The WEIRD & Wonderful Oddities of Thomas Home Media

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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
2:23 Distress in Dubbing
13:37 What's in a Title?
18:35 Let That Sync In
25:28 The Echo
30:34 Can You Hear the Music?
35:58 Canceled... or Not?
42:16 Bottom of the Iceberg
58:24 Tug's Pick of the Week + Patreon Shoutouts
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• Atomic Amnesia MMX song

[@Oliver11GWR]

Hey Tug, thanks for making this video and publishing it on my birthday! I was very glad to help with checking the script and providing some source material for your editing use. Any more questions you have on Thomas media, feel free to ask! Here are some additional notes for collectors/total Thomas nerds: 7:20 'Tis a Gift was first released on VHS in 1992. 9:49 Engine Friends also has the US Ringo dub of Trouble in the Shed (first time it was released on DVD in the US along with the two Trevor episodes). 15:08 "Tenders and Turntables and Other Stories" got retitled "Tenders and Turntable and Other Stories" (no "s" at the end of "Turntable") on the 1992 front cover and the left and right spines. This also got carried over to the 1994 Time-Life VHS cover, spines and VHS label as well. 38:00 So far, only three (maybe four) copies of the "early master" of Percy's Ghostly Trick have been found by Thomas fans. All of the tapes we've documented that have the "early master" are blue cassettes (as you mentioned) and they have the number "350441" on the lid (the blue flap that says "Do not touch the tape inside"). This means that, if you find a blue tape Ghostly Trick, look for "350441" on the lid. If it has a different number, it's likely to be the standard 2000 master instead of the "early master". 40:08 All of the James Goes Buzz Buzz tapes that Thomas collectors have found with Thomas' Christmas Party have a print date of October 14, 1994. Any print date within a few days of this might also have it. To see the print date, look on the bottom of the tape (the side that is facing out when you put the tape into a VCR). It'll have white text showing the VHS title and the date and time the VHS was manufactured. Mine and a few other copies with Christmas Party at the end say "101494" in that print date text which means 10/14/94 or October 14, 1994. 41:41 Some George Carlin Thomas Gets Tricked VHS tapes have a little sticker on the front cover that says "Kids First!". Other Thomas VHS covers from early 1995-1996 also have this sticker, so, if you see one with that sticker, it's a pretty good indicator on the front cover that it could possibly be the George Carlin master. Notably, they still use the 1992 cover style as I think the cover redesign hadn't been completed by that early in 1995. The best identifier for the Carlin tape, however, is the unique VHS label and early 1995 print date. 43:14 The font used in the HiT era title cards was actually not Flange BQ (though Flange BQ looks amazingly similar). The font is actually a slightly modified font aptly named Sodor Bold. 44:01 The Bumper Party Collection! DVD isn't the only time the UK dub of S7 was paired with Hartshorne's re-score. S8 and S9 half-hour airings on Nick Jr. in the UK also featured the Hartshorne re-scores and, interestingly enough, 12 of the 13 S8 half-hour airings were released on DVD in South Africa (3 airings were also released on VHS in South Africa) with Michael Angelis' narrations and Robert Hartshorne's music. This includes 3 of the 4 episodes featured on the Bumper Party Collection! DVD (What's the Matter with Henry?, Gordon and Spencer and Three Cheers for Thomas). The syncing between the narration and dubbing track is very slightly different between the half-hour airing versions and the Bumper Party Collection! DVD versions (this also happened in the US on the Track Stars VHS/DVD episodes when compared to the half-hour airings). All this said, you're right about one episode: Rheneas and the Roller Coaster. Bumper Party Collection! is, in fact, the only ever time the UK got a trace of Rheneas and the Roller Coaster with Michael Angelis' narration paired with Robert Hartshorne's music because Rheneas and the Roller Coaster didn't air in the half-hour airings on Nick Jr. in the UK/PBS in the US/Treehouse in Canada. 45:53 This is my opinion and I could be wrong here but I don't think Anchor Bay knew in advance that their contract with HiT was ending in 2008. HiT pretty suddenly moved its US distribution exclusively to Lionsgate in late 2008 without Anchor Bay getting much notice. Anchor Bay could have possibly planned Thomas Meets the Queen for a 2009 DVD release but never were able to do so.

[@filipfuksa3057]

Where are the jump scares

[@MrLegoman86]

And this is why you are the goat of Thomas home media knowledge! ✨

[@GuyThatLikesYohane]

Who was the first person to discover Thomas Christmas Party on James goes buzz buzz? Also any guess as to why it was put after the credits?

[@Oliver11GWR]

@@GuyThatLikesYohane To be honest, I don't know who discovered Thomas' Christmas Party on the James Goes Buzz Buzz VHS or why it was put after the end credits.

[@Donald9anddouglas10]

Can oliver11gwr please send me wild water rescue, james goes buzz buzz, engine friends and thomas snowy supries. I really need those dvds. Can you please help me and send them to me.

[@loganmcpherson6873]

8:19 “Silence!” And there was.

