They Accused The Enemy DPS Of Cheating... What Really Happened? | Overwatch 2 Spectating

[@rickfsu22]

As a Anna main, oneof the hardest things I had to unlearn is to not chase down your team yo try and heal them whe they're critical health. Because when you do it creates a bad habit for the entire team to expect their supports to come and save them when they're out of position. The hard headed ones will still try and blame you but in reality it's almost never a good play to do so, you might save them but you will almost always die because the enemies see you and focus you down because killing a support is easy more advantage then a dps.

[@smellssmell2488]

I love this comment, it reminds me of Overwatch 1. I have a friend who is an Ana main, but doesn't have a house or internet to play anymore. But he would literally heal so much it made me play way too aggressive and ever since I couldn't play with them I've had to re learn how to play. And they are super inexperienced not having played in over a year now, and the game has changed a lot. So if they come over and play, it's usually really rough for them. I have decided that when they come over and play I just want to watch them and give them feedback and also try and help shake off the rust a little bit. But it's definitely tough when you are expected to heal that much. And a lot of people in the community have unrealistic expectations like that.

[@mysteriouspresent5186]

@@smellssmell2488 You didnt play OW1 if you think this was the case. People could play SO MUCH more aggressive in OW1 because there was just TONS of heals. Like, the average gold would get like 10k per 10 mins back then. top 500 used to be like 14k+ per 10..? You know what the average is now for gold? around 7k per 10. top 500? Like 6-11k, depending on the support. People SAY 'oh that's cuz there's one less tank' but no; it's because the supports say "Us dpsing is going to be more beneficial than letting our dps/tank fight" now. Happy to give up thousands of heals so that my healers can confirm and help with maybe 5 kills! And instead of like, idk the supports healing more, we're gonna rework the entire game ofc.

[@kaijuu_tho]

They're confused about why they keep losing and falling ranks but they have bad positioning, ability usage, and game understanding. They are so silver they thought someone who just...didn't run straight down mid was a cheater. Consistently trying to sleep an ulting Orisa.....You will not rank out into gold if you don't understand even the basics of the game - how your abilities interact with other heroes, how natural cover and high ground work, and even just the slightest bit of being able to multi-task and reacting faster would help.

[@smellssmell2488]

This isn't entirely true. Yeah, their ability usage isn't great, and there positioning is awful. But sometimes things happen and you make bad plays. Especially when you're overwhelmed by a tank that is feeding. I am not going to argue with you about what you said. But you're not helping create a good strong community by pointing out blatantly obvious bs that Emongg is already coaching someone through. You're toxic, and you're part of the problem. Learn to be part of the solution, that's really how you climb in a team based game like overwatch.

[@duck_3251]

to be honest compared to the teammates I get in silver. They are doing pretty well.

[@bobylob4625]

As a support main I usually defend other supports against tanks saying “you aren’t healing me enough” but this player genuinely was not healing the tank enough. There were at least three times when they walked into a fight on zen and threw healing orb on their 75% hp dps then sat there and watched their tank die without even trying to heal them.

[@trimaxusrez3714]

12:58 Mei’s silhouette getting banished by an Orisa javelin

[@bluebirdhumming]

i think a lot of ppl struggle with positioning on brig because they think her shield makes up for their lack of cover. it does not that shit is flimsy as hell u wanna hug corners and use the shield when you peek

[@pretty.billy.]

I just starting playing her and quickly realized the shield is not a safety net for positioning.

[@truuskikomo5227]

It does make up for lack of cover when you use that shied to bash to cover tho. Otherwise its just like winton bubble for 1v1’s, it buys a little time or blocks a cooldown, but most often only enough to hopefully get the CD off your bash and you are back at the start of this comment.

[@SMILE-h3]

For me either do it by accident ( i am very new to pc gaming) or I see one low hp target and tunnel vision into killing them. So far I have made much better progress with brig after trying to fix my tendency to get tunnel visioned

[@Kamingo170]

​@@pretty.billy. no shield = no mobility as well

[@bluebirdhumming]

@@truuskikomo5227 this is like saying genji dash makes up for a lack of cover if you use it to take cover. of course using your movement ability to get to a better position Gives You Cover, but it doesnt make up for how many people mistake brigs shield for a rein shield and use it as if it is real cover.

