Lords of the West Campaign: Edward Longshanks 1. Vain Ambition

[@joshuathompson8132]

Some 20 odd years after being the original villain in the William Wallace campaign. Edward longshanks finally gets his own campaign.

[@tvremote9394]

I was low-key expecting this one too begin with "The Scottish are terrorizing all of England, and it's time for us to fight back!"

[@ducktape-3470]

I Legit read that in my head in the OG voice and i can't stop laughing my ass off

[@wolper7395]

I wonder if the people in twitch chat know I'm saying Hi back to them.

[@brohvakiindova4452]

well of course I know, I'm him

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

Viper: has memorized the stats and civ boosts of every single unit in AOE2. Also Viper: completely forgets that happiness is an emotion and describes himself as positively affected.

[@arthurcowie815]

For anyone wondering, according to the campaign designer, the pronunciation Glor-chester (rather than Gloss-ta) is used because it's more accurate for the time period

[@MrMaxiARG]

Why brits write things that they dont mind to pronounce?

[@archidamos6476]

@@MrMaxiARG laughs in french

[@CrnaStrela]

@@MrMaxiARG they learnt that from french

[@borisjohnson1473]

@@MrMaxiARG Because that's the same with every language.

[@borisjohnson1473]

@@CrnaStrela No they didn't.

[@Eembuster]

On the Vipers tombstone: The Viper must survive

[@thehoerscorral8565]

LMFAO

[@HECKproductions]

remember when everyone made fun of him in the dracula campaign how he prononuced targoviste yeah so gloucester is actually pronounced gloshter

[@jurgenvlaar2754]

This entire episode was just Viper arguing with chat over how to pronounce Glouchester

[@IschmarVI]

glaugh - ses - ter

[@forsmarc]

Vipet: "gotta keep Edward alive" Viper: [Storms enemy with Edward head first in the vanguard]

[@mirandamerienda]

Finished this one today. Time to watch someone not take four hours per stage.

[@iceintheair]

*GIRL*

[@atulgangwar7455]

@@iceintheair are not real

[@SenselessUsername]

Why? You have 5 to 10x more entertainment value for the same DLC. Like with skiing, the better you get the worse it is: As a beginner 10min in the cold on a lift after 5min queuing is rewarded by a good 45min "skiing"; later you bomb that in 5min tops, so every hour you have some 15min skiing for 45min of overhead where initially it was the other way around.

[@LNK5327]

I swear. At this point, I'm pretty convinced that Viper just acts like he has no idea his heroes are capable of dying 😂

[@ignacionadeo1306]

"I'm glad this is fast forwarded in the youtube video" Yeah, about that, Viper...

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

When I did this campaign, I mined lots of stone and built two castles outside of the walls on the eastern side. I wanted longbowmen, lots of longbowmen. And they became a nice rock for the blue armies to crash into.

[@jjforcebreaker]

Awesome. Would love too see longer vid that wraps up AoE III campaigns. They are very easy and simple.

[@njdutoit]

I notice that the Barons are of the "Normans" Civilization, which is not among the new playable civilizations. What abilities and unique unit do they have.

[@mashek331]

They're Sicilians. There's an option in the scenario editor to change the civilisation name to whatever you choose. In this case, the designer changed Sicillians to Normans, but the civilisation is still Sicilians in every respect. It's a very handy option when creating historic scenarios.

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

Besides, the Sicilians are pretty much just Normans.

[@noxious8]

'I am not gonna rush it - I enjoy the campaign' Me thinking of Barbarossa and the other old campaigns he just overwhelmed the AI by rushing

[@andrewberrocal2281]

Did anyone catch the chess piece Easter egg. They are the same ones used in the original AOE2 startup animation.

[@srsa2436]

They were actual medieval pieces . They are called Isle of (...) pieces . Sorry , can’t remember the actual name .

[@markdowse3572]

@ 1:39 "... 'Standard' difficulty? Nope, we go right to HARD !" Ha ha ha. 😂 That made me laugh out loud, Mr Viper! 😄 This is going to be fun. @ 6:02 "... See? THIS is why I don't play CAMPAIGNS !" Ah, mate, it's OK. Some English names we just have to learn - their spelling almost doesn't matter. 😉 Weird? Yes. 😵 BTW, it IS a disgrace that the AoE2 voice actors DO NOT KNOW how to pronounce the names correctly. VERY bad. 😠 So you are 100% correct to be unsure..... 🤔

[@IschmarVI]

no, they knew EXACTLY how to pronounce these names. Here's the thing. The campaign takes place in the middle age and, to make it short, the language shift that eventually caused speakers to drop the "ces" in "cester" hadn't happened back then so it's is historically correct to pronounce it "glouCESter". That is the reasoning the devs gave and it makes perfect sense to me. Of course, one can argue about that, but claiming that the devs "do not know how to pronounce the names correctly" is strictly false.

[@01siripongsiripun19]

_"Hi KZbin, Sogomn is a s*** mod"_

[@mq7447]

Well, viper is going to kill William Wallace now

[@ducktape-3470]

Again*

[@abhishek190893]

Finally a Britons campaign after 20 years. Now I have seen everything.

