New Train is Completely Different!

[@alfredcribs6718]

"Longdong" shall now be the official call out for that spot.

[@HappyBirthdayMrPresident]

Utter woke nonsense

[@pirate_player396]

@@HappyBirthdayMrPresident yeah it’s always going to be pop dog

[@yourfriend5144]

Yessir

[@qwest9227]

​@@HappyBirthdayMrPresident ?

[@w04h]

I propose the name "Hotdog"

[@NobuNobuSimp]

I get what was being said about Heaven. In Nuke Heaven is a major point to lookout for every time you're on A site, with it also leading outside and wrapping around A bomb site. On Train Heaven is just a random cubby on A site that leads to NOWHERE, and you just sit there and afk because god knows youre not leaving it when you get up there.

[@cassidy8307]

In a world where train somehow wasn't CT sided, i'd add a path to B or CT spawn. Otherwise, yeah, it's a death trap

[@Stormmonkey]

Also on nuke you can watch outside garage and site. And there are 3 ways out if they molitov

[@Dra1n__TV]

Surely the rain is just a test to be implemented in a new release of Aztec. ;)

[@Youskarumbo]

Im waiting for that since 2017

[@PandoraApocalypse]

Epic move

[@steakwilliams4448]

Idk why we can't have Aztec. I get that it's not "competitively viable" but it's a classic and it's fun for anyone not sweating their balls off. Just put it in comp and casual with no particular aspirations to put it in the comp pool if they can't figure it out.

[@ezyawn3161]

Hope. Aztec was one of my favourite map in 1.6

[@Youskarumbo]

@@steakwilliams4448 I agree ☝🏼

[@bene7013]

Yes your last suggestion on rotating map pool is something Valve absolutely needs to do. Take note volvo

[@namelessguy199]

Hoping they would starting doing that next year when they sorted out all the tournaments. Not sure how these two are remotely related but just finding excuses for them on why this is not implemented yet...

[@risb0r492]

I mean, its been over a year and we are still "Season 01"

[@jodda1796]

Get on it volkswagen

[@jzubs]

especially when all maps are revamped

[@mroik]

Yes, but I would keep a couple of maps, like mirage, in every rotation. It is a staple of the game and the ultimate design for a CS map.

[@LeftoverAtoms]

5:12 what the hell are those containers lmao

[@vaenii5056]

Now that you mention it... 😂

[@Nullbound]

lmao, wtf

[@tame1773]

Mini Containers

[@xaxygenus]

looks like AI generated

[@ApofKol]

just google "small shipping container" they are a thing

[@trackeralias1124]

New lineups tool looks great, intuitive, in game.. People are still not going to know lineups half the time, but at least now they have to come up with some creative excuses for it.

[@SyRose901]

You can even create your own lineups too, I'm pretty sure there already are tutorials out on KZbin.

[@Hateful_Bug]

At least they now can instead of going to youtube - can learn these basics ingame. Love to see that

[@AttacMage]

​​@@SyRose901 I remember spending 10-20 minutes every day practicing a spot for a smoke on Mirage B from that area before Apartments that landed on those wood beams and volumetric'd down and around to cover window and arches. there were some lineups on KZbin but none of them were reliable or efficient, so I ended up with my own. pretty fun. still was only a 50% to cover everything, but I could reliably land it up there.

[@adamcarlton3312]

until i saw this video i didnt even know about the feature and spent a good hour or so learning the lineups for the new train.

[@cruh13]

1:47 War Owl went MF DOOM mode 😭🙏🙏

[@Nullbound]

🤣🤣🤣

[@hi_its_jerry]

there's only one ct left

[@somerandomguy8431]

@@hi_its_jerry warowl screaming in our ears like we're deaf

[@osneket5713]

Just so you guys know, The corsair keyboard wont get you banned. Rapid trigger ≠ snap tap. Snap tap, which is now banned, is a type of keyboard macro. It tells the game that the strafe key has been released when the user is still holding it resulting in every counter strafe being "frame perfect". There's a difference between the users inputs and the inputs the game receives. Therefore it's banned. Rapid trigger, which is the fancy tech on the corsair keyboard, simply let's you customise how hard you need to press a key for an input to register. I understand the confusion though. I think the Owl should have put some sort of disclaimer in the ad... Anyways, great video!

