they ALMOST had it | Razer Huntsman V2 TKL Optical Clicky & Linear Review

Razer sent me two of their Razer Huntsman V2 TKLs to review. Both their optical clicky and linear switches to try out! I was really excited to use this keyboard for whenever I played games, but well... guess I'm not :/
Razer: www.razer.com/
Huntsman V2 TKL Linear: www.razer.com/sg-en/gaming-ke...
Huntsman V2 TKL Clicky: www.razer.com/sg-en/gaming-ke...
input-polling-test: github.com/ad8e/input-polling...
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction & Basic Info
00:57 First Impressions
01:46 What it is and What it's not
02:17 What I like
03:13 What I don't like
03:44 Optical Clicky Purple Switch
04:49 Optical Linear Red Switch Gen2
06:43 Pretty Misleading
07:21 8000hz?
09:21 Final thoughts
10:11 Extra notes while editing + End
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Ending Song | Omoi - Teo (remix by rN www.yuugenp.xyz/)
Thanks for watching!

[@GammaLoop111]

The Huntsman V2 Analog had the potential to be my #1 keyboard. Just the feel of the switches was the absolute best. It wore out in less than a month. For a $250 USD keyboard I found that pretty quick. My #1 is the Steel Series Apex Pro for sure! Great review, and I'm looking forward to rewatching it later!

[@GammaLoop111]

@@echoeee Hello! Hope you have a great day!

[@tokaku]

does the V2 analog use non-dampened linear switches? I saw the images and their switches were black and I think I didn't see any dampeners?

[@GammaLoop111]

@@tokaku I will do some surgery and check! I know nothing about keyboards, so I will do my best!

[@fachriramadhan1016]

@@GammaLoop111 ey gamma hope you pass that camellia song on adofai

[@randocat6590]

@@GammaLoop111 hey there big fan

[@opsoo2229]

The fact that she gives up getting free keyboards just so she can be honest is insane

[@ms.yawhaw8831]

Yay

[@Merrulas]

There will be others companies that are going to try their luck I’m sure

[@cubegamebuild]

Some companies like this so they may keep sending her keyboards because of honest opinions

[@MichaelEhrmantraut12]

Not if you consider the amount of keyboards this woman already owns

[@leehongjin6884]

Yah earned a sub from me

[@esuta3472]

sponsor: *sends stuff* tokaku: i'm sponsored, but i'm not getting any money. but i'll do it anyway

[@donyx0604]

the story of tokaku sponsors

[@ms.yawhaw8831]

Blobbb

[@mr-not-so-creative]

thats how it goes quite a lot with keyboard reviewers keyboard gets send over for free and the reviewer is allowed to keep their honest opinion

[@chocolatelattenate]

I thought I was having a fever dream because I couldn't find the 36 switches video on your channel anymore. Glad to know I'm not actually going insane. Please publish that video again, it genuinely is helpful!

[@Dezron]

Same, why was it privated?

[@Dezron]

Nvm, i found out why

[@miyo2404]

@@Dezron why :?

[@Dezron]

@@miyo2404 go to tokaku's community tab and find out why, it was posted 3 months ago. Im bad at explaining stuffs xD

[@miyo2404]

@@Dezron thx :3

[@estyess]

I really enjoy these review type videos, I would say you're good at making them and that they're very interesting/entertaining. Keep it up!

[@ziiisu8127]

the moment you said this on 9:17, I set my mouse polling rate from 1000hz to 500hz and its really fix my stuttering problems on osu. Thanks a lot!

[@stefanivanov8754]

Very professional and honest review. It's been a great help. Thank you!

[@Wodkaholic]

I got the original Huntsman TKL and so far I'm enjoying it without any complaints. I got it on sale for around $79 US which is worth it compared to the $200+ options out there.

[@shimshar_]

if you want to do more research into keyboard latency, you should look into keyboard matrix polling rates. Many of the gamer keyboards advertising themselves as "1000hz USB polling rate" will only have an internal matrix scan rate of 128hz. This is the speed that the microcontroller on the PCB checks the "matrix" of keyswitches to see what is being pressed - if you have 1000hz polling rate, it won't save you if the matrix scan rate is 128hz. The reason most cheap keyboards don't go beyond 128hz is because of the "debounce time" of switches. Regular cherry MX switches have around 5ms of debounce time, which is the time it takes for you to be able to read a clear signal from a keyswitch once it's pressed. 128hz gives around 8ms between each input scan so it dodges this problem this is why razer uses optical switches in their 8000hz keyboards - their debounce time is near 0, which lets you get much higher matrix scan rates and much higher USB polling rates with it actually making a difference. There are also ways to get higher matrix scan rates with non-optical switches, avoiding the debounce time problem, but they're much more complicated. These are the techniques corsair uses in their keyboards that say they use "AXON Hyper-processing technology" and also have 8000hz. This way of doing things is probably better because it lets you get high matrix scan rates while still using non-optical switches, which is much cheaper than using these optical switches. (k65 mini is less than half the price of this keyboard and also has 0.1ms latency). just thought u might find interesting since it's something that i've done alot of research on and i see you mention keyboard polling rates alot^

[@zed6693]

So k65 is the fastest?