[@StarBlitzCrash]

bruh 😭✋

[@mickeydix8062]

it almost feels like he’s trying to demonstrate what silence is

[@TankEngine97]

I think the 'Look out for the train' bit is probably the most bizarre thing that slipped through the net in terms of these oddities. And you'd be surprised how many people claim that this oddity is not real.

[@KenKen3593]

I love this one. It feels like a meme.

[@TankEngine97]

@@KenKen3593 I think it was for a bit.

[@MovieFan1912]

And yet, GWR Studios proved it WAS real during a live stream on Christmas Eve years ago. Just go to the time code [2:16:39] if you are still skeptical about this oddity.

[@coledakers6127]

56:45

[@LittleJerryFan92]

I remember as a kid that really creeped me out when I first heard it on the 1992 Strand Home Video release I had rented from a local video store. I was REALLY confused what had just happened. Then a couple days later I got a personal copy of the 1995 tape with the original 1990 Strand VCI program and saw that little Sir Topham Hatt message at the end. That ALSO confused me why the previous tape didn’t have that, but I had shrugged it off, but I was confused why I didn’t hear that audio glitch. For years, I had thought maybe I hallucinated it until I read about that glitch being on “one version” of the episode via tv tome (RIP) and tried looking on all copies I had of the episode……. Nothing. I was even MORE confused. Then I saw someone upload the glitched audio years later on KZbin in 2007 and…… it all came flooding back to me when I got familiar with which version of that tape had the glitch. Honestly it is a strange glitch but I do also hate that the Thomas fandom milked it to death and turned it into a meme.

[@Railroadracer49]

As GWR studios once said *LOOK OUT FOR THE TRAIN*

[@MovieFan1912]

Yes! Finally! Thank you!

[@kevinkeenan-2.1]

😂😂😂, what?

[@coldcallerloopy]

I'm glad someone else pointed it out lol. Whatever happened to him? I see the channel's still up but went dead after the Polar Express video.

[@thomasandfriendsrailway]

dam

[@icebreakergaming2296]

GWR studios has been posting on his car channel called Neo Auto.

[@OmegaKirby6452]

"Look out for the train" is the same equivalent to Mortal Kombat 4's "Alright"

[@greycatturtle7132]

Yea 😂

[@iammaybeabro4598]

ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS LOOK OUT FOR THE TRAIN, CJ!

[@GamerTTTEBrony]

Honestly reminded me of Crash Team Racing's "Penguin Yay 1/Penguin Yay 2" lol

[@OmegaKirby6452]

@@GamerTTTEBrony Ahh yes, The only reason I've ever mained Penta Penguin in the first place.

[@ultra6671]

That, or MST3K's "Watch out for snakes!"

[@ethandouro4334]

The first one was actually really eerie, it felt as the "every copy is personalized" kind of situation

[@Matt.The.Boyfriend69]

Every Thomas The Tank Engine VHS/DVD Is Personalized.

[@uhuhmwell]

Fun totally not deadly drinking game: take a shot every time Tug says "howeeeverrrr"

[@andydoms2001]

Being an early 2000's kid, I'm part of the last generation to have lived through the golden era of home media. I miss the good old days of watching my old Thomas and Friends VHS' and DVD's so much.

[@margogoralski6294]

Same here, man

[@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan]

Don't forget Blu-ray.

[@felixwilson2917]

Amen

[@roberttreacy8271]

Same here.

[@AJsBusVideos]

Oh yeah same

[@BrandonHargus]

Just gonna point out that the reason Trouble For Thomas got so effed up later on is because their master source for Carlin was just ripped directly from Shining Time Station. You can even hear it start as such on the A Big Day VHS.

[@JamesIsHere5]

I FOUND YOU

[@KyleKozmikDeLuxO]

THAT whistle...

[@KeefJudge]

"Bill and Ben's Excellent Adventure" is an amazing episode title. Shame they never did "Bill and Ben, the flowerpot engines" (a much older reference).

[@NewController01]

I agree...or the SCC having a third engine called the Little Weed

[@s.p.d.magentaranger1822]

EXCELLENT!!

[@WhenYourNumbersUp]

Wait. I haven't watched the video in full, so, roast me if I'm misunderstanding They nearly made a Bill and Ted reference?! I love it!!! Especially since George Carlin was in the first two movies

[@jaredparks4713]

I agree, but also, Buffer Bother is such a boring episode that's neither an adventure nor features one of the twins for most of it (I don't remember which) so I'm glad they didn't waste the title on it.

[@MovieFan1912]

@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822🎶🎸🎶

[@MovieFan1912]

I am just waiting to hear a mention of “Look out for the train.” I remember that old video that GWR Studios made years ago. Edit: Aha! Here it is. 56:43-56:46

[@steventhememer]

This was my exact thoughts while watching lol

[@Louie-WanKenobi-og4rk]

Yeah, his videos are so funny.

[@kevinkeenan-2.1]

Why is that in there 😂😂😂?

[@MovieFan1912]

@@kevinkeenan-2.1 Don’t ask me.

[@hectorsproductions2018]

56:35 I remember back in 2017 when watching Goof videos from GWR Studios and he pointed out the audio error. For a short time after, the "Look out for the train" became a joke and meme. But, i dont understand how is this still obscure after the views regarding the audio.