[@mayitakeyourhatsir8632]

I'll give this person a tip that i remember ML7 giving about shooting at valking mercy's as ana. if you miss two shots in a row, shoot at something else (assuming there's something else to shoot at.)

[@mylesbreaux8495]

Love the videos and the fact that you try to educate us players in a positive supportive way than just rag on us, keep being a great guy. Also as someone who plays in the lower ranks emongg I find alot of people don't play with volume on or pay any attention to sound ques like I do which is why I usually find myself having to deal with flanks myself as a support player even when pinging.

[@neilmallick20]

He does rag on you guys throughout spectating videos lol he just does it more subtle and classy than someone like flats

[@hoosierdaddyyy]

@@neilmallick20emonggs sense of humor with his dry sarcasm is some of my favorite things.

[@mylesbreaux8495]

@neilmallick20 I don't consider that ragging on people that's just being a good educator and understanding that being blunt usually just means they're being offensive and rude which will have an adverse effect on the person's growth that they're trying to get them too.

[@Lilian040210]

Yeah people don't even notice pings it's so frustrating

[@jotarokujo3603]

@@smellssmell2488 Pointing out what someone does wrong in an attempt to educate them, even if it is funny at times, is completely different to what Flats does. These videos are generally respectful. Flats is just outright toxic, dude doesn't even seem to like the game anymore but he'll sit on his ass encouraging the community to be as toxic as possible. Nothing Flats does is helpful to the game, he's actively making it a worse experience for everyone and the sooner he moves on to something else the better for us all.

[@FantasmaNaranja]

nano = panic every time i get nanoed with no warning and now i just gotta get out there and get at least three kills lest the ana complain

[@mylesbreaux8495]

@FantasmaNaranja this is why I usually wait on teammates to be low hp or depending on the hero when yall pop ults to almost get instant value because no one communicates anything so nano'ing randomly rarely ever produces results.

[@cardtower]

as an ana main sometimes i nano with no warning if i feel you're in a tough spot or if the supps can't heal you fast enough! a good ana shouldn't get mad about a 'wasted' nano cause that's no one's fault but their own.

[@mylesbreaux8495]

@cardtower I just complain when I nano them and they continously back up with like full hp or 80% with a nano especially for tanks because then it's like what did I nano you for then? Lol

[@fkatwigswife]

@@mylesbreaux8495keep in mind of your tank's cooldowns and what you expect them to rush into. just bc the tank is nanoed doesnt mean they should rush into the enemy. thats how they get blown tf up o

[@mylesbreaux8495]

@fkatwigswife I understand this but didn't feel like writing a paragraph explaining that and my experiences hence why until I see I have a decent tank that isn't hyper aggressive and unintentionally feeding I just nano to help them survive or when I see they're about to get aggressive to help their odds.

[@FadedNick]

I hate when my team starts snowballing. Like no you're not winning a 1v5 and the bit of damage you do is not going to help at all 😭

[@Faby07aleixo]

Yep, I hate when I realize I'm doing it too. I started to actually wait the other team mates to at least not be snowballed, even if we end up loosing.

[@Lo0serx3]

it does help!! gotta let the enemy supports build their ults c:

[@chromia9589]

Honestly the biggest thing imo is how lost they are. Completely unaware of people like at 24:40 and many other places. Just standing in the middle of nowhere not necessarily because they don't understand cover but cause they seem unaware that people are there and shooting at them.

[@Real_MisterSir]

The problem is not the balance between doing damage and doing healing. The problem is hyperfixating on one and neglecting the other, with no real consistency between what gets prioritized when. They hyperfixate on healing their tank when thats the opportunity right in front of them. Then when another opportunity presents itself, they hyperfixate on that. The real art comes not from chosing what to hyperfixate on, but by balancing between both seamlessly at the same time. Go for a shot on the enemy dps, then a shot to your tank to give them some healing -all while you're walking up with the team and being mindful of your own pathing and cover usage. Then take a shot on an enemy out of position, then heal your dps. Then heal your tank, then take another shot at the enemy support, etc etc. You can't just hyperfixate on one thing at a time for a prolonged period, that's how you're suddenly left in narnia while your tank and whole team pushes in and needs your support - while at other times you give them full support while they're at 80% hp and not even pushing the choke yet, meanwhile the enemy has taken 3 different angles cus you were hyperfixating on healing a near full Mauga doing jack all. Fluency of shifting priorities > hyperfixation on any specific priority.

