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@zachperry9960
@zachperry9960 8 ай бұрын
“ Ping is not king. It’s one of eight princes” is probably your best line I’ve ever heard you speak Jev
@EUM_NEMESIS
@EUM_NEMESIS 8 ай бұрын
The next question should be: "But now who is the crown prince, the projected heir?" But seriously though, they could cut like 3 or 4 categories and make the MM far better.
@Dubulcle
@Dubulcle 8 ай бұрын
​​@@EUM_NEMESIS You realise that they're capping right. They don't actually factor in all the other ones, and on the off chance that they do, it'll be negligible ( *which is why they coincidentally didn't mention how much the system favours each factor individually* ) In reality it's probably 47% ping 47%, skill and 1% for the 6 other factors.
@Editionsz
@Editionsz 8 ай бұрын
He needs to play Lies of P
@Looseskru
@Looseskru 8 ай бұрын
@@Editionszyour spamming the comment section about bro playing lies of P. I wasn’t gonna be that guy too ray on your preference bc I do think that game is shit but damn bro chill
@Ace_v120
@Ace_v120 8 ай бұрын
and people on reddit would not agree lol
@ChippTheFox
@ChippTheFox 8 ай бұрын
As a shipment 24/7 only player, I do feel bad that SBMM exists. I can't tell you how many 80-120kill games I've had where the enemy had 2 good games previously and was very vocal about it in voice during/after match. And just insanely upset and frustrated that they're put into a lobby like mine, for the next 5 games. They aren't having fun. And the fact Activision acknowledges this but literally states they have no plans to fix it is just crazy.
@kingpeso4240
@kingpeso4240 8 ай бұрын
The game just isn’t fun when you go from having chill lobbies to try hards
@krazykuz13cmc
@krazykuz13cmc 8 ай бұрын
Stop cheating then
@scrotumscratcher2474
@scrotumscratcher2474 8 ай бұрын
@@krazykuz13cmcbait comment? Christ you’re 13 lmao go do your homework
@connorlynch428
@connorlynch428 8 ай бұрын
​@@krazykuz13cmc who the fuck is cheating lil bro🤣🤣
@Hoholikzqxwk
@Hoholikzqxwk 8 ай бұрын
You’re the reason i can’t camo grind. If you guys want to sweat so bad go do it in a different mode
@Tex-18
@Tex-18 8 ай бұрын
“The guy typing this has a gun to throw back of his head, sitting next to the next corpse who typed it next to him” IM DEAD
@NoidedStarChild
@NoidedStarChild 8 ай бұрын
7.62 though the doors ,jev shhhhnapped
@CTMDon
@CTMDon 8 ай бұрын
Shii is sweaty asf , like dude I come home from work to play Optic Scump and his buddies💀.
@URBONED
@URBONED 8 ай бұрын
I honestly don't mind the SBMM. Even back in the day I feel like there was a pretty consistent win/loss across multiple games. Some games you do great, other games you suck. It's obviously more skewed now with so many games being near draws, which I don't really mind. My biggest issue is disbanding lobbies. They claim they don't want people having to wait between games, but I'm almost certain I spend more time waiting on matches after every game than back in the day consistently having 60 seconds between matches. Then if you find a decent lobby you can stick to it for an hour or so with majority of the same players. Players will always filter in and out, and if someone's consistently doing badly, they can back out and find another game, and their spot can be filled with a better player.
@jeremyroberts8822
@jeremyroberts8822 8 ай бұрын
I don’t mind it either. If we’re being real it’s dumb how pressed people are about this, it shouldn’t even be this big of a topic.
@URBONED
@URBONED 8 ай бұрын
@@jeremyroberts8822 glad I’m not alone on this. I don’t see how it’s fun to just endlessly stomp on the enemy team. It’s better if it’s slightly more competitive.
@garrettgreen9667
@garrettgreen9667 8 ай бұрын
So, they kind of do have a point. Destiny saw it's players abandon it's PvP modes because the average players got beat so badly that there was just no point in even trying. Everyone just quit playing and now the average player in it is above average.
@user-sg5vb7ou9i
@user-sg5vb7ou9i 8 ай бұрын
I'm in the uk and don't agree too much that ping is king. I'm not a high kd but average (1.5). Not a single person in my lobby is English, all German and French. Are they trying to tell me there are enough players in the UK to match me with? I'd rather play off nasty ping and play with American players to get good banter etc
@Jay_-pp9vk
@Jay_-pp9vk 8 ай бұрын
Fucking preach that shit 😂
@roachdoggjr99
@roachdoggjr99 8 ай бұрын
Just search up Activisons patents that they filed that will blow your mind
@Bunterino
@Bunterino 8 ай бұрын
man I just need them to not fuck up bo2 remastered. I have 0 hope for call of duty anymore
@aboody1000
@aboody1000 8 ай бұрын
“Anyway I’m getting on Palworld” this is the best ending of all time LMAO
@illuminousloo
@illuminousloo 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been playing it all week. Ain’t played cod that much because palworld is amazing haha
@KLtheCustard
@KLtheCustard 8 ай бұрын
​@@illuminousloofr I'm taking a break cuz I don't feel like sweating in matches rn 😂
@ct2xperience749
@ct2xperience749 8 ай бұрын
Gonna play Pow-world
@stephenkapellas7257
@stephenkapellas7257 8 ай бұрын
Haven’t played cod in weeks, uninstalled last night cause it’s been months lol
@wxlfii3479
@wxlfii3479 8 ай бұрын
“you do well a couple times… the game thinks you’re scump”😭😭😭
@Underground-NYC
@Underground-NYC 8 ай бұрын
On god🤣🤣
@SHOWST0PPER243
@SHOWST0PPER243 8 ай бұрын
Too true
@andrewbrown6964
@andrewbrown6964 8 ай бұрын
this was the first comment i looked for
@trabacon9227
@trabacon9227 8 ай бұрын
I don’t understand y’all
@714ever8
@714ever8 8 ай бұрын
What is there not to understand? Lol​@@trabacon9227
@dundee2858
@dundee2858 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous a billion dollar AAA gaming company is trying trying to gaslight consumers
@tenseyyy3019
@tenseyyy3019 8 ай бұрын
Nah but it's actually crazy because it makes so much more sense now about mw19
@darkh0st
@darkh0st 8 ай бұрын
Wait until you hear what the government does.
