They DON'T Count in Karate Kihon!? ｜Yusuke in Okinawa Ep.13

[@KarateDojowaKu]

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[@Brandon123456magine]

I like this version of kihon because it really teach you how to move in a certain situation. It really does make sense when you move your body just like in normal fighting and kata. And the breakdown of kata application is easy because of this method of kihon.

[@camiloiribarren1450]

We do a lot conditioning where I study Goju-ryu. Like the clashing of forearm with a partner or is done against a pole too. We do double uraken in line, and san zuri zuki where we punch face, chest and belt level. These kihon are mainly for conditioning the arms and the body. I personally love the uraken and shuto kihon movements. I also like the forearm clash with a partner.

[@Brandon123456magine]

@@camiloiribarren1450 yeah😁

[@Yama_no_Kitsune]

In my Karate School, which falls under Shorin Ryu, we have a set of Kihon Kata which are very basic movements you perform in a line moving forward or backwards; they differ from "regular" Katas like the Naihanchi or Pinan in that there is no turning or anything, just a couple of dachi and techniques. They were designed by Chosin Chibana as an entry routine for new practitioners. Here is my sensei performing one of them, recorded during the COVID lockdown for reference as we have mostly online classes nowadays... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGGuq2Wad65pors&ab_channel=BushinDojoKarateDoyKobuDo

[@IsaacLausell]

My teachers count during the Kihon and have the higher belts practice more complex versions than the beginners. I don't prefer one over the other but I definitely want to learn this Kihon routine.

[@wanabdulhadi1268]

That was some very interesting kihon. That last throw is practically aikido’s kotegaeshi.

[@Lmolina90]

I learned Choi Li Fut kungfu for a short time and the kihon here remind me of a number of the basics my sifu would have us do. I kind of prefer this style. Makes applying them second nature, doesn’t distract with counting, and prepares you if/when things go wrong

[@YetMoreCupsOfTea]

I was thinking exactly the same thing! I spent my teens into my early 20s training in Choy Lay Fut. I actually see quite a lot of those Southern Kung Fu roots in the more traditional Okinawan Karate schools.

[@idleeidolon]

6:31 I love how that one move in Naihanchi has different applications/interpretations in many different styles. makes you appreciate why these kata got passed down, and why some masters spend years studying just 1 or 2 kata. it's the application of the movements, and the ability to use them in a fight, that unlock the meaning of the kata, not just perfecting the form itself.

[@bhoomibhamani4290]

Yeah I'm totally appreciate with you I have seen many people who ignore Kata. But they probably don’t know that Kata is the Maine bias... And The importance of Kata can be seen in this video.

[@omarhaq4274]

This is really great! We need more of these types of drills than the one step sparring or basic drills in Shotokan...

[@granadosvm]

The closest I have seen to this type of practice, when I first moved to the US I couldn't find a dojo of the "4 big" styles near me, so I went to the only karate school in the area, Wa-te Ryu. They have a similar practice although they have it divided in 3 different type of strategies, self-defense, escapes and grab attacks. All involve not just blocks, punches and kicks, but also throws, locks and pressure points starting from a close quarters situation instead of a safe distance starting point. The most interesting to me were the "grab attacks", since I had learned before how to escape from someone grabbing me, but these techniques instead of breaking free, they take advantage of the opponent grabs to tie them into a knot before punching them or breaking something. At the time I didn't fully appreciate the new teachings of this style, until later years when I was training in a Shotokan dojo, I started learning of the works of Bruce Clayton an Patrick McCarthy to re-discover the original full practice of karate in it's Okinawan origins. Thanks for this series, and for this video in particular.

[@Samperor]

wa-te ryu? Do you mean Wado ryu? I never heard of Wate Ryu. Sounds pretty cool.

[@granadosvm]

@@Samperor I mean Wa-te Ryu. It is a very small school, very atypical. They don't have a front stance per-se, instead of a zenkutsu-dachi they use something similar to a sochin-dachi, to get to black belt there, you need to test with empty hand forms as well as a club and a spear form. I am back to more traditional forms of karate, but the three and a half years I spent in that school expanded my perspective regarding body mechanics, kata performance and sparring style.

