Oden Stats & Best Class Setups! | Modern Warfare Gun Guide #12

[@extralargemcfries9891]

The sound of the oden immediately makes you the alpha on the battlefield

[@burb3ryy]

Lmao virgin m4 vs. chad oden

[@ya_boi_zach5140]

Just the NAME makes you alpha on the battlefield

[@bobdarrick2628]

@@burb3ryyvirgin before marriage is good

[@antonifugueroa681]

Oden is always a gamble with me. Either i get insane kills with it or the enemy moves and dodges every bullet. Its a weird gun for me

[@erfanesmaili12]

Same here

[@sytheopath1241]

Its an aim thing. If youre on point enemies drop. If u miss just one bullet youre dead. I know it sounds bad but definitely just try stocking up on recoil control. I swear I use both the colossal supressor and the first barrel that hurts your ads and movement but it turns the oden into a laser and kills in less bullets than all the other lmgs. When I started running it like that i noticed how conistent it felt for me. Plus I dont run and gun with it. I usually preaim anyway. And I put a holo on it as well. And its a beast

[@ExOTiC1234]

Its very reliant on connection because it shoots so slow.

[@sytheopath1241]

@@ExOTiC1234 hahaha foreal.

[@m.r.2718]

Agree 100%

[@armandorubio456]

The first few levels of this gun is brutal...

[@apraetorian9986]

You think so ? You get the solozero mini reflex very early which is nice if you can’t stand the iron sights like me , and some recoil reducing attachments pretty early as well.

[@Spladoinkal]

yeah, was pretty rough without attachments

[@sunnybiswas5249]

my first game with this gun i managed to land an easy lobby and it was the double xp weekend.... first gold gun for me lmao

[@dillonc7955]

One tip I have is to play gunfight from time to time. A lot of the weapons are randomized, so you can get the early attachments relatively quickly for guns you think you'll never use.

[@wayne980206]

Just got gold Oden, can confirm no attachment challenge is hell

[@iandavidvillaloboswong5180]

Testing and statistics: This weapon is a 2 shot kill. Me: *Gets over 4 hitmarkers with it* Nice

[@rhyspalmer58]

Yh I feel like I'm using way more bullets than necessary

[@jeremymcadam7400]

pfft, i got 11 hitmarkers with the m13 once

[@iandavidvillaloboswong5180]

@@jeremymcadam7400 I found an afk once and got 10 headshot hitmarkers with the m13. Stopped using it that same game. I think it was over 10 but cant remember for sure

[@billrich9722]

Get good.

[@ethandonnelly1973]

@@iandavidvillaloboswong5180 10 hitmarkers to the head point blank or at a large distance? No offence but even before the buff to it, the M13 was an absolute monster of a gun if you got even one headshot against someone. Its rate of fire and lack of recoil made up for the lack of damage it had. Literally just hot their head and then pull down into center of mass and it shreds everyone.

[@Jerry-li8hs]

Love the Oden. Recently got platinum AR’s and the Oden was hands down my favorite AR to use

[@irish7611]

Agreed .... stat wise, hard to compete but the rounds this gun is shelling out feel great so the “experience “ is worth it for me buttttt I also only have a .79 KD so I’m not up there for player of the year lol.

[@emwols]

I got Damascus, Oden was my favorite fun to use of all of them as well. This gun has a better K/D for me than the M4, only being beaten by the AK (which was my second favorite gun to use)

[@Kaiokendrew]

@@emwols Congrats on the Damascus grind bro. I gotta agree that the AK is great fun to use. After I finish my SMGs, I'm getting down to the SCAR and Oden soon.

[@midni8htassassin606]

What class setup did you use if you dont mind me asking?

[@dillonc7955]

I like the Oden since its probably the most unique AR in the game. You can dominate most ranges with it as long as you're landing your shots, albeit it being a slow firing gun.

[@nanonkay5669]

I think the Oden, once you havs someone in your crosshair, considering your aim is good and you are used to the recoil, it's game over for the opponent. But if the opponent spots you milliseconds before you do, it's game over for you

[@mercilessforever]

Once u have someone in ur crosshairs with any gun it’s usually lights out. As long as ur centered and scope to chest and walk straight up to head

[@bobdarrick2628]

This game was amazing. Oden I didn’t use that much or like much compared to most other ARs, but it’s cool.

[@bobdarrick2628]

@@mercilessforeverI preferred the FAL, As Val and an-94 over the Oden

[@burb3ryy]

The Oden is what the SA87 should have been.

[@ChefboiRT59]

I think they’re pretty similar. I like them both a lot

[@khakipeach2128]

nah it’s what the scar should’ve been

[@v12ts.gaming]

You do know they both are different class of weapons, right? The Oden (ShAK-12) is chambered in 12.7x55mm that is based on a *.338 Lapua* casing, so it's essentially a battle rifle with a hard hitting damage. The SA87 (L86 LSW) On the other hand is chambered in a typical 5.56x45mm NATO, so 5.56 is literally nothing compared to 12.7...