[@Wildcatt1999]

Same here. I miss GWR studios :(

[@thomasnsonic123]

Yeah, I remember that. Though, correct me if I’m wrong, for sometime until his livestream covering the goofs in Thomas’ Christmas Party, many people thought that audio mistake wasn’t real and thought that he himself did it as a joke.

[@aceproductions43]

@@thomasnsonic123 correct, that's exactly what happened

[@QJ89]

I remember this being brought up on the Sodor Island Forums, as if it were some urban myth which you could vaguely hear in the audio.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

"New Friends with Thomas" is such a bizarre little DVD. It's simultaneously one of two American DVDs with Mike and Junior's Season 7 score and the only American DVD with Michael Angelis's thoroughly apathetic narration (blame having to use American terminology). That, and Spencer's got two funnels on the cover.

[@Randomstuffs261]

Chernobyl Spencer

[@jonathanadair6847]

Blame HiT for his slower narration. I’m sure that if the HiT executives let him, Angelis would have still been energetic like he was in seasons 3 through 6.

[@Miguel-Thleomuy]

This is unrelated to Thomas but bluey episode called tickle crabs has in the Xfinity release for some reason after the episode end the title card and the intro and outro without any words and with no audio it was the creepiest thing I ever saw and in no longer to my knowledge because it was changed to the original episode that's on Disney Plus

[@backbonepictures78]

Maybe they were trying to make him into a double chimney A4 Nah they just fucked up

[@Canadiansteamer43]

​@backbonepictures78 as someone whose dad once worked for hit, they were trying to give him a double chimney

[@NascarNick2488]

There’s another oddity. If you watch the Roku Channel version of Thomas & Gordon which is narrated by George Carlin, after Gordon and Thomas arrive at Wellsworth, and the narrator says “At last they stopped at a station. Thomas was uncoupled and he felt very silly and exhausted”, it changes to Ringo Starr’s narration and then it switches back to Carlin’s. It’s an odd one but it’s also pretty cool to hear 2 different English speaking narrators in 1 episode.

[@cade32X]

I caught that same error when watching the episode on Sensical Jr.

[@joefrew1614]

It’s got that same bizarre error on the streaming Amazon Prime Video version

[@squarepants7748]

Was waiting to see if this comment would appear in the video...but guess it's not really a home release oddity

[@jmredguppy2799]

Wait wha?! How did they f*ck it up?! Did like the Audio for Carlin’s dub got corrupted for that one part or something and they had to grab Ringo’s to replace it?

[@chishnfips877]

8:15 "We'll see..." *evil grin rubbing his hands together*

[@1993seanmcg]

“Yes. We'll see… We'll see if he's cool when we subject him to the Apple Jacks Test.” “Not the Apple Jacks Test!” “YES THE APPLE JACKS TEST!” A little NC reference

[@PapaCoco1128]

I love “Look out for the train 🤭” so much. As a kid I thought it was so weird, and I’m so glad we have people like you to keep these little quirks alive.

[@Danominator]

"Toby the train engine" sounds like a Chinese knockoff, I love it 😂

[@ryanfuller912]

The Classic Series had the most wonderful media. Everything about those 7 Seasons triumphs every other era including the home media.

[@Comicfield1]

It's probably just nostalgia but the HIT Era DVDs had some cool stuff on them too. Even if the episodes, even at the time, were very lackluster compared to the classic stuff (Though once in awhile a classic episode will be slipped in from what I remember)

[@NewController01]

There is ONE other thing to add...in most versions of the story Whistles & Sneezes, there was always this little music during the line "Gordon puffed sadly away" but for some reason, it's not heard in the original UK version, except for the "Double Audio" version of Coal & Other Stories

[@NewController01]

Just remembered something, in the case of "Thomas and his friends help out" there are some versions of it that have this one line from STH at the end of Foolish Freight Cars "After that performance, you deserve to keep your red coat" the only other time you HEAR that line, is in the Shining Time Stn airing of said story

[@TheCreepersGood]

18:00 Not to MENTION, George Carlin is a main actor in the very same movie. Coincidence? Probably. Still cool though.

[@WAJTN03]

Coincidence? I Think NOT!

[@noahcharles2274]

Troublesome Trucks (“Foolish Freight Cars”) and Down the Mine each have one line of dialogue cut on the Thomas and his Friends Help Out DVD I had-with the latter episode having the whole segment featuring the dialogue line cut rather than simply muted as in the former. I’m guessing it was a damaged tape that the distributor ripped from for the DVD release.

[@toon4thought]

The Foolish example was likely because the line in question (STH saying James deserves to keep his coat) doesn't make sense without the context of the previous one, but that hasn't been a concern in any other instance (including within the same tape), not to mention the episode opens by referencing the bootlace.

[@ryhi5]

The Trust Thomas 1995 VHS was my very first exposure to Thomas in my life! Toby and Mavis made me laugh, Henry’s Forest made me cry, and No Joke for James introduced me to my favorite character! Damn, that’s some good nostalgia!

