They Don't Work In The Cold...

[@KyleConner]

I left chapters to make the video easier to watch and you can skip the parts where my mind is literally blown at how bad this situation is. We need another CCS corridor provider. EVgo can’t get their pilot partnership up and running fast enough.

[@skyemalcolm]

This 1000%. Competition is great in the auto industry, it would suck if we all had to buy just a GM or just a Tesla. And that’s why we need all one plug and make all the Charge Point Operators (including Tesla) compete against each other being able to charge any EV.

[@nickparry1720]

This kind of information is critical for EV owners. Thanks for your efforts, Kyle.

[@nicnordic6143]

Charge operators in Europe get subsidies only if chargers are open to anybody. Hope it works the same way for you. The more open chargers the better...

[@anthonyc8499]

@Kyle Conner This is amazing journalism. Do you guys have a Patreon?

[@mikeflanary642]

Also need a canopy over the EV chargers like gas stations have. Even better if they had solar panels on top

[@paulharling7657]

This is quite alarming. Imagine if all cars were EVs and nobody can charge. The fact that the chargers fail to report they don't work is more alarming because it draws people into an area where they can be stranded in dangerously cold weather.

[@Chupamiculo]

Natural selection

[@kfl611]

Unbelievable.

[@S2kDude36]

Just buy a Tesla and you won't have to worry about the issues you see in this video. People in Northern US states, Canada, Norway and Sweden have been charging their Teslas for years without issue.

[@jac6996]

What a cluster F! And we are suppose to believe and change to this system.- yea right. Once again the greening of American pushed but not fully testing and developed.

[@Meekerextreme]

It's why I always looked at EV's as local transportation and not for travel. I can and do own multiple vehicles but most people can only own 1 vehicle. This is a terrible option for someone that can only own one vehicle. I'm more interested in Hybrids then full on EV's. I'm not anti EV's either as I have electric dirt bikes.

[@pdutta2000]

This video is amazing and should be marked as a public service announcement that is mandatory viewing for all government officials and electric vehicle manufacturers. Incredibly scary to think that someone could arrive at a brand new station with little to no range left and find it broken. Thank you Kyle for always bringing real world testing to the community!!

[@LarryRix]

And potentially live under threat of freezing to death or being otherwise injured as a result.

[@HubstepCamaro]

Another PSA: Stop pulling your cars forward until they hit the curb people, it damages your air dam

[@hondapilot]

Thank you for doing this. Being early adopters carries risk; your videos show how big a risk

[@Superman-xr1oh]

This isn't much of an issue if you're at home charging in a garage.

[@dsmtsi]

Only a matter of time before someone freezes to death stuck on the road in a dead EV

[@2afreedom60]

This should be shared over and over.

[@kftc1980]

It’s wild that this is taking people by surprise. Just leave lithium ion power tool batteries in a cold garage or outside in the cold over night, and see how they perform the next morning. They will be totally unresponsive, then come back to life once thawed out. Even if the chargers can function in the cold, charging the batteries when they are too cold can result in disaster.

[@oisiaa]

@@kftc1980 Tesla cars work just fine in these conditions. These chargers are for every non-Tesla car.

[@kftc1980]

@@oisiaa that depends on your definition of just fine. Battery performance starts to drop at 40f. Once it gets cold enough it drops off a cliff. At 30 degrees F the graph shows the model S only going 2/3 the range compared to 70 degrees F. Much worse when it actually gets really cold.

[@2afreedom60]

@@oisiaa well you keep your overpriced Tesla. I'll stick with my 67 Chevy big block. And im in Florida. Still sheeple keep believing the government. They want you to not own anything. Pretty soon you'll be renting a car. Lol. My Chevy snd my Toyota are both paid off. Chevy when I want some American muscle. Toyota corolla when I want new. Lol.

[@oisiaa]

@@kftc1980 This is mostly related to cabin heating and increased air density (drag). I once drove my Tesla Model 3 326 miles on one charge when below 32F by not using the heat...that's over the rated range.

[@ninoellison7793]

Unacceptable, and could lead to some fatal consequences. Brilliant and enlightening review!!

[@shaneb9160]

As a Canadian who regularly experiences -30°c as a day time HIGH temp during the winter, this video scares the heck out of me.

[@therealcdnuser]

I have had really good luck with the Shell Canada locations with the ABB chargers.

[@RobStevens64]

We don't get all that cold out here in Washington, generally. Of course, we just got our Mach-E a few weeks ago, and we were in the middle of our coldest winter in years (low of 13, high of 25 today). Glad we weren't planning on road tripping anywhere and have a garage to park it in.

[@shaneb9160]

@@therealcdnuser hopefully they prove to be better than the PetroCanada chargers that are notorious for being broken, or limiting to sub 50kwh speeds. i have a lightning on order and have some serious doubts ill be able to do any road trips with it (live in the prairies where there are next to no chargers)

[@crislabossiere6234]

I'm not bothered by this report. Most of the chargers worked, it was really the new batch of EA chargers that sucked. Tesla's chargers worked. There's also Euro countries that have climates like ours and they're forging ahead. Everything will work out just fine. The only reason there's issues isn't because they're electric, it's because there are going to be winners and losers in a new disruptive market. The market will force innovation (which is happening) and the market will destroy the losers, meaning the shit chargers that didn't work in this video are not going last or become dominant in the market. EV's are going to be the best vehicles in every possible way. There's only so far you can go with blowing shit up in a can. That's had a good run but that run is done. With manipulating electrons.. well, we don't even comprehend what those limits are. If you had to buy an EV today, Tesla with a home charger is your only option really for where you're at. 10 years from now you'll drive half way across Canada before you need to charge again and you'll have a lot of vehicles to choose from. Don't worry my fellow Canuck, we will be just fine up in here👍

[@Wirmish]

Good that it's not the -30°C that scare you... 🥶

[@thumper1747]

Hi Kyle, love how you used the cold conditions to thoroughly test the infrastructure, practically a public information service for all. Brilliant.

[@VADemon]

It's as if he should've been paid to do that.

[@YourName-us6wu]

@@VADemon Its as if these charging stations aren't powered by fossil fuels!!

[@VADemon]

spaceflight101, yt shadowbanana'd your comment. What I meant is that he's doing the work that either the government (public infrastructure, future of economy, and agenda) or these corporations (charger providers, carmakers) should have been doing and hiring people to do. Or in the very least provide *clear* feedback programs and means of contact/support. These companies deserve to be dogfed until the rest of management's lives for sticking their heads and other body parts in the sand.

[@davidbarkley9447]

I am just beginning to learn about Evs . I love hands on videos.great job

[@cybercastor6873]

Can you charge with the Tesla Charging Stations with a car other than a Tesla ?

[@gwalkeriq]

One thing I never expected is the difficulty he has physically plugging in the stiff cable having to use both hands frequently. I would expect some people might be completely unable to plug in just because their limited strength.

[@joecherra9392]

I agree! Chargepoint chargers aren't nearly as difficult to position and connect

[@jayjaynella4539]

Like older or disabled people.

[@Aries61]

EV revolution: the rule of unintended consequences. Charging stations not working or impossible to use. What a farce this whole EV utopia is!!

[@melissamybubbles6139]

What if you only had one hand? Like what if you were an amputee trying to charge in the cold and couldn't maneuver the frozen cable? Yikes.

[@williamdunn9880]

I live about 15 miles from where this was filmed. We have 2 ICE cars and 1 EV. Neither of my ICE cars would start the morning after this was filmed. We would have been stuck at home if it wasn't for our Mach E which performed flawlessly in the -24F weather.

[@callistoscali4344]

Mach E has very good range.

[@EforElectric]

He's not going to report that. That'll get on his way of bashing Electrify America

[@stayinalivemedical790]

I don't have an EV. But I thank you for putting such effort into this production as it helps me look at what I would face if I did. Just another reason I'm not giving up my Toyota gas-engine car.

[@robertkiell]

one of most reliable car on the market... it should last at least 300k miles depends on your maintence...

[@guitarcomet5]

@@robertkiell ….my 2015 Ford F-150 is averaging about 4000 miles per year. It will be 2040 before I get to 100,000 miles. I should be dead by then. I hope I never get an electric vehicle. I think by 2040, the public will realize how futile it is to own one.