[@deejin25]

Awesome drills, much more practical and you see a clear lineage from Kung Fu to this. One of my favorite videos of yours to date!

[@matsug5704]

I laughed when Sensei Karate grabbed your little finger haha that looks really painful!

[@thegourmet1625]

I like this style of kihon simply for the applications. Using the blocks, fast and hard. Even the punches fast and hard to familiarize the movements and pain of a block/strike. “Never attack first.” This I type of kihon really gives you that application of each movement. Down to the bone. 💀🙌🏽 love it.

[@dannymcgough6369]

Great to see the flow of the Kihon here, it’s like watching 2 Kata’s being performed in a dance with each other, amazing. Really interesting to see the locks included as well

[@Abluemoon9112]

Their kihon are kinda like what Tang Soo Do call one step and self defense mix in one.

[@fernando.a.l.]

I have a balance problem, so these takedowns from the ground will be very useful for me. Thank you very much!

[@Burvedys]

As for Hokama-sensei, keep in mind he's from Seiko Higa line which stands apart from main Goju-ryu and is less convenient or common to other three (used to be four) main Okinawa Goju-ryu off-springs like: Tokuguchi's Shoreikan (he trained under Higa-sensei as well), Yagi's Meibukan (a Kuro-obi film, Japanese Goju-kai etc.) and my Miyazato's Jundokan (assistant to Miyagi-sensei in Okinawa Police Academy; and Morio Higaonna's IOGKF as more known to Americans late Teruo Chinen's Jundokan International are off-springs of this Miyazato Jundokan dojo, as well as Miyazato's organization after his death unfortunatelly has split into OGKF Kyokai and his dojo with affiliates as Jundokan So Honbu). It you check these Goju-ryu dojo you will be surprised how Goju-ryu is completely different, very powerful, very close-combat, very grounded, etc, to that we see here as wibbly wobbly timey wimey. :)

[@Artahe]

So far, out of the 3 styles you've shown so far, Goju Ryu is my favourite. I still hope to see you show a Shito Ryu school, mainly because I wanna see if the style that has my favourite Kata in all of karate is as amazing as its best kata :D

[@danskarate997]

Most people translate kihon to basics or fundamentals, I would say these techniques are fundamental for self defence a great drill. People are used to doing striking combos in lines but I like the grappling side shown here. Great content yusuke, I love it.

[@stevenedmund5680]

@ 3:40 I can see where Bruce Lee obtained some of his ready positions shown in the Tao of JKD as well as expressed in Enter The Dragon.I too use this low block side stance technique with the high hand palm is turned out to catch a kick or to block the vitals such as throat line and temple up top where as the low blocking hand's palm is turned outward towards the opponent to block mid height kicks or strikes. I have had great results bare knuckle sparring with this defensive technique. A great video as always.

[@Samperor]

That was beautiful. It seems Goju Ryu is well-rounded.

[@2wulfmartialarts657]

A lot of these movements are the foundations of my art, Budoshin Jujitsu. One drill we use as a warm up is also a drill used in Judo and it is Uchikomi, a practice of setting up a throw.

[@tarkajedi3331]

I have never seen Kihon like this Sensei!!! Amazing!!!! Your videos keep surprising me!!! Kind Regards from Australia

[@YoukaiSlayer12]

That was great to watch. I like seeing applications in training because it helps with the understanding & appreciation of the techniques. As for my Kihon practice I would say it’s generally solo with a count. Like starting in hachiji-dachi & doing a set number of age-uke or raising blocks. Then sometimes it’s front stance-low block step backstance-knife hand block or morote-uke for example. As for the Goju-Ryu kihon I’ll gladly learn them with a partner. Signed by Shotokan Karateka. Lol

[@priyanshubiswal817]

Throws, lock , sweeps are even in uechi ryu and many things are similar

[@Mr440c]

4:10 We do in fact something similar to those drills in Saint-Petersburg Goju-ryu school but use techniques that are more basic. A similar sequence is used as a warm up. I like this one a lot btw. Hokama-sensei includes movements from various kata here. The specific one that caught my eye was Saifa. I am sure there are quite a few others you could find. Excellent practice I must say!

[@JosephKerr27]

I really like Hokama Sensei's demonstration of kihon. I think I'll use these principles for flow drills, though we don't practice such kicks Matsubayashi-ryu.