[@Tophams_No.6]

Henry's Forest made me cry as a child as well lol.

[@H3nryPlay5]

When I heard “Look out for train” I got flashbacks of GWR Studios

[@Leo_G_Cady]

I miss GWR Studios, man❤️

[@TrainsCatsOtherStories]

​@@Leo_G_Cady Why did he stop making content? Do we know?

[@ChillSmoke-vm9nz]

​@@TrainsCatsOtherStoriesNo

[@alessandroscidone5271]

I know why. He now works for some company called “NeoAuto”. I don’t know why he didn’t at least make a Goodbye Video.

[@comicfan1324]

The best part about the old Thomas home media, particularly from season 6, is all of the bonus features you can listen to. Whether it’s fun and games, read along, or even character, bios, revealing lie vs,, you might not know about them. For example, these character galleries revealed that Harvey lives lives at the Sodor Waterworks

[@TylerDElliot]

Not typically the type to comment but holy dude. You have improved so much as a creator. Not to discredit any past works, but you have really nailed your cadence and editing. Genuinely a top tier creator. You know your stuff and it shows. Looking forward to seeing what you make next! Hoping for more model content tbh, I adore your take on things

[@MisterDanielTofu]

Glad that Tug touched on the "Look out for the train" line in Thomas and the Trucks, and the out-of-sync dialogue and music in the last few minutes of the episode. It's also nice he touched on the out-of-sync dialogue in Thomas and Percy's Mountain Adventure; its quite the oddity.

[@Thomas1Edward2Henry3]

Here are reasons or my theories: "Off Thomas Ran...": Most likely a mixup where the VHS company got an earlier US version that ended up not being used in Shining Time. Ringo Dubs: I think (and rightly so) they wanted to still give credit to Ringo now and again, particularly in later years. Most Americans still associate him with Thomas. Best of Percy was probably a one off experiment they did that wasn't continued in the other "Best Of" videos for whatever reason. I actually did a similar thing where I made a custom Best of Henry and had Whistles & Sneezes as as "custom" Ringo US dub (easy to do as STH is only said once). Extended Thomas Gets Tricked VHS: I reckon maybe they had planned to release this as a larger VHS like Get Along or Help Out, either as the original with bonus episodes or just some combination video like Ultimate Christmas. Carlin's Thomas Gets Tricked took forever to get out on video, not until the Halloween DVD. US Titles: I think this was simply to make the titles more appealing or unique. You have to admit, most of the UK titles are just "Character & Character/Thing". However they did go too far with some just adding "The" like The Gallant Old Engine. Echoing VHS: Daisy seemed to have the worst "echoing" and I wonder if that was due to that and Percy's Predicament not appearing on Shining Time Station so they had to do their own edit which made it more screwed up. The echoing could have also just been issues with audio mixing from different sources. I do know the Wallace & Gromit DVD I have is slightly slower speed because of some PAL conversion issue from the UK. Thomas & the Jet Engine was a unique one for me as they went through the effort to put the original music back with Michael Brandon. Why couldn’t they release S7 on DVD with the original music?

[@MurdochA9F]

ITS YOU

[@retroflashbackdude]

Interestingly, the UK dub of Wrong Road had the busy theme play while Mr Conductor explains how Gordon and Edward’s evening trains run, which was cut from the US dub. TBH cutting the busy theme from the US dub worked cause that theme felt out of place to me in that shot.

[@harryfoley2294]

35:12 interestingly, this is also the version that plays at Drayton Manor’s Thomas Land over the speakers in the area.

[@MovieFan1912]

Does anyone else think that could make for an interesting topic for a video?

[@spinballpac-man]

Damn! I wished I listened out for it when I was there last year 😂

[@Steamenginesunited3456]

Thomas always had a pretty nice home media run. Especially in the early years.

[@henryfreeman1256]

The alt title of "Bill & Ben's Excellent Adventure" for Buffer Bother is a little less out of place when you learn George Carlin plays a major character in the original film

[@s.p.d.magentaranger1822]

EXCELLENT! (guitar riff)

[@cbw06]

49:21 I mean that transition between 2000s and 80s footage might be the weirdest thing I've ever seen

[@karenfan010]

0:46 a hit era transition with a season 2 episode now I’ve seen everything.

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

Now I feel like the opposite should happen. A Classic Era Transition with a HIT Era episode. No reason other than I think it would be funny

[@karenfan010]

@@IsleofPigsStudios dose season 7 count?

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

@@karenfan010 Depends. It’s a complicated case so this is a league of its own

[@bennewbury2572]

I will say that timing at 6:55 with the line by James and the music intro then cutting right as the main theme kicks in, that’s perfect

[@retroversals081]

I had known about the "Look out for the train" line ever since GWR Studios pointed it out in his Thomas and the Trucks Goofs video. He got comments saying the line wasn't real, even when he played it live on his TV during a Christmas special. The "Look out for the train" line became such a meme on his channel, with it being quoted and referenced in other videos. As a kid, I never really believed him on that goof, but it was shocking to see now that he was right all along. Great video Tug!