[@bryanchan420]

man, you are knowledgeable, I had mad respect for your non-bullshit explain, short and concise!!!! THANKS

[@chrisgordon86]

"k65 mini is less than half the price of this keyboard" ok now that I've stopped just shaking my head, no it depends where you live as to how much the relative cost is for different brands.

[@Captain_Toasty]

@@zed6693 no they're the same speed

[@user-pg7dh7xe3b]

Gk61 vs apex 9 vs apex pro vs huntsman v2 ?

[@burger1113]

Solid content! Just came across the channel today and it's looking better than most.

[@tokaku]

aw thank you!

[@Glarses]

Almost, huh

[@Hr-ws1hy]

Glarses huh

[@yogtsb]

Abdulla Abdulla and Glarses, huh

[@Sad_Face]

Abdulla Abdulla And Rimuru Tempest and Glarses, huh

[@iamlalala1995]

for a switch with individual stabilizer come attached, I expect a lot less wobbling. The way they wobble like that 2:23 just feels like a normal cherry switch, what's the benefit of the stab then, they just adds more rattling sound

[@ms.yawhaw8831]

Thingthing

[@CaptainShovelHead]

Probably an attempt by the original manufacturer to make these bind as little as possible.

[@arichiquabtd8092]

Razer looks way sicker now, whoa. That keyboard actually seems good.

[@M4TTYN]

very cool review, in dept and informal!

[@SendNuux]

Thanks for this. I've always wanted those kind of switches just because they look cool with the stabilizers, but now I am sold that the keyboard won't be beneficial for me or my use. I really like MX speed switches, and I think I will replace the keys on my Xtrfy K4 with those instead.

[@Catto18]

totaku: "I'll leave the link in the description" Me: *searches* there is nothing... ;-;

[@ms.yawhaw8831]

Owhkie

[@killua_thecatboy]

I likely of the typical keyboards that I've seen but this, the clicking on the keyboard is very satisfied.

[@Degenerate04]

I'm not generally a fan of razer, but this keyboard I got for christmas is great! Would love to see a review of it. It's only like 50 bucks it's called the Ornata v2 and it basically combines the best of both worlds of mechanical and membrane. It has the quietness and super fast debounce time of membrane but the great tactileness (if that's the right word) of mechanical.

[@TraeldornTech]

I had that keyboard too. It’s pretty great for anyone on a budget that likes a clicky keyboard.

[@sehawunpeh7219]

the razer red linears were actually linears on the huntsman elite but when they put foam and changed thw switch a little in the hunstamn mini and huntsman tkl it just became silent and very unsatisfying to press. should try the huntsman elite with the red linears, their really quick

[@nisem0no]

I find that the linear switches with the added dampening negatively impact how quickly I can press the key. I sorta wish they'd just go back to the pingy linear keyboards they had, like the original Huntsman TKL.

[@nixionnn]

haven't watched but I already know its gonna be good!

[@TheNoobzoid]

I got the clicky optical TKL huntsman v2. fucking awesome keyboard. I was worried about the switches and stabs being bad in stock form. but honestly. it's pretty good for stock already. no much modding needed. could pad the stabs a bit but even without, it's solid.

[@buysharp]

Wow! 8000hz. Razer is stepping up their game performance wise! If only they made the switches and keyboard feel and sound nice. That would make a huge difference.

[@evermythic9480]

@@plumbirb8444 Probably rhythm game players or something

[@ghostrider7828]

Yeah the performance are good but the sound and the switch are bad

[@sillowillo]

@@evermythic9480 You really don't need anything over 1k.

[@dive_whale]

@@plumbirb8444 i do agree that realistically, for rhythm games you don't need anything over 1000hz, but the argument that the best players don't use anything over 1000hz doesn't work when there is only 2(i think) 8000hz keyboards and they were both released in the past year. anything above 1000hz is useless for rhythm games, having a keyboard with no chord-splitting is way way way more important factor for a good rhythm game keyboard.

