god "in ancient Greek texts?
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
@Shalom Shalom Are you really serious about this? You translate from greek to hebrew and you think that could make any sense what so ever? Echad mean one...... simply one - uno, ein, 1. 1 have nothing to do with being born for crying out loud. And genious if there is mono something meaning one it will be close to being one in sound........... Are you even thinking?
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272 5 жыл бұрын
@Shalom Shalom Wicked word play.
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272 5 жыл бұрын
@Shalom Shalom hahahahaha.... you are funny.
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272 5 жыл бұрын
@Shalom Shalom No thanks. If I would want to hear something similiar I would watch Monthy Python and the Holy Grail.
@TheRevelationDeception
@TheRevelationDeception 5 жыл бұрын
8:35 Thanks for the video and I agree about the false "trinity" doctrine. However, Jesus as Son is not the "One God the Father". The Son is seen to be libated out of His Father in Psalms 2.6. This is according to the ”fatherline in the heaven " (E3.15) concerning the Son out of the Father as Head of Christ (see my video called Two Origins). Sadly, these verse below have been poorly translated in most all bible translations, where first note the prepositions and the denoting of the Son as “beside the Father” not as THE Father Himself. *J1.14 "And the Word became flesh and had tent in among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the Only-Become FROM BESIDE the Father, full of grace and truth"* The same context as "Only-Become" is also seen in J1.18 designating the Son as "Only-Become God" of which the Father would not be "Only-Become" but rather the Father as Head Origin of the Son as an origin hence: "promolgated" meaning lead out from beside the Father as an origin of an Origin (again see my video Two Origins). *J1.18 For not one has ever seen God; the only-become God, the One being come into the body-bay OF THE FATHER, that One (the Father) promulgates Him (the Son). And again, we see the Son identified as "Only-Become" of which the Father gave us as the way back to the Father and all in all. *J3.16 For thus the God loves the cosmos, so that He (the Father) gave the Only-Become, the Son, so that all-every the faithing one into Him (the Son) will not wholly loosen himself away, but have eonian life."* Jesus as Son (not Father) is the way back to the Father according to the completion of “the all in all (IC15.28). The Father as giving the Son as way back to Him (the Father) is THROUGH the Son, the "Only-Become Son from beside the Father of Whom the Father is the oner completing the all in all (E1.23). *J14.6 Jesus says to him: I, I am the way and the truth and the life; not one comes TO THE FATHER except THROUGH Me."* Not the prepositions "out" and "through" in the context of the way back to the Father THROUGH the Son. *1C8.6 but to us there is but one God, THE FATHER, OUT OF whom are the all, and we into Him (back to the Father), and ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST (the Only-Become Son from beside the Father), THROUGH whom are the all, and we through Him (the Son)* This is the proper order that the Son came out of the Father and the way back to the Father is through the Son, who is NOT the Father.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
How about you translate John 1:6 for us? And then you can tell us if you intepret para at John 1:6 the say way you interpret John 1:14.