[@its_fabled]

Great explanation!

[@pomurain]

That's not really a great explanation for rapid trigger either. In a regular keyboard, you need to press down a key quite a bit, until around the midway point of the switch, in order to activate it and register an input. After that, if you want to register another input, you have to let the key travel up above this midway point, in order to deactivate it, and then you need to press it down again. If a key is fully pressed down (bottomed out) and you let go just a little bit, but not enough to reach the midway point and deactivate the keypress, and then you push it back down, it won't trigger another input. You can test this yourself, simply press down one of the keys on your mechanical keyboard all the way, then very lightly lift up your finger so the key goes up just a tiny bit, and then press it down again. This counts as 1 long keypress (like how you would hold down normally), not 2 keypresses. Meanwhile, with rapid trigger, every movement that presses the key downwards, no matter how small (as small as 0.1mm depending on the setting) will trigger a keypress, and every movement that lets the key travel upwards will deactivate the key. So you can basically bottom out, then let the key come up only a tiny distance, then press it again, and it will trigger 2 keypresses now instead of 1.

[@VexenAndMarluxia]

well i got a 24h ban for using rappid trigger (rappy tappy) with my wooting. idk if the corsair is diffrent in that way

[@elmo9863]

Appreciate you saying you don't like something when it's a matter of opinion. Most youtubers just tend to say "this need to change" or whatever when they don't like something.

[@harz632]

This isn't train, it is T Rain But yes, I have high hopes that the Cobble rework will be good if it's on the same level as Train

[@Cyan-hide]

Valve may have given us tools to learn how to throw smokes, but I guarantee you that 90% of NA players will still refuse learn them

[@pinefilms3141]

and that's why NA will always be NA...

[@Sirronkcuhc1]

Shut up europoor, but before you do what is a smoke? /s

[@tappajaav]

NA FUNNY XDD

[@rattlznake]

With Source 2 this game is so beautiful! It's really interesting to see the extra glossy and reflective guns because of the rain, and the way that the rain is implemented to keep it pretty and also efficient on your frames is awesome! I am no good at CS2 but I would love to see these graphics come to future games like HLX and if we see a revive of Left 4 Dead 3, it would be really interesting if they backported Left 4 Dead 2 maps, especially Hard Rain with these new effects. Can't wait to see where this stuff goes! Thanks for another video as always

[@Skylard-4]

Cheater is still the same lol

[@WuKuVex]

Imagine Danger Zone with this new engine. Ive been playing cs since 1999 and im one of the weird ones who absolutely LOVED danger zone ^^

[@Skylard-4]

@@WuKuVex either they make it extremely foggy like insertion or slightly enhance the visual but i don't think valve is making one until two years

[@WuKuVex]

@@Skylard-4 why foggy? Now that the gameengine doesnt put stupid limitations for the sizes of maps or amount of stuff in them like it used to do, im sure the Danger Zone in cs2 is gonna be a huge success :P we might even get bigger teams or even team-up possibilities... I used to love trio squads when they were inthe csgo DZ when they added it. it was so awesome. at this point I would be happy to have even the csgo maps for DZ until they can make newer and bigger maps :)

[@Skylard-4]

@ old danger zone map are pretty hard to see sometime

[@JuanxDlol]

6:25 That molotov spinned like it was its god sent mission.