[@leothehuman_9476]

@@v12ts.gaming We do not care. We don't want to kill people or any living being, we are playing videogames.

[@v12ts.gaming]

@@leothehuman_9476 you cared enough to respond 💀

[@danielfraser9538]

11:08 is where the setup still images are

[@mr.albro14yearsago11]

Neon Mercury Thank you

[@JustAnotherNamelessGuy]

thanks dude for saving me time from this fucken nerd

[@jdrmurphy4141]

@@JustAnotherNamelessGuy hey!

[@kingstonesters3444]

thank you kind sir

[@lenardlaki1649]

@@JustAnotherNamelessGuy bro what the fuck, he is doing hard work with this gun guides so you can just copy and paste it. Now go back to your cave, fucking troll

[@eagleclan6798]

Used the crap out of the oden when I first started playing, so it has a special place in my heart

[@bgrrv3017]

Same

[@Latinblood59]

Same! Was my first gold gun

[@bfgsnyky2307]

@@Latinblood59 same dude

[@hoodiewaffles]

You forgot to mention that the Oden's burst attachment makes it a 2 round burst.

[@ritathecat6962]

I dont understand that attachment because it fires so slow that you can make it any kind of burst or single shot you want with proper trigger control.

[@hoodiewaffles]

@@ritathecat6962 If you dont have a fast trigger finger are dislike try harding then it's fun to use

[@BlackOctoberFox]

@@ritathecat6962 The idea is you put on the colossus suppressor, a scope and the 2 round burst. It turns the gun into a Bullpup marksman rifle with next to no recoil. 1 burst kill to the upper chest. The time between bursts is just long enough for the gun to re-centre. It's really interesting to use.

[@-Arv]

@@BlackOctoberFox im gonna try this, have you?

[@skeleton1765]

@@-Arv I have to disagree. A magazine of practice and you can get 2 shot bursts from full auto. Use that attachment somewhere else.

[@SeeingSebastian]

The Oden was my first full-time favourite, before my Bizon run n gun fun phase. It's an absolute monster for anti sniper play. It excels at mid to long range combat with some pretty good setups for CQC. Tap fire is the way to go.

[@bobdarrick2628]

I think it was worse than the FAL but it’s an interesting weapon. It’s good in its own way but less versatile than most other guns and I think the AS VAL & FAL do better than the Oden.

[@Cruzer91]

Finally! I've been waiting for this video forever! Glad to see it's just as much of a beast as I thought 😘

[@irish7611]

Me too, broke my heart when Driftr had mentioned the Stippled grip tape did nothing lol. Glad to hear I get a frame back

[@Spladoinkal]

@@irish7611 There's no way that could be true anyways. I've run with and without the stippled and always a noticeable difference even though I never measured exactly how much.

[@TV-rl8mr]

Finally! Thanks man! I’m sure I speak for most of us when I say we love your solid work & insight. Much appreciated.

[@Blair.christine]

Oden is my favorite. It’s also the first gun I got gold. Always my go too when I’m not working on another gun

[@ZayToldMe29]

Hey man I’m about to start the camo grind. How slow is the Oden? Ace: Yes

[@12345skaterguy]

VLK optic works well in middle-long range gunfights in my opinion. Definitely an underrated optic to use if you’re looking for something new.

[@Ryan-iy5xo]

Love using the 3x on this gun, it's a beast, better than that fal and other options for imo and just run overkill with a shotgun or smg and you're set

[@woofaki5550]

Its really bad for close fights tho....Im using mini reflex instead.

[@Ryan-iy5xo]

@@woofaki5550 I have 2 oden classes lol, one built for nothing but speed and the other for range and it slaps both ways ngl, using the fast run and gun class is also insane in search

[@woofaki5550]

@@Ryan-iy5xo What are you using for the speed one?

[@patsca_]

when your gameplay is on point the oden is absolutely FILTHY. i love it

[@EvaWenborn96]

I really really like the gun a lot. I am very new at shooters so I was a bit struggling with confrontations, though my aim seemed to be very precise! So once I put my hands on the Oden, I really, litteraly, went from KD 0.24 to 0.9 because of this gun! It suits with how I play and if you are good at aiming and predicting where your enemies will appear, def worth trying it out! Great video by the way, it taught me new things as well :)

[@cua2279]

:)

[@HamburgerMolester]

I just started leveling this weapon on shipment. It was surprisingly effective even with the default 20 round mag. Puts ppl down quickly and reliably in that chaotic mess.

[@ironraccoon3536]

This gun is what the SCAR 17 should have been, rather than just being an AK-47 despite chambering a completely different round.