@Braydzz
@Braydzz 8 ай бұрын
It's funny how SBMM is so strict but in ranked (The only place that it should exist) You still get matched against crimson and diamond players as a bronze team.
@toxicwast3882
@toxicwast3882 8 ай бұрын
Yup. Had two or 3 good games ( we all bronze ) and then we were getting paired against top 250 players 😂 make it make sense.
@vickiwampler9823
@vickiwampler9823 8 ай бұрын
I’m a Silver 3 solo queuing and I got matched up against a 4 stack of crimsons. How tf am I in their lobby.@@toxicwast3882
@Thirdstar
@Thirdstar 8 ай бұрын
Because there’s a hidden mmr, which makes 0 sense.
@youngcharley8955
@youngcharley8955 8 ай бұрын
all im sayin is im not playing new cod this your a nd cod 2025 is my last cod
@selfmadesmkbrandbrand1404
@selfmadesmkbrandbrand1404 8 ай бұрын
Tbh I just want them to address the camping problem, ik player will camp and ain’t nun much you can do about it but when an entire team camping and hiding not moving for an entire game that makes the game not playable and now the current player base most there winning the strategies of sitting in a corner waiting for someone to walk past them without being seen then moving the a different location doin it all over again
@mitchmurphy9164
@mitchmurphy9164 8 ай бұрын
Sbmm made me quit cod
@mrmangbro6842
@mrmangbro6842 8 ай бұрын
Its not sbmm it's eomm. That's the problem
@_dibbs
@_dibbs 8 ай бұрын
sbmm can be good if implemented properly but at this point cod has ascended past sbmm to eomm (engagement optimized matchmaking) which is far worse
@xghostx9715
@xghostx9715 8 ай бұрын
Recently, in MP, my K/D went down from 1.08 to 1.06 where I’m scared to even touch MP now. Nowadays, I just play Zombies or screw around in Warzone solo BR/Resurgence, where I can care less about my K/D.
@Cronrath64
@Cronrath64 8 ай бұрын
@@mrmangbro6842true
@willspinner2968
@willspinner2968 8 ай бұрын
@@xghostx9715I ain’t gonna act like I didn’t care about my K/D back in like BO2 but caring about it in 2024??? Game is not worth that imo
@Jacketz123
@Jacketz123 8 ай бұрын
The whole “Ping is King Schtick from them is total bs. I had a consistent 1.98KD in Cold War and I never played in a lobby less than 90 ping. At that point it’s just rigging me to lose, it’s completely unfair.
@davidd1704
@davidd1704 7 ай бұрын
What do you consider fair? Letting sweaties farm casual .6-.8 KD players? Is that fair that they have to be in a casual lobby with someone who isn’t casual at all?
@Jacketz123
@Jacketz123 7 ай бұрын
@@davidd1704 well I never said that so obviously not. What’s even your point? That I should just make do with my 100 ping and lose because of my connection? Skill Based Matchmaking can exist in such brackets where it doesn’t have to search the entire globe just to find 11 other people with the exact same stats as me at any one time.
@michellerahe4853
@michellerahe4853 8 ай бұрын
Cod: "Hey so we're just going to say and clarify it ourselves and tell you guy's what you already know how our SBMM works. Hope we helped :))"
@kend9l
@kend9l 8 ай бұрын
Hey guys! a month late here! here is some super obvious information !!
@zDsire
@zDsire 8 ай бұрын
It was literally everything we already knew lol such garbage.
@mystical6367
@mystical6367 8 ай бұрын
You def didn’t know all these details. And the point was basically to shut down your stupid theories like Skill base damage and just tell you “your just bad”. And they called all the sweats out saying the better players keep playing when they lost so it’s your own faults cuz y’all just keep playing Everygame when you complain
@pavmx703
@pavmx703 8 ай бұрын
@@mystical6367 We pretty much knew the useful stuff that wasn't fluff. If I say something is red and someone else says it's crimson, that doesn't make me wrong.
@sporaticz
@sporaticz 8 ай бұрын
Shit literally drove me off cod over a year ago. How tf is it fair that I’m level 30 matched up with 200+ crackheads that play 5 hrs a day. I just want to relax and drop an easy 30. They have ranked for a reason. Hate it man.
@5eymour8utz
@5eymour8utz 8 ай бұрын
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike cod chad with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from cod fear of dark world and realism
@ARCANExx
@ARCANExx 8 ай бұрын
Jev saying “they want you to not hop on another game” makes sense because that’s why we get 40-90 gb updates, it’s so ridiculous how the game is 200+gbs without campaign installed for me 😂😂😂😂
@Austin-l1j
@Austin-l1j 8 ай бұрын
It’s stupid you can’t only have multiplayer installed. Like idgaf about warzone or the campaign.
@Mad-rg9sz
@Mad-rg9sz 8 ай бұрын
Can't lie my game takes up 70gb on PC. Don't know why tf people's is so big
@ballaxx3150
@ballaxx3150 8 ай бұрын
@@Austin-l1j you can delete campaign and warzone through the In game files lol. Zombies is the only thing you can’t delete
@maxdrags3115
@maxdrags3115 8 ай бұрын
​@@Austin-l1j You are stupid. You CAN have only MP installed. On both PC and Console, it's pretty fucking easy to do too.
@jordyj4126
@jordyj4126 8 ай бұрын
​@@Mad-rg9szconsole
@mikeywiththeshotty
@mikeywiththeshotty 8 ай бұрын
The difference is that COD 4 and other earlier cods SBMM was calculated after finding a match to balance teams, after the lobby was created. Newer cods use skill before the match and lobby is created.
