Whale Pump EP1642 upgrade to a Caravan Truma Ultraflow system

[@stephenbolton9044]

Excellent idea. Didn't realise that the fittings are the same. Have had problems with our truma pump, so will give it a go. Thanks

[@TheTrudgians]

No problems.

[@user-xh3lh9ck3t]

Another great Video! Thank goodness ive had Bailey caravans with the Whale pumps for the last 5 years. Prior to that i had a new Lunar Quasar with the Truma pistol grip pump, absolutely horrid! I always remember the pistol grip part kept coming apart. So now you have a UK company showing the Germans the correct way to make their own pumps!

[@suzannethomson9959]

Thank you so much! I thought it was just me that had this problem. My Dad, an experienced caravanner thought I was daft!

[@davidray9231]

Fantastic advice Dan. I didn’t even realise this design of pump existed. I’ve experienced exactly the same issues as you over the last 12 months with the Truma pump, so I bought the Whale after seeing this and what a difference it makes! I can stand my barrel upright now and no longer have to fill it up three times a day, despite it already being half full of water! Thanks again for the great tip.

[@SeasideVanlife]

Huge difference in these two items, the Whale pump looks so better made!

[@qedelec]

The submersible pump that came with our 2006 caravan, Truma Trauma, was a pathetic dribble. Les, bent my ear about it on several occasions. So I did some homework and bought a Whale. What a difference, I have carried the original for a few months in case there was a problem but the next trip will be a pump lighter.

[@johncooke2739]

Thanks Dan this is really useful. We too have a Lunar Clubman and we are away in Cornwall on our holiday. Arrived yesterday and the b****y Truma pump played up right from the off. Then we had a water leak under one of the beds so not using our system at present. I have had all of the issues you have mentioned and have also been fed up with it.Was going to buy another pump now it will be a Whale. Thanks for the info 😁

[@colinkuga8314]

Hi Dan I found the truma difficult to locate and the grip constantly falling apart. Took your advice and got a whale WOW what a difference, better flow and soooo much quieter many thanks keep up the good work

[@user-ll2vs8yv5k]

Just upgraded my old van to the ultra flow system and decided to buy the whale pp off the back of this video. Brilliant advice

[@TheTrudgians]

Excellent. FYI - I’m still using this very same pump now, even when I thought I broke it, it was just a corroded terminal on the caravan. - so they do last!

[@user-ll2vs8yv5k]

That's brilliant. Thank you for the video. 👍🏻

[@TravellingBox]

Dan, this is exactly the video I needed right now! Going off now to buy the Whale as I absolutely hate the Truma one. Causing me no end of issues. Thanks so much

[@runningdog80]

OMG thank you for this video, I've been at my whits end with my trauma pump. Dan you are a god, I'm on my second pump in 3 months as I thought the leaking was an issue with the individual unit, not the actual design. I had no idea you could change the brand of pump, naively I thought they were specific to the make of caravan. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@nickjennings3500]

Hi Dan, finally gave up with Truma & did the Whale Swap. Simple as! Works great. Thanks for the tip.

[@alexjreeves]

Wow! When I first saw this video, I wondered how anyone could talk about these pumps for 6 minutes. But what a brilliant, detailed, and clear review! I'm very impressed, and my motorhome doesn't even use one of these external pumps!! :-D But I'll certainly be checking out your other videos now. Thanks.

[@HeilandDee]

Great advice, thanks for sharing, we will get a whale pump as had all the problems you had and are fed up with reattaching the jubilee clip after all our water spewed out!

[@GetYourLegsDown]

We bought one of these about a year ago on the advice of the good folk at Jackson's of Old Arley when we had to replace the inlet plate. Much better product, it's much more flexible than the Truman one which always felt ready to break. Does seem to suffer more from airlocks though when swapping barrels.

[@TheTrudgians]

ah, thats a good point, Thanks for sharing ! Hope you are well Dan

[@kevinridoutt2127]

Great video and advice. I have had a terrible time with our Trauma pump.

[@mikesi5531]

Thanks for this very useful video! I had a whale-pump from the start but accidentally had it run dry (which happens quite easily). I replaced it with a comet pump which basically looks the same and was a little cheaper plus it has a 30min dry run capability. But I keep forgetting to turn the pump off in the van before I drive away in the car to get the aqua roll filled. There is much danger in damaging the pump again, so overall I'm not too happy about this design.