[@michaelconner9796]

I agree, if you look at real world balistics... Yeah the bullet is thiccc but it is moving so slow that it loses a ton of energy. The hottest load hits 2439 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. M118lr (todays 7.62 nato) is at 2626. Since it is travelling faster, .308 carries the energy significantly further as well. While it's a really cool subsonic round that thumps super hard, if you look at the math behind it and not Russian propaganda, 12.7x55 is mediocre at best, much like .50 beowulf or .468 Socom.

[@ironraccoon3536]

@@michaelconner9796 Meanwhile, 7.62x39mm set to M43 specifications hits with about 1,607 ft/lbs of energy, and that's assuming perfect ballistics, as 7.62x39mm FMJ is prone to over penetration and generally unfavourable wounding characteristics, which means that in some situations 5.56 can hit harder out of a 14.5" barrel, yet here it's far exceeding the damage of anything else in the game that's chambered in 5.56, though considering the MP5 hits twice as hard at close range as the M13, I don't think Infinity Ward particularly cared about realistic ballistics.

[@Nathanealification]

Wow. That was fun to read. You guys know your stuff

[@realsinceday1632]

The scar is the most disappointing gun in this COD I hate it never use it

[@CarmenFiala]

@@realsinceday1632 Uzi says hi

[@rootbeerguy690]

I will say that, while this is true on every weapon, this thing is incredibly accurate when mounted, which is fitting considering this weapon is not completely meant for aggressive play

[@billrich9722]

It is designed as a CQB breaching weapon by the Russians. If that isn’t aggressive, then I don’t know what is.

[@rootbeerguy690]

I'm only referring to the in-game gun, which, while it can be built for an aggressive style, is more oriented for long range and a more passive kind of playstyle. I'm not making any connection to the real life version.

[@ethandonnelly1973]

@@rootbeerguy690 Eh, he still has a point. Walking up to a door and quietly opening it with this thing is pretty funny lmao

[@dahveedb7550]

It’s pretty agressive I’ve been getting 30+ kills with it and people get soo mad

[@N-GinAndTonicTM]

I find playing aggressively wins you more gunfights than the community would have you believe. Especially with such a camp-heavy title. They're not expecting someone to be pushing hard and fast at them; not giving them a moment to breathe. I can easily do agressive play with the ODEN, you just need to take it's weaknesses and strengths into consideration. Heavy recoil? Get up close and personal as soon as possible. Mount if need be. Slow firing? Go for torso/upper chest shots. Small magazine? Rely on the 2 - 3 shot kill potential as often as possible. The ODEN is very akin to the Black Ops 3's Gorgon and the Mw3 PM9. All three of them are viciously dangerous guns in the right hands.

[@NotKenBlock94]

This is probably one of my favorite guns to use as it's extremely versatile for what it is. It's hilarious to use it as a sniper in ground war

[@blightpatterson126]

Been trying to make an oden class for the longest this eas just what I needed thank you Ace

[@PembletonWood]

Your weapon stat and breakdown videos are top notch. Easily the best and most detailed source for information on these weapons. Thank you for your time and effort on these.

[@doctordeath9336]

Love the video Ace, however me personally I like it better when you include the frames in parentheses on the stats with each attachment (like in previous videos)

[@seengh]

Yeah frame #s are greatly appreciated and make more sense than percentages.

[@Jonny_Jigsaw]

Ace’s favourite phrase: “They’ll have NO IDEA what hit them..!”

[@KingLewin]

This gun is a beast once you level it up, and when your not getting destroyed.

[@DrDoc-pw7eb]

Oden plus stopping power rounds is a 2 shot at any range and anywhere on the body, its fun

[@ethandonnelly1973]

@@NeightrixPrime Stopping power is basically ALWAYS one less bullet to kill, so stating it on every video is kinda pointless. If it takes two shots to kill, stopping power SHOULD make it a one tap inside the guns normal effective range. If it takes 3, it becomes 2.

[@UEGMEAT]

Oden is God tier in Warzone with that big ass suppressor and hybrid thermal

[@ArkansasArmory]

One video I would like to see is testing on all of the different operators. Are their hit boxes all the same? Is it based on a hit box or actual model geometry? Is there any advantage or disadvantage with the different models? What about finishing move times? Are they all the same? What are your thoughts?