@ijustyap
@ijustyap 8 ай бұрын
THIS RIGHT HERE
@brandonespinoza111
@brandonespinoza111 8 ай бұрын
Naw there was no sbmm in older cods but it’s better now that there is it makes you actually try to play
@sv_sup6661
@sv_sup6661 8 ай бұрын
@@brandonespinoza111 There was though. It just wasn’t anywhere near as strict as now. There was no “searching for match
@hoagieland3716
@hoagieland3716 8 ай бұрын
@@brandonespinoza111There was always a protected bracket for the lowest of low skill players, even in the older games. Also, the SBMM algorithm back then was very simple: it chose 12 people randomly from the pool of players within close proximity, chose someone relatively central with mildly decent internet to be the host, and balanced teams based on the previous match. In fact, you could actually see the team balancing if you stuck around. All it did was order each player based on score and then alternate when putting players on teams. So, 1st, 3rd, 5th, etc were on one team and 2nd, 4th, 6th, etc were on the other
@choloman3
@choloman3 8 ай бұрын
@@hoagieland3716god i miss this well detailed I remember this
@darthJ9
@darthJ9 8 ай бұрын
Jev signing off on the rant with I'm getting on palword was gold 😂
@kujokage4611
@kujokage4611 8 ай бұрын
lol thats all i play now its more relaxing than fighting cdl lobbies every time i hop on or getting shadowbanned for doing too good with trash guns when im just grinding camos
@KyzaRipper
@KyzaRipper 8 ай бұрын
I quit cod a while ago because of sbmm. Every time I have tried to come back to the game for nostalgic purposes, the newer experience is so much worse. I am glad that you have spoken the truth in the past and continue to do so today. You will always be the only cod content creator I watch.
@dries2579
@dries2579 8 ай бұрын
exactly the same here
@brandonespinoza111
@brandonespinoza111 8 ай бұрын
You just have to get better 😢
@bmwtopspeed
@bmwtopspeed 8 ай бұрын
@@brandonespinoza111ok Mr “key board and mouse” 🐁
@brandonespinoza111
@brandonespinoza111 8 ай бұрын
@@bmwtopspeed what🤦‍♂️
@lessidealuncut6605
@lessidealuncut6605 8 ай бұрын
@@brandonespinoza111except you get better and then there’s no reward. you just have to keep trying harder and harder and that isn’t fun whatsoever
@spore9428
@spore9428 8 ай бұрын
Player retention must be worse than ever for them actually communicate like this.
@FinancialStorm7
@FinancialStorm7 8 ай бұрын
I hope you're right. This is the first cod that I quit only a few weeks after launch. Given my last jump with cod was from BO3 until last year's MW2 which I thoroughly enjoyed and was extremely good and consistent at. MW3 I cannot have a single good experience especially when playing with friends at all different skill levels, it is truly impossible
@exDivinityFPS
@exDivinityFPS 8 ай бұрын
Over 80% of the PC player-base has quit COD between MWII and MWIII's terrible reception. We're talking about a decline from like 500,000 active steam users to 100,000 with dips down to low 40,000s.
@Veez0
@Veez0 8 ай бұрын
@@exDivinityFPSwhere’d u get this information
@exDivinityFPS
@exDivinityFPS 8 ай бұрын
@@Veez0Steam playerbase is a good reflection of the PC playerbase, and is one of the more populated platforms the game is played on overall. The steam player retention for MWII and MWIII was beyond terrible. Among the worst I've seen in any Call of Duty title. Ever. MWII started out with what, like 600,000 on Steam? Declined to 100,000 during off hours. Then they released MWIII, which barely caused a jump in the population... A brief jump of... 100,000 players, which fell off entirely. Continued to decline until there's less than 40,000 people on Steam playing at times, with peaks around 100,000. It's presently one of the least popular mainstream FPS games, with games such as TF2, GTA V, Warframe, and Rust outperforming it consistently and in some cases quite considerably. Keep in mind that they combine the numbers for Warzone, MWII, AND MWIII to get those numbers and they're still abysmal. THREE GAMES AT ONCE can't match decade-old games.
@Erik-R
@Erik-R 8 ай бұрын
@@exDivinityFPS Ty for the source, but do you have a source for the old games? I feel like the 3-month drop-off has kind of always been a thing. Are Steam charts from years ago still available?
@spin.chicken
@spin.chicken 8 ай бұрын
The average player is NOT GOOD at COD. Which means, most matches will have AVERAGE players in them with maybe one or two being really good. You cannot tell me that "Our studies show that players are getting BLOWN OUT and leave matches because there's no SBMM", that simply would not happen. They are absolutely lying because most of the players in the lobby would be average. There's no way it's consistently 6 average joes vs 6 "gods". That's statistically impossible. SBMM is a thing right now, and I'm still getting in matches where the game ends 200-6 in Hardpoint. Blown out matches are going to happen regardless of SBMM being present or not. So using "people are getting blown out and rage quit" as a reason for SBMM to be implemented is just a cheap answer because there will always be blow out matches and rage quitting. That's gaming. The PRO LEAGUE has blow out matches, too. Even the "best" team can get absolutely stomped. It happens. That is a horrendous argument full of holes.
@artvandelay6306
@artvandelay6306 8 ай бұрын
Make a non-SBMM playlist and see what the players actually want. Seems pretty simple.
@Mammo_NZ
@Mammo_NZ 8 ай бұрын
They have access to much more data than that already. Which is why we have SBMM
@gregorstevenson1313
@gregorstevenson1313 8 ай бұрын
@@Mammo_NZif you make a non sbmm playlist then both sides win, if you don’t want to play against the better players play the normal game modes, if you want it back to how it used to be play non sbmm. Win win
@nytecorrr736
@nytecorrr736 8 ай бұрын
@@gregorstevenson1313only side that wins are the insane players(top10%), they can legit queue non sbmm mode and smurf with no penalty.
@blackwng
@blackwng 8 ай бұрын
lmao theyd be so upset when its 90% no sbmm lobbies and 10% sbmm
@Mammo_NZ
@Mammo_NZ 8 ай бұрын
@@gregorstevenson1313 the people going for non SBMM playlists will be all the good players looking for bots to stomp, and finding all the other good players looking for bots to stomp... the people they want to play against wont be choosing the non SBMM playlist.