[@m3morizes]

I really love the map visually and appreciate how confident they were to make such big changes to the layout. I have quite a few critiques, however, excluding the ones already mentioned. 1. CT AWPers can position themselves on Oil Train such that they have a one-way angle looking at B Heaven. Although they blocked the Long Heaven angle with that rectangular room, the slant on the window side creates this one-way angle from Top Oil, i.e. CTs can see T legs and body but not vice versa. 2. The new positioning of trains outside makes getting out easier for Ts, but the reward is decreased, because there is one fewer train to use to snake around. The openness makes it easier for Ts to exit Main, but harder to stay alive once out. 3. The E-Box position feels nerfed, for both sides. It's not as risky to make it to E-Box for either side (compared to other pathings that ignore E-Box), and the reward isn't as great. 4. Longdog feels a lot more natural and proper; the ladder was really finicky. The issue is that it makes T side rotations to Pop slightly slower and CT pushes/flanks easier, especially considering the pincer they can create if they also push Ramp and B Heaven. 5. The clipping/objects around the B-side entrance to Z makes smoking it from B Halls finicky. The stairs leading up to Z (facing Ramp) are also unfriendly to nades. 6. The Ramp exit smoke (thrown by Ts) is hard to get right so as to avoid one-way angles from CT AWPers at Z. 7. The Hell and Ivy position feels super awkward to play as CT. You feel constantly vulnerable to the now more confident Ts exiting Main, and always exposed to the Ts pushing Ivy. You can also easily get smoked off. 8. The final critique is a summary of the balance of the map. Of just the points I've listed here, 4 disadvantage the Ts and 1 disadvantages the CTs. I phrase it as "nerfing" the respective side, because that's what it feels like, rather than as an advantage to the opposing side. All in all, I really like the map. It's beautiful and fun to play, and will be even more fun with some slight tweaks. I really missed Train. It, along with Mirage and Cache, were my favorite maps from the CS:GO era, probably only because of NA RankS/FPL videos from players like Tarik, Stewie, Moe, Steel, and others. Those were good times. All of my most fond memories are of them playing on Train and Cache (and sometimes Mirage and Dust 2).

[@Jmcgee1125]

4:26 don't worry, we all forget Nuke. And Aztec ;)

[@vincethebanana]

Okay grandpa, I know you got Alzheimers so you should take your nap

[@FatalFrostbyte29]

@@vincethebanana You mean Aztecheimers?

[@KevinDC5]

after a few rounds in train I think I found a nice little spot. Where you discussed the "deliberate angle" @8:20 by B hut, drop down between the train cars, the Ts have to blind drop across you to access site, and if they plant from the other side... youve got lots of prime cover angles on the retake!

[@iobawan]

Bloody hell, Warowl. I've not been watching your videos and playing the game like 4 years but you are still have no closer! (not gonna play anyway, but it was interesting to see the changes to the train!)

[@vincentprime740]

6:25 the earliest molly to main that I tested that a ct can throw, can explode as early as 10s into the round. So the T need to really run out or they dont. That gives the ct a good double nade behind red since T can only be at 2 places at that timing.

[@puckling2250]

Great analysis been waiting since the update

[@ivana6828]

Nobody does a review video of a new map better than you, WarOwl. Enjoying every minute watching this! (I swear im not a bot)

[@FlyingAce1016]

LongDog is a reference to Mike Shapiro's (the voice of gman) song "best long dog " the art from said song release he used in his twitter half life new years eve post... we maybe onto a ARG scavenger hunt like the release for portal 2 but for half life x/3 whatever it will be called

[@gli7chy]

Theres even more numerous small changes with a surprisingly large impact. B site has a broken roof, enabling some utility throws, back B railing sticks out: which means you can’t quickly shift from where you’re gonna peek without jumping up the box, you showed that elevation in olof you have to worry about: but standing Hell on A site enables you to watch that angle only, and long dog has two corners that enables both t’s and ct’s to hide for surprise peeks: much like the electricity box in mirages underpass.

[@jeremylindemann5117]

Yeah I saw forrest do a really high throw from Z through the roof to the lower entrance tunnel on B. That's probably going to be a thing for a while.

[@wriggle_official]

0:21 Months of leaks? A full year!!

[@razorgarf]

I like the somber mood, now please bring Thera back, it was popular here

[@TheWarOwl]

yeah it's kind of not great that they removed Thera and Mills, I think they both had potential.

[@morfy2581]

@@TheWarOwl What are your thoughts on Edin layout-wise?

