Black Ops 6 has Map Based Laser Visibility?! | (Full Laser Breakdown)

[@Night5225]

Monkey’s paw: they patch the laser glitch but turns out it’s all supposed to be like Protocol.

[@RebelRising22]

That was my immediate thought, especially with how it seems that the devs/Activision definitely pay attention to Ace's videos. I hope they don't make all lasers on all maps visible from space after this. Still love Ace's breakdown of this

[@Commenter5651]

Yep, either that or they never fix the glitch at all. 50/50 chance on either one.

[@rock-steady-yeti]

100% what it thought right away.

[@NexSerenade]

This is total speculation on my part but I've had a random theory since the beta that Protocol was originally meant to be a night map but they changed it after the poor player response to Black Gold and, to a lesser extent, Pelayo's Lighthouse in MWII. So I wonder if the laser visibility could potentially be a carryover from an older, night based version of the map?

[@bs_blackscout]

Makes sense, otherwise why would the laser be so visible? (Bugged out I guess but who knows)

[@T8T-]

I could see that being the case, the interior lighting on protocol definitely feels like it could've been originally set up for a night map.

[@99dfresh]

There was originally a dark texture glitch around the outside of the map that was fixed months in to release. Could support the theory

[@Greendawn-di3dl]

The dark souls 2 issue. Game was meant to be pitch black but they lightened it and handicapped the lighting mechanics which made half the game feel real weird.

[@Redmont_]

i guess cod players dont like night maps pro tip: open your eyes.

[@bushmonster1702]

Another bug to throw on the pile. Activision should try skill based hiring.

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

Came here just to say this. It’s like no one play tested the game before release.

[@TheGreatChrisB]

They do, that's the problem. They're not just letting the best dominate, they're giving the noobs a chance too lol

[@bushmonster1702]

@@TheGreatChrisBthe tea lady is in charge of spawns.

[@Redmont_]

how about you test your skills in the nearest mcdonalds instead of wasting your time in nothing.

[@lolschrauber]

They 100% use AI to write most of the code. It explains the amount of bugs and why they can't fix them in a timely fashion.

[@myfriendben]

I swear the strelok was bugged early after the game’s release. I found myself consistently landing headshots and made the camo grind a breeze after I had unlocked it

[@ardeththewanderer5334]

Fun fact: Tac Stance spread is affected by hipfire spread. Outside of a few extra guns in Zombies, this info is really only useful for shotguns since the chokes are the only hipfire improving attachments that can be paired with Tac Stance

[@Turkx]

2:32 talking about visibility, that should be on the list too. Crouched in a corner and looked right at him but no type of name tag until after you’re dead.

[@ThiccAssRaccoon]

what else do you want? the dude is in a dark corner behind a door. do you want an outline on all players so you can see them?

[@OwenSpear-q5i]

Bro that just confirms it I feel like I die to people with no name tag at all SO MUCH I’m not tripping it is real

[@Turkx]

@ Since launch for me, I at least die guaranteed once per match to someone with no name tag at all. Doesn’t matter if they’re standing, crouched or prone.

[@TheMadCombat]

There is a way to tighten your Tac Laser spread, but only on shotguns. Use the muzzle that tightens your ADS spread, and your tac spread will tighten up. Its the most accurate way to use every shotgun.

[@Redmont_]

yeah but the maelstrom still sucks

[@parkouristbobbyd227]

Then you hit a guy center mass 3 times at 8m and he is not dead. The shotguns in this game SUCK! If you go in to the practice range, the dummy at 10m can some times take 8 (that's right, 8) shotgun shells to go down.

[@Redmont_]

@@parkouristbobbyd227 bad ping or you are using the maelstrom think about it again

[@AnEyeRacky]

Laser spread...good lord

[@dystopiawanderer]

This is odd to me. I've definitely had a bunch of moments where I could easily tell someone was aiming at a doorway for example, because there was a massive green laser. There were so many cases of enemies giving their position away that I don't use any laser, ever, aside from tac stance on shotguns because they're close range anyway.