[@issyaboyr873]

they really need to practice aim heavily before playing ana in comp their ana was a tough watch for the most part

[@caitskey]

Completely agree, I was cringing hard two minutes in

[@LinkGallent]

that's what silver rank is for, you pretentious t-waffle

[@iceghost97]

26:45 🤣 the double mercy rez

[@Carra_Mell0]

They said “Round 2: FIGHT!”

[@KhotaMaz]

Anyone playing Ana in a low elo, I beg you scope in a lot more, your normal shots are PROJECTILE! Your scoped in shots are hitscan, so u have more uptime and u also have way way better accuracy so u're more effective. Please stop firing 2-3 whole clips with no scoped in shots. I get it u want it to be faster but it's actually SLOWER than scoping in

[@dairyqueen911]

I think they should play a different support until their aim gets better, no point in playing ana when you miss 90% of your shots

[@mlgtactics9911]

13:53 its not that bad

[@Carra_Mell0]

Funnily enough playing ana despite my aim sucking is what allowed me to aim better as ana.

[@Lilian040210]

24:15 Zen's ragdoll pose is doing smth for me 🤨

[@smellssmell2488]

14:02 As someone who is currently stuck in gold, and climbed all the way through bronze and silver. That is 100% an expected hold, and Emongg explained this perfectly. I doubt some people will understand and back up regardless. But when I climbed out of silver, people playing there just made it so much more tough. I climbed out with tank first just because I could survive longer and I would play sigma and poke out to that area while my teammates were out there, I could also throw them a shield if needed. But I remember sweating profusely trying to win a team fight there that was way closer than it should be. And the best part, is because your silver teammates are playing there and have to work way harder too, even if you pop off and win the team fight pretty much by yourself. It was their hard work and that's the reason you won the fight. Meanwhile they aren't hitting a single shot while playing hanzo.

[@smellssmell2488]

In gold this is still a strat, but people play borderline worse in gold. They are mechanically better overall, but something about being in gold and plat has given them this mindset that they are "just better" and they try to go in and win fights alone against people who are just as good as they are mechanically. And then that usually ends up losing a teamfight, but it's not their fault of course. It's your fault because you didn't run in with them. This is something that happens in Silver and Bronze too, but in those ranks there is a lot of stuff that is going on making it a lot harder to understand where to start unless you just focus on the basics and play enough games to climb. That's honestly how I got up to gold.

[@smellssmell2488]

16:25 Now this is a hold! Sometimes very rarely you'll get gold players to hold like this. I'm honestly not used to this and I can tell most gold players aren't either. Most of the time when a gold team holds like this they just fall over immediately. While I played tank and my team held like that I felt like I was just fighting for my life, but we won most of the fights regardless. It works, and "hide your aggression" part is the best Overwatch coaching I've heard! I haven't ever thought of it like that, but it makes perfect sense. I have a less experienced perception of this, so I usually just say "give them a little more map control" or "let them walk past the choke" and that usually works to make me and my teammates understand how to play like that. It makes it so their team splits up trying to do too much which is when you can win more fights.

[@duck_3251]

watching my entire team getting spawn camped Well I am capturing the objective on support and 1 vs 3 both of their supports and one DPS. Makes me lose faith That I will ever leave silver.