[@bladerunner4425]

Thera meh, but Mills were nice, I like Netherlandish architecture. Edin is also beautiful, though I liked csgo version more, it was snowy and cloudy. F*** 11am sunny maps.

[@weab]

I really wish they would stop removing stuff, it just incentivizes people to ignore new maps even more. If they want to keep the map pool small they should just remove said maps from server rotation, put them in an "inactive" tab and provide them as a manual download. It's so annoying to see maps just disappear at random.

[@TraeBaldwin]

Same I really enjoyed Thera! Mills was cool too

[@1Rocky43]

I must just say that it’s nice to have you back, we have missed you and our videos ❤

[@FloofysTV]

I have to admit this was a good video. Valve please keep adding maps so WarOwl keeps making good videos

[@peter_verduin]

I don't play cs2 because my computer can't handle it but I've always loved train as a map because it felt so much more realistic than any other in the game. There are train depots in or near my home town because of manufacturing so I've grown up watching freight trains. It's so much easier for me to draw real life parallels, especially now that the map feels so much darker (being overcast and rainy)

[@crabman7413]

I ran into War Owl in a game on Train today. Same pfp, same weapon skins and names, same crosshair, and a badge for 10 years of playing. Very neat interaction.

[@BrotherOrlok]

Anything to say on the other new maps and I will watch. Love you Warowl

[@s1r0lf64]

I will admit, it was a good video. A like has been added.

[@Veptis]

It used to be that CTs own the outside yard/A... now you feel like you step into enemy territory and got no place to play around or fall back to. Like you can't jump between the sites of the bomb train if they are pushing you.

[@KoolMeester2]

I love the skeleton boomerang ost, +tek is a amazing artist

[@rhpmike]

As a mainly 1.3-1.6 player, it's fun to see the rework. Also newer players probably don't realize that besides dust2 almost all of the early maps were heavily CT sided. You could go 2-13 on maps like Train and Nuke and Aztec and not even be losing.

[@fishingninja]

I also really like the map Edin. I think it has a lot of potential for regular competitive.

[@morfy2581]

I love Edin the fast rotations are very refreshing, I think it even has potential for premiere. In my opinion, a lot more maps are competitively viable than we give them credit for. E.g. if Nuke came out today, nobody would even give it a chance.

[@fishingninja]

@morfy2581 I think it's all about the icon. If a map has one of those icons of mills, thera (which is actually shit imo), Edin, etc. they don't get played very much. If a map came out with a proper icon like dust, vertigo, mirage etc. they get much more playtime by the community.

[@morfy2581]

@@fishingninja they totally should allow community maps to upload their own icons

[@fishingninja]

@morfy2581 yes.

[@chadiator5377]

This video is really well made, WarOwl must be inspired

[@ilijacavic9049]

Palais has a book referencing your lack of closer

[@ujaku_]

It's just beautiful, I am really happy with the map aesthetic

[@jayceejohnson-mq5bx]

hey boss we played a game on ancient a while ago im so happy you finally posted you are the BEST LOVE IT!

[@Ru5sCS]

4:26 just a reminder to buy armour if you have 2.8k Nice video :)

[@aninefivesiix]

this is the first CS2 update that has me somewhat optimistic for the future of CS2. New Train is only map besides Inferno to feel truly “next gen” to me and I’m excited to see how the future new maps look.

[@WhyitJellyDonut]

Except the gameplay of inferno isnt new, same boring saving meta for the last decade.

[@kanjuicy585]

Let's have a poll. What should "Pop Dog" be renamed to? 1. Keep it "Pop Dog" 2. Keep it "Long Dog" 3. "Hotdog" 4. "Sausage" 5. "Weiner" 6. "Dachshund"

[@bolchinsky]

I think its a great update! one comment, the previous "camera" position is OP for cts, the contrast is weird to see some agents. I know thew will be working on it , would love to see it in the next major, but i disagree in changing it for vertigo, i like it, i think mirage got to go to rework

[@nobody7295]

I was today years old when i found out im in the top 2% warowl viewers

[@grassy_xy6238]

Honestly I was worried about the rain too but, they really did crush it. After the update I am genuinely seeing that CS is coming back to a good game and I have lots of hope again. :)

[@bros1183]

Game will start to look up when they seriously combat cheaters. It’s cs, not cod. I want better gameplay, not graphics.