[@iVickster]

Same. I've shot people through walls/fences because of this. I used the target laser on the snipers and have seen my laser clearly visible on enemy killcams, regardless of the map.

[@byOlympus]

I was playing a game on Hideout and I could see perfectly the enemies' laser all over the map. And they were not even in dark areas. They were using the green one on a sniper, not sure exactly which one was.

[@YTKensei]

1:34 - Visibility in this game is so bad that I didn't even notice the player in the first two screenshots.

[@bs_blackscout]

I think it's by design. Just like most maps have lots of sightlines, it makes so that most interactions end up happening with a lot of chance involved. Get what I am saying? No conspiracy here, I think it's just really to maximize that hyper-drive always engaging (or so called ADHD/Tik Tok) gameplay. Instead of a more slow cadence, more tactical-thinking oriented type of gameplay. It's one of the game design aspects that bothers me the most with BO6.

[@nata13ylor]

😂😂😂

[@LB-HEARTLESS]

I talk about operators visibility since day one on X, Activision and Ace youtube chanel but no one answer....... the operators are washed and blurry.

[@YTKensei]

​@@bs_blackscout Ahhh, not bad thinking!

[@Redmont_]

open your eyes you know what black and white looks like right?

[@MellowVibesRadio]

Sorry, but did you test the lasers on Stakeout? I'm pretty sure I've seen a strong laser (green, I think) through the entire map, kitchen to kitchen.

[@RebelRising22]

I was curious about the face off maps too

[@jfedele35]

The first time I used a laser was on the protocol map and when I saw how visible it was, I instantly removed it and never used them on any loadouts. So this was new information for me, def will try them out on other maps.

[@C21-hv8ch]

Only lasers that are actually useful are strelok (snipers, SMGs) and tactical (shotguns). Sucks that the other 3 are a total waste. - Steady aim laser needs to be majorly buffed in how much it reduces spread while both still and moving. Would actually give shotguns some help with their abysmal STF and ADS times. Hipfire on them rn is plain awful and unjustifiable over taking 200 extra ms to ADS. - Fast-motion laser probably should function like the Dexterity perk where it reduces all weapon motion pretty strongly. This would immediately make it a go to for mouse users. - Target laser needs to reduce idle sway amount instead of just -32% time to sway. Would be huge for marksman rifles, the low recoil ARs, LMGs, and the conservative sniper type players. BO6’s attachments & perks feel half-baked. There’s already been a LOT of adjustments so far and I still feel like half of them need a rework in some capacity. I like the concept of most everything but the implantation falls short and renders a lot of the perks/attachment totally unviable if not useless.

[@ganr1277]

Tactical is good for LMG in CQC

[@WONTTEDTOMAS]

​@@ganr1277 the crossbar does it better

[@ganr1277]

@@WONTTEDTOMAS But you can't switch between ADS and tactical stance

[@jasond8897]

I have a bad feeling that the bug is that it is intended for lasers to look like protocol all of the time and that the bug is the low visibility and lasers will be terrible once they “fix” it.

[@drummaghua2687]

i personally likes the target laser the most, because most of my gunfight started when I was already fully ads and moving and target laser really helped a lot

[@Rustydude2030]

It's incredible and sad how many things and straight broken in this game. SMH.

[@Rustydude2030]

Mostly bc this game has "good bones". But also a ton of bugs and other issues. Which make it hard to play tbh. Been maining DMZ again. Which is also has plenty of its own issues but kind of what you expect for a game that's out of support.

[@StrawberryPidgey]

you should see how many broken things there are in League of Legends! And that's been out since 2008(?) lmao

[@AnEyeRacky]

It should be expected, actually. Go back to 2019, and every year since, there have been FAR more complaints, about stupid shit like this, that should have never, ever, made it past the first week of testing...but it was put into your hands anyway, because the update had some shop additions. The last 5-6 years have produced the worst, most incomplete, bug filled, literal trash videogames in the franchise *ever*

[@svendb7]

@@Rustydude2030loved DMZ. How are the vibes these days?