[@Hafiere]

@@guitarcomet5 I'm sure gas-powered cars had their own teething problems when they first came out. The first gas stations had no pump and required manually putting in gas from 5-gallon containers. The first gas stations all just did this curbside, causing traffic jams. I suspect finding gas stations in remote areas was also a problem. We're all just used to the reliability of a system that has developed for over a century. I'd give EVs a few more decades before declaring them futile.

[@guitarcomet5]

@@Hafiere the science of electric cars and their future is negative and dark. I have little faith in them. My wife’s brother has worked for Duke Power for 30+ years. He has inside information about the whole industry. It’s not favorable towards electric cars.

[@word42069]

How often will you be traveling more than 300 miles in a day while needing to fast-charge in -9F weather? Do you road-trip in blizzards often? 😂 Also if you’re driving a Tesla you’ll be fine.

[@KellyBeninga]

I tried the Electrify America charging station at Colorado Mills yesterday and none of the chargers were working. I ended up getting stranded in below 0 weather. Poor charger reliabilty is not just an inconvience. It can be life threatening.

[@xMrsmileyfacex]

I wonder if anyone has died because of an empty electric vehicle AND none of the E/V chargers were working at any given location? Any reporting on that scenario? I highly doubt it because it doesn't fit the green agenda. The story would get killed immediately, no pun intended.

[@SummitCoyote]

@@xMrsmileyfacex happened in FL because people couldnt get out due to lack of enough chargers when every ev in the area is on the same road trying to escape a storm.

[@martybuehler3116]

Serves you right

[@cjporterfield1955]

Gasoline power never let's you down. I got stuck for an hour in that storm was able to rock enough to get myself out, would have never happened in an electric car. More importantly if you ever have an accident there's roughly a 90% chance your car will burn, if it does, you're burning in it because the fire department can't put out Lithium fires. EVs are dangerous, I hope the whole world quits buying them, because the fire department can't fight these, and we won't risk our lives trying, please don't give yourself a death sentence, stick with gas until electric is perfected or an extinguisher is invented and every truck equipped with one.

[@PAIDFOR50]

Ev's are just not practical and way overpriced! Everybody want the newest thing. I would like the stats on Ev owner who have Apple phone and drink Starbucks?.

[@screeperz9965]

Definitely hilarious and goes to show you that they didn't think this one through!

[@danb308]

Of course, when you think of progressives you have to think of a normal human being but then take away reason and accountability

[@othridgerunner379]

I worked at an indendent product test facility for awhile. The problem is often components are tested not assemblies. It was rare that a company requested cold testing at high humidity, which means that frozen condensation (ice) was not tested. Some of this humidity could be trapped inside sealed components, depending fabrication condition.

[@anthonyd8122]

I want to highly Thank You for running around in the freezing cold to bring us this all so important news. If they want us to make the switch to EVs, they have yet more work to be done.

[@andrewdonohue1853]

EV for everyone and everything is utterly stupid. The mandates gotta go, allow people to buy what they want

[@joecherra9392]

And that is MAINTAIN the stations that are already installed. That is the main problem EV owners have, finding stations that actually work

[@Hummin_Along]

I wish more EV owners were like you and willing to tell it like it is. I am a huge automotive fan and I love all things automotive. I have always liked EV's since before they were cool. But I'm tired of the not being able to criticize some of the EV tech that is not ready for prime time. Like for actual overland and off road trips or long distance rides they are not practical. Now before anyone gets mad I have a wife and four kids. Sitting around for several hours is not a option. Also how do you carry extra range into the back country? You can't, a lithium power bank like a goal zero yeti isn't going to do much.

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

Its not EVs you should criticize, its the infrastructure that VW was forced to build that is the real problem, as he said tesla superchargers work fine because tesla actually cares about user experience unlike the OEMs who want to sabotage the publics trust in EVs.

[@jeremypeterson705]

Tesla has proven that EV tech is ready for prime-time. The problem is other manufacturers haven't taken EV's seriously until VERY recently. Electrify America was a compliance project. VW had the opportunity to turn sanctions into a business opportunity, but very apparently squandered that opportunity.

[@karl7796]

Not only do you get range anxiety, but now you get charge anxiety with electric vehicles.

[@asherdie]

Then don't be a dupe purchasing this crap. It is a scam.

[@miguelcastaneda7257]

Actually rely more on fossil fuels look at all the body parts cell housing plastic polyurethane

[@TheSterlingArcher16]

Good luck traveling for Christmas in an EV when everyone is on the roads and every EV charging station is swamped, further compounded by everyone getting their range cut by 1/3rd or more due to cold weather. It’s gonna be a disaster as EV usage is continually ramped up.

[@BloodyKnives66]

The infrastructure and grid requirements are not in place for EVs. Unfortunately some places are outlawing gas cars by the 2030s so we may not have a choice.

[@arc00ta]

@@BloodyKnives66 Sounds like some politicians want to make sure you are limited in your travels with fully digital cars that can be stopped remotely, or geofenced into certain areas. I'm totally sure this ridiculous push on cars that do not help the environment in any way isn't yet another vector to gain more control over the sheep.

[@jasoningram9928]

Thanks for doing this footwork. This needs to be brought to the attention of the providers.

[@wendellmollycheck3669]

Until this technology is reliable in cold weather the federal government should stop trying to push this unreliable technology on everybody

[@amahana6188]

These failing charging attempts are what’s keeping me out of the EV market. Non Tesla cars are limited to local only use for all practical purposes.

[@anotherbrickinthewall1700]

I'd add: cost of purchase. Soon (i keep hearing about 2030), being able to travel will be for the elites only. The rest will be riding buses and train car roofs.

[@thomasgorman6094]

Whats it cost to replace the batteries in any EV vehicle??? I’m curious I think 50 to 60 percent of the actual cost of the vehicle, and having to be replaced far sooner than a gas powered motor that last 200k miles + and an engine replacement is what 10 to 20 percent of the original cost of the vehicle. Numbers don’t lie people do!!!!!

[@TempleScoop]

I just plug my car into the Tesla charger and works fine I have an adapter

[@jerrysanders9101]

They will all ultimately fail as a mass market item and be a novelty item for rich virtue signaling leftys. Transferring fissile fuel to electricity then to car is an extra step which takes more energy and defeats the whole purpose. Not mention no one considers the millions of toxic spent batteries that will need to be disposed of. Recycling is far too costly.

[@thomasgorman6094]

@@TempleScoop 🫣

[@billybatusc]

One of my biggest pet peeves is that most charge stations I've seen don't have canopies over them. That should help reduce some of the maintenance costs as well as improve the customer experience, especially in the summer (electric motorcycle owners)

[@wim0104]

or, heaven forbid, use solar panels for shade...

[@findkip]

Yeah and why aren't those canopies solar panels as well. Because that system won't work.

[@TedKidd]

...and not pull through...

[@mjg1544]

Or for charging in the rain or icey conditions.

[@nes999]

I would agree it would make adoption easier if it was more comfortable more trash cans/window wash. I disagree on the solar cells as they need to be kept clean. I cant see there being enough space to make it worth the infrastructure/long term costs.

[@MrWildbill]

I must say that these electric car guys are devoted to their cars, this guy went like 12 hours straight and never even hit the 50% mark on his charge, now reimagine this with a guy, his wife, and their 4 kids on the way to Grandma's house for Christmas dinner...

[@sulev111]

He is gonna get a gasoline car for next christmas probably.

[@donaldjames4437]

@@sulev111 Next year Biden will promote beam up technology. Elitist will buy into that one quickly.

[@stannelson2582]

@@sulev111moped guy for sure

[@asherdie]

He's queer, no worries.

[@miguelcastaneda7257]

@@sulev111 you can set up a gasoline vehicle to run both gasoline and propane there company's that will do it or kits you can install and be able to switch on demand

[@FthePump]

I’m glad you are sharing this. I keep string the obvious and get so much push back. Things need to change.

[@robertrosicki9290]

In my part of northern Canada temps less than -45F are common . Makes me wonder who will be the first Canadian to make the news and have the distinction of being the first to freeze to death stranded in their shiny new EV ?

[@ssoffshore5111]

Sad, but it sounds like it will be a reality. BTW, I'd move if I ever saw temps that cold, that sounds like an awful climate to live in! We see single digits a few times each winter, even that has me questioning moving, lol!