[@M4TTYN]

they ain't really upping much only usual Razer things *buzz words* to usual Razer apple like pricing. and all the taste in gear is a opinion to just keep searching you'll find what suits you! *remember all them and the Switches and such don't honestly matter* don't gotta lube, add switch films, o-rings (dunno if many dislike those again a opinion) and so on to you're case's material and so on to DYI > pre builts imo. Razer and them will keep trying! just gotta wait and see.

[@nahnvm8493]

3:15 It looks like that because it’s PBT. You can only get good shine-through on ABS

[@brian770]

i have the full size huntsman v2, and i love it, not everybody like quiet keys, for me the noise is just right with the purple switches.

[@mistaboogeyba3358]

I would like to hear your opinion about the RedDragon K552 Kumara. It’s considered the best budget mechanical keyboards at $30, but I’m not sure how good it is for rhythm games and stuff.

[@cucumberdragon]

how do i fix my razer huntsman te keyboard the backspace and lshift gets stuck bruh

[@kaleksiosu]

Love ur reviews, thank u

[@calamidasosu3477]

I get the "you feel like you are hitting bricks" really much lol. First time I got it I was so used to cherry mx red that it literally hurt my fingers since I'm a mania player. I couldn't play with it so I just left it abandoned in a corner. Then my cherry mx keyboard got water inside it aaaaand.... had to use what I had but, after I got used to it, I've never liked a keyboard so much before, and now it just feels smooth, I don't lift my fingers that much now and thdy are so light I almost feel as if I have unlimited stamina, 8.7/10 for my review.

[@Jonagysha]

Finally someone talks about 8k polling rate!! Nicee

[@purplekush8912]

excellent video great quality thanks a lot

[@natty8678]

at 1:00 whats the stream deck thing on the left?

[@seaywhat9046]

I actually use the huntsman 60% with linear switches and I really like it lol. I do mostly only play first person shooters though, and do minor typing for schoolwork, though not too much because I'm an engineering student so most of my typing is with a numpad.

[@KanyeFan90210]

Awesome!

[@jswitch3005]

Is there really any difference to 8k and 1k polling rate? Once tried 8k and didnt really seem too much diff from 1k

[@tokaku]

only would affect the HIGHEST accuracy players in the world, pretty much less than the number of fingers on my hands. It would only apply to etterna as well, since they use millisecond based scoring

[@griftgfx]

I don't think Razer would be mad at this review. It's pretty fair and it's just not for you. I'm still interested in the linear model, but I'm definitely more on the fence than before.

[@kee3491]

Tryna decide If the 288AUD is worth it for this or not lmfao I’m probably going to get the black widow V3 Tkl but might consider it. Thank u for u review (mostly I’m looking for the sound and latency btw)

[@teero121]

2:00 wait what you mean is there an different program to configure the lighting effects other than synapse?

[@tokaku]

their chroma software I believe? If you want more control over the LEDs other than the default

[@teero121]

@@tokaku usually everything should be within synapse. there is a tab called "studio" where you can mess around and customize every single LED. was it not there for you?

[@dotheneedful55]

I bought this keyboard specifically because I wanted something quiet and with a higher bottoming out. So all the things you hate about it are the reasons why I wanted it!

[@rywuki]

I have no idea what half of the things in this video meant but it was super entertaining nonetheless!

[@wngzz1097]

what skin for mania do you use?

[@buysharp]

Can you post the switches video on a different channel? I found that video to be somewhat useful.

[@burgerboy3005]

I liked that video, I don’t know why she would private it.

[@mbatukam69]

@Specter yeah,search her community tab 3 months ago

[@MaskedOG]

But if you have optical switches the debounce time (gamer) setting dosnt mater or?

[@drakejefferson449]

Mine does exact same thing we're pings I'm pretty sure it's just The click Bolt despite it they're still really good switches still definitely a step up from MX

[@bushyzz3634]

What polling rate would you recommend? For just general gaming like cod and mc and basic games like that?

[@Vjpkut3o]

After using razer wrist rest in summer i love it when it stick to my hand

[@dragon_lion1738]

Awsome review

[@meowspark9]

JEESSE WE NEED TO REVIEW THE KEYBOARDDDD

[@alessudot]

my silent reds in my varmilo keyboard so im not sure why it sounds so loud in the video

[@rashrush4529]

in my opinion the huntsman elite (full size) is what you shouldve gotten. i have it and i have 0 complaints. just a bit loud but i really dont mind that

[@AreJay5721]

I like the linears, i needed something fast for Call of Duty and nothing too loud cause i hate the clicks on the razer keyboard, its a solid board but again it aint for everyone.