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

One day we might get a Chinese or a proper Byzantine campaign. Or a full sized Celtic campaign.

[@jazzj2]

well the voice acting is good again

[@yutuvefan4ever]

when was it bad?

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

I am forced to admit that these new Definite Edition campaigns are most excellent. And they revamp the original campaigns. I might not play the HD version anymore except for the Forgotten campaigns.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

Some evidence suggests that Middle Ages English accent sounded more like an upper class southern American accent. Like, imagine Martin Sheen playing Robert E. Lee in the movie Gettysburg, for example.

[@seleukosnikator7347]

In Hautevilles you don't pronounce the s at the end. It's ô-t-vil

[@lmoore1834]

Viper so fast man i actually have no idea what he is doing. But I like it.

[@saintbeau2779]

i'm so excited for him to play Bohemond in the East

[@badassbassist]

It's not fair to the AI....They should design a separate Viper mode difficulty to make these missions challenging

[@tylerfehr7883]

Gameplay starts at 7:47

[@chrispaynter]

Thanks Best comment

[@tylerfehr7883]

@@chrispaynter I knew I couldn't be the only one bothered by the incredibly slow opening. I know english isn't his first language but it takes FOREVER for him to read through the objectives screen.

[@CrnaStrela]

he talked about the cuts but there's no cut so we got to see Viper embarassed himself in youtube LUL

[@TRoker5]

If you guys feel unlucky imagine that i had to listen to the beneFISH-ial pun twice cause i fell asleep the fist time i tried to watch this.

[@aurok2009]

i just gave up and started pronouncing hautevilles as hotwheels

[@ducktape-3470]

This is awkward. I'm holding one in my hand rn.

[@ProfDrOetker]

I hope the place that one guy in chat had ribs was called Edward Lambshanks

[@IschmarVI]

6:40 gets me every time 1111

[@srjklmmm4556666]

The perfidious Anglos are hard at work in the chart I see

[@212mochaman]

I must say even though ive watched braveheart and convinced myself he was that generations hitler I'm still pretty interested in hearing his story

[@lewstherintelamon244]

Ah yes, Braveheart, the most historically accurate movie ever made.

[@HECKproductions]

wierd to play as the one i played against as a kid...

[@ebadathar5066]

YES MORE CAMPAIGN VIDEOS!!!

[@farazsaegh4606]

New Age of empires 2 super good.

[@MSeroga]

Gotta love twitch chat talking crap about the narrating in the intros, like they would make it sound alot better.

[@Lakers24bn]

Most of them were praising the voice actor tho

[@therealdavidleong]

he didn't skip/fast forward lollll

[@ashmonkey2572]

Thank you for disabling the alerts for this one!

[@ProfDrOetker]

@viper It's pronounced "høøteville". It's French for hightowners, people that live at higher elevations.

[@giagaz]

YEEEESSS!! The snake is back at campaigning!

[@swiggity295]

I believe it is pronounced like Glouce + ster, Worce + ster, Leice + ster

[@stefanandrejcik571]

Viperino U gonna love these campaigns because U won't be defeated if your heroes die 😁😁😁😎😂

[@do0myk]

nice editing

[@DeagleXY]

Now I still don't know, why blue's score rose by 700 points after the wait

[@monkeysuperiority]

I suspect they got resources tributed by gaia so they could train new units, but viper already wiped most of their production buildings.

[@ScipioWasHere]

I call him LongJeans because of Patrice Oneal

[@Dawn_Hika]

Campaign video is cool and all but why are you not yellow?

[@Ian8008]

Les-ster and woostershire.

[@sasasassasasasa1305]

Eduardo el zanquilargo

[@russiazucha]

haha im struggling with certain campaigns on moderate difficulty :C

[@XDanzel1]

wow chat was such a bully here

[@iseeyou5061]

Skip 39:47 :v

[@AnimeFan-dl4qd]

why does he make his fish jokes only in campaign, I wonder?

[@garyermann]

Everyone in chat raging about how Worcester and Gloucester are pronounced "wrong" aren't realizing that there's a reason they're spelled that way. Back at that time that's closer to how they were actually pronounced.

[@IschmarVI]

yes, because certain language-shifts that resulted in the pronunciation of those words becoming what it is now hadn't happened yet at that point in time.

[@hfreistify]

well u have a few scouts but you scout with the most vunnable units :) well risky

[@JohnSmith-gu1dq]

Dafuq is war-chester?! Wuss-tuh

[@MrTavom]

In french it's pronounced : "AWTEVILL"

[@truekingvictory]

wululuster!

[@IschmarVI]

wololocestershire?

[@InceyWincey]

It is glosster and wuhster in the same way it is lesster not lie-cess-ter. They mispronounce it in the game presumably because they’re Americans doing terrible English accents.

[@mashek331]

Nope. It is the historic pronunciation. However, it's changed over the past few centuries to what it is today.

[@InceyWincey]

@@mashek331 I because they are speaking modern English, it makes no sense to slip into the historic pronunciation for the place names in the same way that I don’t call Paris Pah-ree, and the French call London Londre.