@chancebarber4902
@chancebarber4902 8 ай бұрын
Worse part is this SBMM makes it impossible to play with friends who aren’t as good as you because they just aren’t having any fun. This is why I haven’t played a game of cod in general in months
@hmoobhawj3213
@hmoobhawj3213 8 ай бұрын
I’m in the same situation!! My friends aren’t as good and we’re getting stomp most of the time. It’s not fun for them anymore and I’m starting to feel that way too.
@okamegaobii2954
@okamegaobii2954 8 ай бұрын
This is why i quit, i haven't played cod since mw2019 was popular. I've always been the "sweat" out of my friends; so when it came to mw2019 sbmm, they felt like they were in hell playing with me so they'd play a few and get off or id play solo
@sick5088
@sick5088 8 ай бұрын
jev keeps the enthusiasm throughout the years. legend
@JOSHHARRIS-v3w
@JOSHHARRIS-v3w 8 ай бұрын
Idk how he does it
@tire_iron488
@tire_iron488 8 ай бұрын
🤖
@iiTsFaded_
@iiTsFaded_ 8 ай бұрын
yall just be doing whatever it takes to get the most liked comment
@6ixTrey
@6ixTrey 8 ай бұрын
Bro plays other games to keep his sanity
@Editionsz
@Editionsz 8 ай бұрын
We need him to play Lies of P
@zDsire
@zDsire 8 ай бұрын
Jev straight talking shit I love it lol he was so calm in the beginning then slowly you can see his aggravation escalate lol
@davidd1704
@davidd1704 7 ай бұрын
“Why won’t you just let me farm actual casual players??? Come on MY player experience!”
@Maverick2Fly
@Maverick2Fly 8 ай бұрын
Who's surprised?
@danielrosasramos7569
@danielrosasramos7569 8 ай бұрын
No one
@Editionsz
@Editionsz 8 ай бұрын
I’m surprised he still hasn’t played Lies of P
@ioffendedyoudidnti4784
@ioffendedyoudidnti4784 8 ай бұрын
You didn’t even watch the video
@WeebMeister37
@WeebMeister37 8 ай бұрын
Not me 😂
@MrAnxious
@MrAnxious 8 ай бұрын
@@ioffendedyoudidnti4784lmaooo
@LeekyLavish
@LeekyLavish 8 ай бұрын
“you do well for two games and the game thinks you’re fu**in scump “ love this guy 😂😂
@asmrslimraven
@asmrslimraven 8 ай бұрын
Says a lot when a game like XDefiant puts in no SBMM and everyone had a great time. It is so unbelievably obvious that this is more about making money then their players having fun
@Mammo_NZ
@Mammo_NZ 8 ай бұрын
The two are intertwined. Player base is king, and it generates the money to spend on the game. less players, less money spent on the game, a worse game.
@SmokinTonic
@SmokinTonic 8 ай бұрын
@@Mammo_NZ what a corporate comment😂 less money spent in game means it's a good game
@Mammo_NZ
@Mammo_NZ 8 ай бұрын
@@SmokinTonic If the game doesnt make money because of falling engagement, there is less to reinvest into it, and you get a worse game. Pretty simple stuff.
@alexhopi1425
@alexhopi1425 8 ай бұрын
@@Mammo_NZ Funny how the most played game on steam right now had 1/10th of the budget CoD has XD. Almost like if the game is designed to be fun, it doesn't matter.
@spin.chicken
@spin.chicken 8 ай бұрын
@@Mammo_NZ People will play if a game is fun. But SBMM is not fun. EOMM is not fun. (For COD anyway. Games like RL need SBMM)
@joshjmilli
@joshjmilli 8 ай бұрын
It’s funny they claim SBMM retains players, even though I stopped playing CoD because of it
@hjalleson309
@hjalleson309 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, you are not the target audience for COD. The system that caused you to quit made more players (bad players) stick around, increasing player count and making investors happy. For every good player that quits due to SBMM theres probably 2-3 bad ones that keep playing due to SBMM.
@MLemonT4
@MLemonT4 8 ай бұрын
There is a Bungie blog post about Destiny 2 from about a year ago that went SUPER in-depth into SBMM and how it works. Would recommend to anyone interested in learning how SBMM actually works.
@WeebMeister37
@WeebMeister37 8 ай бұрын
Like Merkmusic said, they are never going to truly explain how it works, and never going to explain it in true fine detail
@Mammo_NZ
@Mammo_NZ 8 ай бұрын
Well, Jev did skip over the future communications part....
@icecoldjohnnyy
@icecoldjohnnyy 8 ай бұрын
@@Mammo_NZbecause he knows it’s bullshit
@Mammo_NZ
@Mammo_NZ 8 ай бұрын
@@icecoldjohnnyy i disagree
@UltimateADHDUser
@UltimateADHDUser 8 ай бұрын
@@Mammo_NZ Dude. You only play battle royale. Stay in your lane and us in ours. lol
@ItsRexxys
@ItsRexxys 8 ай бұрын
​@@Mammo_NZ bet ur a sbmm fan
@КГБКолДжорджКостанца
@КГБКолДжорджКостанца 8 ай бұрын
SBMM is basically one of the reasons COD isn't worth playing
@Lucas-m11
@Lucas-m11 8 ай бұрын
its literally the only reason I dont play cod anymore. Last one i played was mw2 and was sitting at a mediocre 1.3kd but every game was just a sweat fest unless i played with lower kd friends
@Qysto
@Qysto 8 ай бұрын
@@Lucas-m11KD barely factors into matchmaking in my experience. I have some friends who are considerably worse than me but they have a higher W/L and KD ratio
@asapch4669
@asapch4669 8 ай бұрын
@@Qysto what does that even mean though? What are they lucky then? That isn't possible and doesn't make sense. Even back with little to no skill-based, better players had better stats and it's that simple.