[@rashrush4529]

@@AreJay5721 linear switches on razer aren’t too good tbh, that’s just me tho

[@AreJay5721]

@@rashrush4529 my movement in cod is very responsive, very clean, and very accurate. they probs dont feel too good cause the activation force is hella light, u can push it down like .1 centimeters and the thing activates, it took me a bit to get used to the board

[@dioxyde0]

what are the best keyboards you've used?

[@castin5244]

So there is no regular linear version? If so, that's a real shame. I've heard multiple times that the linear razer optical switches are insanely smooth, but being dampened no matter what completely kills my interest.

[@wodenbjornn137]

lol "For clicky gamers only", you may be right. I like the clicky!!! Great video, thanks for the info!

[@KoldCoffee]

hey what keyboard did you test with the 1000 pulling rate

[@plugwalkerino]

which keyboard were were you using to compare at 5:13?

[@fleckx]

Those purple switches ping more than a network tech!

[@JieXiaohui]

4:19 skin?

[@yogtsb]

Her: clicky is alright it’s not great tho Sillyfangirl: so you have chosen DEATH

[@CharlieToof]

Razer never reply to costumers is a shame, btw thank you for the nice review! I really would like to see your review of the razer deathstalker v2

[@raihanwan]

Saw the Community Post,didn’t think you would do a review lol.I would use Razer Products if: 1. I wasn’t on MacOS 2. My father’s desktop wasn’t old

[@memes_gbc674]

there are razer drivers for mac but they're dogshit compared to the windows one

[@evilsmileyface]

@@plumbirb8444 or get an entry level custom keyboard

[@memes_gbc674]

@@plumbirb8444 some people prefer macbooks and they're entirely capable of gaming. who tf cares if someone has a mac or windows pc

[@hdhwhjshsujwhdh3805]

In the switches list the optimal Red has less bottom Out distance than Cherry why U say it has more

[@rhyzap]

That keyboard looks nice i like the clicky one more

[@Bizyze]

You are a real professional when it comes to keyboards. I really need the advice of a very knowleadgable person in keyboards. I bought the razer huntsman mini and then I heard of the woothing 60e. I want to say that I have really low experience with expensive keyboards but for whatever reason my vulcan roccat tkl feels nicer and more premium on touch - could be the back, the case etc, maybe its because its plastic and its more user friendly? than the razer huntsman mini. (i have the purple switches on my razer and no analog ones atm) - paid 120$ for it My question is, if I buy the woothing do you think it will be a change in percieved build quality since I head its made by plastic? Is it worth doing the upgrade? The most important things for me is performance and build quality. (woothing is 180$ in my country) -

[@dioramos9016]

I completely gave up on mechanical keyboards. When i had one once for osu taiko, i noticed something funny...sometimes hitting normaly, sometimes extremely late, so i correct it by hitting earlier to balance off the hits, and then i miss of hitting too early. The inputs were extremely inconsistent, maybe keys too high and never learned on how to play at one of these. I played with it a pretty long time and never got used to that, so i bought an keyboard, that has low key height and low push force to hit. Like i need it since i play 270bpm maps lol. But i still think it could be better so i have no perfect keyboard

[@inv41id]

Maybe you could try a low profile mechanical? High quality membranes feel pretty good too

[@tokaku]

flat membrane keyboards for osu taiko generally feels better and helps with speed more than mechanical keyboards. for other rhythm game things like mania, mechanical is a more comfortable choice for most

[@escano2]

yo tokaku this might just me, but I'm for some reason unable to find the link to your 36 switch video. if its alright with you or anyone reading this comment, can you please link me the video?

[@M4TTYN]

hide it for the louts keypad of which is not worth to the company is scummy was major drama about it player emilia called them out to many top players repping them as you'd expect did not *unsure of tho* so don't quote me on that to orders didn't ship iirc (if i recall correctly) so mini and quick TLDR to can check the communy post she did 3 months ago on it.

[@Agent_Alpha]

the Purple Clicky spacebar sounds like a sword fight lmao

[@lemonadestandclips3349]

phage

[@Agent_Alpha]

@@lemonadestandclips3349 lemonade stand

[@RapidTrigger]

skills depends more than the switches themselves because i am a mania player with clicky switches

[@voided764]

" i like how rough it is" tokaku 2021

[@Xx8a56xX]

where is the input polling test link?

[@tokaku]

oh yeah I forgot to add it, the description is updated now

[@johnalmighty]

Would you prefer linear over optical?

[@rekkriendo]

what is the black high profile red switch keyboard?