[@richardbarnes8413]

Brilliant! First time out with our recently purchased Sterling last weekend and we had a nightmare with the Truma pump. It had clearly been rolled fairly tightly by the previous owner, had a couple of nasty kinks so the flow was very slow, and was so inflexible that it kept rolling itself up out of the water in the aquaroll. It had worked ok on a warm September day when tested in our garden, but a cold November day on site was a different matter. A quick search on the 'net brought up your video and I'm delighted to find that whale have produced a better alternative. Mine's on order, I'm confident the air will be less blue next time out.

[@michaelvincent1425]

You must have read my mind. Exactly the same problem with my Quasar/Truma setup. I've been trying to solve this for a while. Will look into the Whale equivalent. Cheers.

[@TheTrudgians]

Happy to help

[@simonredmond6646]

Thanks Dan . Great advice. My Truma pump has now been relocated to bin !

[@morleycrabbe193]

You can get everything on Amazon

[@Lifeat39000ft]

Oh Dan you need to think outside the box! Get a spade dig a hole drop in the aquaroll and hey presto problem solved!

[@reiniervisser4682]

Same problem here, didn't knew about this whale solution. I changed the Truma hose by a sillicon protection hose and a sillicon innertube. I have the impression that this will work fine. No force to the connector, no bends.

[@mikebaddeley]

We have exactly the same problem Dan. Thanks for the great advice. We'll go Whale when we've had enough of Truma.

[@colinlbuchanan7934]

someone should let Truma engineers know ... amazed they can't work this our for themselves. Great video

[@spikeydave7368]

Watching this video and found myself thinking yes me too, and again, and again. Ordering a whale pump for that hassle free ease of use. Thank you for the video, most useful

[@jasetheace71]

I was convinced that the pump was inside the caravan and it was just a filter that sat in the aquaroll....your videos are amazing, saying that...i now have umpteen jobs to do at the weekend lol...water-pipe cleaning...gas-level checks...battery checks, although it does have a solar panel on the roof....damp-checks, have purchased a meter and will put it to good use :-) I have apps to download too, and also workout how our virgin media can transmit the F1 races to the smart tv....it's supposed to be a "weekend break" lol...

[@GlensOfLarne]

Another great video Dan and fantastic support for a great Northern Ireland company like Whale. Their customer service should you need to use it, is second to none. We have the Whale heating system on our Bailey and its great. We have had one issue with it whilst on holiday, they even sent their Managing Director to our caravan site to fix it for us, but luckily their phone engineer fixed it before he got there and the Manager Director was turned back.

[@maureenmcgrath4664]

Very interesting, thankyou. Just about to purchase my first second hand 2 berth caravan and find your videos invaluable as I'm a complete novice.

[@Martin-pv9lj]

Couldn't agree more with the issues with the Truma pump, it's a real pain when you're on an uneven pitch. I don't know about you, but I feel the water pressure is very low with it too. It's annoying to have to buy a different pump to solve this issue though, more expense.... Great video as usual!

[@omega7311]

Good vid Dan ,been there done that ,got fed up of reconnecting hose ,you would think the makers would see this problem ,anyway was looking around spares shop and saw a flexible double hose right length ,fitted same ,works perfect nice and flexible,will look at whale as my pump is getting a bit noisey

[@Ric_Crawford]

Been having the same issues. We're on site at the moment and I have actually broken the clip trying to get it to latch to the van. Like you say it's just too flimsy. Didn't realise I could change the pump, next on the list !!

[@SimonIngram]

Certainly very useful Dan. We currently have a Trauma, and have noticed how stiff it is and everytime I refill the Aquaroll it has to be removed and refitted again. The Whale looks a much better design. Looks like you've helped me spend money again, although for a beneficial reason! Best wishes to you all.

[@TheTrudgians]

Thank you Simon, Glad its helped. Take care Dan

[@stevechurchman1824]

Hi Dan. I agree. The Whale is a much better pump assembly all round. It is a bit longer than the Truma as well so suits more situations. Steve.