[@williamdunn9880]

I live about 15 miles from where this was filmed. A day after this it was -24F at my house. I have two ICE cars and one EV. Neither ICE car would start. The EV had zero problems.

[@QUIX4U]

@@williamdunn9880 Both ICE's out of petrol (and parked outside) the EV having to be parked inside to keep it warm THE VIDEO IS NOT ABOUT HOW GOOD YOUR GARAGED EV STARTED, but about how useless it will be at a broken charger.

[@vladimirharkonnen458]

Hopefully it’ll be The Honourable Justin Trudeau.

[@cmdrbillpaxton4302]

Just buy a Tesla, it just works.... When you run into situations like this, you realize how invaluable, reliable, availability, and value added that owning a Tesla is because of their charging network.

[@randocrypto1678]

This is some great reporting. If it really is the case that you simply cannot use the new units in the cold, that’s a…. Huge deal

[@davekozlowski1266]

Yeah, but with the tax money they will get, at least there will be more of them available.....on the app.

[@marcusrose5943]

@@davekozlowski1266 what tax $

[@davekozlowski1266]

@@marcusrose5943 inflation reduction act has billions for EV charging installations.

[@crayzieap]

Brings a new meaning to "coldgate"

[@kayakplayer]

Living in Wisconsin, I am seeing degrading infrastructure all around. I've been living in apartments and being able to charge publicly has gotten so unreliable here that to go places, I have to rent an ICE vehicle. I see all of the models as very flawed. I think we need to form cooperatives so the supplier is serving the driver rather than other entities.

[@PSTIGS]

My 1968 Barracuda is also pre-conditioned and I never have a problem at the GAS station , no matter what the temp is. My car also is in show and tell mode 24/7. Draws a crowd wherever I go.

[@gaylenewood7707]

Aw man I wish you had a picture of that old car..

[@standugi3478]

Classic Mopar car or no car!!👍👍👍

[@gaylenewood7707]

I remember watching nash bridges it's a TV series and don Johnson's character had that nice bright yellow barracuda I'm like that is one classic sexy car..

[@themeparkdad]

I don’t understand why the chargers show GREEN on the outside of the cabinet when the charger is faulted. It should show RED so you can see which ones are working from a distance. It would make it easier to avoid the EV “square dance” to park in front of a working charger. Thank you Kyle for going the extra distance (literally) to provide a snapshot on the state of CCS charging in cold weather.

[@johnsnell1929]

Yes! 👍

[@jyndev4570]

If they actually show down, it would affect their uptime reporting. As long as the machines stay green they can report positive uptime to their partners.

[@HaydenCMH]

Great job Kyle. This was an excellent job, top notch reporting. Thank you for bringing awareness to this!!

[@covercalls88]

What's very scary if doing a long road trip with a EV when you drive up to charge station and it doesn't work.

[@paulbaldwin7813]

i guess were going to have to carry around a portable gas charging when you go far

[@MrGearoid65]

I don't think I could ever travel any long distance in colder weather without severe range anxiety. Also I'd only charge where there was a rest stop/restaurant just in case the chargers let me down and I have to wait. Better stay indoors and keep warm than risk sleeping in my rapidly cooling vehicle. Keep us informed dude. Great job. 🌟

[@delbertdemarco6921]

I have been in the auto repair business for over 40 years and these vehicles are the biggest pieces of crap on the road. Absolutely the cheapest put together vehicles ever produced yet the most expensive. Insane

[@suddeneye9836]

This is sadly the biggest challenge for widespread confidence. Thank you so much for showing this. I knew the charging stations were sketchy.

[@kfl611]

Can you imagine if you pulled up to gasoline or diesel pumps and they didn't work because it is cold? This is basically the same thing. How crazy, they should tested these for like -100 degrees to + 200 degrees, like guarantee they work regardless. Also what if there are horrible storms and who areas loose their power? They should have some sort of emergency fuel generator backup, so you can still charge your electric vehicle - or emergency electric vehicle. Seems some people need to be fired and they need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a quick fix, heat the charging units and/or cables or something. How crazy.

[@luciahaskins3170]

This is the only thing holding electric vehicles back? Have you ever had a car battery that didn't need replacing? Or hell a phone battery for that matter? Do you enjoy long lines at petrol stations? It's only going to get better when you have to wait in a long line for a charge that takes multitudes longer for a "fill up". Do you like the notion of something like a stray bullet starting a battery fire that firefighters wont even touch? There is a ton of other factors that need considering. EVs can easily be considered the modern Ford Pinto.

[@ChrisppApples]

You are living the dream my man! Out on the road, testing hardware, making a living!

[@TheStickinator]

Then dies on the side of the road in freezing temperatures when EV craps out in Sub zero temps. 👍

[@ChrisppApples]

@@TheStickinator this isn’t what happens. People exaggerate ev issues because they don’t have one and can’t afford one. However sometimes the person is just ignorant. Like trying to charge your ev in sub zero without warming it up. With the phone app just like the weather, or social media, you always know what your car is doing. Ignorance is the reason for most of the issues people complain about. - Model 3 performance owner.

[@Johnfisher12345]

How utterly foolish. In your very own comment you make it clear that EVs are expensive toys for wealthier people. The majority of the cars on the road in the US are older, less expensive vehicles owned by people who can’t afford huge repair bills when they break, so just imagine our roadways full of busted electric vehicles owned by people who can’t afford to fix them and can’t afford to stay in hotels when their damn car won’t even get them where they need to go because of charging issues.

[@ChrisppApples]

@@Johnfisher12345 How telling of a response…. I didn’t graduate high school. Learned nothing about credit or debt or how to take care of myself at home, had to Learned ever from nothing. Point is anyone can get one if they really want. That aside…. Since currently Evs are luxury cars for anyone that decides they want to put effort into being able to own one. If you get an EV you educate yourself on how they work. You don’t get stuck because you didn’t charge or didn’t precondition or check for chargers using the built in computer. Lack of Accountability, responsibility, an willful ignorance is how you get stuck in an EV. The issue at hand isn’t getting stuck because a charger isn’t working and there is nowhere to charge. We are talking about people stuck because weather and they don’t understand the technology. In your own comment if evs are luxury toys then who is really complaining about EV issues now? Maybe people that don’t have them, can’t afford them, and or are ignorant to the actual capabilities and function. It’s new technology, there isn’t going to be a bunch of EVs busted all over the place unless the price comes down and ignorant people start buying them. Just like the onset of Gas, people would break down because they ran out of gas like crazy. Not near a station etc. Now since people are educated if someone runs out of gas they were pushing it or are widely considered ignorant. Evs are the same, except people aren’t getting the benefit of being completely blindsided by the technology because information is readily available. Unless a charger is BROKEN you will not have issues charging if you understand your car. Of course there are some outliers like a broken port or computer, but that isn’t the norm. Of all of the videos I’ve seen of people having issues with charging it has been extreme tests, broken chargers, not pre conditioning or rare defects or pure BS. Like the guy with the 2013 model s saying his car is dead and Tesla won’t fix it. But he hid the fact that it was 9 years old. Don’t take it personal but I have a EV, I can’t replicate most of these issues because I’m not ignorant enough to let them happen. When it’s cold I set my destination to a charger and the car heats up, I get there and my car charges fine. Before I go I verify that the chargers are open and working using the screen and sometimes the EV apps, if I don’t plan to go anywhere I charge and take into account daily power loss, I do this by nature because I love technology and I’m responsible. I don’t understand how your battery gets to 2% and you get to a charger that doesn’t work and you get the benefit of the doubt that a situation like that isn’t absolutely your own ignorant fault.

[@waynefisher4296]

I think the ignorance is equally on the part of EV owners thinking that this is actually saving the invironment when these vehicles to produce is actually worse for the environment. That ignorance is actually worse because it will send mankind down the road of tyranny. Have fun with that you mindless twat.

[@packerfanmatthew]

Kyle, I love your content and dedication. Can't think many other people would go so out of their way to test these shitty chargers. Appreciate you for all that you do!

[@tommckinney1489]

EA wants to count 50% uptime as 100% because you can always move to another charger. Nope. I recently tried to charge at EA. The two working chargers were occupied, the other two were down. I had to wait for one car to finish. 50% is not equal to 100%.

[@avesraggiana]

That's some "New EA Math" right there.