@TheRevelationDeception
@TheRevelationDeception 5 жыл бұрын
The Greek preposition “para” in all it’s some 194 occurrences) always denotes that which has motion and or location "beside" something where the preposition “apo” denotes motion and or location “from” something. However, the word “from” is added in italics (as seen in the DLT) to the word “beside” when the Hellenic preposition "para" is followed by a genitive (as seen in about 89 occurrences of the 194). Translations that make "para" only "from" are in error. Again, the preposition para ALWAYS denotes motion and or location "beside" not only "from" as exclusive to the preposition apo. Again, if you read the Dabhar LIteral Translation, you would find the word "from" only in italics as it's found in the genetive. *J1.6 There came to be a human, one having been dispatched FROM-BESIDE (para in the genetive) God (the Father), to him was the name John."* Now, are you suggesting that Jesus is “God” in this verse, who dispatched John? First of all, Jesus was in the belly of his mother Miriam, while John was in the belly of Elizabeth. It would be silly to assume that Jesus (as God the Father) dispatched John, when Jesus was a fetus in the belly of His mother. Besides, Jesus was also dispatched of the Father (John 6.57). Now, I understand where your confusion comes from because most fail to understand what I talk about in my video called Two Origins (link below). Understanding the difference between the Masculine Origin “rosh” and the feminine origin “reshith” gives us the ability to determine the context of who “the origin” of John 1.1 speaks in relationship to “the Word”. Simply, what one needs to perceive is that the feminine “origin” of J1.1 is not speaking of God the Father (the Masculine “rosh”) but the feminine "reshith" as read in John 1.1. The Father as Origin is head of the Word as seen in Psalms 119.160. *J1.1 In the origin (feminine reshith) was the Word (the Son as an origin of an Origin), and the Word was TOWARD the God (the Father), and the Word was God (the Only-Become God).* Here the statement “the Word was God" is in the context of the Son as “the Only-Become God” as read in J1.18 who is the same “Only-Become from BESIDE the Father” as “Only-Become Son (J1.14,18). The son is not the Father where also understand that all sons of God (manifest in glory/Luke 20.36), are “gods” (J10.34-35). However, Jesus as ONLY-BECOME God, Son, from beside the Father, designates Him as the “Aforeborned of every creation” (C1.15) speaking of the manifest “creatures” of James 1.18 who are no more flesh and blood in the eon to come (IC15.50). Those who attain to be “sons of the resurrection” and “sons of God…equal to angels” (Luke 20.5-36) will be “gods” as manifest sons in the glory of their Father. Does this mean all "gods" are the Father? No, and this doesn’t negate that there is but “One God the Father” and “one Lord Jesus Christ” who is the “ONLY-Become God from beside the Father..." Two Origins kzbin.info/www/bejne/eobPqZukobmbaJY
@TheRevelationDeception
@TheRevelationDeception 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion I might add that Jesus Himself (speaking in the first person singular) prayed to the Father while addressing the Father in the second person singular (J17.5). Here we also find the preposition "para" twice in the same context of J1.14 and many other verses found in John that state "from beside the Father...." *J17.5 And now glorify Me (1st person singular), You My Father (2nd person singular), BESIDE Yourself (para), with the glory according to the glory I have BESIDE You (para)....""* Here "the glory" of the Son beside the Father points to Hebrews 2.9 where even He is stated to be "beside angels" according to His humanity. *H2.9 But we look-see Jesus having been made a little bit, yea, somewhat less BESIDE angels (para), having been crowned WITH GLORY (J17.5) and value because of the suffering of the death, so that in the grace of God (the Father) He (the Son) might taste of death for all"* Grace, mercy and peacee in Christ Jesus!!!
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, Why does God call Jesus "god " in Hebrew 1st chapter?
@gustavmahler1466
@gustavmahler1466 5 жыл бұрын
Not only is Jesus called ''God'' he also is the creator Hebrews 1:10
@bosse641
@bosse641 5 жыл бұрын
@@gustavmahler1466 Satan is also called God. That does not mean he is Almighty God. The Trinitarians are not able to think critically.
@gustavmahler1466
@gustavmahler1466 5 жыл бұрын
@@bosse641 But Satan isn't the Creator of the heavens and earth Read Hebrews 1:10
@bosse641
@bosse641 5 жыл бұрын
@@gustavmahler1466 I know that, I said so.
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
Because it is false translation.
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272
@trojca-krytycznespojrzenie272 5 жыл бұрын
I have found that it is mandatory for believers that Jesus=God is to be antisemite or filosemite zionist. They cannot help themselves to not have hatred or servitude attitude. Because they had run away from the truth so they find themselves hating what they runned away from - from the truth that a salvation came thru the Jews.
@yeahwheey1
@yeahwheey1 5 жыл бұрын
" *Ye worship ye know not what* : we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews."