@Qysto
@Qysto 8 ай бұрын
@@asapch4669 they camp, basically. They have much lower skill in terms of accuracy, aiming, movement etc and I would consistently destroy them in a 1v1, but because they play so slowly and hold angles they perform better, at least in terms of KD (not in any other metric). When I play with them I notice a considerable difference between our lobbies. They might go positive more frequently than I do when we play solo, but I absolutely stomp in their lobbies when I play with them. That’s why I said it barely factors in, it takes a whole lot more than just your KD into account.
@Tobey_Maguire-
@Tobey_Maguire- 8 ай бұрын
Think it tracks the way you move in game too. @@Qysto
@dom4063
@dom4063 8 ай бұрын
No upload today 😞
@xDakmia
@xDakmia 8 ай бұрын
appreciate you Jev for keeping it real through all these years
@MrWatchowtnow
@MrWatchowtnow 8 ай бұрын
Whats with all the ball sucking? I don't get it.
@daylightdies7194
@daylightdies7194 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that jev can articulate what I for the most part think as well
@GaryDoom
@GaryDoom 8 ай бұрын
They will never admit their current matchmaking system has been a huge failure.
@ComradeMad
@ComradeMad 8 ай бұрын
Love the fact that I can watch Jev explain these so I don’t have to go find them
@_jaded
@_jaded 8 ай бұрын
It’s usually best to do your own research but Jev is pretty on point 99.9% of the time
@FinancialStorm7
@FinancialStorm7 8 ай бұрын
Id literally rather them do what fortnite did and add bots. I straight up stopped playing because playing in high skill lobbies all day is unbearable to the point where my friends dont want to party up and even play. Im sure they can make bots that seam realistic and give everyone the lobbies they "want".
@lazcoroner1483
@lazcoroner1483 8 ай бұрын
If people keep playing, COD will never change/improve.
@Drewkungfoo
@Drewkungfoo 8 ай бұрын
Which is why I will stop playing now, they’ve lost me now.
@Drewkungfoo
@Drewkungfoo 8 ай бұрын
Just let the morons that keep buying their overpriced Bundles and stupid ahh Black Cell and support the Scummy Business Practices
@itsjustcrimson1415
@itsjustcrimson1415 8 ай бұрын
Not gonna happen
@bulletghost3452
@bulletghost3452 8 ай бұрын
More like if people keep paying for skins and characters, they care when player numbers drop over time which is why they have double xp and some free bundles but when people keeping bitching about sbmm? Still playing and buying skins though, literally lambs to the slaughter.
@HarveySpecter0
@HarveySpecter0 8 ай бұрын
if there was an alternative I wouldn't. previously we had battlefield which was still different but somehow similar. Now BF just sucks.
@alley_wt
@alley_wt 8 ай бұрын
as someone who quit cod alltogether due to sbmm and hopped over to roblox phantom forces, having no sbmm makes a game alot more fun, every match youll have some people that play like shit but youll also have some sweats, sometimes more sometimes less. It is chaotic, but its a fun chaos as youre not constantly being put into lobbies that play like its some fucking ranked tournament
@speedietruck4861
@speedietruck4861 8 ай бұрын
They said “ping is king” but then later on say that having good players in lobbies with bad players is bad. They aren’t slick with their lies 🤦‍♂️
@maxdrags3115
@maxdrags3115 8 ай бұрын
How is that a lie? You are just stupid.
@kingpeso4240
@kingpeso4240 8 ай бұрын
They are stupid
@TJC1212
@TJC1212 8 ай бұрын
Don’t you love it when the Company of a franchise you love actively addresses a problem the entire community hates because not everyone wants to go pro, and tells you to just f- off? So tired of these triple AAA company’s no passion anymore just profit
@allroundgamerog6885
@allroundgamerog6885 8 ай бұрын
I don’t love cod I tolerate it
@robertpatterson8437
@robertpatterson8437 8 ай бұрын
@@allroundgamerog6885 Go live your life.
@Patel-Chirag-Gupta
@Patel-Chirag-Gupta 8 ай бұрын
​@@allroundgamerog6885thats big man.. thats fucking huge. Thanks for this.
@theunderdog9353
@theunderdog9353 8 ай бұрын
It's why it feels so good to play Palworld instead of CoD now :)
@fartmaster6977
@fartmaster6977 8 ай бұрын
​@@Patel-Chirag-Guptathat's what she said
@CaptainQH
@CaptainQH 8 ай бұрын
6:39 “You do well a couple of times, the game thinks you’re Scump” This 100% is true.
@alexchng
@alexchng 8 ай бұрын
When I was a League of Legends player many years ago, I remember Riot putting out a statement on why they refused to make URF a permanent game mode. URF (where cooldowns were reduced by 80%, and spells cost no mana) was fun as hell, but Riot discovered that players would get burnt out and eventually lose interest in returning to the standard game mode. I suppose that's why Activision won't let us have access to Shipment all the time
@Vojvoda-d8k
@Vojvoda-d8k 8 ай бұрын
but league does it best you have normals and you have ranked you can test champs builds tactics and have fun in normals aram and then you go sweat on ranked vs players same skill lvl as you but in cod you have 2 ranked modes thats just painful
@alexchng
@alexchng 8 ай бұрын
@@Vojvoda-d8k yeah, I wasn't really commenting on the SBMM portion of the conversation. It is fucking ridiculous to weight skill that much in a normal playlist, when ranked play exists. Crazy
@Cold84
@Cold84 8 ай бұрын
I don't get this cause all anyone wants to play shipment for is to level guns up. I don't know anyone that actually plays the real call of duty game for fun, everyone uses it as a stepping stone for warzone.
@RealEllenDeGeneres
@RealEllenDeGeneres 8 ай бұрын
They limit Shipment because their whole business model is built on artificial scarcity. They lock content behind progression and then offer ways to buy progression via skins (which unlock the attachments/guns associated with them automatically) and XP tokens in the battle passes. If they had Shipment 24/7 then people wouldn't be as incentivized to make these purchases. If multiplayer was f2p I'd consider this fine, but it's scummy to do this for a paid title. It's double dipping.