[@areitomusic]

I believe those kicks are in the kata of Matsubayashi Ryu.

[@TQ96860]

Kihon and bunkai are interesting and very practical especially during the close contact with the opponent during the attack. Tq for sharing these knowledge

[@danishtrivedi5800]

This is excellent!!!!! In my opinion, way better than usual Kihon!

[@TheCCBoi]

I love this close quarters grappling Kihon. I would love to learn it.

[@kpitman1990]

I think the flow kihon drill is awesome! I can't wait for Sanchin as I'm currently trying to learn that kata for myself. To provide a comment about my opinion on the flow drill, I would say that both this drill and the common counting techniques are useful in their own ways. What I like about this drill is it provides the tactile skin on skin, bone on bone conditioning and sensitivity training from different energies that you cannot develop by not "feeling" it through the counting method. What I can see as a possible con would be the chance that students to start "memorizing" the order of the drill and it becomes more of a demonstration rather than a conditioning and tactile warmup. There have been too many times that when I train students a sequence such as this that I notice eventually they are just going through the motions of the drill like a memorization game and not actually thinking about what they are doing. This of course also gets better and more understandable with experience. As a counter point, I think even though you do not get the tactile and conditioning that this drill provides with counting, there is something almost meditative of counting out reps of techniques and attempting to harmonize your body by throwing the techniques at your maximum damaging force. Some students will takes years of practice and exploration to discover what their actual force output is and that can only be developed by practicing a technique countless times and analyzing your body mindfully. Am I too tight here? Am I too relaxed here? Are my bones aligned properly? Am I getting winded after only 10 full force techniques? Are some techniques better applied relaxed? When is the best time to relax and when is best time to contract muscles? All these questions can be answered over time by countless repetition of techniques. I think this flow drill is great for teaching the flow and possible entanglements and forces one may experience within the "pocket" of close range combat and to me personally , I feel the counting method embodies more of the "Ikken Hissatsu" mindset of "annihilating with one blow."

[@aaronsensei7637]

The goju method i studied was similar to this method. although we would go over techniques by our selves too. This is also body conditioning. I love the throw and redirection techniques its the soft element.

[@vincenzodevivo6409]

Very interesting approaching with differences of practice. I think that is the best for improving the knowledge of karate. Really like this video. Thank you very much

[@eugeniawagner8583]

Wow. This make me realize karate is more diverse than I knew

[@Burvedys]

Kihon is a fairly recent introduction to karate and comes from Japan. As for Okinawans, all sanchin, kata, bunkai, oyo, kakie, tsuzikite etc. are forms of kihon. My teacher has a 'triangle' that he also uses to teach and condition students on angles to slip from attacks and to counter-attack as well as pretty traditional training with sliding steps to sides just for basic techniques to engrave them so these shoot out automatically when necessary.

[@youhavemyrespect7662]

I feel that this style is good for close combat.

[@camiloiribarren1450]

It is. Goju ryu focuses a lot on close quarter and then getting away quickly

[@frankiegodinez8864]

Yes, I agree. I practice Kyokushin and everyone says that Kyokushin is the most effective in a real life situation, but I disagree, I’ve always said Goju Ryu is the most effective, as you can see here.

[@camiloiribarren1450]

@@frankiegodinez8864 well Kyokushin is good for self defense and tournament, but because it’s more popular than Goju, people tend to be biased. Also because Goju is traditional, many modern martial artists tend to dismiss it compared to the more popular and commonly used Kyokushin and Shotokan

[@frankiegodinez8864]

@@camiloiribarren1450 Yes, Kyokushin for sure is good for self defence as well, there’s no other martial art that conditions you the way Kyokushin does but in my opinion, it is missing some elements, such as throws and strikes to the face, which goju ryu still has. My point is maybe Kyokushin is more focused on tournaments now a days, where as goju ryu still has that self defence element to it. Nevertheless, I still think they are both beautiful forms of Martial arts. I still practice Kyokushin and will continue to do so until the day that my body doesn’t allow me to anymore.

