The Best Unique Unit in AOE2:DE | Dec 2022

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TheViper

TheViper

Күн бұрын

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@alexandredeschiever8304
@alexandredeschiever8304 Жыл бұрын
Did not think editing a tier list video could add value. I was wrong appreciate the effort, overlay and clips made it really nice to watch. Really good job
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😇
@Decodeish1
@Decodeish1 Жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same, the editing is top-notch and clean. By the way the editor is not mentioned in the description, they deserve to be mentioned IMHO. :)
@weasol
@weasol Жыл бұрын
Makes it significantly more watchable.
@gabriel84511
@gabriel84511 Жыл бұрын
The new civs have so much new mechanics going for them, that sometimes you feel like the old ones are getting forgotten.
@NoraNoita
@NoraNoita Жыл бұрын
We had The Forgotten expansion already
@theclipclipper
@theclipclipper Жыл бұрын
The Cataphract still has some of the most complex mechanics going on under the hood in the game.
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy Жыл бұрын
This sounds that because we get use to the old ones but still Cataphract with armor and anti-infantry bonus, Throwing Axeman and Mameluke with range mele attack, Samurai with anti-UU attack, Mangudai with anti-sige attack. There was a lot of unique aspect of UU even in age of kings and dynasties of India give us only Shrivamsha Rider with dodge as sth new
@LokaJohn
@LokaJohn Жыл бұрын
@@Just_a-guy what is UU
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy Жыл бұрын
@@LokaJohn unique unit
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 Жыл бұрын
I love that you/your editor used the Konnik clip where you purposely deleted all your horses to fight the halbs on foot 😂 I remember laughing so hard at that vid when it came out a while back
@Freakattaker
@Freakattaker Жыл бұрын
Which video is this? I'd love to watch it as I've been away from Bipah's content for a while now
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 Жыл бұрын
@@Freakattaker kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5mncoushKqMm7M 'The Ultimate Konnik Mastapiece!"
@phazen9035
@phazen9035 6 ай бұрын
for anyone not wanting to scroll through a 45 minute video, it's at 37:40 in the link posted. yw
@SwirlyTurtle
@SwirlyTurtle Жыл бұрын
I just played and won my very first AOE2 RM game (unranked) after watching countless hours of your videos. It was so stressful but so much fun. Thank you for the great and inspiring content! much love
@iuppiterr
@iuppiterr Жыл бұрын
And after that u went back to league?
@SwirlyTurtle
@SwirlyTurtle Жыл бұрын
@@iuppiterr havent played league much recently but League will always be bae 😂❤️
@iuppiterr
@iuppiterr Жыл бұрын
@@SwirlyTurtle sweet
@ashleyabraham212
@ashleyabraham212 Жыл бұрын
@@SwirlyTurtle whats league? League of legends?
@SwirlyTurtle
@SwirlyTurtle Жыл бұрын
@@ashleyabraham212 Yess
@karnazacss
@karnazacss Жыл бұрын
Vipy I think that I talk for everyone when I say that you can extend as much as you want. Is great content even to listen podcast style. A think to add would be timestamps to each unit.
@emilianozavaleta6930
@emilianozavaleta6930 Жыл бұрын
Not me thanks
@Hennu_TRM
@Hennu_TRM Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Mamelukes and Cataphracts are getting a high ranking here. Really cool units, with some much needed buffs recently. Personally I always thought it was silly that Mamelukes used to take so much bonus damage to skirms.
@mikewbma
@mikewbma Жыл бұрын
Xolotl Warrior will be S tier for some emotional damage
@thefatherfarmer5282
@thefatherfarmer5282 Жыл бұрын
Definitely situational then 11
@iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg
@iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg Жыл бұрын
For the ten seconds until the other side realizes, he's been spamming halberds versus a meso civ and suddenly they aren't just going into the meat grinder. Imperial verison should have at least been equivalent to an elite boyar with upgrades, not a cavalier without upgrades.
@omarramirezcarballido4407
@omarramirezcarballido4407 Жыл бұрын
"exolotel warrior", 11 sounds funny, grettings from Mexico.
@darkmantlestudios
@darkmantlestudios Жыл бұрын
@@iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg I hope they spam halb against my Inca.
@EliasHasle
@EliasHasle Жыл бұрын
When Xolotl warrior is included, shouldn't Winged hussar be too? 🤔
@Hunwutzzzz
@Hunwutzzzz Жыл бұрын
Before the Teuonic knight: hoping that theViper will see the potential this time After: Just sad, but that was expected
@LocalBoyy
@LocalBoyy Жыл бұрын
I’ve wiped so many of those units with my Holy Knights blazing there way through any heretic in there path lol
@duongnhdn
@duongnhdn Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Spanish Cannon galleon deserves to be on this because they are completely different from other civ's. And they are SSS tier easily.