[@krisztianfrandsen8780]

@@bros1183 finally someone with common sense fuck this shitter game fr i cannot understand the desire to play against rage hackers, greifers etc. its a fucking dead game why pay for faceit that shit too has problems dealing with these losers. IT IS OVER this game had its chance but its over MOVE ON CS PLAYERS for the love of god move on

[@hehmde]

​@@bros1183 just fix your trust factor

[@roberjanprestesfilho6104]

Hi War Owl, Im having a bad day and its good to have your video to help me cope

[@greybuckleton]

Map guide! OMG man, I need this! Hopefully instead of putting you out of the job this could go so far as becoming "Load TheWarOwls map guide!". We could have "Play like Zywoo" and have map guide for not just nades but all kinda of roles loaded by players.

[@martinzhang5533]

Upper B timing seems to be better for the ct now, and they can throw flashes into it before peeking. Also it is a much more important fight compared to the previous version. Indeed pushing A main looks like the best strat for T every round

[@boblolrus]

great idea for the season premier implementation

[@slainthemaid]

Having more maps, reworking old ones etc and force players to adapt to new places is definitely gonna help keep this game fresh, good idea

[@bradleyfirby648]

8:53 I like that cubby, I've gotten two knife kills from there in like 6 games

[@jackkmart]

This absolutely nails the 'source' aesthetic / tone but with modern fidelity, in my opinion. Looks great. I am absolutely terrible at CS now but I'm tempted to play a few games on this map. Hopefully this quality is emblematic of things going forward.

[@skinnytoadd1820]

Love to hear that sanctaury guardians theme. Immediate dopamine every time.

[@donnythedealer9761]

that boost in Z-Con is so you can look over the bomb train and catch Ts that are out in the open

[@faizansabir6556]

Man the nostalgia hits different on ct spawn , damm valve

[@tehjamerz]

Nostalgia for what? It is reminiscent of nothing

[@peepohappy6309]

6:15 nuke heaven is not only accessable by ladder which is why it works, and why train heaven felt weird

[@dack981]

We should just call it "dachshund" or "dox" for short instead of the more syllabic "long dog".

[@CoolSilver]

You can call any CTs guarding it wieners

[@worldycloop]

I am 32 years old and been playing counter strike on and off since i was like 7 or 8. This new train map is the first complete competetive map ever made imo

[@siaubalas9638]

Finally a map not tsking place in a middle of sunny day

[@sskuk1095]

In my Opinoin, there should be another way for the Ts to take Longdog, I mean Longdong.

[@justinwhite4995]

The grenade lineup reminds me of this old series of maps from GO, it used to give you lineups, EXACTLY like the valve one, and they had many for multiple maps (Dust2, Mirage, Train, Nuke)

[@SyRose901]

Pretty sure the CS2 versions of them are out already.

[@WitchingHourJP]

yesss dude i kinda love most the changes to this map, the rework is pretty awesome!

[@freshporkbun]

IM SO HAPPY TO SEE IT BACK

[@Kicice]

The new map looks amazing and will probably play amazing. Although I will always be nostalgic over the old train with its tight angles.

[@earthling_parth]

I have to admit it's a good video so I liked the video. Excited for CS2

[@coldloner7453]

I miss ladder and the biggest let down is on the B site where you can’t enter the little shack up top at 8:31

[@JOKERSMILE117]

As a person who likes to play nuke, I would like a bit of a rework mabey drop the heights a bit to make it possible to boost more areas instead of needing to use ladders would be cool

8:45 I think this was made for CT's advantage because Ts should not be rotating that fast in this area

[@poonslap]

Welcome back Warowl.