[@Rustydude2030]

@ it's massively PvP, which I'm fine with, it's part of the game. It's tough soloing, but as of long as you have a decent squad that comms, ideally "friends", it's fine. I made a second account in steam just a week or so ago so I could re-do all the missions and unlocks to give a little more of a challenge. Much harder to do now that it's full PvP all the time and very few ppl are doing missions. But I don't mind personally, it's supposed to be hard. Lol. Tbh the main issues are the glitchers and cheaters. Which isn't really any different than. BO6 anyways. Lol. Would be great if they did a patch(but zero chance of that) just to fix like 2-3 things, under map glitch, infinite scuba glitch, koschei glitch.

[@tylerjohnson3195]

All these secret stats and abilities or disabilities are probably a huge reason nothing gets fixed. They're struggling to maintain the broken shit we can't even see and shoving $25 bundles at us.

[@gun_gamer1237]

It will definitely make sense if it was based on the weather conditions and lighting of different maps I'm not sure on which maps lasers are more visible or not but if it will tend to be more like that then will definitely make more sense.

[@rainmouse2]

Speaking of lasers, could you do a video on the best guns for Tac-Stance please?! Also if anyone has any suggestions, drop them please, I am trying to find a nice Tac-Stance setup for Search or Control.

[@Plain_Pixel]

For the Tac Laser, equipping the ADS pellet tightening choke on shotguns actually does tighten their tac-stance spread.

[@ExorPraetor]

One problem I found with the Tac Laser is that when combined with an optic, it zooms in very far when ADS

[@dforer32]

I generally only use the lasers on gunfighter builds. I find myself going optic, muzzle, foregrip, extended mag, grip and stock the most. If it is a gun that doesn't need some of those, I will usually go the last slot over a laser.

[@Schpoo]

We're still misspelling "Strelok"?

[@farillagarilla7999]

Finding it weird that the lasers are invisible except on Protocol. How about a video on the Sniper Glint and how a 3X scope is considered "Large Scope Glint"? Keep up the great content!

[@Dillonmitchell92]

You can improve your tac stance spread, but only on shotguns if you use the muzzle attachment that tightens your ADS spread

[@Justinmiller10]

I thought I was tripping whenever a map started in protocol and the lasers look like light sabers from Star Wars

[@thomaskidd8027]

Quick correction on tac stance laser, you CAN tighten up that spread on shotguns via the modified choke

[@geostelar8517]

There is another bug involving lazers were if you were to equip or take one off it wont actually add/remove it from your gun, now im not sure if its visual only or if it actual effects the gun stats but the only way to fix it is to delete your class setup and remake it

[@Greendawn-di3dl]

I don't think I've personally ever noticed anyones laser before I notice them. But it feels like they notice me 50% more often with it

[@benejgreen]

Is cold-blooded vs thermal scopes broken? I have been trying to run some tests and my quick tests say it is broken for some scopes but not others! Also do different optics affect laser visibility as well?

[@deathtrooper2048]

For the tac laser you can also add it your pistols in BO6

[@pivnosar]

I've also easily noticed other players' lasers in the bright areas of Heirloom

[@emwols]

Wow, I knew my strelok laser was showing in pubs. I was surprised your testing showed it as invisible. I took it off since I realized it was visible but had no clue it was map dependent

[@moltencucumber6514]

I never use lasers except for snipers with the strelok laser

[@SoupreemBH]

Will note that the Target Laser is a bit of a crutch on KB+M because the bob is really really ungodly bad outside of close range. Controller its mostly helped by aim assist keeping your aim mostly centered, but without that youre kind of screwed if you're trying to play ranges at all. It's also why i refuse to play Protocol, because the glitch makes 99% of my builds worthless, since Target or Steady Aim depending on range is a crutch (and this is even considering the fact that hop fire is godawful in this game even with Steady Aim).