[@joemcdonough7509]

That argument wouldn't pass the smell test for IT SLA requirements on server uptime. No customer would ever except the CIO telling them half of our network is offline and the other half is at full capacity so you'll just have to wait.

[@ai4px]

Same people doing this “math” are the same people who made cars emissions compliant only when on test stand? Hmmmm

[@kcharles4630]

Your dedication to testing the non-Tesla charging infrastructure is amazing and to be commended! You're providing existing and potential non-Tesla EV owners invaluable information that they wouldn't get anywhere else. Your test results should even inform the government in re: charging infrastructure incentives as EA reports out their availability performance.

[@grubermotorcompany]

Good job Kyle.

[@NadiMich]

Your dedication and information is invaluable.

[@jeffandich3894]

The non-Tesla manufacturers should pay you for your efforts! They need to be on the hook to fix the situation for the non-Tesla EV’s to have meaningful sales or somehow maybe find a way to work with Tesla to fix the situation.. Or maybe the government needs to more heavily regulate charging..

[@Allison11111]

The Inflation Reduction Act will have a significant impact on the EV charging infrastructure in the U.S. Its provisions will ultimately result in more chargers in more areas of the country, thanks not only to its direct investment in EV charger credits but also in expanding EV ownership.

[@juancarlosducca2782]

@@Allison11111 Yeah, that would help but not much if the automakers don't put any effort in maintaining, expanding it and making sure it works all the time. They should have a skin in the game and so far I do not see any interest from the major manufacturers to take to the task like Tesla has done. We should not expect taxpayers to take all the burden.

[@justjoe0327]

You earned you money today! Love my Tesla, never really have an issue charging. Would like to look at other EV’s but the charging issues have kept me at bay. Thanks for all your videos!

[@dougwebb6193]

I like my car fine I use it as a second car but no one in their right mind can think that they're anymore than that I call my car a toy my friends poke a little fun at me and I realize that not everyone can have two have two vehicles and expect everyone else to do the same actually I have three vehicles I must have a pickup truck to do the real work there's no way that I see in my lifetime that EV would ever replace that diesel pickup that I have so just consider that Tesla a toy like I do and you'll be fine but no one there right in mind can use a Tesla as a primary source of transportation and as a towing vehicle!

[@CountryTesla]

As an old timer with near 100 gas and diesel vehicles and my wife researching and getting a Tesla 3 years ago I can say there's good farm duty gear and there are sunny day toys. Tesla is in the quality category, charges perfectly at -10F here.

[@rvnmedic1968]

I've read that the EV batteries lose a lot of efficiency in cold weather when temperatures approach freezing (32F). Also read that they should not get charged up to 100% repeatedly due to the battery wearing out. So MANY variables with an EV! All of this info should be shoved down the scrawny throats of the "Green" politicians. Better yet, put them in an EV on a cold winter's night (like this guy) and drive 200 miles with temps way below freezing. Cheers, Bob

[@davidakers8258]

@@rvnmedic1968 the politicians don’t care do what your told and move on . They have been compensated for their green vote and agenda .

[@Osnosis]

Living in one of the most consistently cold climates in the US, we’ve never had a local charging issue. Reliability will increase nationwide in the next 2-3 years. When every mall parking lot becomes a FREE charging station, the malls will revive, and the public will come running.

[@f1y7rap]

@@Osnosis lol... the cope is real. NOTHING in life is free. And the shopping mall paradigm died in the 90s. Stop living in the past. Malls were conceived to promote consumption in the US without real value added. Its an inefficient model that is dying globally, and was only adopted globally because everyone wanted the USA's prosperity without understanding that post-WW2 prosperity cost. And noone is willing to pay that cost anymore.

[@Osnosis]

@@f1y7rap You probably don't know much about malls; they are desperate to save their sunk costs, and free, solar charging is one way to entice customers in cars. As for living in the past, welcome to the ICE.

[@sydecarnutz972]

I'm surprised how much the Rivian looks like my Maverick from many angles. But seeing these issues makes me want to stay with my good old gas Maverick. It's been awesome for a year now. Thanks for letting us know the issues here!

[@rainmaker3700]

They all look like Honda Ridgelines to me.

[@ripvanrevs]

I had a Maverick in the early 80s. Is yours a Grabber?

[@jimco1198]

I was thinking the same thing. I have the White Lariat eb. Love my Maverick

[@JaysRandomnessChannel]

@@ripvanrevs the TRUCK Maverick...step into the 2020's.

[@kennethdavies8610]

So the trick is only use an electric car in the summer. That's real progress?

[@eastmanwebb5477]

Thanks for your excellent reporting. And for the viewers of this video, please consider sharing this video on your various social media platforms to get the word out and to put pressure on Electrify America to get their act together.

[@M5252email]

I'm left wondering how many of these charger manufacturers have been provided with federal government subsidies intended to help product development? Could it be that when handed easy money these companies are apt to be a little lax?If it was their own capital they might be more thorough in design and development. Remember the millions given to Solindra. Wow, state of the art solar panels and a impressive production facility, and then KAPLEWY.

[@randolphcarter9163]

I used to work for a company that made gasoline lines and connectors rated to work down to -40 degrees for use in Alaska and other similar climates. It's a problem gas has but solved long ago. The problem can be solved for EV... but it costs. When my parents lived in Canada everyone had engine block heaters for their gasoline cars - we need those for our EVs but the electricity again costs money. The answer is nuclear of course, but that requires axing a regulatory agency or three.

[@jasonm2081]

Thank you for this. As much as many of us love EVs this is a huge concern many of us have about them.

[@SoloRenegade]

I live in a cold environment and I've been telling people EVs don't do well here and they never believe us.

[@catbert7]

Cold definitely hurts Range, by up to 30%. Fortunately, Teslas have enough Range to still be okay, and no problems charging. I've done lots of road-trips in my Model 3, most in the cold, and have had no problems at all. Every couple hours someone in the car needs a short break and we charge up for 10 mins and get 100 miles of range back, enough to go another couple hours. The chargers always work, they're always fast, it's literally just grab the charger and plug it in, and, at least around here, I've never had to wait. Costs a fraction of gas, even on the go. At home, it's so cheap it's essentially free. Only car I've ever loved.

[@kftc1980]

I guess they only trust the science when it suits them.

[@joecherra9392]

And yet, I was driving all over town in below zero weather while ICE mobiles were getting towed to the shop. Even the smallest EV batteries can complete 30 miles per day, the average distance driven by the average motorist

[@Tr3ySoldier]

@@catbert7 keep convincing yourself EV's are worth it. Write me another paragraph.

[@SoloRenegade]

@@joecherra9392 30miles where I live will find you stranded and freezing to death in a blizzard (like happened recently to other people, freezing in a blizzard). Most people I know drive more than 30miles one way to work. Try again. And I live where we were -20F for weeks recently. ICE vehicles have no problem in this cold going hundreds of miles.

[@omelborpon3159]

Thanks to Kyle and company for their service. EV infrastructure is sooo important, and these folks on the spot and telling it like it is.

[@user-qe5cq2em7s]

Thanks for your reviews 👍. Never entertained that charger's could fail other than a supply fault. Entertaining as why a road trip would be considered in the conditions current. Then I'm living in a climate that is 40°C one day and 11°C the next, and snow is a non event here.

[@reccerat4446]

Owning an EV seems like a lot of fun, if you enjoy being stranded in freezing weather and having no way of moving or keeping warm huh.

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

Buy a tesla and it won't happen my man

[@Karthunk]

@@ogzombieblunt4626 or buy a gasoline vehicle

[@karlschauff7989]

@@ogzombieblunt4626 Tesla's are fine for some people, but they don't offer EV's that work for average middle class families. Even among the other auto manufacturers, the price of a midsize crossover EV is significantly more expensive compared to the gasoline-powered equivalent.

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

@@Karthunk If you want to, after driving ev's for a few years its annoying to rent any gas car.

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

@@karlschauff7989 Yeah thats a function of battery advancements. As energy density increases and battery chemistries like lithium iron phosphate become more popular tesla will sell a 25k car.

[@mjb9176]

Hubs friend retired from Chrysler management and these days he takes bad EV batteries from dealerships to specialized shippers heading to Michigan (I think) to get inspected so they can learn what went wrong with them. We heard that cold seriously affects the batteries but to learn that it also prohibits charging shows us that this technology isn't ready for our climate. Freezing to death is a real possibility.