[@Coffeeandacigarette]

Hit boxes are all the same. kzbin.info/www/bejne/imW0kmymaspqea8

[@jakestavinsky3480]

I do want to point out that finishing moves do matter: if your operator does the "kill" later in the finishing move and you get killed, the victim will survive. If its a quick one, you'll still secure the kill

[@RimaSuit]

Imo: Oden is sleeper OP. It's not suited for aggressive or solo weapon play tho. It's not an allrounder weapon. Get those range / recoil reduction attachments and it absolutely shreds at any range with basically a laser beam. ADS speed makes it somewhat unfit for solo weapon, so I use an SMG with Overkill for close quarters (amped perk, I switch for every corner depending on the expected distance). That being said, you give up quite a bit this way and it's not suited for all maps. I basically only use it for big maps like Arklov Peak or Grazna Raid since both range and CQC is present on those maps. When seen as an AR, it's kinda unforgiving despite its TTK. But if you think of the Oden as a kinda auto-sniper, it's really forgiving considering the extreme range. In any case, one of my favorite weapons on certain maps.

[@jollygreenfox1309]

I love using the Oden in Ground war with the 810mm Barrel, Colossus Suppressor, Thermal Hybrid, Oden Ultralight Hollow, and Ranger Foregrip. It's great for counter sniping people off of the cranes and B building in the Port of Verdansk.

[@Murillo-214]

The Oden hip fire kill camos were extremely frustrating

[@ethandonnelly1973]

I dont use the Oden very much but its hipfire seemed pretty good to me. I only ever ADS when I need to (A habit from playing Titanfall 2) and I'll hipfire in close to mid range alot, and the oden definitely had good hipfire last time I used it and I dont think I even had a laser on it. Only real issue is that slower fore rate guns are never as good at hipfire as higher fire rate ones. Thats just a matter of more bullets equals more chances to hit, but the high damage kinda cancels out that aspect alot.

[@PLr1c3r]

Yes it seems to have the ability to dance around any moving targets lol. Even worse if you decide to jump or dodge. But when it does work (for the situation) my god is it a beast. Def love hate relationship type of gun.

[@cherrypoptart2001]

Hardcore shipment

[@seann2769]

DyingStar 117 hardcore shipment is the answer to everything

[@MCole713]

Green Laser and Merc Foregrip

[@readmychannelbannerforfree3457]

1:38 This is why you're my favorite youtuber you make amazing content for us every day

[@k__404_]

hi ace for your next gun guides can you include the damage profile with stopping power ammo pleas?

[@ThatOneGuyYMK]

I'm pretty sure it's a straight 2x Multiplier across the board for all weapons.

[@patrickmurphy8008]

Really x2? That's a one shot kill for oden which would be mind boggling

[@ThatOneGuyYMK]

@@patrickmurphy8008 Yep, as long as it's in the upper torso area. Lower torso would be 96 damage.

[@midnightlemon4255]

@@ThatOneGuyYMK Can't quite be that, because then all of the marksmen rifles would 1-shot all the time with stopping power, and they don't.

[@WokeFatti]

I think we just need a video going over stopping power as a whole

[@kadebass6187]

With your long range set up I recommend you use holographic (with a blue dot if possible as that is very recommended) as it provides a higher zoom (somewhere within 1.5x and 2.0x zoom) than the reflex optics. Also has a two shot burst mode which allows for those quick two shot kills (if you can hit them that is) and is unique for long range

[@bluesolace9459]

Can we get a guide on the FAL? Personally I freaking love this gun and would love to hear your thoughts on it

[@Murillo-214]

Right as I was reading this comment, Driftor uploaded an FAL review

[@bluesolace9459]

@@Murillo-214 oh, good to know! I don't usually watch Driftor anymore but I'll be sure to check it out, thanks!

[@glorbosbiggerfan9401]

I actually find the odens recoil extremely easy to control, because it fires slow enough you get the chance to reposition the gun between shots.

[@nukalegend]

I once didn't like using this gun. Then a anime waifu skin dropped, now it's the only gun I use

[@strykerking]

How do I acquire this anime waifu skin?

[@tmx8686]

@@strykerking it appears in the store

[@Donnyf3841]

Gay

[@johnapple6646]

Weeeeb

[@spi1141]

This rifle clears a long range crowd & I love it. I use the 810 mm bbl & colossus suppressor along w thermal for counter sniper. Merc grip helps for close sudden encounters.

[@kynriv101]

That's the build I use for Warzone. Drops people quicker than DJ Mustard beats.

[@CynicalSnowflake]

Noob question: do the ranges stack when you use the Colossus suppressor and a barrel attachment?

[@ZK-nb3cq]

yes but it won't be an exact increase of the two combined. It might have diminishing returns or something.

[@YTKensei]

Yes! Using the longest barrel on top of the Colossus Suppressor will net you over a 100 meter two-shot kill range.

[@billyhaigh9274]

I use it.... As a sniper

[@eldonhill4840]

@@YTKensei no they won't

[@drax300orion3]

@@CynicalSnowflake it will check out Driftors video on the oden its range is 100m with the Colossus suppressor and the 820 barrel

[@LET4M4RU]

Other ARs: Spray and pray Oden: *S L O W*

[@SethKolbePrefect]

Yeah but it's ttk and damage per bullet are insane. Its a bit more like a marksman than an ar

[@LET4M4RU]

@@SethKolbePrefect As MR it's ok I guess, but as an AR it's horrendous. It handles like an Lmg that forgot to have the ammo belt.