[@TheAnimationAnalyst]

The "look out for the train" thing is interesting for me, because I never owned a "Thomas Gets Tricked" VHS myself, but rather I came across it when my family stayed at a motel in Georgia for a vacation, and the rooms had a small collection of random VHS's (I guess to entertain kids like me, at the time), and one of them was a Ringo Starr release of said VHS, which I want to say was my first exposure to these dubs of the episodes included. And, of course, it was one of the releases that included said "look out for the train" goof, which I distinctly remember being so caught off guard by, even back then when I was 12 years old, that I rewound that part over & over just to make sure I wasn't just hearing things. So, when it started becoming a big revelation to the fandom in the past decade or so that this goof existed in select releases of this VHS/episode, I was (probably) one of the few who had seen living proof that it really existed. Anyway, I also have my own theory as to why this very weirdly specific goof exists: so when they were re-editing the audio for the episodes for the original US release(s) (since Ringo Starr had to redo some lines in the episodes with "Americanized" terminology), the person in charge of editing must have made an error while doing so and accidentally left a gap in the original filmed footage of the final shot used in Thomas and The Trucks (sort of similar to the "echo" goofs you brought up in this video with the "dubbing track" sometimes getting left in by accident). So, I think the person who said "look out for the train" is most likely one of the original series' crew members (maybe someone giving the camera operator directions for the panning shot up Gordon's Hill). Now, as for why this goof seems to only exist on the SECOND release of the VHS and onward (til 2007), I have no idea, but then again a lot of the other goofs you brought up in this video are weird & hard to explain how it could have happened...

[@SocieteRoyale]

except of course the original crew of the production were not American, the voice is clearly in a US accent.

[@MattPicsET]

9:18 I distinctly remember Percy Takes the Plunge as I had both the VHS and DVD versions with Ringo’s narration wedged between George Carlin. My dad tried telling me he was the famous drummer for the Beatles, but I was too focused on reenacting the episode with my Trackmasters. :D

[@Trainos_Brainos]

The fact that on early vhs's you could just get an extra episode is very fascinating. Trying to find one of the early versions is like trying to win the lottery.

[@therealzachmanawesomeness]

Trivia: In Thomas & Friends Classic Volume 1, in the episode, “Thomas Gets Tricked”, while the George Carlin narration normally plays, a brief snippet of Ringo Starr’s narration can be heard near the end of the episode.

[@tidalskii]

I absolutely adore Junior Cambell’s singing voice in the Gone Fishing music video, I was never aware of the fact that wasn’t intended to be released. Very intriguing vid.

[@toon4thought]

I especially like hearing Junior over the child voices during the chorus, with him lingering on "on your way" noticeably longer.

[@primrosevale1995]

That draft version was also on the Thomas' Songs & Roundhouse Rhythms album. I remember buying that off iTunes and wondering why it sounded different to the version I remembered.

[@brind4001]

He sounds a lot like Roger Hodgson (Supertramp lead singer) 😊

[@greenninjalloyd4376]

9:21 Percy Takes the Plunge was my first exposure to Ringo Starr and I used to think he was a guest narrator

[@J4Blue]

You know I'm glad somebody has brought up some of this weird stuff. Percy Takes the Plunge on the Best of Percy dvd was my first exposure to Ringo Starr as kid and I was so confused XD. My Thomas Gets bumped Dvd was the echoed version (like literally for years i thought Duck's theme in season 3 just always sounded echoed), and I've actually showing my friend the Thomas this year and I'm learning just how jacked up a good chunk of the episodes are on Amazon. The funniest one being George Carlin's narration randomly fading into Ringo's in the middle of Thomas gets Tricked then fading back lol.

[@EngineShedStudios]

To all my east coast friends who felt that little earthquake, I think we’re all glad to have this video to enjoy this Friday 😂

[@JackIGuessIDK]

I live in New Jersey and I left on vacation this week. What the hell is going on there this week 😂

[@nwrfilms2008]

I miss my father

[@ThomasandJames]

Lol XD 🥛

[@steakandcake]

so do I

[@kaitlyn-rosediaz4832]

Same

[@MrNnacheta]

Same 😢

[@NORTH_WESTERN]

Coll

[@SodorTrain1225]

I don't know about you, but I think Junior Campbell singing solo in "Gone Fishing" is very soothing.

[@robrice7246]

Not to mention, I liked his version of "Do what you really want to do" more than the choir.

[@GTP2763]

Did anyone else already know about the “look out for the train” because of GWR studios?

[@tharunbala6542]

yeah exactly! i definitely was

[@austinexists]

god i miss GWR studios sm, wish he continued the showcase series

[@ttteproductions7609]

Ya

[@jayo1212]

I actually had the tape with it!

[@kingcurtis8331]

I swear they slightly change small details just to screw with us

[@optiquemusic6204]

"Percy Takes A Plunge"???