@Zeoinx69
@Zeoinx69 Жыл бұрын
Yea, I really like the video SoTL did on the cannon galleon compare, when he photoshopped balloons over all the other cannon balls and then you got spanish just poping real cannon balls xD
@donpendejo9468
@donpendejo9468 Жыл бұрын
Just some fire galleys protecting them and you are the owner of the sea
@fathinalbatamiy9290
@fathinalbatamiy9290 Жыл бұрын
@@Zeoinx69 what the title of the video?
@Zeoinx69
@Zeoinx69 Жыл бұрын
@@fathinalbatamiy9290 I think it might have been his spanish overview for the civ overview.
@MaartenvanHeek
@MaartenvanHeek Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Mameluke and Mangudai high up there. I played the game mostly as a kid vs easy AI (wasn't very good at it), and these were my favourite unique units.
@212mochaman
@212mochaman Жыл бұрын
Once upon a time they were the only s tier unit (mangudai). Got nerfed to where they are now
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm Жыл бұрын
I think they should make the hussite wagon more resistant to melee units, they were used to create "instant fortifications", so you should be able to use them like mobile palisades.
@raynightshade8317
@raynightshade8317 Жыл бұрын
Still would be really hard to position them right
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm Жыл бұрын
@@raynightshade8317, but would be better.
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm Жыл бұрын
@@raynightshade8317, I think it would be interesting if they had stationary and moving modes, like the trebuchet, but becoming like a palisade.
@RoberioRoberioRoberio
@RoberioRoberioRoberio Жыл бұрын
maybe reworking them as a siege tower, that when archers or hand canons get inside of it they can actually fire from it and still maintain the resistance of the hussite wagon
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm Жыл бұрын
@@RoberioRoberioRoberio, I had a similar idea, but I think they were more about creating a barrier than things that could move and shoot at the same time. I think that if archers could garrison in, they should only be able to shoot at the static form.
@btarczy5067
@btarczy5067 Жыл бұрын
Viper… S-Tier once you get him up and running. Incredibly hard to counter in all stages of the game.
@WWFanatic0
@WWFanatic0 Жыл бұрын
Slingers feel like a unit that was originally campaign only in design. It adds some variety to the American civ campaigns as those civs lack cav and naturally have lots of infantry.
@TBPetitP
@TBPetitP Жыл бұрын
I would have rated them higher. I don't know if Viper knows that they have the same bonus damage against infantry that hand cannons have (+10), while being available an age earlier and without chemestry, so I think it is a very good and useful unit.
@Narkas
@Narkas Жыл бұрын
@@TBPetitP I'm sure he has an idea lmao, they are good against infantry (arguably better than HC because of what you mentioned) BUT unlike HC's they cant kill anything else, they are practically useless unless they're fighting against infantry
@sisigs4820
@sisigs4820 Жыл бұрын
Genoese Crossbowmen also have a secret bonus dmg vs. ships if I remember correctly.
@AndrewTheFrank
@AndrewTheFrank Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that S tier should be for units that are so good you'd want to or prefer to have made them. With that being said I think Cataphract is A tier and not S. They are very powerful but I think part of the reason why they are not seen often is they are an anti Infantry unit and infantry still isn't fairly popular or strong. That can be seen in this tier list with S and A being occupied by faster units and B and C being slower and infantry.
@moormanjean5636
@moormanjean5636 Жыл бұрын
Catas kill everything but paladin and arbalest, but can trade decently vs both and melts everything in between
@cadethecruel3484
@cadethecruel3484 Жыл бұрын
@@moormanjean5636 I think Arbalest are weaker vs Cata in most instances when I use them because Byz have fully upgraded skirm at a reduced cost too
@BlueShellshock
@BlueShellshock Жыл бұрын
So many units just have one tiny, little thing that prevents them from being decent units. Like, I'd love Throwing Axemen and Gbeto's so much more if they just didn't miss. Others like Teutonic Knights... yeah, they're slow -- so slow -- but I'm a firm believer that any unit can be good without 'solving' their weakness if you just juice up their stats, so just give them 200 health!
@francor1335
@francor1335 3 ай бұрын
but war elephants have 200 hp and are still in c tier. i've always been a fan of teutonick knights, but i think it is true that they are extremely ineffective.