@YourSoSeezy
@YourSoSeezy 8 ай бұрын
@@Vojvoda-d8k Normal's in league have SBMM... its just the league community generally understands normals is for fun / testing. whereas with COD PUBS are everything, K/D is everything W/L is everything...
@wjjohns04able
@wjjohns04able 8 ай бұрын
SBHR may not be a part of their “match making” system, but it sure as hell is at work. If you think they go to these lengths to keep bad players playing the game and you don’t believe their patents for real-time nerfing etc. aren’t being utilized, then you prob have a really good gaming chair and you aren’t getting effected. The proof is overwhelming at this point.
@DizzyRewind
@DizzyRewind 8 ай бұрын
If they would just be honest and tell us how it is I could respect that. The fact they continue to frame that everything is about the player and even go as far as trying to make you feel bad for leaving a game is despicable.
@gansito6154
@gansito6154 8 ай бұрын
I agree the lying, the gaslighting, and manipulation makes it so much worse specially now that it's out in the open and there's so much proof and people are opening their eyes. It's just plain greed
@SteezinBreezin
@SteezinBreezin 8 ай бұрын
"Connection" Every 5 seconds.. "Packet burst, packet lost"
@liamfrr
@liamfrr 8 ай бұрын
i think thats just your internet not being good for the servers, im assuming you dont lag on other games?
@SteezinBreezin
@SteezinBreezin 8 ай бұрын
@@liamfrr nope. I don’t lag on other games. And I don’t lag in COD. And it only happens when I’m about to kill someone. It’s more frequent in Shipment maps. Other maps don’t do that so much. And I usually always die when it happens.
@LowTierScrub
@LowTierScrub 8 ай бұрын
​@SteezinBreezin yes always happens as you lock onto someone, big lag spike dead. Game works perfect until you need a certain kill then packets uou 😢😢
@SteezinBreezin
@SteezinBreezin 8 ай бұрын
@@LowTierScrubyes. Again mostly on small maps. I usually run and gun with a sniper but on shipment it happens so much I have to slow my play style down.
@V4LOROUS_Official
@V4LOROUS_Official 8 ай бұрын
“Ping is 1 of 8 princes” that got me real good hahahaha
@richardbixler
@richardbixler 8 ай бұрын
CoD Community: “This game is getting more and more inconsistent and it just feels off. Maybe those patents are real?” CoD: “Hey you guys, I don’t like you guys talking about this! Can we just talk about SBMM like the good old days?”
@Cam1an
@Cam1an 8 ай бұрын
the moment we called them out for not saying anything on SBMM when they said they would, they say some BS. they F'ing lying. just talking out the ass knowing they just HAVE TO say something. PS F this game, I WANT PALWORLD! lol
@toothpicka1468
@toothpicka1468 8 ай бұрын
Palworld till gta 6 this cod is the best gameplay wise in a long time but us regular 9-5 dudes and gals don’t wanna have to sweat and rage why even add ranked play I feel like I’ve been playing ranked since it released. And to you Wawa hoagie fest smelling basement dwellers y’all can hate all you want. Look at the steam chart it clearly shows a majority feels the same way.
@santegrossi5816
@santegrossi5816 8 ай бұрын
This video is so important and needs to be seen by more of the community
@captain_squiddy
@captain_squiddy 8 ай бұрын
Every 6 months I hop on cod, and my matchmaking is immediately all level 1000s. I can’t even casually play the the game every once in a while because sbmm never resets after months of not playing
@ArteriusSaren
@ArteriusSaren 8 ай бұрын
4:27. Jev is old enough to remember Halo 3 and it's perfect matchmaking. Never ever had a problem with Halo 3.
@lostinthesystem656
@lostinthesystem656 8 ай бұрын
9:20 is why i love jev aint no one holding him down lmao
@pranavhb1716
@pranavhb1716 8 ай бұрын
Skillbased hit registration and damage is real
@abouley3
@abouley3 8 ай бұрын
I love how he had to explain why he was good at call of duty in the beginning for all the new subs from palworld🤣
@mystical6367
@mystical6367 8 ай бұрын
It’s funny cuz they are right. Every pro or good player, Jev included, who complain about SBMM don’t stop playing. They will complain but then just instantly boot up another match.
@51Archives
@51Archives 8 ай бұрын
SBMM Started in BO2 League Play, They're just trying to shut up the players complaining about it by saying it was in COD4
@alexm6715
@alexm6715 8 ай бұрын
They can say that as much as they want, doesn’t change the fact that the experience playing COD4 did not show any evidence of sbmm
@51Archives
@51Archives 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, And thats what made the older CODs fun was because there was none of that shit@@alexm6715
@alpenjodel24
@alpenjodel24 8 ай бұрын
Thats because with COD4 lobby-internal skill matching started. You remember, after a very one-sided game of MW/MW2 the lobby would not disband but the teams would get scrambled to even out? They use that system (which was PERFECT in my opinion) as an excuse that SBMM was always there. I loved that system so much. Rivals would become teammates and vice versa, such a good time.
@excelsian512
@excelsian512 8 ай бұрын
Didn't expect anything less from a company that supports lgbtabcdefg...
@ElectriCarry
@ElectriCarry 8 ай бұрын
They make enough money and don’t see sales dropping so they don’t need to fix it sadly
@Iord
@Iord 8 ай бұрын
This is why I can't take cod seriously anymore
@coltontaylor4572
@coltontaylor4572 8 ай бұрын
They need a poll. For SBMM Against SBMM Whichever wins stays or goes
@Mammo_NZ
@Mammo_NZ 8 ай бұрын
Would never happen. They see from their data it would mean less players, and less money.
@adnsalazar2
@adnsalazar2 8 ай бұрын
​@@Mammo_NZ they are lying thats why they are talking about sbmm but not eomm
@KaiserNightcoreMusic
@KaiserNightcoreMusic 8 ай бұрын
@@adnsalazar2 EOMM is just that another level of boogeyman under the bed that i doubt they will ever address it.