@T1985-q1d
@T1985-q1d 5 жыл бұрын
The Trinity Delusion Shema is similar to Quran Sura 112 The words "أَحَدٌ" in Arabic is identical to the word "אֶחָד" in Hebrew. Arabic: قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ‎ - Qul Huwa 'Llāhu ʾAḥad ("Say, He is Allah the One") According to the Bible Jesus (PBUH) is "Perfect" in Hebrew "Meshullam". "Meshullam" is same as Arabic "Muslim" according to Ellicott's Commentary. The word "Muslim" is in the Hebrew Bible Isaiah 42:19. Following are English translation of the word "Muslim" in different English translations of the Bible. ⦁ King James -------------------------"he who is perfect" ⦁ Ellicott's Commentary -------------"surrendered one" ⦁ World English Bible ----------------"he who is at peace" ⦁ American Standard Version--------" he that is at peace with me" ⦁ New International Version----------"one in covenant with me(G-d)" ⦁ New Living Translation----------------"my chosen people" ⦁ English Standard Version -------------"my dedicated one"
@alexanderrigby6917
@alexanderrigby6917 2 жыл бұрын
Let us mix truth with error. Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, the Almighty God, the God of the Bible said; take heed that no one deceives you. For false Messiah's and false prophets will arise. You are correct in insinuating that Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible, only in the context of the words of Yahshua Messiah. For false prophets will arise to deceive many. The prophet Muhammad lived by the sword and highlighted his false god, allah, the moon god, and certainly not the god of the Bible. Not to mention Muhammad lustful nature and pedophilia which is an abomination in the eyes of the God of lsrael. Have a look at the flag of lslam which symbol is the sickle moon and the sun. Baal hadad baal hadad which represents paganism and has its roots in Babylon. Revelation 18 says; Come out of her ( Babylon) my people lest you share in her plagues. Open your eyes and see that the salvation of God is only sought through His Son, Yahshua Messiah, the Lamb, the Way, the Truth, and the life. HalleluYah.
@kicha7868
@kicha7868 5 жыл бұрын
All you have done throughout the whole video is repeat the same thing for thirty minutes “OUR God” How about some biblical backup to refute who Jesus claims to be. Jesus is the First and the Last: Revelation 22 12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. 16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.” Jesus also says “my” angel. Don’t angels belong to God alone, how then therefore can Jesus make this claim? Its really quite simple as to how Jesus calls Himself the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and Omega. Because Jesus is God.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
See the other 300 videos on this channel
@kicha7868
@kicha7868 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion We are made in the Image of God. We have 3 parts to our nature, Mind, Flesh and Spirit. Just as our singular being of ourselves are 3 natures, so therefore is God, in whos Image we were created. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are to God as the Mind Flesh and Spirit are to humans, who are made in His image. Just because you cannot grasp this concept doesn't refute it.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
@@kicha7868 Your post is heresy in Trinitarianism. In Trinitarianism, God is not 3 natures or 3 parts. And you aren't a Triune "HE" either are you?
@kicha7868
@kicha7868 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion Because you can't comprehend the simplicity of my analogy, you call it heresy. In Triniarianism, God is 3 persons , not parts, please learn to distinguish. Equally distinct, yet inseparably God. The Father and the Son and Holy Spirit cannot exist without the other, can do nothing without the other. "Everything that the Father does, the Son does also" This is because of the perfect unity of the three persons. And yes, I am a triune "he". I am one person, yet I have a mind, a body and a spirit. Sometimes my mind thinks one thing, and my body does another, yet my spirit feels also another. Galatians 5:17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. Based on Galatians 5, how is it possible for our flesh (body) to desire something that is contrary to our spirit? How is it possible for a singular being, to wrestle against themselves and have different desires within themselves between their flesh and their spirit? This is because our own spirit and our flesh are separate persons of our own triune nature, which is given to us by God when He made us in His image. Just because you aren't capable of understanding this concept, doesn't make it heresy. It just makes you uneducated.