[@mashek331]

@@InceyWincey You see, as a scenario designer myself, I would do exactly that! You cannot avoid modern English as it is the language of the day, so we're always looking for ways to bring a little more authenticity to the story. Pronouncing the place names as spoken during the day gives a sense of time and history. For example, if I wanted to do a 'Romans in Britain' scenario, I would be calling London the latinised 'Londinium'. It's also a nice simple way to acknowledge the words themselves, when we may never use them at any other time!

[@InceyWincey]

@@mashek331 personally I find it has the opposite effect, even worse the switch between Modern English and Latin is so jarring that it highlights the fact that you are listening to or reading written dialogue as opposed to genuine conversation.

[@mashek331]

@@InceyWincey that's fair! And I certainly respect your point, but I don't feel the same way. At the end of the day, each to their own!

[@andrewdavis6012]

gloss - chest - ter

[@IschmarVI]

glaugh - sess - ter 111

[@BobRoss1793]

The thumbnail does not quite fit to the video

[@erik7271]

Hello twitch chat!!!! Great video viper you are great :)

[@copparamaswin3396]

spoiler. no death

[@joakim2407]

Hello, Twitch!

[@ebadathar5066]

KZbin saw everything viper you silver boi

[@hzkaka5425]

Nerf britons please!

[@ZIGUS333]

Hi Twitch

[@leftwardglobe1643]

11:20 11111

[@kingkramp5780]

Played by a true silver boy

[@r0mul01]

Hey people from live ^^

[@ardaarsen]

so one of the lords got respawned.. scripting at its best..

[@Vladd0r]

Hi Twitch Chat ;)

[@ahappysaurus.5491]

I hate the way the campaign pronounces Worcester.

[@91Thorus01]

you play too fast Champ

[@Horstmaniacman]

Wrong thumbnail

[@barrymcg3632]

Viper, you are European, why are you pronouncing “Dukes” like an American 11.

[@KorKhan89]

“Worchester” and “Glowchester”, lol! Good effort on the part of the game devs, but British place names aren’t very intuitive to pronounce. I’m slightly surprised the voice actor didn’t give the correct pronunciation, though, since he sounds British (or at least is giving a pretty good imitation of the accent).

[@zeroyuki92]

That was the correct historical pronounciation, basically brits got lazy to call the long name and shortened it and then later insist that the lazy pronounciation is the correct one

[@KorKhan89]

@@zeroyuki92 Shakespeare was already spelling Gloucester as “Gloster” (spelling wasn’t so standardised back then), so we can deduce that these pronunciations - even if not original - are pretty damn old. And since the narrator is speaking modern English and not Middle English, it doesn’t make much sense to selectively give a pseudo-authentic “medieval” pronunciation to the place names and not to everything else. I suspect it was a mistake on the dev’s part. This wouldn’t be the only one either. Elsewhere, they pronounce Scone the way it’s spelled, rather than “Scoon”, which would be the standard pronunciation.

[@zeroyuki92]

1. Engish dictionary at 1709 (A Guide to English Tongue) still spell Gloucester as three syllable Glou - ce - ster. While it's true that in Shakespeare it was already two syllable, seems like the spelling at that time is simply not consistent, with the people in higher status tend to spell it with the original spelling. I'm not exactly historian and it was the only thing that some googling could show me, but since the campaign designer also mentioned that this is the more correct pronounciation for this time period I think it's better if we discuss this with him instead if we really wish to know. 2. The narrator is speaking in modern English, true. However, usually spelling for name of places and person is following the original language (clearly shown in every other campaign that was not about English) and thus there's an argument that the same could be said for Middle English as well. 3. While I agree that two syllables should be a good (or even better) approach for this case, I think there are enough argument to use the original three so that I won't protest about it.

[@samuelbaumgartner1651]

@@KorKhan89 It's standard nowadays to translate common words but not names.

[@creepy3ric]

@@KorKhan89 fun fact: in the German version of this campaign they indeed pronounce it "Gloster" and "Wooster"

[@Ian8008]

He's a Yankee - doesn't know how to pronounce it.

[@NoTLucas]

He's from Norway though? Or am I crazy?

[@Ian8008]

@@NoTLucas Ho, ho - not Viper - the guy narrating the game. Chat got it right with Wooster - then the game mangled it with war-chester. You still may be crazy though...

[@rainbowevil]

@@Ian8008 it’s not mangled - you know why all those letters are in the name? They used to be pronounced, like around the time of this campaign. It’s weird to us, but it is historically accurate.

[@Ian8008]

@@rainbowevil Agreed. Our modern ears may struggle with it but that's true.

[@trisbane4086]

@@Ian8008 You're the one who mangles it, buddy. You don't know how to pronounce your own English words.

[@christopherluke9658]

This game is made by Germans and Americans the pronunciation they use is wrong.

[@olddoggeleventy2718]

We all know if Americans are involved it has to be wrong...lol

[@rainbowevil]

The pronunciation is old, not wrong - do you think those places had all those letters in there for no reason? They used to be pronounced, so it’s a sprinkle of historical knowledge thrown into the voice acting.

[@andrescontreras3502]

VUUUUUUUUUUUAT?