[@SethKolbePrefect]

@@LET4M4RU well if you're comparing it to an m4 yeah i suppose but this thing will outgun most ars. Unless you're missing shots.

[@LET4M4RU]

@@SethKolbePrefect I mean, yeah probably, but so will the SCAR with a way more controllable recoil and handling. But there's one for each taste, just because I dislike this gun doesnt mean it's bad, I just don't like it. If you enjoy using it, knock yourself out thats the most important thing

[@thomast.5073]

One of my favorite attachments to this is smoke grenade under barrel and thermal scope

[@kevindiossi]

For me, I've found the Colossus Suppressor and then almost all ADS attachments have turned it into one of my favorite weapons to use.

[@ethandonnelly1973]

When I eventually get back to it I'll probably work on getting the sniper scope and then speed up its ADS time a bit. Might not be the best gun set up but its alot of fun to make underpowered conversions

[@Meiy-10]

That was an amazing review. Thanks a lot. I got this Kawai "notice me" skin and wanted to give the Oden a try. I really think you are helping the community by explaining all the different mechanics of the game. So for instance if I get one shot killed by an Oden I can use my brain and understand why it happened instead of be a hater lol. Your knowledge is definitely spreading so much love. Thank you again for your time and efforts.

[@whitdog_5640]

To Anyone watching In 2022, do not use the commando foregrip on this gun! It is bugged and doesn’t help in any way. If you were going to use a commando instead of a vertical grip, you don’t need help with the recoil and you’d be better off using the attachment point for something else. My recommended loadout for warzone is: 810mm Barrel, Colossus supressor, Tac laser, 30 round mags, Canted hybrid optic (it has double the horizontal control of the VLK) and to be extra sweaty use the “apotheosis” reticle.

[@jdgames3725]

Love this gun I’m almost close to getting gold on this bad boy

[@NoxiousDirector]

I really hate it tbf. Last gun I need to get gold for plat AR's. But man.. its not my thing. I can get like 50 kills with it at shoothouse.. but it feels so bad imo

[@NoxiousDirector]

I didnt like the scar either, I think i prefer fast shooting weapons

[@firedell1031]

My favorite thing to do with this gun is the longest barrel, colossus suppressor, vlk scope, ranger foregrip, and either the 30 round mag, or fmj. Just sit back and shoot anything you can see.

[@blankshell]

Thanks for including the Hardcore stats/distance. Us Hardcore players never get any love.

[@MyWORDisntGospel]

Amen

[@moses7778]

blankshell Oden has been what’s made me amazing at HC. It’s a full auto 1 shot kill sniper at any range... I know the AK is as well, but I just feel so much more accurate with the Oden, not sure why.

[@mr.society9320]

The Oden is wildly underrated in my opinion. It's my weapon of choice. My preferred way of running the Oden is Compensator, 25rd mags, stippled grip, Commando Foregrip, and Sleight of hand.

[@mr.society9320]

I used the scar in place of the oden until I realized how inferior it was compared to, say the Oden or AK.

[@dogboy0912]

It's extremely powerful, but it is fairly unforgiving at closer ranges where the bullet stream guns like the m4 and mp7s can get you. It definitely requires changes playstyle just a little bit if you're used to faster sprint out and ads guns. For Ground war it's typically my rifle of choice.

[@kab1r]

Pure skill based gun. All depends how accurate your burst shots are. I use the longest barrel with merc grip for recoil control.

[@689twin]

Got on really well with this gun, really good with long lines of sight on vacant.

[@Atomalone83]

I've been using this gem in warzone solos. Once you get recoil down, no chance. Might even try it in squads

[@White_Raven_Films]

Im not a cod player but this mw seemd cool to me so I bought it. I played with m4 and I sucked finally I switched to the Odin and now I can really pull out some frags in this game and no I don't camp xd I'm just a more casual player and I just find this weapon fit my game style a lot! Ps. I hate f. snipers!😅

[@the.motivation.centre]

Full Thrust you are literally me

[@pluto3194]

I hate snipers because when I use them it feels like the gun ways 3000 pounds, and takes 3 months to ADS and my enemies seem to be using a sniper shaped pistol that 1 hits

[@MKida]

Oden is really good I love it

[@madlycrash11]

Your first mistake was trying to use that cancerous M4

[@White_Raven_Films]

@@madlycrash11 m4 and ak are solid rifles thats what everyune knows and tries here its a bit different

[@MIsterioStudios]

The Black Asp blueprint has excellent iron sights and can help free up an attachment slot. Thanks for the tips about the Stopping Power rounds with this, I didn’t think about it until now- that makes this thing a beast in CQC maps.