@Thomas-fn6sy
@Thomas-fn6sy Жыл бұрын
Camel Scouts is great for being able to make camels before coming to castle age. This can lead to being 3-4 camels in front of your component
@rovsea-3761
@rovsea-3761 Жыл бұрын
My issue with Mamelukes in S tier is that they have very limited range. Even things that they *should* be countering, like Cavalry Archers, do ok vs them simply because in Imperial Age especially they just have so much more range. A 3 range Elite Mameluke is going to struggle to ever hit a 7 Range HCA, especially if both sides are using meatshields.
@li4b294
@li4b294 Жыл бұрын
Bro I don't think CA are actually good against Mamelukes, ok you can hit and run, but Mames literally melt CA, either in low or high numbers you would have to micro very good the CA to win the fight. My biggest problem with Mamelukes (I love them), is how extremely expensive they are, it makes you suffer yo see a single Mameluke die.
@kazogai
@kazogai Жыл бұрын
I think I played enough CBA games to tell any range difference does not change the fact that great units like Mangudai, War Wagons and Boyars will just melt. Cavalry Archer civs use Hussars as meatshield. They will sublimate straight to gas form.
@li4b294
@li4b294 Жыл бұрын
@@kazogai CBA xd
@Leon.Stanic
@Leon.Stanic Жыл бұрын
Memelukes are extremely strong now especially after they removed skirms as a counter.
@jotfohm4644
@jotfohm4644 Жыл бұрын
@li4b294 What is CBA, may I ask ?
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 Жыл бұрын
What makes shiramsha riders dumb is that they’re just an additional powerful unique unit available from the stable immediately. It’d be like if Spanish got Conqs or Burgundians got Coustilliers from their stable immediately AND had another useful UU available from the castle. Cataphracts, Berserkers, Jaguars, Throwing Axemen and arguably Konniks and Longbows need significant unique tech upgrades to be fully optimized and scary. Genitours aren’t that insanely powerful right out of the gate. Shiramshas are just automatically good right out of the gate.
@dirkauditore8413
@dirkauditore8413 Жыл бұрын
I wish more unique units were available from barracks/stable/archery range.
@Hitzer89
@Hitzer89 Жыл бұрын
I think they should take away the ability to dodge gunpowder, and maybe cause the mango's to remove 1.5x the dodge it current does. I love to use them, but really they are just OP.
@dirkauditore8413
@dirkauditore8413 Жыл бұрын
@@Hitzer89 Nah theyre fine let them dodge gunpowder, conquistadors are op enough as it is in Castle Age.
@timosiimullins9853
@timosiimullins9853 Жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree with the Urumi swordsmen. While they are great in melee situations, they are extremely squishy, having low hp and pierce armor. That makes them extra vulnerable to any ranged units. Skirms are a decent counter to them. Glad that you talked about how crazy good mamelukes are now. Although a little annoying to micro, the unit just melts its counters.
@jemand8462
@jemand8462 Жыл бұрын
"Genitours... they are extremely situational... I'll put them in C-Tier" He could have just deleted the situational tier.
@mertyilm_z
@mertyilm_z Жыл бұрын
How are these edits are so good! I would watch any tierlist video from viper but the visuals add so much!
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, even showed the classic konnik clip where viper deleted all the horses to fight the halbs on foot (it almost threw the game lmao, still worth it)
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! 😊
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 Жыл бұрын
@@Tiramis_ Absolutely! Edits are looking fantastic!
@Andreecals
@Andreecals Жыл бұрын
What about the hussar variations? I mean, they are more relevant than xolotl warriors or flaming camels, and they are technically unique too
@88porpoise
@88porpoise Жыл бұрын
I think the correct answer is the Xolotl Warrior shouldn't be included here as it isn't unique. It and the Winged Hussar are regional units, like Eagles or Steppe Lancers. Unique units are available to one civ (or one civ makes them available to teammates). The Xolotl Warrior is available to two civs (actually, is it possible for Mayans to convert an enemy monk from a player that has redemption and then use said monk to convert a stables? I know converted units keep their upgrades, but does that include monk abilities?) So it is not a unique unit.
@Andreecals
@Andreecals Жыл бұрын
@@88porpoise no, it's not possible for mayans to have xolotl warriors, age 2 doesn't work like starcraft xD But there are actually 3 unique hussars with different names, each for just one civ and unique traits.
@jww84
@jww84 Жыл бұрын
@@88porpoise Maps like MegaRandom can start you with a Stable in Dark Age. This makes it available for Mayans.