[@camiloiribarren1450]

@@frankiegodinez8864 that is awesome. Maybe Kyokushin is more for tournament and has a lot of body blows and some high kicks that Goju-ryu does not have. It has mainly kicks focused on the body and lower part of the body while having punches hitting all three heights and locks/take downs. Traditional karate overall has a lot of striking and some takedowns because it still has roots for self-defense

[@Soldier-of-God.]

Our kihon at our dojo is set and we do perform it in counted sequences from one to ten. What he calls here as kihon at his dojo, for us it is our gosshin jitsu (self defense) and sanbon kumite (three steps) fighting drills.

[@martingonzalez8545]

Love this version!!! ♥️

[@milamotik3236]

These Kihon flows r bomb!! Great idea.

[@BelloBudo007]

I think there is huge interest in this type of Kihon. Locks, throws, atemi waza, etc are interesting & can be effective. I don't know a single person that started karate because they wanted to enter tournaments, and yet that is where so much of the training is aimed.

[@Keithphotorama]

I like the positive atmosphere, awesome 👍👍👍

[@mateuszpodlaski2746]

In all karate styles you can apply techniques from kihon for example jodan uke can be takedown,strike to vital point,lock

[@tokyo333]

外間先生のツボ攻めの洗礼、いつ見ても面白いな👊

[@TheNakedWombat]

I do like this. I like the repetitive push/blocking for practice especially.

[@elsasmuts3108]

I LOVE these Kihon basics. But we dont do it everyday, most for bunkai. It is the take downs and locks that makes me enjoy Goju ryu.

[@idleeidolon]

this feels like warm ups for infighting. when you're close with your opponent, and you both can hit each other with a punch or a kick. there's no distance to close -- you opponent isn't far away moving into your striking range, or you are outside your opponents striking range and you have to move in.

[@makenjikarate]

One motion leads flawlessly to the other. This was epic! The kihon at my class is a mix of karate techniques and kickboxing striking. Cannot stand overly long kihon combinations.

[@mishkaberuashvili5069]

I am practicing Shotokan and Kyokushin Karate but this kind of kihon is new for me, especially parts with grabbing the karategi

[@camiloiribarren1450]

Yep, many of these kihon techniques are what we start doing in my dojo, but not the takedowns when it comes to beginners. Not yet. We learn those one or two ranks later but we practice the bunkai of katas that have those movements

[@markc.jamila2386]

I like this Kihon both like in our Kihon and the free style Kihon that they do because it is more on self defense you can do it like free style

[@alfiefelix7968]

If you need a break from "Yusuke in Okinawa" series/episodes, for your next topic, list 102 kata(s) that are accepted by WKF, for the Summer 2020 Olympics (and yes, you have to name & pronounce EACH one, and which ryu they belong to), thanks in advance whether you do them or not.

[@divyanshkherde5019]

😯😶😶😶

[@saileshnaidu8102]

I wanted to see Yusuke do that kick in 1:12. Would have been super cool. Is that considered the crescent kick or the tornado kick? I practice Kyokushin and have practiced that kick, but at times different dojos refer to that kick with a different name. I was surprised they had that kick in Goju Ryu too. And I definitely prefer this kihon. It feels more effective

[@Anthony-rj6is]

In wing chun and ninjutus. You must feel every pressure point and joint locks. Plus we did, controlled free sparing. I came home bruised, every training night. The longest horse stance was 4 hours. The pain was in credible, the next day

[@kewnst]

these flow drills were amazing. the forgive the spelling ,nianchi bunkai in here is also exciting to see!. because we have a similar sequence in taekwondo poomsae. i can transfer the bunkai to it . i love this master already . hes knowledgeable, open, loves his art, and he has fun in the dojo ! thanks! goju is closely related to white crane kungfu . if u are interested in this art check out their videos too!

[@TheOctabreaker]

Our basic techniques we do like your kihon, counting, 1-10 OR we line up at the back of the room and go from one end of the mat to the other, then turn around and do another technique we are told.

[@carelmillionard3459]

Does anyone else enjoy the moments when Hokama Sensei says “Make him cry”😅or is it just me?

[@pascal_chiffre]

Thanks for the video. Really cool to see!

[@carelmillionard3459]

I think we found Johnny’s Mr. Miyagi👀😊

[@littlegiantrobo6523]

The founder of our style created something he called "waza," which is very similar to the this, though maybe a little more organized. Most of what we call "waza" are kihon done with a partner.