@ministermarkus9462
@ministermarkus9462 9 ай бұрын
shalo😮m israel
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Paul says Jesus was in the form of God before he took the form of humanbeing and also says Jesus was equal to God before he took the form of humanbeing. Do you agree with Paul?
@ct9042
@ct9042 5 жыл бұрын
You have many questions, and lots to learn. Refer to bible verses not your own opinion and interpretations.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The above are taken from Bible. If you read Bible, You will answer them. You will not comment they are my own interpretations.
@johndevisser3318
@johndevisser3318 5 жыл бұрын
Paul never said such a thing. You're a deceiver
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
You are a liar. You don't know Bible
@nikelemccain3664
@nikelemccain3664 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunkaraeliya2889 What you did sir was not quote the actual scripture but took bits & pieces of it & glued it together with your own understanding of the scripture. You believe your interpretation, so to you, you've done nothing. However, to those who disagree with you, we just want the original scripture itself so we can fairly assess. Just say the scriptures, not your understanding of them, at least not until the scripture has been seen.
@letusgather...7820
@letusgather...7820 Жыл бұрын
Salvation comes from the Jews....not the gnostics.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, was God alone before the creation of the world or was he with some beings before the creation of the world?
@blackholesun9068
@blackholesun9068 5 жыл бұрын
Sunkara Eliya the angels were there when he created the earth. Says they sung at the creation of the earth.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
You are right. They are called sons of God in Bible because they are in the form of God.
@therealtruth777
@therealtruth777 5 жыл бұрын
Enoch described Yahusha as the elect one of YHWH. Son of man, elect one, all those in heavenly realm new good and evil, many in the heavenly did not sin and have never sinned. We know many did sin and the devil is the chief of sinners. This elect one of YHWH reconciled heaven and earth. The fallen ones came to this earth as men, so it is no stretch the that this elect one, came here in the body YHWH prepared for him, he Yahusha, overcame in the flesh, just the same as he overcame in the heavens and thus redeemed us back to YHWH his Elohym and our Elohym, the Elohym of all heaven and earth. Yahusha overcame in the flesh just as we are to overcome in the flesh. You have a choice to accept Yahusha as the son of YHWH the elect one the redeemer of us back to YHWH and have no other God before YHWH or die in your sins, your choice.
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
He alone created the world. Was he with someone? That is not a biblical question.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Paul didn't say that
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, According to Paul, Jesus is the first born of all creation. He is before all things. What is this "all creation "?
@ct9042
@ct9042 5 жыл бұрын
Quote bible verses. Not your own false interpretations.
@cmcnadejda5960
@cmcnadejda5960 5 жыл бұрын
May I suggest you to go through the playlist of this channel and you will get answers to your inumerous questions. Take care
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
Bible speaks time and time and more time about reconciliation and new creation. Do you think it is important? Is it important for us to be one like he is one with the Father? Maybe that is what Paul is talking about? Maybe he only is speaking what Jesus was? Don't you think?
@watchtoweralert1
@watchtoweralert1 5 жыл бұрын
what a mess --every kid knows one=one--primary doctrine--Paul warned about this seduction
@randmanooooo
@randmanooooo 5 жыл бұрын
alun williams If you say one equals one please explain how Mark 10:7-8 fits into your definition “'Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh.” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:7-8‬ ‭ESV‬‬
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
This may be shocking to you but when you join one thing with another thing the two things joined together are now one thing. I just joined over 50 pieces of vinyl flooring together. Guess how many floors I had when I was done? ONE. Isn't that amazing?
@randmanooooo
@randmanooooo 5 жыл бұрын
The Trinity Delusion This response in no way refutes what Christians believe. In fact it supports trinitarians Let’s use your example with flooring but you have a small area like a closet and you only need three pieces. You join them together and have one floor. How is that different when Christians say the Father (1) and Son (1)are joined together through the power of the Holy Spirit (1) to be the 1 God of the Shema In short you have many pieces to make one floor. We have three pieces that make one God
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
@@randmanooooo So what? Three humans are one human nature. That's not a Triune human is it?