@88porpoise
@88porpoise Жыл бұрын
@@Andreecals I don't know what that StarCraft reference is, I didn't even suggest that converting a villager gives you full opponents tech tree. If units are converted they keep their upgraded stats, if you converted a monk from a civ that had researched sanctity, it would still have +15 HP. I said I didn't know if that extends to the abilities from Techs like redemption. As to Winged Hussar, as far as I can see it is one upgrade available to two civs. Now, they have different stats/abilities due to civ bonuses and unique techs, but that applies to many units.
@Andreecals
@Andreecals Жыл бұрын
@@88porpoise I'll have to agree. the comparison with sc didn't really make sense. but I also don't know about your monk question, the last time I saw tests relative to weird monk stuff was either on spirit of the law's or zeroempires' channel, but some good years ago. at the time, they certainly didn't mention this being possible, but maybe it's changed now. regarding the hussars, it was also my mistake. I just remembered the video from spirit of the law that compared the units, but it's older than I imagined and I kinda invented another hussar in my memory of the video hahaha anyways, the winged hussar is still unique enough to warrant it's analysis, at least much more than the xolotl warrior xD
@IndSoc
@IndSoc Жыл бұрын
Placement of urumi really surprised me. I thought they were really underwhelming but I'll give them another chance
@TheViperAOE
@TheViperAOE Жыл бұрын
They're mostly amazing in mass however.
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 Жыл бұрын
@@TheViperAOE the Urumi is the second fastest land unit for the Dravidians, just behind the shit Light Cavalry.
@hartmann4710
@hartmann4710 Жыл бұрын
@@sauravtripathi4128 hey, no need to associate shit with Dravi L Cavs At least poop you can throw at people to disgust and repel them
@zhaoyun255
@zhaoyun255 Жыл бұрын
The Splash charge attack damage was what made it so cost effective en masse. They will win ANY trash battle and even against any cavalries except Battle Elephant with staggered formation, or Koniks, or range unit.
@NemesisTheOne-x3z
@NemesisTheOne-x3z Жыл бұрын
I think the Karambit Worrier is an extremely underrated unit. Its also shockingly satisfying to tickle your enemies to death.
@AzureKaioshin
@AzureKaioshin Жыл бұрын
14:42 this looks like one of those galaxy brained gotcha moments, but it's soo silly. Why would you delete your koniks! Just let the halbs hit them! You just saved that guy the trouble of killing your calvary! 😂
@Leon.Stanic
@Leon.Stanic Жыл бұрын
*Clearly* he was just memeing.
@ManuelJGR14
@ManuelJGR14 Жыл бұрын
TheViper analysis are the only ones worth out time bois
@inkarnator7717
@inkarnator7717 Жыл бұрын
Just to be pedantic, Xolotl isn't a unique unit, it's a regional unit like the Elephant Archer or Eagle Warrior.
@HaveYouSeenJeff
@HaveYouSeenJeff Жыл бұрын
I think you're sleeping on caravels. They're statistically identical to war galleys in range, health, damage, build time and armor, they don't need to be upgraded upon hitting castle age to make AND they have splash/pass-through damage at the cost of a bit more gold that still makes them cheaper than war galleys on other civs. I don't know why you wouldn't make them.
@TheCsquared08
@TheCsquared08 Жыл бұрын
RIP Winged Hussar, man
@LetsbeHonestOfficial
@LetsbeHonestOfficial Жыл бұрын
If I had to pick one unit when looking at pro players playstyles, I'd pick Mangudai before their insta shot nerf. Their potential for micro could SO often make zero loss hits vs any army composition in the game. Onagers? Instantly f'ed. Any infantry? Too slow. Cav? Even they are too slow except the light cav range. Cav archers? Just statistically outclassed. Only thing you could really do is hide behind castles. Like closing the window before a swarm of bees are coming for you.
@mikel839
@mikel839 Жыл бұрын
Having played a lot of clown maps in TGs, biggest thing teams forget about is Siege Onager. A lot of "OP" units just die to SO. SO is one of the absolute highest S-tier units in the game. Same with BBC. Think about it, after the upgrades an SO has the same gold cost as 3 arbalesters.
@Spink_Prime
@Spink_Prime Жыл бұрын
I think this list could use some reformatting. If there are so many good unique units, then perhaps an S+ category is in order? Also, you end at C tier, so there are no bad unique units? In the American grading system, D stands for Deficient, or under average. Would you not put Hussite Wagons in that category? Hell, you even called Missionaries outright bad. What also stood out to me is the murky ranking you have. You don't really compare stats or the units themselves, but how they fit into civs. Huskarls are a big one. What would happen if I converted a Huskarl? Would I still be getting an A-tier unit, or are they only A-tier because of the civ they're with and how that civ performs. How about converting Huskarls (meaning you're fighting a Goth), and you use it against the Goths? Do they move up, down, or nowhere in the ranking because of that?