[@warrennass24]

We do two person drills which have solo compisits attached with them.

[@ruiseartalcorn]

This was very interesting! :)

[@PacShore]

In my opinion the flowing kihon is much better than the static method when it comes to the advanced rank and beyond. It allows the practitioner to move fluidly, as well as see more opportunities for openings and angles of movement for both defense and offense.

[@youhavemyrespect7662]

This is what I was looking for

[@walteranderson5090]

In kyokushin we practice sanchin also. Because of the face mask. I couldn't see if you were doing the breathing technique too. Also kek sai dai is done differently. I enjoy your videos. Osu!

[@mattstrader8956]

I prefer to define Kihon as fundamentals and not basics. As fundamentals they should be constantly in use and must be practical and efficient. I tend to mix line drills and application work. For example, If we do Age Uke in a line drill we then partner and work a self-defense application for it.

[@Noone-rt6pw]

Looks good! Hokoma Sensei hosted Steven Seagal, where I suspect both are Encyclopedias as well as huge notebooks of tricks and knowledge. Which there's always those who do not like others who are experts.

[@martinzavaleta658]

Hmm. This is the s video class i like the most.. thanks

[@emanuelreid-oxley6628]

Very nice i like it 👌

[@camlab1]

Would like to know more of the locks and throws

[@donelmore2540]

I love this version of Kihon! The Shotokan version of Kihon is boring. I think the Shotokan version was developed to facilitate teaching large numbers of people such as when Master Itosu introduced Karate to the Okinawan school system. The Goju version is more intricate and needs more supervision it seems to me. It is suitable for small groups. I’m too old for full power blocks in Kihon. I would be a mass of serious bruising. LOL. It’s too bad because I would like to do it.

[@kdefensemartialarts8097]

Man, the pinky toe part was great! Haha. I prefer normal Kihon though. We have a word for Kihon in Korean too, it "Kibon."

[@Samperor]

I remember doing Kibon. I think it's very similar to Shotokan.

[@mattlapoint801]

Omg, I love this!!!

[@curtisanderson7246]

I love the NO count it makes the drill more realistic. I study Shorin Ryu and our Kihons are different

[@seinundzeiten]

I like how concerned Hokama is about the safety of the students...

[@geocubano]

@Karate Dojo Waku, Most Ryukyu Karate Styles have a greater or lesser degree of Tuite/Grappling compared to their Japanese Karate counterparts. What I saw is a version of what in Okinawa is called Kakie a continuous and flowing hand drill that allows you to read the intent of attacking movement. Older styles that were founded, or influenced by Bushi Families have been taught techniques of the Ryukyu Oke, Okinawan royal families. In general, the royal families all had special skills generally called Bushi Te, but also known as Ryukyu Oke Hiden Bujutsu, that is, Okinawan royal family tradition martial arts. This included nerve manipulation & striking vital points, kakie, tuite, and other techniques. These were based on the indigenous arts and the Chinese styles the Ryukyu Bushi would have been subjected to over the 500 years the Islands were a tributary to China. It seems much of these techniques were dropped in the formation of modern Karate in Japan Proper.

[@tanjudermanl9111]

Thank very much for the info George. Flowing kihon/tegumi drills are always better in my opinion, that's the key to "flow like water". After many years of several Karate styles like Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Kyokushinkai and Korean WTF Taekwondo; I took for approx. another 10 years of softstyle Wing Chun lessons and 2 years now Wudang Pai Tai Chi (still working on it :)) to master the Wu Wei principles of Kung Fu. I recommend especially soft style Wing Chun and Taichi Kung fu lessons for perfection of hard styles. Hirokazu Kanazawa Sensei took also Tai chi lessons to give a soft soul to his Shotokan Karate. Wing Chun and Tai Chi Kung fu are based on flowing drills. There is no ultimate style or art, there are no masters, only students....