[@AK-tu7ng]

BEST ODEN CLASS SETUP: BLUEPRINT=BLACK ASH, ATTACHMENTS= COLOSSUS SUPPRESSOR, 810 BARREL, TAC LASER, 30 ROUND MAG, RANGER GRIP, NO RECOIL!!!! This blueprint has the different iron sight then base ODEN more like the GRAU making it easier to hit long shots. TRY IT OUT LET ME KNOW! (if you dont like the iron sights switch the ranger grip or tac laser for the VLK 3.0 Optic)

[@devilish2345]

It is pretty funny how this gun actually ended up in the assault rifle class it is and assault rifle by definition however it is loaded quite literally in real life with light armor piercing rounds like light armor tanks vehicles etc this thing means business! It doesn't just leave holes in someone it leaves gaping cavities!

[@patlikespina]

I recommend using the semi auto mode for this gun. It's the only gun I'm game that I've found works nicer that way. Also you can put a sniper scope on it and it isnt a bad sniper.

[@crappymeal]

They aint got a clue about this

[@mikeboy337]

It's the vks with a sniper scope, collossol suppressor and the bipod lol

[@mikeboy337]

m14, dragunov, kar98

[@otterlystrange2963]

You only listed one sniper rifle.

[@Atlas_Found]

easily the best cod channel

[@kylejohnson5179]

I want to see a gun guide for the AX-50.

[@adri8382]

I can tell u some info i got in private matches. It has 65m range (92m with largest barrel). After this range it only 1 shot kill in the head and neck. The time between shots is 1.55 seconds. The HDR has 100m range (130m with long barrel)

[@wiseone2333]

Adri so. Which is better the mx50 or the HDR?

[@ese3v]

Kyle Johnson just go all the way on ads attachments and focus perk

[@keithhunchuk3049]

@@wiseone2333 HDR is soooooo much better at range. But it shoots slower.

[@adri8382]

@@wiseone2333 Ax50 is better because it has better default scope and firerate but u must equip longest barrel to kill at long range. Best ax50 set up: longest barrel+all ads attachments (the long barrel decrease the ads speed but still 1 frame faster than the HDR if u try to quickscope)

[@Ryan-iy5xo]

Oden is my baby, love it

[@Plaz1398]

I really like using this gun more like a dmr since it has a really good ttk

[@lilleroy2194]

What's your class setup?

[@Plaz1398]

Lil Leroy I play mainly GW basically I’m using Ace’s 2nd setup but I’m using the longest barrel with the colossus and anything that helps with recoil. The only time I use it in full auto is when I’m moving otherwise I’m using it semi-auto.

[@richardh1923]

i love the oden with the colossal suppressor, the 810 barrel, tac laser, the gi mini reflex and 30 round mag. Im loving this set up, yes its a bit slow on the draw, but when it hits oh man, it hits pretty good

[@komraderymcdermott5903]

MG34? It’s a really weird gun that I wanna learn more about

[@Jackal19x]

New subscriber here, love your content man it's great to see real analytics applied to the ins and outs of this game.

[@brettpearce8843]

Can you do the FAL and maybe a hc variation because I don't play core except in ground war.

[@Courier6th]

Oden is my favorite gun because it hits harder than a semi truck and feel right when you hold that gun

[@darthjarjar5309]

This is my fav AR when maxed out. Initially stock or barely with any attachments it is a pain to use because the recoil, ammo and ADS are so bad, bad after maxing it out it is like a laser gun, drops enemies within seconds. I used the Colossus suppressor, added the 30 round mag and used the other slots for decreasing recoil and ADS. Despite that the only issue I still have is the ADS speeds, maybe if I would have kept the stock mags I could have used a different attachment to increase ADS speeds, but overall, this is my fav gun for AR and beyond ranges. The other day someone was camping on one of those spectator boxes on Atlas Super store and I was able to kill him from the other end of the store (the other spectator box on the opposite end of the map) within seconds.

[@Spladoinkal]

Yaaay! Thank you for doing a video on this gun! I like to hang back and do a longer range stealth playstyle, so it's perfect for me, then switch over to either an mp5 or modified m4a1 when doing the Shoot the Ship playlist or something like it.

[@ftfxhailstorm2916]

Could you go over how stopping power affects all the guns from now on?

[@ethandonnelly1973]

One less bullet to kill is a general rule. Its a bit buggu and shit though so it might not always apply

[@kevincao9275]

It would be nice if you had provided a range map for the 420mm barrel. I found that sometimes on range reduction attachments you haven’t included visual comparisons on your videos. I’ve very much appreciated your Gun Guide series and have been eagerly awaiting this one, so I hope you read this and take it into consideration!