[@SvendleBerries]

Seems like "freezing to death" is something western governments universally want for the little people. Especially in Europe where their governments are making a stink about people needing to heat their homes during the winter, like its a bad thing.

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

Not with a tesla

[@anthropicandroid4494]

It's also a bad way to go

[@gaylenewood7707]

Can you imagine your wife is about to give birth and you have to take her to the hospital and your electric car stops running in the middle of the road..

[@concernedamerican7409]

Not only do we not have the infrastructure for electric vehicles, but it only takes 5 min to FUEL up vs how long are you a sitting duck charging?...not to mention cost. You can keep your electric vehicles.

[@microtransactions2661]

I've already experienced pulling up to a station where all chargers are occupied, people are going to 100, imagine a situation where there are more people stuck and can't charge. You'd have even more deaths in weather like this.

[@joecherra9392]

Choose the stations that have fast as well as J1772's where you can charge while waiting for a vacancy at the fast charger.

[@Johnfisher12345]

Or buy a gas vehicle and practically never have to wait more than a couple minutes for fuel, even at a busy station.

[@TheStickinator]

Here ya go. Hundreds of people in line to charge. kzbin.infoUqEwLle8xKU?feature=share

[@TNitroH]

When that day comes there will have to be time limits imposed on vehicles to prevent people from holding up other vehicles just to go to 100%. Sad but reality setting in

[@ronster1885]

Most ppl with these cars have their Covid jabs too... makes sense they don't care of their well-being

[@mikeofallon]

Yet another reason why those who say "EVs are for everyone" do not know what they're talking about.

[@Charlie-UK]

In Alaska, Fast Chargers are kept in temperature controlled enclosures, so adverse or cold temperatures don't stop them working. I'm surprised if it gets that cold there they have not done something similar...

[@Ellobuhbyehair]

Hey Kyle 🖐🏾 I don't have an EV (I don't plan on buying one) and I live in an area in California with pretty mild weather. So, the topic doesn't really apply to me, but I really enjoyed watching this video. I appreciate the time and effort that you put into this experiment. I'll definitely share this video. Great job 👍🏾

[@kftc1980]

In CA the issue will be the poorly managed/maintained grid, and environmental policies. In the future charging an EV will be very expensive when the power is on, and impossible when it is off. It is a classic bait and switch. Good luck.

[@sleeve8651]

I thought California was about to outlaw Fossil fuel vehicles ? How will this not affect you ? Especially when these EV's begin to fail and block traffic ? Bound to happen ! IMHO ! 🤔....?

[@covercalls88]

A Walmart nearby has pulled all of their EV chargers. Considering how Cal. Government wants everyone to buy an EV this is not a good sign.

[@edwing72]

@@sleeve8651because it doesn’t get cold in California……😂

[@chrisclark1852]

Didn't California just recently tell everybody not to charge their EVS cuz they were in the middle of brown out or blackout? Thank God we're still burning fossil fuels so we can charge our electric vehicles! Goooooo green!

[@bekind8246]

Thank you for the information you are sharing, It seems to me that 2 hours charging nowadays screams theft target for the driver.

[@catbert7]

I've never spent more than 10 mins to charge my Model 3, on the rare occasion I need to charge away from home at all. That gets me about 100 miles, which is good for another couple hours of driving, which is as far as I can get before someone in the car needs a break anyway. I don't think there is any EV that needs 2 hours to charge. First, that would be charging from 0-100%, which is not a real-world use-case. You charge a bit then drive a bit. Charging gets you miles fast for the first 50% and it gets progressively slower from there. 90-100% takes as long as 0-50%, which is why no one ever does that. The main problem with non-Teslas is that you can't count on the charger working at all, much less giving you the charge rate it's supposed to. Fortunately, Tesla's network has no such issues.

[@aberlin01]

I'd love to know what's going on in Norway, where half the cars sold today are EVs. Surely their fast chargers don't stop working at these temps.

[@stever.7658]

Maybe in Norway they just walk to work in the inner-city during the winter so no one notices. City driving for an EV is vastly different than rural driving and Norway is 1/5th the size of the US. More people live near or in the cities.

[@omelborpon3159]

Bjorn Nyland on KZbin

[@MH-Tesla]

They don't have Electrify America! Notice all the Tesla chargers work every time, no app needed, no card, just plug an easy to plug in cord and it charges every time.

[@aberlin01]

@@MH-Tesla Right, point is that it's not like Tesla has some special tech for dealing with cold weather. These are known, obvious issues and presumably countries that are really cold with high EV adoption rates are using off the shelf tech that doesn't break at low (but not unthinkably low) temps.

[@kruemelfelix]

In Norway and all of Europe the chargers work in -30°C without issues. It's only in the US where you have no reliable manufacturer lol

[@justintyme2451]

I noticed years ago that some charging units used plastic on the charger ports, which shrink in cold weather. Needs to be corrected. I've used other chargers that worked fine at 30 below F. So... the provider needs to correct their implementation. Maybe after someone sues them for frostbite or hypothermia.

[@Hiiipowerdanni]

EA should have thought about weather conditions.. it should have things in place for temperatures like this. I don't understand why this wasn't considered

[@dominick253]

At the very least a foolproof charge Even if it's low power. At least have an option to do 220 charging if the dc is failing

[@Demobot1]

News Flash. EA doesn't build the charging units.

[@Hiiipowerdanni]

@@Demobot1 right the Collab. That still doesn't change the fact this should have been considered by someone EA or not.

[@givanildosouza6904]

@@Hiiipowerdanni they don't really care, they are just doing it for compliance and tax dollars and there's no consequences for being unreliable

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

My guess is they did and when quotted the price needed to get the chargers to that startdard they said it was to expensive and forgot... Bad timing too.

[@markmonroe7330]

Combine the short range of the EV's in general, especially in the cold with charger issues and you really have to think before your wife, daughter/son or elderly parent buys one. Imagine your wife is a nurse working night shift and then has to deal with this to get more "fuel" to get home on a nasty night.

[@Mathis218337]

not really an issue for work - you charge at home - this is really only for trips. But as long as you have a tesla, you wont have any issues.

[@secret5.]

I'm imagining coming home from work in Wyoming. I would die if I got stuck. I mean I can idle my truck for a day on a tank of gas to keep the heat going.

[@matts.8342]

@@Mathis218337 You charge at home.... if you have your own home with a charge port. If you rent in a complex with a parking lot, you charge at one of these places on your way to or from work. Or at work if you are lucky enough to work somewhere that provides it.

[@Mathis218337]

@@matts.8342 70% of people live in single family hones

[@uncrunch398]

@@secret5. Do some research on how to stay warm in an emergency. You can make / get micro heaters that operate on tiny flames. Follow safety guides of course. Figure out and build a kit specific to your case. Keep it in your vehicle, always. Don't forget emergency food and heater fuel to last as long as you could possibly be stuck without help. And a way to deal with human waste for that long. There are also electronic beacons that will notify rescuers of your location and that you need help just by pushing a button. I'd need to see some reviews again to be sure which to get.

[@samesource]

Thank you for doing this. EA is criminally bad, given how much federal funding they have received.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Amen

[@cinder7183]

Solyndra was expensive too. They never learn but somebody gets filthy rich.

[@ItalianMetalHED]

everything the government touches turns to sht

[@samesource]

@@ItalianMetalHED I think that's a bit of an overreach unless you think having a local fire department, public libraries, or local parks are bad ideas.

[@ItalianMetalHED]

@@samesource well they’re not focusing on infrastructure just adding to an aging system that can’t handle what they want to force us to move into. Government as a whole is inefficient and many don’t even know about what they create laws for. They just throw money at “problems” only to create more problems

[@christophersiano969]

Sadly, it is exactly because of the "when I have to travel" fears that seems to keep most people I know from taking the leap. It's not the day to day and most people really like the day to day EV experience. It's the "I need to go on this trip each year" or "I'd like to know I can drive to X if I wanted" and then worrying about charging. A great example in my area is snowmobile and ski areas. Because of the lack of snow in Southern New England, snow sports junkies need to head north. But look at the charging options going north. If you want to drive from Boston to the tip of New Hampshire for the awesome snowmobile trails, you have to detour to Vermont for a charge. Then, it's possible you have no way to get back home! Want to go skiing in northern Maine? Forget trying with an EV. You won't make it. Period.

