Old School vs Modern Muscle Cars - drag racing

Please check out our second channel Wheels Plus / @wheelsplus611
Old vs New Muscle Cars drag racing - Chevy Nova ,Dodge Demon ,New Shelby GT 500 ,Classic 70's Ford Mustang , Chevy Chevelle ,Mustang GT ,Dodge Dart ,Chevy Camaro ZL1 and more

[@RichSutherlandBB]

A lot of people watch these and think the old school drag cars are the underdog…I’m just amazed that these new school daily-drivers can keep up at all with completely modified drag cars

[@louistweedale9589]

Plus modern cars are typically a lot heavier. So torque to weight ratio favours the old cars

[@nickyj3571]

@@louistweedale9589 tell that to the 1975 Deville

[@lovebugcarchia2555]

@@nickyj3571 LOL

[@picallo1]

Some of the new Hellcats and Cobras will spank the pants off older cars unless they're fully modified and those things are daily drivers nowadays. You see the times on some the newer Mustangs and Challengers. Low 10s. That is lightning.

[@mustangandfrankenstein]

I'm old school all the way and have a 93 mustang notch with 460 dual carb tunnel ram .and I wouldn't sell 8t for million or trade for a brand new one that I couldn't work on ..you have to drive my car or it will drive you .no cruise control or heated seats it's hard loud fast fire and gas and rubber fire ride and brother I'll have it no other way ........it was my daily driver after my divorce..luckily I only worked 2 Miles down the road at 4 miles to the gallon ....old school rules and the shirts still come up on the boulevard here in Myrtle Beach baby....wooooooooo

[@kareemhailey9585]

The goal for todays muscle cars is to be as fast as possible and still be a comfortable daily driver

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

True!

[@isawul00k]

and then sell it for 1/3 the value it would be stock...

[@Impactjunky]

The classics are even more comfortable. Their big cushy seats, softer suspension with much more travel and much higher profile tires all results in a cloud like ride quality unmatched by todays washboard/horse buggy ride quality caused by super tight suspension, sporty less cushy seats and sporty low profile tires that don't absorb the bumps as well as larger ones. The nicest riding cars I've ever ridden in were a 66 Chrysler Newport and a 71 Cadillac Calais. They both ride like you are on a cloud. The Chrysler came from the factory with a 383 big block and I outran a guy in a modern Daytona Charger with it on the way to work one day. The Cadillac also came with a 365 HP 7.7 liter 472 cubic inch monster of a V8 with 500 foot pounds of torque and really hauls ass for such a big car. It has a 3 speed auto like most old muscle cars and will go 90 MPH in second gear in drive. Haven't seen top speed but it will pull for a long time after pinning the 120 MPH speedo.

[@youkindacute6898]

Facts

[@michaelrojas3872]

Just get a Tesla it’s faster and more comfortable

[@stevenguajardo6049]

The Duster has a special place in my heart, my dad taught me how to drive in his Duster. Wish dad had kept it. Miss him and that old rust bucket.

[@redblackstripe]

By the standards of when the old school cars came out, they were wickedly fast!

[@BillyDaGoat1017]

Right! And being basically tanks

[@Impactjunky]

@BLACKSTRIPE They still are wicked fast considering the modern muscle cars all need computerized superchargers to reach the same level of performance as the old carbureted V8's. I have a 68 Satellite/Roadrunner that looks just like the green one with a black hood in this video, it is the same car under the skin as a 68-70 Charger. I put together a badass 360 small block that is making about the same power as a stock 440 six pack big block. My car only weighed 3400 pounds stock and a 2021 Hemi Charger weighs 4200 pounds. That's an 800 pound difference in the old cars favor. The Hemi in the 2020 Charger R/T package was rated at 375 HP and 395 TQ stock, and the old school 440 Six Pack was rated at 390 HP and 490 TQ stock. So this means the old car not only weighs almost one thousand pounds less than its modern counterpart but it also makes almost 100 more foot pounds of torque and makes notably more horsepower. I've seen this play out in real life too when a guy in a new Hemi Charger R/T tried to outrun me three times in a row at three different stop lights and I beat him badly all three times. To help put this into perspective the 30 year world record for the highest torque rating in a production car was held by the 1970 Buick GSX at 500 foot pounds and wasn't outdone until the series 2 V10 Vipers came out 30 years later. The 440 six Pack was just a few numbers shy of that world record and came in cars like mine that weighed about the same as a 90's Supra or a Fox body Mustang. This is why it almost always takes a supercharger or some other drastic measures to get a modern muscle car to compete with an older one. The old ones just had purely insane torque and crazy weight to HP ratios.