[@TheTrudgians]

Hi Steve, yes thats a good point also. Take care Dan

[@sishields4349]

Thanks for the info, you had the exact problems I'm faced with

[@antzm2459]

Get rid of the Aqua roll all together. Just buy the Truma Ultraflow Waterline that runs straight to tap. Saying that, the Truma Pumps are very tinny and it did leak a bit even when it was brand new when I first used it. Every time you unplugged it, it felt like it was going to break apart.

[@AdeleDawn0161]

Hi thank you for sharing this video I’ve been having this problem and broke the pipe today I will be ordering the whale 👍🙏

[@suzyg453]

At last! a quick easy explanation, thanks Dan, saved me loads of research!.

[@caravanalia4662]

Great Video Dan, We have a lot of customers approaching us asking for a Truma Ultraflow pump when we hand them the Whale Ultraflow pump they look at us a little 'surprised' . We advise them that we feel it's a much superior product and your words of wisdom supports this.

[@TheTrudgians]

Excellent stuff, if you would like to share this video on your site, you are more than welcome. Take care Dan

[@stewartpickersgill3921Freddie]

Hi Dan Brilliant Video. I have trouble with my Truma pump as well and Ive been blaming the onboard water pump for my problem but after watching you video I thought time for me to change my pump as well.Picked one up at the Caravan and Motorhome show I think I was robbed price wise but it cured my problem .At first fill when we set up and wanted to use water I had loads of water hammer at the onboard water pump. After just raising pump and andplacing back in the barrel a couple of times the water hammer has now gone which allows my onboard water pump to run quieter .. I thought this may help other users. Thanks again for the reviews

[@britannia55]

Thanks for that we are always having pump trouble and go through so many, will take a look at that one..

[@meknownothing]

A easy fix if your confident and a bodger. I would shorten both inlet and wiring to pump connector inlet so it wont bend to the extent of breaking or and leave enough to fit in to aqua roll.

[@nigelrobinson3277]

Just changed over to Whale and what a difference - I would not revert back to the Trumar pump which always was a nightmare

[@willowr305]

Hi, thank you for your advice on the whale pump v the Truma - I have had the same problems so I will be going for the Whalke next time

[@brianpenn8920]

Have a chat with your local roofer, ask them for a small sheet of lead and wrap it round the pump head. The weight will keep it down at the bottom where it belongs. Keep it tight with plastic pull through tie.

[@TheTrudgians]

Lead? in fresh water? nope. To keep it down, just use a straight section of plastic pipe, split down one side. that will hold the pump straight facing the bottom of the Aquaroll.

[@jimmorris1935]

Thanks for that. I have had the same problem so will give this a try.

[@pete1927]

Nice informative tip Dan, a year before we buy but it is on ze list! Thinking of getting the accessories as they appear on offer on t’internet.

[@steadycamuk1]

Well done dan the man. I like truma products and the company they are very professional and great at design....... however when we got our 2015 Lunar it came with a truma outboard pump and wed only used whale in all our previous vans. What an under whelming experience with exactly thr issues you said. So as ever brill video. More power to your elbow

[@TheTrudgians]

Thank you John. Take care Dan

[@M..R....]

Wished I'd seen this video earlier as we had this problem recently when we ran out of water at Burford (just after dark!). Re-filled the Aqua Roll and when connected with the Truma pump got drenched when the pipe connector had come off inside the pump connector at the caravan end. As a result got drenched , cut finger and sweaing trying to get the offending Truma clip back onto the pipe once back inside the caravan iwhere there was some light Ended up repairing with a s/steel jubilee clip and some electrical tape to stop the jubilee clip touching the spade connectors. My brother had the same problem with his coming off too. Anyone who hasnt replaced their Truma pump might want to do this fix before it happens to them. Now thanks to Dans vids off fix the loo warning light and make some LED awning lights.

[@pauldickson5387]

Another great, useful and informative vlog Dan. Looks a great product, thanks for sharing 👍🏻

[@DTSquared]

Just a minor point is that the trauma (spell checked changed it from Truma to trauma which is ironic) does actually have a similar clip to hold the pipe whilst you’re refilling. It’s the little blue clip on top of I remember correctly. Having said that you are entirely correct in that it is a dreadful design for all the reasons you pointed out. Wish I’d known that whale made that alternative but I have whale now anyway as changed van.