[@MrRezQ]

I can’t help but think skill-based laser visibility with all the skill based shenanigans going on

[@dameetray831]

I literally thought the same thing then scrolled down and this was the first comment lol. Now, people who believe skill based whatever will have more fuel for their conspiracies.

[@regular-thing]

None of the other "skill based" things (except sbmm) have ever been proven, so that is the last thing we should think

[@MrRezQ]

@@regular-thing but you can’t deny with all the drama about what skill based things there are, it’s a funny thing to think about

[@s-b6218]

There is definitely a 17yo who is convinced

[@BreakfastDP]

You are genuinely stupid if you believe in “skill based damage”

[@shadowgoblin123]

these are the types of weird bugs i remember from MWII....

[@user-pn5zo4km3l]

I didn't make the connection to Protocol but definitely noticed it; I thought maybe it was just something they patched to make lasers more visible to enemies and didn't give it much thought.

[@earlcathcart4783]

Knowing Call of Duty Laser Visibility on Protocol is supposed to be the norm and every other map is Bugged.

[@Windsore131]

I think they should make the laser sight be more realistic than ever, by adding blinding effect if you facing towards on them similar how real life does.

[@zenthegeneral]

I wouldn't put it past them to nerf the lasers so that all of them are bright af on every map like Protocol

[@KopiteBw]

I thought the strelock laser was becoming more visable depending on the scope I was using. Im sure ive tried the same gun using a 0x magnification scope and a 3x magnification scope, and the laser became more visible

[@mavisdavies9769]

Currently using the tactical laser on the LR 7.62

[@AManCalledBiggles]

Tac stance vs crossbar? Movement speed, accuracy etc?

[@Joenunyabiz]

I never use lasers because i assume everyone can see them

[@Devondavis-fm2dz]

Awesome new upgrades

[@cwp24]

Huh at least they give you a crosshair while in TAC stance unlike in MW2 where you had to rely on the laser dot which was hard to see in most conditions.

[@FluffiestWalrus]

I we sure it isn’t the case that the laser is bugged on every map EXCEPT Protocol? Seems weird that it is basically invisible

[@1mpekkable]

The best lazer especially for snipers is sterlok lazer hands down. Without sterlok lazer man idk what I would do lol Pop shots are so better while using the sterlok lazer.

[@mindblower88]

If you want to use the crossbar on lmgs which laser would be the best?

[@shannonjones8877]

TBH i think the lasers should have their effects buffed. - Steady Aim should give better hipfire and improve aim walking steadiness. - Fast Motion should improve your time to fire for those scenarios. - Tactical should just be like the Canted laser in MWII/MWIII. Remove your crosshairs so you just aim with the laser and give near full ADS accuracy. - Target should either have a further increased delay or actually improve idle sway as well. I'd be ok with making the Tactical and Target lasers substantially more visible to compensate for the buffs as well. And maybe Steady Aim just slightly more visible.

[@TheGreatChrisB]

If they fix this, wouldn't it make sense they make every map like Protocol? According to the descriptions, Protocol is the most accurate representation of the lasers. We may have discovered a bug working in our favor.

[@shanefisher2972]

I got my personal data today, it is insane compared to everyone else. Mine is mostly negative, sometimes negative 300-320.

[@User-be5yj]

Using a laser in protocol you might as well have a harp active in you.

[@ironsightsmcgillycudy7753]

Ace, can you tell us the optimal Posted Vid to Comment speed setup? I dont want to over invest in aim down sight attachments

[@Cyberdemon11120]

I'm just wondering if the same glitch is affecting the lasers in WarZone.