[@frankmc5112]

There' s really nothing old school about old school. You have a shell. Put whatever you want in it. I'm almost certain they weren't running vintage Offenhauser intakes on that "Old School" stuff. Lol.

[@frankmc5112]

@@BillyDaGoat1017 Which cars are tanks? A modern Dodge Challenger weighs 4100 pounds. The new stuff is all heavier.

[@Nightshade_787B]

@@frankmc5112 The older Cadillacs weighed more than that. The Ford Thunderbirds weighed a shit ton as well. Like around 4700-5300 lbs.

[@frankcastle1359]

ide still get an old one but only cus they look cool. you need to replace the whole drive train and suspension to make the drivable bit its worth it

[@jgdroptop1]

Old school all day for me. They have nostalgia and just so badass

[@tskraj3190]

I love the sound of Murica.

[@GODZILLATORINORACING]

Excellent ,Love these matchups !!

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYusloKFlKh9rbc

[@22vx]

Fun! Thanx for sharing! 🚗 🏎

[@musclebone7875]

Old school natural aspirated muscle vs new school supercharged muscle 💪

[@afigaiskansalim2182]

@Alec The Car Guy I don't know but these new school muscles sure be fucking them old schoolers up

[@Logo0593]

Old school all the way, got a 63 Chevy Pickup that took a 6.2 diesel in a dodge.

[@KaMaat_83]

Old school for me 🔥🏁🔥

[@ZENIGMATV]

It’s no longer about car knowledge it’s how much you can spend at the dealership.

[@spoolyboi9434]

Some people are still knowledgeable about cars I will admit it's not as common but back in the day those old cars were once considered fancy high tech etc, you didn't see guys go buy a model T Ford when they could buy a chevelle a camaro etc people like what's new and up to date they want their heat and ac and other comforts

[@FromTheNard]

if you’re gonna race, race. if you want your iphone connections, entertainment system buy a fukkin kia.

[@rinzler3260]

Playing with words huh?

[@shadowgamerz1594]

Old school American muscle

[@iggyfritz7150]

And not to mention it doesn't cost $200 to replace the headlights 😂

[@sharitcuello5026]

Ami si me encantan estos VS Bro antiguos VS modernos vaya buen video bro

[@mrshifter8220]

Old School for me.....good video, thanks!

[@TheTriviumhead]

That Duster "dusted" itself.

[@PhillyDee215]

Nice runs😎

[@oscarhenriquez8899]

Last race proved it all, old school for me lmaoo

[@themarathoncontinues2289]

Mustang with all that noise and it still got dragged 😆

[@MukkyMuk]

I mean he made it to where the car was drag tuned.

[@drivescene6747]

If you guys are talking about the GT500, it’s on street tires and struggles with grip off the line, if it was on slicks then it’s a different story

[@TheHeavyWing74]

Seeing a nova smack a mustang brings a smile to my face

[@CoyoteFTW]

Mustang needs a driver that nova is slow

[@TheHeavyWing74]

@@CoyoteFTW Slow or not I’ll take the Nova over the Mustang any day of the week.

[@nekrova7123]

@@TheHeavyWing74 smocking crack rock who would take some ugly ass dusty nova over a gt350...lol no one besides a boomer

[@TheHeavyWing74]

@@nekrova7123 I am 18. I would take some ugly, dusty Nova over a gt350, and I wouldn’t have to think twice about it.

