Sharpening a Swept Back Grind or Irish Grind on a Bowl Gouge - How To

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@joepapalia-xs1ds
@joepapalia-xs1ds Жыл бұрын
Steve.....that was excellent and highly instructive. Thank you
@govejohnson6697
@govejohnson6697 Жыл бұрын
Excellent teaching video. Very clear and concise. Makes it easier to acquire this skill.
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@billstortz5046
@billstortz5046 Жыл бұрын
Steve, I learned from this video, so I too am thanking you!
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@stephenwhite9534
@stephenwhite9534 4 жыл бұрын
I am new to turning and this sort of information is invaluable, thank you so much for your help.
@deanmiller294
@deanmiller294 5 жыл бұрын
7 year old video and one of the best videos I’ve ever seen. I’ve struggled with getting wings on my 5/8 bowl gouge. Thanks.
@joepapalia-xs1ds
@joepapalia-xs1ds Жыл бұрын
Well done. Very helpful. Thank you.
@lesdandridge8288
@lesdandridge8288 2 жыл бұрын
Simply the best demo of the process! Thanks so much for this excellent resource!
@AndrewMoizer
@AndrewMoizer 4 ай бұрын
Just re-found this video and it clearly answered my bowl gouge sharpening questions. Thanks.
@knothead5
@knothead5 4 ай бұрын
Very good video. Answered some things not in other videos. Will watch it again so I'll have this grind and the standard grind that some call the bottom feeder.
@kenharris6316
@kenharris6316 2 жыл бұрын
I have a new favorite channel! I've only watched a couple of your videos, but I'm already hooked! They are very clear and thorough.
@EdRaastad-rj6mi
@EdRaastad-rj6mi Жыл бұрын
Boy, did I learn a lot. Thank you Steve!
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@212Warthog
@212Warthog Жыл бұрын
Very useful as I setup my shop after covid.
@jamescampbell9156
@jamescampbell9156 3 жыл бұрын
Good Job Very Helpful Cheers Steve.
@garyjohnson9297
@garyjohnson9297 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve , I now have better idea of how to sharpen this very useful tool
@brianjoneswoodturning3682
@brianjoneswoodturning3682 4 жыл бұрын
Really Useful and weel explained - Irish Grind here we come
@richardschaffling9882
@richardschaffling9882 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video thanks
@fdalchemist7309
@fdalchemist7309 4 жыл бұрын
Old video... but thanks for it! One of the better grind videos I’ve watched so far.
@JamesRousseaux
@JamesRousseaux 3 жыл бұрын
Great guide! Thank you for sharing! :)
@jefflynch3946
@jefflynch3946 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, superb instructions.
@randykniebes5364
@randykniebes5364 7 жыл бұрын
As always very informative and detailed on the set up and sharpening procedures.... I just bought a grinder, oneway system, and two CBN grinding wheels, and I am going out to my shop to try to replicate your sharpening techniques.... Thanks again!!!
@noahdanielsmith
@noahdanielsmith 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video Steve. Straight to the point and very useful information. Also appreciate the different camera angles to see exactly what you were doing.
@PaulSmith-fg8sz
@PaulSmith-fg8sz 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks.
@ScrapwoodCity
@ScrapwoodCity 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome information, thank you very much for sharing!
@ernestthebo5441
@ernestthebo5441 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks Steve. A true craftsman at work is a wonderous thing! Your emphasis that the jig won't do all the work really got my attention. Thanks for all the effort you put into making such a thorough tutorial
@raymondhorvatin1050
@raymondhorvatin1050 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this explains a lot
@victorapodaca679
@victorapodaca679 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. I am a new turner and have learned the importance of have a sharp too! Your video, helped me tremendously. Thanks again!
@ajwilsenach
@ajwilsenach 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks .That was very clear and concise.
@charleseaton6212
@charleseaton6212 Жыл бұрын
Thanks great video a lot of great info
@paulbrace8098
@paulbrace8098 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, I’ve been looking to do my gouges to 55°, very informative.
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore Жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@RG-ce5hj
@RG-ce5hj 2 жыл бұрын
I realize this is an old video but it happens to be exactly what I needed. I just purchased a set of bowl gouges with standard grind and then low and behold this video came up as a suggested video. Thanks!