@omeryugenkorat8783
@omeryugenkorat8783 Жыл бұрын
Great rating, I dig almost everything you said. One question tho, why do you say that rathas get countered by skirms but not the same about mangudai or plumes? Aren't rathas actually more durable due to higher hp?
@teomdoaham
@teomdoaham Жыл бұрын
They are alower?
@davidmolina-lx6zf
@davidmolina-lx6zf Жыл бұрын
probably because bengalis does not have a strong unit vs skirmishers, mayans have the best eagles and Mongols %30 hussars, bengalis instead have no hussars, no Knight-line, and no siege bonus.
@ivanstrydom8417
@ivanstrydom8417 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see them ''buff'' longboats by just having them be able to attack as well as transport units (Infantry/vils/monks/kings only) (loses transport ships (until castle age) but they have non attacking Longboats in feudal age.) I’d enjoy raiding coastlines and rivers using longboats to transport infantry and Angon skirms to the shores of my enemies.
@zitrageonebrotpires8449
@zitrageonebrotpires8449 Жыл бұрын
I‘m around 1000 elo and it‘s real fun to see that the best units on my level are SO low for a pro gamer^^ Kamayuk, serjeant, war elefant, shotel, samurai, slinger ^^ those are extremely useful on my level
@陳柏安-q5k
@陳柏安-q5k Жыл бұрын
hi this is Paul, 1.plumed archer produce really fast and so cost effective to trade against other units, in another words , this unit is cheaper and can play like CA (rattan archer counter all archer unit but its a defensive unit, not like plumed arcehr you can move fast and attack in different area ) 2.mameluka just kill paladin so fast , incredible fast, i think only halberd can kill cavalary units that fast like Mameluka 3. there is a bug that if you place Shirvashe Raider next to the mangonel, this mangonel will reduce its coming damage, which means this mangonel its like immortal if there will be another village repair it. 4. xobotl warrior is a campaign unit ^_^ in conclusion, all the A units, if you used them well! they are actually very good in castle age, sometimes will result better than S units, because some of those S tier units, you need numbers to make it unstoppable, for example, ballista elephant, or mangadai, which also takes longer time to farm. cheers, deeply appreciated for the video
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 11 ай бұрын
You can technically train the Xolotl Warrior in regular games. Quite a cute easter egg.
@davidpieper95
@davidpieper95 10 ай бұрын
Can you redo this list? I'd be very curious considering the new civs.
@Boom3120
@Boom3120 Жыл бұрын
adding some clips of the unique unit in action was a pretty good addition
@MoRDekai1364
@MoRDekai1364 Жыл бұрын
konnik is my favorite unit because it often feels like it counters 'counter' units - the perfect meat shield (2 in 1 units justify the cost) and with skirms in the back does the job. Bulgarians are my fav civ but they desperately need an economy buff. From historical viewpoint they didn't have arbalests so why not just replacing this unit with unique one like the winged hussar.
@weswolverine
@weswolverine Жыл бұрын
Same! Konniks are a great unit in my opinion to, I also love the fact that they are on e of the best all types of situations unit, with not really any unit that can 1 on 1 counter thwm (accept elephants maybe). If the Bulgarians economy was a little stronger in midgame I feel they'd have really good potential
@JoycenatorGaming
@JoycenatorGaming Жыл бұрын
As an arena bohemians player, the low Hussite wagon rating hurt my soul. I get it but it still hurts to see 😭
@RolfReibach
@RolfReibach Жыл бұрын
Down 1 tier: - Cataphract (too costly, a bit too situational) - Chakram Thrower (fragile) Up 1 tier: - Obuch (creation speed, crazy cheep for the stats and - armor) - Huskarl (it is the win condition of goths, even if you don't make them. The posibility to use them alone is the sole reason this civ can win games imo)
@n.f.ch.m.ph.67
@n.f.ch.m.ph.67 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, jaguar warriors are kind of a boring UU (once you get past their amazing looks), they should get something special like berserk's regeneration (and speed) and samurai's faster attack (and hp). Since it's the theme of the aztecs, I think that elite jaguars should be produced faster than samurais, maybe in 9 seconds base time and then apply the aztec bonus in addition (to result in more or less 8 seconds). This is similar to the shotel warrior nowadays, but it would be a lesser version of that, in approximately 8 seconds (when elite, if it's too much to have it from the begining) instead of less than 4 seconds. This way, they would be actually more viable, especially against infantry, since in many cases the enemy can outproduce and beat this unit. Even if this is not a good idea, I'm pretty sure that they need something more than simply bonus damage and +4 attack (+2 if you compare to berserks), like samurais and berserks (and cataphracts with their bonus defense, for example).