[@RedEngineProductions22]

This is a really cool video, I’m sure some may find it boring, but I love it when people talk about Thomas home media oddities, that rabbit hole is endless! If there is one thing I wish you had mentioned, it’s the fact that the 2009 Lionsgate version of Hooray for Thomas has an updated disc while every other Lionsgate reprint used the og disc design, I still have no idea why the hell it was like that

[@Gondarth]

Being a boring old UK guy, most of my VHS tapes were relatively normal, but the one that comes to mind is "My Little Mini-Vid", a tape that has the first 4 episodes for Season 1. A great tape if you're just looking to kill 20 minutes. Everything is normal except for one brief moment at the end of Thomas and Gordon. When Gordon says "Now you know what hard work means", the word "Now" is muted and because of how it's done, it sounds like Gordon has hiccups. The funny thing is, because I was a kid and this was the only release I had for many years that had Thomas and Gordon, this was just how I thought the actual episode was, so when I heard the full thing, I was just so confused... A few years ago, someone uploaded Mini-Vid to KZbin, so I was double check the tape. It wasn't just me having a damaged tape, it's every copy of it like every Strand Home Video release of Thomas Gets Tricked having that "Look Out For The Train" bit.

[@optiquemusic6204]

One thing only barely covered here, but moreso on UsualBlokeLuke's retrospective: The first two S3 tapes and first S4 tape have early takes of Michael Angelis' narration, with a few extra lines present that were cut from later releases. In the case of 'Rock & Roll,' there is also rearranged and missing music, as is mentioned here.

[@ethan_playzroblox4265]

Something you forgot to mention about the US dub of Thomas & Gordon is: After Thomas says “Hurry yourself!” In the UK dub, Ringo says “Gordon began making his plan.” However, in all US releases, it was changed to “Gordon the Proud Engine began making his plan to teach Thomas a lesson for teasing him.” Just like with the “And off Thomas ran, laughing” line, for some reason, unnecessary context was added to the US re-release.

[@QJ89]

Best as I can gather, the new lines and titles, written for Shining Time and the US dub, were designed to be more direct, moralistic and PC: easier for American children to stomach. 'Come Out, Henry' is perhaps the most famous example. As to if this was a good idea, that's a matter of opinion.

[@BobJohnson-jv7qg]

I love that at 32:29 that right after Thomas says duke wont save him Toby looks so terrified out of context.

[@EddieMillerStudios]

The original 1992 _Trust Thomas_ VHS is my favorite Thomas release of all time! It has such a unique vibe! From the choice of all Season 3(A) episodes, to the unique choice of font, to the music and visuals of the episodes.

[@eggballo4490]

When WW3 starts and the bombs drop, there will be no streaming but I'm prepared because I kept all my Thomas and Pixar DVDs.

[@KaloTerni]

Did you ever considered buying physical music CDs or recording any random songs that are catchty to listen, in your Nintendo 3ds

[@eggballo4490]

@@KaloTerni My dad has plenty of CDs.

[@Terrier32678Knowle]

​@@KaloTerniI have started collecting cds

[@NewController01]

6:26 huh...I never heard that line when James crosses the Viaduct whenever I watched that episode, I only seem to know it from the Carlin dub as he's leaving the station.

[@Ryder-a-Blaze]

I will never understand how the “look out for the train” goof managed to sneak into the episode unnoticed

[@whatare9731]

28:36 I didn't even know they added that thud in, you can barely hear it normally.

[@voltsiano116]

27:20 ngl, this actually sounds kinda nice to me, almost whimsical. Not that whimsical fits the mood

[@NateWild]

I clicked on this avidly hoping for a "look out for the train" discussion. And was not disappointed. Thank you for saving the best for last

[@williamshaw8112]

The fuck-up of calling it “Toby the Train Engine” sounds like something Vargskelethor Joel would do since in his Wheelchair Mario 64 stream he called it “Thomas the Train Engine” Those fucked echo versions just used a delay pedal lmao Another instance of those weird ass line changes for no reason I know of is the US dub of Old Iron where one version has Carlin go “he was still feeling REALLY bad tempered” and another goes “he was still feeling VERY bad tempered”. One version is on 10 Years for Thomas and the other on Thomas & His Friends Get Along but I forget which version has which off the top of my head Knowing the original title of Buffer Bother was “Bill & Ben’s Excellent Adventure” makes me want to hear them say “69, duuude” like how they say “Timothy” in CGI

[@candycrushhater5828]

I used to watch the US dubs of seasons 2 and 3 on KZbin a lot during the 2010’s, and I did wonder why the background noice and music was pretty echo-ey in some of them. I guess this video answers that question, because many VHS tapes were released with echoes, and they eventually became the source of fan uploads!

[@KMACY76]

The "Look Out for the Train" goof in the 92 VHS release of "Thomas Gets Tricked" had to have been an editing mistake that a Strand Home Video employee (in this case, an editor) made by accident.