[@andrewfielden284]

Thank you. Not just me having problems with the Truma pump then. To be blunt, it's quite rubbish isn't it? We managed to over bend it, causing a leak. It's so flimsy and inflexible. Not a good design at all, come on Truma you can do better than this! So I'll take your advice and fork out for the EP1642, as we have a Truma ultra flow system.

[@richardbrunt8311]

Hi thanks for your superb video, I've got a Sterling Eccles Ruby that has an internal Flojet pump which is turned on or off by a switch on the control panel inside, does this pump just turn on by itself? cheers

[@AllyPally523]

Useful video.thanks We have the Truma system but our problem is different, namely, the system does not shut off when pressure is reached. perhaps a video highlighting the problem and the remedy?

[@timleaning6695]

It does always feel like it may break. But I just unplug the pump from socket Then lift from barrel Refill barrel Pump into barrel then its a straight run to plug back in. When my truma pump does break I will take your advice and purchase the whale equivilant. Cheers

[@30bren]

That's what I thought. Pretty simple really 🤣

[@30bren]

Would make the video too short though 😜

[@janicegalloway5636]

Always great info from you Dan. Thanks!!

[@TheTrudgians]

Thank you !

[@redsreds6598]

@@TheTrudgians Ok mate wonder if you could help please. I have got a bailey 2006 caravan. I am a complete novice to caravaning the problem I have is the pump is not turning off. It runs all the time even when all Taps are closed what could this be would I have to change the blue pump which plugs from van & sits in water butt. Any advice would be great thanks mate

[@thecorbies]

1st time to your YT channel, but I have to say, that was excellent. Excellent video and audio quality and content VERY well explained. Will check out your other videos and will probably subscribe on the basis of this one. Regards Mark in the UK

[@HitchUpAndTow]

my caravan has a Whale water system and I can say that I have had no problem with it ,but can't compare with other makes as I have only ever had whale.

[@biff6078]

If your like me and wondering does this pump make any difference to the water pressure in the van compared to the truma pump. Then read no further...it does...infact it’s like a power shower now compared to the once pitiful excuse of a shower produced by the truma pump. Purchased and tested this week.

[@eliotcurtis2155]

Nice one anyone got any good ideas to stop the noisy pumps that creates vibration through the swift caravan

[@seany991]

Hi , would you have any ideas on how to free the impeller, only used twice and it’s seized.

[@jamespaterson7405]

2006 Elldis crusader 2+2 with carva water system pump working but not when you plug it in turn the tap on and green light underneath the switch comes on but still won't operate the pump

[@rosalieburr6436]

Why doesn't the truma ultraflow pump fit into the barrel. Do you have to have a specific water barrel for these pumps the opening on the top is too small to put it in ??

[@stephenwhittaker8063]

Hi Dan just taken your advice and upgraded to the whale pump, not able to test it yet due to our van being in for shower repair. I am thinking about the fix for the pump turning up in the water container.

[@philipvayro6293]

Hi can you please tell me how would you clean the food grade water pipe that you use on a serviced pitch ???

[@iansimpson4911]

We are caravan newbies; We have Truma Ultraflow, no filter + Water Hog Tank; Blue cap on pipe is too small for the water hog threaded outlet so we either need to get an acquaroll that fits the Truma pump etc or a Whale pump that fits the water hog...can you advise us? Also it strikes us that if you are on a serviced pitch with mains water, the Truma Ultraflow can take that flow without needing the pump to operate...We have a 2013 Eccles Sport 442

[@season.appreciation8102]

Thanks Dan, lots of helpful advice.

[@TheTrudgians]

No problem, glad to be of service Dan

[@turbojones8562]

Brilliant. My problem solved. Thank you so much.

[@harley0602]

Thanks for this.

[@Tommywinkles]

Another great Vlogg again Dan. Can i ask you your Truma Ultraflow had the pump on the end, My Truma has a filter with a onboard pump is there a Whale adaptor for that one? been on to Whale website and it is a little confusing for me.

[@lil18526]

Hi, we have a bailey grande pegasus rimimi used last year fine great water pressure, this year water pressure is very very low. The pump pipe was kinked and i have had to fix the metal clips back on as one came off on this pump. Do you think this will be causing such low water pressure? Thanks

[@lukeroberts4902]

Hi. Does this pump fit the Bailey ranger 2008 500/5 caravan? Thanks.