[@notuxnobux]

hmm, 8:14 is the same kotegaeshi as in aikido

[@alpachinko9154]

Of course. Why wouldn't it be? Both Karate and Aikido have shared techniques with Jiu Jitsu (more specifically Aikijiujitsu). Human civilisation and the human form don't exist in a vacuum after all. I'm sure you'll find "Kote gaeshi" all over the globe, from different disciplines, just expressed differently. Pretty sure Bruce Lee already mentioned this. :)

[@notuxnobux]

@@alpachinko9154 But okinawan karate has no relationship to ju jutsu? unless you count back to china

[@alpachinko9154]

@@notuxnobux I didn't specify which branch of Karate. But regardless, you don't think Chinese people would have also discovered wrist locks? Do only Japanese people have wrists? Jiu jitsu was only mentioned to show a common theme to aikido, which you mentioned. Was an attempt to help you understand 😅

[@xtream5productions56]

they are very complete , what you have to realize Jujutsu , Karate and Judo where one , however the master make you realize in a other point of view the use of your kata in Shotokan has the Origin where those joint lock come from , is really amazing I think Karate all Japanese martial arts should be done because one art connect to the other Oss

[@timoloef]

impressive!

[@gustavopalacios133]

o do shotokan karate but i like this version of kihon cause its more real situatuion fighting

[@nicolasmarquez8843]

This version of kihon is beautiful

[@leenaidoo1745]

while the whole prep routine is pre arranged,, dont discount the bone conditioning which is essential.. many styles do not prepare by conditioning..while you condition you begin to understand the exact weak points of the arm and this is invaluable in real life responses.

[@Natty_arturo]

This is more real! You fight the why you practice!

[@michelbruyere149]

Impressionnant à leurs âges 😲

[@harlemkham7650]

Very very cool

[@arg6741]

I like this guy...he's a rouge because he teaches bun kai style and kinda kata style

[@joachimmartinlopena538]

Wait. Wasn't this the same dojo that Steven Seagal visited in one video?

[@sirlysis]

I don’t know that this is true for most Goju Ryu schools. These flow style drills are more like tegumis. They are calling them Kihon, but are they really using them as basics? I would be interested to know if the dojo really has no way of teaching different blocks, strikes and kicks, as most other schools do with their Kihon. In our school we have Kihon (a way of teaching basic blocks and strikes) and we also have tegumis. These are more like what this school is calling their Kihon.

[@milty66]

that last technique was basically Kotegaeshi Ura (Aikido/DR)

[@nurbaiti_hikaru]

Just: WOW.

[@markc.jamila2386]

We do Kihon like punches kicks and Blocks

[@npsantoss]

I trained Goju Ryu, and it seems like a very different way to train kihon. Yet the concepts of strength and softness, breathing and the whole mindset are pretty much the same.

[@markc.jamila2386]

And his Kihon is very similar to the techniques that is in Kali arnis Eskrima for self defense

[@warrennass24]

This version of kihon I'd prefer.

[@超越上帝超越无限]

Jujutsu no gijutsu ga fusoku shite iru shotokan no zaidan kara kita baai, gojuryu ni tsuite dooomoimasuka

[@WorldsOkayestGuitarDemos]

We call these relationships. We do both basic kihon with counting and these.

[@seanbarker9272]

Jesse Enkamp fell out with me for criticising his all encompassing that's from karate view. It's good to see you're more open minded and have less ego than him

[@glens2019]

Yeah, he's been a little too click bait happy.

[@chrisc5499]

You say that like you know him personally🤨

[@mathieud1256]

Reminds me of wing Chun warming ups

[@joelquebec]

We don't do these, but we're going to.

[@Apex.am1]

Hi

[@saileshnaidu8102]

Traditional karate is the most dangerous martial arts. MMA, Muay Thai may be extreme but traditional karate was literally created to kill. Every move at one point was designed to kill. That's where the saying 'one strike, one kill' comes from

[@imjwin]

What’s up Broski 🦋🦋

[@ajshiro3957]

Beginners do a set of 10, while the advanced and black belts do 7. Mainly because they want to get to more advanced techniques. Advanced students are expected to know the basics

[@parrot9148]

Make him cry

[@momcawesome5610]

My Kyokushin Sensei was asked to leave Hokamas Dojo after his "vital point" techniques didn't show any effect on him and his students... make of that what you will...

[@marclerner3344]

Did you witness this yourself or just words from your Sensei? Sometimes Karate-ka can exaggerate things big time.