[@stephanecharette1573]

What would we do without you Ace lol My man

[@yoshi5080]

Lasers are 100% noticable on maps other than protocol. I have on many occasions seen a laser around a corner and adjusted my approach due to it. The target laser is especially egregrious, although that might be due the usecase (casting long lines over the map) more so than the actual brightness of the laser. I love your videos but I really don't get how you figure that the lasers are not so visible. For the record I'm playing on pc and have my settings tuned decently high on an RTX 4070

[@lemmingsftw2480]

have you looked at how aim assist turns off at closer ranges like 10m when you are near a wall, in the firing range if you aim at the closest dummy and move all the way to the left wall you lose all aim assist on the first target but full aim assist on the others

[@TheXclusiveAce]

No, I don't tend to take the firing range too seriously as there are plenty of inconsistencies compared to real games against actual player models

[@PtrOBrn]

I will rarely ever run a laser. I like to use thermal scopes and I see these things coming.

[@theshankpain2228]

I’m curious why you didn’t recommend the strelok laser for the pu 21? I found this laser was excellent for all my setups.

[@elvistwatty]

Tac stance should be a standard feature

[@aprillia-sr50r-16]

How many nukes did you get single release and any tips to get one?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

0. I got one in the beta and that's it so far

[@Wormed101]

Run green perks. Flak jacket/dispatcher/quartermaster i think they are called to get the final green perk. Run uav/counter uav/ harp. Run perk greed to use ghost as well, and use a suppressor on your gun. Staying hidden is powerful for flanks, and the green perks allow you to get your killstreaks much easier, so you can find the enemy much easier. You also have to get lucky with sbmm deciding if you're going to be facing mlg pros or people with no thumbs. Lmao

[@aprillia-sr50r-16]

@@TheXclusiveAcethanks love your work! ❤

[@phanta_rei2910]

Pray to the SBMM gods that you get in one of those bot lobbies lmao

[@Williamwillow_]

That one art museum map also has brighter lasers.

[@pda1799]

About the taclazer - try shotgun with choke.

[@SniPer_DoeDeL]

Hey Ace can u test the Bullet penetration ammo fmj

[@adamait1173]

Fast motion laser should be part of the dexterity perk with mantle 🤷

[@sambegley9966]

Skill based laser visibility !

[@ultra_loop1259]

The uav glitch still happens on mw2022 so I’m not surprised to see this 😂

[@opertin]

4 years and 4000 devs 10/10

[@Dudewhatno]

@thexclusiveace looks like they watched your videos and fixed it over the weekend btw. :) I saw them everywhere last night

[@dakotaseidel23]

Fast motion laser so underrated for SMG’s

[@alexandredias2010]

For real, I'm tired of so many attachments lol I barely play but when i do, i just put things that i think that are good, not gonna dissect every single attachment like i use to do in MW2019 It's more than time that CoD moves on of thisnstupid system, insane amount of levels for aj insane amount of attachments that most of them will ever be used

[@GhostProtocolXL]

Well good for me cause I always skip Protocol or even leave the lobby if it gets selected. Even though Protocol is in my name, I hate that map!

[@edgoodman01]

i now will be using the strlock laser

[@jastheace425]

A bug in this game NEVER!!!!

[@bgwehgaga]

i mean even if it is a bug, it's realistic. Lasers appear drastically differently depending on lighting, air quality, etc. The higher the particulate count in the air the more visible the beam.

[@Cokeamo1]

Thanks as always, Ace great job! I’ve always been curious and thought I could tell the difference, but is there a damage difference between ADS and hitting your target vs. Tac stance and hitting your target?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

Nope, none at all

[@jolbertti7421]

Do you think tactical cool downs like bo4 should come back to avoid nade spam?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

No. I personally just prefer a pick 10 style of a system so it costs something on your loadout to select a lethal/tactical. This cuts down on equipment spam while still allowing the equipment to be very useful and valuable to many but not all players/loadouts.

[@jolbertti7421]

​@@TheXclusiveAceBut they dont do it because warzone

[@FlatbadgerFilms]

I miss farm 18.

[@1andonlysam100]

Mercenary mode video next ace ?.

[@lukaslambs5780]

It’s weird because I was playing a private match of search with my friends and I had one of them tell me to stop using the laser because it gave my position away to him a few times but I’ve never spotted an enemy by solely seeing their laser first. The target laser is something I like to have on every class because I love how nice it makes strafing in gunfights feel. In search maybe I’ll forgo the laser but in other game modes I’m gonna keep using it!