@slugzz-
@slugzz- 8 ай бұрын
Ex cod developer, Brian bright said they full of 💩
@KingSlay-hy9iv
@KingSlay-hy9iv 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I knew it was too good to be true 😩Jev can never finish a series 😂😂 (it’s a joke 😉)
@allroundgamerog6885
@allroundgamerog6885 8 ай бұрын
1 day and u say this gosh u guys are idiots🤦🏾‍♂️ (this is also a joke🙃)
@KingSlay-hy9iv
@KingSlay-hy9iv 8 ай бұрын
@@allroundgamerog6885 😂😂
@OutsideDuhBox
@OutsideDuhBox 8 ай бұрын
Once a game turns into a business, it is pretty much over for that franchise 😔
@MrKnow1Knows
@MrKnow1Knows 8 ай бұрын
11:00 “Ping is not King. Ping is one of eight princes” 🤣
@saucyrage5756
@saucyrage5756 8 ай бұрын
“What are you gonna do? YOU CANT STOP ME!!” -Jev Bruh that is the quote that I would live by for the rest of this year an absolute dog❤
@K1NGST0N13
@K1NGST0N13 8 ай бұрын
U gonna be posting Palworld content soon? Luv that game, keep it up
@alsorick9
@alsorick9 8 ай бұрын
dawg it’s been 2 days relax💀
@tire_iron488
@tire_iron488 8 ай бұрын
stops posting palworld for a day and you get children asking if he's gonna continue. wtf.
@iiBeasttt
@iiBeasttt 8 ай бұрын
@@tire_iron488 thats how u know the game is good, i also would rather watch the palworld videos too...
@tire_iron488
@tire_iron488 8 ай бұрын
@@iiBeasttt it'll die in a few months bro.
@iiBeasttt
@iiBeasttt 8 ай бұрын
@@tire_iron488 literally pokemon with guns, yknow how big the pokemon community is?
@PoolarStyle
@PoolarStyle 8 ай бұрын
The words “multiplayer matchmaking” and “a fun experience” haven't fit in the same sentence for many years
@paddyjames14
@paddyjames14 8 ай бұрын
i remember when the call of duty franchise was an arcade shooter that you could play to let some steam off or have a laugh with your buddies, what happened to the game we love man.
@newfinishautospa
@newfinishautospa 8 ай бұрын
What do you mean you “don’t believe” what is written by a company in its US patents? Thanks for also providing a report that gives absolutely nothing of value to your audience. Nobody cares about your opinion. We only care about factual information and as far as facts go, we only have the US patents filed by the company regarding the issues at hand.
@Equifor01
@Equifor01 8 ай бұрын
THE TRUTH, Jev you’re the best!
@BladesGTS
@BladesGTS 8 ай бұрын
Sadly it will never go away unless XDefiant does really well they might do it just to try and kill the enemy
@Wvuf.
@Wvuf. 8 ай бұрын
They shouldn’t try to rank our public games/ non ranked games, makes no sense, we’re basically playing ranked without a rank
@rayciaf
@rayciaf 8 ай бұрын
It’s like the casino putting out a statement to gambling addicts who are mad at the slot machines.
@SancLunatic
@SancLunatic 8 ай бұрын
Bunch of lies. They say SBMM matches you according to your skill level. I guess the game thinks Im a sweaty MLG player then.
@r1skr3ward90
@r1skr3ward90 8 ай бұрын
One of the easiest fixes they could do to ease the sbmm pressure is keeping lobbies together after games
@monkefard2869
@monkefard2869 8 ай бұрын
this reminds me of college writing a load of bs to get to the word count
@sey3217
@sey3217 8 ай бұрын
Biggest “Deal with it” of the century
@brodydentinger5863
@brodydentinger5863 8 ай бұрын
theres ways to make sure rookie players don't get shit on constantly without pulling everyone's experiences down as a result lol. How is completly removing your progression system (seeing your K/D improve / seeing yourself appearing higher on the match results over time), a solution ?
@Cold84
@Cold84 8 ай бұрын
I really can't comprehend how skill is involved in sbmm at all. I have felt for a long time it is all about how much you play the game, the more you play the game the more it puts you into harder lobbies. I remember in wz1, I was on console, had like a 0.9 kd and the warzone stat website said all my games had an average of 1.3-1.7 kds, in games nearly double my kd as the average player in the game. It was so frustrating I was so ass at the game and it put me against what felt like all these crackheads, I tried to get good but I wasn't. Meanwhile, I looked up Aydan's same stats and he was getting consistently 0.7 kd games, I think I remember one being like 1.3 but he has less kills in it so it reflected how hard my lobbies felt. I couldn't understand it how I was put in those lobbies and it was so frustrating to watch streamers play these lobbies I should be in and they get fucking 40 kills in them. I wanted to play the game they played, but my experience was getting dumpstered every game. Even tho I was addicted to the game, I reached a point where it was just too hard and I didn't want to do it anymore. I came back years later and my stat kd average was way lower in lobbies I would have been competitive in when I actually liked the game. I feel like if it were about skill my lobbies would have normalized to my kd and they never did. I still don't know how streamers get such easy lobbies, we can't tell their kd lobbies anymore cause cod shut that down, and I don't think they all vpn tho some certainly do, so there is something else going on with that imo. When people complain about sbmm, I ask them if this is the only game they play, they always say yes. I think of sbmm to be the game challenging you to see how many hard lobbies you can handle until you quit, if you have the willpower to just stop, play another game, and come back to it your lobbies will be easy again. This is my experience with sbmm, that the best gaming experience is to quit when it's too hard and come back later when sbmm feels like it resets.
@salvadortorres568
@salvadortorres568 8 ай бұрын
bro Aydan is one of the best to ever play the game, it would be tough to fill an entire lobby with people like him. Of course they have to find players at that given time when Aydan cues up. you said you took off years plus the game is popular, you can imagine it being easier to fill a lobby with people who are going to play better. I can imagine that being harder when everybody is quitting because they don't know how to get better or have a team. Ranked warzone and mp there for a reason?