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore 2 жыл бұрын
Old but still turning! Thanks for watching
@emostorm7
@emostorm7 6 жыл бұрын
So much better in explaining... What I needed thanks!
@timgarner
@timgarner 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@jackskelton6773
@jackskelton6773 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks👍👍
@Zinski1911
@Zinski1911 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, well done. This is the perfect tutorial and addressed my situation perfectly. I can't wait to get home tonight and utilize this information.
@AlFurtado
@AlFurtado 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video very well displayed Thanks Albert
@daveurban1018
@daveurban1018 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@sawdustjoe
@sawdustjoe 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, packed with a lot of good information. Thanks!
@jamesjudd2338
@jamesjudd2338 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Ive been hearing about this grind and wanting to use it but didn't know how to form and sharpen. Thanks for the info!
@2Langdon
@2Langdon 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You took enough time to show it clearly, very good demonstration. I made my own jig something along the lines of the one shown and this will help me set it up better and use it right.Thanks again.
@pietervanengelen3933
@pietervanengelen3933 9 жыл бұрын
Just watched your video. Great, now I know the proper way to grind my gouge. Thanks
@revolknhoj
@revolknhoj 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you
@Wolfen6
@Wolfen6 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. This video really helped me out.
@michaelbyrnes7944
@michaelbyrnes7944 10 ай бұрын
I use a jig on 8 inch beach grinder with white wheels.. I wish I had those wheels on your grinder how beautiful less heat with your style of grinding wheel
@BlindWoodTurner
@BlindWoodTurner 11 жыл бұрын
This video is what I've been searching for.It will be of great use to me.Thank you for sharing it with us. Chris
@hrned
@hrned 10 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thanks a lot, Steve. Excellent video.
@niklar55
@niklar55 8 жыл бұрын
Very informative, and very helpful. Thanks.
@petergibbons3064
@petergibbons3064 11 жыл бұрын
That was excellent, thanks for sharing it. Have just been fighting with a particularly tough bit of end grain that has been kicking me back out and decided that I needed a different approach. Off to the grinder!
@bluesideup007
@bluesideup007 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo!
@alansimpson596
@alansimpson596 11 жыл бұрын
Really helpful video. This sweptback grind is so important to good turning. Many thanks, Alan.
@timelliott8047
@timelliott8047 8 ай бұрын
Where do I find the depth gauge on the bottom of the jig?? ?
@woodstoney
@woodstoney 10 жыл бұрын
Very helpful Steve and much appreciated!
@StiloFpv
@StiloFpv Жыл бұрын
Very usefull info😀👍🛩️
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@buckmetta
@buckmetta 8 жыл бұрын
helpful tips thanks from Brazil sir
@HonorTheTree
@HonorTheTree 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you- this will be very helpful!
@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts
@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding tutorial.
@Warrf
@Warrf 3 жыл бұрын
What a nice grinder setup. Must be a American made unit
@MANJITSINGH-ko2oi
@MANJITSINGH-ko2oi 6 жыл бұрын
thank u Steve. great video.
@NatureAmbienceVibes
@NatureAmbienceVibes Жыл бұрын
Great job Mr I am startung woodrurner and bought wolverine system for sharpenning . I have big grinder and need the Geiger vertical solution to move up the level of fixture. Can you help me us it possible to buy it sonewhere? Thanks fir support
@alansouthwood2874
@alansouthwood2874 2 жыл бұрын
great video do you ever hone the inside of the flute
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore 2 жыл бұрын
I usually don't but it would help to polish the inside flute (not needed every time you grind)
@alwaysanovice
@alwaysanovice 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve! most helpful!!
@petergreco2220
@petergreco2220 Жыл бұрын
Steve very informative what is the distance from the wheel to the pivot pocket on the arm? I also see you're grinding way above centre of the wheel
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore 10 ай бұрын
HI Peter, I can check the distance but what is important is that for your grinder, you stay in the upper quadrant of the grinding wheel. You never want to be at the centerline for gouges and skews
@kandiecandelaria1423
@kandiecandelaria1423 4 жыл бұрын
Can I use my tormek to accomplish this?
@paulgreen2863
@paulgreen2863 2 жыл бұрын
I need one of those jigs.
@kandiecandelaria1423
@kandiecandelaria1423 4 жыл бұрын
I have a tormek sys can I do this on that?