[@iesdise]

I subbed when you made Apex videos. I'm watching almost every video since then and I don't even play COD. xD I really enjoy those, nice job!

[@TheXclusiveAce]

Hahaha that's dedication! I appreciate the support!

[@iesdise]

@@TheXclusiveAce I mean if I upgrade my 1050TI someday and decide to buy this game I will already know most of the weapons and the attachments for them xD

[@v12ts.gaming]

We actually got the Oden (ShAK-12) in COD Mobile, and its stats are similar to MW2019 as expected. Btw, in CODM, the Oden also have 2 additional types of 12.7x55 ammo in which MW2019 didn't have, namely the Subsonic rounds (also known as TP bullets), and hence the name, it fires heavier subsonic bullets that increases range but decreases velocity (in which it's illogical irl), and Duplex bullets (also known as DP Bullets), in which you have one extra bullet enclosed in a casing behind the first bullet, so you essentially shoot two bullets in one trigger pull. I actually used the Duplex rounds for close quarters use, in which you'll have a bigger hit probability in close range, and you still have a tight spread whenever you ADS in farther ranges.

[@MyWORDisntGospel]

Best way to work on Odin camos. Hardcore / switch to single shot This is a monster in HC modes on single shot.

[@jonathaningravalle7280]

Quick summary: the Oden is strong and a very good TTK if you hit the upper chest multipliers. Stopping power rounds get a one shot kill in core to the upper chest at a decent range. However, it has low ammo, slow reload time, slow ADS, and high recoil. So use compensator and/or grips for more accuracy and stippled grip tape for better ADS/sprintout. Hey Ace, can you do the RAM 7 next?? I wanna see what my class looks like compared to yours.

[@tahmidulamin8350]

In HC it's pretty much a full auto sniper rifle!

[@Kaiokendrew]

I really enjoy the SCAR and EBR-14 for that role as well

[@mig1nc]

So translating the ms into frames (16.666 or 17ms per frame) the base gun is ~22 frames +2 for 810mm barrel and +3 for Colossus.

[@1vviolet]

I SWEAR they have nerfed this gun in recent weeks the Colossal suppressor wasn’t always so slow :( it’s really upsetting I hope I’m not the only one that’s noticed

[@r3mxd]

good the wep is broken as it is.

[@RisenRen]

r3mxd have you seen the M4?

[@Trial4RTC]

@@r3mxd not really. Oden is powerful but slow af, it's fairly balanced.

[@404nobrakes]

RiseandShine it’s also completely useless when hip firing. Good luck if someone runs up on you. Still my favorite gun for “tAcTiCal” playstyle.

[@ethandonnelly1973]

@@404nobrakes I have zero issues hipfiring the ODEN.

[@MotorHolmes]

I’ve been playing with this a ton lately. The rate of fire sucks but I still feel I’ve more effective with it that lots of the other assault rifles.

[@eapirir45]

This gun is highly underrated. Just completed gold camo's on all ARs I'm pulling 2.8 KD with it while the rest is at or below 2. The hip fire and long range engagements are made easy.

[@kirilivanov7940]

The ultimate setup for me - Colosus Supp, Biggest barrel and Merc foregrip. Rest is flavoring. I like the full ammo perk and the x3.5 scope. Up close - you can hip fire most people, because aiming down is so slow, but you can also kill ppl mid to VERY high ranges super easy in full auto. It is snipers' nightmare

[@alexanderkolb441]

Love the Oden. Perfect for old men like me. lol

[@thermionicemission6355]

It's really funny how it handles in game, complete opposite of reality. In real life it is literally a super-high "stopping power" CQB weapon, and handling with it is better than a lot of ARs probably, it is a bullpup after all.

[@fredriklarsson1416]

Mounting this one is a beast, almost no recoil and insane TTK

[@lalotime]

The sound, the animation, the sights, it's truly the best weapon in the game. Along side the Uzi. I piss off so many people

[@godifide8283]

I’ve never felt so drained while going for camos in call of duty...

[@ethandonnelly1973]

How come? I havent encountered any frustrating ones so far.

[@alexandermaricle6955]

Riot shield

[@bluntes]

@@ethandonnelly1973 ion think it's the guns, it's the amount of time it takes just to get one gold. Other cods and mw was faster but I feel like it takes months to do one gub

[@ethandonnelly1973]

@@bluntes In MW? I personally don't think so myself, I mean, I've watched my old man get 3 guns to gold in the past week, he's not exactly a godly player, but he apparently decided he wants to get gold on a bunch of his guns so he did Bizon, MP7 and the AK I believe and that's literally just from playing for a few hours a night, and not even every night of the last week. He never really used anything but the Kilo, which is why he has it at obsidian but he's going through these guns pretty damn fast And me personally I've never had an issue with getting weapons to gold. Levelling them up to unlock the challenges is a bit slow, sure, though if I want to level a gun I just put a weapon xp token on and play shipment, you'll jump like ten levels a match at times. The actual challenges are easy to do so Idk, I've never felt like they were that bad in MW.