[@jotarokujo3603]

In regards to smurfing; I don't know what Blizzard's stance is on the matter, but I would assume they're not exactly keen on it. Having to link a phone number to an account makes me think they'd rather we didn't have multiple accounts. Having multiple accounts is historically not something companies want to encourage. Also playing with low ranked friends in wide groups is not smurfing. Smurfing is using a fresh or low ranked account to get into games well below your skill level. Wide groups attempt to accommodate groups of players with large skill gaps by balancing each team with similar skill ranges. The issue with smurfing is the deceitful nature, wide groups don't have that issue. Alt accounts are often raised as an exception to smurfing and whilst there are situations in which I can agree with this, Overwatch is not really a game where you benefit from having multiple accounts. Of course there are content creators who do bronze to gm Series'. Whilst I do see the logic behind doing this and don't find it deceitful or toxic in general, I also don't think it's very helpful. Watching someone whose skill level is already way above the lower ranks isn't going to help you get out of those ranks. They're just going to breeze through the early games and very quickly get flagged as belonging in a higher rank. Their elo gains and progress will be much faster than other players in those ranks. Personally, I don't see any benefit that smurfing provides to anyone other than an ego boost at the expense of other players. Let everyone have fun, not being amazing at the game doesn't mean that other people don't deserve to enjoy themselves. Not everyone has the time or inclination to take this game as seriously as others, but they should be able to still have fun.

[@imclueless9875]

Within first minute, dude burns all CD's instantly and runs in a straight line at a walking army Orisa, then walks in a straight line towards a pocketed Cassidy... This is gunna be a good one 😂

[@XOzzyverse]

Honestly I think the most likely reason ppl get lost when someone shoots at them is cuz they don't realize there is a damage indicator that tells you the direction you take damage from.

[@mercurial24x]

they're definitely playing with a controller.. hard to watch them pan around in slow mo

[@ayla1219]

Last night i had an ana nano me on ulting brig while i was half hp and purpled 😭 died instantly

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

Buddy is not meant to be a support player. So much missed healing

[@EvilMagnitude]

DPS Ana drives me crazy lol, can be so frustrating when you look at the scoreboard at the end of the match and they have barely any healing at all

[@ADJupiter]

@@EvilMagnitude ong, they jus need to be a bap main atp

[@srr4460]

Is this Ana on controller? Their aim seems really shaky or like its drifting around.

[@khdworldofficial]

I'm interested on submitting my 0 death Juno gameplay on comp. Where can I try submitting it to emongg? Thank you

[@ganymede19]

6:30 chat "sometimes genjis just never do the dash into the air" Reminds me of my 5 yo niece who likes to say "Sometimes I always do that" Sometimes? Always? Never? Which is it?!?!?

[@breakfaith3031]

What that person was trying to say was "sometimes you get a genji who jever does the dash upwards."

[@MrKlarc19]

My tanks always run into small, confined rooms, then yell about not getting healed.

[@terribleawful]

your definition of snowballing sounds a lot more like trickling to me. where each member of the team sequentially goes in and dies 1v5 so that you never have a 5v5. ive always heard snowballing explained as a team using the momentum of a won fight to push forward and take a further advantageous fight against less people because there is no time for them to group up again

[@pretty.billy.]

Yeah I feel the same

[@DustinEG6]

The way he said it sounded off but he's saying they're getting snowballed, as in the other team has all the momentum (a snowball rolling down hill gets bigger). I think he just worded it funny lol

[@juveintheusa6261]

It’s called snow balling bc it just keeps getting bigger lol

[@kyo-wm3wb]

I think the effect is still the same, even if it isn't a traditional/textbook snowball lol

[@isaiahf-d846]

both are snow balling just in opposite sense snowballing as a term just means to progressively get out of hand trickling is a type of snowball where each death your team gets more upset and feeds more getting less and less value until you're playing respawn simulator or the team I'd at eachothers throats in chat then curbstomping is the other snowball where you're grouping up or semi grouping up but the team is using the momentum from previous fights, ult charge, early picks, and w keying to keep you from getting a real chance at a retake

[@el_dragunov]

Lucky you're here to educate these types of players (and all of us) because he and we need to see these types of games to know what to do or not to. What i saw here is bad positioning, not good aim and bad use of his skills. How many times he used (or even tried) sleep on a fortified/ult/javspin orisa? for realif you have a decent game sense (not GM but at least Plat or even Gold game sense), you should know when to use or not to use your sleeps. i'm not even talking about positioning, but at least he should improve of his management of the skills

[@thezombiesatemyhomework7412]

Positioning is where I think our team struggles the most. We just do not make good decisions lol. (Myself fully included) I would watch an entire video all about positioning with examples. We all (my team) would. 😅

[@mrzd3756]

You're such an amazing person, please never change.