@fishcake4473
@fishcake4473 Жыл бұрын
Urumi swordsmen are so loaded since they have both charged attack AND splash damage
@TeemoStricker
@TeemoStricker Жыл бұрын
I like Genitours when I play as Turks ^^ Hard to rank them as a unique-Berbrer-unit, since they are best for some allys, not for the Berbers themselves. Same for Condis ofc. Thanks for the vid.
@loswashos4667
@loswashos4667 Жыл бұрын
Blablabla... ;) but man, this editing is so great. Double what you pay your editor and then double it again.
@maximilianmusterhans4659
@maximilianmusterhans4659 Жыл бұрын
What's so great? Zoom into Viper face for 5 seconds, zoom out again. Wow, mind blown.
@loswashos4667
@loswashos4667 Жыл бұрын
@@maximilianmusterhans4659 Yeah... exactly that... AND always showing some gameplay-scenes according to what he is saying and having to spend presumably HOURS to find and cut those is to be neglected compared to the zooming... Please pardon my excitement
@LetsbeHonestOfficial
@LetsbeHonestOfficial Жыл бұрын
I feel like Teutonic Knights should get one automatic bump just for the looks
@CoffeeAndBusiness
@CoffeeAndBusiness Жыл бұрын
Viper you seem like the most chill dude on the planet.
@markdowse3572
@markdowse3572 Жыл бұрын
Hi TheViper 🐍. Thanks for ANOTHER great video, Sir. Great production quality, video clips of Units being described, even the very chill music. 🎶 NICE. 😊👍 And BTW, please don't worry about feeling you need to keep your vids 'shorter'. Mate, you are the AoE2 GOAT. If you have something to say or an opinion, we'd love to hear it. What you think actually MATTERS. We all want AoE2 to be the best it can be - for all levels of Players - and the best way to do that is keep the conversation going. Cheers. 😁 M 🦘🏏😎
@tobiasfeil1993
@tobiasfeil1993 Жыл бұрын
"Don't wanna drag it on for 30 minutes" Close one!
@mikelivingood7797
@mikelivingood7797 Жыл бұрын
I have been playing Spanish with missionaries because I watched a Viper video titlted "Missionaries are Amazing" or something similar. Now I find out they are shit. I feel so trolled.
@elliejohnson2786
@elliejohnson2786 Жыл бұрын
18:12 Isn't this wrong? I thought starting a conversion increased the tick timer before it would make a conversion, since you can half-convert someone and then switch to another target and convert them in half time. Unless I'm just wrong on that, but I think I saw that in a SotL video.
@greoge1381
@greoge1381 Жыл бұрын
What he means is that you can't "half-convert" a unit as they approach, run away when they get close and then finish the conversion where you left off once you've run away some. I'm pretty sure the point he is making is that because they have only 7 range, it is much more likely for even an infantry unit (or 2) to just walk up and kill the missionary before they can get a conversion off (as opposed to a monk which can start at 9 range, giving it a higher chance of a conversion before the unit gets in melee range). The missionary's higher speed doesn't help because the tick timer resets anytime the missionary stops converting to run away. The SotL video is discussing a weird interaction where a monk converting unit A can be switched to converting unit B and continue where they left off. This only works if unit A and unit B are both in range of the monk when it switches, so it is actively still converting unit A when you click on unit B and doesn't have to move at all before starting converting unit B. Does that make sense?
@elliejohnson2786
@elliejohnson2786 Жыл бұрын
@@greoge1381 Yeah I rember now :x oops
@Khaleed3194
@Khaleed3194 Жыл бұрын
Hi vipey, can you make videos about strongest unit composition for every civs? I am very curious about this
@tuxness
@tuxness Жыл бұрын
Nice addition with the editing. As for the list itself… TheViper has spoken!!
@ariisee
@ariisee Жыл бұрын
What did you do to Gbeto and Huskarl, TheViper? They are S!