[@user-bx9sg1qr9x]

in the video? filco majestouch

[@zelenpixel]

ok i got very distracted by the mouse here because i appear to have the same one just black !!

[@alejandropolar9243]

tokaku: "This is kind of like those cheap keyboards except it's not as bad as the cheap keyboards where they straight up don't even connect circles". me: *_i through they made it that way to look cooler_*

[@probablysomeone1111]

is it okay if you unprivate the 24 switches video?

[@nahranayrr7695]

I wonder how affected the CPU usage for this keyboard is at 8000hz setting? maybe if i buy it, i'll just put it on 2000hz, this is already in my basket plan and don't you worry about it because of this, it's just a matter of paying

[@Vanalos]

Coming from a rubberdome, the V2 linear felt really nice. Take that as you will, guys.

[@DGneoseeker1]

Since I'm considering replacing a damaged G510 with the V2 linear, this is helpful...

[@shinejnn2]

Wooting or this guys? Which is better

[@Lunar_Astra]

2:32 Tokaku: But i- i like how rough it is Me: are we talking about the keyboard or- My mom: YOU NEED JESUS!

[@jpraczbr8413]

heh, i thought the same thing....

[@Lunar_Astra]

@@jpraczbr8413 😳

[@dioxyde0]

cringe

[@Lunar_Astra]

@@dioxyde0 did i ask for your opinion though

[@dioxyde0]

@@Lunar_Astra oh no angry incel

[@PinkQueenGG]

i think i'm in love

[@Clacher24]

Does 64ms means that I have 15 hz (test) 😟

[@IamTheGoatTrustPLS]

Please tell me how to get a mania skin

[@darrensoloz4372]

Google

[@c0al]

hi tokaku-sensei, I have a question if I want to get into IIDX in 2022, what do I need to do? which IIDX controller should I buy? even though it makes me sick, is it worth it to pay Konami for the beatmania monthly game service?

[@tokaku]

if you have an arcade nearby, I don't recommend paying for the subscription service. BMS and IIDX are two separate games, but you COULD technically learn the game via BMS if you really wanted to. As for what controller you should buy, anything from gamo2 should be good. Yuancon's turntables still use acrylic and don't have a rubber turntable cover lol....

[@c0al]

@@tokaku just what I needed, thank you!

[@skyth3fn133]

My razor huntsman tournament edition look like abs keycaps with how worn down they are after only 8 onths

[@rhain9388]

Tokaku, what deskmat do you have? I like the way it looks!

[@tokaku]

GMK dots

[@rhain9388]

@@tokaku Thanks!

[@speedy8458]

What razer get: testing and free shoutout What tokaku get: free keyboard and content Nice

[@arceus413]

how does your pc not combust in flames from 8000hz

[@fraghop4123]

yours does?

[@arceus413]

@@fraghop4123 yes!!!

[@finn7402]

There is a White Mode for the Razer App! just for you

[@mikko5384]

5:28 so true!!

[@TranT-bt1lx]

can someone tell me the difference between gateron vs cherry and slient and non slient lol (i swear the slient switch sounds like membrane to me)

[@M4TTYN]

kinda none to all switch are off brand cherry switches to usual marketing to don't think you need *insert switch here* as it's "better" then cherry's or what not tho that's just me to i don't buy into the marketing fluff gaming brands use *looking at YOU ASUS & Razer* to literally all them as it's what their whole PR and marketing team's job to do trick gamers into buying their stuff!

[@user-bx9sg1qr9x]

@@M4TTYN there's nothing wrong with switches that aren't cherry. I personally think gateron switches are pretty great, they're cheap, they're smoother, yada yada. It's just that some switches are not as good as the rest... Such as silent gateron reds and the silent razer switches, those silent linears aren't as good as other silent linear switches because of the higher and mushier bottom out imo

[@kankonkio9030]

i gota say the clicky sqitches are pretty fine

[@shiion6711]

Why use speed switches when you lift your fingers so high lol

[@justlofi076]

Dayum wht a thick keyboard 👌🔥😌

[@SR_YT_1234]

Wheres the capslock light?

[@Russki007]

The capslock button itself turns white

[@kreativekid5283]

3:29 she just roasted my keyboard

[@kennethlingad]

epic review

[@onlyupdate8375]

Wow the keypoard sounds nice

[@user-dd6on5cr3u]

Damn, why are there so many comments having issues with an honest review for a sponsored product? Like damn, I want reviewers like Tokaku to get free stuff and be able to tell the truth!

[@Discediteee]

Can u try the Corsair k100

[@saffy9267]

Can’t have the clicky in white :(

[@hellomario1613]

8000 bpm songs hit different