[@Hawks1980]

Huge thanks for this Dan, I've been struggling to work out which Whale Pump model replaces that Ultraflow. We've been away twice now in our new caravan and I'm not a fan of the Truma pump so have been looking for a replacement.

[@kevinsnewing]

Hi Dan, We have the Truma pistol grip thingy but no pump on the end, the pump is onboard. Same issue though its a pig to fit or remove, the whole fitting on the 'van side flexes and I'm sure it'll shatter in cold weather. Do Whale do a version to replace the Truma jobby i.e. pistiol grip and hose but no pump? Buying the part you show for c£50 then cutting off the pump would be a bit steep.

[@brendascourfield3862]

Hi Dan, we have a Coachman 575/4 7 years old with Truma system. Have bought a Whale pump to replace our Truma one. The Whale pump will not work though the Truma one does. Is our van and Truma smart switch programmed to only work with Truma pumps ? Many thanks Brenda

[@neiljerram854]

thanks dan thats my problem sorted

[@dianecollins9966]

Did you the whale was quicker to pump the water..we have Truma it takes forever to fill ,?

[@vicvickers2112]

Having problem with my pump water coming back under trigger

[@paulruffy8389]

Have had issues with the Trauma (as you have) and do not like the design at all so going for a Whale. Do you have any advice for adjusting the pressure to avoid all the pump noise? Or did the Whale pump sort this? One guy said the pumps are supposed to over-run for a few seconds after you switch a tap off to pressurize?

[@DanielTejnicky]

I have 2003 version of this, and it does nothing. i plug camper to CEE 230V, - confirm we have electricity, I fill aquaroll, get it to the campler, submerging the hose with the bump, go in turn on pump AND? Nothing, not a drop of water, not burp not a sound. Pump seems dead. which is awesome - I try this with heater off (cause what it would heat?) and yellow leaver (near the heater) is down. No solutions on the internet, everyone is upgrading from newer system than I have anyways or is solving issues about internal pump. Send help! xD

[@slider21212]

cable tie a length of cane to the pump/tube and it will sit straight in the water hog

[@Youtube_deleted_my_favourites]

Yep gotta agree, the whale pump is loads better

[@cdmtravels5723]

hi dan great review lots of usefull info for future reference thanks

[@haro.1860]

Hi can you do a video on noisy internal pumps. We have a 2009 Buccaneer Caravel and the pumps are very noisy I can’t find a Uk video on quietening then down or a quite replacement.

[@andrewterry7746]

Hi all. Has anyone who has bought the Whale pump suffered with the connector (to the caravan) intermittently coming off and resulting in no pump/water? Used the Whale pump about 4 weekends and it's self detached 3 times despite me making sure the connector is "fully home" into the caravan piece and the blue clip as far as I can see, is located over what appears to be a locking tab. Never had this occur with the Truma pump/connector. Thanks in advance.

[@daleycapps3198]

Hi did you get more pressure in the shower with the upgraded whale pump

[@michaelireland6490]

Hi Dan - I followed your lead and swapped water pumps and there has been a positive difference. However, it still float up in the aquaria. So, having looked at your recent video on 'The Aquaroll' I noted your comment on the 'Pump Connection' which holds the pump at the bottom of the container. So I bought one. I think you know what comes next - how do you use it? Do I have to disconnect the pump from the hose and electrics and thread it through then re-connect? Or have I just lost the plot!! Your advise would be very much appreciated. Trust you and your family are well and well have good times away this summer. Cheers. Mike

[@liamahearne1645]

Is the new pump you bought a more power full pump

[@chrisbradley5247]

Hi very informative video. I have an older caravan, our first van. The water inlet is broken. There is a hair line crack inside the van. It's a cascade. Do you know if I can convert it to a whale?

[@nickycharlton4120]

Hi, I have an internal pump which I’m having no end of trouble with it constantly trying to pressurise (definitely no leaks!) can I remove my internal pump and just have the external one?

[@TheTrudgians]

Yeah, i see no reason why not. new housing, and attach the existing wiring to the new terminals. If you use the Whale housing, they have 3 terminals (2 for power, 1 for illuminating the pump in use led) and an inbuilt pressure switch. The housing requires a 12v feed (always on when the pump is switched on from the panel) - so this might be the neatest solution for you.