[@ethandonnelly1973]

In CW, different story because half the guns in that game are absolutely fucking garbage and getting kills, never mind multikills with them in that game is a massive pain in the ass, but most of MWs guns are always usable so I just never had a problem, though I also don't really try for gold because of them being pretty easy. Older games had more difficult camo challenges, so gold was a sign of skill, nowadays it's more to do with just how much time you've dumped into the game more than anything so they don't interest me. And yes the knife and riot shield is probably the hardest ones to do but the rest, eh

[@richardwahl8706]

I just recently tried to grind up this gun to unlock all the attachments. I feel like it has potential as a medium-long range assault rifle in Warzone. It’s pretty nasty in multiplayer though.

[@EleventyTwo]

It looks ao cool with short barrel and big suppressor

[@Hartbreak1]

The Oden is a beast if you play to its strengths and a slog if you play outside that. It’s a gun meant for the midrange and near long range. At short ranges enemies will beat your ADS time and at at far long range any weapon with better recoil or snipers will beat you. This weapon works best for people that play more methodical and don’t rush, though it won’t be much help to campers either, if someone knows where you are they’ll most likely be able to out gun you. Move carefully and aim to flank and ambush enemies, you’ll melt enemies before they know what hit them. This weapon is actually one of my best K/D weapons.

[@DoneDragon1]

This gun is best treated like a dmr

[@Mr.deacle]

Strangely, before the blanket nerf on all assault rifle hip fire stats, I found this thing to be a hip fire machine. Similar experience with the FAL, and honestly that one still works really well hip firing if you build it accordingly.

[@medobrundo421]

Please do RAM-7 next timee!!!

[@alexanderreyes3356]

Drift0r already covered it.

[@medobrundo421]

@@alexanderreyes3356 yeah so? I care what Ace says

[@alexanderreyes3356]

@@medobrundo421 They are splitting the work. So if one already did that, the other won't.

[@Enzoxvx]

That's not a given. Ace did a video on the AK too.

[@khanbw]

@@alexanderreyes3356 They both did vids on the PKM, the MP7, the PP Bison, and the AK47....

[@Antonio-yq8uo]

Recoil control is what it says it makes it easier for YOU to CONTROL the shots you fire. Great video BTW

[@TheXclusiveAce]

No. It's a reduction to the vertical recoil. Stabilization reduces the side to side bounce of the recoil. Your inputs are irrelevant

[@Daniel-ky6rk]

In Germany we call this weapon the (H)oden which means testical in German

[@Warmerstrumpf]

Wer sagt das bitte?

[@ynotmcduck]

😂 that’s what I’m calling this gun from now on

[@SKLLZTHATKILLZ]

I love the Oden. Been playing pretty aggressive using: compensator, merc grip, stippled grip, ext mag, optic When doing hipfire challenges I swapped the optic for 5w laser and it was melting with hip fire! Super fun class

[@wayne980206]

It's so good at just running around and Barrell stuffing

[@wayne980206]

Just got gold and the no attachment challenge is a serious grind tho

[@irish7611]

PERFECT - thanks for the Stippled grip update!!!! Love this gun for my play style ... when I mix in the Double time perk, and aim quick then I can complete but any gun battle where ADS is needed then I’m melted lol but I’ll take my chances. Thanks for this gun guide, answered some very important questions. Loved getting this thing gold ... and with the Anime it looks beautiful.

[@1htalp9]

VLK3.0x is the only sight in the game that reduces ADS time on this gun (it doesn't do it for any other). Stodeh runs it with the VLK, and the 810mm barrel, everything else pretty much the same. I find the VLK a great all around sight for mid-long distance.

[@Uenostation54]

13:43 RIP rando teammate

[@woofaki5550]

I saw that also,he killed his teammate with the opponents proximity mine lol

[@OlyMar83]

I use the ODEN as a marksman rifle. It’s a sniper rifle without the glint of a scope.

[@qjames0077]

Got the Waifu blueprint for this gun. Favorite to play with now.

[@Alejandro_87]

It really is a pretty dope camo. I'm satisfied with my purchase.

[@eugene12310mobile]

This weapon is like the quintessential Ground War weapon. You just do not care about the ADS speed and mobility with this. You just slap the most range giving attachments and a hybrid/4x optic on it and you can just sit or hold a flag all day and do some serious damage and counter snipe. Like max specced for range the Oden's 2 shot kill range stretches out to 110meters iirc which is insanely good for Ground war

[@404nobrakes]

Eugene Monotilla do the colossus and 810 range boosts stack? Or should I not use a long barrel with the colossus