[@chazzywaz]

8:17 the long pauses are almost comedic

[@thegermanofsodor]

There is also a bit more to Rock 'n' Roll and Other Stories outside of the missing music. Michael Angelis' narration isn't cleaned up to remove any of his breathing or lip smacks between the lines and there are a few bits of narration that would be re-recorded for the finalized versions of the episodes. Surprised you didn't mention the UK tapes Time for Trouble and Other Stories and Trust Thomas and Other Stories as their first editions featured Angelis' infamous early narrations of S3a Also the UK did actually get all of Season 7 with Robert's music, however those were mostly exclusive to half hour airing on Nick Jr, similar to the US with PBS, which means that when Bumper Party Collection was being made they for some reason pulled those masters out instead of the ones with Mike and Junior's music

[@guillermofiliano1424]

“Look out for the train” is my favorite goof from Thomas, it just comes out of nowhere.

[@oriongonzalez6053]

5:04 🎵 You can’t catch me 🎵 😂

[@hannahbruno6236]

One of my favorite parts of Thomas is the home media. It’s so wonderful and there is so much history behind every single release. I am flabbergasted by your collection, Tug! Great video!

[@hudsontrainguy1217]

56:45 I would very likely give a thank you to GWR Studios and his Thomas Goof series

[@tharunbala6542]

fax

[@TomLegend101]

Another deep cut of a fact you might’ve missed: There were a number of Children’s Favourites DVDs released by HIT Entertainment in the UK during the 2000s, with an episode of Thomas & Friends being present on a large amount of such DVDs. The Thomas episode included in the Groovy Collection DVD, that being “Fergus Breaks the Rules”, strangely used the US dub. This makes it the first and only time a the US dub was ever featured on any form of official UK home media. Believe me, I was both confused and amazed by this discovery when I was younger. 😱

[@thenumber1engine955]

I have a good one: In the Brazilian version of Edward Gordon and Henry, the episode was originally narrated by "Tatá Guarnieri" (the official Brazilian narrator of the classic series). But, when the episode was released on the DVD "Aprendendo com o Thomas", we don't really know how or why... but St2 kids (the Brazilian distributor of the DVDs) lost the original dub. So they ended up having to redub the episode with another narrator, and the chosen narrator was "Dario de castro", none other than the official Brazilian narrator of HIT ERA! who had already dubbed some of the classic series episodes before for DVD, but that's because in fact they had no dub, but "Edward Gordon and Henry" was different, because the ep had already been dubbed, but somehow they ended up losing the original dub. And nowadays the Tatá Guarnieri's dub is lost media

[@NewController01]

35:00 think it also adds a bit to the scene, that in the original 94 release and US version, they made the crash sound effect a little louder than the final

[@Bobsburgers123]

I now wonder why Amazon hasn’t been alerted about the issues in some of the episodes and tried to get them fixed. Either by getting a updated copy from Mattel (or whoever owns the classic seasons) or just doing a quick editing fix.

[@NewController01]

24:44 maybe out of sync, but at least it did give people that raw audio ending piece for future projects

[@ThomasAndRandomRobloxGames]

I like how the Mud Glorious Mud bit was literally just "yeah its a bit of a weird DVD don't ya think?"

[@jmredguppy2799]

Bruh I grew up so much with the great out of sync audio of “Trouble for Thomas” and “Thomas and Percy’s Mountain Adventure “ that now whenever I hear the versions with the fixed audio sync, it feels damn creepy XD. Great Video and such a nostalgic trip for me since I used to owned a number of a Thomas VHS’S.

[@tugs_man]

Seeing 1st Class Stories gave me Vietnam Flashbacks to when I watched it with my mates on the Very Best of the Worst of Thomas series

[@C3T1C]

56:45, ask GWR studios about this and he can give you everything he knows about this 1 goof.

[@kevinkeenan-2.1]

Was that just for humor?

[@Merit2397]

Amazing! I own a copy of "Thomas Gets Tricked" and yet I never noticed how many changes were made. Admittingly, my copy is the 1995 Ringo Star release but aside from that "then off Thomas Ran, laughing!" bit, it doesn't include "Look out for the train", although now I kind of wish it did. When it comes to this volume, I guess you could say that Thomas really DID get tricked!

[@DustinReckling]

I am SO glad you mentioned Trucks! / Rusty Helps Peter Sam. The UK dub as far as I can tell is the only version now with the cues in tact. The US dub doesn't have everything and it's such an interesting atmosphere.

[@corporalcreative9892]

56:43 The GOOF of all time!

[@tharunbala6542]

Thanks for the great vid man! And shout out to GWR Studios, the 'look out for the train' mention brought back nostalgia for those goof videos

[@sodorpro]

Nice in-depth video. a few things you missed: 1. I can also say on the DVD release of 'Best of Thomas' the audio for 'Thomas and the Trucks' is out of sync. Even as a kid I knew something was off about it, the fact you hear Thomas whistle, before it cuts to the shot of Thomas blowing his whistle. 2. That version of 'Edward, Trevor, and the Really Useful Party' with the dubbing track carried over to the DVD release of 'Thomas Gets Bumped'. 3. the episode releases on 'Hurray for Thomas' weird is that with those weird CGI closeups of the engines they used to transition between episodes, it always ends with a cloud of steam. Well if you look carefully on the episodes on 'Hurray for Thomas' you can see a tiny bit of the ending of that steam transition at the beginning of every episode on the release. 4.Another dead giveaway that 'Mavis' on the 'Trust Thomas' DVD is from '10 Years of Thomas' is that at the beginning of the episode you can hear the whistle SFX used from the transitions from the interviews too the episodes on '10 Years of Thomas'. Again nice video, I will say it's so weird seeing listing to versions of episodes who's music is missing from the DVD's I grew up with, and ya 'Thomas get's Tricked' seems like it couldn't catch a brake back in the 1900's.