@jakestratus2247
@jakestratus2247 8 ай бұрын
@@salvadortorres568 The time your playing does matter, but like OP, i compared my lobbies to big streamers dropping 30 kills a game and its laughable. They have 3+kd but get 0.6 lobbies while i would be in consistent 1+ kd lobbies (Playing at the same time) with my 1.2-1.4 kd. If they can find a 1.0 lobby for me they can find at least that for a 3.0 "pro".
@salvadortorres568
@salvadortorres568 8 ай бұрын
i feel like all the factors are important, the gap from 1.0 to 3.0 kd is insane. 2.5 2.2 2.0 kds are high and rare. On the other hand there might be lower kds on hot streaks getting into lower lobbies. if everybody quits or stops trying , no matter what lobby you join whatever kd , there wont be enough people in each class @@jakestratus2247
@jody_highroller
@jody_highroller 8 ай бұрын
Note the VERY specific and intentional wording of "does matchmaking impact hit reg..." "our MATCHMAKING process does not impact gameplay" Legally correct, a system that toyed with what happens IN a game ( aka AFTER a match has been found) would be completely separate.
@Psiballl
@Psiballl 8 ай бұрын
All these factors in the matchmaking system and somehow I still end up losing 10 games in a row.
@eiontactics9056
@eiontactics9056 8 ай бұрын
There is a hidden SR in Ranked Play. Like a Ranking System within a ranking system. The visual rank is an illusion. Let's say you are a really good player. You will start in bronze and ONLY face other good players in bronze, silver, etc. Every match is very hard. A bad player will only play bad players and can earn up to platinum or diamond just like you, but didn't have to face the good people and four stacks you had to... to EARN the rank. So, in other words... ranked is an illusion. You will have a bad player get platinum for instance... because their games were easier than yours... something needs to change.
@DogMakingSausage
@DogMakingSausage 8 ай бұрын
Sbmm, the reason why i haven't played the last 2 cods. I'm not wasting money on those games anymore
@OGzoose
@OGzoose 8 ай бұрын
git gud
@callumr3554
@callumr3554 8 ай бұрын
@@OGzoosehe is gud. Thats the issue
@LunaPPK
@LunaPPK 8 ай бұрын
@@OGzoose gitin good is a net negative in CoD now lol but i am sure you in the protected class
@Zedav
@Zedav 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate Jev is realistic and explains what they actually meant
@hunterborghi5335
@hunterborghi5335 8 ай бұрын
Keep in mind to that when you look at the steam charts it's not just call of duty modern warfare 3 it's mw2, wz, and DMZ even know they don't support it anymore. Bobby Kodak said in court that a large percent of the player base comes from mobile then the next biggest percent is about 25 that comes from PC and then about 15 to 16% on PlayStation and then about 7% on Xbox. The game is dead.
@Monkeylighthouse
@Monkeylighthouse 8 ай бұрын
Im thankful every day for finding jevs channel.
@vaporition
@vaporition 8 ай бұрын
high profile streamers have posted vids of AI Bots in WZ3 just the past few weeks... Activision saying they've never done that when we've had Krampus, as well as Fortunes Keep AI enemies, which many people believed Activision Call of Duty was testing AI Bots against the player base for future implementation, is just asinine. Now we actually have weird moments in WZ3 where players are running into AI clearly malfunctioning, running across the map looking straight up, jumping up and laying down on the edge of the map as if engaged in a firefight but there's no-one around... to pretend this Activision response is in any way credible is the same disservice engaged in bc they simply put out a response due to Content Creators repeatedly posting about the answers they were promised but never got
@noahcalhoun3964
@noahcalhoun3964 8 ай бұрын
3:21 Activision- "Hold my beer"
@jjhewi10
@jjhewi10 8 ай бұрын
No no no, SBMM is detrimental to ranked play. My friends should be able to hang in my lobbies when we are the same rank. There is 0! Reason that our lobbies are a night and day difference. So much so that we just can’t play with each other. So much so that it takes 5 min to find a match because of the skill gap between us when we are the same rank. Second, how is that fair at all??? It’s ranked! Why should my lobbies be harder! How is that even ranked play! It should be based on rank!!!! That’s it!
@EliteReclaims
@EliteReclaims 8 ай бұрын
I literally felt like standing up and clapping after watching this video, your a legend Jev :D
@jmpertl
@jmpertl 8 ай бұрын
You're**
@pricklycats
@pricklycats 8 ай бұрын
It’s not your legend, it’s our legend
@EliteReclaims
@EliteReclaims 8 ай бұрын
@@pricklycats Lol true
@EliteReclaims
@EliteReclaims 8 ай бұрын
You're*
@NotGetRichTv
@NotGetRichTv 8 ай бұрын
3:20 I’m not sure how much experience you have in the competitive scene but there is ABSOLUTELY an issue with matchmaking in ranked. There’s a blatant MMR rating for every single person who plays COD regardless whether it’s ranked or multiplayer. Say you have two players, one who is highly skilled and one who is awful. Both players would NEVER face each other in the EXACT same rank. If the highly skilled player were to go from bronze to iridescent , every single game from bronze and up would be exactly the same competition of a iridescent game the entire way up because of that players MMR rating. That means that if both players achieve for example diamond rank which is very possible for average players with this system. The significantly lower skilled diamond player isn’t really a diamond player because the game itself is fixed. This means that the rankings themselves aren’t actually true or accurate. It’s a ranked system inside of a ranked system which hands out participation trophy awards to make people feel better. Which isn’t genuinely beneficial to anyone. The entire point of ranked is to earn a legitimate rank based on skill and beating others in your current rank at random without the game completely influencing who’s going to win. Love the content @jev
@mxixkxexyx
@mxixkxexyx 8 ай бұрын
Terraria expertmode playthrough 🙏♥ (day:156)
@Francidarkknight
@Francidarkknight 8 ай бұрын
I have quit because of sbmm and I will enjoy my life without cod, thanks cod devs
@mattgrassi5293
@mattgrassi5293 8 ай бұрын
Rip Palworld it was good while it lasted
They broke CALL OF DUTY and somehow it's better
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