@NipperDog
@NipperDog 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! I'm sold on the CBN wheels too.
@sylvaingregoire9262
@sylvaingregoire9262 4 жыл бұрын
Awsome info thx for that . Now my gouge i don’t know how to mesure if it’s a 3/8 or 1/2 etc and if it’s a small one like the 3/8” can i make an irish grind with it or should i buy my self one that will be dedicated and better for that grind ? Thx for answering 😉🇨🇦
@robertbell5609
@robertbell5609 2 жыл бұрын
What is the jig lift kit? Availability?
@hectorglover6392
@hectorglover6392 8 жыл бұрын
Baldor grinder? I presume that's your preferred brand of grinder! Nice set up and great video. thank you!
@EdwardGodwin-f2p
@EdwardGodwin-f2p Жыл бұрын
You mentioned the rig that is needed to get the grind but didn't say how to get it. Is it needed. If so, where do I get it ans $$$$??
@darrylaltizer8486
@darrylaltizer8486 Жыл бұрын
Does the gouge get hot?
@milanacimovic5979
@milanacimovic5979 2 жыл бұрын
Gde se mogu nabaviti alati
@amazonquest2012
@amazonquest2012 5 жыл бұрын
can you please give me the measurements of the Don Giega arm system vertical solution, and spacer I am from North Wales and want to attempt make it.
@GuitarPlayer_Kinda
@GuitarPlayer_Kinda 5 жыл бұрын
When sharpening with a CBN wheel, does the tool heat up? I didn't see him dip the tool in water like I see with the stone wheels.
@rbsmd49
@rbsmd49 3 жыл бұрын
Steve, I am puzzled by your multiple passes on the fine stone. If not trying to shape but just sharpen the edge. Usually, one pass is enough for me to remove the red marker from the tool and the bevel is evenly ground with the fine wheel degree of smoothness. No 80 grit marks left. Am I missing something?
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you talking about the the final finish of the tool? (Around 16:30) If so, you are right that normally it takes just a single pass if the tool is not new (meaning still requires shaping) At 16:24 I mention "If the tool is not new, this would be done in a single pass" which is what I believe you mean, and you are correct. Since the tool in this video is being shaped for the first time, I need to spend a few more passes getting a convex shape to the side grind, which is not easy to see until the end. For future sharpenings, it should only take a single pass or two, as long as the setup is identical on the next sharpening. I hope I understood your question correctly
@buzzgreen20
@buzzgreen20 8 жыл бұрын
What is the distance that the jig you used initially sets between the pocket and the wheel of the grinder since that needs to be a constant?
@artdemers1230
@artdemers1230 7 жыл бұрын
Early in your demo you said something about getting a cove or grove in the tip ooopps ...Now what can I do to correct this mistake ?
@jimbob8162
@jimbob8162 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I'm coming across a bit of a problem. After a few sharpenings I start to get the wing tips near the tip coming back. Am I doing something wrong?
@wayneburleson9204
@wayneburleson9204 4 жыл бұрын
what is your RPM on the grinder
@cmhes1
@cmhes1 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video. My hubbie asks if you have any tips about care for the CBN wheel
@lyndalanthony635
@lyndalanthony635 2 жыл бұрын
I used the swept back grind for a lot of years, but switched to the 40/40. I like that a lot better and I really never figured out why the swept back wing was of any advantage.
@thewoodturningstore
@thewoodturningstore 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lyndal, the 40/40 grind has a swept back grind, although it is sharpened with a straight sweep. not a convex sweep. The swept back is useful for shear scraping and that can be done with a 40/40 configuration or something steeper like a 50 or 60 degree grind
@camerahammerwoody9196
@camerahammerwoody9196 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. Thank you for a very informative video. Very helpful to a new wood turner such as myself. The grinder you are using seems to be very fast. I was always taught slow was better for sharpening due to loosing the temper in the steel, but, I had never even heard of the CBN grinding wheels. Does this make a difference? I am more than a little confused. I am on the cusp of purchasing a grinder and wheels any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you once again.
@specialsauce305
@specialsauce305 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen a few turners recommend a 180 grit for shaping and 600 grit for finishing. Are there any benefits or downfalls to either? Thanks for the video!