@randmanooooo
@randmanooooo 5 жыл бұрын
The Trinity Delusion You said “Three humans are one human nature” Great you are on your way to understanding the trinity. Three testifiers Father Son and Holy Spirit are one God in nature. (I don’t like to use the word persons when talking about the trinity. It makes it sound like all three are human people )
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, According to John who is Jesus? Does Jesus preexist?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
Now you have resorted to spamming. No spamming.
@Ronyron3053
@Ronyron3053 5 жыл бұрын
Sunkara Eliya Jesus is the word of God, because He was speaking the word of God. Jesus also states the words I speak isn’t my own. It’s the Father words
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
You are right.
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus have told you. He is the light of the world. John told you that Jesus and not John the Baptist is the light of the world. We are the light of the world. And the word of gospel is the light of the world and God is the one and true light that gave light to Jesus and every believer. It is the light coming out from the Father of lights as brother of Jesus - James have said.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to bother you, I did all this with the intention of telling the truth about God. I am sorry if I disturbed you. I won't comment again in your channel.
@therealtruth777
@therealtruth777 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video. One comment, the word *LORD does not exist in the scriptures* , yes adon/adonai = lord/Lord does exist in scripture but again *NOT* *LORD* . YHWH is the Elohym/God of Israel, NOT the LORD. No matter how you look at it YHWH = LORD is a false translation, it is as impossible as the trinity. YHWH is the father, YHWH is the Elohym/God of Jesus. Deuteronomy 6:4-5 KJVS Hear, O Israel: YHWH our ELOHYM/God is one YHWH : [5] And thou shalt love YHWH thy Elohym/God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. This is how it actually reads, *YHWH is one* , not 2 or 3, not a scisophinyc posing as 3 personallies, but ONE, only ONE being, only ONE name and that is His name forever, YHWH. You will never get a trinitarian to tell you who YHWH is, they can not answer that question.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
Adonai was never intended to be a TRANSLATION of YHWH but a substitute title for God instead of using His name. And LORD is indeed the right translation of Adonai. So "LORD" is not a mistranslation of YHWH but a correct translation of Adonai. And God is indeed called Adonai/LORD in Scripture.
@therealtruth777
@therealtruth777 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion Yes, adonai translates to lord, the capitalization is a matter of simatics . But I cannot find where God is referred to as adonai. Here is what I find. YHWH is referred to as adonai but elohym is not adonai, we find adonai YHWH, but not adonai elohym. Not here to argue if I am wrong correct me. Exodus 34:23 KJVS Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the adonai/Lord YHWH/God, the Elohym/God of Israel. Deuteronomy 10:17 KJVS For the YHWH/Lord your Elohym/God is Elohym/God of elohym/gods, and adonai/Lord of adonai/lords, a great Elohym/God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: Again capitalization does not exist in the scriptures, I am just saying so much confusion can be laid aside if we would just use our Elohym`s name which is in the scriptures over 6000 times. YHWH can never be TRANSLATED nor Transliterated as adonai or lord or god. This is *not* about the pronounce of YHWH'S name, Yahweh, Yahuah, Jehovah but if we use his name, all confusion can be put aside for those that might be seeking. Love your work!
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, who are the beings in the Bible that are called "gods " and why?
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
Elohim. Why are they called elohims? The same way you use word god. Why do you use it? Why do you think hebrew language is like any other language?
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Why does prophet Isaiah prophesies that messiah is called "The mighty god "?
@hannalehtimaki3891
@hannalehtimaki3891 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say because Father's name (meaning authority) is in him, name Yeshua means God saves and Immanuel means God is with us. Jesus says he has come in his fathers name, he is said to be a perfect image of God in whom all the fullness of Godhead is manifested bodily. God is ofcourse the father of Jesus also by the miracle of virgin birth. But also because HIS holy spirit lives in Jesus so in a way they are one as should we be one with them and each other, by the Spirit of God and his Christ...so then we all have same Father and God who is in all of us when we are truly believing in his Son (not going further, making our own theology apart from bible), the Messiah named in hebrew Yeshua, God saves. I'd say still, better to admit we don't nessessarily understand everything than claim to know and be in error. But I think the most important thing is to accept Jesus as our Lord and saviour and want to follow him into ALL TRUTH with all our hearts: Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 NIV
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
You are wrong. You don't know much about bible.