[@nekrova7123]

@@TheHeavyWing74 must be one dumb 18 year old lol..gt350 could buy like 30 novas 🤣🤣🤣

[@lulupm6739]

Old,old….every time:)) love channel

[@itzbluetv]

3:17 was so disrespectful 😭😭😭

[@richardlong8014]

I've driven both old and new muscle cars in their time. Both insanely fast. I prefer new for many reasons, especially retro. Better gas mileage, safer handling characteristics, higher top ends and still catch your eye. Most of us aren't wasting our time on Qtr mile dashes for ten seconds.

[@andreamccullen9956]

I agree 👍 💯

[@owvch3211]

i love this channel. including the name

[@WheelsYouTube]

👍 Thanks a lot

[@corvetteboyz]

Classic muscle forever period.

[@Mike-vo2rp]

Any muscle is good enough

[@zeze_YT5506]

I can see doms charger dominating every car in this video😂😂

[@KentaElZeroM]

The 18 shift and the 3k hp Detroit muscle that runs on “Family” not gas.

[@zeze_YT5506]

@@KentaElZeroM his charger has nos they dont and if dom doesnt ssc tuatara will destroy every car in fast and furiouse franchise not counting acceleration

[@tbone2416]

Your car is fast. But FAMILY IS FASTER

[@yeahwhatev3182]

@@zeze_YT5506 why are you comparing multi million dollar hyper cars to built 60s drag cars

[@daothedutchy3495]

Idk but for some of the built old schools with big slicks, I was expecting faster times. Maybe my standards are a bit high because when my dad used to drag race, he had an 87 fox body that made around 600 or 700 for the motor and then had a shot of nitrous that brought it up close to a 1000hp. I believe he used to run consistent 9s when he did the 1/4 mile. He did have one day where he did an 8.5 at around 160. He actually had to switch to 1/8 mile after that because he didn't have all the proper safety equipment when he ran that 8.5

[@arcadefrog9914]

Maybe I'm missing something but there's quite a few line jumpers.

[@sharitcuello5026]

Bro me gustó ese duelo entre el Pontiac gto the judge blanco de 1970 VS Dodge demon azul oscuro Bro buena carrera

[@mexicanmoke3260]

that challenger is badass

[@bryeshawnbutler6932]

Old school had a good start off on the other hand new school had good acceleration

[@afigaiskansalim2182]

From this sentence it looks like you said the old schoolers have experience and the new schoolers dont

[@rolyreyes5097]

85% of the Old Muscles jumped smh...

[@RichardRennes]

Was just thinking that at the end of the video. Not sure of the amount of them, but alot for sure.

[@SquireSCA]

Its interesting to watch, where you can tell which cars are using standard manual transmissions, and SEE how much it slows them down...

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Takes a mopar to catch a mopar

[@triggered_trap3763]

except for the Chevelle at the end passing the scat pack

[@rogeliorodriguez2319]

Mopar or no car 💪🏼😌💯

[@Welcometofacsistube]

@@triggered_trap3763 takes a mopar to catch a mopar

[@versacechang1521]

Except that yellow duster that ran 17 seconds ? Lol I’ve seen stock Honda’s run quicker than that

[@KiranKumar_46]

My choice, old school muscle!

[@zain-vc2wx]

cool 👍🏽

[@marquanbrand-moorehead1887]

Plymouth Roadrunner

[@LegitLaughs1]

What's with the delayed starts for some of the racers?

[@drivescene6747]

Remember, the race is against the clock

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Bracket racing.

[@strawberryjam5080]

@3:58 Both drivers have good taste in cars that’s for sure.

[@Matt10r80]

The snake 0-60 is slow but any roll that car is a beast

[@neissy]

Am I missing something or do half these drivers jump the start?

[@marquanbrand-moorehead1887]

Yesss Classic

[@gusjuly6633]

Aahh nothing better than watching drag racing while pooping

[@marquanbrand-moorehead1887]

Let's Go Classic Muscle

[@1320Jason]

Nice

[@rqs47alyo31]

Nhiều xe đẹp quá bạn ơi

[@Chowderisanoodle2024]

The last guy messed something up off the start there was gray some pouring out the exhaust

[@ronaldovladesammaragames8391]

Os antigos teriam q ter câmbio com 6 marchas. Aí a coisa firia séria.