@johnchalikian3239
@johnchalikian3239 Жыл бұрын
If you used the 180 grit for that first part of shaping you would take 2 or 3 times longer to get the initial shape. Personally, polishing to 600 grit won't make a lot of difference. Many different opinions on that.
@blackemmons
@blackemmons 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. I'm getting ready to do this. JimE
@pete4199
@pete4199 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@Alinverse
@Alinverse 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t you have to quench the steel in water periodically as it gets super hot?
@aDrunkSailor82
@aDrunkSailor82 4 жыл бұрын
Not with the cbn wheels.
@erikkayV
@erikkayV 7 жыл бұрын
Where did you disapear to Steve? Loved your content and would love to see more.
@slowfootlabeef704
@slowfootlabeef704 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks!
@petermitchell10
@petermitchell10 9 жыл бұрын
Great video very helpful can you tell me if you can get them grinding jigs in the UK if so can you give me the link Thank you Pete
@randymagee735
@randymagee735 4 жыл бұрын
was this a u shaped or v shaped gouge
@benpress8884
@benpress8884 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks, although I have to say my father was a machinist and he taught me to never put my hands near revolving machinery. That was over 50 years ago and I still cringe when I see people do it.
@RickMcQuay
@RickMcQuay 11 жыл бұрын
I'm coveting that grinder.
@michaelchambers9038
@michaelchambers9038 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, i think you have a really good demo video. I'm in the uk and make wood sharpening jigs similar to the ones you use. would you mind if I put a link to you on your you tube on my sales page please, regards, Mick chambers.
@benniegreen498
@benniegreen498 6 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the sharpening jig?
@jimcurnow4538
@jimcurnow4538 11 жыл бұрын
Steve, On your Phenolic Blocks for height, can you tell me the thickness you are using and also the angle of the cuts (block) for the tool arm? Are they 45' and did you cut them on a bandsaw? Thanks..... Great Videos......... Jim
@Hp2G1
@Hp2G1 11 жыл бұрын
Great video! At what speed is the grinder turning, and what is the grit of the CBN wheels?
@dancunliffe6646
@dancunliffe6646 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know also
@archades54
@archades54 6 жыл бұрын
Do you ever strop it with polish?
@jordanhenderson3741
@jordanhenderson3741 8 жыл бұрын
U or V cut down the flute of that gouge?
@Teddy-zz6kp
@Teddy-zz6kp 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this :)
@buzzgreen20
@buzzgreen20 8 жыл бұрын
is your depth that you use 2 inches?
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 7 жыл бұрын
what makes other gouges so much better and more expensive...just the kind of steel and heat treat process? Aren't most all gouges HSS and heat treated? Even the Harbor freight gouges are HSS steel. Don't know how well they are heat treated if at all though. Would knife making steel be a good choice if one wants to make there own like O1, A2, 3V..etc tool steels?
@LeeCaterson
@LeeCaterson 6 жыл бұрын
a lot of the better turning tools are M2 or PM and a bunch are cryogenic. Check out Crown, Ashley Isles and Carter & Sons
@blargkliggle1121
@blargkliggle1121 6 жыл бұрын
Any steel with an AISI-SAE grade of O is an oil-hardened steel designed to be cold-worked, an A grade is also for cold-working but is air-hardened. Only steel with graded with a T or M is considered a high speed steel, they refer to titanium steel alloys and molybdenum steel alloys respectively. When you say 3v I assume you mean CPM 3V, this is a trade name for a crucible steel alloy with properties close to M2 high speed steel. M2 is sort of an entry level hss, it can't really compete with todays molybdenum and cobalt alloys. So out of the three, you could only use CPM 3V for high speed applications and even then you'd get tools no better than the harbor freight stuff.
@waterfordrs22
@waterfordrs22 5 жыл бұрын
Blarg, I disagree with the notion that M2 can’t compete wit say M42 or PM steels. It depends on the application and the design of the tool. I’ve got both M2 and M42 skews for example. They are compatible. I do keep the M42 skew at a slightly steeper angle which makes it better for peeling cuts and harder woods..... but they function comparatively. I hone my skews after they are ground on a wheel. M2 is much easier to hand hone. Regardless of which steel holds an edge longer, my habit is to hand hone with a CBN card before the tool goes dull anyway. For spindle work I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a well made M2 tool. For face work involving lots of end grain cutting, that’s where M42 and the PM steels really shine and stand out.
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