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
Read original text. There is the word Elgibor that is a name. Why some saviour would be called Elgibor? Because that was his name?
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
No .You are wrong..you go to original text to support your theology.
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunkaraeliya2889 Or even Gabriel. Both are legitimate names and Jews knowing hebrew actually say that.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, According to Bible, Does God have kingdom in heaven or he is alone in heaven?
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
It is not kingdom in heaven it is a kingdom of heaven. Kingdom of heaven on earth. Double check your Bible.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
No I don't agree with you
@SmiemWierzyc
@SmiemWierzyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunkaraeliya2889 So you think that kingdom of heaven is in heaven? Why?
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
What did Jesus teach in his prayer?
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
No you are wrong. God has kingdom in heaven. The bible clearly states this.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Why does Thomas call Jesus "my god "?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus explained this in detail in John 14. Why don't you hear him? kzbin.info/www/bejne/i16laIhmoK6sbrM
@keithfuson7694
@keithfuson7694 5 жыл бұрын
Why does God call men and angels gods? Jesus is only God in a relative representative sense. Jesus is the Christ the son of the living God. He isn't the Deity. Oneness Jesus only is false unbiblical. Jesus is not the Father. The Father is the God of Jesus.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas realises that Jesus represents God. So he called Jesus "my god " rather than "God ".judges, Moses, Jewish kings Are called gods on earth.
@keithfuson7694
@keithfuson7694 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunkaraeliya2889 Sometimes God is called my God by Paul such as in Ph4:19 so that's not a good argument.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas might have realised that Jesus is a divine being or Jesus is the image of the invisible God. In both cases according to Hebrew beliefs Jesus could be called "God ".but you should notice what Thomas said "my Lord my God ".Thomas think of Jesus as his Lord. Thomas believes that Jesus was the Lord appointend by God. So Thomas calls Jesus as God just like other hebrew kings being called but not as Lord God.but the explanation given by trinity delution is not correct.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, Why does Jesus claims to have glory before the creation of the world in John's gospel?
@ct9042
@ct9042 5 жыл бұрын
@sunkara eliya Question is, who is the God that Jesus worshipped? John 20:17 17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
@bosse641
@bosse641 5 жыл бұрын
@@ct9042 And God does not have a God. That alone should settle the question about Jesus being God.
@sunkaraeliya2889
@sunkaraeliya2889 5 жыл бұрын
No they're absolutely wrong.
@apologeticswithvladimir
@apologeticswithvladimir 5 жыл бұрын
The reason u don't accept Trinity is because your not looking for the truth, therefore, God is not reveling it to you.
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
Bunk.
@apologeticswithvladimir
@apologeticswithvladimir 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion Dr. Walter Martin covers this topic very deeply. Are you familiar with his work?
@TheTrinityDelusion
@TheTrinityDelusion 5 жыл бұрын
@@apologeticswithvladimir Yeah, it's laughable.
@apologeticswithvladimir
@apologeticswithvladimir 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion The name of your channel says it all on how much your willing to allow God in your heart. I witness to Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons for a while now and realize more and more that some things can't be understood without revelation from God. But He gives it only to those who are actually looking for it, and the name of your channel says that you already found what you were looking for, therefore in your case the door for receiving new revelations is deadlocked.
@apologeticswithvladimir
@apologeticswithvladimir 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrinityDelusion I'm not judging you, maybe I can be wrong about you, but based on what I hear from you is how I described your situation.
@thetrinitysolution9631
@thetrinitysolution9631 5 жыл бұрын
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