[@hat6766]

3:30 how did no one notice what he said

[@Lilian040210]

"If your teammate dies there it's their fault" problem is, they all will. Asking them to wait, fall back, use cover, not stand in the open, not stand on the other side of first point defense, they don't care

[@dynamickush167]

i havent played since before doomfist came out. Just started playing again and switched to pc id love to do one of these

[@trilloff]

What do you mean "Go in with your team?" The first fight, the DVA completeley ignored the Orisa and the pocketed Cassidy and flew over them. How the hell would Ana get there?

[@antoineford3729]

Bruh ana is a really strong support when played right. This person just waste abilities like trying to sleep orisa multiple times. Why?

[@MAKORAAAHH]

do they have headphones on their head?

[@jaasmined600]

emongg overwatc

[@MonkeyBanjo7]

Hope everyone’s day is going well and if not smile and do something fun like watching this emongg video.

[@angelsibrian5085]

They should just play dps

[@SitchBlap]

thats some bronze reactiom times lol. i hope the submiter climbs though, they can do it for sure!

[@claudiuspulcher2440]

why did this player keep picking the slowest supports to get back to the fight in overtime..? Not to mention going zen with a mercy when you have a tank that needs healing is not a great idea to being with.

[@toespher]

This guy should stick to mercy or Moira, I have no idea why they chose zen and Ana when it looks like they’re playing with a trackpad

[@djlemon40]

Doesn’t help that you have a silver widow, and a stupidly aggressive tank.

[@Princ3ssCai]

I feel like some of these comments are a little mean. The person acknowledged they weren’t the best in their description so there’s no reason to be so harsh.

[@mylesbreaux8495]

@Princ3ssCai people are rude nothing you can do about it but ignore to the best of your abilities or let it bother us, just be better than them. 👍🏽

[@Princ3ssCai]

@ Yep that’s true, emongg himself is very positive which is why out of so many streamers I really only watch him. I wish some of his community were as kind as him though

[@mylesbreaux8495]

@Princ3ssCai well I won't act like I'm perfect and always nice because I have my moments for sure but I definitely don't go out of my way to be rude just because it's the internet like others do. Anyways just try to stay positive and don't let them get to you. ^_^

[@Princ3ssCai]

@ I agree with you on that 😭

[@alexquitty809]

Am I the only one wondering why they're playing without headphones? No attention to surroundings whatsoever...

[@Waffl3B1T]

ALRIGHT SO!! Todays video…

[@djlemon40]

As much as you need to work on, sometimes you just can’t climb with the teammates you get. That was a team loss all around.

[@Princ3ssCai]

@@djlemon40 Yeah nobody does perfect in a match but sometimes there’s no way to pull through. In the past few days I’ve been finding myself having to healbot the tank because they don’t fall back or use any sort of cover and they have the audacity to use the I need healing voice line. Games like that are impossible to win but I’m not saying this game is the same situation exactly

[@advikdeshmukh805]

Tbh I think this game was very winnable. Even though everyone kept staggering, I think even a low plat Ana could clutch the game.

[@axion4204]

I see Smurfing as cheating. OK time to watch.

[@cloudymarlin]

New ana players, I beg you guys to use your scope in please 😫 it’s so painful watching you guys miss and waste 4 shots to heal a player once

[@bioticsla]

im turning off this channel from recommendations when the title is something you look at for less than 1 minute, 30 minutes into a 30 minute video that isnt even interesting

[@geert574]

😂 this guys problem is playing Ana u dont play Ana in that rank unless u wanna go to bronze somehow

[@fkatwigswife]

ana is quite literally one of the best supports to climb on. not if youre not good with her though

[@pretty.billy.]

@@fkatwigswifeshe is like one of the most position heavy characters,

[@Deltha6434]

less then 300 views? must be washed

[@ryanfurness2859]

First??? Love the content emongg

[@MonkeyBanjo7]

Congrats! You were indeed first!

[@callmejm3073]

I don't want that Ana player in my team not ever for 100$ I prefer voting for Trump right now!

[@zjohn11]

Hats off to you man, you found a way to bring up politics on a video about overwatch.

[@pepsusser]

Obnoxious as fuck lol