[@cgamiga]

You are a godsend to the community, and helping force the manufacturers & site operators to do better! You may have saved some folks from being stranded.. thanks Kyle!

[@justanotherguy7798]

If anybody can get EA to get their act together I believe it will be you Kyle thanks for being the voice for all who love electric vehicles.

[@patrickvanderhyde]

We really need accountability of EV charge companies. I want to know if the execs at these companies exclusively use EVs. Eat your own dog food and walk the talk.

[@georgepelton5645]

@@patrickvanderhyde Amen brother! 😀

[@Hummin_Along]

From my understanding EA does not care. They were created out of the VW diesel gate fiasco by VW.

[@patrickvanderhyde]

@@Hummin_Along they are in line to receive a bunch of federal money but they need to prove uptime as part of the law. It is important that our representatives in Congress understand that uptime is not just something they can trust as being reported from EA or any other charging company. At every opportunity - challenge the Execs of these companies to use their own products and fix the issues. This video from Kyle helps bring clear focus to the problems today. Federal money needs to come with clear standards for uptime, availability, number of uses, lighting, ability to escalate issues and resolution times.

[@Hummin_Along]

@@patrickvanderhyde Some of the locations seem sketchy too. I would not want my wife to be sitting in a random parking lot at night trying to charge by herself.

[@SAFETYDR]

Thank you for this service. I own a Tesla and a Rivian. Owning the Tesla for two years, I have driven 20,000 on road trips. Aside from a single tower down from time to time, I have never found a problem and the car has never failed to charge. I have taken the Rivian on two trips along a corridor meaning that EA was the only option. Aside from Salina, there were problems at every station of one kind or another. I have been using about 1000 Whr/mile in the Rivian during this cold snap. Clearly, I have to rethink which vehicle to take in these extreme conditions if I am road tripping. I appreciate your work.

[@timlawson2320]

Several gasoline pumps were also down in the midwest during similar temps a couple weeks ago

[@badandy2893]

Interesting. We here in Minnesota are on day 7 without the temperature ever climbing above zero. I’d like to know more about how well the heat and window defrosters work when it’s-20f as that is a common winter temp when I drive to work.

[@mh0862]

I was gonna comment, -6° F in Minnesota really isn't an extreme temperature.

[@joecherra9392]

I live in Minnesota also. EV owners are taught to "condition" our batteries BEFORE traveling. Conditioning our batteries bring them up to 68 degrees F AND heat up the interior as well as keep the window from fogging up

[@mclaine33]

Damn bro you went out of your way to make this video!! Seriously congratulations to you and I hope Electrify America sees this video!! They got a big problem!!!

[@roontangdavis2694]

They actually don't have as big a problem as the consumer. The largest part of this problem is yours. Wake up, executives of large corporations and million dollar startups (partially subsided by tax monies) will walk away rich regardless.

[@cpear760]

Thank you for your dead-of-night testing and showing the issues of cold weather charging

[@jbdarr604]

Kyle you are such a pioneer! I love watching your reviews and perspectives. You are INVALUABLE to the EA people as they need someone to call them out and share with the world how inconsistent their service is and how dangerous their poorly run stations are rising to the increased demand of EV owners. Let’s get these stations working and let’s improve their competition so maybe we can get garbage cans, bathrooms or even just a weather cover roofed over these units!! Come on Kyle!! Go baby go!!!

[@CheddarKungPao]

Wow this is dangerous. People could get stranded in super cold weather. I hope EA is able to fix this with software or they move quickly to do whatever hardware updates are needed to fix this problem. I also hope they finally learn their lesson about hardware reliability. I mean holy poop how do they not do cold weather testing?!?

[@flamaest]

People could die out there.

[@randygrein5711]

Yeah, that one is pretty obvious. Only reason I can think of is maybe they were developed in California?

[@SweetLou0523]

@Randy Grein electrify America in general is totally unreliable. No surprise, given that it was the result of vw getting caught committing fraud. They are forced to build these chargers as the penalty, why would they spend anything more than the absolute minimum to not be in violation of the court order?

[@joenovak2815]

@Fabian La Maestra That is their Plan. Dontcha know there's too many people on the planet?

[@cifey]

@@joenovak2815 We will malevolently clog the charging parking spaces.

[@108media4]

This solidifies my reason to purchase our Model Y. I've road tripped it a few times already, easy breezy.

[@Ghost-jy9hk]

I couldn’t charge my model Y at a supercharger today. None of the stalls work. Just a little anecdote

[@dougc190]

An electric vehicle is not for me because of my lifestyle and everything else like that. I applaud you for showing this. Cuz I don't think most people realize how much different electric car is than a gasoline-powered vehicle. I like how you did not preach about owning an electric vehicle, I have no problem with anybody on electric vehicle. I have a problem when they tell me what I have to own and thank you for not doing that

[@tomdonovan8480]

I love the EVs (instant acceleration, less parts) but recognize they are still a maturing technology but a better simpler one as compared to ICE vehicles. In time EVs will evolve and improve while ICE vehicles will fall away to the wayside but that time is ony starting today. I understand your position and respect it. Purchase what works for you but realize that as we move forward in time the EVs will overtake the ICE vehicles and the value of EVs will level off (hopefully at a more reasonable price) while the ICE vehicles will be challenging to maintain since part manufacturing will be reduced. Probably years from now, possible decades, if someone has an ICE vehicle it will be like a classic car and parts will need to be searched for far and wide while parts for EVs will be ubiquitious. Also, fuel will change as well with heated, covered EV quick chargers being commonpace while ICE fuel stations will become rare. This evolving of technology is similar to how electric power evolve as an alternative form of energy for light and power. Today, most people take it for granted to flick a light swith on the wall and the room lights up but that was not the case in the past. In the past one often had to light candles or oil lamps to obtain light.

[@dougc190]

@@tomdonovan8480 I will agree to disagree. I do not think battery / EVS is the way at all. Physics will only allow you to charge a battery so much and so fast. I drive a semi truck, I can put 180 gallons in this thing in 5 minutes and then go 800 to 1200 miles. In that situation I cannot see charging a truck that fast to go that far without having to put on the safety gear that you see some of these guys wear. I also think mining lithium is very dirty. I think the saddest thing is is it's pushed on us. I'm all for letting the market decide. Most new gasoline cars since the 2000s have been partial zero emissions, the new emissions on semi trucks the exhaust is cleaner than the air they sucked in. I mean we're basically at zero emissions as it is

[@dougc190]

@@tomdonovan8480 and I thank you for the civilized comment, I tried to make sure mine was like that too back to you

[@hhds113]

@@tomdonovan8480 I don't think EV's will ever overtake ICE. Remember it took DISESEL trucks to mine that toxic lithium for your battery.

[@tomdonovan8480]

@@hhds113 There are already some promising new battery tech elements that will replace lithium. Silicon dioxide (no lithium) based batteries (more charge/discharge cycles, no fire/heat or explosive hazard, and silicon is an abundant fairly low cost element) and solid state batteries with no risk of fire/heat explosive hazard along with a life of far more charge/discharge cycles than lithium.

[@richh650]

Thank you, Kyle, for an eye-opening issue. Hoping the EA can get these issues corrected quickly before someone maybe dies in the cold.

[@bradj7205]

Based on your channel, and many others as well…50% of Electrify America’s chargers don’t work under any weather condition. This is certainly not the first time you have had issues with them, and so many others have as well.

[@brickhunter9537]

Not once have I had issue with Tesla superchargers.🤷‍♂

[@notagain8661]

Nothing like hanging out in a dark parking lot filling up for a hour!

[@technolung]

Well he doesn't have to worry about anyone cutting off his catalytic converter I guess 😆

[@jamesjoslin7586]

Insanity

[@hhds113]

@@technolung No but now he has to worry about his vehicle catching fire for no reason. And look how long its taking him to get his vehicle recharged? I would already filled my truck up and been home while he's still standing out there in the cold. Sorry but EV's were never practical to begin with.