[@Eddie_Bielak]

old drag cars are the best

[@peterswientek6749]

I'd still take the classics over the new muscle.

[@iam_.davidddd7743]

1969 camaro and 1965 mustang is the One

[@youkindacute6898]

Nah that 5.0 kinda sexy

[@CentralTexasRailJetProductions]

1969 Chevelle SS 396, my dream car. 60s Muscle still looks great today. Turn heads when I see something on the street like a chevelle, C3 vette, 68 Charger, A Classic Impala etc etc.

[@iam_.davidddd7743]

@@CentralTexasRailJetProductions classic cars r so hot man like those are OGs, owning one

[@aidenbiven853]

Yes

[@mellowpandora8316]

"old school" most of them have modern power plants tbh tho.

[@cchen4754]

Yup

[@Speedyfalcon]

Stairway to heaven Led Zeppelin

[@marquanbrand-moorehead1887]

Ohhhhhhhhhh YESSSSSSS 1968 Chevrolet Nova Beat That Dodge Hellcat

[@fahadanwar5788]

Old school alwys frm ma hart 💓💓

[@ashupashu5559]

The older cars look way scarier

[@willh6838]

Read the article and it appears that Novas are being labelled Chevelles.

[@frankburns5975]

While I love old school cars... They're not as fast as today's cars. They're gorgeous, but they aren't as fast.

[@stuartlang9968]

Nice silver nova

[@richardmonroe125]

I love drag racing cars but that American muscle cars to worth $100.00 for it

[@jonomotive2000]

There’s nothing better a classic has then a modern day muscle car

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@rastahill]

Old schools!

[@micktaze9412]

A 2022 mustang drives by, no one looks twice. But a 69 Chevelle drives by, multiple ppl look. Just saying.

[@cchen4754]

Some of those old cars have new modern or rebuilt engines… so idk I’m sure if it’s old vs new. New would win every time.

[@rodolfovillanuevaperez1678]

Make Chevrolet Chevelle SS Express vs Ford Shelby GT 350 R!

[@landon_shonuff1181]

Yeah ain’t non of that stuff stick except the chassis, frame and maybe body

[@DooWops4U2]

Old School when a car profoundly showed character. Ans you can choose from thousands of color shades to paint it

[@mrrnagava5240]

wow

[@kingpanther9198]

As much as I love dodge I’m thinking about purchasing a 5.0 mustang or a cheap gt350

[@kccokilla8374]

ford better all the way around

[@keithcrabtree4224]

I’m always voting for the out cars and the new cars win

[@elliottyoung4143]

Look at the umbrella in the stands 3:19 into the video

[@scottyd0530]

That GT500 is freaking sexy as shit 😍😍🔥🔥🔥

[@rogeliorodriguez2319]

And slow

[@drivescene6747]

@@rogeliorodriguez2319 it’s really not. It would’ve been way quicker if it was in slicks like the old school muscle cars in this video

[@youkindacute6898]

@@rogeliorodriguez2319 The driver took off real late

[@sharitcuello5026]

Aunque todos sabemos de qué las marcas Amc , Pontiac , Mercury , Plymouth y Chrysler desaparecieron Bro

[@thebigmon]

These old school muscle cars are old in chassis only. These cars did not come off the line with ECM's and disk brakes.

[@bassheadspeakerreviews7710]

3:26 this race is so inaccurate

[@juliobordon6278]

Vamos la chevy!!!

[@darksnow8820]

tell me something, doesnt the airflow damage the engineblock and stuff if the hood is removed?

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYusloKFlKh9rbc

[@supersandwich8967]

Not necessarily cause your car regulates the amount of fuel per air that is going inside the engine but i wouldn't recommend doing it constantly

[@Jajuansimon6285]

Is that last one a chevelle or a nova

[@lucius3345]

Nova

[@danielclark5170]

If the old school cars had modern 6-8 speed transmissions and Holley efi they would be much better.