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

13:37 Though Mud Glorious Mud was included later. I want to point out that Not So Hasty Puddings/Not So Hasty Cakes was called Thomas and the Avalanche on this DVD. No idea why though

[@inaciosthirdstudio]

To be fair, the way the dubs in the cartoons are handled on VHS and DVD can sometimes remind me well of the Bugs Bunny Tv specials that include stock footage from his older cartoons but then switch to new footage. Example: Bugs Bunny’s Thanksgiving Diet. It would switch from 1951 Mel Blanc in the cartoon “Rabbit Every Monday” to 1979 Mel Blanc re-recording the Bugs and Yosemite Sam voices.

[@kcsalyer19]

Awesome work on this video, Tug! A user named GWR studios was the one who first pointed out the "Look out for the train" goof.

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

If only Digital and Physical can Co-Exist. Digital is easier to take around, but there’s a chance that it could be pulled and you can’t access the media you want to watch again. Physical media can be harder to take around, but you don’t have to worry about it being removed if you own it. Sure physical media can stop being produced, but you can still watch the episodes after its discontinuation.

[@joshuaW5621]

This is why I feel physical media should make a comeback someday. If only they would put effort into the menus again (not that it would make physical media more popular again, but I’m sure it might help a bit).

[@riparadis]

56:51 Thank YOU!!!

[@Driftking0311]

The lookout for the train was first discovered by GWR studios. Man god bless that guy, I hope that dude doing alright. I’d also have those kinds of DVDs bc why not, I’d also noticed the changes in my “Percy’s ghostly trick.” Like Thomas’s Anthem was played first and I was like? Huh did I choose the sing along catalog by accident? Like it was so weird that they did that. I still collect these dvds til this day. I always find them on my local goodwill bc they’d have some of the VHS tapes which I don’t have one but I collect them nonetheless. It’s very weird of how most of didn’t know these mistakes as kids. 😅

[@jackychan92]

Thank you for making this video. I had a bunch of vhs tapes, growing up in the 90's. In later years, seeing remastered and different compilation videos, and hearing slightly different narrations, or lack of music cues, and not remembering them, I thought I was losing my mind. Glad to see I wasn't going crazy.

[@amitysluzara2022]

Look Out For the Train will never fail to amaze me it feels so fake yet its actually real

[@connerhills5665]

8:54. Best of Percy was actually the first time I heard Ringo's narration because being born in 1997, I grew up with Alec Baldwin and George Carlin's narrations.

[@intensesqualor2268]

3:43 I’m assuming that these changes were made to add a sense of “learning a lesson” to the episode. Perhaps the original line implied an unhappy ending to an American audience, with Thomas “losing” to Gordon. Changes like the occurred throughout Shining Time Station, such as “Come Out, Henry!” setting up that Henry will eventuality get out of the tunnel instead of being left for always in the original.

[@jmjrulz9482]

When I was younger, I always viewed Henry's name board as portraying him having a small flame coming out of his funnel.

[@Spookyybuy]

Same here

[@MTI_beyblade]

so glad to see a video on this. I've always wondered what the situations were with some of these tapes. nice to have answers. great videos, cheers Tug!

[@bobingabout]

46:27 ah yes, the original name board endings. I miss these, they're from the original 1984 and 1986 VHS releases of Thomas in the UK. When I did get the UK DVD, I was so disappointed that they did't include these.

[@JamesIsHere5]

Tug this is your best video yet. No joke.

[@ethanthefishman]

Absolutely loved this video, Tug! So nostalgic for me; I still have my whole VHS collection, and treasure it dearly. I would watch at least 12 more of these!

[@metalz1154]

On the season 2 episode double trouble I always noticed there is a difference in the way Ringo goes "help help get me out" with his UK and US narration

[@retroflashbackdude]

I think it has to do with the UK dub having the line “Help I’m choking”

[@eddiethefriendlytenderengine]

One you forgot is the fact that The Early Years, the only complete season DVD in the US, uses the UK dub for the episodes.

[@SecurityBreachShowFan98]

You know GWR Studios had questioned about look out for the train.

[@CreativeTankEngine]

29:49 As an American, I’ve always heard this part without the music as a kid. So, when I later discovered that there was supposed to be music here, I was mind blown and for some reason, I’m actually really in love with this little ditty. It’s just so feisty and cute. Anyway, awesome job, Tug! This was such an interesting video as I’ve never heard of some of these changes. I really enjoyed watching this!

[@candycrushhater5828]

Why couldn’t they have just have Mud Glorious Mud replace Kelly- I MEAN- Percy’s Scary Tale in one of the Pack dvds, and then have Scary Tale be squeezed into that Halloween compilation dvd?