[@inkagneato]

I drive Uber/Lyft and when ppl ask about charging, I say if you don’t want to worry or think about it, Tesla is the only way to go (for now anyway). I really hope other charging companies are taking notice and can fix these issues ASAP

[@ChrisandKnight]

I also drive for both, and say the exact same thing to passengers that ask about recommendations and such.

[@Solkre82]

Yep. A modern Tesla can charge on any system now. Superchargers, CCS, CHAdeMO

[@welbyroberto6581]

I have Model Y and still searching for a replacement as I dislike the controls are 99% on the touch screen, quality and subpar workmanship. But majority of the EVs just couldn't beat Tesla on battery range, charging stations, software updates, speed, storage space and hidden power trains

[@samusaran7317]

@@welbyroberto6581 Ioniq 6.

[@davva360]

@@samusaran7317 The problem isn't the cars. Ioniq 5 and 6, Kia EV6, are great, so are the BMW offerings but, if you need to road trip, you just can't beat a Tesla. The other charging networks suck.

[@tom_hoots]

"Congratulations on a million views" for this video, Kyle. Thanks as always for the perspective you bring to us, on a daily basis.

[@cbenson513]

So sad, in the United States, buying a non-Tesla with the intent to do some travel still means being a 2nd class citizen in terms of charging. It's been this way since I went full EV in 2015. Its too bad, I've nearly bought a few non-Teslas that I like better than what Tesla offers, but the BS you have to deal with charging on the road just isn't worth it if you travel a decent amount imo.

[@cbenson513]

Just a note to add, this has not been my experience in Europe and I absolutely would go with a non-Tesla over there.

[@Grunttamer]

Well the Tesla charger is open source now so any car company can use it

[@raemill4089]

Yikes man. That is HIGHLY concerning to say the least. Thanks for checking on this. This is just mind boggling poor of EA. I want to see in the hottest heat of summer of the new stations will work.

[@adas1988]

EA said the new stations work great in the heat. Lol I guess they forgot about the cold. 😂😂

[@theotherrobzombie]

I can’t ever see myself dealing with this. You’re patience is astounding to me. Just having to stop and “charge” makes me laugh every time some of my friends that have EV’s say it. Maybe 10yrs + from now but definitely not now (for me). I guess I’m too old but I love an “old school” ICE. I hope they get this figured out. Paying that much for an electric vehicle and then not being able to charge it when you REALLY need it. I do appreciate you doing what you do for people.

[@eugeniaskelley5194]

I feel the same way. Plus no one takes into consideration how this will work in large cities. I live in San Francisco, parking in front of your house is not a guarantee and most people use their garage for storage. Waiting in line for charging will be a nightmare and so will going to the malls. Our power gird is not up to par, and they are already talking about charging during peak hours. Judging by the video and eliminating the weather eliminate people will be out there at 1 am to charge a car. Great idea about EV but too costly they don't last as long and if you run out of gas, you can go get gas, but you need a tow truck if you run out of juice.

[@HubstepCamaro]

99% of the time you never need to charge because your car starts full every day. I only stop at fast chargers when traveling out of state, and the Tesla supercharger network is extremely reliable. This is just one charger company, Imagine some stupid boomer finding a broken down gas station and the comments declaring that gas cars will never work.

[@HubstepCamaro]

@@eugeniaskelley5194 Everyone’s home should have a garage, and if you live in an apartment deck the city should subsidize charger installs for each space. As for SF, I’d rather bulldoze the entire dump than go back to a gas car

[@xe-wf5iv]

@@HubstepCamaro Completely ignore the real world just to make EVs fit in your imaginary world. The reality is the current power grid can't handle everyone driving electric cars. Even with that issue addressed many people don't have a driveway and those that do would have to complete a very expensive upgrade to their current circuit breaker to handle charging multiple cars. We might get there some day, but this video is just more evidence of one of the many issues that need to be solved. If a gas station goes offline from weather you can generally find another within miles. As this video shows not even that would save you with electric, as none of the chargers could handle the cold weather.

[@HubstepCamaro]

@@xe-wf5iv Bullshit, EVs charge at night when demand is lowest. The grid today can handle it just fine, and it will take decades to convert the fleet to EV so the grid has a long time to upgrade. If your house can run an air conditioner it can charge an EV, you people are just blind haters and absolutely clueless when it comes to technology. Every home with a dryer plug is already rated for 240v and can handle it just fine.

[@xfirehurican]

Excellent vid! Gonna stick with my '02 4Runner SR5 4wd (purchased new 11/01) for a few more years. Incidentally, when I lived/worked in Kyiv (2003-2007), it started right up on -50°F (wind chill) mornings during the Jan '06 super freeze. By the look of it, EV's and charging station 'cold weather' tech, at least for Eastern European environs, remains a relative pipe dream.

[@joecherra9392]

Until Russia shuts off its pipelines. The sun rises and falls predictably and we take advantage of less than 1% of the photons sent our way. It is the photons that supply both the solar and wind power that we are utilizing and there's more where that comes from

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy lexus hybride

[@michaelharrington8543]

I had the same issue trying to charge during those cold days in Colorado. I thought it was my car preventing the charge because the battery was too cold. Didn't think it would be the charging station that was the issue.

[@Amer1can1nfidel]

what do you do when you can't charge? sounds rough lol

[@pfunk768]

At Fully Charged Live EA showed a slide show that included their "test facility" that appeared to be a basic indoor facility. All I could say was "there's your problem"

[@joemcdonough7509]

At the very least, they should have a mobile test unit and bring the charger to the worst extremes of weather (Heat, cold, rain, snow, dust, etc).

[@GamersBay]

I have a Chevy Bolt, and the power drains like crazy in these sub zero temperatures. As for the charging station issues, this is why its a bad idea to buy an electric car if you don't own a home. I have a garage and my own charging station, otherwise I would see no logic in owning an electric car. Otherwise you're sitting at a charge station for eons waiting for your car to charge, or worse, getting to a charge station and realizing they aren't working.

[@bill_heywood]

This consumer advice only applies in America, Europe runs on CCS including very cold countries like Norway. We've all seen Bjørn Nyland taking multiple different cars to the Arctic circle and never have a problem with cold weather charging

[@Lynyrd_Evnyrd]

I’ll also say, if the delta units are shown to be much better, EV-Go might clean EA’s clock with their Flying-J/Pilot/GM Ultium build out. That network is projected to have coverage that rivals EA but it’s in better locations and perhaps with better hardware. They also work better with Teslas thanks to Autocharge and perhaps with future NACS cables (EV-Go clearly is interested in that).

[@RedBud315]

I really had to chuckle when he said "dispenser". The Rivian is definitely one of the cooler looking EV's out there. I may never own an EV in my lifetime since I'm not really in the market for another vehicle at my age but, definitely not against them. I do own a '69 GTO so it would be a nice extreme counterpart compliment to that car.

[@tomdonovan8480]

A suggestion for the charging station manufactures is to install small heaters to heat the charging station to above freezing whenever the outside temperature is below freezing. Another suggestion for the installers is to place a roof over the chargers and parking spots (the roof could have solar panels to offset electric costs) to keep vehicle owners from having to be in the weather outside the vehicle as they charge similar to gas stqtion pump coverings. Now, if they really wanted to improve the charging experience (although a more expensive approach) is that anywhere there is severe extreme temperatures to enclose the charger and parking area in a closed building similar to a garage where the temps in the area are kept at a minimum, maybe just above freezing. But that would probably cost more.

[@callistoscali4344]

Remember, Tesla can do it without any of that. So, there is something about Tesla's design that makes it effective without having to bear the extra cost for all of that. No LCD screen, small footprint, enclosed plug storage, short cables, etc are just some of the design modifications that avoid all those problems.

[@joetripp123]

There was an Electrek article yesterday that said Tesla will start showing 3rd party charging stations in the car's navigation. Luckily they don't rely solely on the uptime reported by the charger owners like EA. I think something like being used at least once in the last week + 90% success charging should be a included for 'uptime' metric on all chargers. The metrics to be included in Tesla cars are: *Have at least one compatible charging connector. *Be frequently used by Tesla drivers at least once every four days. *Have an average charge success rate of 90% or higher. The stations will be removed from the navigation system automatically if one of the two criteria is met within 14 days: *No charge sessions detected. *Average charge success rate falls below 70%.

[@kruemelfelix]

Yeah this works really well in Europe, nearly every charger now is inside the Tesla navigation, wohooo! Finally no need to navigate to superchargers just for preconditioning.