[@andyobrien7203]

Hi Dan. Another great video. Just purchased our first van and found your content invaluable. Quick question about this... Do you find you still have a fair amount of water in the barrel when the pump is not able to draw water?? Any tips to get the most out of the barrel?? Get the most pipe in??? Just enough to touch the bottom?? Tia. Andy

[@damianmeehan345]

Link to Amazon states its 12 Volt? Is it electric?

[@lesjsin]

Hi Dan. First timer here with a Lunar Ultima 2015. I have the Truma Ultraflow, which came with the van. Stored in the sink bowl, it has several kinks, problem one, and lifts in the aquaroll so sometimes it's running dry, and it's sheer luck I hear it and rush out to dip it into the water. Will the whale model here replace this one? If so, I'll get one and keep the truma for a spare. Thanks so much for your advice. Les

[@nicholaslloyd1067]

Very useful video. Do the caravan indicators and pump auto-stop still work as they should if you use a Whale as opposed to a Truma?

[@willowr305]

Sorry, sent that too early. What I was going to say was, I appear to have the Truma Ultraflow fitted but I cannot tell if it is the standard one, the compact or the winter. It is a bit confusing. What I WANT to do is fit a filter system so I was looking at the conversion kits for the Ultraflow. The trouble is I don't really know what I have now so I don't know if there is a replacement and , if there is, what one to go for. My aim is to filter the water coming into the caravan. It is potable water but I want to take out the taste and particulates. I really cannot work out where I am now and if there is a suitable solution. Any ideas? Ray

[@christianhowells6204]

The white rubber that attaches the pump to my aquaroll keeps popping off. Very annoying! Any tips for this?

[@TheTrudgians]

Ohh, perhaps add a velcro cable tie or bag tie to tighten the white sleave a little around the pipe?

[@nickdarcy8636]

Great product review! I didn't know that Whale did a Truma fitting but now I do I will be getting one for next season. The truma pump is glued on to the pipe which meant I could not replace it with a generic pump when I had an issue a while ago. Is the Whale one the same, or is there just a jubilee clip?

[@bobblack4048]

Hi, I have just changed my Caravan, I now have a Compass Corona 505. I appear to be using a lot more water in this van compared to the Elddis Riviera 482 I used to have. They both had the Truma water heating System. The problem I have is the heater over flow is constantly dripping, sometimes quite rapidly when the hot tap is open. Is there anything I can do to stop the Leak Please.

[@beermonsterbrewing4873]

Amazing i have used the same pump on the same van for years no problems. What people will do for a freebee these days very ssd

[@TheTrudgians]

what freebee ?

[@jasonrussell8122]

Love to know how to fit this setup to my system. If I need to keep my old system and add this to it or is there a way of using both together. Have a hobby kmfe 650 2017 with 50lt water tank. What would I need and how I could connect it.

[@edwardcharles9764]

Exactly the same problem myself and this will solve them I'm sure. What it won't solve is the Truma rip off inlet filter cap. That's around £12 but eventually the blue cap itself will leak. Solution is a new O ring but you can't get them, you have to buy the entire cap at an average £25! Go to an engineers supplier, the O ring is 2.5mm x 70mm and a pack of 10 is, (wait for it) - £2.65!!! 26 pence compared to Truma "well corner the market by restrictive availability" £25! As if we're not taken for a ride enough by "servicing" that's actually no more than checking it works regardless of miles/work done, I'm also wrestling with a Dometic toilet with a seal that lasts about 3 weeks and costs £40 to replace! Have to say I think it's high time Lunar looked at this rubbish and all manufacturers restricted the over pricing to their customers if they want to install in their vans. The industry is about 30 years behind the motor trade and reminds me when there was a time a car salesman or mechanic couldn't be trusted!

[@alanpostma5861]

Hi Dan I can’t get water pump to pump water into the caravan do you know what the problem is it a new pump every thing els works fine ta

[@TheTrudgians]

Assuming the pump light is on, when you switch on the caravan, I would look at the contacts of the pump and where the pump connects to the caravan. If possible run a nail file over the metal contacts to brighten and remove any corrosion.

[@alanpostma5861]

@@TheTrudgians if that don’t work then what els can it be I’m away in the caravan for the first time then get to the camp site to set up then the pump don’t want to work ☹️👍