@anabland8
@anabland8 Жыл бұрын
I think having 20 units in the s tier degrades the tier and make me question if they are all s tier
@Julian-AJCP
@Julian-AJCP Жыл бұрын
Crying in Xolotl
@wilboehmer5620
@wilboehmer5620 Жыл бұрын
I'd put imp skirm, tectonic knights and war elephants in B. But everything else I agree with
@tartakower5938
@tartakower5938 Жыл бұрын
6:48. After last nerf (bonus attack nerfed from +25, +30 (Elite) to +20, +25 (Elite)), Coustillier isn't S tier anymore in my opinion. They used to 1 shot to Monk and Arbalest when they had +25, +30 (Elite) bonus attack, now they don't. I think it is A tier now, even going Cavalier into Paladin become better option 90% of the time. Camel Archer is also A tier because it have only +1 bonus attack against Halberdier, Generic Halberdier counter Berbers civ in late game.
@capriccz
@capriccz Жыл бұрын
"I don't want it to drag on for 30min" - makes it 28:57 :D
@mradul2474
@mradul2474 Жыл бұрын
placing teutonic knights in c tier is an absolute crime. they are slow but a few of them will deal with any melee unit in the game
@VickyCruz
@VickyCruz 7 ай бұрын
Even urumi warriors can kill them with equal resources and ignoring armour
@mikuhatsune8121
@mikuhatsune8121 3 ай бұрын
In your dream stop crying 1 Year old kid is salty 😁
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 22 күн бұрын
They need to buff the TKs. They’re so badass and have excellent stats
@magnussonborski2664
@magnussonborski2664 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who understands how unstoppable Ballista Elephants are.
@divicospower9112
@divicospower9112 Жыл бұрын
Mangudai kill everything. Imperial skirmishers laughing in the back of the room.
@danpower7416
@danpower7416 Жыл бұрын
25:12 That said they're just cool. I mean, you have guys who throw javelins, chakrams, darts and then you have these guys throwing friggin axes. How badass is that?
@nothanks7475
@nothanks7475 Жыл бұрын
I noticed all the infantry are B and C tier. Maybe they need another buff? Or perhaps, somehow the cost isn't being considered? idk
@DSBMAC13
@DSBMAC13 Жыл бұрын
Teutonic Knights is absolutely S-tier for me... You can mass them easily due to the strong Teuton economy, and when you have about 40 to 50 of them, you just zombiewalk through the opponents base. Slow, but leaving a trail of destruction behind you.
@jonathanhaas6730
@jonathanhaas6730 Жыл бұрын
you lie!! D:
@itzikashemtov6045
@itzikashemtov6045 Жыл бұрын
They can't dodge onager shots... 2-3 of those alone can wipe 20+ units easily and good luck defending ur base all the time from raids with such a slow unit.
@mikuhatsune8121
@mikuhatsune8121 3 ай бұрын
​@@itzikashemtov6045in your dream stop crying 1 Year old kid is salty 😁
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 11 ай бұрын
The Xolotl Warrior deserves some upgrade or quirky way to make it viable, and I think it should rather mirror the Cataphract rather than the common knight.
@icarusthefly5458
@icarusthefly5458 Жыл бұрын
Whats better vs buildings? Lith paladins +5 relics or tarkins?
@JacoDeltaco
@JacoDeltaco Жыл бұрын
it good that you did it quick the only reason I clique on the video is that 30min for that many unit is pretty good
@darkranger116
@darkranger116 Жыл бұрын
I am still confused by peoples perceptions of the Ghulam. I hardly ever find a reason to train them to specifically deal with an archer problem, and i hardly ever have trouble dealing with them when fighting Hindustani.
@undefined6341
@undefined6341 Жыл бұрын
I used to love Longboat rushing on Hill Fort, definitely an S tier unit
@totalanus843
@totalanus843 Жыл бұрын
If Xolotl Warrior is in this surely the Winged Hussar should be aswel.
@vianney768
@vianney768 Жыл бұрын
Really cool video. Was waiting for the Orjan Gun place 1111
@frankishknight707
@frankishknight707 Жыл бұрын
i play a lot with celts , woad raider is A, they produce quickly and they are useful at castle not imperial, they are good for raids, they amass very quicky, very good in nomad map (fast castle)
@mrpotaehead
@mrpotaehead 4 ай бұрын
What is the best all in Unit? Imagine i just one to spam one Unit to not think about a composition because i'm a lazy player.
@nevezetesazonossag
@nevezetesazonossag Жыл бұрын
i feel like TKs are more situational than C
@sisigs4820
@sisigs4820 Жыл бұрын
They are amazing defense units
@birisuandrei1551
@birisuandrei1551 Жыл бұрын
Caravels on small bodies of water are stupidly OP.... Denying a landing so easily
@Jolly123123123
@Jolly123123123 Жыл бұрын
Samurai... B tier... a certain guitar playing age of empires 2 loving individual may soon come for you.