[@randominternet5586]

Yeah, EA I think must get paid to show "online" - because it's comical. Things totally and obviously broken showing as "100% working" when they've not had a successful charge in a week! Too many videos on this to count. If you've had 5 cars unable to charge and no successful charges then the thing is not online.

[@brianholland77]

These charging stations across the US are not a place I would want my family stopping at anytime after dark. America will reject electric cars because of the issues your having in this video. Always enjoy your content 👍

[@Gotz_the_iron_hand]

At some point unless the tech changes, they're going to run out of materials to make evs anyway. Some materials are severely limited in availability and non-recyclable. That whole no fossil fuels by 2030 (or was it 2035?) is a joke. That's not even considering that the production of evs require fossil fuels, and that the electricity itself is partially produced using them. They're cool as a hobby or for enthusiasts and have some limited applications, but yeah, a viable replacement, they are not.

[@Amer1can1nfidel]

Yes. they will be rejected and many have lost more $$ to musk.

[@funnyfarm5555]

My wife and I have already rejected the Idea of an electric vehicle. Our daughter works at SoCal Gas, natural gas. Their biggest customer is the electrical generation plants. So don't anyone tell me electricity is emission free. Let's go back 20 years and build a hydroelectric dam and generator. There are all the construction equipment burning fuel, all the construction employees burning fuel to get to work, cranes or helicopters putting up transmission lines Etc. We live in the country on a farm and feel the electric vehicle/equipment just won't work on a farm. They are finding that wind generation is now creating a certain pollution strain on the environment as some of the blades are only lasting 10 years and then more crane work and they have to take them somewhere to dispose of them.

[@catbert7]

They should reject what's going on in this video. It's unacceptable. Teslas, on the other hand, have none of these issues and are a joy to own.

[@catbert7]

@@Gotz_the_iron_hand I mean, I guess that's a true statement. Technically Earth will eventually run out of all materials, unless humanity is first disposed of. What you fail to mention is that the materials used to make EV batteries - the only major difference in material needs from a gas car - are extremely abundant. Cobalt is in short supply, but Tesla has essentially eliminated that from their batteries. Mining of lithium and friends will need to increase, but extraction is the only limitation right now, not availability of the materials in the Earth. There will be battery materials for eons past the point oil would have run dry. And over 90% of Tesla battery packs are recycled. Many recycling businesses are currently developing around this market. Their high recyclability will mean that, after an initial investment of materials, very little more will need to be mined, unlike fossil fuels. As for emissions, EVs are more efficient even when the electricity powering them comes from fossil fuels, because the motors don't waste almost all the fuel on waste heat, as ICVs do. And electricity is increasingly becoming cleaner as well. My state, WA, is almost entirely hydro. EVs are not a hobby and are not limited application. They are a straight-up superior product. They out-perform ICVs on maintenance, fuel cost, safety, tech, performance, etc. The only sore spots are upfront cost, range, and charging network. The first two are temporary issues, resulting from the infancy of the tech and industry, that will quickly be dealt with. The last is a corporate structure issue of bad incentives. Tesla has overcome this and has an excellent charging network. Others have not.

[@rolandtb3]

Lots of lessons learned. In extreme cold: some chargers do not connect, others the charging rate initially drops by approximately half, when the vehicle batttery monitoring sytem senses the battery is warming up, the charge rate incrementally increases. Biggest issue is working charging availability and capability. In extreme cold weather route planning: Ensure battery system conditioned prior to leaving on full charge. Estimate for shorter distance charging intervals with more frequent stops. Have multiple backup charging options whenever fast charging or other charging units are not working or available. Budget longer for charging interval times. Or charging up to a certain level with a safety factor, rather than full charge to decrease downtime. Looking for convenient rest stops close to charging units. Safety when charging in the wee hours or in isolated locations.

[@Solo-vm8pd]

My favorite part of EV’s is that it helps with CO2 pollution one car at a time while plugging in to clean energy that is generated by the power company which burns coal & gas to create the clean energy going into the car. It give me the “it’s not my fault I’m doing my part” feeling while sitting at the charging station for 2 hours & watching hundreds of cars fill up & leave every 5 minutes

[@lisaazzano1811]

Love your explanation 👌. So so true. People need to look up the entire EV process. It doesn't save anything on coal and gas production. It's actually far worse. Severely expensive to own is another issue. They need to look up how lithium batteries are produced

[@tomdonovan8480]

Everything has a price, it is just how much polution is generated to produce the solution. Even though thare those who point out that solar and wind are greener they are far less polution generating. it does produce some polution to produce and transport these items but they produce far less polution over the long haul.

[@joanhenson4567]

Don't forget all the fossil fuels it takes to make batteries and the slave labor to mine lithium. Or the fossil fuels it takes to make wind mills or having no way to recycle those monstrous bird killer blades

[@SkySports1]

👍👍👍

[@vickimeyers2672]

@@tomdonovan8480 do some research on the pollution created by the mining of lithium needed to produce the EV batteries.

[@mdubz101]

All part of the plan. Side note: the complexity of that user interface seems like a nightmare on that rivian.. tap tap tap tap. Just to adjust the heat settings and lights 😮 yikes!

[@rehabmax]

Your dedication to all weather EV use is much appreciated . Snowstorms and bitter cold illustrates the challenges of using an EV in harsh environments..

[@taminatorv]

Thanks for testing all of these DCFCs out. As a two CCS car household, I'm really bummed about EA's reliability. Hopefully, EVGo is much better when they roll out through Pilot and Flying J.

[@matthewcortes3786]

This is what a lot of us wonder about where we live (winnipeg Canada). In the winter it often gets down to -30 and usually get a few weeks here and there where it's in the -40s.

[@lalutte65]

This”technology” has a long, long, long way to go before I would trust my wife and children with it-you could freeze to death just trying to find a charging station that worked and these location are ripe for a variety of criminal activities

[@callistoscali4344]

The charging station is called "at home". Being at home should be safe.

[@doofymod7816]

@@callistoscali4344 you have totally missed the point of this video lol, he showing the bad inferstructure away from home on the road....

[@scottcarr3264]

The Criminal activities have already occurred in England where Criminals have cut off the power Cables to get the copper, and it is only going to get worse.

[@catbert7]

It's not the technology that's the problem, it's the companies. Tesla chargers are fantastic.

[@bkucinschi]

It is OK, you can trust it with the lives of other people's wife and children. For your wife and children use a traditional, well-proven gas-powered truck.

[@tedlawrence1348]

Lots of work needed on the charging infrastructure. Excellent real world reporting! Thanks!

[@RandoCommandoTheThird]

Thank you for your service Kyle! Doing the needful to show real world fast dc charge experiences. Gaps to be fixed!

[@garywright4233]

One very cool truck and it looks great in white. Really enjoying our id.3 here in the uk. But you can keep the extreme cold weather to yourself. Regards.

[@terrylaven]

Kyle, Thank you for staying out all night in the bitter cold and making this video on the current state of cold weather charging. Disappointing news for sure, but it is important information to know. It has me reconsidering a BEV purchase vs a plug-in hybrid.

[@JosephHerzog]

There's definitely a guy at Electrify America who throws darts at a picture of Kyle's face. But keep up the good work Kyle! That means you're saying what needs to be said.

[@geekatheart9500]

Its always interesting watching videos like these. It just shows that the EVs aren't there yet to take over the world or being mandated. In Saskatchewan this last week was approaching -40 they better have there bugs worked out for that weather. I did a 535km drive in that weather with my 2.4l dodge journey and my mileage didnt drop because of cold weather and only $87 gas bill and only 5 minutes to fill the tank. I'll take that any time of day and weather. But very informative video keep them coming stay safe.

[@therealmarcocruz]

Yeah..... I'm sticking to gas..... It freezes where I'm at. Being stranded in the middle of a parking lot is not my thing!

[@Joe-rd4je]

Hey Kyle!!! Thank you for reporting on the issues and not sugar coating what’s going on. Someone has to speak up. The family and I took a cross country road trip in an E-Tron this past summer along I-40 from California to Virginia and the network was mostly reliable. However we have another trip planned for middle of January along the same route and this has me a little concerned. I hadn’t even thought about cold weather charging reliability until today. Lol. Keep up the good work! Thanks again!