[@runarsk8]

Dude you’ve made it official. It will never not be called longdong

[@MrUberjoey]

OOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!! I have no closer is his closer! Crazy.

[@GlorifiedShed]

Ive personally found this map much harder as T than it used to be, but definitely an interesting change on the original. Will be nice to learn it properly. The rain is amazing tho

[@Humansdorp21]

Counter argument: "I still have no closer" is a closer

[@commissarf1196]

6:11 "heaven is gone" Blasphemy! How dare they remove such an iconic part of train!

[@bit_ronic]

i adore the rain effect the entire map has, but more than that, i love how they actually bothered to add droplets on the viewmodel and character model when you're outside instead of just putting a wet sheen over everything.

[@1011340]

8:20 that spot has to be open to check with the boost from window

[@cs_mns]

Reminds me of source train which is definately a good thing! Had alot of fun on this new map ❤

[@Bluesmiley05]

Keyboard “fast as you”.. I am slow af 😂

[@sskuk1095]

Now that we have Train, I can't wait to see Tuscan!

[@Summanis]

I hope that they delay Ts to A main, but shorten their path to longdog.

[@ObieCS2]

I like your confidence at the end 😂

[@JackieRGB]

my first game on train my fps suddenly dropped midgame but i cannot tell if it's only a one-off thing, gotta play more on train but i like the map so far, just need to get used to the new layout but otherwise, pretty good imo

[@SarcasticLampr4y]

I came here for train, meanwhile I have been looking at K70 keyboards for the last 4 days. hmm well done sir.

[@mortalsno4086]

Friendship ended with popdog, longdog is new best friend

[@Anicka1]

i am not calling it Long Dog its Popdog and nothing else

[@Micha-Hil]

8:39 Nice.

[@zgaminggallery9910]

can't believe you said you like the changes with a straight face.

[@JordanMarchetto]

Dang, he showed the strafe jump inside; now it won't be as impressive when I do it.

[@JustSomeDudeYouKnow]

Liked for option one, commented for clarification, take your engagement good sir, tell valve what we WANT.

[@koleszgdanska7149]

0:13 the entire game is not E-Sports ready

[@anzullic]

The rain is cool and how it interacts with the view model. I always wanted winter maps for Christmas season and having different weather wouldn't make the maps so stale. It's just boring to play the same map a billion times. But I do need a new keyboard, but a silent one... :)

[@jacksonpalmer8955]

Liked specifically for the nuke heaven jumpcut talking about heaven bring removed

[@dzicsenpai5284]

agree with new maps per season and having 2 season per year makes the most sense but kinda sounds like to littel change to the map pool

[@cromtuiseagain]

Util throws being included in practice mode feels like something that should've been added since CSGO

[@uexd4459]

Best remade ever made i loved that

[@snacks1755]

New train is excellent. Does it need some tweaks? Definitely but overall the map rework seems solid.

[@greekindependence]

Cobblestone will be our complicated map hopefully, I can’t wait for my favorite map to return

[@trinity.channel]

0:25 If that happens, all hope is lost.

[@ILoveforGames]

One thing i dont like about it is how A is very T sided right now, they need to make it more wider/less claustrophobic-cy? But i like the looks of the map

[@Koda6599]

I have to admit... this was indeed a good video.

[@Nick-ij5nt]

Every single change they made fixed all the problems that I had with Train except for the ladder change. It takes too long for the Ts to get there and the CTs can be pushed very deep if no one is out T mid watching the cross. They should add another staircase on the right side that connects closer to T spawn that way the Ts get there faster and it also forces the CTs into holding a 50/50 angle if there's no CT in upper B watching the drop down.

[@RottenDK]

New pop is horrible

[@Nick-ij5nt]

@@RottenDK It would be good if there was another staircase connecting on the other side so the Ts could get there faster. Having to do a drop down and then a 270 degree turn while you're getting shot in the back from B ramp is just objectively stupid design.

[@RottenDK]

@@Nick-ij5nt just a ladder with a drop where you can be there on same timing as ct and then you can flash for you self