[@ganr1277]

I use lasers as bait, but it doesn't work every time

[@Deadlycalling]

I havnt played it in 10 days,I didnt play cold war so I downloaded it,its clunky but infinitely better the BO6

[@robertthornton7900]

I dont think they care to fix it. I notice this about Protocol which initially made me doubt what you were saying about laser visibility... then I realized it was just that map. That was quite a while ago. OVer a month. They had plenty of chance to fix it and havent. They clearly dont care

[@ivanivanovic5857]

Skill Based Employee Selection dropping when?

[@lolschrauber]

Bugs bugs bugs It's what you get when devs half-ass their work with AI. Edit: tac laser reduces shotgun spread

[@Uladzya]

Of course Strelok laser is the best, cuz it's laser of Strelok himself(try to guess the reference).

[@ivirflawless9829]

Wow another bug who is surprised

[@R2d2_919]

What if Protocol is the correct version and the rest of the maps are bugged? 😂

[@shannonjones8877]

That's what i was considering too. Because it seems odd to say that a visible laser is a con when it's not even visible most of the time.

[@R2d2_919]

@@shannonjones8877 And if I am not mistaken, they are more visable in the firing range aren't they?

[@bushmonster1702]

that's a guarantee.

[@SoupreemBH]

I'd uninstall immediately considering Target Laser is a crutch attatchment for most guns on KB+M.

[@ryanroper628]

Insane awesome

[@macho8303n13]

Can you please make a video on MW3 it seems like the skill base matchmaking is turned off or very little I constantly get 100+ kills. I have B6 but I tend to like MW3 more it just feels a lot better and no it has nothing to do with that. I like stomping on 🤖’s .. and or make a video on what game you liked better I just wish mw3 had Omni movement

[@goldxphoenix98]

Mw3 has regular sbmm but you probably feel it less because people have moved to bo6. So with the lower player count the sbmm probably isnt being as strict since it needs to find a match. Plus most of the sweats are on bo6 so you're probably less likely to find them. No need for a video on it

[@TheXclusiveAce]

This happens every year when the majority of the playerbase moves on to the next CoD. They either reduce the strength of SBMM in older CoDs or it's simply a case of fewer people playing so the matchmaking system can't be as effective at finding similar skilled players when you search.

[@JimmySmash87]

I notice it way more now. I feel like they patched something

[@diamondis2]

Now this is known there'll be a patch to make every laser show like on protocol, making them useless. I'd put money on it because its the wrong decision and its Activision.

[@Nassar-e7e]

Is it patched ?

[@MarvelRivalsIsAmazing]

Can someone tell me why they haven’t fixed matchmaking

[@nagelflaviu5981]

let's hope protocol is bugged and not the other way around :)))))

[@kaptainkooleio]

We’re XAce guys, of course we comment 30 seconds after a new video drops

[@TheFrizor]

I don't think that it's a bug Protocol is the only rainy map, and lasers irl can be seen a lot easier if there is vapor or rain in the air

[@ridhosamudro2199]

Indoors tho?

[@arcticowl1091]

Yeah, right, as if the cod devs care about realism, you're a bright one aintcha?

[@JagsP95]

You're giving them way too much credit for this one lol just seems bugged.

[@bushmonster1702]

not likely lol

[@nh7680]

Another comment said Protocol was supposed to be a night time map

[@ProphetTLK]

Everything is skill based, it’s skill based laser visibility, skill based damage, skill base hit detection, skill based movement speed, every single gameplay element is controlled by the AI algorithm doing the EOMM. 😂😂😂 Ace is gonna hate this comment. Also I FEEL its there, I haven’t done any scientific controlled testing. - All in good fun from an Engineer 🎉

[@MARGWAA]

bro is a beta tester at this point

[@cwest58]

I never use any laser attachments