[@gagehandy9005]

Imagine spending 45-55k for a scat back just to run a 13.3

[@josephupholstery1416]

Right that's dumb

[@gangstakoolaidman3811]

It’s expensive but 13s are good

[@kccokilla8374]

@@gangstakoolaidman3811 how is 13's good for 45k when a 35k ford flex ecoboost can run faster with a v6 and weigh more for less?

[@shinoda97]

Toretto car's 👌🏻

[@bosco5996]

2:07 mustang driver was asleep lol

[@lawsonransom8318]

I'm an old school guy but aren't they putting old school drag racing cars against modern day street vehicles?

[@mercedesmers2]

Why you said vehicles?

[@lawsonransom8318]

@@mercedesmers2 I smack your face you question me again.

[@mercedesmers2]

@@lawsonransom8318 ok kid

[@paulbrandt703]

Yeh "the only smoking i do..." (wonder if smokers get the same kick out of it)

[@sharitcuello5026]

Vaya 2016 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 muscle VS 1970 Plymouth Duster 340

[@sharitcuello5026]

Bro aunque aqui en ningúna carrera tuya e visto un Amc muscle Bro

[@Relax-.-]

Holy!!! That Mustang got smoked‼️💨

[@joeishere500]

Which one,,,, HA HA HA

[@chadkent1241]

11.80....the driver can't drive as with a good driver they can do 10.60 stock @ 135-136

[@themarathoncontinues2289]

What mustang runs 10s stock? 🤣

[@danielr3933]

@@chadkent1241 What mustang does 10 stock? GTFO

[@scottyd0530]

Hmm, a stock Mustang on street tires, against a built drag car on slicks, with a wheelie bar and a parachute..... Gee, I wonder who will win...🙄

[@iggyfritz7150]

Old school for me any day because nobody can disable your car and you could work on them without having all kinds of high-tech tools and equipment

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYusloKFlKh9rbc

[@Aaafarqdf9167]

Dude these are literally drag cars with old school bodies on

[@CoyoteFTW]

Gt500 needs a new driver 11.8?!? Are you serious that car runs 10.5

[@taylorgtrotter]

Not in Denver it doesn’t. Density Altitude is 9000’ or better all summer long. Correct it to sea level and that 11.8 is roughly a second quicker at 10.9x. That guy races a lot in bracket classes so it’s not his first time down the track

[@taylorgtrotter]

@Alec The Car Guy for a stock (as far as I know) gt500, that’s solid numbers on the mountain in the middle of summer

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@taylorgtrotter - maybe not the best conditions but it still should be running better than an 11.8

[@taylorgtrotter]

@@CoyoteFTW again, not in Denver, and not when the DA is well over 9000’. That’s right on par with what a stock gt500 should run up here. Seen him run many times, and that’s consistent with what I’ve seen

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@taylorgtrotter - the rest of the field must be running some very pricey set ups then cause that car isn’t slap

[@MuiGohan]

This is the real fast and the furious

[@yohannesivewright5021]

In my opinion I think the old school muscle cars are actually called muscle cars

[@1axe1amp17]

Blue mustang got spanked.. lol

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYusloKFlKh9rbc

[@jasongooden917]

the police car practically did the whole race on 2 wheels

[@robertdavis2373]

Don't see how you're getting away with getting commercials but you def shouldn't be.

[@repoman-pubg4912]

I mean is it a bad thing or is maybe he just a lucky KZbin channel that hasn’t yet had to succumb to the enforcement of youtubes money regulations

[@funnygamer.692]

You mean those ads youtube shoves down everyone's throats on every video no matter the runtime in wich the creator gets absolutely no money and gets blamed on by their viewers for?

[@repoman-pubg4912]

@@funnygamer.692 lol right

[@stevebates4297]

Northing revs like a big block Chevy :)

[@kasaeuberlichproduction5981]

I love HP and fast cars are everything to me. But... Did the muscle car world become a tad bit jaded when the hellcat, demon, scat pack and other feces sounding trim levels became avaliable? Spirit of a muscle car is built, not bought. Still want one tho 😁

[@brxnqt]

The only thing old school in those cars are the chassis

[@davesracingchannel9261]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYusloKFlKh9rbc

[@johntraylor7691]

old school is the boss