@ayushtiwari2959
@ayushtiwari2959 Жыл бұрын
10:10 what's the music in the background?
@AhmedHassan-dv2wc
@AhmedHassan-dv2wc Жыл бұрын
Thanks legendary Viper...can u do another video for best civilization in several maps like arabia, ...etc i will do appreciate it a lot.
@NemesisTheOne-x3z
@NemesisTheOne-x3z Жыл бұрын
I think the condos shouldn't be B tear- it is a team bonus. So it depends on what civ is playing them. Viking Condos are SO good, extra hp, generate gold while raiding, bonus damage against gunpowder AND cav, super speedy, dont have upgrade costs- just a solid unit. But yeah, like, other civs, I get it, their pretty meh.
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 Жыл бұрын
Question then, would you rather see a Teutonic Knight with: the pierce armor of a Huskarl or the speed of a Woad Raider?
@gildeddrake1479
@gildeddrake1479 Жыл бұрын
teutonic knight with pierce armor of huskarl literally solos the entire game. you don't need to be fast when you're immortal. you could even be a bit vicious and put a monk behind him
@estebanmoretti3323
@estebanmoretti3323 Жыл бұрын
yes vipa!! thanks for this, i love tierlists.
@e89100
@e89100 Жыл бұрын
Boyar feels so powerful in lower elo (specially in TG) I honestly feel bad by seeing him in B tier :(
@niksutliff
@niksutliff Жыл бұрын
For sure, especially because so many dummies go only Paladins as flank..it's so satisfying having some Frank player smash 50 paladins into your elite boyars and you lose like 4
@nathanfranks1476
@nathanfranks1476 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how boyar could be below bezerker. The whole “you need a castle to produce them” applies the same to bezerkers. And while not as expensive, bezerkers lack the raw power and mobility of boyars, which are basically teutonic knights on horseback. I feel a boyar army is much harder to stop.
@t_Heisenberg
@t_Heisenberg Жыл бұрын
Berserks regenerate, are way cheaper and have good damage against cavalry - this makes them harder to counter than most other infantry
@ageofstrange657
@ageofstrange657 Жыл бұрын
"I'm not biased because I'm a viking." I don't believe you 11
@MoneyMike2002
@MoneyMike2002 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I appreciate your insights Viper.
@reubendias18
@reubendias18 Жыл бұрын
I feel the Gbetos should be S-tier UUs... A good enough number of them can easily level any town by taking out strategic defences and military buildings, as well as sniping trebs in a castle duel/drop.
@niksutliff
@niksutliff Жыл бұрын
Problem is they're countered so hard by any archers. You can do OK vs cav because of the high damage, but you also die hard to siege because of low HP. they're very strong in a castle drop for example because you can use the castle to get in base. Definitely an S tier raiding unit. Just fragile (which is good because they're very powerful)
@reubendias18
@reubendias18 Жыл бұрын
@@niksutliff yeah their fragility now makes sense
@teslax006
@teslax006 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Longbowmen look amazing... That's why i still use them.
@DahakaxX
@DahakaxX Жыл бұрын
Mangudai should have their own Tier, above S.
@PawelP7
@PawelP7 Жыл бұрын
Where winged Hussars ?
@RomusSixgriffe
@RomusSixgriffe Жыл бұрын
Would you say S tiers units should be nerfed and B and C tiers buffed ? And should Castle unique unit be situational ?
@riccardocorradini6713
@riccardocorradini6713 Жыл бұрын
Serjeants need to be 50 F/ 30 G at most to be viable
@definitelynotthequestion5359
@definitelynotthequestion5359 9 ай бұрын
Of course the micro god doesnt like Hussite wagon. They are only effective if they stay in place.
@Progeusz
@Progeusz Жыл бұрын
Wow Dave was called out with Kipachakas.
@MrJoossie17
@MrJoossie17 Жыл бұрын
I can summarize this video, while 27 seconds in, in 2 words: it depends
@portman8909
@portman8909 Жыл бұрын
Basically ignore the list if you play against AI.
@Manta518
@Manta518 Жыл бұрын
i hate that leitis and urumi swordsman hard counters teutonic knight :(
@SINS.................
@SINS................. Жыл бұрын
Best unique unit= janissary Best land unit = bombard cannon Best water unit=galley
@husainjam
@husainjam Жыл бұрын
If i heal a melee konnik to full health with monk, will it turn into a cav unit upon more healing
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